Belgrade-Priština talks postponed for Wednesday

The talks are for show in any case. Serbs and Albanians have opposing positions - Serbia's are legal, and the Albanians are demanding that they be represented as a state, which they are not (UNSC Resolution 1244). The US/EU freak show of attempted nation-building continues.

Very smart Pristina, p*ssing off your sponsors in the US and EU. Will you start fighting each other now?

what is that man talking about, only Belrade has maximum demands, and is completly unflexible. It would be a huge mistake if Kosovo gives in to the Serb demands. Serbia has to give up his nationalistc behaviour before it can ever be accepted into the EU.
(Bill, 21 February 2012, 11:11)

As a matter of fact Bill, it is the opposite. I think Belgrade has been very flexible in talks while Pristina is being completely inflexible. I say this as an ethnic Albanian. We all want a genuine peace. However for that to happen, a compromise must be reached that is acceptable to all sides. So far Belgrade is the one that has been taking the initiative. Bravo to Stefanovic. I think he has been excellent in representing Serbian interests in facing down the Serb nationalists in Mitrovica as well as trying to dealing with Pristina which I imagine can be a frustrating experience. I am optimistic and the to and fro-ing is all for domestic consumption and a deal will be made. Slowly but surely :)

everybody sees that this not only the mere reason and hollow attempt of Serbia - berk . . . who is everybody, berk? I don't see it that way, and certainly all of Serbia and its allies do not see it that way. Why are you talking for others? Albanians are the ones that are trying to make a country out of an administerd territory. Kosovo is administered by UNSC Resolution 1244 - Kosovo is not an independent country. Who is being stubborn and hardheaded, then?

"The more these talks go on the more Serbia drops their pants and gives"..... USA United States of Albania. If I was Albanian, I would be ashamed of you as one of my own. Your hatred has so marred your perspective, that all you want to do is insult, and not discuss real options to a difficult situation. A situation that involves human well-being. It is precisely because of nationalist hate-mongers like you, that the Balkans are in the state that they are. You are riding this wave of Western support now like you are king of the parade, but you must realize that nothing lasts forever. Instead of working to help you own people, and build a future that will benefit all in the Balkans, you concentrate on hate and nasty statements that mean zero. Shame on soul less people like you.

to Mirel - why should Serbia recognize the independence of minority group, who after all pursues nazi like policy towards non Alanians. Do not tell me about those cosmetic law provisons "ensuring" this and that. I have been to KiM and know what calibre nazionalists Kosovo Albanians are.
Secondly, I have mentioned it earlier, but got no answer from the Albanian camp. Is that blonde old woman in the photo Madleine Albright `s daughter, why else was she so keen in supporting Islamist statelet in the heart of Europe? Thank you in advance for your response!

Another waste of time and money. There would be plenty of rooms for ambiguosity, interpretations and accusations....

Hahahah time for serbia to run faster.Ms Edita is not in hurry Talks postponed status postponed for Serbia mars 2013
Rum fat boy run TIK TAK TIK TAK

what is that man talking about, only Belrade has maximum demands, and is completly unflexible. It would be a huge mistake if Kosovo gives in to the Serb demands. Serbia has to give up his nationalistc behaviour before it can ever be accepted into the EU.

Those talks are useless and everybody can see that it only aims to provide Serbia the "argument" that is trying to solve the Kosovo conflict. However, everybody sees that this not only the mere reason and hollow attempt of Serbia, but it also exposes that it does not work at all. It is a stage for Belgrade's politicians and must be shut down indefinitly, until Serbia comes up with real and doable offers. Germany doesn't anyway buy it, so can strike your EU ambitions, which are currently the only drive for Serbia to have that talks, out for now.

More going round in circles and getting nowhere fast.

They all need a kick up the pants, bloody politicians are all puddled.

No wonder the world is in such a mess.

Papajohn, there is no need to be either Pro or Con the independence of Kosovo to see that Serbia primarily aims for EU candidacy and not more, when it comes to those talks. Have you forgotton that Serbia does not recognize those talks as "official", but rather a platform where opinions can be exchanged with no legal binding? Real talks don't have that strings and this is only one of the reasons to call these talks BS.

Serbia is only after EU candidacy and the funds which are attached to it with no real intention to solve its Kosovo problem. For 22 countries including Kosovo, it has been solved long time ago and this is the dead end which ultimatively you have to deal with. Serbian politicians tried to perpetuate a different picture and now faced with reality they cry rivers.

There have been three periods of representation:


Phase 1) Kosovo's officials were unable to represent the country and UNMIK represented us. UNMIK also signed agreements on our behalf (i.e. CEFTA)

Phase 2) Kosovo's officials were able to go to some regional meetings but an UNMIK representative chaperoned the Kosovan minister and even spoke in these meetings.

Phase 3) (NOW) Kosovo's officials able to take part in ALL regional meetings (without UNMIK) and have their state symbols displayed BUT the a footnote included underneath name.


With that in mind it is absurd to think Kosovo's participation will be asymmetrical when it will have a voice just like other sovereign country in meetings and summits. As far as the footnote you can put FYROK for all I care.


Sincerely,

Serbia is only after EU candidacy and the funds which are attached to it with no real intention to solve its Kosovo problem. - Berk
Serbia does not have a Kosovo problem, Berk, the separatist Albanians in Pristina and the nation-building USA/EU do. Serbia is content with the way things are - a frozen conflict where the Pristina thugs stay out of N. KiM, and the Albanian clan mafia in Pristina can support itself. As for EU candidacy, yes, BG is trying its hardest to get into this club, much to mine, and many other Serb's chagrin. But I'm not quite sure what funds you are talking about? Are you implying that the EU will give Serbia money when they get candidate status? You can't be serious, can you?

Sorry, Koso, but as long as UNSC Resolution 1244 is in effect, Pristina will always be represented by UNMIK in regional meetings. Kosovo is not an independent country as far as Serbia, the UNSC and the UNGA are concerned. Why do you think Kosovo is independent, because separatist Albanians, the USA, and most of the EU says so? Well, most of the world says you are not, including giants like China, India, Russia, Brazil, even America's biggest ally, Israel. So who are we to believe - your self-serving, nation-building supporters, or a legally binding resolution from the UN, and the majority of the free world? Your Edita does carry a lot of weight, but not that much diplomatically.

what is that man talking about, only Belrade has maximum demands, and is completly unflexible. It would be a huge mistake if Kosovo gives in to the Serb demands. Serbia has to give up his nationalistc behaviour before it can ever be accepted into the EU.
(Bill, 21 February 2012, 11:11)

Listen Bill, I know what I am talking about. I live in and work in Serbia. I read the papers, I listen to the radio, I watch the TV, I surf the internet, I talk to my friends. I know exactly what is going on in Serbia unlike you. Belgrade is acting in her interests and is handling the situation very well (in hard times I admit). I will be voting for the DS come elections. How is that being 'nationalistic behaviour' as you put it? Every nation has its interests and Serbia is no exception. If anything Serbia is being very flexible and forward in these negotiations.

These talks are good for the purpose of allowing Serbia an out. Its within these talks that they can implicitly recognize Kosova's independence not thru a formal "we recognize you" statement, but by ACTIONS such as agreements for the border, trade, license plates and basically everything else that makes a functioning state. Do YOU really know whats being discussed at these meetings? do YOU really know what Serbia has agreed to or not? Chances are NO you do not know. And thats how Serbia wants it to be. They would prefer the citizens of Serbia NOT to know whats being discussed and agreed to. The more these talks go on the more Serbia drops their pants and gives.....

@ Bekim!
What kind of fexibility is Serbian gonverment showing?
They dont move away from UN1244,they are doing everything in their power to stop Kosova's independence.I dont know what the situation is among serbs because you know better since you are living there,but I don't think that Serbia is being flexibile at all.Tell me what is Serbian giving to albanians as compromise, because I dont see anything?Vuk Jeremic is doing everything in his power to stop Kosova's recognisions,Tadic comes in Kosova and starts talking like he is the president of Kosova,Nikolic and Kushtunica are going to anull all the agreements that Tadic has achived.
You man are talking in general,but you dont give one example where Serbia is being more flexibile than Albanians.

Sorry, Koso, but as long as UNSC Resolution 1244 is in effect, Pristina will always be represented by UNMIK in regional meetings. Kosovo is not an independent country as far as Serbia, the UNSC and the UNGA are concerned. Why do you think Kosovo is independent, because separatist Albanians, the USA, and most of the EU says so? Well, most of the world says you are not, including giants like China, India, Russia, Brazil, even America's biggest ally, Israel. So who are we to believe - your self-serving, nation-building supporters, or a legally binding resolution from the UN, and the majority of the free world? Your Edita does carry a lot of weight, but not that much diplomatically.
(winston, 21 February 2012, 15:36)

Kosovo has been represented at regional meetings solely by ministers since 2008...why do you think Belgrade always walks out?

You say that Kosovo has not been recognized by majority of the world --- this is untrue. The majority of the world hasn't taken a stand on the E/W proxy wars. A limited amount of countries (CYPRUS, RUSSIA, ETC) have come out explicitly against Kosovo's sovereignty and DOI.

UN 1244 resolution is NON-BINDING.


Sincerely,

"but you must realize that nothing lasts forever." Papajohn

Papajohn - I agree with you. When will Serbs realize that the Serbian Golden Days are looooong gone. You guys are like the Greeks, you think because you were somebody milleniums ago that this holds true currently....this is false. Serbia is just as bankrupt both financially, morally, and socially just like their Greek lovers. People only care about what you're doing now. Accept mediocrity and move on with your lives and stop trying to drag everyone else that surrounds your country down with you. Now is the time for the Albanian Golden Age. You just wait and see....

exKfor

I can see that you are driven by some kind of Christian crusade with Islam this Islam that. Isn't it ironic though, how most Muslim nations support Serbia and the majority of states to have recognized Kosovo are Christian? when did they get their wires crossed? as for you rather dumb question, yes that is the daughter of Madame Albright, though she was adopted

Hahahah time for serbia to run faster.Ms Edita is not in hurry Talks postponed status postponed for Serbia mars 2013
Rum fat boy run TIK TAK TIK TAK

what is that man talking about, only Belrade has maximum demands, and is completly unflexible. It would be a huge mistake if Kosovo gives in to the Serb demands. Serbia has to give up his nationalistc behaviour before it can ever be accepted into the EU.

"but you must realize that nothing lasts forever." Papajohn

Papajohn - I agree with you. When will Serbs realize that the Serbian Golden Days are looooong gone. You guys are like the Greeks, you think because you were somebody milleniums ago that this holds true currently....this is false. Serbia is just as bankrupt both financially, morally, and socially just like their Greek lovers. People only care about what you're doing now. Accept mediocrity and move on with your lives and stop trying to drag everyone else that surrounds your country down with you. Now is the time for the Albanian Golden Age. You just wait and see....

Another waste of time and money. There would be plenty of rooms for ambiguosity, interpretations and accusations....

Those talks are useless and everybody can see that it only aims to provide Serbia the "argument" that is trying to solve the Kosovo conflict. However, everybody sees that this not only the mere reason and hollow attempt of Serbia, but it also exposes that it does not work at all. It is a stage for Belgrade's politicians and must be shut down indefinitly, until Serbia comes up with real and doable offers. Germany doesn't anyway buy it, so can strike your EU ambitions, which are currently the only drive for Serbia to have that talks, out for now.

Papajohn, there is no need to be either Pro or Con the independence of Kosovo to see that Serbia primarily aims for EU candidacy and not more, when it comes to those talks. Have you forgotton that Serbia does not recognize those talks as "official", but rather a platform where opinions can be exchanged with no legal binding? Real talks don't have that strings and this is only one of the reasons to call these talks BS.

Serbia is only after EU candidacy and the funds which are attached to it with no real intention to solve its Kosovo problem. For 22 countries including Kosovo, it has been solved long time ago and this is the dead end which ultimatively you have to deal with. Serbian politicians tried to perpetuate a different picture and now faced with reality they cry rivers.

There have been three periods of representation:


Phase 1) Kosovo's officials were unable to represent the country and UNMIK represented us. UNMIK also signed agreements on our behalf (i.e. CEFTA)

Phase 2) Kosovo's officials were able to go to some regional meetings but an UNMIK representative chaperoned the Kosovan minister and even spoke in these meetings.

Phase 3) (NOW) Kosovo's officials able to take part in ALL regional meetings (without UNMIK) and have their state symbols displayed BUT the a footnote included underneath name.


With that in mind it is absurd to think Kosovo's participation will be asymmetrical when it will have a voice just like other sovereign country in meetings and summits. As far as the footnote you can put FYROK for all I care.


Sincerely,

@ Bekim!
What kind of fexibility is Serbian gonverment showing?
They dont move away from UN1244,they are doing everything in their power to stop Kosova's independence.I dont know what the situation is among serbs because you know better since you are living there,but I don't think that Serbia is being flexibile at all.Tell me what is Serbian giving to albanians as compromise, because I dont see anything?Vuk Jeremic is doing everything in his power to stop Kosova's recognisions,Tadic comes in Kosova and starts talking like he is the president of Kosova,Nikolic and Kushtunica are going to anull all the agreements that Tadic has achived.
You man are talking in general,but you dont give one example where Serbia is being more flexibile than Albanians.

Sorry, Koso, but as long as UNSC Resolution 1244 is in effect, Pristina will always be represented by UNMIK in regional meetings. Kosovo is not an independent country as far as Serbia, the UNSC and the UNGA are concerned. Why do you think Kosovo is independent, because separatist Albanians, the USA, and most of the EU says so? Well, most of the world says you are not, including giants like China, India, Russia, Brazil, even America's biggest ally, Israel. So who are we to believe - your self-serving, nation-building supporters, or a legally binding resolution from the UN, and the majority of the free world? Your Edita does carry a lot of weight, but not that much diplomatically.
(winston, 21 February 2012, 15:36)

Kosovo has been represented at regional meetings solely by ministers since 2008...why do you think Belgrade always walks out?

You say that Kosovo has not been recognized by majority of the world --- this is untrue. The majority of the world hasn't taken a stand on the E/W proxy wars. A limited amount of countries (CYPRUS, RUSSIA, ETC) have come out explicitly against Kosovo's sovereignty and DOI.

UN 1244 resolution is NON-BINDING.


Sincerely,

The talks are for show in any case. Serbs and Albanians have opposing positions - Serbia's are legal, and the Albanians are demanding that they be represented as a state, which they are not (UNSC Resolution 1244). The US/EU freak show of attempted nation-building continues.

Very smart Pristina, p*ssing off your sponsors in the US and EU. Will you start fighting each other now?

what is that man talking about, only Belrade has maximum demands, and is completly unflexible. It would be a huge mistake if Kosovo gives in to the Serb demands. Serbia has to give up his nationalistc behaviour before it can ever be accepted into the EU.
(Bill, 21 February 2012, 11:11)

As a matter of fact Bill, it is the opposite. I think Belgrade has been very flexible in talks while Pristina is being completely inflexible. I say this as an ethnic Albanian. We all want a genuine peace. However for that to happen, a compromise must be reached that is acceptable to all sides. So far Belgrade is the one that has been taking the initiative. Bravo to Stefanovic. I think he has been excellent in representing Serbian interests in facing down the Serb nationalists in Mitrovica as well as trying to dealing with Pristina which I imagine can be a frustrating experience. I am optimistic and the to and fro-ing is all for domestic consumption and a deal will be made. Slowly but surely :)

More going round in circles and getting nowhere fast.

They all need a kick up the pants, bloody politicians are all puddled.

No wonder the world is in such a mess.

everybody sees that this not only the mere reason and hollow attempt of Serbia - berk . . . who is everybody, berk? I don't see it that way, and certainly all of Serbia and its allies do not see it that way. Why are you talking for others? Albanians are the ones that are trying to make a country out of an administerd territory. Kosovo is administered by UNSC Resolution 1244 - Kosovo is not an independent country. Who is being stubborn and hardheaded, then?

Serbia is only after EU candidacy and the funds which are attached to it with no real intention to solve its Kosovo problem. - Berk
Serbia does not have a Kosovo problem, Berk, the separatist Albanians in Pristina and the nation-building USA/EU do. Serbia is content with the way things are - a frozen conflict where the Pristina thugs stay out of N. KiM, and the Albanian clan mafia in Pristina can support itself. As for EU candidacy, yes, BG is trying its hardest to get into this club, much to mine, and many other Serb's chagrin. But I'm not quite sure what funds you are talking about? Are you implying that the EU will give Serbia money when they get candidate status? You can't be serious, can you?

Sorry, Koso, but as long as UNSC Resolution 1244 is in effect, Pristina will always be represented by UNMIK in regional meetings. Kosovo is not an independent country as far as Serbia, the UNSC and the UNGA are concerned. Why do you think Kosovo is independent, because separatist Albanians, the USA, and most of the EU says so? Well, most of the world says you are not, including giants like China, India, Russia, Brazil, even America's biggest ally, Israel. So who are we to believe - your self-serving, nation-building supporters, or a legally binding resolution from the UN, and the majority of the free world? Your Edita does carry a lot of weight, but not that much diplomatically.

what is that man talking about, only Belrade has maximum demands, and is completly unflexible. It would be a huge mistake if Kosovo gives in to the Serb demands. Serbia has to give up his nationalistc behaviour before it can ever be accepted into the EU.
(Bill, 21 February 2012, 11:11)

Listen Bill, I know what I am talking about. I live in and work in Serbia. I read the papers, I listen to the radio, I watch the TV, I surf the internet, I talk to my friends. I know exactly what is going on in Serbia unlike you. Belgrade is acting in her interests and is handling the situation very well (in hard times I admit). I will be voting for the DS come elections. How is that being 'nationalistic behaviour' as you put it? Every nation has its interests and Serbia is no exception. If anything Serbia is being very flexible and forward in these negotiations.

These talks are good for the purpose of allowing Serbia an out. Its within these talks that they can implicitly recognize Kosova's independence not thru a formal "we recognize you" statement, but by ACTIONS such as agreements for the border, trade, license plates and basically everything else that makes a functioning state. Do YOU really know whats being discussed at these meetings? do YOU really know what Serbia has agreed to or not? Chances are NO you do not know. And thats how Serbia wants it to be. They would prefer the citizens of Serbia NOT to know whats being discussed and agreed to. The more these talks go on the more Serbia drops their pants and gives.....

"The more these talks go on the more Serbia drops their pants and gives"..... USA United States of Albania. If I was Albanian, I would be ashamed of you as one of my own. Your hatred has so marred your perspective, that all you want to do is insult, and not discuss real options to a difficult situation. A situation that involves human well-being. It is precisely because of nationalist hate-mongers like you, that the Balkans are in the state that they are. You are riding this wave of Western support now like you are king of the parade, but you must realize that nothing lasts forever. Instead of working to help you own people, and build a future that will benefit all in the Balkans, you concentrate on hate and nasty statements that mean zero. Shame on soul less people like you.

to Mirel - why should Serbia recognize the independence of minority group, who after all pursues nazi like policy towards non Alanians. Do not tell me about those cosmetic law provisons "ensuring" this and that. I have been to KiM and know what calibre nazionalists Kosovo Albanians are.
Secondly, I have mentioned it earlier, but got no answer from the Albanian camp. Is that blonde old woman in the photo Madleine Albright `s daughter, why else was she so keen in supporting Islamist statelet in the heart of Europe? Thank you in advance for your response!

exKfor

I can see that you are driven by some kind of Christian crusade with Islam this Islam that. Isn't it ironic though, how most Muslim nations support Serbia and the majority of states to have recognized Kosovo are Christian? when did they get their wires crossed? as for you rather dumb question, yes that is the daughter of Madame Albright, though she was adopted