Šešelj calls for “political destruction of SNS“

Lazar get your story right, were they simply being honest or did they sell out?

SRS views is Seselj's view, so there was no reason why the SRS view couldn't have been the Nikolic / Vucic view? I'll tell you why the party would be happier modernising - they would have many more people voting for them. You do realise Lazar that political parties exist to be elected?

Only fools believe that politicians and parties are principled and will never change. Once Seselj departs SRS will reform, not a lot, but it will be the same position that Nikolic and Vucic were advocating before they left the party.

"After all its easy for Seselj to talk from his cell with nothing to lose. Dozens of SRS members of parliaments have lost their seats and they stand to lose even more this time. They must surely worry they will finish up with a rump of 5-10 percent. It was a HUGE error for SRS to not back Nikolic against Seselj - he would have reformed the party and the party would have stopped him from reforming so much to being almost unrecognisable from DS. "
(bganon, 12 February 2012 14:46)

Right. A party who still sticks to an alleged war criminal as its leader instead of getting rid of persons of the past cannot have a future, they only can live on nostalgia and eventually sink.

There you have it - in effect its more important to Seselj to destroy SNS than it is to bring down the current government. This will have the governing parties clapping their hands with glee.

I would not be surprised if for the first time some in SRS will start to think about a future without Seselj, in a similar way that SPS began to distance itself from its creator some years ago.

After all its easy for Seselj to talk from his cell with nothing to lose. Dozens of SRS members of parliaments have lost their seats and they stand to lose even more this time. They must surely worry they will finish up with a rump of 5-10 percent. It was a HUGE error for SRS to not back Nikolic against Seselj - he would have reformed the party and the party would have stopped him from reforming so much to being almost unrecognisable from DS.

Never mind, the sick mentality says, if we are going down we will bring down those that betrayed us - who cares about the country!

to definitely defeat the government and to politically destroy renegade Radicals Tomislav Nikolić and Aleksandar Vučić’s party,“ he stressed.

That should move any sane olde Radical voter, still left, over to the New Radicals. Tom could have not asked for a better endorsement...

"and we have two goals – to definitely defeat the government and to politically destroy renegade Radicals Tomislav Nikolic and Aleksandar Vucic’s party,“ he stressed.
Did he mean: Destroy them with a rusty fork, maybe? ;)

“Our goal is to win 126 mandates and form the government on our own,” he explained.
A bit ambitious for a party that has estimated 7% of the voters as their supporters.

This reminds me of the 'People's Front of Judea' and 'Judean's People's Front'.

The only people we hate more than the Romans...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb_qHP7VaZE

Bganon, the sellouts Nikolic and Vucic really are not good fits for the SRS. They were simply being honest by breaking off. Their views are not in line with SRS views. Why should the party change in order to appease the sellout views of Nikolic?

As always, SRS will not support integration into the EU. Perhaps you forgot that the West bombed us, and would do it again if they had the opportunity/reason to do so. There are some very firm and good positions that the SRS has, and will never change. You meanwhile go and believe the fairy tale dreams that Tadic or Nikolic is spinning.

'I really hate to see anyone's words distorted to fit something it was not meant to'
Peggy that's never stopped you in the past from doing exactly that to me on more than one occasion.

Firstly I didn't quote Seselj. It is my belief that he feels it more important to destroy SNS than to form a government. That belief is born from his past attitude towards opponents. But more or important or equally important you don't find it strange that the primary motive of a politician isn't to be elected? I find that a little crazy. I would always rather move forward than try to bring somebody down and its his statement that is key to understanding his lack of SRS political success in recent years. Don't get me wrong it suits me ok, its just that Serbia needs decent, normal opposition parties that are ready for government.

Much as I dislike SPS, look at their political success. And trust me when I say that SRS MPs will be looking at SPS with envy, contrasting their current and future fortunes. Nobody wants to be in a party of losers where you are likely to be out of a job and party funds dry up with each election. They will soon all be kicking themselves for not ousting Seselj and going with Toma and Vucic.

Bam Bam you forgot the real gem. Why is a guy with a Croatian surname the leader of the Serb Radical Party? By the way those first names you mentioned are not exclusive to Serbia or Croatia, they are used by both. Unlike Seselj - which is a Croat name. You must be proud!

Peggy I appreciate that you enjoy wasting time debating things that aren't of interest to anybody but yourself. Do you think other people want to listen to this? My apologies, of course I'm not allowed to ask you questions any more because according to you a question is to put words in your mouth.

My belief or position on this issue hasn't changed, I was stating my opinion - as we all are here.

No I don't belong to any political party and I never have either in Serbia or elsewhere. I'm currently most sympathetic to the Green / Ecology Party in Serbia, as they haven't been corrupted.

Lazar you must be young to believe that political parties carry out their policies, if you were older you would know from experience that very few political parties are ever true to their political principles. I might wish this wasn't the case, but it doesn't change the fact.

Parties should be honest, but they are not, do you accept that?

The purpose of political parties is to be elected, of course. Ostensibly the purpose of political parties is to be elected to carry out their political program / manifesto, which is what I think you are saying. I don't believe you are saying that political parties / politicians aim to be in opposition or to languish in political obscurity, because if they do that they will never be able to implement their political program / ideology that people vote for.

Bganon, the greens are a silly appendage of the pro-EU forces in Europe. I laugh in their faces. Trust me, they are not in touch with what real greens are. Real greens are part anarchists, and I know that based on personal experience with them. I support the Green philosophy in general because it is quite leftist.

Vojislav Šešelj and Tomislav Nikolić good picture ,Vojislav is thinking in the picture what size of very very rusty spoon should I use on Tomislav Serbia is a laugh a minute.

" The purpose of political parties is an ideology. They support a particular view."
(Lazar, 13 February 2012 16:30)

That's something I would frown own. A political party should offer a program, solutions and a plan how to govern the country. It should NOT be based on ideology, but on the needs and circumstances of their voters and the country. Of course parties should have a general idea of the direction the country should evolve, but only 'replacing the government' or 'destruct the political enemies' is nothing that brings any progress.

I was a follower of the Serbian Radical party for many, many years. I still believe in some of the things they stand for. But there is a problem with the radicals which they refuse to adress. The radical party has become a cult of personality, seseljs personality. The question of whether mr seselj should be in the hauge is up for debate, personally I think he shouldnt, But he is, and the radicals wont move beyond it-even if it impedes thier stated political goals. The radicals have become the party of seselj and this is the problem, this is the reason I personally search for other parties. Nicolic is not much better, in fact true patriots have few choices in Serbia today.

The radicals have become the flip side of the coin of the LDP-both are margenlized and thier popularity will only decrease. The LDP is tied at the hip to the dictates of certain Western leaders, the radicals have become the personal club of Mr seselj.

Serbs have few choices when it comes to the question of who should lead the country. Somewhere out there there is a leader waiting to be discovered, but he or she is probaly unemployed and looking at travel brochures to the west-thats what people do when thier bellies are empty and thier hopes have been dashed for so many long years.

"There you have it - in effect its more important to Seselj to destroy SNS than it is to bring down the current government. This will have the governing parties clapping their hands with glee. "
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This is what Seselj said:

“Very important parliamentary and local elections are ahead of us and we have two goals – to definitely defeat the government and to politically destroy renegade Radicals Tomislav Nikolić and Aleksandar Vučić’s party,“ he stressed."
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The way I read it, Seselj has TWO goals of equal importance. Bgannon, where do you see that it's more important to destroy Nikolic? Are you putting words is someone's mouth again?

I am not suggesting that Radicals should be more supported than progressives or anyone else. But I really hate to see anyone's words distorted to fit something it was not meant to.

Lazar,

How can a political party be "a liar"?

Can a political party be "happy", "sad". How about "tall"?

"Firstly I didn't quote Seselj. It is my belief that he feels it more important to destroy SNS than to form a government. That belief is born from his past attitude towards opponents. But more or important or equally important you don't find it strange that the primary motive of a politician isn't to be elected?"
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Firstly, Geez bgannon you certainly have a lot of supporters out there. 0 positive and 116 negative ticks. With such overwhelming support I must give in.

Second, now you say it is your belief that Seselj would rather destroy etc. That is not what you said initially so the claim has changed.
Also, I never mentioned anything finding it strange that a primary motive of a politician isn't to be elected.
Yes, you have a question mark at the end but if this was truly a question you would ask, don't you find it strange instead of making a statement with a question mark.
Again, you presume something when nothing like it was posted by me.
You try in your very clever way to put words in my mouth and I did ask you to stop that. You sound like you belong to a political party with a purpose of cleverly trying to distort other posts.

Now for the question. Do you?

Vojislav Šešelj and Tomislav Nikolić good picture ,Vojislav is thinking in the picture what size of very very rusty spoon should I use on Tomislav Serbia is a laugh a minute.
(Lenard, 13 February 2012 06:49)

He has no rusty spoon anymore, we from Dohány Street did buy all of them and have a great supply now, we will re-sell them to Serbs at very good profit later if they decide to take the Kosovo business seriously.

And as usual - Serbs quarrel with Albanians but we in Dohány Street make good profit on them. Looking for a serious boost of my secret bank account in Kremlin. This is how Dohány Street works. :-P

ojislav Šešelj and Tomislav Nikolić good picture ,Vojislav is thinking in the picture what size of very very rusty spoon should I use on Tomislav Serbia is a laugh a minute.
(Lenard, 13 February 2012 06:49)

He has no rusty spoon anymore, we from Dohány Street did buy all of them and have a great supply now, we will re-sell them to Serbs at very good profit later if they decide to take the Kosovo business seriously.

And as usual - Serbs quarrel with Albanians but we in Dohány Street make good profit on them. Looking for a serious boost of my secret bank account in Kremlin. This is how Dohány Street works. :-P
(Ataman, 13 February 2012 12:35) Ataman you are a very resourceful people cornering the market on rusty spoons like that very brilliant. We've learned our lesson this time we are on your side Shalom.

Actually Lazar the Greens in Serbia advocate very similar positions to other green parties around the world, opposition to GMO, skepticism of global corporations, skepticism of monopolists.

Membership or non membership of the EU is not an issue I consider when voting for a party in Serbia. Lastly, they are the best option in Serbia, and one of the few parties that isn't in the pocket of businessmen. I'm always open to alternatives though Lazar so suggest away.

Peggy I appreciate that you enjoy wasting time debating things that aren't of interest to anybody but yourself. Do you think other people want to listen to this?
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I don't know. You are the first to complain.

"My apologies, of course I'm not allowed to ask you questions any more because according to you a question is to put words in your mouth"
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You are allowed to ask question. I never said that, but the way you frame that question is more of a conclusion that I may have made with a question mark at the end rather than an actual question. So please do ask questions but please make sure they ARE questions and not statements you want to project as my words.

Maybe you just don't like me picking your posts apart because you would like to get away with sneaky ways of making people look like they said something they didn't. Whatever, it is not important but I will continue to examine posts here as I am sure others will examine mine.
If I am getting really boring I am sure others will join you in condemnation too.

Bganon, regardless of what noble reasons you might have for voting for them, they are a pro-EU puppet party.

Bganon, you say that the purpose of political parties is to be elected. That is something that I frown on. The purpose of political parties is an ideology. They support a particular view. Therefore I think that parties should be honest and stick to those views and not lie to their voters in order to get votes. People should simply be honest and not scumbags who say A, think B, and do C. It's a shame that you support that and criticize others who do not like to see parties flip flop, regardless of who the parties are.

Jokes with spoons aside: looks like Serbia got the same problem I already have with USA, Russia and Hungary: there is not a single political party I would vote for. You joined an mighty gang, that's the way to go.

Bganon, my point is that political parties should not be liars who always change their opinions and things. I could see some gradual itty bitty changes... yeah maybe. But there is this certain thing that makes a party what it is. Nikolic in this case did not fit with the SRS spirit whatsoever. There is nothing wrong with being opposed to joining the EU for example. That is not backward thinking, that is a totally legitimate opinion. The SRS has some opinions like this and if someone does not like that well they are free to leave the party like Nikolic left.

You on the other hand... perhaps you prefer that parties flip flop their views all the time. I frown on that. Yet you seem to support it. Too bad.

Danilo, what I meant is that the party should not claim that it supports "A" and then be doing "B". It's what I said earlier, that one ought not to say A, think B, and do C. That is unfortunate. Yet it happens too often in the world.

How on earth did NIKOLIC get the name 'Tomislav', DACIC 'Ivica', MILOSEVIC 'Marko' or STAMBOLIC 'Ivan' ?....Do the Serbs envy Croat first names. You attempt to steal our land and know you want our names as well.

"Actually Lazar the Greens in Serbia advocate very similar positions to other green parties around the world, opposition to GMO, skepticism of global corporations, skepticism of monopolists."
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Well if they are anything like the greens in Australia then people of Serbia have a lot to worry about.

"There you have it - in effect its more important to Seselj to destroy SNS than it is to bring down the current government. This will have the governing parties clapping their hands with glee. "
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This is what Seselj said:

“Very important parliamentary and local elections are ahead of us and we have two goals – to definitely defeat the government and to politically destroy renegade Radicals Tomislav Nikolić and Aleksandar Vučić’s party,“ he stressed."
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The way I read it, Seselj has TWO goals of equal importance. Bgannon, where do you see that it's more important to destroy Nikolic? Are you putting words is someone's mouth again?

I am not suggesting that Radicals should be more supported than progressives or anyone else. But I really hate to see anyone's words distorted to fit something it was not meant to.

Bganon, the sellouts Nikolic and Vucic really are not good fits for the SRS. They were simply being honest by breaking off. Their views are not in line with SRS views. Why should the party change in order to appease the sellout views of Nikolic?

As always, SRS will not support integration into the EU. Perhaps you forgot that the West bombed us, and would do it again if they had the opportunity/reason to do so. There are some very firm and good positions that the SRS has, and will never change. You meanwhile go and believe the fairy tale dreams that Tadic or Nikolic is spinning.

There you have it - in effect its more important to Seselj to destroy SNS than it is to bring down the current government. This will have the governing parties clapping their hands with glee.

I would not be surprised if for the first time some in SRS will start to think about a future without Seselj, in a similar way that SPS began to distance itself from its creator some years ago.

After all its easy for Seselj to talk from his cell with nothing to lose. Dozens of SRS members of parliaments have lost their seats and they stand to lose even more this time. They must surely worry they will finish up with a rump of 5-10 percent. It was a HUGE error for SRS to not back Nikolic against Seselj - he would have reformed the party and the party would have stopped him from reforming so much to being almost unrecognisable from DS.

Never mind, the sick mentality says, if we are going down we will bring down those that betrayed us - who cares about the country!

How on earth did NIKOLIC get the name 'Tomislav', DACIC 'Ivica', MILOSEVIC 'Marko' or STAMBOLIC 'Ivan' ?....Do the Serbs envy Croat first names. You attempt to steal our land and know you want our names as well.

Jokes with spoons aside: looks like Serbia got the same problem I already have with USA, Russia and Hungary: there is not a single political party I would vote for. You joined an mighty gang, that's the way to go.

Vojislav Šešelj and Tomislav Nikolić good picture ,Vojislav is thinking in the picture what size of very very rusty spoon should I use on Tomislav Serbia is a laugh a minute.
(Lenard, 13 February 2012 06:49)

He has no rusty spoon anymore, we from Dohány Street did buy all of them and have a great supply now, we will re-sell them to Serbs at very good profit later if they decide to take the Kosovo business seriously.

And as usual - Serbs quarrel with Albanians but we in Dohány Street make good profit on them. Looking for a serious boost of my secret bank account in Kremlin. This is how Dohány Street works. :-P

This reminds me of the 'People's Front of Judea' and 'Judean's People's Front'.

The only people we hate more than the Romans...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb_qHP7VaZE

Bganon, my point is that political parties should not be liars who always change their opinions and things. I could see some gradual itty bitty changes... yeah maybe. But there is this certain thing that makes a party what it is. Nikolic in this case did not fit with the SRS spirit whatsoever. There is nothing wrong with being opposed to joining the EU for example. That is not backward thinking, that is a totally legitimate opinion. The SRS has some opinions like this and if someone does not like that well they are free to leave the party like Nikolic left.

You on the other hand... perhaps you prefer that parties flip flop their views all the time. I frown on that. Yet you seem to support it. Too bad.

ojislav Šešelj and Tomislav Nikolić good picture ,Vojislav is thinking in the picture what size of very very rusty spoon should I use on Tomislav Serbia is a laugh a minute.
(Lenard, 13 February 2012 06:49)

He has no rusty spoon anymore, we from Dohány Street did buy all of them and have a great supply now, we will re-sell them to Serbs at very good profit later if they decide to take the Kosovo business seriously.

And as usual - Serbs quarrel with Albanians but we in Dohány Street make good profit on them. Looking for a serious boost of my secret bank account in Kremlin. This is how Dohány Street works. :-P
(Ataman, 13 February 2012 12:35) Ataman you are a very resourceful people cornering the market on rusty spoons like that very brilliant. We've learned our lesson this time we are on your side Shalom.

Actually Lazar the Greens in Serbia advocate very similar positions to other green parties around the world, opposition to GMO, skepticism of global corporations, skepticism of monopolists.

Membership or non membership of the EU is not an issue I consider when voting for a party in Serbia. Lastly, they are the best option in Serbia, and one of the few parties that isn't in the pocket of businessmen. I'm always open to alternatives though Lazar so suggest away.

Bam Bam you forgot the real gem. Why is a guy with a Croatian surname the leader of the Serb Radical Party? By the way those first names you mentioned are not exclusive to Serbia or Croatia, they are used by both. Unlike Seselj - which is a Croat name. You must be proud!

Peggy I appreciate that you enjoy wasting time debating things that aren't of interest to anybody but yourself. Do you think other people want to listen to this? My apologies, of course I'm not allowed to ask you questions any more because according to you a question is to put words in your mouth.

My belief or position on this issue hasn't changed, I was stating my opinion - as we all are here.

No I don't belong to any political party and I never have either in Serbia or elsewhere. I'm currently most sympathetic to the Green / Ecology Party in Serbia, as they haven't been corrupted.

to definitely defeat the government and to politically destroy renegade Radicals Tomislav Nikolić and Aleksandar Vučić’s party,“ he stressed.

That should move any sane olde Radical voter, still left, over to the New Radicals. Tom could have not asked for a better endorsement...

Bganon, you say that the purpose of political parties is to be elected. That is something that I frown on. The purpose of political parties is an ideology. They support a particular view. Therefore I think that parties should be honest and stick to those views and not lie to their voters in order to get votes. People should simply be honest and not scumbags who say A, think B, and do C. It's a shame that you support that and criticize others who do not like to see parties flip flop, regardless of who the parties are.

Bganon, the greens are a silly appendage of the pro-EU forces in Europe. I laugh in their faces. Trust me, they are not in touch with what real greens are. Real greens are part anarchists, and I know that based on personal experience with them. I support the Green philosophy in general because it is quite leftist.

"and we have two goals – to definitely defeat the government and to politically destroy renegade Radicals Tomislav Nikolic and Aleksandar Vucic’s party,“ he stressed.
Did he mean: Destroy them with a rusty fork, maybe? ;)

“Our goal is to win 126 mandates and form the government on our own,” he explained.
A bit ambitious for a party that has estimated 7% of the voters as their supporters.

I was a follower of the Serbian Radical party for many, many years. I still believe in some of the things they stand for. But there is a problem with the radicals which they refuse to adress. The radical party has become a cult of personality, seseljs personality. The question of whether mr seselj should be in the hauge is up for debate, personally I think he shouldnt, But he is, and the radicals wont move beyond it-even if it impedes thier stated political goals. The radicals have become the party of seselj and this is the problem, this is the reason I personally search for other parties. Nicolic is not much better, in fact true patriots have few choices in Serbia today.

The radicals have become the flip side of the coin of the LDP-both are margenlized and thier popularity will only decrease. The LDP is tied at the hip to the dictates of certain Western leaders, the radicals have become the personal club of Mr seselj.

Serbs have few choices when it comes to the question of who should lead the country. Somewhere out there there is a leader waiting to be discovered, but he or she is probaly unemployed and looking at travel brochures to the west-thats what people do when thier bellies are empty and thier hopes have been dashed for so many long years.

Lazar you must be young to believe that political parties carry out their policies, if you were older you would know from experience that very few political parties are ever true to their political principles. I might wish this wasn't the case, but it doesn't change the fact.

Parties should be honest, but they are not, do you accept that?

The purpose of political parties is to be elected, of course. Ostensibly the purpose of political parties is to be elected to carry out their political program / manifesto, which is what I think you are saying. I don't believe you are saying that political parties / politicians aim to be in opposition or to languish in political obscurity, because if they do that they will never be able to implement their political program / ideology that people vote for.

Bganon, regardless of what noble reasons you might have for voting for them, they are a pro-EU puppet party.

"Actually Lazar the Greens in Serbia advocate very similar positions to other green parties around the world, opposition to GMO, skepticism of global corporations, skepticism of monopolists."
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Well if they are anything like the greens in Australia then people of Serbia have a lot to worry about.

'I really hate to see anyone's words distorted to fit something it was not meant to'
Peggy that's never stopped you in the past from doing exactly that to me on more than one occasion.

Firstly I didn't quote Seselj. It is my belief that he feels it more important to destroy SNS than to form a government. That belief is born from his past attitude towards opponents. But more or important or equally important you don't find it strange that the primary motive of a politician isn't to be elected? I find that a little crazy. I would always rather move forward than try to bring somebody down and its his statement that is key to understanding his lack of SRS political success in recent years. Don't get me wrong it suits me ok, its just that Serbia needs decent, normal opposition parties that are ready for government.

Much as I dislike SPS, look at their political success. And trust me when I say that SRS MPs will be looking at SPS with envy, contrasting their current and future fortunes. Nobody wants to be in a party of losers where you are likely to be out of a job and party funds dry up with each election. They will soon all be kicking themselves for not ousting Seselj and going with Toma and Vucic.

Lazar get your story right, were they simply being honest or did they sell out?

SRS views is Seselj's view, so there was no reason why the SRS view couldn't have been the Nikolic / Vucic view? I'll tell you why the party would be happier modernising - they would have many more people voting for them. You do realise Lazar that political parties exist to be elected?

Only fools believe that politicians and parties are principled and will never change. Once Seselj departs SRS will reform, not a lot, but it will be the same position that Nikolic and Vucic were advocating before they left the party.

Vojislav Šešelj and Tomislav Nikolić good picture ,Vojislav is thinking in the picture what size of very very rusty spoon should I use on Tomislav Serbia is a laugh a minute.

Lazar,

How can a political party be "a liar"?

Can a political party be "happy", "sad". How about "tall"?

"Firstly I didn't quote Seselj. It is my belief that he feels it more important to destroy SNS than to form a government. That belief is born from his past attitude towards opponents. But more or important or equally important you don't find it strange that the primary motive of a politician isn't to be elected?"
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Firstly, Geez bgannon you certainly have a lot of supporters out there. 0 positive and 116 negative ticks. With such overwhelming support I must give in.

Second, now you say it is your belief that Seselj would rather destroy etc. That is not what you said initially so the claim has changed.
Also, I never mentioned anything finding it strange that a primary motive of a politician isn't to be elected.
Yes, you have a question mark at the end but if this was truly a question you would ask, don't you find it strange instead of making a statement with a question mark.
Again, you presume something when nothing like it was posted by me.
You try in your very clever way to put words in my mouth and I did ask you to stop that. You sound like you belong to a political party with a purpose of cleverly trying to distort other posts.

Now for the question. Do you?

"After all its easy for Seselj to talk from his cell with nothing to lose. Dozens of SRS members of parliaments have lost their seats and they stand to lose even more this time. They must surely worry they will finish up with a rump of 5-10 percent. It was a HUGE error for SRS to not back Nikolic against Seselj - he would have reformed the party and the party would have stopped him from reforming so much to being almost unrecognisable from DS. "
(bganon, 12 February 2012 14:46)

Right. A party who still sticks to an alleged war criminal as its leader instead of getting rid of persons of the past cannot have a future, they only can live on nostalgia and eventually sink.

" The purpose of political parties is an ideology. They support a particular view."
(Lazar, 13 February 2012 16:30)

That's something I would frown own. A political party should offer a program, solutions and a plan how to govern the country. It should NOT be based on ideology, but on the needs and circumstances of their voters and the country. Of course parties should have a general idea of the direction the country should evolve, but only 'replacing the government' or 'destruct the political enemies' is nothing that brings any progress.

Danilo, what I meant is that the party should not claim that it supports "A" and then be doing "B". It's what I said earlier, that one ought not to say A, think B, and do C. That is unfortunate. Yet it happens too often in the world.

Peggy I appreciate that you enjoy wasting time debating things that aren't of interest to anybody but yourself. Do you think other people want to listen to this?
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I don't know. You are the first to complain.

"My apologies, of course I'm not allowed to ask you questions any more because according to you a question is to put words in your mouth"
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You are allowed to ask question. I never said that, but the way you frame that question is more of a conclusion that I may have made with a question mark at the end rather than an actual question. So please do ask questions but please make sure they ARE questions and not statements you want to project as my words.

Maybe you just don't like me picking your posts apart because you would like to get away with sneaky ways of making people look like they said something they didn't. Whatever, it is not important but I will continue to examine posts here as I am sure others will examine mine.
If I am getting really boring I am sure others will join you in condemnation too.