Sunday, 19.02.2012.
13:57
Serbian Foreign Minister Vuk Jeremić has stated that Uganda has not recognized Kosovo’s unilaterally declared independence.
Izvor: Tanjug
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Or are you saying Kosovo is part of Zimbabwe because it also doesn't say that Vojvodina or Sandzak are part of Zimbabwe as well but then it's all implied isn't it?!
(icj1, 23 February 2012 04:55)
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Why do you insist on embarrassing yourself?
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It also doesn't say that Vojvodina or Sandzak are part of Serbia as well but then it's all implied isn't it? Why does an agreement have to specify all the provinces? If an agreement is reached which Serbia is a part of then the whole of Serbia is a part of that agreement.
(Peggy, 21 February 2012 02:37)
Yes, and then what does have that to do with anything that I was stating :) Still 1244 says nowhere that Kosovo is Serbia/Yugoslavia/or the promissed land LOL
Or are you saying Kosovo is part of Zimbabwe because it also doesn't say that Vojvodina or Sandzak are part of Zimbabwe as well but then it's all implied isn't it?!
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My point was that UNSC Resolution 1244 says nowhere that “Kosovo is Serbia” or “Kosovo is Yugoslavia” and that Zoran must have been referring to the famous Serbian version of 1244.
(icj1, 20 February 2012 17:24)
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It also doesn't say that Vojvodina or Sandzak are part of Serbia as well but then it's all implied isn't it?
Why does an agreement have to specify all the provinces? If an agreement is reached which Serbia is a part of then the whole of Serbia is a part of that agreement.
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My point was that UNSC Resolution 1244 says nowhere that “Kosovo is Serbia” or “Kosovo is Yugoslavia” and that Zoran must have been referring to the famous Serbian version of 1244.
(icj1, 20 February 2012 17:24)
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It wasn't me who said that. It was CG and you were replying to him. Please try and be accurate at least once in your life. Don't you get dizzy with all the spinning that you do?
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But Kosovo knows already that, at least, 109 countries consider Kosovo a country because they said so during the WB and IMF vote. So what’s the point of the UN vote ?!
(icj1, 20 February 2012 17:46)
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LOL! You sure do have some imagination, which is very typical of Albanians. The IMF and WB are not places where countries are legitimised. Now that is done at the UN, which is where it counts and where you lack numbers. The fact is, "Kosova" will never be legitimised.
But hey, you can still go ahead and spin whatever rubbish you like and attempt to prove something that just isn't true. I'll give you one thing though, you are a very determined spinster even though what you say is complete rubbish.
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So what is your point? We all know that FR Yugoslavia means Serbia these days, right?
(Zoran, 20 February 2012 08:59)
You still did not get my point ?! Dear, nobody is disputing that FR Yugoslavia means Serbia these days... that's not the point.
The point is that you lied because the Arabic, Chinese, English, French, Russian and Spanish versions of UNSC Resolution 1244 say nowhere that “Kosovo is Yugoslavia” or “Kosovo is Serbia”.
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Put it to a vote at the UN and we'll see who really recognises "Kosova".
(Zoran, 20 February 2012 11:13)
But Kosovo knows already that, at least, 109 countries consider Kosovo a country because they said so during the WB and IMF vote. So what’s the point of the UN vote ?! But if you have doubts and want a UN vote, by all means go ahead and ask for it.
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Do you have a problem with reading comprehension? I said a UN vote not IMF or WB. Palestine got UNESCO membership with 107 UN votes. Why doesn't "Kosova" attempt to get membership? Please explain.
(Zoran, 20 February 2012 10:19)
Because the money is with the WB and IMF, mate. Is the money that matters LOL
And then, it does not make a difference, dear, as far as who considers Kosovo a country. 109 countries voted that Kosovo is a country, regardless whether the vote happens in the UN, IMF, WB, UNESCO, in the Caribbean beaches or in the Moon :).
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(Zoran, 19 February 2012 19:32)
You should go over once again to tell us where is written PM Pacolli.
It says : Former President of Kosova, and under that is addressed to; First Deputy PM of Government of Kosova.
(ardi asllani, 20 February 2012 07:54)
Go easy on Zoran… he is losing his mind and starting to hallucinate LOL
He is seeing words in 1244 that are not in there; he is seeing words in the note verbale that are not in there :)
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Icj1 - please can we put this argument about 1244 and the connection between Serbia and Yugoslavia to bed.
(Jim, 20 February 2012 06:55)
What argument ?! I don’t think there is any argument - Serbia is the successor of Yugoslavia… end of the story. Unless, of course, you diasgree.
My point was that UNSC Resolution 1244 says nowhere that “Kosovo is Serbia” or “Kosovo is Yugoslavia” and that Zoran must have been referring to the famous Serbian version of 1244.
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Amazing the conceptual gymnastics some of the regular commentators are engaging in to say "no, it isn't so", when it comes to yet another "insignificant recognition"
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You should go over once again to tell us where is written PM Pacolli.
It says : Former President of Kosova, and under that is addressed to; First Deputy PM of Government of Kosova.
(ardi asllani, 20 February 2012 07:54)
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And your point is? It says "Kosovo" and not "Republic of Kosovo". Even we admit there are temporary institutions (or interim Government) in KiM, whether legitimate or illegitimate. Why did your bribe minister announce verbal recognition on 17th Feb 2012 if you already have written recognition from 5th Dec 2011? It just doesn't add up so someone is pulling your leg.
Look on Wikipedia and you can see what constitutes a recognition for "Kosova". Just a link to some Albanian news source quoting your bribe minister. Pretty pathetic, right Ian? Lies after lies. Put it to a vote at the UN and we'll see who really recognises "Kosova". If you think you have the support, at least apply for UNESCO membership like Palestine. No vetoes allowed there.
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The fact that at the bottom the letter states that we look forward to establishing diplomatic relations tells you all anyone needs to know
Jeremic don't cry. You had lost this battle before it began bit is dated in December because that is when the decision was taken but for political reasons(jeremic begging not to go through with it before his African speech) was not released
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If it were for a vote, that has happened already, dear. 109 countries said that Kosovo is a country when they voted for Kosovo's admission to the IMF and WB.
(icj1, 19 February 2012 20:06)
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Do you have a problem with reading comprehension? I said a UN vote not IMF or WB. Palestine got UNESCO membership with 107 UN votes. Why doesn't "Kosova" attempt to get membership? Please explain.
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The funny thing is, Paccoli got the recognition note from the Ugandan Foreign Minister Sam Kutesa.
Jeremic is now claiming that Uganda didn't recognise because the Ugandan Foreign Minister's Assistant/ coffee maker Henry Oryem Okello apparently said so.
Who would you rather believe? The Ugandan FM or his assistant/ coffee maker?
Whats next in make believe land? Russia didn't recognise Abkhazia?
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Fatihkoparan and others - can you please tell me where the letter officially announces recognition? In formal terms, the letter is extremely careful not to mention recognition in explicit terms. It is merely a thank you note, giving some indications that it might recognise Kosovo in the future.
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Does not matter dear. UNSC Resolution 1244 says nowhere "Kosovo is Yugoslavia".
(icj1, 19 February 2012 20:09)
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So what is your point? We all know that FR Yugoslavia means Serbia these days, right?
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Two simple questions for my Albanian friends here. Please be brave and answer them.
1. We have seen this same letter over and over. It is dated 5th of Dec, 2011. Why did Piccoli, on the 17th Feb, 2012, say that Uganda offered verbal recognition? If that letter was a letter of recognition, why the need for the announcement on the 17th of Feb?
2. Where exactly in that letter on the 5th of Dec does it recognise the "Republic of Kosovo"? It came from the Republic of Uganda but only refers to the "Government of Kosovo" and not the "Republic of Kosovo".
It seems like Albanians are getting so desperate for independence these days that they will believe anything.
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It refers to Pacolli as "Prime Minister, Government of Kosovo" - not the "Government of the Republic of Kosovo".
And then it goes on to say "we are behind other nations that have recognised the Republic of Kosovo". They are not with, but behind nations that have recognised ....
So where exactly in that text does it recognise the "Republic of Kosovo"? The fact is, it doesn't.
(Zoran, 19 February 2012 19:32)
You should go over once again to tell us where is written PM Pacolli.
It says : Former President of Kosova, and under that is addressed to; First Deputy PM of Government of Kosova.
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Icj1 - please can we put this argument about 1244 and the connection between Serbia and Yugoslavia to bed. In the ICJ case on Kosovo's independence, only one country, the US, tried to make this point (much to the amazement of many observers who thought that there is no way it would have made such a lazy argument). In doing so, it was actually insulting the Court. In the case concerning Serbia and genocide in Bosnia, the Court had already decided that Serbia is now what was then Yugoslavia. The fact that the name had changed did not mean that it could claim that it was not responsible. It is ironic that you call yourself ICJ, and yet seem wholly unaware of this. No other country, not Britain, not France, made this point before the ICJ when they defended Kosovo's independence. If it is so powerful an argument, why didn't every state just make this point, and why didn't the Court simply agree?
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@Silva
the same old story alvaninas lie and cry nothing new here ,the bigger countries cant get paid out that easy and another thing if you dont have
brazil,russia,china,india and other massive nations then you will never see a independant province ever and to you serbians hello from brazil i am a serb supporter like all in brazil.
(silva, 19 February 2012 19:35)
@Silva
Do you actually think that we care what you and your Brazilian peeps think about Kosova? Well take a wild guess, nooooooooo……
I have many friends from your necks of the woods that sympathize with Albanians 100%, but you must have your own reasons for having a skewed mind.
You probably think that Ronaldo was better then Messi…LOL don’t you?!
As far as your desperate BRIC countries are concerned, we really do not give two craps about you. US bombed the sh.. out of Serbia while ‘R’ from the BRIC was keeping quiet, US bombed the ‘C’ (of the BRIC) embassy in Belgrade while ‘C’ kept quiet. You as a 'B' of the BRIC were never consulted for anything, and the ‘I’ would not dare and say a word as their livelihood depends on the US of A. So you do the math, that’s if you can add 2+2.
We have the rulers of the world in our side and that’s what counts, that’s why we are an independent nation and loving every second of it. You’re better off going to your beaches and enjoy all the nice looking Brazilian women, as oppose to making naïve comments like this. Actually I plan to fly down there in April myself.
Yes I did, I did say it!!!
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Shouldn't such a denial be comming from the Ugandan foreign ministry and not the Serbian?
(Danilo, 19 February 2012 14:43)
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Then by the same token should the comfirmation also be coming from Uganda and not Pristina?
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@ (Pls say it ain't so !!! ) daemons. really
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Serbian Foreign Minister Vuk Jeremic said the sky is green. Even though he's the only person who said it, to be fair, we have to include it and consider the matter disputed.' Is that where we're going?
Jeremiç tomorrow: "Republic of Albnia, USA and Gremany never recognize Kosovo". He is so fanny! :) LOL JEREMIÇ
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Newsflash for Jeremic: http://koha.net/?page=1,13,88547
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Here is the link that you can see it clearly. even clear enough for Jeremic! http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151316751270153&set=a.320390645152.341768.307617160152&type=1&theater
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Shouldn't such a denial be comming from the Ugandan foreign ministry and not the Serbian?
(Danilo, 19 February 2012 14:43)
Correctly, especially when we reflect that it comes from this slimy FM. Jeremic already proved in the past that he was lying, just as when he said Oman "rescinded" recognition. I'm only believing it when it comes from the Ugandians.
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(Ian, UK, 19 February 2012 16:01)
(Kenny, 19 February 2012 15:57)
Well done guys!
Do you remember when just last week Jeremic was saying: Serbia is respected in the world and that is thanks to his great and wise diplomacy?
And what about the: two countries will revoke the recognition?
He strikes again... LOL
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LOL! UNSCR1244 was written in 1999 and since then Yugoslavia has changed its name to Serbia. Serbia sits in the same UN seat that Yugoslavia did back then. The only difference is the name has changed.
You comment is an example of the silly type of games Albanians play.
(Zoran, 19 February 2012 17:01)
Does not matter dear. UNSC Resolution 1244 says nowhere "Kosovo is Yugoslavia".
You comment is an example of the silly type of games you play by referring to the Serbian version of 1244 LOL
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Vuk Jeremic is like Pinocchio. Every time he lies his nose grows up.
(Avni)
LOL this must be making you sick...
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2012&mm=01&dd=24&nav_id=78433
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This is the MOST childish politican I ever seen.And he wants to run for Un office.Dude, I will not hire him even for New York taxi driver.Remember when he was withdrawing ambassadors and then reinsteting...that,s was a humiliatin,when he wanted a opinion from ICJ abour Kosovo independace and he got it...again humiliation,when he is telling that this or that country dident recognize Kosovo independence and he was prouven wrong,another humilation...what next?
Oh well,he gets payed for this,so who cares...way to go Vuk.
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The truth of the matter is that the US and other states are doing backflips to stop any kind of vote at the UN regarding KiM. If we had one, the true number of recognitions would be known and it is not as high as you believe.
(Zoran, 19 February 2012 16:18)
If it were for a vote, that has happened already, dear. 109 countries said that Kosovo is a country when they voted for Kosovo's admission to the IMF and WB.
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Here is a copy of the recognition note.
[link]
(Ian, UK, 19 February 2012 16:01)
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Exactly where does this note recognise "Kosova"?
It refers to Pacolli as "Prime Minister, Government of Kosovo" - not the "Government of the Republic of Kosovo".
And then it goes on to say "we are behind other nations that have recognised the Republic of Kosovo". They are not with, but behind nations that have recognised ....
So where exactly in that text does it recognise the "Republic of Kosovo"? The fact is, it doesn't.
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Sadly, Wikipedia's list of recognitions is completely unreliable. The entry on Kosovo's recognition, while once an accurate record of the situation, is now being used by Kosovo Albanians and supporters to present a thoroughly distorted picture. Any information coming from Pristina is automatically accepted. Any information from Belgrade is systematically rejected. It is appalling. For example, Nigeria has not recognised Kosovo. It has not only denied it, but anyone with any knowledge of international affairs would now that Nigeria is fiercely opposed to unilateral acts of secession. (Look up Biafra.) and yet, every time anyone has tried to bring this up, their complaints are dismissed and their edits are reversed by a little cabal of biased editors. All this only goes to undermine the credibility of Wikipedia, which I had thought at one point was actually starting to become more trustworthy and accurate.
By the way, if you look at the list of editors, you will see that 'Ian' is one of the ones playing political games with what should be an reliable and impartial source of information. He should be thoroughly ashamed of himself. I can only hope that he might read this and think about his role is this deception. He is entitled to his opinions, and is more than free to express them here. However, I would really hope that he would have the integrity to take a stand with the other editors in favour of a more impartial and reliable approach to the Wikipedia page. Unless independent evidence can be offered for Nigeria, It should be removed. The same goes for other countries where there is clear evidence of contestation. There are only a few countries, but it matters for the sake of accuracy. Please think about it!
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LOL! UNSCR1244 was written in 1999 and since then Yugoslavia has changed its name to Serbia. Serbia sits in the same UN seat that Yugoslavia did back then. The only difference is the name has changed.
You comment is an example of the silly type of games Albanians play.
(Zoran, 19 February 2012 17:01)
FR Yugoslavia didn't join the UN until 2000, so Yugoslavia didn't even have a seat back then.
Yugoslavia became Serbia and Montenegro in 2003 after huge constitutional changes. It changed from being a Federation to a Confederation. Then Montenegro and Serbia parted ways in 2006.
Serbia is not the same state as the FR Yugoslavia. Serbia is one of the successors to the successor of FR Yugoslavia.
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Well done.
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the same old story alvaninas lie and cry nothing new here ,the bigger countries cant get paid out that easy and another thing if you dont have
brazil,russia,china,india and other massive nations then you will never see a independant province ever and to you serbians hello from brazil i am a serb supporter like all in brazil.
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Kenny, I love the way you shut the door close to this discussion.
Show the facts baby, and you sure delivered.
Look at Vuk's face, he looks possessed.
Daemons.......
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Kosovo Deputy Prime Minister Behgjet Pacolli said two days ago that he had received a verbal confirmation from Uganda’s Foreign Ministry that the country had recognized Kosovo’s independence - are you kidding me, verbal confirmation? Shouldn't there be some formal ceremony, instead of a verbal OK, and the passing of a stuffed envelope at a local Uganda McDonald's? The Pristina Albanians making crap up again, what a surprise. Their little Kosova dream state is made up in their own minds, a dream that will evaporate soon.
(winston, 19 February 2012
Hello there Winston,
I was wondering where did you go.! Finally here you are again posting coments..Good..!
Forget Uganda in this case..! What about the other 89 UN member states that do recongnize Kosova as state (NOT RESPECTING SERBIA'S TERRITORIAL INTEGRITY)..Check the website Kosovathankyou and read all verbal notes..What kind a cermony are you talking about. A normal leter like that is enough for us.. Maybe one day we will celebrate together here in Prishtina when we have a Serbian embassy inouagurated..
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And Vuk also denies that he is gay....
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Kosovo Deputy Prime Minister Behgjet Pacolli said two days ago that he had received a verbal confirmation from Uganda’s Foreign Ministry that the country had recognized Kosovo’s independence.
Probably went something like this:
RINGRING! (Pacolli: Please pick up please pick up) RINGRING!
Ugandan Foreign Minister: Hello?
Pacolli: Whoohoo! He answered! That must mean he recognizes the Republic of Kosova! :)
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Absolutely, Kosovo Albanians totally support you beucase Kosovo's UDI is in accordance with UN1244 and UN1244 says nowhere "Kosovo is Serbia" :)
(icj1, 19 February 2012 15:29)
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LOL! UNSCR1244 was written in 1999 and since then Yugoslavia has changed its name to Serbia. Serbia sits in the same UN seat that Yugoslavia did back then. The only difference is the name has changed.
You comment is an example of the silly type of games Albanians play.
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Vuk Jeremic is like Pinocchio. Every time he lies his nose grows up.
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"Kosovo Deputy Prime Minister Behgjet Pacolli said two days ago that he had received a verbal confirmation from Uganda’s Foreign Ministry that the country had recognized Kosovo’s independence - are you kidding me, verbal confirmation? "
It's a diplomatic idiom: "note ver·bale
[nawt ver-bal] Show IPA
plural notes ver·bales [nawt ver-bal] Show IPA. French .
a diplomatic communication prepared in the third person and unsigned: less formal than a note but more formal than an aide-mémoire. "
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/note+verbale
Some countries do not specifically recognize new countries but simply initiate diplomatic and business contacts with them, and that constitutes "recognition." Vuk apparently doesn't approve.
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Yawn zzzzzzzzzzzz.
Is he going to do this every time a country recognises Kosovo? Quite pathetic really.ka
Just because he pretends it didn't happen doesn't make it reality.
Here is a copy of the recognition note.
http://www.kosovatimes.net/repository/images/njohja.jpg
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Do not know, really what is behind these bribes. Assume safely, Beghjet Pacolli being a double-agent. This has a long traditions since 30-s. We know that he is untouchable in Moscow, I know some very good details but maynot sing. Just believe that no case can be open against him there, no matter what he is doing.
(Ataman, 19 February 2012 15:23)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjWZePE-JBQ
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Did the ghost of Idi Amin confirm this to him?
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I don't know why, but reading this article reminded me of the following:
http://bit.ly/nb3NDn
(Moderators -- please make this a clickable link, since I can't do so on my phone)
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Meanwhile, in the real world... [link]
(Gustave, 19 February 2012 15:17)
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Now if Uganda recognised "Kosova" on 5th Dec, 2011 - why were Albanians here thanking Uganda for its recognition on Feb 17th? Why did your bribe minister say they offered a verbal recognition?
That link you provided can be read in many ways, it doesn't necessarily mean recognition was offered.
The truth of the matter is that the US and other states are doing backflips to stop any kind of vote at the UN regarding KiM. If we had one, the true number of recognitions would be known and it is not as high as you believe.
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Yes, PapaJohn. You're right.
Same goes for Serbia. Imagine all the energy Serbia (the second-worst economy in the Balkans after Kosovo) spent the last twelve years crying over Kosovo that could have been better spent on making the lives of ordinary Serbs better.
You think Serbia's not giving bribes to banana republics for them to not recognize Kosovo?
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Shouldn't such a denial be comming from the Ugandan foreign ministry and not the Serbian?
(Danilo, 19 February 2012 14:43)
Check the website of his ministry..it's always him talking.
Meanwhile, in the real world... http://mediacdn.disqus.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/215/6832/original.jpg
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who is lying here....?
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Shouldn't such a denial be comming from the Ugandan foreign ministry and not the Serbian?
(Danilo, 19 February 2012 14:43)
Yes, just like the confirmation of a recognition should come from there and not from Mr. Bribe Minister himself to be credible.
So what about the two mentioned countries, Nigeria and Central African Republic? Did they recognize Kosovo or not? Wikipedia shows these countries in the list, but the references given there only lead to Kosovo related websites and nothing official and credible.
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Is Vuk Jeremic the speaker of Uganda foreign minister?
I thought he was foreign minister of Serbia.
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Half of the countries have not recognized they claim have,Albanians are the masters in cheateing and lying!
Anyway,it is much more importnat that we keep UN1244 which says kosovo is Serbia,and to keep them out of EU,NATO,UN with our allies that are becoming more and more powerful!
Thats everything we need!
(CG, 19 February 2012 14:28)
If USA and 90% of western most powerful countries in the world have recognized me, I will not give a hoot about the rest.
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"“It is possible that some people close to the local authorities have been bribed but these African nations have not changed their positions regarding respect of Serbia’s sovereignty and territorial integrity,” the Serbian FM stressed."
These countries have people (who can be bribed) close to the local authorities ?! No wonder Vuk is the best asset for Kosovo's recognition - as he goes and offends the authorities of those countries by telling them that they have corrupt administrations.
Some times it makes me think weter this is a Pacolli's strategy to make Vuk say those words, and poor Vuk, being a novice, falls for it LOL
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This bribe money that Pristina doles out to third-world nations for worthless recognitions, could better be spent improving the daily lives of people in KiM, don't we all think?
(PapaJohn, 19 February 2012 14:52)
Do not know, really what is behind these bribes. Assume safely, Beghjet Pacolli being a double-agent. This has a long traditions since 30-s. We know that he is untouchable in Moscow, I know some very good details but maynot sing. Just believe that no case can be open against him there, no matter what he is doing.
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Hey Vuk, look, I got a nice little surprise for you: http://mediacdn.disqus.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/215/6832/original.jpg
Now with whom did you actually talk to?
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Anyway,it is much more importnat that we keep UN1244 which says kosovo is Serbia
(CG, 19 February 2012 14:28)
Absolutely, Kosovo Albanians totally support you beucase Kosovo's UDI is in accordance with UN1244 and UN1244 says nowhere "Kosovo is Serbia" :)
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Shouldn't such a denial be comming from the Ugandan foreign ministry and not the Serbian?
(Danilo, 19 February 2012 14:43)
Since Vuk is such a gifted statesman he has decided that he is more qualified for the job of Uganda's FM then the actual job owner is. All questions concerning Uganda have from now on to be directed towards Vuk.
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“It is possible that some people close to the local authorities have been bribed but these African nations have not changed their positions regarding respect of Serbia’s sovereignty and territorial integrity,” the Serbian FM stressed.
Strange. A person like Kosovo's officially appointed bribe minister Pacolli should be smart enough to know that in these corrupt African countries, it's not sufficient to only hand over some money to lower executives in the ministries, but you have to bribe the ministers in person!
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“It is possible that some people close to the local authorities have been bribed but these African nations have not changed their positions regarding respect of Serbia’s sovereignty and territorial integrity,” the Serbian FM stressed.
I am surprise that Russia did not bribe you yet to recognize SO and Abhkazi, and once they do, you recognize those two and not even your President,PM and other Ministers will know about it.
Is this is what VUK is trying to tell us?
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haven't we hear this before, isn't that what he says every time a country recognizes Kosova? Whatever he says, the process can't be stopped, and by the end of the year the number of countries that recognize Kosova will be at least 100, most likely more.
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Kosovo Deputy Prime Minister Behgjet Pacolli said two days ago that he had received a verbal confirmation from Uganda’s Foreign Ministry that the country had recognized Kosovo’s independence - are you kidding me, verbal confirmation? Shouldn't there be some formal ceremony, instead of a verbal OK, and the passing of a stuffed envelope at a local Uganda McDonald's? The Pristina Albanians making crap up again, what a surprise. Their little Kosova dream state is made up in their own minds, a dream that will evaporate soon.
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Half of the countries have not recognized they claim have,Albanians are the masters in cheateing and lying!
Anyway,it is much more importnat that we keep UN1244 which says kosovo is Serbia,and to keep them out of EU,NATO,UN with our allies that are becoming more and more powerful!
Thats everything we need!
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This bribe money that Pristina doles out to third-world nations for worthless recognitions, could better be spent improving the daily lives of people in KiM, don't we all think?
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Shouldn't such a denial be comming from the Ugandan foreign ministry and not the Serbian?
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Hey Vuk, look, I got a nice little surprise for you: http://mediacdn.disqus.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/215/6832/original.jpg
Now with whom did you actually talk to?
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Is Vuk Jeremic the speaker of Uganda foreign minister?
I thought he was foreign minister of Serbia.
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haven't we hear this before, isn't that what he says every time a country recognizes Kosova? Whatever he says, the process can't be stopped, and by the end of the year the number of countries that recognize Kosova will be at least 100, most likely more.
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Anyway,it is much more importnat that we keep UN1244 which says kosovo is Serbia
(CG, 19 February 2012 14:28)
Absolutely, Kosovo Albanians totally support you beucase Kosovo's UDI is in accordance with UN1244 and UN1244 says nowhere "Kosovo is Serbia" :)
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Kosovo Deputy Prime Minister Behgjet Pacolli said two days ago that he had received a verbal confirmation from Uganda’s Foreign Ministry that the country had recognized Kosovo’s independence - are you kidding me, verbal confirmation? Shouldn't there be some formal ceremony, instead of a verbal OK, and the passing of a stuffed envelope at a local Uganda McDonald's? The Pristina Albanians making crap up again, what a surprise. Their little Kosova dream state is made up in their own minds, a dream that will evaporate soon.
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Half of the countries have not recognized they claim have,Albanians are the masters in cheateing and lying!
Anyway,it is much more importnat that we keep UN1244 which says kosovo is Serbia,and to keep them out of EU,NATO,UN with our allies that are becoming more and more powerful!
Thats everything we need!
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Yes, PapaJohn. You're right.
Same goes for Serbia. Imagine all the energy Serbia (the second-worst economy in the Balkans after Kosovo) spent the last twelve years crying over Kosovo that could have been better spent on making the lives of ordinary Serbs better.
You think Serbia's not giving bribes to banana republics for them to not recognize Kosovo?
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Shouldn't such a denial be comming from the Ugandan foreign ministry and not the Serbian?
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Vuk Jeremic is like Pinocchio. Every time he lies his nose grows up.
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Yawn zzzzzzzzzzzz.
Is he going to do this every time a country recognises Kosovo? Quite pathetic really.ka
Just because he pretends it didn't happen doesn't make it reality.
Here is a copy of the recognition note.
http://www.kosovatimes.net/repository/images/njohja.jpg
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Shouldn't such a denial be comming from the Ugandan foreign ministry and not the Serbian?
(Danilo, 19 February 2012 14:43)
Since Vuk is such a gifted statesman he has decided that he is more qualified for the job of Uganda's FM then the actual job owner is. All questions concerning Uganda have from now on to be directed towards Vuk.
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“It is possible that some people close to the local authorities have been bribed but these African nations have not changed their positions regarding respect of Serbia’s sovereignty and territorial integrity,” the Serbian FM stressed.
Strange. A person like Kosovo's officially appointed bribe minister Pacolli should be smart enough to know that in these corrupt African countries, it's not sufficient to only hand over some money to lower executives in the ministries, but you have to bribe the ministers in person!
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Half of the countries have not recognized they claim have,Albanians are the masters in cheateing and lying!
Anyway,it is much more importnat that we keep UN1244 which says kosovo is Serbia,and to keep them out of EU,NATO,UN with our allies that are becoming more and more powerful!
Thats everything we need!
(CG, 19 February 2012 14:28)
If USA and 90% of western most powerful countries in the world have recognized me, I will not give a hoot about the rest.
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And Vuk also denies that he is gay....
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who is lying here....?
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"“It is possible that some people close to the local authorities have been bribed but these African nations have not changed their positions regarding respect of Serbia’s sovereignty and territorial integrity,” the Serbian FM stressed."
These countries have people (who can be bribed) close to the local authorities ?! No wonder Vuk is the best asset for Kosovo's recognition - as he goes and offends the authorities of those countries by telling them that they have corrupt administrations.
Some times it makes me think weter this is a Pacolli's strategy to make Vuk say those words, and poor Vuk, being a novice, falls for it LOL
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Shouldn't such a denial be comming from the Ugandan foreign ministry and not the Serbian?
(Danilo, 19 February 2012 14:43)
Check the website of his ministry..it's always him talking.
Meanwhile, in the real world... http://mediacdn.disqus.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/215/6832/original.jpg
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“It is possible that some people close to the local authorities have been bribed but these African nations have not changed their positions regarding respect of Serbia’s sovereignty and territorial integrity,” the Serbian FM stressed.
I am surprise that Russia did not bribe you yet to recognize SO and Abhkazi, and once they do, you recognize those two and not even your President,PM and other Ministers will know about it.
Is this is what VUK is trying to tell us?
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"Kosovo Deputy Prime Minister Behgjet Pacolli said two days ago that he had received a verbal confirmation from Uganda’s Foreign Ministry that the country had recognized Kosovo’s independence - are you kidding me, verbal confirmation? "
It's a diplomatic idiom: "note ver·bale
[nawt ver-bal] Show IPA
plural notes ver·bales [nawt ver-bal] Show IPA. French .
a diplomatic communication prepared in the third person and unsigned: less formal than a note but more formal than an aide-mémoire. "
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/note+verbale
Some countries do not specifically recognize new countries but simply initiate diplomatic and business contacts with them, and that constitutes "recognition." Vuk apparently doesn't approve.
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Kenny, I love the way you shut the door close to this discussion.
Show the facts baby, and you sure delivered.
Look at Vuk's face, he looks possessed.
Daemons.......
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Kosovo Deputy Prime Minister Behgjet Pacolli said two days ago that he had received a verbal confirmation from Uganda’s Foreign Ministry that the country had recognized Kosovo’s independence.
Probably went something like this:
RINGRING! (Pacolli: Please pick up please pick up) RINGRING!
Ugandan Foreign Minister: Hello?
Pacolli: Whoohoo! He answered! That must mean he recognizes the Republic of Kosova! :)
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(Ian, UK, 19 February 2012 16:01)
(Kenny, 19 February 2012 15:57)
Well done guys!
Do you remember when just last week Jeremic was saying: Serbia is respected in the world and that is thanks to his great and wise diplomacy?
And what about the: two countries will revoke the recognition?
He strikes again... LOL
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Meanwhile, in the real world... [link]
(Gustave, 19 February 2012 15:17)
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Now if Uganda recognised "Kosova" on 5th Dec, 2011 - why were Albanians here thanking Uganda for its recognition on Feb 17th? Why did your bribe minister say they offered a verbal recognition?
That link you provided can be read in many ways, it doesn't necessarily mean recognition was offered.
The truth of the matter is that the US and other states are doing backflips to stop any kind of vote at the UN regarding KiM. If we had one, the true number of recognitions would be known and it is not as high as you believe.
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Absolutely, Kosovo Albanians totally support you beucase Kosovo's UDI is in accordance with UN1244 and UN1244 says nowhere "Kosovo is Serbia" :)
(icj1, 19 February 2012 15:29)
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LOL! UNSCR1244 was written in 1999 and since then Yugoslavia has changed its name to Serbia. Serbia sits in the same UN seat that Yugoslavia did back then. The only difference is the name has changed.
You comment is an example of the silly type of games Albanians play.
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The truth of the matter is that the US and other states are doing backflips to stop any kind of vote at the UN regarding KiM. If we had one, the true number of recognitions would be known and it is not as high as you believe.
(Zoran, 19 February 2012 16:18)
If it were for a vote, that has happened already, dear. 109 countries said that Kosovo is a country when they voted for Kosovo's admission to the IMF and WB.
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LOL! UNSCR1244 was written in 1999 and since then Yugoslavia has changed its name to Serbia. Serbia sits in the same UN seat that Yugoslavia did back then. The only difference is the name has changed.
You comment is an example of the silly type of games Albanians play.
(Zoran, 19 February 2012 17:01)
Does not matter dear. UNSC Resolution 1244 says nowhere "Kosovo is Yugoslavia".
You comment is an example of the silly type of games you play by referring to the Serbian version of 1244 LOL
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This bribe money that Pristina doles out to third-world nations for worthless recognitions, could better be spent improving the daily lives of people in KiM, don't we all think?
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Shouldn't such a denial be comming from the Ugandan foreign ministry and not the Serbian?
(Danilo, 19 February 2012 14:43)
Yes, just like the confirmation of a recognition should come from there and not from Mr. Bribe Minister himself to be credible.
So what about the two mentioned countries, Nigeria and Central African Republic? Did they recognize Kosovo or not? Wikipedia shows these countries in the list, but the references given there only lead to Kosovo related websites and nothing official and credible.
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LOL! UNSCR1244 was written in 1999 and since then Yugoslavia has changed its name to Serbia. Serbia sits in the same UN seat that Yugoslavia did back then. The only difference is the name has changed.
You comment is an example of the silly type of games Albanians play.
(Zoran, 19 February 2012 17:01)
FR Yugoslavia didn't join the UN until 2000, so Yugoslavia didn't even have a seat back then.
Yugoslavia became Serbia and Montenegro in 2003 after huge constitutional changes. It changed from being a Federation to a Confederation. Then Montenegro and Serbia parted ways in 2006.
Serbia is not the same state as the FR Yugoslavia. Serbia is one of the successors to the successor of FR Yugoslavia.
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Here is the link that you can see it clearly. even clear enough for Jeremic! http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151316751270153&set=a.320390645152.341768.307617160152&type=1&theater
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Did the ghost of Idi Amin confirm this to him?
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Here is a copy of the recognition note.
[link]
(Ian, UK, 19 February 2012 16:01)
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Exactly where does this note recognise "Kosova"?
It refers to Pacolli as "Prime Minister, Government of Kosovo" - not the "Government of the Republic of Kosovo".
And then it goes on to say "we are behind other nations that have recognised the Republic of Kosovo". They are not with, but behind nations that have recognised ....
So where exactly in that text does it recognise the "Republic of Kosovo"? The fact is, it doesn't.
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Shouldn't such a denial be comming from the Ugandan foreign ministry and not the Serbian?
(Danilo, 19 February 2012 14:43)
Correctly, especially when we reflect that it comes from this slimy FM. Jeremic already proved in the past that he was lying, just as when he said Oman "rescinded" recognition. I'm only believing it when it comes from the Ugandians.
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Kosovo Deputy Prime Minister Behgjet Pacolli said two days ago that he had received a verbal confirmation from Uganda’s Foreign Ministry that the country had recognized Kosovo’s independence - are you kidding me, verbal confirmation? Shouldn't there be some formal ceremony, instead of a verbal OK, and the passing of a stuffed envelope at a local Uganda McDonald's? The Pristina Albanians making crap up again, what a surprise. Their little Kosova dream state is made up in their own minds, a dream that will evaporate soon.
(winston, 19 February 2012
Hello there Winston,
I was wondering where did you go.! Finally here you are again posting coments..Good..!
Forget Uganda in this case..! What about the other 89 UN member states that do recongnize Kosova as state (NOT RESPECTING SERBIA'S TERRITORIAL INTEGRITY)..Check the website Kosovathankyou and read all verbal notes..What kind a cermony are you talking about. A normal leter like that is enough for us.. Maybe one day we will celebrate together here in Prishtina when we have a Serbian embassy inouagurated..
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This is the MOST childish politican I ever seen.And he wants to run for Un office.Dude, I will not hire him even for New York taxi driver.Remember when he was withdrawing ambassadors and then reinsteting...that,s was a humiliatin,when he wanted a opinion from ICJ abour Kosovo independace and he got it...again humiliation,when he is telling that this or that country dident recognize Kosovo independence and he was prouven wrong,another humilation...what next?
Oh well,he gets payed for this,so who cares...way to go Vuk.
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Sadly, Wikipedia's list of recognitions is completely unreliable. The entry on Kosovo's recognition, while once an accurate record of the situation, is now being used by Kosovo Albanians and supporters to present a thoroughly distorted picture. Any information coming from Pristina is automatically accepted. Any information from Belgrade is systematically rejected. It is appalling. For example, Nigeria has not recognised Kosovo. It has not only denied it, but anyone with any knowledge of international affairs would now that Nigeria is fiercely opposed to unilateral acts of secession. (Look up Biafra.) and yet, every time anyone has tried to bring this up, their complaints are dismissed and their edits are reversed by a little cabal of biased editors. All this only goes to undermine the credibility of Wikipedia, which I had thought at one point was actually starting to become more trustworthy and accurate.
By the way, if you look at the list of editors, you will see that 'Ian' is one of the ones playing political games with what should be an reliable and impartial source of information. He should be thoroughly ashamed of himself. I can only hope that he might read this and think about his role is this deception. He is entitled to his opinions, and is more than free to express them here. However, I would really hope that he would have the integrity to take a stand with the other editors in favour of a more impartial and reliable approach to the Wikipedia page. Unless independent evidence can be offered for Nigeria, It should be removed. The same goes for other countries where there is clear evidence of contestation. There are only a few countries, but it matters for the sake of accuracy. Please think about it!
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The funny thing is, Paccoli got the recognition note from the Ugandan Foreign Minister Sam Kutesa.
Jeremic is now claiming that Uganda didn't recognise because the Ugandan Foreign Minister's Assistant/ coffee maker Henry Oryem Okello apparently said so.
Who would you rather believe? The Ugandan FM or his assistant/ coffee maker?
Whats next in make believe land? Russia didn't recognise Abkhazia?
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The fact that at the bottom the letter states that we look forward to establishing diplomatic relations tells you all anyone needs to know
Jeremic don't cry. You had lost this battle before it began bit is dated in December because that is when the decision was taken but for political reasons(jeremic begging not to go through with it before his African speech) was not released
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Amazing the conceptual gymnastics some of the regular commentators are engaging in to say "no, it isn't so", when it comes to yet another "insignificant recognition"
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the same old story alvaninas lie and cry nothing new here ,the bigger countries cant get paid out that easy and another thing if you dont have
brazil,russia,china,india and other massive nations then you will never see a independant province ever and to you serbians hello from brazil i am a serb supporter like all in brazil.
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It refers to Pacolli as "Prime Minister, Government of Kosovo" - not the "Government of the Republic of Kosovo".
And then it goes on to say "we are behind other nations that have recognised the Republic of Kosovo". They are not with, but behind nations that have recognised ....
So where exactly in that text does it recognise the "Republic of Kosovo"? The fact is, it doesn't.
(Zoran, 19 February 2012 19:32)
You should go over once again to tell us where is written PM Pacolli.
It says : Former President of Kosova, and under that is addressed to; First Deputy PM of Government of Kosova.
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Well done.
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Serbian Foreign Minister Vuk Jeremic said the sky is green. Even though he's the only person who said it, to be fair, we have to include it and consider the matter disputed.' Is that where we're going?
Jeremiç tomorrow: "Republic of Albnia, USA and Gremany never recognize Kosovo". He is so fanny! :) LOL JEREMIÇ
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This bribe money that Pristina doles out to third-world nations for worthless recognitions, could better be spent improving the daily lives of people in KiM, don't we all think?
(PapaJohn, 19 February 2012 14:52)
Do not know, really what is behind these bribes. Assume safely, Beghjet Pacolli being a double-agent. This has a long traditions since 30-s. We know that he is untouchable in Moscow, I know some very good details but maynot sing. Just believe that no case can be open against him there, no matter what he is doing.
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So what is your point? We all know that FR Yugoslavia means Serbia these days, right?
(Zoran, 20 February 2012 08:59)
You still did not get my point ?! Dear, nobody is disputing that FR Yugoslavia means Serbia these days... that's not the point.
The point is that you lied because the Arabic, Chinese, English, French, Russian and Spanish versions of UNSC Resolution 1244 say nowhere that “Kosovo is Yugoslavia” or “Kosovo is Serbia”.
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Put it to a vote at the UN and we'll see who really recognises "Kosova".
(Zoran, 20 February 2012 11:13)
But Kosovo knows already that, at least, 109 countries consider Kosovo a country because they said so during the WB and IMF vote. So what’s the point of the UN vote ?! But if you have doubts and want a UN vote, by all means go ahead and ask for it.
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Do you have a problem with reading comprehension? I said a UN vote not IMF or WB. Palestine got UNESCO membership with 107 UN votes. Why doesn't "Kosova" attempt to get membership? Please explain.
(Zoran, 20 February 2012 10:19)
Because the money is with the WB and IMF, mate. Is the money that matters LOL
And then, it does not make a difference, dear, as far as who considers Kosovo a country. 109 countries voted that Kosovo is a country, regardless whether the vote happens in the UN, IMF, WB, UNESCO, in the Caribbean beaches or in the Moon :).
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(Zoran, 19 February 2012 19:32)
You should go over once again to tell us where is written PM Pacolli.
It says : Former President of Kosova, and under that is addressed to; First Deputy PM of Government of Kosova.
(ardi asllani, 20 February 2012 07:54)
Go easy on Zoran… he is losing his mind and starting to hallucinate LOL
He is seeing words in 1244 that are not in there; he is seeing words in the note verbale that are not in there :)
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Do not know, really what is behind these bribes. Assume safely, Beghjet Pacolli being a double-agent. This has a long traditions since 30-s. We know that he is untouchable in Moscow, I know some very good details but maynot sing. Just believe that no case can be open against him there, no matter what he is doing.
(Ataman, 19 February 2012 15:23)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjWZePE-JBQ
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My point was that UNSC Resolution 1244 says nowhere that “Kosovo is Serbia” or “Kosovo is Yugoslavia” and that Zoran must have been referring to the famous Serbian version of 1244.
(icj1, 20 February 2012 17:24)
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It wasn't me who said that. It was CG and you were replying to him. Please try and be accurate at least once in your life. Don't you get dizzy with all the spinning that you do?
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@Silva
the same old story alvaninas lie and cry nothing new here ,the bigger countries cant get paid out that easy and another thing if you dont have
brazil,russia,china,india and other massive nations then you will never see a independant province ever and to you serbians hello from brazil i am a serb supporter like all in brazil.
(silva, 19 February 2012 19:35)
@Silva
Do you actually think that we care what you and your Brazilian peeps think about Kosova? Well take a wild guess, nooooooooo……
I have many friends from your necks of the woods that sympathize with Albanians 100%, but you must have your own reasons for having a skewed mind.
You probably think that Ronaldo was better then Messi…LOL don’t you?!
As far as your desperate BRIC countries are concerned, we really do not give two craps about you. US bombed the sh.. out of Serbia while ‘R’ from the BRIC was keeping quiet, US bombed the ‘C’ (of the BRIC) embassy in Belgrade while ‘C’ kept quiet. You as a 'B' of the BRIC were never consulted for anything, and the ‘I’ would not dare and say a word as their livelihood depends on the US of A. So you do the math, that’s if you can add 2+2.
We have the rulers of the world in our side and that’s what counts, that’s why we are an independent nation and loving every second of it. You’re better off going to your beaches and enjoy all the nice looking Brazilian women, as oppose to making naïve comments like this. Actually I plan to fly down there in April myself.
Yes I did, I did say it!!!
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Does not matter dear. UNSC Resolution 1244 says nowhere "Kosovo is Yugoslavia".
(icj1, 19 February 2012 20:09)
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So what is your point? We all know that FR Yugoslavia means Serbia these days, right?
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Newsflash for Jeremic: http://koha.net/?page=1,13,88547
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Two simple questions for my Albanian friends here. Please be brave and answer them.
1. We have seen this same letter over and over. It is dated 5th of Dec, 2011. Why did Piccoli, on the 17th Feb, 2012, say that Uganda offered verbal recognition? If that letter was a letter of recognition, why the need for the announcement on the 17th of Feb?
2. Where exactly in that letter on the 5th of Dec does it recognise the "Republic of Kosovo"? It came from the Republic of Uganda but only refers to the "Government of Kosovo" and not the "Republic of Kosovo".
It seems like Albanians are getting so desperate for independence these days that they will believe anything.
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But Kosovo knows already that, at least, 109 countries consider Kosovo a country because they said so during the WB and IMF vote. So what’s the point of the UN vote ?!
(icj1, 20 February 2012 17:46)
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LOL! You sure do have some imagination, which is very typical of Albanians. The IMF and WB are not places where countries are legitimised. Now that is done at the UN, which is where it counts and where you lack numbers. The fact is, "Kosova" will never be legitimised.
But hey, you can still go ahead and spin whatever rubbish you like and attempt to prove something that just isn't true. I'll give you one thing though, you are a very determined spinster even though what you say is complete rubbish.
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Fatihkoparan and others - can you please tell me where the letter officially announces recognition? In formal terms, the letter is extremely careful not to mention recognition in explicit terms. It is merely a thank you note, giving some indications that it might recognise Kosovo in the future.
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Icj1 - please can we put this argument about 1244 and the connection between Serbia and Yugoslavia to bed.
(Jim, 20 February 2012 06:55)
What argument ?! I don’t think there is any argument - Serbia is the successor of Yugoslavia… end of the story. Unless, of course, you diasgree.
My point was that UNSC Resolution 1244 says nowhere that “Kosovo is Serbia” or “Kosovo is Yugoslavia” and that Zoran must have been referring to the famous Serbian version of 1244.
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I don't know why, but reading this article reminded me of the following:
http://bit.ly/nb3NDn
(Moderators -- please make this a clickable link, since I can't do so on my phone)
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Vuk Jeremic is like Pinocchio. Every time he lies his nose grows up.
(Avni)
LOL this must be making you sick...
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2012&mm=01&dd=24&nav_id=78433
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Icj1 - please can we put this argument about 1244 and the connection between Serbia and Yugoslavia to bed. In the ICJ case on Kosovo's independence, only one country, the US, tried to make this point (much to the amazement of many observers who thought that there is no way it would have made such a lazy argument). In doing so, it was actually insulting the Court. In the case concerning Serbia and genocide in Bosnia, the Court had already decided that Serbia is now what was then Yugoslavia. The fact that the name had changed did not mean that it could claim that it was not responsible. It is ironic that you call yourself ICJ, and yet seem wholly unaware of this. No other country, not Britain, not France, made this point before the ICJ when they defended Kosovo's independence. If it is so powerful an argument, why didn't every state just make this point, and why didn't the Court simply agree?
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If it were for a vote, that has happened already, dear. 109 countries said that Kosovo is a country when they voted for Kosovo's admission to the IMF and WB.
(icj1, 19 February 2012 20:06)
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Do you have a problem with reading comprehension? I said a UN vote not IMF or WB. Palestine got UNESCO membership with 107 UN votes. Why doesn't "Kosova" attempt to get membership? Please explain.
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My point was that UNSC Resolution 1244 says nowhere that “Kosovo is Serbia” or “Kosovo is Yugoslavia” and that Zoran must have been referring to the famous Serbian version of 1244.
(icj1, 20 February 2012 17:24)
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It also doesn't say that Vojvodina or Sandzak are part of Serbia as well but then it's all implied isn't it?
Why does an agreement have to specify all the provinces? If an agreement is reached which Serbia is a part of then the whole of Serbia is a part of that agreement.
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You should go over once again to tell us where is written PM Pacolli.
It says : Former President of Kosova, and under that is addressed to; First Deputy PM of Government of Kosova.
(ardi asllani, 20 February 2012 07:54)
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And your point is? It says "Kosovo" and not "Republic of Kosovo". Even we admit there are temporary institutions (or interim Government) in KiM, whether legitimate or illegitimate. Why did your bribe minister announce verbal recognition on 17th Feb 2012 if you already have written recognition from 5th Dec 2011? It just doesn't add up so someone is pulling your leg.
Look on Wikipedia and you can see what constitutes a recognition for "Kosova". Just a link to some Albanian news source quoting your bribe minister. Pretty pathetic, right Ian? Lies after lies. Put it to a vote at the UN and we'll see who really recognises "Kosova". If you think you have the support, at least apply for UNESCO membership like Palestine. No vetoes allowed there.
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Shouldn't such a denial be comming from the Ugandan foreign ministry and not the Serbian?
(Danilo, 19 February 2012 14:43)
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Then by the same token should the comfirmation also be coming from Uganda and not Pristina?
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@ (Pls say it ain't so !!! ) daemons. really
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It also doesn't say that Vojvodina or Sandzak are part of Serbia as well but then it's all implied isn't it? Why does an agreement have to specify all the provinces? If an agreement is reached which Serbia is a part of then the whole of Serbia is a part of that agreement.
(Peggy, 21 February 2012 02:37)
Yes, and then what does have that to do with anything that I was stating :) Still 1244 says nowhere that Kosovo is Serbia/Yugoslavia/or the promissed land LOL
Or are you saying Kosovo is part of Zimbabwe because it also doesn't say that Vojvodina or Sandzak are part of Zimbabwe as well but then it's all implied isn't it?!
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Or are you saying Kosovo is part of Zimbabwe because it also doesn't say that Vojvodina or Sandzak are part of Zimbabwe as well but then it's all implied isn't it?!
(icj1, 23 February 2012 04:55)
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Why do you insist on embarrassing yourself?
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This bribe money that Pristina doles out to third-world nations for worthless recognitions, could better be spent improving the daily lives of people in KiM, don't we all think?
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Kosovo Deputy Prime Minister Behgjet Pacolli said two days ago that he had received a verbal confirmation from Uganda’s Foreign Ministry that the country had recognized Kosovo’s independence.
Probably went something like this:
RINGRING! (Pacolli: Please pick up please pick up) RINGRING!
Ugandan Foreign Minister: Hello?
Pacolli: Whoohoo! He answered! That must mean he recognizes the Republic of Kosova! :)
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Kosovo Deputy Prime Minister Behgjet Pacolli said two days ago that he had received a verbal confirmation from Uganda’s Foreign Ministry that the country had recognized Kosovo’s independence - are you kidding me, verbal confirmation? Shouldn't there be some formal ceremony, instead of a verbal OK, and the passing of a stuffed envelope at a local Uganda McDonald's? The Pristina Albanians making crap up again, what a surprise. Their little Kosova dream state is made up in their own minds, a dream that will evaporate soon.
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Half of the countries have not recognized they claim have,Albanians are the masters in cheateing and lying!
Anyway,it is much more importnat that we keep UN1244 which says kosovo is Serbia,and to keep them out of EU,NATO,UN with our allies that are becoming more and more powerful!
Thats everything we need!
(CG, 19 February 2012 14:28)
If USA and 90% of western most powerful countries in the world have recognized me, I will not give a hoot about the rest.
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Anyway,it is much more importnat that we keep UN1244 which says kosovo is Serbia
(CG, 19 February 2012 14:28)
Absolutely, Kosovo Albanians totally support you beucase Kosovo's UDI is in accordance with UN1244 and UN1244 says nowhere "Kosovo is Serbia" :)
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haven't we hear this before, isn't that what he says every time a country recognizes Kosova? Whatever he says, the process can't be stopped, and by the end of the year the number of countries that recognize Kosova will be at least 100, most likely more.
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Vuk Jeremic is like Pinocchio. Every time he lies his nose grows up.
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Absolutely, Kosovo Albanians totally support you beucase Kosovo's UDI is in accordance with UN1244 and UN1244 says nowhere "Kosovo is Serbia" :)
(icj1, 19 February 2012 15:29)
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LOL! UNSCR1244 was written in 1999 and since then Yugoslavia has changed its name to Serbia. Serbia sits in the same UN seat that Yugoslavia did back then. The only difference is the name has changed.
You comment is an example of the silly type of games Albanians play.
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Sadly, Wikipedia's list of recognitions is completely unreliable. The entry on Kosovo's recognition, while once an accurate record of the situation, is now being used by Kosovo Albanians and supporters to present a thoroughly distorted picture. Any information coming from Pristina is automatically accepted. Any information from Belgrade is systematically rejected. It is appalling. For example, Nigeria has not recognised Kosovo. It has not only denied it, but anyone with any knowledge of international affairs would now that Nigeria is fiercely opposed to unilateral acts of secession. (Look up Biafra.) and yet, every time anyone has tried to bring this up, their complaints are dismissed and their edits are reversed by a little cabal of biased editors. All this only goes to undermine the credibility of Wikipedia, which I had thought at one point was actually starting to become more trustworthy and accurate.
By the way, if you look at the list of editors, you will see that 'Ian' is one of the ones playing political games with what should be an reliable and impartial source of information. He should be thoroughly ashamed of himself. I can only hope that he might read this and think about his role is this deception. He is entitled to his opinions, and is more than free to express them here. However, I would really hope that he would have the integrity to take a stand with the other editors in favour of a more impartial and reliable approach to the Wikipedia page. Unless independent evidence can be offered for Nigeria, It should be removed. The same goes for other countries where there is clear evidence of contestation. There are only a few countries, but it matters for the sake of accuracy. Please think about it!
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“It is possible that some people close to the local authorities have been bribed but these African nations have not changed their positions regarding respect of Serbia’s sovereignty and territorial integrity,” the Serbian FM stressed.
I am surprise that Russia did not bribe you yet to recognize SO and Abhkazi, and once they do, you recognize those two and not even your President,PM and other Ministers will know about it.
Is this is what VUK is trying to tell us?
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This bribe money that Pristina doles out to third-world nations for worthless recognitions, could better be spent improving the daily lives of people in KiM, don't we all think?
(PapaJohn, 19 February 2012 14:52)
Do not know, really what is behind these bribes. Assume safely, Beghjet Pacolli being a double-agent. This has a long traditions since 30-s. We know that he is untouchable in Moscow, I know some very good details but maynot sing. Just believe that no case can be open against him there, no matter what he is doing.
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“It is possible that some people close to the local authorities have been bribed but these African nations have not changed their positions regarding respect of Serbia’s sovereignty and territorial integrity,” the Serbian FM stressed.
Strange. A person like Kosovo's officially appointed bribe minister Pacolli should be smart enough to know that in these corrupt African countries, it's not sufficient to only hand over some money to lower executives in the ministries, but you have to bribe the ministers in person!
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Is Vuk Jeremic the speaker of Uganda foreign minister?
I thought he was foreign minister of Serbia.
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Meanwhile, in the real world... [link]
(Gustave, 19 February 2012 15:17)
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Now if Uganda recognised "Kosova" on 5th Dec, 2011 - why were Albanians here thanking Uganda for its recognition on Feb 17th? Why did your bribe minister say they offered a verbal recognition?
That link you provided can be read in many ways, it doesn't necessarily mean recognition was offered.
The truth of the matter is that the US and other states are doing backflips to stop any kind of vote at the UN regarding KiM. If we had one, the true number of recognitions would be known and it is not as high as you believe.
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Shouldn't such a denial be comming from the Ugandan foreign ministry and not the Serbian?
(Danilo, 19 February 2012 14:43)
Yes, just like the confirmation of a recognition should come from there and not from Mr. Bribe Minister himself to be credible.
So what about the two mentioned countries, Nigeria and Central African Republic? Did they recognize Kosovo or not? Wikipedia shows these countries in the list, but the references given there only lead to Kosovo related websites and nothing official and credible.
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Here is a copy of the recognition note.
[link]
(Ian, UK, 19 February 2012 16:01)
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Exactly where does this note recognise "Kosova"?
It refers to Pacolli as "Prime Minister, Government of Kosovo" - not the "Government of the Republic of Kosovo".
And then it goes on to say "we are behind other nations that have recognised the Republic of Kosovo". They are not with, but behind nations that have recognised ....
So where exactly in that text does it recognise the "Republic of Kosovo"? The fact is, it doesn't.
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Shouldn't such a denial be comming from the Ugandan foreign ministry and not the Serbian?
(Danilo, 19 February 2012 14:43)
Since Vuk is such a gifted statesman he has decided that he is more qualified for the job of Uganda's FM then the actual job owner is. All questions concerning Uganda have from now on to be directed towards Vuk.
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I don't know why, but reading this article reminded me of the following:
http://bit.ly/nb3NDn
(Moderators -- please make this a clickable link, since I can't do so on my phone)
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Shouldn't such a denial be comming from the Ugandan foreign ministry and not the Serbian?
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Yes, PapaJohn. You're right.
Same goes for Serbia. Imagine all the energy Serbia (the second-worst economy in the Balkans after Kosovo) spent the last twelve years crying over Kosovo that could have been better spent on making the lives of ordinary Serbs better.
You think Serbia's not giving bribes to banana republics for them to not recognize Kosovo?
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Kenny, I love the way you shut the door close to this discussion.
Show the facts baby, and you sure delivered.
Look at Vuk's face, he looks possessed.
Daemons.......
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"“It is possible that some people close to the local authorities have been bribed but these African nations have not changed their positions regarding respect of Serbia’s sovereignty and territorial integrity,” the Serbian FM stressed."
These countries have people (who can be bribed) close to the local authorities ?! No wonder Vuk is the best asset for Kosovo's recognition - as he goes and offends the authorities of those countries by telling them that they have corrupt administrations.
Some times it makes me think weter this is a Pacolli's strategy to make Vuk say those words, and poor Vuk, being a novice, falls for it LOL
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Did the ghost of Idi Amin confirm this to him?
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Half of the countries have not recognized they claim have,Albanians are the masters in cheateing and lying!
Anyway,it is much more importnat that we keep UN1244 which says kosovo is Serbia,and to keep them out of EU,NATO,UN with our allies that are becoming more and more powerful!
Thats everything we need!
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the same old story alvaninas lie and cry nothing new here ,the bigger countries cant get paid out that easy and another thing if you dont have
brazil,russia,china,india and other massive nations then you will never see a independant province ever and to you serbians hello from brazil i am a serb supporter like all in brazil.
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And Vuk also denies that he is gay....
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Shouldn't such a denial be comming from the Ugandan foreign ministry and not the Serbian?
(Danilo, 19 February 2012 14:43)
Check the website of his ministry..it's always him talking.
Meanwhile, in the real world... http://mediacdn.disqus.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/215/6832/original.jpg
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"Kosovo Deputy Prime Minister Behgjet Pacolli said two days ago that he had received a verbal confirmation from Uganda’s Foreign Ministry that the country had recognized Kosovo’s independence - are you kidding me, verbal confirmation? "
It's a diplomatic idiom: "note ver·bale
[nawt ver-bal] Show IPA
plural notes ver·bales [nawt ver-bal] Show IPA. French .
a diplomatic communication prepared in the third person and unsigned: less formal than a note but more formal than an aide-mémoire. "
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/note+verbale
Some countries do not specifically recognize new countries but simply initiate diplomatic and business contacts with them, and that constitutes "recognition." Vuk apparently doesn't approve.
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LOL! UNSCR1244 was written in 1999 and since then Yugoslavia has changed its name to Serbia. Serbia sits in the same UN seat that Yugoslavia did back then. The only difference is the name has changed.
You comment is an example of the silly type of games Albanians play.
(Zoran, 19 February 2012 17:01)
Does not matter dear. UNSC Resolution 1244 says nowhere "Kosovo is Yugoslavia".
You comment is an example of the silly type of games you play by referring to the Serbian version of 1244 LOL
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Two simple questions for my Albanian friends here. Please be brave and answer them.
1. We have seen this same letter over and over. It is dated 5th of Dec, 2011. Why did Piccoli, on the 17th Feb, 2012, say that Uganda offered verbal recognition? If that letter was a letter of recognition, why the need for the announcement on the 17th of Feb?
2. Where exactly in that letter on the 5th of Dec does it recognise the "Republic of Kosovo"? It came from the Republic of Uganda but only refers to the "Government of Kosovo" and not the "Republic of Kosovo".
It seems like Albanians are getting so desperate for independence these days that they will believe anything.
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Amazing the conceptual gymnastics some of the regular commentators are engaging in to say "no, it isn't so", when it comes to yet another "insignificant recognition"
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Kosovo Deputy Prime Minister Behgjet Pacolli said two days ago that he had received a verbal confirmation from Uganda’s Foreign Ministry that the country had recognized Kosovo’s independence - are you kidding me, verbal confirmation? Shouldn't there be some formal ceremony, instead of a verbal OK, and the passing of a stuffed envelope at a local Uganda McDonald's? The Pristina Albanians making crap up again, what a surprise. Their little Kosova dream state is made up in their own minds, a dream that will evaporate soon.
(winston, 19 February 2012
Hello there Winston,
I was wondering where did you go.! Finally here you are again posting coments..Good..!
Forget Uganda in this case..! What about the other 89 UN member states that do recongnize Kosova as state (NOT RESPECTING SERBIA'S TERRITORIAL INTEGRITY)..Check the website Kosovathankyou and read all verbal notes..What kind a cermony are you talking about. A normal leter like that is enough for us.. Maybe one day we will celebrate together here in Prishtina when we have a Serbian embassy inouagurated..
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You should go over once again to tell us where is written PM Pacolli.
It says : Former President of Kosova, and under that is addressed to; First Deputy PM of Government of Kosova.
(ardi asllani, 20 February 2012 07:54)
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And your point is? It says "Kosovo" and not "Republic of Kosovo". Even we admit there are temporary institutions (or interim Government) in KiM, whether legitimate or illegitimate. Why did your bribe minister announce verbal recognition on 17th Feb 2012 if you already have written recognition from 5th Dec 2011? It just doesn't add up so someone is pulling your leg.
Look on Wikipedia and you can see what constitutes a recognition for "Kosova". Just a link to some Albanian news source quoting your bribe minister. Pretty pathetic, right Ian? Lies after lies. Put it to a vote at the UN and we'll see who really recognises "Kosova". If you think you have the support, at least apply for UNESCO membership like Palestine. No vetoes allowed there.
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Hey Vuk, look, I got a nice little surprise for you: http://mediacdn.disqus.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/215/6832/original.jpg
Now with whom did you actually talk to?
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Shouldn't such a denial be comming from the Ugandan foreign ministry and not the Serbian?
(Danilo, 19 February 2012 14:43)
Correctly, especially when we reflect that it comes from this slimy FM. Jeremic already proved in the past that he was lying, just as when he said Oman "rescinded" recognition. I'm only believing it when it comes from the Ugandians.
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Fatihkoparan and others - can you please tell me where the letter officially announces recognition? In formal terms, the letter is extremely careful not to mention recognition in explicit terms. It is merely a thank you note, giving some indications that it might recognise Kosovo in the future.
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who is lying here....?
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If it were for a vote, that has happened already, dear. 109 countries said that Kosovo is a country when they voted for Kosovo's admission to the IMF and WB.
(icj1, 19 February 2012 20:06)
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Do you have a problem with reading comprehension? I said a UN vote not IMF or WB. Palestine got UNESCO membership with 107 UN votes. Why doesn't "Kosova" attempt to get membership? Please explain.
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Do not know, really what is behind these bribes. Assume safely, Beghjet Pacolli being a double-agent. This has a long traditions since 30-s. We know that he is untouchable in Moscow, I know some very good details but maynot sing. Just believe that no case can be open against him there, no matter what he is doing.
(Ataman, 19 February 2012 15:23)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjWZePE-JBQ
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The truth of the matter is that the US and other states are doing backflips to stop any kind of vote at the UN regarding KiM. If we had one, the true number of recognitions would be known and it is not as high as you believe.
(Zoran, 19 February 2012 16:18)
If it were for a vote, that has happened already, dear. 109 countries said that Kosovo is a country when they voted for Kosovo's admission to the IMF and WB.
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So what is your point? We all know that FR Yugoslavia means Serbia these days, right?
(Zoran, 20 February 2012 08:59)
You still did not get my point ?! Dear, nobody is disputing that FR Yugoslavia means Serbia these days... that's not the point.
The point is that you lied because the Arabic, Chinese, English, French, Russian and Spanish versions of UNSC Resolution 1244 say nowhere that “Kosovo is Yugoslavia” or “Kosovo is Serbia”.
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Put it to a vote at the UN and we'll see who really recognises "Kosova".
(Zoran, 20 February 2012 11:13)
But Kosovo knows already that, at least, 109 countries consider Kosovo a country because they said so during the WB and IMF vote. So what’s the point of the UN vote ?! But if you have doubts and want a UN vote, by all means go ahead and ask for it.
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Do you have a problem with reading comprehension? I said a UN vote not IMF or WB. Palestine got UNESCO membership with 107 UN votes. Why doesn't "Kosova" attempt to get membership? Please explain.
(Zoran, 20 February 2012 10:19)
Because the money is with the WB and IMF, mate. Is the money that matters LOL
And then, it does not make a difference, dear, as far as who considers Kosovo a country. 109 countries voted that Kosovo is a country, regardless whether the vote happens in the UN, IMF, WB, UNESCO, in the Caribbean beaches or in the Moon :).
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(Zoran, 19 February 2012 19:32)
You should go over once again to tell us where is written PM Pacolli.
It says : Former President of Kosova, and under that is addressed to; First Deputy PM of Government of Kosova.
(ardi asllani, 20 February 2012 07:54)
Go easy on Zoran… he is losing his mind and starting to hallucinate LOL
He is seeing words in 1244 that are not in there; he is seeing words in the note verbale that are not in there :)
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Well done.
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Yawn zzzzzzzzzzzz.
Is he going to do this every time a country recognises Kosovo? Quite pathetic really.ka
Just because he pretends it didn't happen doesn't make it reality.
Here is a copy of the recognition note.
http://www.kosovatimes.net/repository/images/njohja.jpg
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The fact that at the bottom the letter states that we look forward to establishing diplomatic relations tells you all anyone needs to know
Jeremic don't cry. You had lost this battle before it began bit is dated in December because that is when the decision was taken but for political reasons(jeremic begging not to go through with it before his African speech) was not released
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Vuk Jeremic is like Pinocchio. Every time he lies his nose grows up.
(Avni)
LOL this must be making you sick...
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2012&mm=01&dd=24&nav_id=78433
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Does not matter dear. UNSC Resolution 1244 says nowhere "Kosovo is Yugoslavia".
(icj1, 19 February 2012 20:09)
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So what is your point? We all know that FR Yugoslavia means Serbia these days, right?
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Shouldn't such a denial be comming from the Ugandan foreign ministry and not the Serbian?
(Danilo, 19 February 2012 14:43)
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Then by the same token should the comfirmation also be coming from Uganda and not Pristina?
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LOL! UNSCR1244 was written in 1999 and since then Yugoslavia has changed its name to Serbia. Serbia sits in the same UN seat that Yugoslavia did back then. The only difference is the name has changed.
You comment is an example of the silly type of games Albanians play.
(Zoran, 19 February 2012 17:01)
FR Yugoslavia didn't join the UN until 2000, so Yugoslavia didn't even have a seat back then.
Yugoslavia became Serbia and Montenegro in 2003 after huge constitutional changes. It changed from being a Federation to a Confederation. Then Montenegro and Serbia parted ways in 2006.
Serbia is not the same state as the FR Yugoslavia. Serbia is one of the successors to the successor of FR Yugoslavia.
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(Ian, UK, 19 February 2012 16:01)
(Kenny, 19 February 2012 15:57)
Well done guys!
Do you remember when just last week Jeremic was saying: Serbia is respected in the world and that is thanks to his great and wise diplomacy?
And what about the: two countries will revoke the recognition?
He strikes again... LOL
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Icj1 - please can we put this argument about 1244 and the connection between Serbia and Yugoslavia to bed.
(Jim, 20 February 2012 06:55)
What argument ?! I don’t think there is any argument - Serbia is the successor of Yugoslavia… end of the story. Unless, of course, you diasgree.
My point was that UNSC Resolution 1244 says nowhere that “Kosovo is Serbia” or “Kosovo is Yugoslavia” and that Zoran must have been referring to the famous Serbian version of 1244.
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My point was that UNSC Resolution 1244 says nowhere that “Kosovo is Serbia” or “Kosovo is Yugoslavia” and that Zoran must have been referring to the famous Serbian version of 1244.
(icj1, 20 February 2012 17:24)
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It also doesn't say that Vojvodina or Sandzak are part of Serbia as well but then it's all implied isn't it?
Why does an agreement have to specify all the provinces? If an agreement is reached which Serbia is a part of then the whole of Serbia is a part of that agreement.
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The funny thing is, Paccoli got the recognition note from the Ugandan Foreign Minister Sam Kutesa.
Jeremic is now claiming that Uganda didn't recognise because the Ugandan Foreign Minister's Assistant/ coffee maker Henry Oryem Okello apparently said so.
Who would you rather believe? The Ugandan FM or his assistant/ coffee maker?
Whats next in make believe land? Russia didn't recognise Abkhazia?
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Icj1 - please can we put this argument about 1244 and the connection between Serbia and Yugoslavia to bed. In the ICJ case on Kosovo's independence, only one country, the US, tried to make this point (much to the amazement of many observers who thought that there is no way it would have made such a lazy argument). In doing so, it was actually insulting the Court. In the case concerning Serbia and genocide in Bosnia, the Court had already decided that Serbia is now what was then Yugoslavia. The fact that the name had changed did not mean that it could claim that it was not responsible. It is ironic that you call yourself ICJ, and yet seem wholly unaware of this. No other country, not Britain, not France, made this point before the ICJ when they defended Kosovo's independence. If it is so powerful an argument, why didn't every state just make this point, and why didn't the Court simply agree?
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It refers to Pacolli as "Prime Minister, Government of Kosovo" - not the "Government of the Republic of Kosovo".
And then it goes on to say "we are behind other nations that have recognised the Republic of Kosovo". They are not with, but behind nations that have recognised ....
So where exactly in that text does it recognise the "Republic of Kosovo"? The fact is, it doesn't.
(Zoran, 19 February 2012 19:32)
You should go over once again to tell us where is written PM Pacolli.
It says : Former President of Kosova, and under that is addressed to; First Deputy PM of Government of Kosova.
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But Kosovo knows already that, at least, 109 countries consider Kosovo a country because they said so during the WB and IMF vote. So what’s the point of the UN vote ?!
(icj1, 20 February 2012 17:46)
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LOL! You sure do have some imagination, which is very typical of Albanians. The IMF and WB are not places where countries are legitimised. Now that is done at the UN, which is where it counts and where you lack numbers. The fact is, "Kosova" will never be legitimised.
But hey, you can still go ahead and spin whatever rubbish you like and attempt to prove something that just isn't true. I'll give you one thing though, you are a very determined spinster even though what you say is complete rubbish.
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My point was that UNSC Resolution 1244 says nowhere that “Kosovo is Serbia” or “Kosovo is Yugoslavia” and that Zoran must have been referring to the famous Serbian version of 1244.
(icj1, 20 February 2012 17:24)
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It wasn't me who said that. It was CG and you were replying to him. Please try and be accurate at least once in your life. Don't you get dizzy with all the spinning that you do?
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This is the MOST childish politican I ever seen.And he wants to run for Un office.Dude, I will not hire him even for New York taxi driver.Remember when he was withdrawing ambassadors and then reinsteting...that,s was a humiliatin,when he wanted a opinion from ICJ abour Kosovo independace and he got it...again humiliation,when he is telling that this or that country dident recognize Kosovo independence and he was prouven wrong,another humilation...what next?
Oh well,he gets payed for this,so who cares...way to go Vuk.
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@ (Pls say it ain't so !!! ) daemons. really
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Here is the link that you can see it clearly. even clear enough for Jeremic! http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151316751270153&set=a.320390645152.341768.307617160152&type=1&theater
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It also doesn't say that Vojvodina or Sandzak are part of Serbia as well but then it's all implied isn't it? Why does an agreement have to specify all the provinces? If an agreement is reached which Serbia is a part of then the whole of Serbia is a part of that agreement.
(Peggy, 21 February 2012 02:37)
Yes, and then what does have that to do with anything that I was stating :) Still 1244 says nowhere that Kosovo is Serbia/Yugoslavia/or the promissed land LOL
Or are you saying Kosovo is part of Zimbabwe because it also doesn't say that Vojvodina or Sandzak are part of Zimbabwe as well but then it's all implied isn't it?!
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Newsflash for Jeremic: http://koha.net/?page=1,13,88547
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Serbian Foreign Minister Vuk Jeremic said the sky is green. Even though he's the only person who said it, to be fair, we have to include it and consider the matter disputed.' Is that where we're going?
Jeremiç tomorrow: "Republic of Albnia, USA and Gremany never recognize Kosovo". He is so fanny! :) LOL JEREMIÇ
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@Silva
the same old story alvaninas lie and cry nothing new here ,the bigger countries cant get paid out that easy and another thing if you dont have
brazil,russia,china,india and other massive nations then you will never see a independant province ever and to you serbians hello from brazil i am a serb supporter like all in brazil.
(silva, 19 February 2012 19:35)
@Silva
Do you actually think that we care what you and your Brazilian peeps think about Kosova? Well take a wild guess, nooooooooo……
I have many friends from your necks of the woods that sympathize with Albanians 100%, but you must have your own reasons for having a skewed mind.
You probably think that Ronaldo was better then Messi…LOL don’t you?!
As far as your desperate BRIC countries are concerned, we really do not give two craps about you. US bombed the sh.. out of Serbia while ‘R’ from the BRIC was keeping quiet, US bombed the ‘C’ (of the BRIC) embassy in Belgrade while ‘C’ kept quiet. You as a 'B' of the BRIC were never consulted for anything, and the ‘I’ would not dare and say a word as their livelihood depends on the US of A. So you do the math, that’s if you can add 2+2.
We have the rulers of the world in our side and that’s what counts, that’s why we are an independent nation and loving every second of it. You’re better off going to your beaches and enjoy all the nice looking Brazilian women, as oppose to making naïve comments like this. Actually I plan to fly down there in April myself.
Yes I did, I did say it!!!
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Or are you saying Kosovo is part of Zimbabwe because it also doesn't say that Vojvodina or Sandzak are part of Zimbabwe as well but then it's all implied isn't it?!
(icj1, 23 February 2012 04:55)
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Why do you insist on embarrassing yourself?
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