Tadić: Referendum is harmful for Serbia

Typo in the title. It reads "Tadić: Referendum is harmful for Serbia" when it should actually read "Tadić is harmful for Serbia"

No Boris, a referendum is only harmful to you!!!

Some relavent qutoes by Zoran Djindjic. Oh well I guess they DS can't apply these rules to themselves.

“The spirit of rebellion must live in Serbia. Only then will we know we are alive and not servants of a dictator.”

"Democracy is sometimes painful, but patience and tolerance, the will of the majority, are bound to win."

"We have torn off his mask in front of the world to show him as he really is -- a small-time Balkan dictator unable to bear the slightest defeat."

my how the mighty DS has fallen, my how men turn their backs on democracy when it inconveniences them

This is all smoke-screen... the masters of Serbian propaganda are in full swing here... again! We are not stupid Mr Tadic, this 'referendum' is organised, financed and promoted by saboteurs in Belgrade... the whole thing stinks to high heavens! Good luck with it!

“The basic difference between an ordinary man and a warrior is that a warrior takes everything as a challenge while an ordinary man takes everything as a blessing or a curse.”
― Carlos Castaneda

What Tadic really tried to say is that he and his cronies are actually harmful for Serbia and the Serbs and that the Serbs in the north of Kosovo are the ones who stand up for themselves and hopefully at the same time derail Tadic's dream to guide Serbia into the sinking, corrupt, almost bankrupt, and undemocratic EU, AKA "The Fourth Reich". The EU carrot is not going to save Tadic when election results will judge him harshly.

(the referendum can)...."only reduce the potentials of the state, and is not in the interests of Serbs in the province," Tadić said.
What a bunch of political nonsense! Tadic has never been a true leader that's willing to listen to the voice of the people.....so that's why he's saying, on behalf of his German masters, that expressing the will of the people is harmful to the state. Serbia deserves a true "democratic" party and leader- not the fake DS party who cares less about democracy, and more about what the EU and Germany demand.

How the referendum, in which Serbs detached from the state by invading NATO force, want to express their desire to stay citizens of the Republic of Serbia but not created by the occupiers pseudo-state can be harmful to Serbia??

So does this mean that Tadic is supposed to call the northern Serbs "terrorists"? I think so! With that said, Serbia should let ROSU go in there and perform a mop up operation;) Happy Valentines Day losers!

Fyou Tadic

If Kosovo isn't a part of Serbia, then how can the actions of Kosovo Serbs be harmful to Serbia?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmh.

Tadić reiterated that Serbia will not recognize Kosovo's independence, that it respects UN SC Resolution 1244 and that it seeks a solution for the participation of representatives of Priština in regional forums which would not mean recognizing independence, either explicitly or implicitly.

Mr. Tadic, like you these minorities "respect" Res 1244 but are not abiding it. How can you make such statements that they cannot hold a referendum when not too long ago you held elections (illegally) and contrary to Res 1244?

Do as I say, not as I do!


Sincerely,

"...holding of a referendum in northern Kosovo is harmful to the interests of the state of Serbia."

Is Tadic going to dismiss these "local leaders" acordingly or just words, words, words...to wash his hands.

Harmfull to Serbia or harmfull for your Policy ?

CCCC !.

Whom is the Greatest One - the Serbian State ot the Serbian People ?

Arn.Sweden.

Tadic in KS is playing the same politics as Slobo in Bosnia. In front of cameras he says something while behind the scenes does something else; all the time official Belgrade organising and financing the referendum and parallel institutions.
Will Europe buy this? Yes!
Will USA buy this? No?
Will they care? Not sure? Depends!
Can KS Albanians do something about this? Not much! Their only option is to send Police there again (prepare to fight this time not in riot gear as they did in July 2011). This will be equivalent to Serbia’s action in Preshevo 12 years ago.
But KFOR does not want trouble, and I am not sure what they would do in such an event. They do not like fighting just peace. Bad time for the region with neither side willing to compromise. The winner? There are no winners in these just losers. The economy there in total mess.

(sj, 15 February 2012 08:39) 

" Albanian terrorist "
Well who commited

Likoshane massacre
Cirez Massacre
Ljubenic Massacre 
Golubovac Massacre
Obrinje Massacre
Račak Massacre
Rogovo Massacre
Massacre at Velika Kruša
Bela Crkva Massacre
Izbica Massacre 
Ljubižda Massacre
Pusto Selo Massacre 
Rezala Massacre — 
Poklek Massacre 
Ćikatovo massacre
Meja Massacre -  
Velika Kruša massacre
Suva Reka massacre  
Vučitrn Massacre
Cuska Massacre
Dubrava Prison Massacre 
Prizren Massacre

???.

Ps: Hashim Thaci is ruled by EU and thats why he pulled out the ROSU police. But if Albin Kurti was in power today ( swear to god ) that ROSU would still be in North Mitrovica and also SURROUND! Mitrovica. You need to pray to god and hope that Albin Kurti won't become the next PM of the republic of kosovo because if he take the charge it's over homeboy.Belive that!!

Bad time for the region with neither side willing to compromise.
(femi, 15 February 2012 12:40)

Serbs were forced to compromise a lot and now Kosovo isn't under Serbia's control. Now it's Albanian turn to compromise.

By femi:
Ayy what do you propose?!
(femi, 15 February 2012 17:41)

BTW I am not Serbian.

1. Northern Kosovo should have opportunity to function de-facto and de-jure as part of Serbia with Serbian institutions and police. I don't know if it will decide to execise its right or not, but it should have this opportunity.

2. a) Southern Serbian enclaves should have opportunity to become little independent Vaticans (or part of Serbia). After Serbia makes sure Southern Serbian enclaves have their future and people stop leaving them, Serbia will recognise Kosovo (which could change its name to sound more Albanian).

or

2. b)Southern Serbian enclaves function as part of Kosovo. After KSerbs and Serbia are convinced that Kosovo is common Albanian/Serbian territory (not Albania II) where Serbian people could live in safety throughout all the region and where Serbian refugees could return, Serbia will recognize Kosovo as Serbian/Albanian state.

2. c)Kosovo could function as part of Serbia under international guarantees and supervision and in presentce of international peacekeepers.

3. RS in Bosnia should have rights for referendum for independence from Bosnia with possble reduction of territory as a compensation.

By triggering an unstoppable chain reaction. Other minorities attached to Serbia by force in other historical periods will hardly miss the opportunity to declare their will not to remain part of Serbia. Then what? All borders at one stage or another were drawn by force. Kosovo is lost for Serbia more than a decade ago. Challenging that may endangered practically all borders of Serbia.
(nik, 15 February 2012 07:28)

Wait a minute - is Kosovo a state such as Serbia or maybe is the territory without finally specified status, which is not a member of the UN, which is not recognized as "independent state" by Serbia and most countries in the world, which was created as result of NATO's aggression against Republic of Serbia, which violated the UN resolution 1244 guaranteeing the territorial integrity of Serbia?? And finally - this territory, which was created by detaching by the power part of the territory of the Republic of Serbia, against to the Constitution of the Republic of Serbia.
So the people of Northern Kosovo - citizens of Republic of Serbia - has no right to speak out against the imposition of power by force, not only breaks the Constitution of the Republic but the promises contained in Resolution 1244?

People of Northern Kosovo don't fight for secession - they fight AGAINST illegal secession of Kosovo i Metohija - province of Republic of Serbia. This referendym is AGAINST SECESSIONIST ACT and AGAINST ILLEGAL SECESSIONIST INSTITUTIONS (according Constitution of Serbia and Resolution 1244). So - is this referendum harmful for Serbia??

@Milan: You speak about the "sinking, corrupt, almost bankrupt, and undemocratic EU, AKA "The Fourth Reich"." How can you spread so stupid propaganda? Let us come to the facts: corrupt: Serbia is more corrupt than any EU member state (Corruption Perceptions Index), while most MS are on top of the list. "Almost bankrupt": You have obviously no understanding of the functioning of a state. The citizens of the EU countries hold enormous savings which are by far bigger than any state dept. The state is just a system. In case of real crisis, you simply increase taxes or inflation and the MS can easily pay for their depts. State depts are not comparable to private depts; take Japan, they are heavily indepted, but their citizens hold their state bonds, so it is no problem.
"undemocratic and Fourth Reich": Again, no understanding of the functioning of the EU. Those policy fields of the EU which are organised on a supranational level are controlled by the European Parliament and those which are intergovernmental (such as foreign policy) are legitimised by the elected foreign ministers. Your Fourth Reich approach is also stupid, because Germany might have a leading role during the Euro crisis, but the EU is not the Sovjet Union and Germany is not Russia. The European framework gives a fundamental and even bigger saying to smaller member states.
To your point of a "sinking" EU: The EU might be in a crisis, but any development is born out of a crisis. Apart from that: Look for example at the new member states Romania and Bulgaria, their GDP per capita and economy increased so much, that it overtook Serbia, although those countries were much worse performing before.
And to come back to the article: It is seriously time for Serbia to settle things with Pristina, if they have some internal disputed in Kosovo; so what, time to move on or let them do their referendum. But it is obviously not the right way to surpress from Belgrade any political movements in Northern Kosovo, just because Belgrade is afraid it will lose the rest of Kosovo in case the North splits from the rest of Kosovo.
Wrong propaganda based on wrong assumptions such as yours (and many others here) does not help to improve anything.

Ps: Hashim Thaci is ruled by EU and thats why he pulled out the ROSU police. But if Albin Kurti was in power today ( swear to god ) that ROSU would still be in North Mitrovica and also SURROUND! Mitrovica. You need to pray to god and hope that Albin Kurti won't become the next PM of the republic of kosovo because if he take the charge it's over homeboy.Belive that!!
(BT, 15 February 2012 11:03)

What if Albin Kurti's ROSU be confronted by Serbian Army?

What if Albin Kurti's ROSU be confronted by Serbian Army?
(aaayyy, 15 February 2012 13:17)

With or without help from Russia?
(BT, 15 February 2012 19:45)

I don't think it will be very difficult for Serbian Army to defeat ROSU in Northern Kosovo even without Russian help.

So does this mean that Tadic is supposed to call the northern Serbs "terrorists"? I think so! With that said, Serbia should let ROSU go in there and perform a mop up operation;) Happy Valentines Day losers!
(USA United States of Albania, 14 February 2012 17:22)

No we will let your Albanians keep the title terrorist as it suits you guy down to the ground. In fact even you much loved friend the US had you on their watch list.
Why don’t they allow you ROSU in and try it. Your ROSU is only there to keep your lot under control otherwise the Serbs would wipe the floor with them.

It takes money to organise a referendum. If Serbia is so much against it, who paid for the polls?

How the referendum, in which Serbs detached from the state by invading NATO force, want to express their desire to stay citizens of the Republic of Serbia but not created by the occupiers pseudo-state can be harmful to Serbia??

By triggering an unstoppable chain reaction. Other minorities attached to Serbia by force in other historical periods will hardly miss the opportunity to declare their will not to remain part of Serbia. Then what? All borders at one stage or another were drawn by force. Kosovo is lost for Serbia more than a decade ago. Challenging that may endangered practically all borders of Serbia.

AYYY Serbs were forced to compromise! --__--
yes but that is not that you wanted to compromise but you were defeated in battle. Its not the same thing.

At least we in B92 can and should come up with some sort of solutions since our leaders can not do that.

Ayy what do you propose?!

What if Albin Kurti's ROSU be confronted by Serbian Army?
(aaayyy, 15 February 2012 13:17)

With or without help from Russia?

So does this mean that Tadic is supposed to call the northern Serbs "terrorists"? I think so! With that said, Serbia should let ROSU go in there and perform a mop up operation;) Happy Valentines Day losers!

Tadić reiterated that Serbia will not recognize Kosovo's independence, that it respects UN SC Resolution 1244 and that it seeks a solution for the participation of representatives of Priština in regional forums which would not mean recognizing independence, either explicitly or implicitly.

Mr. Tadic, like you these minorities "respect" Res 1244 but are not abiding it. How can you make such statements that they cannot hold a referendum when not too long ago you held elections (illegally) and contrary to Res 1244?

Do as I say, not as I do!


Sincerely,

This is all smoke-screen... the masters of Serbian propaganda are in full swing here... again! We are not stupid Mr Tadic, this 'referendum' is organised, financed and promoted by saboteurs in Belgrade... the whole thing stinks to high heavens! Good luck with it!

"...holding of a referendum in northern Kosovo is harmful to the interests of the state of Serbia."

Is Tadic going to dismiss these "local leaders" acordingly or just words, words, words...to wash his hands.

How the referendum, in which Serbs detached from the state by invading NATO force, want to express their desire to stay citizens of the Republic of Serbia but not created by the occupiers pseudo-state can be harmful to Serbia??

What Tadic really tried to say is that he and his cronies are actually harmful for Serbia and the Serbs and that the Serbs in the north of Kosovo are the ones who stand up for themselves and hopefully at the same time derail Tadic's dream to guide Serbia into the sinking, corrupt, almost bankrupt, and undemocratic EU, AKA "The Fourth Reich". The EU carrot is not going to save Tadic when election results will judge him harshly.

(sj, 15 February 2012 08:39) 

" Albanian terrorist "
Well who commited

Likoshane massacre
Cirez Massacre
Ljubenic Massacre 
Golubovac Massacre
Obrinje Massacre
Račak Massacre
Rogovo Massacre
Massacre at Velika Kruša
Bela Crkva Massacre
Izbica Massacre 
Ljubižda Massacre
Pusto Selo Massacre 
Rezala Massacre — 
Poklek Massacre 
Ćikatovo massacre
Meja Massacre -  
Velika Kruša massacre
Suva Reka massacre  
Vučitrn Massacre
Cuska Massacre
Dubrava Prison Massacre 
Prizren Massacre

???.

Ps: Hashim Thaci is ruled by EU and thats why he pulled out the ROSU police. But if Albin Kurti was in power today ( swear to god ) that ROSU would still be in North Mitrovica and also SURROUND! Mitrovica. You need to pray to god and hope that Albin Kurti won't become the next PM of the republic of kosovo because if he take the charge it's over homeboy.Belive that!!

Typo in the title. It reads "Tadić: Referendum is harmful for Serbia" when it should actually read "Tadić is harmful for Serbia"

(the referendum can)...."only reduce the potentials of the state, and is not in the interests of Serbs in the province," Tadić said.
What a bunch of political nonsense! Tadic has never been a true leader that's willing to listen to the voice of the people.....so that's why he's saying, on behalf of his German masters, that expressing the will of the people is harmful to the state. Serbia deserves a true "democratic" party and leader- not the fake DS party who cares less about democracy, and more about what the EU and Germany demand.

If Kosovo isn't a part of Serbia, then how can the actions of Kosovo Serbs be harmful to Serbia?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmh.

No Boris, a referendum is only harmful to you!!!

Fyou Tadic

“The basic difference between an ordinary man and a warrior is that a warrior takes everything as a challenge while an ordinary man takes everything as a blessing or a curse.”
― Carlos Castaneda

Bad time for the region with neither side willing to compromise.
(femi, 15 February 2012 12:40)

Serbs were forced to compromise a lot and now Kosovo isn't under Serbia's control. Now it's Albanian turn to compromise.

Some relavent qutoes by Zoran Djindjic. Oh well I guess they DS can't apply these rules to themselves.

“The spirit of rebellion must live in Serbia. Only then will we know we are alive and not servants of a dictator.”

"Democracy is sometimes painful, but patience and tolerance, the will of the majority, are bound to win."

"We have torn off his mask in front of the world to show him as he really is -- a small-time Balkan dictator unable to bear the slightest defeat."

my how the mighty DS has fallen, my how men turn their backs on democracy when it inconveniences them

@Milan: You speak about the "sinking, corrupt, almost bankrupt, and undemocratic EU, AKA "The Fourth Reich"." How can you spread so stupid propaganda? Let us come to the facts: corrupt: Serbia is more corrupt than any EU member state (Corruption Perceptions Index), while most MS are on top of the list. "Almost bankrupt": You have obviously no understanding of the functioning of a state. The citizens of the EU countries hold enormous savings which are by far bigger than any state dept. The state is just a system. In case of real crisis, you simply increase taxes or inflation and the MS can easily pay for their depts. State depts are not comparable to private depts; take Japan, they are heavily indepted, but their citizens hold their state bonds, so it is no problem.
"undemocratic and Fourth Reich": Again, no understanding of the functioning of the EU. Those policy fields of the EU which are organised on a supranational level are controlled by the European Parliament and those which are intergovernmental (such as foreign policy) are legitimised by the elected foreign ministers. Your Fourth Reich approach is also stupid, because Germany might have a leading role during the Euro crisis, but the EU is not the Sovjet Union and Germany is not Russia. The European framework gives a fundamental and even bigger saying to smaller member states.
To your point of a "sinking" EU: The EU might be in a crisis, but any development is born out of a crisis. Apart from that: Look for example at the new member states Romania and Bulgaria, their GDP per capita and economy increased so much, that it overtook Serbia, although those countries were much worse performing before.
And to come back to the article: It is seriously time for Serbia to settle things with Pristina, if they have some internal disputed in Kosovo; so what, time to move on or let them do their referendum. But it is obviously not the right way to surpress from Belgrade any political movements in Northern Kosovo, just because Belgrade is afraid it will lose the rest of Kosovo in case the North splits from the rest of Kosovo.
Wrong propaganda based on wrong assumptions such as yours (and many others here) does not help to improve anything.

What if Albin Kurti's ROSU be confronted by Serbian Army?
(aaayyy, 15 February 2012 13:17)

With or without help from Russia?

How the referendum, in which Serbs detached from the state by invading NATO force, want to express their desire to stay citizens of the Republic of Serbia but not created by the occupiers pseudo-state can be harmful to Serbia??

By triggering an unstoppable chain reaction. Other minorities attached to Serbia by force in other historical periods will hardly miss the opportunity to declare their will not to remain part of Serbia. Then what? All borders at one stage or another were drawn by force. Kosovo is lost for Serbia more than a decade ago. Challenging that may endangered practically all borders of Serbia.

So does this mean that Tadic is supposed to call the northern Serbs "terrorists"? I think so! With that said, Serbia should let ROSU go in there and perform a mop up operation;) Happy Valentines Day losers!
(USA United States of Albania, 14 February 2012 17:22)

No we will let your Albanians keep the title terrorist as it suits you guy down to the ground. In fact even you much loved friend the US had you on their watch list.
Why don’t they allow you ROSU in and try it. Your ROSU is only there to keep your lot under control otherwise the Serbs would wipe the floor with them.

Tadic in KS is playing the same politics as Slobo in Bosnia. In front of cameras he says something while behind the scenes does something else; all the time official Belgrade organising and financing the referendum and parallel institutions.
Will Europe buy this? Yes!
Will USA buy this? No?
Will they care? Not sure? Depends!
Can KS Albanians do something about this? Not much! Their only option is to send Police there again (prepare to fight this time not in riot gear as they did in July 2011). This will be equivalent to Serbia’s action in Preshevo 12 years ago.
But KFOR does not want trouble, and I am not sure what they would do in such an event. They do not like fighting just peace. Bad time for the region with neither side willing to compromise. The winner? There are no winners in these just losers. The economy there in total mess.

By triggering an unstoppable chain reaction. Other minorities attached to Serbia by force in other historical periods will hardly miss the opportunity to declare their will not to remain part of Serbia. Then what? All borders at one stage or another were drawn by force. Kosovo is lost for Serbia more than a decade ago. Challenging that may endangered practically all borders of Serbia.
(nik, 15 February 2012 07:28)

Wait a minute - is Kosovo a state such as Serbia or maybe is the territory without finally specified status, which is not a member of the UN, which is not recognized as "independent state" by Serbia and most countries in the world, which was created as result of NATO's aggression against Republic of Serbia, which violated the UN resolution 1244 guaranteeing the territorial integrity of Serbia?? And finally - this territory, which was created by detaching by the power part of the territory of the Republic of Serbia, against to the Constitution of the Republic of Serbia.
So the people of Northern Kosovo - citizens of Republic of Serbia - has no right to speak out against the imposition of power by force, not only breaks the Constitution of the Republic but the promises contained in Resolution 1244?

People of Northern Kosovo don't fight for secession - they fight AGAINST illegal secession of Kosovo i Metohija - province of Republic of Serbia. This referendym is AGAINST SECESSIONIST ACT and AGAINST ILLEGAL SECESSIONIST INSTITUTIONS (according Constitution of Serbia and Resolution 1244). So - is this referendum harmful for Serbia??

AYYY Serbs were forced to compromise! --__--
yes but that is not that you wanted to compromise but you were defeated in battle. Its not the same thing.

At least we in B92 can and should come up with some sort of solutions since our leaders can not do that.

Ayy what do you propose?!

Ps: Hashim Thaci is ruled by EU and thats why he pulled out the ROSU police. But if Albin Kurti was in power today ( swear to god ) that ROSU would still be in North Mitrovica and also SURROUND! Mitrovica. You need to pray to god and hope that Albin Kurti won't become the next PM of the republic of kosovo because if he take the charge it's over homeboy.Belive that!!
(BT, 15 February 2012 11:03)

What if Albin Kurti's ROSU be confronted by Serbian Army?

It takes money to organise a referendum. If Serbia is so much against it, who paid for the polls?

Harmfull to Serbia or harmfull for your Policy ?

CCCC !.

Whom is the Greatest One - the Serbian State ot the Serbian People ?

Arn.Sweden.

By femi:
Ayy what do you propose?!
(femi, 15 February 2012 17:41)

BTW I am not Serbian.

1. Northern Kosovo should have opportunity to function de-facto and de-jure as part of Serbia with Serbian institutions and police. I don't know if it will decide to execise its right or not, but it should have this opportunity.

2. a) Southern Serbian enclaves should have opportunity to become little independent Vaticans (or part of Serbia). After Serbia makes sure Southern Serbian enclaves have their future and people stop leaving them, Serbia will recognise Kosovo (which could change its name to sound more Albanian).

or

2. b)Southern Serbian enclaves function as part of Kosovo. After KSerbs and Serbia are convinced that Kosovo is common Albanian/Serbian territory (not Albania II) where Serbian people could live in safety throughout all the region and where Serbian refugees could return, Serbia will recognize Kosovo as Serbian/Albanian state.

2. c)Kosovo could function as part of Serbia under international guarantees and supervision and in presentce of international peacekeepers.

3. RS in Bosnia should have rights for referendum for independence from Bosnia with possble reduction of territory as a compensation.

What if Albin Kurti's ROSU be confronted by Serbian Army?
(aaayyy, 15 February 2012 13:17)

With or without help from Russia?
(BT, 15 February 2012 19:45)

I don't think it will be very difficult for Serbian Army to defeat ROSU in Northern Kosovo even without Russian help.