FM: Everyone's voice should be heard

Shiptar? great, back to the use of derogatry terms!

no matter how much you protest that Serbs have no real voice in Kosova winston, it purely and simply isnt true. they have veto power, VETO power, which is very undemocratic for obvious demographic reasons, but that is ONE example of the rights they enjoy, rights which Albanians NEVER had at ANY point in Serbia.

thing is winston, no matter how much your politicians stall or your priests invoke jesus in their rhetoric of 'Kosovo', Serbia and Serbs themselves have to choose whether they want democracy or Kosova, because you see, its very obvious that they can't have both. Like it or not, Kosova comes with 2 million Albanians. that is no small number. you will not get the territory without the people, so you'll need to make them absolutely and totally EQUAL citizens and equal in EVERYTHING. you could have an Albanian running for the Presidency of your country and gain a not insignigicant number of seats in say your parliament. are you willing to accept that winston? are you willing to have a people, that according to you, faked deaths, massacres and even the expulsion, block and indeed pass legislation in your country? this is why winston, the EU candidancy isn't at the forefront of this. what is really at stake, is whether you want democracy for your people, or tyranny for another

Of course, there are political, constitutional and international legal limitations, from (UNSC) Resolution 1244 on, which are an element of it all," Jeremić stated.

Yes of course....thanks for "enlighting" us especially about Serbian constitution....

"Serbs taking part in Hashim Thaci's government have no more credibility than etnic Albanians who were part of Slobodan Milošević's government."

So how many people in Serbia's government (today) were employed and held positions during Milosevics government? So today none of those folks have credibility.

Or is he stating that the current government (Tadic) should disband his relationship with Milosevic's current party members that have high positions in Tadic's government coalition.

It's sad how this guy can bash his own people to win a vote or two. Shame on him for being such a vial human being. He talks that people should have a right to voice their opinions but when its one of his countrymen then they do not have that right.

A lot of people in the government of Serbia held positions during the Milosevic years. I don't know the statistic but I'd say an overwhelming majority did.

When are people in the Balkans going to stop bashing others when they do not agree with you. Democracy gives you the right of choice and the right to do as you please as long as it does not infringe on another's rights. Shame on you FM of Serbia for you truly have shown your truly colors. You have more communist ideals then democratic ones. There is a reason why people rose up against communism so they could express themselves without govt. prejudice or reprisals.

People don't hate each other as much as you'd like to portray to the world that they do in Kosovo. Before Milo people got along very well and you are no different the Milosevic himself. Someone should sack this guy for putting down Serbs for politcal reasons.

in an Albanian controlled government, ethnic opposition voices have no power
(winston, 22 February 2012 19:21)

Except for a deputy PM, reserved seats in parliament etc. you mean? But please ignore all these bothering facts and keep on playing with your voodoo dolls...

"Serbs taking part in Hashim Thaci's government have no more credibility than etnic Albanians who were part of Slobodan Milošević's government." Interesting Vuk or a Serbia of yesterdays and of today http://english.blic.rs/Economy/8032/Croatian-companies-shall-sue-Serbia-if-it-sells-their-property not much has changed only the Serb subterfuge of propaganda no credibility Serbs or a evil Greater Serbia only the killing has subsided . You Serbs try to hang on to at all costs even knowing what horrendous evils it is based of yours but trying to deny it and lying to your self's. Done yore self's in royally Serbs no one takes you seriously any more until you start admitting it and finding a just solution not living in more BS of yours http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2011&mm=04&dd=27&nav_id=74019 . The way you see your self's full of delusions and the world also your neighbours are to opposite polls. Reality will be brutal for Serbs Serbia when you come to the end of your delusional self's and hit the wall of reality at full speed.

"Pristina MUST learn that it is NOT an independent country, but a territory that is limited by UNSC Resolution 1244." - Winston

Belgrade MUST learn that is NOT an independent country, but a territory that is limited by UNSC Resolution 1244.

Just because you are a UN member that does not make you a sovereign country. You depend on UN for your claims to territorial integrity, you depend on EU & IMF for donor money, your currency has halved in PPP (since last decade), you are depending on EU members to welcome you into the union, and lastly your economic outlook is dismal at best.

Don't get me started about depending on Russia for your dirty work and depending on UN members not to take a stand on Kosovo's independence.

You see winston, Kosovo's future is much more positive than Serbias'. Kosovo is not limited by UN1244 because our DOI and Constitution are in law with it; I'd recommend a good read of ICJ's Ruling (2010).


Sincerely,

I think the article below sums up Jeremic and his intentions pretty well! Especially when Kosovo is concerned! Saving face!
http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/blog/the-face-saving-of-mr-jeremic

because you're a defamatory and inciting hatred, you're among the idiots of the Balkan states

Which Albanians were part of Milosevic's government?

"Serbia is a sovereign country which has undisputed part of territory and disputed part of territory.
(aaayyy"

Keep lying about your neighbors that do not recognize your ultra delusions, very Christian like ;)

Kosovo is less disputed from her neighbors than Serbia, that is a fact.

Hungary Croatia Bulgaria Macedonia Montenegro and Kosovo do not agree with you at all.

As a Serb I guess you are the only country that dosnt agree with Kosovo...

5 to 1 and keep on losing, dude. Time to get out of your lowly educated cave of dreams dude.

I believe the proper name is 'Shqiptar'. 'Shiptar' is derogotory.
Since many Serbs have been using that term out of pleasure, and not ignorance there will be no love lost if you continue to use it.

Peggy et al. now you know!
If you need help with proper pronunciation I'm sure you can get plenty of help here.

Koko, stop getting your panties in a bunch. Vuk said that Serb representatives in Pristina;s government today, have as much voice as a Shiptar in Milosevic's government, that's it. And, BTW, he is right. Your endless posting and carrying on is worthless - in an Albanian controlled government, ethnic opposition voices have no power, as would an Albanian voice in Belgrade's parliament. Kind of obvious, no? But if you find this story to take a shot at Serbs and Jeremic, go ahead, but no one will pay attention to what you say. It is silly.

Well done Vuk!!! You see Vuk is coming to the common sense after all. That is...except for the last sentence. The last sentence/statement is not correct because the history never repeats twice exactly the same.

Nikolle, you guys call yourselves Shiptars, why is that derogatory if I say it? All of the former yugoslavia referred to Kosovo Albanians as Shiptars, it was your name for yourselves. Let's get off the PC bandwagon. Let's face it, I don't like Albanians, and you don't like Serbs but, we are here on this site to exchange some views, that's all. We will not solve anything, as powers greater than us will. But hell, I am not going to be some American PC correct pussy, and watch every word that I use. I am sure you have used quite some choice words too, when referring to Serbs. Be honest.

Belgrade MUST learn that is NOT an independent country, but a territory that is limited by UNSC Resolution 1244.

Just because you are a UN member that does not make you a sovereign country.
(KOSO)

Serbia is a sovereign country which has undisputed part of territory and disputed part of territory, while "Kosovo" is just disputed territory.

"Serbs taking part in Hashim Thaci's government have no more credibility than etnic Albanians who were part of Slobodan Milošević's government." - Bravo, Vuk, I couldn't be more concise, and sarcastic, than you were with this statement. Having a couple of paid Serbs in Pristina's make-believe government is like having a few Palestinians in Israel's Knesset - just for show. Pristina MUST learn that it is NOT an independent country, but a territory that is limited by UNSC Resolution 1244. Until this UN resolution is voided, Pristina can never be presented as a republic, because it is not. Why is this so hard to accept and understand. I understand the Albanians' zeal for independence, and one day you may well be, but today you are not. - no matter what Thaci, the US, or the talking heads from the EU say. Let's get past this representation BS, and move on to something more important, like improving the lives of all the citizens of KiM, not just the ruling clan members running the temporary government in Pristina.

Shiptar? great, back to the use of derogatry terms!
=======================

Willing to be corrected. What is your term then? I have even heard your Mr Belushi use the term when speaking in Albanian. I don't speak Albanian but I did recognise this word.
So do tell us how do you pronounce Shiptar?

"Serbs taking part in Hashim Thaci's government have no more credibility than etnic Albanians who were part of Slobodan Milošević's government." - Bravo, Vuk, I couldn't be more concise, and sarcastic, than you were with this statement. Having a couple of paid Serbs in Pristina's make-believe government is like having a few Palestinians in Israel's Knesset - just for show. Pristina MUST learn that it is NOT an independent country, but a territory that is limited by UNSC Resolution 1244. Until this UN resolution is voided, Pristina can never be presented as a republic, because it is not. Why is this so hard to accept and understand. I understand the Albanians' zeal for independence, and one day you may well be, but today you are not. - no matter what Thaci, the US, or the talking heads from the EU say. Let's get past this representation BS, and move on to something more important, like improving the lives of all the citizens of KiM, not just the ruling clan members running the temporary government in Pristina.

Koko, stop getting your panties in a bunch. Vuk said that Serb representatives in Pristina;s government today, have as much voice as a Shiptar in Milosevic's government, that's it. And, BTW, he is right. Your endless posting and carrying on is worthless - in an Albanian controlled government, ethnic opposition voices have no power, as would an Albanian voice in Belgrade's parliament. Kind of obvious, no? But if you find this story to take a shot at Serbs and Jeremic, go ahead, but no one will pay attention to what you say. It is silly.

Nikolle, you guys call yourselves Shiptars, why is that derogatory if I say it? All of the former yugoslavia referred to Kosovo Albanians as Shiptars, it was your name for yourselves. Let's get off the PC bandwagon. Let's face it, I don't like Albanians, and you don't like Serbs but, we are here on this site to exchange some views, that's all. We will not solve anything, as powers greater than us will. But hell, I am not going to be some American PC correct pussy, and watch every word that I use. I am sure you have used quite some choice words too, when referring to Serbs. Be honest.

Shiptar? great, back to the use of derogatry terms!
=======================

Willing to be corrected. What is your term then? I have even heard your Mr Belushi use the term when speaking in Albanian. I don't speak Albanian but I did recognise this word.
So do tell us how do you pronounce Shiptar?

"Pristina MUST learn that it is NOT an independent country, but a territory that is limited by UNSC Resolution 1244." - Winston

Belgrade MUST learn that is NOT an independent country, but a territory that is limited by UNSC Resolution 1244.

Just because you are a UN member that does not make you a sovereign country. You depend on UN for your claims to territorial integrity, you depend on EU & IMF for donor money, your currency has halved in PPP (since last decade), you are depending on EU members to welcome you into the union, and lastly your economic outlook is dismal at best.

Don't get me started about depending on Russia for your dirty work and depending on UN members not to take a stand on Kosovo's independence.

You see winston, Kosovo's future is much more positive than Serbias'. Kosovo is not limited by UN1244 because our DOI and Constitution are in law with it; I'd recommend a good read of ICJ's Ruling (2010).


Sincerely,

because you're a defamatory and inciting hatred, you're among the idiots of the Balkan states

Belgrade MUST learn that is NOT an independent country, but a territory that is limited by UNSC Resolution 1244.

Just because you are a UN member that does not make you a sovereign country.
(KOSO)

Serbia is a sovereign country which has undisputed part of territory and disputed part of territory, while "Kosovo" is just disputed territory.

"Serbs taking part in Hashim Thaci's government have no more credibility than etnic Albanians who were part of Slobodan Milošević's government."

So how many people in Serbia's government (today) were employed and held positions during Milosevics government? So today none of those folks have credibility.

Or is he stating that the current government (Tadic) should disband his relationship with Milosevic's current party members that have high positions in Tadic's government coalition.

It's sad how this guy can bash his own people to win a vote or two. Shame on him for being such a vial human being. He talks that people should have a right to voice their opinions but when its one of his countrymen then they do not have that right.

A lot of people in the government of Serbia held positions during the Milosevic years. I don't know the statistic but I'd say an overwhelming majority did.

When are people in the Balkans going to stop bashing others when they do not agree with you. Democracy gives you the right of choice and the right to do as you please as long as it does not infringe on another's rights. Shame on you FM of Serbia for you truly have shown your truly colors. You have more communist ideals then democratic ones. There is a reason why people rose up against communism so they could express themselves without govt. prejudice or reprisals.

People don't hate each other as much as you'd like to portray to the world that they do in Kosovo. Before Milo people got along very well and you are no different the Milosevic himself. Someone should sack this guy for putting down Serbs for politcal reasons.

Of course, there are political, constitutional and international legal limitations, from (UNSC) Resolution 1244 on, which are an element of it all," Jeremić stated.

Yes of course....thanks for "enlighting" us especially about Serbian constitution....

"Serbs taking part in Hashim Thaci's government have no more credibility than etnic Albanians who were part of Slobodan Milošević's government." Interesting Vuk or a Serbia of yesterdays and of today http://english.blic.rs/Economy/8032/Croatian-companies-shall-sue-Serbia-if-it-sells-their-property not much has changed only the Serb subterfuge of propaganda no credibility Serbs or a evil Greater Serbia only the killing has subsided . You Serbs try to hang on to at all costs even knowing what horrendous evils it is based of yours but trying to deny it and lying to your self's. Done yore self's in royally Serbs no one takes you seriously any more until you start admitting it and finding a just solution not living in more BS of yours http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2011&mm=04&dd=27&nav_id=74019 . The way you see your self's full of delusions and the world also your neighbours are to opposite polls. Reality will be brutal for Serbs Serbia when you come to the end of your delusional self's and hit the wall of reality at full speed.

in an Albanian controlled government, ethnic opposition voices have no power
(winston, 22 February 2012 19:21)

Except for a deputy PM, reserved seats in parliament etc. you mean? But please ignore all these bothering facts and keep on playing with your voodoo dolls...

Well done Vuk!!! You see Vuk is coming to the common sense after all. That is...except for the last sentence. The last sentence/statement is not correct because the history never repeats twice exactly the same.

"Serbia is a sovereign country which has undisputed part of territory and disputed part of territory.
(aaayyy"

Keep lying about your neighbors that do not recognize your ultra delusions, very Christian like ;)

Kosovo is less disputed from her neighbors than Serbia, that is a fact.

Hungary Croatia Bulgaria Macedonia Montenegro and Kosovo do not agree with you at all.

As a Serb I guess you are the only country that dosnt agree with Kosovo...

5 to 1 and keep on losing, dude. Time to get out of your lowly educated cave of dreams dude.

I think the article below sums up Jeremic and his intentions pretty well! Especially when Kosovo is concerned! Saving face!
http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/blog/the-face-saving-of-mr-jeremic

Shiptar? great, back to the use of derogatry terms!

no matter how much you protest that Serbs have no real voice in Kosova winston, it purely and simply isnt true. they have veto power, VETO power, which is very undemocratic for obvious demographic reasons, but that is ONE example of the rights they enjoy, rights which Albanians NEVER had at ANY point in Serbia.

thing is winston, no matter how much your politicians stall or your priests invoke jesus in their rhetoric of 'Kosovo', Serbia and Serbs themselves have to choose whether they want democracy or Kosova, because you see, its very obvious that they can't have both. Like it or not, Kosova comes with 2 million Albanians. that is no small number. you will not get the territory without the people, so you'll need to make them absolutely and totally EQUAL citizens and equal in EVERYTHING. you could have an Albanian running for the Presidency of your country and gain a not insignigicant number of seats in say your parliament. are you willing to accept that winston? are you willing to have a people, that according to you, faked deaths, massacres and even the expulsion, block and indeed pass legislation in your country? this is why winston, the EU candidancy isn't at the forefront of this. what is really at stake, is whether you want democracy for your people, or tyranny for another

Which Albanians were part of Milosevic's government?

I believe the proper name is 'Shqiptar'. 'Shiptar' is derogotory.
Since many Serbs have been using that term out of pleasure, and not ignorance there will be no love lost if you continue to use it.

Peggy et al. now you know!
If you need help with proper pronunciation I'm sure you can get plenty of help here.