EU mediator Cooper travels to Kosovo

Who cares? These EUrocrats just want to take Kosovo away from Serbia so they can rule it. The idiots just do not understand that they never will - nor will the Albaniacs. I can;t wait to see what the results of that referendum in the North will be, Cooper. Hahaha!

"Belgrade insists that the name of Kosovo should be accompanied with title UN Security Council 1244, which Priština has so far been adamant not to accept".

Let Serbia stick to "its principled position, red lines and its constitution"!

Serbia has made it choice BUT STILL wants to blame the others.

Its policies towards Kosovo "is contributing more and more to re-integration". IT IS VERY OBVIOUS.

The idiots just do not understand that they never will - nor will the Albaniacs. I can;t wait to see what the results of that referendum in the North will be, Cooper. Hahaha!
(winston, 14 February 2012 10:58)

I am trying "to figure out" who the real idiots are. I personally know the result that "Serbs in northern Kosovo do not wish to live under an independent Kosovo". If the answer of the "referendum" is "Yes" to Kosovo institution it would be obvious who is/are the idiot/s. Cheers za "referendum"...)))

Kosova is recognized by 88 countries.

This cannot be vanished with some sort of "agreement" that Kosova not only doesn't need but it will harm and nullify all her efforts done in decades.

Kosova has fought with blood, pain, passion and love to be Republic and now with EU "sponsored" (in fact dictated) "negotiation" should say: OK never mind we were joking we accept to be Serbian province.

Very soon Kosova will hit the number 100 recognitions why should Kosova nullify that??? For sake of what??? Of NOTHING. NOTHING is important to accept that you are not free and sovereign in your own land. That would be moronic even for Thaci. Just look at Macedonia and perhaps even learn. All Kosova needs is patience and to build strong democratic institutions in primis the defence capacities.

I can;t wait to see what the results of that referendum in the North will be, Cooper. Hahaha!
(winston, 14 February 2012 10:58)


There is a good chance that voter allegations-fraud could be something that might start to spread. This referendum is being funded by "suspicious sources" led by the opposition against the will of Kosovo, Serbia, UN | UNMIK, EULEX, and NATO. Lastly, this is all being done unsupervised...remember that.


Sincerely,

Kosova is recognized by 88 countries.

This cannot be vanished with some sort of "agreement" that Kosova not only doesn't need but it will harm and nullify all her efforts done in decades.

Kosova has fought with blood, pain, passion and love to be Republic and now with EU "sponsored" (in fact dictated) "negotiation" should say: OK never mind we were joking we accept to be Serbian province.

Very soon Kosova will hit the number 100 recognitions why should Kosova nullify that??? For sake of what??? Of NOTHING. NOTHING is important to accept that you are not free and sovereign in your own land. That would be moronic even for Thaci. Just look at Macedonia and perhaps even learn. All Kosova needs is patience and to build strong democratic institutions in primis the defence capacities.
(ben, 14 February 2012 19:44)

If you can show that Kosovo can stand on its own financial feet and not be a burden on the EU budget then that is the time you can say you have a choice otherwise you have to do as the EU tells you.
The EU is no longer able to support an indepemndent Kosovo and all of this is a long process of reintegration. Being recognized by 1000 counties matters little when you have not enough food to feed your people. Since the dawn of time the first place you look is the wallet and in Kosovo’s case its empty, not even coins.

If you can show that Kosovo can stand on its own financial feet and not be a burden on the EU budget then that is the time you can say you have a choice otherwise you have to do as the EU tells you.
The EU is no longer able to support an indepemndent Kosovo and all of this is a long process of reintegration. Being recognized by 1000 counties matters little when you have not enough food to feed your people. Since the dawn of time the first place you look is the wallet and in Kosovo’s case its empty, not even coins.
(sj, 14 February 2012 19:56)
Can you show that Serbia can stand on its own feet and not rely on the donations and loans from numerous sources to feed the fat cats? I don't think they are worrying about the ordinary people. The funny thing is Serbia has its infrastructure intact and the "respect of the whole world" (not my view). But has one of the lowest salaries of the lowest economic region on the continent.

"she is certain Priština will not accept any mention of Resolution 1244 or the word 'republic' not accompanying 'Kosovo'."

No problems, dont accept=don't participate

Beggars can't be choosers.

It really dosent matter if kosovo is recognized by the gods themselves all that matters is if serbia recognizes them.im greek and fyrom hasrecogniion by 130 coutrirs but it means nothing.even in greece weak state curntly fyrom cannot get into the eu or nato so it dosent matter kosovo has to come to a agreement with serbia and fyrom has to with greece
(Peter, 15 February 2012 00:14)

You are right about Greece and Macedonia. Macedonia cannot join the EU because Greece is blocking them.

This is precisely why Serbia is being forced to make peace with Kosovo before being allowed to join the EU. The EU doesn't want another Greece, or for that matter even the first Greece that they already have... Serbia will not be allowed to join the EU as long as it is trying to prevent Kosovo from also joining the EU and other organizations such as the UN.

As for those ridiculous posters who are talking about reintegration, what are you smoking? Every day Serbia does something else to prove to the world that it does not care about the Albanians (and often the Serbs) living in Kosovo. And you think that somehow we are moving towards reintegration? Before there was any chance of reintegration, there would have to be reconciliation, which would have to flow out of mutual respect. I see little sign of any of these.

But (Serbia) has one of the lowest salaries of the lowest economic region on the continent.
(pss, 15 February 2012 03:20)

Yes, but still the salaries are about twice as the ones in Kosovo, which has almost no economy, 50%+ unemployed people. And please don't tell me that it depends on the (lack of) infrastructure there. When politicians are busy with buying recognitions and caring for their own pockets instead of caring for the country and fighting corruption and criminality, don't expect any changes soon - nobody will invest in such an uncertain place.

Hmm, maybe it's even the same reason: Both politicians in Belgrade and Pristina spend money, time and efforts with 'fighting' for Kosovo instead for economic progress and the need of the ordinary people.

It is kind of poacdaxiral that certain people who love ever closer European unification also love the separation of the European countries into ever smaller pieces.Is it really poacdaxiral? I thought one of the schemes of the EU colleagues was to dilution of the strong powers by the proliferation of little ones, each with a vote power far beyond its economic significance.

It really dosent matter if kosovo is recognized by the gods themselves all that matters is if serbia recognizes them.im greek and fyrom hasrecogniion by 130 coutrirs but it means nothing.even in greece weak state curntly fyrom cannot get into the eu or nato so it dosent matter kosovo has to come to a agreement with serbia and fyrom has to with greece

Can you show that Serbia can stand on its own feet and not rely on the donations and loans from numerous sources to feed the fat cats? I don't think they are worrying about the ordinary people. The funny thing is Serbia has its infrastructure intact and the "respect of the whole world" (not my view). But has one of the lowest salaries of the lowest economic region on the continent.
(pss, 15 February 2012 03:20)

Yes it can. In fact it is the only part of the old Yugoslavia that has that capacity. It has the resources to do so, it has the energy and it has more than sufficient arable land to produce food for export. It is the only part where new investment is coming in the form of industry. Serbia has all the elements to sustain itself.

My experience, and I can assure you I have had plenty in this area, these so called foreign donations are only to pay off politicians and little else. All the money used to actually build infrastructure has been borrowed by Serbia and not donated except for a few projects which is the interests of the EU.

As far as infrastructure is concerned the west destroyed Serbia’s industry (not all, but enough) to have to make them start again and it is going to be a long and difficult road no doubt about it, but the potential is there.

If you think the EU or US are giving money to Serbia to keep it a float, think again as they are having so much difficulties themselves to try and do that. The EU has had to drastically reduced expenditure after 2007 as it already has too many mouths to support.

Now ask yourself this question. How is the Croatian economy stronger that Serbias? Why is the Kuna valued higher than the dinar? How on God’s earth can Montenegro’s GDP be higher than the Serbian?

It’s all called the pee and thimble trick. Because if this was possible without guarantees and prop ups from the EU then all countries around the world would increase their living standards quickly.

Ask your self what does Croatia export to bring income? Very little as its major industry is tourism. I do not know one nation on this planet that lives just off tourism; the same applies to Slovenia and Montenegro. As far as salaries are concerned, just keep watching HTV Dnevnik – it’s possibly the best source of how the locals feel and view the situation in the country. Having a high value currency means little as it allows you to import cheaply and that is all. Why do you think China wants to keep its currency down? Because it means it can export and earn income and why is industry opening up in Serbia? Because wages are lower than elsewhere – that is how you start to build wealth not with a high value currency.

Once you have people working, money starts to flow and even down the track if industry leaves you would have built up enough wealth to maintain your standard of lving provided you don’t borrow too much in the long term.

I can;t wait to see what the results of that referendum in the North will be, Cooper. Hahaha!
(winston, 14 February 2012 10:58)

Yes winston we have seen this kind of politics in Krajina, and we all know the result. I thought you learned something over there. How many serbs became refuges? Around 100 or 200 thousand? I thing they do have shelter for 50 more.

Who cares? These EUrocrats just want to take Kosovo away from Serbia so they can rule it. The idiots just do not understand that they never will - nor will the Albaniacs. I can;t wait to see what the results of that referendum in the North will be, Cooper. Hahaha!

"Belgrade insists that the name of Kosovo should be accompanied with title UN Security Council 1244, which Priština has so far been adamant not to accept".

Let Serbia stick to "its principled position, red lines and its constitution"!

Serbia has made it choice BUT STILL wants to blame the others.

Its policies towards Kosovo "is contributing more and more to re-integration". IT IS VERY OBVIOUS.

Kosova is recognized by 88 countries.

This cannot be vanished with some sort of "agreement" that Kosova not only doesn't need but it will harm and nullify all her efforts done in decades.

Kosova has fought with blood, pain, passion and love to be Republic and now with EU "sponsored" (in fact dictated) "negotiation" should say: OK never mind we were joking we accept to be Serbian province.

Very soon Kosova will hit the number 100 recognitions why should Kosova nullify that??? For sake of what??? Of NOTHING. NOTHING is important to accept that you are not free and sovereign in your own land. That would be moronic even for Thaci. Just look at Macedonia and perhaps even learn. All Kosova needs is patience and to build strong democratic institutions in primis the defence capacities.
(ben, 14 February 2012 19:44)

If you can show that Kosovo can stand on its own financial feet and not be a burden on the EU budget then that is the time you can say you have a choice otherwise you have to do as the EU tells you.
The EU is no longer able to support an indepemndent Kosovo and all of this is a long process of reintegration. Being recognized by 1000 counties matters little when you have not enough food to feed your people. Since the dawn of time the first place you look is the wallet and in Kosovo’s case its empty, not even coins.

Kosova is recognized by 88 countries.

This cannot be vanished with some sort of "agreement" that Kosova not only doesn't need but it will harm and nullify all her efforts done in decades.

Kosova has fought with blood, pain, passion and love to be Republic and now with EU "sponsored" (in fact dictated) "negotiation" should say: OK never mind we were joking we accept to be Serbian province.

Very soon Kosova will hit the number 100 recognitions why should Kosova nullify that??? For sake of what??? Of NOTHING. NOTHING is important to accept that you are not free and sovereign in your own land. That would be moronic even for Thaci. Just look at Macedonia and perhaps even learn. All Kosova needs is patience and to build strong democratic institutions in primis the defence capacities.

It really dosent matter if kosovo is recognized by the gods themselves all that matters is if serbia recognizes them.im greek and fyrom hasrecogniion by 130 coutrirs but it means nothing.even in greece weak state curntly fyrom cannot get into the eu or nato so it dosent matter kosovo has to come to a agreement with serbia and fyrom has to with greece

I can;t wait to see what the results of that referendum in the North will be, Cooper. Hahaha!
(winston, 14 February 2012 10:58)


There is a good chance that voter allegations-fraud could be something that might start to spread. This referendum is being funded by "suspicious sources" led by the opposition against the will of Kosovo, Serbia, UN | UNMIK, EULEX, and NATO. Lastly, this is all being done unsupervised...remember that.


Sincerely,

The idiots just do not understand that they never will - nor will the Albaniacs. I can;t wait to see what the results of that referendum in the North will be, Cooper. Hahaha!
(winston, 14 February 2012 10:58)

I am trying "to figure out" who the real idiots are. I personally know the result that "Serbs in northern Kosovo do not wish to live under an independent Kosovo". If the answer of the "referendum" is "Yes" to Kosovo institution it would be obvious who is/are the idiot/s. Cheers za "referendum"...)))

I can;t wait to see what the results of that referendum in the North will be, Cooper. Hahaha!
(winston, 14 February 2012 10:58)

Yes winston we have seen this kind of politics in Krajina, and we all know the result. I thought you learned something over there. How many serbs became refuges? Around 100 or 200 thousand? I thing they do have shelter for 50 more.

But (Serbia) has one of the lowest salaries of the lowest economic region on the continent.
(pss, 15 February 2012 03:20)

Yes, but still the salaries are about twice as the ones in Kosovo, which has almost no economy, 50%+ unemployed people. And please don't tell me that it depends on the (lack of) infrastructure there. When politicians are busy with buying recognitions and caring for their own pockets instead of caring for the country and fighting corruption and criminality, don't expect any changes soon - nobody will invest in such an uncertain place.

Hmm, maybe it's even the same reason: Both politicians in Belgrade and Pristina spend money, time and efforts with 'fighting' for Kosovo instead for economic progress and the need of the ordinary people.

If you can show that Kosovo can stand on its own financial feet and not be a burden on the EU budget then that is the time you can say you have a choice otherwise you have to do as the EU tells you.
The EU is no longer able to support an indepemndent Kosovo and all of this is a long process of reintegration. Being recognized by 1000 counties matters little when you have not enough food to feed your people. Since the dawn of time the first place you look is the wallet and in Kosovo’s case its empty, not even coins.
(sj, 14 February 2012 19:56)
Can you show that Serbia can stand on its own feet and not rely on the donations and loans from numerous sources to feed the fat cats? I don't think they are worrying about the ordinary people. The funny thing is Serbia has its infrastructure intact and the "respect of the whole world" (not my view). But has one of the lowest salaries of the lowest economic region on the continent.

"she is certain Priština will not accept any mention of Resolution 1244 or the word 'republic' not accompanying 'Kosovo'."

No problems, dont accept=don't participate

Beggars can't be choosers.

It really dosent matter if kosovo is recognized by the gods themselves all that matters is if serbia recognizes them.im greek and fyrom hasrecogniion by 130 coutrirs but it means nothing.even in greece weak state curntly fyrom cannot get into the eu or nato so it dosent matter kosovo has to come to a agreement with serbia and fyrom has to with greece
(Peter, 15 February 2012 00:14)

You are right about Greece and Macedonia. Macedonia cannot join the EU because Greece is blocking them.

This is precisely why Serbia is being forced to make peace with Kosovo before being allowed to join the EU. The EU doesn't want another Greece, or for that matter even the first Greece that they already have... Serbia will not be allowed to join the EU as long as it is trying to prevent Kosovo from also joining the EU and other organizations such as the UN.

As for those ridiculous posters who are talking about reintegration, what are you smoking? Every day Serbia does something else to prove to the world that it does not care about the Albanians (and often the Serbs) living in Kosovo. And you think that somehow we are moving towards reintegration? Before there was any chance of reintegration, there would have to be reconciliation, which would have to flow out of mutual respect. I see little sign of any of these.

Can you show that Serbia can stand on its own feet and not rely on the donations and loans from numerous sources to feed the fat cats? I don't think they are worrying about the ordinary people. The funny thing is Serbia has its infrastructure intact and the "respect of the whole world" (not my view). But has one of the lowest salaries of the lowest economic region on the continent.
(pss, 15 February 2012 03:20)

Yes it can. In fact it is the only part of the old Yugoslavia that has that capacity. It has the resources to do so, it has the energy and it has more than sufficient arable land to produce food for export. It is the only part where new investment is coming in the form of industry. Serbia has all the elements to sustain itself.

My experience, and I can assure you I have had plenty in this area, these so called foreign donations are only to pay off politicians and little else. All the money used to actually build infrastructure has been borrowed by Serbia and not donated except for a few projects which is the interests of the EU.

As far as infrastructure is concerned the west destroyed Serbia’s industry (not all, but enough) to have to make them start again and it is going to be a long and difficult road no doubt about it, but the potential is there.

If you think the EU or US are giving money to Serbia to keep it a float, think again as they are having so much difficulties themselves to try and do that. The EU has had to drastically reduced expenditure after 2007 as it already has too many mouths to support.

Now ask yourself this question. How is the Croatian economy stronger that Serbias? Why is the Kuna valued higher than the dinar? How on God’s earth can Montenegro’s GDP be higher than the Serbian?

It’s all called the pee and thimble trick. Because if this was possible without guarantees and prop ups from the EU then all countries around the world would increase their living standards quickly.

Ask your self what does Croatia export to bring income? Very little as its major industry is tourism. I do not know one nation on this planet that lives just off tourism; the same applies to Slovenia and Montenegro. As far as salaries are concerned, just keep watching HTV Dnevnik – it’s possibly the best source of how the locals feel and view the situation in the country. Having a high value currency means little as it allows you to import cheaply and that is all. Why do you think China wants to keep its currency down? Because it means it can export and earn income and why is industry opening up in Serbia? Because wages are lower than elsewhere – that is how you start to build wealth not with a high value currency.

Once you have people working, money starts to flow and even down the track if industry leaves you would have built up enough wealth to maintain your standard of lving provided you don’t borrow too much in the long term.

It is kind of poacdaxiral that certain people who love ever closer European unification also love the separation of the European countries into ever smaller pieces.Is it really poacdaxiral? I thought one of the schemes of the EU colleagues was to dilution of the strong powers by the proliferation of little ones, each with a vote power far beyond its economic significance.