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Wednesday, 15.02.2012.

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"Next government might turn to Russia"

Interior Minister Ivica Dačić told a Belgrade daily that "Europe would make a big mistake" if Serbia were not made candidate for EU membership next month.

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Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

"Milosevic wanted good relations with all, US, EU, Russia, China.. Not favoring either one.. "
(zman, 17 February 2012 15:36)

The mess Milosevic created could have been avoided if he wanted good relations between all ethnic groups WITHIN YU, and not favoring either one.

Thomas Mokanian

pre 12 godina

You Albanians think that the US are great friends??? They're using you like everyone else...
They backed and trained Bin Laden and looked at what happened to him!!!
Thaci will experience that same 'friendship'.
Serbs took back what was theirs once and will do so again.
(PJ, 16 February 2012 08:39)

Another hysterical Serb confusing frogs with grandmothers.

zman

pre 12 godina

Reborto do you even know what Milosevic's actually policy were or do you know only what the NATO propaganda mechanism wants you to know??

Milosevic wanted good relations with all, US, EU, Russia, China.. Not favoring either one..

A lot of people in Serbia didn't like him but not for the reasons the NATO propaganda machine says so but despite that he still won mutliple elections..

Peggy

pre 12 godina

Why are we still being held hostage to milosevic policies and milosevic boosters? something is surely rotten in the state of...

roberto frisco
(roberto, 16 February 2012 02:01)
============================
Nobody is holding you hostage to anything Roberto. Please explain what you mean by we.
Can't wait for this DS government to be tossed out like yesterday's rubbish and a pro Russian government (the one that actually represents people) get in.

PJ

pre 12 godina

You Albanians think that the US are great friends??? They're using you like everyone else...
They backed and trained Bin Laden and looked at what happened to him!!!
Thaci will experience that same 'friendship'.
Serbs took back what was theirs once and will do so again.

Rocky

pre 12 godina

"Next government might turn to Russia"?!?!?!?!?
--??
Some people change their minds more often than they change their socks.
One step forward, ten steps back.

roberto

pre 12 godina

Why are we still being held hostage to milosevic policies and milosevic boosters? something is surely rotten in the state of...

roberto frisco

sj

pre 12 godina

I see that Serbs need hard facts to decide for their future. They can test Russia before they get their final path to EU. No panic, after Serbs test the Russian path, they will have no dilemma for EU path.
(dori tirana, 16 February 2012 00:17)

Considering that Russia will supply 40% + of all Europe’s energy needs by 2014 I’d hazard a guess and say that it just may have some modicum of influence in places like Brussels. Your great windbag of an ally, the US, is extremely busy sending itself BROKE.

Why even China now has to rescue the EU by giving it loans. This is the 21 century not the 1950s. We live in an age where all the finances have moved to Asia and are no longer in western hands.

dori tirana

pre 12 godina

I see that Serbs need hard facts to decide for their future. They can test Russia before they get their final path to EU. No panic, after Serbs test the Russian path, they will have no dilemma for EU path.

Berk.

pre 12 godina

Good news, just go ahead. Nobody held you back in the past, and nobody will in the future. Save us all the hassel to deal with you in the EU membership progress.

Ciao!

dd

pre 12 godina

USRANI from Kosovo:

THIS COMMENT IS OUT OF SPACE - EVEN CNN CAN DO BETTER - MATH than you -you FAILED.

Numbers should be :
(USA United States of Albania, 15 February 2012 16:16)

with a combination of courage(-30%), honor(-30), guts(-30), glory(-10), guns(-3), diplomacy/CRY HARD(9%) and great allies(194%)!

sj

pre 12 godina

Correction, Albanians didn't "threaten with terrorism" they took Serbia head on in a full scale war and pushed the "Great" and "valiant" Serbian military BACK over the border with a combination of courage, honor, guts, glory, guns, diplomacy and great allies! As Donald Trump would say....YOU'RE FIRED! LOL
(USA United States of Albania, 15 February 2012 16:16)


Wow. I have reads revisionist history but you Americans are really something, but considering that Bill Clinton said a few years back at a function in Sydney Australia that the US won the Vietnam war I should not be surprised to read your rubbish. You watch too much TV, its not good for you as you seem to mix reality and fantasy.

The KLA were on your beloved US of A terrorist list and you people could not take head on an inebriated grandmother.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 12 godina

aaayy

You are far too generous. I would have awarded a .50 % for each of those catergories resulting in a 97% for the great allies.

You must be a better man than me! They tell me that I have the compassion of a rock; damn them Serbian genes...

zman

pre 12 godina

think about it

yeah THE IMF and their mandated policies as well the corrupt politicans in Belgrade who implemented them are THE MAIN reason Serbian economy is screwed up.. That's just the truth.. If you dont like that's your problem.

enh

pre 12 godina

so lucky russia,west spend billion of dollars, to impruve the new world orders,to finish with russia one for ever,and from nowhere east on a advantage position,near center of europe,near the places who makes the desision,in my opinion second away.oh my god,russian its coming back

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

..and Albanians threaten with terrorism if they don't get what they want. ...and the threat works unfortunately...
(aaayyy, 15 February 2012 14:38)

Correction, Albanians didn't "threaten with terrorism" they took Serbia head on in a full scale war and pushed the "Great" and "valiant" Serbian military BACK over the border with a combination of courage, honor, guts, glory, guns, diplomacy and great allies! As Donald Trump would say....YOU'RE FIRED! LOL
(USA United States of Albania, 15 February 2012 16:16)

Let's correct it a little bit:
with a combination of courage(1%), honor(1%), guts(1%), glory(1%), guns(1%), diplomacy(1%) and great allies(94%)!

USA United States of Albania

pre 12 godina

..and Albanians threaten with terrorism if they don't get what they want. ...and the threat works unfortunately...
(aaayyy, 15 February 2012 14:38)

Correction, Albanians didn't "threaten with terrorism" they took Serbia head on in a full scale war and pushed the "Great" and "valiant" Serbian military BACK over the border with a combination of courage, honor, guts, glory, guns, diplomacy and great allies! As Donald Trump would say....YOU'RE FIRED! LOL

zman

pre 12 godina

Avni.. Let me ask you something..

Do you enjoy living under a drugg running, human organ trafficking terrorist organization like the KLA in Kosovo?? You like living in extreme povery down there?? It's worse than anytime during Yugoslacian/Milosevic era.. So you enjoy widespread corruption, misery and poverty?? Really?? ahahah

although I doubt you live in Kosovo..

Bill

pre 12 godina

how redicules. Does that bimbo really think that he can blackmail the West. But this is the man who also talked about war in the past, and that says it all. I think after a statements like that, the EU actually should say, sorry Serbia, do what you want, but we do not want you to be part of our union any more. If you think you can play such dirty games, go and try to find happiness somewhere else. Bye-bye Serbia ... nobody will shed a tear about you ...

nik

pre 12 godina

The next government may turn to Russia? And so what? There will be no war between the EU and Russia so that Serbia could keep some precious divisions away from the Eastern! Serbia certainly stands to lose a lot if it loses its EU orientation: its visa free access, and certain funds, the main traffic will bypass Serbia etc. What is the EU going to lose? Nothing! Indeed many curse the South Eastern enlargement! Greece is bankrupt, Bulgaria and Romania seem corrupt. But those three provide the EU with what it needs from strategic point to view. Would Russian orientated Serbia cause any harm to the EU? Hardly! So from Western point of view if Russia could be propitiated by acquiring a sphere of influence in Serbia, many in the West think this is a good idea! Europe is weary of enlargement. Serbia could bet only on the decreasing inertia of opening of the doors to the South East. To many who look forwards to reorientation I could say only this. Be careful what you wish for. It may come true.

think about it

pre 12 godina

Now as far as Russia goes, any decent, sane Serbian president would do anything to preserve relations with Russia, it's an ally but nothing should be done to undermine relations with Germany and other European powers.

Getting the economy going and improving the standard of living is the number one issue.. All this other stuff about Kosovo, EU and Russia is just cheap politics but of course the current ruling regime is not interesting in talking about real issues because they know they CAN'T win.
(zman, 15 February 2012 14:39
I would say someone is too naive when people speak and cannot see the forest for the trees.
You say the IMF is the reason Serbia is broke, easy fix none of that money is forced on Serbia. Instead Serbia can count on its partners Russia and China for support. Russia will fork over money at the rate of 20 cents to the dollar in exchange for controlling interest in SErbian assets, and China will loan money to Serbia to pay Chinese companies to do work in Serbia. In other words China hands the money to Chinese and then SErbia makes payments to China.
why waste time with the EU, China and Russia will take care of you.

Adrian Gashi

pre 12 godina

Serbia will turn to Russia? Who stopped you from turning until now?
When Kosova declared independence, did you not say that you'll break relations with every country that recognizes it? Well, the absolute majority of EU has recognized Kosova, and you still want to get in. Why is that?

Dragan

pre 12 godina

DEAN the Great(Yes the Great)Berat,ALBANIA.
(Dean, 15 February 2012 12:25)

Hey Borat, for your information, there is no more insignificant country in Europe than Albania - unless you're looking for organs or heroin on the black market.

winston

pre 12 godina

Ben, you have a lot of nerve talking about non-refundable aid to a nation, when your Albanian black holes of Kosovo and Albania would not last a day without EU/US gifts. Go and comment on your Albanian issues, and let the Serbs care for their own business. You are a Serb hater, so your comments mean zero here. BTW, Serbia will never recognize an independent Albanian state in Kosovo, headed by former KLA organ-harvestors, and murderers. Ask Thaci what he did with the bodies of the poor victims his KLA'ers ripped kidneys from. You should more interested in that, than Serbia's internal affairs.

ben

pre 12 godina

bon voyage!!!

it's been 20 years now that Serbia threatens that if they don't get what they want even that they don't deserve it they will become bad and "turn to Russia".

Why untill now you have been democratic and had not the Russian blessing and 100% backing???

we are all so "courious" to see how will this "new" Serbia tied to Russia look like :) something we have not seen yet.. ye sure :)

The non refundable aids Serbia had in the last 10 years from EU, US and individual EU countries go up to 6bn€. Serbia would have been bankrupt 2 years ago had not been for the IMF and the “evil” America that controls IMF to give you the necessary loans. EU each year covers your budget deficit with hundreds of millions of Euros. While you still risk the Greek scenario. And you still dear to threat and bluf??? What a stomach your politicians have.

Good! Forget the EU/US money and all the best with Russia. Pathetic people!

PapaJohn

pre 12 godina

Ben, America and the IMF loan money to Serbia to control it, not to help it - just like the Germans are attempting to do in Greece now. Stop looking at world politics through a pipe. There is a lot more to it than what is on the surface. America, and world monetary organizations, do nothing for anyone without wanting something in return. You cannot be that stupid to think otherwise. This includes your beloved Albanian inhabited territories.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

it's been 20 years now that Serbia threatens that if they don't get what they want even that they don't deserve it they will become bad and "turn to Russia".
(ben)

...and Albanians threaten with terrorism if they don't get what they want. ...and the threat works unfortunately...

zman

pre 12 godina

BEN...

You are clueless beyond all reason.. Serbia is bankrupt exactly because of IMF loans.. That's what the IMF is all about.. About getting country into debt.. The IMF does NOT give out loans for any other reason other than to pay of other old loans.. It's about enslaving a country and conrolling its monetary system.. The IMF loan is about maintaining the status quo and propping up the current puppet goverment.. Any new president with any decency would right away default on all that debt and start over..

Now as far as what this politician is saying, it's not relevant.. he's trying to blackmail EU officials to get Serbia into EU because the EU/US is desperataly trying to destroy Russia's strongest ally in the balkans and maybe all of Europe.. What do you think the bombings were all about partially?? Why do you think Belgrade has been bombed so often throughout history?? Strategically it's one of the most important regions in the world..

Now as far as Russia goes, any decent, sane Serbian president would do anything to preserve relations with Russia, it's an ally but nothing should be done to undermine relations with Germany and other European powers.

Getting the economy going and improving the standard of living is the number one issue.. All this other stuff about Kosovo, EU and Russia is just cheap politics but of course the current ruling regime is not interesting in talking about real issues because they know they CAN'T win.

winston

pre 12 godina

What are you great at, Dean? Making silly comments on B92? Or are you saying that Albania is great, which is even sillier. In any case, you dependent children in Albania and Kosovo should mind your own business when it comes to Serbian politics, because without the West supporting your black holes with gift money, you would all be back on donkeys again, and not behaving so arrogantly, and thinking that you actually have a voice. Happy Serbian State Day.

EU or EU

pre 12 godina

EU not RF.
(Dardan, 15 February 2012 12:55)

http://rt.com/politics/eu-eurasian-union-panarin-841/

EU for EU not RF.
There are options with a better future. What leverage then.

Luigi

pre 12 godina

Maybe some years ago this would have been taken by Eu as a serious political development..now in this German -oriented enviroment nobody cares...Germany is ready to give up Greece quickly and all the south in the next years so the Balkans are for them Terra ignota et periculosa....

Dean

pre 12 godina

"Next government might turn to Russia"?!?!?!?!?

So let be it.Who cares???As ALBANIAN i am more then happy 2 see Serbia far from Europe.That simple.
DEAN the Great(Yes the Great)Berat,ALBANIA.

Dardan

pre 12 godina

To all of you silly little boys (I mean this affectionately) who are happy to see Serbia turn to Russia, you shouldn't be.

It is hard enough to deal with a Serbia that at least is making some efforts (feeble though they may be) to appear European and adopt Europen standards.

Imagine what it will be like when they stop trying.

Despite everything and perhaps for very different reasons it is in the interest of all involved for Serbia to ultimately join EU not RF.

Shpetim

pre 12 godina

""Europe would make a big mistake" if Serbia were not made candidate for EU membership next month.""

Ha, issuing threats, brilliant. Its not down to the EU to give candidate status, its down to Serbia to earn it.

winston

pre 12 godina

Ben, you have a lot of nerve talking about non-refundable aid to a nation, when your Albanian black holes of Kosovo and Albania would not last a day without EU/US gifts. Go and comment on your Albanian issues, and let the Serbs care for their own business. You are a Serb hater, so your comments mean zero here. BTW, Serbia will never recognize an independent Albanian state in Kosovo, headed by former KLA organ-harvestors, and murderers. Ask Thaci what he did with the bodies of the poor victims his KLA'ers ripped kidneys from. You should more interested in that, than Serbia's internal affairs.

Shpetim

pre 12 godina

""Europe would make a big mistake" if Serbia were not made candidate for EU membership next month.""

Ha, issuing threats, brilliant. Its not down to the EU to give candidate status, its down to Serbia to earn it.

winston

pre 12 godina

What are you great at, Dean? Making silly comments on B92? Or are you saying that Albania is great, which is even sillier. In any case, you dependent children in Albania and Kosovo should mind your own business when it comes to Serbian politics, because without the West supporting your black holes with gift money, you would all be back on donkeys again, and not behaving so arrogantly, and thinking that you actually have a voice. Happy Serbian State Day.

Dean

pre 12 godina

"Next government might turn to Russia"?!?!?!?!?

So let be it.Who cares???As ALBANIAN i am more then happy 2 see Serbia far from Europe.That simple.
DEAN the Great(Yes the Great)Berat,ALBANIA.

Dardan

pre 12 godina

To all of you silly little boys (I mean this affectionately) who are happy to see Serbia turn to Russia, you shouldn't be.

It is hard enough to deal with a Serbia that at least is making some efforts (feeble though they may be) to appear European and adopt Europen standards.

Imagine what it will be like when they stop trying.

Despite everything and perhaps for very different reasons it is in the interest of all involved for Serbia to ultimately join EU not RF.

Dragan

pre 12 godina

DEAN the Great(Yes the Great)Berat,ALBANIA.
(Dean, 15 February 2012 12:25)

Hey Borat, for your information, there is no more insignificant country in Europe than Albania - unless you're looking for organs or heroin on the black market.

ben

pre 12 godina

bon voyage!!!

it's been 20 years now that Serbia threatens that if they don't get what they want even that they don't deserve it they will become bad and "turn to Russia".

Why untill now you have been democratic and had not the Russian blessing and 100% backing???

we are all so "courious" to see how will this "new" Serbia tied to Russia look like :) something we have not seen yet.. ye sure :)

The non refundable aids Serbia had in the last 10 years from EU, US and individual EU countries go up to 6bn€. Serbia would have been bankrupt 2 years ago had not been for the IMF and the “evil” America that controls IMF to give you the necessary loans. EU each year covers your budget deficit with hundreds of millions of Euros. While you still risk the Greek scenario. And you still dear to threat and bluf??? What a stomach your politicians have.

Good! Forget the EU/US money and all the best with Russia. Pathetic people!

PapaJohn

pre 12 godina

Ben, America and the IMF loan money to Serbia to control it, not to help it - just like the Germans are attempting to do in Greece now. Stop looking at world politics through a pipe. There is a lot more to it than what is on the surface. America, and world monetary organizations, do nothing for anyone without wanting something in return. You cannot be that stupid to think otherwise. This includes your beloved Albanian inhabited territories.

zman

pre 12 godina

Avni.. Let me ask you something..

Do you enjoy living under a drugg running, human organ trafficking terrorist organization like the KLA in Kosovo?? You like living in extreme povery down there?? It's worse than anytime during Yugoslacian/Milosevic era.. So you enjoy widespread corruption, misery and poverty?? Really?? ahahah

although I doubt you live in Kosovo..

dd

pre 12 godina

USRANI from Kosovo:

THIS COMMENT IS OUT OF SPACE - EVEN CNN CAN DO BETTER - MATH than you -you FAILED.

Numbers should be :
(USA United States of Albania, 15 February 2012 16:16)

with a combination of courage(-30%), honor(-30), guts(-30), glory(-10), guns(-3), diplomacy/CRY HARD(9%) and great allies(194%)!

zman

pre 12 godina

BEN...

You are clueless beyond all reason.. Serbia is bankrupt exactly because of IMF loans.. That's what the IMF is all about.. About getting country into debt.. The IMF does NOT give out loans for any other reason other than to pay of other old loans.. It's about enslaving a country and conrolling its monetary system.. The IMF loan is about maintaining the status quo and propping up the current puppet goverment.. Any new president with any decency would right away default on all that debt and start over..

Now as far as what this politician is saying, it's not relevant.. he's trying to blackmail EU officials to get Serbia into EU because the EU/US is desperataly trying to destroy Russia's strongest ally in the balkans and maybe all of Europe.. What do you think the bombings were all about partially?? Why do you think Belgrade has been bombed so often throughout history?? Strategically it's one of the most important regions in the world..

Now as far as Russia goes, any decent, sane Serbian president would do anything to preserve relations with Russia, it's an ally but nothing should be done to undermine relations with Germany and other European powers.

Getting the economy going and improving the standard of living is the number one issue.. All this other stuff about Kosovo, EU and Russia is just cheap politics but of course the current ruling regime is not interesting in talking about real issues because they know they CAN'T win.

Adrian Gashi

pre 12 godina

Serbia will turn to Russia? Who stopped you from turning until now?
When Kosova declared independence, did you not say that you'll break relations with every country that recognizes it? Well, the absolute majority of EU has recognized Kosova, and you still want to get in. Why is that?

Another Canadian Serb

pre 12 godina

aaayy

You are far too generous. I would have awarded a .50 % for each of those catergories resulting in a 97% for the great allies.

You must be a better man than me! They tell me that I have the compassion of a rock; damn them Serbian genes...

Bill

pre 12 godina

how redicules. Does that bimbo really think that he can blackmail the West. But this is the man who also talked about war in the past, and that says it all. I think after a statements like that, the EU actually should say, sorry Serbia, do what you want, but we do not want you to be part of our union any more. If you think you can play such dirty games, go and try to find happiness somewhere else. Bye-bye Serbia ... nobody will shed a tear about you ...

sj

pre 12 godina

Correction, Albanians didn't "threaten with terrorism" they took Serbia head on in a full scale war and pushed the "Great" and "valiant" Serbian military BACK over the border with a combination of courage, honor, guts, glory, guns, diplomacy and great allies! As Donald Trump would say....YOU'RE FIRED! LOL
(USA United States of Albania, 15 February 2012 16:16)


Wow. I have reads revisionist history but you Americans are really something, but considering that Bill Clinton said a few years back at a function in Sydney Australia that the US won the Vietnam war I should not be surprised to read your rubbish. You watch too much TV, its not good for you as you seem to mix reality and fantasy.

The KLA were on your beloved US of A terrorist list and you people could not take head on an inebriated grandmother.

EU or EU

pre 12 godina

EU not RF.
(Dardan, 15 February 2012 12:55)

http://rt.com/politics/eu-eurasian-union-panarin-841/

EU for EU not RF.
There are options with a better future. What leverage then.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

it's been 20 years now that Serbia threatens that if they don't get what they want even that they don't deserve it they will become bad and "turn to Russia".
(ben)

...and Albanians threaten with terrorism if they don't get what they want. ...and the threat works unfortunately...

nik

pre 12 godina

The next government may turn to Russia? And so what? There will be no war between the EU and Russia so that Serbia could keep some precious divisions away from the Eastern! Serbia certainly stands to lose a lot if it loses its EU orientation: its visa free access, and certain funds, the main traffic will bypass Serbia etc. What is the EU going to lose? Nothing! Indeed many curse the South Eastern enlargement! Greece is bankrupt, Bulgaria and Romania seem corrupt. But those three provide the EU with what it needs from strategic point to view. Would Russian orientated Serbia cause any harm to the EU? Hardly! So from Western point of view if Russia could be propitiated by acquiring a sphere of influence in Serbia, many in the West think this is a good idea! Europe is weary of enlargement. Serbia could bet only on the decreasing inertia of opening of the doors to the South East. To many who look forwards to reorientation I could say only this. Be careful what you wish for. It may come true.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

..and Albanians threaten with terrorism if they don't get what they want. ...and the threat works unfortunately...
(aaayyy, 15 February 2012 14:38)

Correction, Albanians didn't "threaten with terrorism" they took Serbia head on in a full scale war and pushed the "Great" and "valiant" Serbian military BACK over the border with a combination of courage, honor, guts, glory, guns, diplomacy and great allies! As Donald Trump would say....YOU'RE FIRED! LOL
(USA United States of Albania, 15 February 2012 16:16)

Let's correct it a little bit:
with a combination of courage(1%), honor(1%), guts(1%), glory(1%), guns(1%), diplomacy(1%) and great allies(94%)!

Luigi

pre 12 godina

Maybe some years ago this would have been taken by Eu as a serious political development..now in this German -oriented enviroment nobody cares...Germany is ready to give up Greece quickly and all the south in the next years so the Balkans are for them Terra ignota et periculosa....

Berk.

pre 12 godina

Good news, just go ahead. Nobody held you back in the past, and nobody will in the future. Save us all the hassel to deal with you in the EU membership progress.

Ciao!

dori tirana

pre 12 godina

I see that Serbs need hard facts to decide for their future. They can test Russia before they get their final path to EU. No panic, after Serbs test the Russian path, they will have no dilemma for EU path.

USA United States of Albania

pre 12 godina

..and Albanians threaten with terrorism if they don't get what they want. ...and the threat works unfortunately...
(aaayyy, 15 February 2012 14:38)

Correction, Albanians didn't "threaten with terrorism" they took Serbia head on in a full scale war and pushed the "Great" and "valiant" Serbian military BACK over the border with a combination of courage, honor, guts, glory, guns, diplomacy and great allies! As Donald Trump would say....YOU'RE FIRED! LOL

roberto

pre 12 godina

Why are we still being held hostage to milosevic policies and milosevic boosters? something is surely rotten in the state of...

roberto frisco

PJ

pre 12 godina

You Albanians think that the US are great friends??? They're using you like everyone else...
They backed and trained Bin Laden and looked at what happened to him!!!
Thaci will experience that same 'friendship'.
Serbs took back what was theirs once and will do so again.

Rocky

pre 12 godina

"Next government might turn to Russia"?!?!?!?!?
--??
Some people change their minds more often than they change their socks.
One step forward, ten steps back.

zman

pre 12 godina

think about it

yeah THE IMF and their mandated policies as well the corrupt politicans in Belgrade who implemented them are THE MAIN reason Serbian economy is screwed up.. That's just the truth.. If you dont like that's your problem.

think about it

pre 12 godina

Now as far as Russia goes, any decent, sane Serbian president would do anything to preserve relations with Russia, it's an ally but nothing should be done to undermine relations with Germany and other European powers.

Getting the economy going and improving the standard of living is the number one issue.. All this other stuff about Kosovo, EU and Russia is just cheap politics but of course the current ruling regime is not interesting in talking about real issues because they know they CAN'T win.
(zman, 15 February 2012 14:39
I would say someone is too naive when people speak and cannot see the forest for the trees.
You say the IMF is the reason Serbia is broke, easy fix none of that money is forced on Serbia. Instead Serbia can count on its partners Russia and China for support. Russia will fork over money at the rate of 20 cents to the dollar in exchange for controlling interest in SErbian assets, and China will loan money to Serbia to pay Chinese companies to do work in Serbia. In other words China hands the money to Chinese and then SErbia makes payments to China.
why waste time with the EU, China and Russia will take care of you.

sj

pre 12 godina

I see that Serbs need hard facts to decide for their future. They can test Russia before they get their final path to EU. No panic, after Serbs test the Russian path, they will have no dilemma for EU path.
(dori tirana, 16 February 2012 00:17)

Considering that Russia will supply 40% + of all Europe’s energy needs by 2014 I’d hazard a guess and say that it just may have some modicum of influence in places like Brussels. Your great windbag of an ally, the US, is extremely busy sending itself BROKE.

Why even China now has to rescue the EU by giving it loans. This is the 21 century not the 1950s. We live in an age where all the finances have moved to Asia and are no longer in western hands.

zman

pre 12 godina

Reborto do you even know what Milosevic's actually policy were or do you know only what the NATO propaganda mechanism wants you to know??

Milosevic wanted good relations with all, US, EU, Russia, China.. Not favoring either one..

A lot of people in Serbia didn't like him but not for the reasons the NATO propaganda machine says so but despite that he still won mutliple elections..

Peggy

pre 12 godina

Why are we still being held hostage to milosevic policies and milosevic boosters? something is surely rotten in the state of...

roberto frisco
(roberto, 16 February 2012 02:01)
============================
Nobody is holding you hostage to anything Roberto. Please explain what you mean by we.
Can't wait for this DS government to be tossed out like yesterday's rubbish and a pro Russian government (the one that actually represents people) get in.

enh

pre 12 godina

so lucky russia,west spend billion of dollars, to impruve the new world orders,to finish with russia one for ever,and from nowhere east on a advantage position,near center of europe,near the places who makes the desision,in my opinion second away.oh my god,russian its coming back

Thomas Mokanian

pre 12 godina

You Albanians think that the US are great friends??? They're using you like everyone else...
They backed and trained Bin Laden and looked at what happened to him!!!
Thaci will experience that same 'friendship'.
Serbs took back what was theirs once and will do so again.
(PJ, 16 February 2012 08:39)

Another hysterical Serb confusing frogs with grandmothers.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

"Milosevic wanted good relations with all, US, EU, Russia, China.. Not favoring either one.. "
(zman, 17 February 2012 15:36)

The mess Milosevic created could have been avoided if he wanted good relations between all ethnic groups WITHIN YU, and not favoring either one.

Shpetim

pre 12 godina

""Europe would make a big mistake" if Serbia were not made candidate for EU membership next month.""

Ha, issuing threats, brilliant. Its not down to the EU to give candidate status, its down to Serbia to earn it.

Dean

pre 12 godina

"Next government might turn to Russia"?!?!?!?!?

So let be it.Who cares???As ALBANIAN i am more then happy 2 see Serbia far from Europe.That simple.
DEAN the Great(Yes the Great)Berat,ALBANIA.

ben

pre 12 godina

bon voyage!!!

it's been 20 years now that Serbia threatens that if they don't get what they want even that they don't deserve it they will become bad and "turn to Russia".

Why untill now you have been democratic and had not the Russian blessing and 100% backing???

we are all so "courious" to see how will this "new" Serbia tied to Russia look like :) something we have not seen yet.. ye sure :)

The non refundable aids Serbia had in the last 10 years from EU, US and individual EU countries go up to 6bn€. Serbia would have been bankrupt 2 years ago had not been for the IMF and the “evil” America that controls IMF to give you the necessary loans. EU each year covers your budget deficit with hundreds of millions of Euros. While you still risk the Greek scenario. And you still dear to threat and bluf??? What a stomach your politicians have.

Good! Forget the EU/US money and all the best with Russia. Pathetic people!

winston

pre 12 godina

What are you great at, Dean? Making silly comments on B92? Or are you saying that Albania is great, which is even sillier. In any case, you dependent children in Albania and Kosovo should mind your own business when it comes to Serbian politics, because without the West supporting your black holes with gift money, you would all be back on donkeys again, and not behaving so arrogantly, and thinking that you actually have a voice. Happy Serbian State Day.

Dardan

pre 12 godina

To all of you silly little boys (I mean this affectionately) who are happy to see Serbia turn to Russia, you shouldn't be.

It is hard enough to deal with a Serbia that at least is making some efforts (feeble though they may be) to appear European and adopt Europen standards.

Imagine what it will be like when they stop trying.

Despite everything and perhaps for very different reasons it is in the interest of all involved for Serbia to ultimately join EU not RF.

USA United States of Albania

pre 12 godina

..and Albanians threaten with terrorism if they don't get what they want. ...and the threat works unfortunately...
(aaayyy, 15 February 2012 14:38)

Correction, Albanians didn't "threaten with terrorism" they took Serbia head on in a full scale war and pushed the "Great" and "valiant" Serbian military BACK over the border with a combination of courage, honor, guts, glory, guns, diplomacy and great allies! As Donald Trump would say....YOU'RE FIRED! LOL

winston

pre 12 godina

Ben, you have a lot of nerve talking about non-refundable aid to a nation, when your Albanian black holes of Kosovo and Albania would not last a day without EU/US gifts. Go and comment on your Albanian issues, and let the Serbs care for their own business. You are a Serb hater, so your comments mean zero here. BTW, Serbia will never recognize an independent Albanian state in Kosovo, headed by former KLA organ-harvestors, and murderers. Ask Thaci what he did with the bodies of the poor victims his KLA'ers ripped kidneys from. You should more interested in that, than Serbia's internal affairs.

zman

pre 12 godina

Avni.. Let me ask you something..

Do you enjoy living under a drugg running, human organ trafficking terrorist organization like the KLA in Kosovo?? You like living in extreme povery down there?? It's worse than anytime during Yugoslacian/Milosevic era.. So you enjoy widespread corruption, misery and poverty?? Really?? ahahah

although I doubt you live in Kosovo..

nik

pre 12 godina

The next government may turn to Russia? And so what? There will be no war between the EU and Russia so that Serbia could keep some precious divisions away from the Eastern! Serbia certainly stands to lose a lot if it loses its EU orientation: its visa free access, and certain funds, the main traffic will bypass Serbia etc. What is the EU going to lose? Nothing! Indeed many curse the South Eastern enlargement! Greece is bankrupt, Bulgaria and Romania seem corrupt. But those three provide the EU with what it needs from strategic point to view. Would Russian orientated Serbia cause any harm to the EU? Hardly! So from Western point of view if Russia could be propitiated by acquiring a sphere of influence in Serbia, many in the West think this is a good idea! Europe is weary of enlargement. Serbia could bet only on the decreasing inertia of opening of the doors to the South East. To many who look forwards to reorientation I could say only this. Be careful what you wish for. It may come true.

Adrian Gashi

pre 12 godina

Serbia will turn to Russia? Who stopped you from turning until now?
When Kosova declared independence, did you not say that you'll break relations with every country that recognizes it? Well, the absolute majority of EU has recognized Kosova, and you still want to get in. Why is that?

Luigi

pre 12 godina

Maybe some years ago this would have been taken by Eu as a serious political development..now in this German -oriented enviroment nobody cares...Germany is ready to give up Greece quickly and all the south in the next years so the Balkans are for them Terra ignota et periculosa....

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

it's been 20 years now that Serbia threatens that if they don't get what they want even that they don't deserve it they will become bad and "turn to Russia".
(ben)

...and Albanians threaten with terrorism if they don't get what they want. ...and the threat works unfortunately...

Another Canadian Serb

pre 12 godina

aaayy

You are far too generous. I would have awarded a .50 % for each of those catergories resulting in a 97% for the great allies.

You must be a better man than me! They tell me that I have the compassion of a rock; damn them Serbian genes...

PapaJohn

pre 12 godina

Ben, America and the IMF loan money to Serbia to control it, not to help it - just like the Germans are attempting to do in Greece now. Stop looking at world politics through a pipe. There is a lot more to it than what is on the surface. America, and world monetary organizations, do nothing for anyone without wanting something in return. You cannot be that stupid to think otherwise. This includes your beloved Albanian inhabited territories.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

..and Albanians threaten with terrorism if they don't get what they want. ...and the threat works unfortunately...
(aaayyy, 15 February 2012 14:38)

Correction, Albanians didn't "threaten with terrorism" they took Serbia head on in a full scale war and pushed the "Great" and "valiant" Serbian military BACK over the border with a combination of courage, honor, guts, glory, guns, diplomacy and great allies! As Donald Trump would say....YOU'RE FIRED! LOL
(USA United States of Albania, 15 February 2012 16:16)

Let's correct it a little bit:
with a combination of courage(1%), honor(1%), guts(1%), glory(1%), guns(1%), diplomacy(1%) and great allies(94%)!

sj

pre 12 godina

Correction, Albanians didn't "threaten with terrorism" they took Serbia head on in a full scale war and pushed the "Great" and "valiant" Serbian military BACK over the border with a combination of courage, honor, guts, glory, guns, diplomacy and great allies! As Donald Trump would say....YOU'RE FIRED! LOL
(USA United States of Albania, 15 February 2012 16:16)


Wow. I have reads revisionist history but you Americans are really something, but considering that Bill Clinton said a few years back at a function in Sydney Australia that the US won the Vietnam war I should not be surprised to read your rubbish. You watch too much TV, its not good for you as you seem to mix reality and fantasy.

The KLA were on your beloved US of A terrorist list and you people could not take head on an inebriated grandmother.

Dragan

pre 12 godina

DEAN the Great(Yes the Great)Berat,ALBANIA.
(Dean, 15 February 2012 12:25)

Hey Borat, for your information, there is no more insignificant country in Europe than Albania - unless you're looking for organs or heroin on the black market.

Bill

pre 12 godina

how redicules. Does that bimbo really think that he can blackmail the West. But this is the man who also talked about war in the past, and that says it all. I think after a statements like that, the EU actually should say, sorry Serbia, do what you want, but we do not want you to be part of our union any more. If you think you can play such dirty games, go and try to find happiness somewhere else. Bye-bye Serbia ... nobody will shed a tear about you ...

zman

pre 12 godina

think about it

yeah THE IMF and their mandated policies as well the corrupt politicans in Belgrade who implemented them are THE MAIN reason Serbian economy is screwed up.. That's just the truth.. If you dont like that's your problem.

enh

pre 12 godina

so lucky russia,west spend billion of dollars, to impruve the new world orders,to finish with russia one for ever,and from nowhere east on a advantage position,near center of europe,near the places who makes the desision,in my opinion second away.oh my god,russian its coming back

PJ

pre 12 godina

You Albanians think that the US are great friends??? They're using you like everyone else...
They backed and trained Bin Laden and looked at what happened to him!!!
Thaci will experience that same 'friendship'.
Serbs took back what was theirs once and will do so again.

Berk.

pre 12 godina

Good news, just go ahead. Nobody held you back in the past, and nobody will in the future. Save us all the hassel to deal with you in the EU membership progress.

Ciao!

zman

pre 12 godina

BEN...

You are clueless beyond all reason.. Serbia is bankrupt exactly because of IMF loans.. That's what the IMF is all about.. About getting country into debt.. The IMF does NOT give out loans for any other reason other than to pay of other old loans.. It's about enslaving a country and conrolling its monetary system.. The IMF loan is about maintaining the status quo and propping up the current puppet goverment.. Any new president with any decency would right away default on all that debt and start over..

Now as far as what this politician is saying, it's not relevant.. he's trying to blackmail EU officials to get Serbia into EU because the EU/US is desperataly trying to destroy Russia's strongest ally in the balkans and maybe all of Europe.. What do you think the bombings were all about partially?? Why do you think Belgrade has been bombed so often throughout history?? Strategically it's one of the most important regions in the world..

Now as far as Russia goes, any decent, sane Serbian president would do anything to preserve relations with Russia, it's an ally but nothing should be done to undermine relations with Germany and other European powers.

Getting the economy going and improving the standard of living is the number one issue.. All this other stuff about Kosovo, EU and Russia is just cheap politics but of course the current ruling regime is not interesting in talking about real issues because they know they CAN'T win.

think about it

pre 12 godina

Now as far as Russia goes, any decent, sane Serbian president would do anything to preserve relations with Russia, it's an ally but nothing should be done to undermine relations with Germany and other European powers.

Getting the economy going and improving the standard of living is the number one issue.. All this other stuff about Kosovo, EU and Russia is just cheap politics but of course the current ruling regime is not interesting in talking about real issues because they know they CAN'T win.
(zman, 15 February 2012 14:39
I would say someone is too naive when people speak and cannot see the forest for the trees.
You say the IMF is the reason Serbia is broke, easy fix none of that money is forced on Serbia. Instead Serbia can count on its partners Russia and China for support. Russia will fork over money at the rate of 20 cents to the dollar in exchange for controlling interest in SErbian assets, and China will loan money to Serbia to pay Chinese companies to do work in Serbia. In other words China hands the money to Chinese and then SErbia makes payments to China.
why waste time with the EU, China and Russia will take care of you.

dori tirana

pre 12 godina

I see that Serbs need hard facts to decide for their future. They can test Russia before they get their final path to EU. No panic, after Serbs test the Russian path, they will have no dilemma for EU path.

sj

pre 12 godina

I see that Serbs need hard facts to decide for their future. They can test Russia before they get their final path to EU. No panic, after Serbs test the Russian path, they will have no dilemma for EU path.
(dori tirana, 16 February 2012 00:17)

Considering that Russia will supply 40% + of all Europe’s energy needs by 2014 I’d hazard a guess and say that it just may have some modicum of influence in places like Brussels. Your great windbag of an ally, the US, is extremely busy sending itself BROKE.

Why even China now has to rescue the EU by giving it loans. This is the 21 century not the 1950s. We live in an age where all the finances have moved to Asia and are no longer in western hands.

dd

pre 12 godina

USRANI from Kosovo:

THIS COMMENT IS OUT OF SPACE - EVEN CNN CAN DO BETTER - MATH than you -you FAILED.

Numbers should be :
(USA United States of Albania, 15 February 2012 16:16)

with a combination of courage(-30%), honor(-30), guts(-30), glory(-10), guns(-3), diplomacy/CRY HARD(9%) and great allies(194%)!

roberto

pre 12 godina

Why are we still being held hostage to milosevic policies and milosevic boosters? something is surely rotten in the state of...

roberto frisco

Rocky

pre 12 godina

"Next government might turn to Russia"?!?!?!?!?
--??
Some people change their minds more often than they change their socks.
One step forward, ten steps back.

zman

pre 12 godina

Reborto do you even know what Milosevic's actually policy were or do you know only what the NATO propaganda mechanism wants you to know??

Milosevic wanted good relations with all, US, EU, Russia, China.. Not favoring either one..

A lot of people in Serbia didn't like him but not for the reasons the NATO propaganda machine says so but despite that he still won mutliple elections..

Thomas Mokanian

pre 12 godina

You Albanians think that the US are great friends??? They're using you like everyone else...
They backed and trained Bin Laden and looked at what happened to him!!!
Thaci will experience that same 'friendship'.
Serbs took back what was theirs once and will do so again.
(PJ, 16 February 2012 08:39)

Another hysterical Serb confusing frogs with grandmothers.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

"Milosevic wanted good relations with all, US, EU, Russia, China.. Not favoring either one.. "
(zman, 17 February 2012 15:36)

The mess Milosevic created could have been avoided if he wanted good relations between all ethnic groups WITHIN YU, and not favoring either one.

EU or EU

pre 12 godina

EU not RF.
(Dardan, 15 February 2012 12:55)

http://rt.com/politics/eu-eurasian-union-panarin-841/

EU for EU not RF.
There are options with a better future. What leverage then.

Peggy

pre 12 godina

Why are we still being held hostage to milosevic policies and milosevic boosters? something is surely rotten in the state of...

roberto frisco
(roberto, 16 February 2012 02:01)
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Nobody is holding you hostage to anything Roberto. Please explain what you mean by we.
Can't wait for this DS government to be tossed out like yesterday's rubbish and a pro Russian government (the one that actually represents people) get in.