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162 victims from Lake Perućac identified

Identity of 162 victims of the war in Bosnia-Herzegovina, whose remains were found in Lake Perućac, has been determined.

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Adrian Gashi

pre 12 godina

Ataman with a rusty spoon and a toy tank,

Your Nikita tried a lil bit of "stabilization" with Albania in the 60's, but Russians left Vlora with about half of the submarines that they came with. Looks like little Albania, handed you your balls on a plate.

You seem to be consumed by uncontrollable and irrational rage, more and more as each day goes by. Alas, you have no T-90. You can't impress anyone by yelling if you have no tank.

I suggest you calm down a little bit. Drink some green tea, try excercise. This website is not good for your health. Albanians have been in Kosova before Milosevic and they are still there after him. They can surely survive another Ataman, trying to scare them into silence with a rusty spoon.

Baldy Beardy Bloody Mary

pre 12 godina

Leopard, let's go down (on me) for a serious business.
(Hillary the Cougar, 12 February 2012 12:20)

I am going to be jealous.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

There are too many ignoramuses on this forum. And, Ata, you're the leader of the pack!
(metrod, 11 February 2012 19:22)

Recommend (+90) Poor comment (-16)

You could be right, Metrod - I am ready to pay a drink to all 90 Albanian regulars from this forum. ;)
I can't count more than 20-25 tough even if I am hard-pressed. But maybe one Albanian vote counts four times. You got into that habit during the Hashish Baksheesh 120% election success, don't you ;)

Leopard 2 PSO

pre 12 godina

(Ataman, 12 February 2012 12:53)

You see, that's the reason I didn't hire you: You are neither funny nor half as intelligent as you think you are. Just being annoying simply wasn't enough to qualify.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

You can stop now making a complete fool of yourself.
(Leopard 2 PSO, 12 February 2012 10:07)

Pussycat, my objective is not to please you to begin with and no one is forcing you to read B92. I know, it will be a loss for everyone if you are gone, but see, Hillary the Cougar needs your loving attention so have some fun with her, at least you get some body exercise.

Djavol Uziva

pre 12 godina

Even one dead is more, than enough. I remember well the Yugoslavia as it used to be and as probably it should to be and what did happen was a tragedy without proportion in Central Europe.

One innocent is one too many, I totally agree. Yugoslavia's greatest failure was was it's fund process. Croats and Slovenes were screaming at Yugoslav beuracracy for it's allocation of funding. Up to 30% of this funding went to Kosovo, we now know what was done with this money. Yugoslavia did record achievments but also failures.

Andy UK

pre 12 godina

Any comment from Dodik or the RS government? Very bad publicity.Wonder if Milan Lukic is pleased with his work being backed up with bodies.

Leopard 2 PSO

pre 12 godina

(Ataman, 11 February 2012 21:38)

Ataman, I have filled the vacancy for a court jester in the meantime with somebody who doesn't repeat the same immature "jokes" over and over again. You can stop now making a complete fool of yourself.

Lenard

pre 12 godina

This is what happened to the poor murdered innocents victims of a Srpska aka evil criminal Greater Serbia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vi%C5%A1egrad_massacres .

Ataman

pre 12 godina

I know you would love a 360million modern soviet fascist union, maybe put another Stalin Dzugashvili, some more "stabilization" in Czechoslovakia and Hungary, commit theft and genocides, than blame the west. The usual delusion since marx and aparatchis working together...
(koko, 11 February 2012 18:02)

Koko, I don't feel very comfortable doing all that without a pair of humanitarian, merciful, democratic rusty spoon used the proper way on every Albanian. What you write is 100% correct, but we really need these rusty spoons. Currently I am running a ring where we try to buy as much rusty spoons as possible and sell them to Serbs for a good profit, the money is going into my hidden Rouble account of the Kremlin Bank, managed by not only Putin - but also by Lenin, too since he is alive, steering all that while living on the invisible side of the Moon.

This is the truth, I have to confess - and what a smart boy you are to figure it out! Do you want a candy? Its a bit rusty because of the spoons, but still sweet.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

Now we know who is the ignorant in this case!
(ardi asllani, 11 February 2012 18:22)

C'mon - if the dilligence can marry stupidity than the name of their child is "Albotroller". Shame on the trollers who try to hijack a tragedy to gain some leverage for their little dirty albo-agenda. They will achieve just the opposite what they want. At one point way to many neutrals will be not sympathetic to your case and it will hurt. Begin of 1980-s I started as a neutral with quite some curiosity towards Albanian culture and history. Your "colleagues" did a "great" job, I think. Way to go.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

Ataman, you speak of terrorism. I shall call you Ata the Verbal Terrorist.
(metrod, 11 February 2012 19:22)

you come here to troll, you get back the troll. That's so simple. I do not see a SINGLE out there on your side anymore who even remotely uses a tone better that what you use towards a street dog.

So you complain that I don't like you?

You bet! I don't like you.

You complain I am agressive towards your ideas?

You bet! I am.

In the real life as I told many times I do not have much problems with Albanians I am more-less mingling with. I make a clear differentiation between alboidiots and albotrollers of B92, YouTube and such and the ones I know from the real life.

There is one problem: you poison the youth. I know someone who is at a university with a good number of Kosovo-Albanian kids. Their views make them ridiculous with their peers but people are polite in that place and do not tell it up-front (unfortunately). What is spoken behind them is a different matter. The problem is that "Albanism". But probably what I am saying is a waste of time. But if you sit down and think a bit you may gain somethng, who knows. After all, what the heck I am saying and why if I am neither Serb nor Albanian and why such strong feelings? As the Pooh-bear said in the fairy-tale: "think, think, think". :)

metrod

pre 12 godina

"You are an ignorant because we don't make difference between "Croats", "Bosnians" and "Serbs", for us they are all basically the same nation - divided by the religion. This is a great tragedy, now obviously again hijacked by Albanian verbal terrorists. I have no problem with Bosnians, and Albo verbal terrorists should rather look at what they did with Gorani - Bosnains in their multi-ethnic "paradise".

Your level of development is few hundred years behind of Bosnia. And as you know, Albanians are the most "beloved" people all over former Yugo, Bosnia and Croatia included. The reason is their beackwards mentality and agression towards anyone who does not share their view 100%.
Ataman"

This is too funny!
You're accusing Ardi of ignorance and verbal terrorism yet you're doing just that.
You speak of aggression of a peoples toward others who don't share 100% of their views.
Hint: Take a look at Serbia and her past.

All countries that broke away from Yugoslavia are backwards thinking and pretty much in the same boat. I believe this way of thinking stems from the Turkish rule. But, that shouldn't be an excuse. They've had 100 years to correct that way of thinking. Yet, here we are!

Ataman, you speak of terrorism. I shall call you Ata the Verbal Terrorist.
Any relation to Mohammed Ata?

There are too many ignoramuses on this forum. And, Ata, you're the leader of the pack!

ardi asllani

pre 12 godina

You are an ignorant because we don't make difference between "Croats", "Bosnians" and "Serbs", for us they are all basically the same nation - divided by the religion.

@Ataman,
Your comment explains everything about Vukovar &Srebrenica. Way to go . Now we know who is the ignorant in this case!

koko

pre 12 godina

"You are an ignorant because we don't make difference between "Croats", "Bosnians" and "Serbs", for us they are all basically the same nation" Ottomachi


Of course you do not care to make a difference. Thats why your mercenaries have no books to sign after they got their behinds handed to them.

I know you would love a 360million modern soviet fascist union, maybe put another Stalin Dzugashvili, some more "stabilization" in Czechoslovakia and Hungary, commit theft and genocides, than blame the west. The usual delusion since marx and aparatchis working together...

It is a shame and waste of life to be so unoriginal as you in the year 2012!

Steve B.

pre 12 godina

Ask forgiveness as has done your hated Germany!
(dori tirana, 11 February 2012 12:57)

The German's may have recognized their NAZI actions as atrocities. But have the Croats? Have the Albanians? They both fought for the NAZIs. Why haven't they apologized?

Ataman

pre 12 godina

You forgot to mention Peggy as well, but the list is long that I would like to add few names,such as:obilic,gavrilo, nemapredaje,trizzo, ataman, etc...
(ardi asllani, 11 February 2012 12:47)

You are an ignorant because we don't make difference between "Croats", "Bosnians" and "Serbs", for us they are all basically the same nation - divided by the religion. This is a great tragedy, now obviously again hijacked by Albanian verbal terrorists. I have no problem with Bosnians, and Albo verbal terrorists should rather look at what they did with Gorani - Bosnains in their multi-ethnic "paradise".

Your level of development is few hundred years behind of Bosnia. And as you know, Albanians are the most "beloved" people all over former Yugo, Bosnia and Croatia included. The reason is their beackwards mentality and agression towards anyone who does not share their view 100%.

Lies, Damn Lies & Comm Parisson

pre 12 godina

From the horses mouth Comm Parisson:

http://www.ex-yupress.com/dani/dani123.html

But what about the thousands who were listed as soldiers, but were in fact civilians? In the case of Srebrenica, for example, thousands were listed as soldiers, since that was the only way for their families to survive, given that the state did not have the means to look after civilians. How are these dead classified?


Who is being dishonest when calling soldiers civilians?

Ataman

pre 12 godina

Today I make claims of numbers to destroy another signature. The dead turn not from those who deny but those who will use them to re-enter the cycle.
(Djavol Uziva, 11 February 2012 14:42)

Even one dead is more, than enough. I remember well the Yugoslavia as it used to be and as probably it should to be and what did happen was a tragedy without proportion in Central Europe.

Now, as an other shameful act the usual Albotrollers ABUSE this tragedy for their own unholy intentions, conveniently "forgetting" what did they do to Gorani-Bosnians and again trying to increase the tensions. Shame to these "fanboys", get a life, the further from here the better, the unvisible side of the Moon is probably a good place. Can't be a topic here without your pathetic KosovA project and Albo-feeling?

metrod

pre 12 godina

"I hope no one here will be so blind and ignorant to point fingers at how horrible one side in the Balkan Wars was, than another. All sides committed horrific crimes, and these remains of victims show this. The Balkan Wars were political, spurred on by the West, because it was in their long term interests. Unfortunately, it is usually innocent victims that lose their lives, while the politicians sit back in their chairs and play a board game of territories and armies. RIP all victims of those horrible wars that did nothing to better the situation in the Balkans, but separate the peoples that once lived there together, and left scars that may never heal.
PapaJohn"

You speak of ignorance and pointing fingers today yet you put that on display on a regular basis.
To be taken seriously, you should start by admitting the crimes of your people against their neighobors, ask for forgiveness and move forward.

Yet, you point figners at the West.
How ignorant! Ignorance is not an excuse!

Your FM made a statement in the last couple of days on how Serbia has a good reputation worldwide.

No, Mr. FM. That's false. That's unfair to those Serbs who had nothing to do with the crimes of their parents and relatives. Unfortunately, there are too many Serbs who consider sociopaths who killed women and children as 'national heroes'.
Yet, they blame the West. How sad and moronic!

Can't we put such people on an island far, far away...and throw some posters from this forum as well?

Djavol Uziva

pre 12 godina

(Comm. Parrisson, 11 February 2012 13:35)

So it is a numbers game? If there was a display of knowledge of the war in Bosnia it would easily be summed up as localised violence on a mass scale. See there were many stories that Muslims fought Muslims, Ideology be it wealth before ethnicity, many fighters in opposing trenches trading sugar for coffee, the same told their neighbours including the soldiers to pack up when large groups of there own army would be arriving, high % of women invlolved in the war effort including the front lines ie blue jays. I myself come to the conclusion there is alot I don't understand, why the first massacre was needed when it would lead to hell(politically I understand but locally). Why if I want to be on my own away from Serbs would I want to have them not want to be on their own away from me. Why did I want to sacrifice and plunge into chaos all these people, why did I prod a bear? What did I expect? Who was the devil on my shoulder giving me permission to keep prodding? When all that had to be done was not take away my signature from a peace plan.
Today I make claims of numbers to destroy another signature. The dead turn not from those who deny but those who will use them to re-enter the cycle.

Kalifornija

pre 12 godina

I didn't read anyone saying anything about denying Serbian crimes during the Wars. Show me where you read that regarding this story. But how do you feel about the ethnic cleansing that is still going on in Kosovo today where Albanians are trying to drive out Serbs?

koko

pre 12 godina

You know that everyone was a participant in murders in the Balkan Wars.
(PapaJohn,

Not at all. Your egalitarian system does not pay dues to Serbia that fought against Slovenia Croatia Bosnia and Kosovo away from Serbian borders into others territory.

No matter if you believe that Yugoserbia was only for Serbs to decide what happens when.

Kalifornija

pre 12 godina

CommParrisson, you get the prize for being the first Serb hater today - with your comment on this story. Do you maybe think that some serbian women and children were killed by Muslims, Croats, and Albanians during the Balkan Wars of the 90's? What is it with the constant hate here?

PapaJohn

pre 12 godina

Don’t were Bosnians to Belgrade, but Serbs to Sarajeva, don’t were Albanian at Belgrade, but Serbs at Pristina.
(dori tirana, 11 February 2012 12:57) I don't understand this part of your statement. In any case, I am saying that people here that hate serbs, jump at the chance to call them murderers, but never acknowledge the crimes their own people committed. You know that everyone was a participant in murders in the Balkan Wars. You are not that stupid and blind. BTW, Albanians are to this day trying to drive Serbs out of KiM, and erase anything serbian. Just look at the story today of another church desecration by Albanian thugs. Do you think this is OK? Should Serbs now go and defecate in Albanian mosque? You may be hopeless.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

"Do you maybe think that some serbian women and children were killed by Muslims, Croats, and Albanians during the Balkan Wars of the 90's?"
(Kalifornija, 11 February 2012 13:08)

Sure it was like that. Probably some 100s. I don't deny it. And I'm not a Serb hater, I only 'hate' those people who permanently deny any Serbian war crime in Bosnia and try to justify the Srebrenica massacre with statements like the 6000+ male persons slaughtered have all been 'fighters'

dori tirana

pre 12 godina

I hope no one here will be so blind and ignorant to point fingers at how horrible one side in the Balkan Wars was, than another. All sides committed horrific crimes, and these remains of victims show this. The Balkan Wars were political, spurred on by the West, because it was in their long term interests. Unfortunately, it is usually innocent victims that lose their lives, while the politicians sit back in their chairs and play a board game of territories and armies. RIP all victims of those horrible wars that did nothing to better the situation in the Balkans, but separate the peoples that once lived there together, and left scars that may never heal.
(PapaJohn, 11 February 2012 11:53)

Another Serb that as usual confuse the victim with aggressor, the cause with consequence.

PapaJohn the Map of Kingdom of Serbia of 13th century is the reason of all these victims by all sides(Serbs also). Ask forgiveness as has done your hated Germany! You are killing twice this people denying the truth. Don’t were Bosnians to Belgrade, but Serbs to Sarajeva, don’t were Albanian at Belgrade, but Serbs at Pristina.

ardi asllani

pre 12 godina

"Around 25 percent of the victims are women, including three girls aged from nine and half to 17. 160 of the identified victims are Bosniaks and two are Serbs."

25% of these 162 are 40 persons - of course all these woman and kids have been Bosnian fighters legitimately killed by the Serbian heroes. I'm sure Ida will agree with me!
(Comm. Parrisson, 11 February 2012 11:54)

You forgot to mention Peggy as well, but the list is long that I would like to add few names,such as:obilic,gavrilo, nemapredaje,trizzo, ataman, etc...

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

"Around 25 percent of the victims are women, including three girls aged from nine and half to 17. 160 of the identified victims are Bosniaks and two are Serbs."

25% of these 162 are 40 persons - of course all these woman and kids have been Bosnian fighters legitimately killed by the Serbian heroes. I'm sure Ida will agree with me!

PapaJohn

pre 12 godina

I hope no one here will be so blind and ignorant to point fingers at how horrible one side in the Balkan Wars was, than another. All sides committed horrific crimes, and these remains of victims show this. The Balkan Wars were political, spurred on by the West, because it was in their long term interests. Unfortunately, it is usually innocent victims that lose their lives, while the politicians sit back in their chairs and play a board game of territories and armies. RIP all victims of those horrible wars that did nothing to better the situation in the Balkans, but separate the peoples that once lived there together, and left scars that may never heal.

Adrian Gashi

pre 12 godina

Ataman with a rusty spoon and a toy tank,

Your Nikita tried a lil bit of "stabilization" with Albania in the 60's, but Russians left Vlora with about half of the submarines that they came with. Looks like little Albania, handed you your balls on a plate.

You seem to be consumed by uncontrollable and irrational rage, more and more as each day goes by. Alas, you have no T-90. You can't impress anyone by yelling if you have no tank.

I suggest you calm down a little bit. Drink some green tea, try excercise. This website is not good for your health. Albanians have been in Kosova before Milosevic and they are still there after him. They can surely survive another Ataman, trying to scare them into silence with a rusty spoon.

metrod

pre 12 godina

"You are an ignorant because we don't make difference between "Croats", "Bosnians" and "Serbs", for us they are all basically the same nation - divided by the religion. This is a great tragedy, now obviously again hijacked by Albanian verbal terrorists. I have no problem with Bosnians, and Albo verbal terrorists should rather look at what they did with Gorani - Bosnains in their multi-ethnic "paradise".

Your level of development is few hundred years behind of Bosnia. And as you know, Albanians are the most "beloved" people all over former Yugo, Bosnia and Croatia included. The reason is their beackwards mentality and agression towards anyone who does not share their view 100%.
Ataman"

This is too funny!
You're accusing Ardi of ignorance and verbal terrorism yet you're doing just that.
You speak of aggression of a peoples toward others who don't share 100% of their views.
Hint: Take a look at Serbia and her past.

All countries that broke away from Yugoslavia are backwards thinking and pretty much in the same boat. I believe this way of thinking stems from the Turkish rule. But, that shouldn't be an excuse. They've had 100 years to correct that way of thinking. Yet, here we are!

Ataman, you speak of terrorism. I shall call you Ata the Verbal Terrorist.
Any relation to Mohammed Ata?

There are too many ignoramuses on this forum. And, Ata, you're the leader of the pack!

Leopard 2 PSO

pre 12 godina

(Ataman, 11 February 2012 21:38)

Ataman, I have filled the vacancy for a court jester in the meantime with somebody who doesn't repeat the same immature "jokes" over and over again. You can stop now making a complete fool of yourself.

ardi asllani

pre 12 godina

You are an ignorant because we don't make difference between "Croats", "Bosnians" and "Serbs", for us they are all basically the same nation - divided by the religion.

@Ataman,
Your comment explains everything about Vukovar &Srebrenica. Way to go . Now we know who is the ignorant in this case!

ardi asllani

pre 12 godina

"Around 25 percent of the victims are women, including three girls aged from nine and half to 17. 160 of the identified victims are Bosniaks and two are Serbs."

25% of these 162 are 40 persons - of course all these woman and kids have been Bosnian fighters legitimately killed by the Serbian heroes. I'm sure Ida will agree with me!
(Comm. Parrisson, 11 February 2012 11:54)

You forgot to mention Peggy as well, but the list is long that I would like to add few names,such as:obilic,gavrilo, nemapredaje,trizzo, ataman, etc...

koko

pre 12 godina

You know that everyone was a participant in murders in the Balkan Wars.
(PapaJohn,

Not at all. Your egalitarian system does not pay dues to Serbia that fought against Slovenia Croatia Bosnia and Kosovo away from Serbian borders into others territory.

No matter if you believe that Yugoserbia was only for Serbs to decide what happens when.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

"Around 25 percent of the victims are women, including three girls aged from nine and half to 17. 160 of the identified victims are Bosniaks and two are Serbs."

25% of these 162 are 40 persons - of course all these woman and kids have been Bosnian fighters legitimately killed by the Serbian heroes. I'm sure Ida will agree with me!

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

"Do you maybe think that some serbian women and children were killed by Muslims, Croats, and Albanians during the Balkan Wars of the 90's?"
(Kalifornija, 11 February 2012 13:08)

Sure it was like that. Probably some 100s. I don't deny it. And I'm not a Serb hater, I only 'hate' those people who permanently deny any Serbian war crime in Bosnia and try to justify the Srebrenica massacre with statements like the 6000+ male persons slaughtered have all been 'fighters'

koko

pre 12 godina

"You are an ignorant because we don't make difference between "Croats", "Bosnians" and "Serbs", for us they are all basically the same nation" Ottomachi


Of course you do not care to make a difference. Thats why your mercenaries have no books to sign after they got their behinds handed to them.

I know you would love a 360million modern soviet fascist union, maybe put another Stalin Dzugashvili, some more "stabilization" in Czechoslovakia and Hungary, commit theft and genocides, than blame the west. The usual delusion since marx and aparatchis working together...

It is a shame and waste of life to be so unoriginal as you in the year 2012!

dori tirana

pre 12 godina

I hope no one here will be so blind and ignorant to point fingers at how horrible one side in the Balkan Wars was, than another. All sides committed horrific crimes, and these remains of victims show this. The Balkan Wars were political, spurred on by the West, because it was in their long term interests. Unfortunately, it is usually innocent victims that lose their lives, while the politicians sit back in their chairs and play a board game of territories and armies. RIP all victims of those horrible wars that did nothing to better the situation in the Balkans, but separate the peoples that once lived there together, and left scars that may never heal.
(PapaJohn, 11 February 2012 11:53)

Another Serb that as usual confuse the victim with aggressor, the cause with consequence.

PapaJohn the Map of Kingdom of Serbia of 13th century is the reason of all these victims by all sides(Serbs also). Ask forgiveness as has done your hated Germany! You are killing twice this people denying the truth. Don’t were Bosnians to Belgrade, but Serbs to Sarajeva, don’t were Albanian at Belgrade, but Serbs at Pristina.

metrod

pre 12 godina

"I hope no one here will be so blind and ignorant to point fingers at how horrible one side in the Balkan Wars was, than another. All sides committed horrific crimes, and these remains of victims show this. The Balkan Wars were political, spurred on by the West, because it was in their long term interests. Unfortunately, it is usually innocent victims that lose their lives, while the politicians sit back in their chairs and play a board game of territories and armies. RIP all victims of those horrible wars that did nothing to better the situation in the Balkans, but separate the peoples that once lived there together, and left scars that may never heal.
PapaJohn"

You speak of ignorance and pointing fingers today yet you put that on display on a regular basis.
To be taken seriously, you should start by admitting the crimes of your people against their neighobors, ask for forgiveness and move forward.

Yet, you point figners at the West.
How ignorant! Ignorance is not an excuse!

Your FM made a statement in the last couple of days on how Serbia has a good reputation worldwide.

No, Mr. FM. That's false. That's unfair to those Serbs who had nothing to do with the crimes of their parents and relatives. Unfortunately, there are too many Serbs who consider sociopaths who killed women and children as 'national heroes'.
Yet, they blame the West. How sad and moronic!

Can't we put such people on an island far, far away...and throw some posters from this forum as well?

Leopard 2 PSO

pre 12 godina

(Ataman, 12 February 2012 12:53)

You see, that's the reason I didn't hire you: You are neither funny nor half as intelligent as you think you are. Just being annoying simply wasn't enough to qualify.

Kalifornija

pre 12 godina

CommParrisson, you get the prize for being the first Serb hater today - with your comment on this story. Do you maybe think that some serbian women and children were killed by Muslims, Croats, and Albanians during the Balkan Wars of the 90's? What is it with the constant hate here?

PapaJohn

pre 12 godina

I hope no one here will be so blind and ignorant to point fingers at how horrible one side in the Balkan Wars was, than another. All sides committed horrific crimes, and these remains of victims show this. The Balkan Wars were political, spurred on by the West, because it was in their long term interests. Unfortunately, it is usually innocent victims that lose their lives, while the politicians sit back in their chairs and play a board game of territories and armies. RIP all victims of those horrible wars that did nothing to better the situation in the Balkans, but separate the peoples that once lived there together, and left scars that may never heal.

Andy UK

pre 12 godina

Any comment from Dodik or the RS government? Very bad publicity.Wonder if Milan Lukic is pleased with his work being backed up with bodies.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

You forgot to mention Peggy as well, but the list is long that I would like to add few names,such as:obilic,gavrilo, nemapredaje,trizzo, ataman, etc...
(ardi asllani, 11 February 2012 12:47)

You are an ignorant because we don't make difference between "Croats", "Bosnians" and "Serbs", for us they are all basically the same nation - divided by the religion. This is a great tragedy, now obviously again hijacked by Albanian verbal terrorists. I have no problem with Bosnians, and Albo verbal terrorists should rather look at what they did with Gorani - Bosnains in their multi-ethnic "paradise".

Your level of development is few hundred years behind of Bosnia. And as you know, Albanians are the most "beloved" people all over former Yugo, Bosnia and Croatia included. The reason is their beackwards mentality and agression towards anyone who does not share their view 100%.

Kalifornija

pre 12 godina

I didn't read anyone saying anything about denying Serbian crimes during the Wars. Show me where you read that regarding this story. But how do you feel about the ethnic cleansing that is still going on in Kosovo today where Albanians are trying to drive out Serbs?

PapaJohn

pre 12 godina

Don’t were Bosnians to Belgrade, but Serbs to Sarajeva, don’t were Albanian at Belgrade, but Serbs at Pristina.
(dori tirana, 11 February 2012 12:57) I don't understand this part of your statement. In any case, I am saying that people here that hate serbs, jump at the chance to call them murderers, but never acknowledge the crimes their own people committed. You know that everyone was a participant in murders in the Balkan Wars. You are not that stupid and blind. BTW, Albanians are to this day trying to drive Serbs out of KiM, and erase anything serbian. Just look at the story today of another church desecration by Albanian thugs. Do you think this is OK? Should Serbs now go and defecate in Albanian mosque? You may be hopeless.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

Today I make claims of numbers to destroy another signature. The dead turn not from those who deny but those who will use them to re-enter the cycle.
(Djavol Uziva, 11 February 2012 14:42)

Even one dead is more, than enough. I remember well the Yugoslavia as it used to be and as probably it should to be and what did happen was a tragedy without proportion in Central Europe.

Now, as an other shameful act the usual Albotrollers ABUSE this tragedy for their own unholy intentions, conveniently "forgetting" what did they do to Gorani-Bosnians and again trying to increase the tensions. Shame to these "fanboys", get a life, the further from here the better, the unvisible side of the Moon is probably a good place. Can't be a topic here without your pathetic KosovA project and Albo-feeling?

Lenard

pre 12 godina

This is what happened to the poor murdered innocents victims of a Srpska aka evil criminal Greater Serbia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vi%C5%A1egrad_massacres .

Djavol Uziva

pre 12 godina

(Comm. Parrisson, 11 February 2012 13:35)

So it is a numbers game? If there was a display of knowledge of the war in Bosnia it would easily be summed up as localised violence on a mass scale. See there were many stories that Muslims fought Muslims, Ideology be it wealth before ethnicity, many fighters in opposing trenches trading sugar for coffee, the same told their neighbours including the soldiers to pack up when large groups of there own army would be arriving, high % of women invlolved in the war effort including the front lines ie blue jays. I myself come to the conclusion there is alot I don't understand, why the first massacre was needed when it would lead to hell(politically I understand but locally). Why if I want to be on my own away from Serbs would I want to have them not want to be on their own away from me. Why did I want to sacrifice and plunge into chaos all these people, why did I prod a bear? What did I expect? Who was the devil on my shoulder giving me permission to keep prodding? When all that had to be done was not take away my signature from a peace plan.
Today I make claims of numbers to destroy another signature. The dead turn not from those who deny but those who will use them to re-enter the cycle.

Steve B.

pre 12 godina

Ask forgiveness as has done your hated Germany!
(dori tirana, 11 February 2012 12:57)

The German's may have recognized their NAZI actions as atrocities. But have the Croats? Have the Albanians? They both fought for the NAZIs. Why haven't they apologized?

Ataman

pre 12 godina

I know you would love a 360million modern soviet fascist union, maybe put another Stalin Dzugashvili, some more "stabilization" in Czechoslovakia and Hungary, commit theft and genocides, than blame the west. The usual delusion since marx and aparatchis working together...
(koko, 11 February 2012 18:02)

Koko, I don't feel very comfortable doing all that without a pair of humanitarian, merciful, democratic rusty spoon used the proper way on every Albanian. What you write is 100% correct, but we really need these rusty spoons. Currently I am running a ring where we try to buy as much rusty spoons as possible and sell them to Serbs for a good profit, the money is going into my hidden Rouble account of the Kremlin Bank, managed by not only Putin - but also by Lenin, too since he is alive, steering all that while living on the invisible side of the Moon.

This is the truth, I have to confess - and what a smart boy you are to figure it out! Do you want a candy? Its a bit rusty because of the spoons, but still sweet.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

There are too many ignoramuses on this forum. And, Ata, you're the leader of the pack!
(metrod, 11 February 2012 19:22)

Recommend (+90) Poor comment (-16)

You could be right, Metrod - I am ready to pay a drink to all 90 Albanian regulars from this forum. ;)
I can't count more than 20-25 tough even if I am hard-pressed. But maybe one Albanian vote counts four times. You got into that habit during the Hashish Baksheesh 120% election success, don't you ;)

Ataman

pre 12 godina

Now we know who is the ignorant in this case!
(ardi asllani, 11 February 2012 18:22)

C'mon - if the dilligence can marry stupidity than the name of their child is "Albotroller". Shame on the trollers who try to hijack a tragedy to gain some leverage for their little dirty albo-agenda. They will achieve just the opposite what they want. At one point way to many neutrals will be not sympathetic to your case and it will hurt. Begin of 1980-s I started as a neutral with quite some curiosity towards Albanian culture and history. Your "colleagues" did a "great" job, I think. Way to go.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

You can stop now making a complete fool of yourself.
(Leopard 2 PSO, 12 February 2012 10:07)

Pussycat, my objective is not to please you to begin with and no one is forcing you to read B92. I know, it will be a loss for everyone if you are gone, but see, Hillary the Cougar needs your loving attention so have some fun with her, at least you get some body exercise.

Lies, Damn Lies & Comm Parisson

pre 12 godina

From the horses mouth Comm Parisson:

http://www.ex-yupress.com/dani/dani123.html

But what about the thousands who were listed as soldiers, but were in fact civilians? In the case of Srebrenica, for example, thousands were listed as soldiers, since that was the only way for their families to survive, given that the state did not have the means to look after civilians. How are these dead classified?


Who is being dishonest when calling soldiers civilians?

Ataman

pre 12 godina

Ataman, you speak of terrorism. I shall call you Ata the Verbal Terrorist.
(metrod, 11 February 2012 19:22)

you come here to troll, you get back the troll. That's so simple. I do not see a SINGLE out there on your side anymore who even remotely uses a tone better that what you use towards a street dog.

So you complain that I don't like you?

You bet! I don't like you.

You complain I am agressive towards your ideas?

You bet! I am.

In the real life as I told many times I do not have much problems with Albanians I am more-less mingling with. I make a clear differentiation between alboidiots and albotrollers of B92, YouTube and such and the ones I know from the real life.

There is one problem: you poison the youth. I know someone who is at a university with a good number of Kosovo-Albanian kids. Their views make them ridiculous with their peers but people are polite in that place and do not tell it up-front (unfortunately). What is spoken behind them is a different matter. The problem is that "Albanism". But probably what I am saying is a waste of time. But if you sit down and think a bit you may gain somethng, who knows. After all, what the heck I am saying and why if I am neither Serb nor Albanian and why such strong feelings? As the Pooh-bear said in the fairy-tale: "think, think, think". :)

Baldy Beardy Bloody Mary

pre 12 godina

Leopard, let's go down (on me) for a serious business.
(Hillary the Cougar, 12 February 2012 12:20)

I am going to be jealous.

Djavol Uziva

pre 12 godina

Even one dead is more, than enough. I remember well the Yugoslavia as it used to be and as probably it should to be and what did happen was a tragedy without proportion in Central Europe.

One innocent is one too many, I totally agree. Yugoslavia's greatest failure was was it's fund process. Croats and Slovenes were screaming at Yugoslav beuracracy for it's allocation of funding. Up to 30% of this funding went to Kosovo, we now know what was done with this money. Yugoslavia did record achievments but also failures.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

Ataman, you speak of terrorism. I shall call you Ata the Verbal Terrorist.
(metrod, 11 February 2012 19:22)

you come here to troll, you get back the troll. That's so simple. I do not see a SINGLE out there on your side anymore who even remotely uses a tone better that what you use towards a street dog.

So you complain that I don't like you?

You bet! I don't like you.

You complain I am agressive towards your ideas?

You bet! I am.

In the real life as I told many times I do not have much problems with Albanians I am more-less mingling with. I make a clear differentiation between alboidiots and albotrollers of B92, YouTube and such and the ones I know from the real life.

There is one problem: you poison the youth. I know someone who is at a university with a good number of Kosovo-Albanian kids. Their views make them ridiculous with their peers but people are polite in that place and do not tell it up-front (unfortunately). What is spoken behind them is a different matter. The problem is that "Albanism". But probably what I am saying is a waste of time. But if you sit down and think a bit you may gain somethng, who knows. After all, what the heck I am saying and why if I am neither Serb nor Albanian and why such strong feelings? As the Pooh-bear said in the fairy-tale: "think, think, think". :)

Ataman

pre 12 godina

I know you would love a 360million modern soviet fascist union, maybe put another Stalin Dzugashvili, some more "stabilization" in Czechoslovakia and Hungary, commit theft and genocides, than blame the west. The usual delusion since marx and aparatchis working together...
(koko, 11 February 2012 18:02)

Koko, I don't feel very comfortable doing all that without a pair of humanitarian, merciful, democratic rusty spoon used the proper way on every Albanian. What you write is 100% correct, but we really need these rusty spoons. Currently I am running a ring where we try to buy as much rusty spoons as possible and sell them to Serbs for a good profit, the money is going into my hidden Rouble account of the Kremlin Bank, managed by not only Putin - but also by Lenin, too since he is alive, steering all that while living on the invisible side of the Moon.

This is the truth, I have to confess - and what a smart boy you are to figure it out! Do you want a candy? Its a bit rusty because of the spoons, but still sweet.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

Now we know who is the ignorant in this case!
(ardi asllani, 11 February 2012 18:22)

C'mon - if the dilligence can marry stupidity than the name of their child is "Albotroller". Shame on the trollers who try to hijack a tragedy to gain some leverage for their little dirty albo-agenda. They will achieve just the opposite what they want. At one point way to many neutrals will be not sympathetic to your case and it will hurt. Begin of 1980-s I started as a neutral with quite some curiosity towards Albanian culture and history. Your "colleagues" did a "great" job, I think. Way to go.

Baldy Beardy Bloody Mary

pre 12 godina

Leopard, let's go down (on me) for a serious business.
(Hillary the Cougar, 12 February 2012 12:20)

I am going to be jealous.

PapaJohn

pre 12 godina

I hope no one here will be so blind and ignorant to point fingers at how horrible one side in the Balkan Wars was, than another. All sides committed horrific crimes, and these remains of victims show this. The Balkan Wars were political, spurred on by the West, because it was in their long term interests. Unfortunately, it is usually innocent victims that lose their lives, while the politicians sit back in their chairs and play a board game of territories and armies. RIP all victims of those horrible wars that did nothing to better the situation in the Balkans, but separate the peoples that once lived there together, and left scars that may never heal.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

You forgot to mention Peggy as well, but the list is long that I would like to add few names,such as:obilic,gavrilo, nemapredaje,trizzo, ataman, etc...
(ardi asllani, 11 February 2012 12:47)

You are an ignorant because we don't make difference between "Croats", "Bosnians" and "Serbs", for us they are all basically the same nation - divided by the religion. This is a great tragedy, now obviously again hijacked by Albanian verbal terrorists. I have no problem with Bosnians, and Albo verbal terrorists should rather look at what they did with Gorani - Bosnains in their multi-ethnic "paradise".

Your level of development is few hundred years behind of Bosnia. And as you know, Albanians are the most "beloved" people all over former Yugo, Bosnia and Croatia included. The reason is their beackwards mentality and agression towards anyone who does not share their view 100%.

PapaJohn

pre 12 godina

Don’t were Bosnians to Belgrade, but Serbs to Sarajeva, don’t were Albanian at Belgrade, but Serbs at Pristina.
(dori tirana, 11 February 2012 12:57) I don't understand this part of your statement. In any case, I am saying that people here that hate serbs, jump at the chance to call them murderers, but never acknowledge the crimes their own people committed. You know that everyone was a participant in murders in the Balkan Wars. You are not that stupid and blind. BTW, Albanians are to this day trying to drive Serbs out of KiM, and erase anything serbian. Just look at the story today of another church desecration by Albanian thugs. Do you think this is OK? Should Serbs now go and defecate in Albanian mosque? You may be hopeless.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

"Around 25 percent of the victims are women, including three girls aged from nine and half to 17. 160 of the identified victims are Bosniaks and two are Serbs."

25% of these 162 are 40 persons - of course all these woman and kids have been Bosnian fighters legitimately killed by the Serbian heroes. I'm sure Ida will agree with me!

Kalifornija

pre 12 godina

I didn't read anyone saying anything about denying Serbian crimes during the Wars. Show me where you read that regarding this story. But how do you feel about the ethnic cleansing that is still going on in Kosovo today where Albanians are trying to drive out Serbs?

Ataman

pre 12 godina

You can stop now making a complete fool of yourself.
(Leopard 2 PSO, 12 February 2012 10:07)

Pussycat, my objective is not to please you to begin with and no one is forcing you to read B92. I know, it will be a loss for everyone if you are gone, but see, Hillary the Cougar needs your loving attention so have some fun with her, at least you get some body exercise.

Steve B.

pre 12 godina

Ask forgiveness as has done your hated Germany!
(dori tirana, 11 February 2012 12:57)

The German's may have recognized their NAZI actions as atrocities. But have the Croats? Have the Albanians? They both fought for the NAZIs. Why haven't they apologized?

Ataman

pre 12 godina

There are too many ignoramuses on this forum. And, Ata, you're the leader of the pack!
(metrod, 11 February 2012 19:22)

Recommend (+90) Poor comment (-16)

You could be right, Metrod - I am ready to pay a drink to all 90 Albanian regulars from this forum. ;)
I can't count more than 20-25 tough even if I am hard-pressed. But maybe one Albanian vote counts four times. You got into that habit during the Hashish Baksheesh 120% election success, don't you ;)

Kalifornija

pre 12 godina

CommParrisson, you get the prize for being the first Serb hater today - with your comment on this story. Do you maybe think that some serbian women and children were killed by Muslims, Croats, and Albanians during the Balkan Wars of the 90's? What is it with the constant hate here?

ardi asllani

pre 12 godina

"Around 25 percent of the victims are women, including three girls aged from nine and half to 17. 160 of the identified victims are Bosniaks and two are Serbs."

25% of these 162 are 40 persons - of course all these woman and kids have been Bosnian fighters legitimately killed by the Serbian heroes. I'm sure Ida will agree with me!
(Comm. Parrisson, 11 February 2012 11:54)

You forgot to mention Peggy as well, but the list is long that I would like to add few names,such as:obilic,gavrilo, nemapredaje,trizzo, ataman, etc...

Ataman

pre 12 godina

Today I make claims of numbers to destroy another signature. The dead turn not from those who deny but those who will use them to re-enter the cycle.
(Djavol Uziva, 11 February 2012 14:42)

Even one dead is more, than enough. I remember well the Yugoslavia as it used to be and as probably it should to be and what did happen was a tragedy without proportion in Central Europe.

Now, as an other shameful act the usual Albotrollers ABUSE this tragedy for their own unholy intentions, conveniently "forgetting" what did they do to Gorani-Bosnians and again trying to increase the tensions. Shame to these "fanboys", get a life, the further from here the better, the unvisible side of the Moon is probably a good place. Can't be a topic here without your pathetic KosovA project and Albo-feeling?

Djavol Uziva

pre 12 godina

(Comm. Parrisson, 11 February 2012 13:35)

So it is a numbers game? If there was a display of knowledge of the war in Bosnia it would easily be summed up as localised violence on a mass scale. See there were many stories that Muslims fought Muslims, Ideology be it wealth before ethnicity, many fighters in opposing trenches trading sugar for coffee, the same told their neighbours including the soldiers to pack up when large groups of there own army would be arriving, high % of women invlolved in the war effort including the front lines ie blue jays. I myself come to the conclusion there is alot I don't understand, why the first massacre was needed when it would lead to hell(politically I understand but locally). Why if I want to be on my own away from Serbs would I want to have them not want to be on their own away from me. Why did I want to sacrifice and plunge into chaos all these people, why did I prod a bear? What did I expect? Who was the devil on my shoulder giving me permission to keep prodding? When all that had to be done was not take away my signature from a peace plan.
Today I make claims of numbers to destroy another signature. The dead turn not from those who deny but those who will use them to re-enter the cycle.

dori tirana

pre 12 godina

I hope no one here will be so blind and ignorant to point fingers at how horrible one side in the Balkan Wars was, than another. All sides committed horrific crimes, and these remains of victims show this. The Balkan Wars were political, spurred on by the West, because it was in their long term interests. Unfortunately, it is usually innocent victims that lose their lives, while the politicians sit back in their chairs and play a board game of territories and armies. RIP all victims of those horrible wars that did nothing to better the situation in the Balkans, but separate the peoples that once lived there together, and left scars that may never heal.
(PapaJohn, 11 February 2012 11:53)

Another Serb that as usual confuse the victim with aggressor, the cause with consequence.

PapaJohn the Map of Kingdom of Serbia of 13th century is the reason of all these victims by all sides(Serbs also). Ask forgiveness as has done your hated Germany! You are killing twice this people denying the truth. Don’t were Bosnians to Belgrade, but Serbs to Sarajeva, don’t were Albanian at Belgrade, but Serbs at Pristina.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

"Do you maybe think that some serbian women and children were killed by Muslims, Croats, and Albanians during the Balkan Wars of the 90's?"
(Kalifornija, 11 February 2012 13:08)

Sure it was like that. Probably some 100s. I don't deny it. And I'm not a Serb hater, I only 'hate' those people who permanently deny any Serbian war crime in Bosnia and try to justify the Srebrenica massacre with statements like the 6000+ male persons slaughtered have all been 'fighters'

Lies, Damn Lies & Comm Parisson

pre 12 godina

From the horses mouth Comm Parisson:

http://www.ex-yupress.com/dani/dani123.html

But what about the thousands who were listed as soldiers, but were in fact civilians? In the case of Srebrenica, for example, thousands were listed as soldiers, since that was the only way for their families to survive, given that the state did not have the means to look after civilians. How are these dead classified?


Who is being dishonest when calling soldiers civilians?

metrod

pre 12 godina

"I hope no one here will be so blind and ignorant to point fingers at how horrible one side in the Balkan Wars was, than another. All sides committed horrific crimes, and these remains of victims show this. The Balkan Wars were political, spurred on by the West, because it was in their long term interests. Unfortunately, it is usually innocent victims that lose their lives, while the politicians sit back in their chairs and play a board game of territories and armies. RIP all victims of those horrible wars that did nothing to better the situation in the Balkans, but separate the peoples that once lived there together, and left scars that may never heal.
PapaJohn"

You speak of ignorance and pointing fingers today yet you put that on display on a regular basis.
To be taken seriously, you should start by admitting the crimes of your people against their neighobors, ask for forgiveness and move forward.

Yet, you point figners at the West.
How ignorant! Ignorance is not an excuse!

Your FM made a statement in the last couple of days on how Serbia has a good reputation worldwide.

No, Mr. FM. That's false. That's unfair to those Serbs who had nothing to do with the crimes of their parents and relatives. Unfortunately, there are too many Serbs who consider sociopaths who killed women and children as 'national heroes'.
Yet, they blame the West. How sad and moronic!

Can't we put such people on an island far, far away...and throw some posters from this forum as well?

koko

pre 12 godina

You know that everyone was a participant in murders in the Balkan Wars.
(PapaJohn,

Not at all. Your egalitarian system does not pay dues to Serbia that fought against Slovenia Croatia Bosnia and Kosovo away from Serbian borders into others territory.

No matter if you believe that Yugoserbia was only for Serbs to decide what happens when.

Djavol Uziva

pre 12 godina

Even one dead is more, than enough. I remember well the Yugoslavia as it used to be and as probably it should to be and what did happen was a tragedy without proportion in Central Europe.

One innocent is one too many, I totally agree. Yugoslavia's greatest failure was was it's fund process. Croats and Slovenes were screaming at Yugoslav beuracracy for it's allocation of funding. Up to 30% of this funding went to Kosovo, we now know what was done with this money. Yugoslavia did record achievments but also failures.

metrod

pre 12 godina

"You are an ignorant because we don't make difference between "Croats", "Bosnians" and "Serbs", for us they are all basically the same nation - divided by the religion. This is a great tragedy, now obviously again hijacked by Albanian verbal terrorists. I have no problem with Bosnians, and Albo verbal terrorists should rather look at what they did with Gorani - Bosnains in their multi-ethnic "paradise".

Your level of development is few hundred years behind of Bosnia. And as you know, Albanians are the most "beloved" people all over former Yugo, Bosnia and Croatia included. The reason is their beackwards mentality and agression towards anyone who does not share their view 100%.
Ataman"

This is too funny!
You're accusing Ardi of ignorance and verbal terrorism yet you're doing just that.
You speak of aggression of a peoples toward others who don't share 100% of their views.
Hint: Take a look at Serbia and her past.

All countries that broke away from Yugoslavia are backwards thinking and pretty much in the same boat. I believe this way of thinking stems from the Turkish rule. But, that shouldn't be an excuse. They've had 100 years to correct that way of thinking. Yet, here we are!

Ataman, you speak of terrorism. I shall call you Ata the Verbal Terrorist.
Any relation to Mohammed Ata?

There are too many ignoramuses on this forum. And, Ata, you're the leader of the pack!

ardi asllani

pre 12 godina

You are an ignorant because we don't make difference between "Croats", "Bosnians" and "Serbs", for us they are all basically the same nation - divided by the religion.

@Ataman,
Your comment explains everything about Vukovar &Srebrenica. Way to go . Now we know who is the ignorant in this case!

koko

pre 12 godina

"You are an ignorant because we don't make difference between "Croats", "Bosnians" and "Serbs", for us they are all basically the same nation" Ottomachi


Of course you do not care to make a difference. Thats why your mercenaries have no books to sign after they got their behinds handed to them.

I know you would love a 360million modern soviet fascist union, maybe put another Stalin Dzugashvili, some more "stabilization" in Czechoslovakia and Hungary, commit theft and genocides, than blame the west. The usual delusion since marx and aparatchis working together...

It is a shame and waste of life to be so unoriginal as you in the year 2012!

Lenard

pre 12 godina

This is what happened to the poor murdered innocents victims of a Srpska aka evil criminal Greater Serbia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vi%C5%A1egrad_massacres .

Adrian Gashi

pre 12 godina

Ataman with a rusty spoon and a toy tank,

Your Nikita tried a lil bit of "stabilization" with Albania in the 60's, but Russians left Vlora with about half of the submarines that they came with. Looks like little Albania, handed you your balls on a plate.

You seem to be consumed by uncontrollable and irrational rage, more and more as each day goes by. Alas, you have no T-90. You can't impress anyone by yelling if you have no tank.

I suggest you calm down a little bit. Drink some green tea, try excercise. This website is not good for your health. Albanians have been in Kosova before Milosevic and they are still there after him. They can surely survive another Ataman, trying to scare them into silence with a rusty spoon.

Leopard 2 PSO

pre 12 godina

(Ataman, 11 February 2012 21:38)

Ataman, I have filled the vacancy for a court jester in the meantime with somebody who doesn't repeat the same immature "jokes" over and over again. You can stop now making a complete fool of yourself.

Andy UK

pre 12 godina

Any comment from Dodik or the RS government? Very bad publicity.Wonder if Milan Lukic is pleased with his work being backed up with bodies.

Leopard 2 PSO

pre 12 godina

(Ataman, 12 February 2012 12:53)

You see, that's the reason I didn't hire you: You are neither funny nor half as intelligent as you think you are. Just being annoying simply wasn't enough to qualify.