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Daily: Pressure on Serbia increases

It is still unknown when the Belgrade-Priština talks could continue and the pressure exerted on Serbia is being increased every day, daily Politika writes.

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Peggy

pre 12 godina

"Regardless, what is even more appalling is the fact that messages full of hate are being approved by the moderators. But in the other hand I am glad that they approved these messages, as it allows the impartial reader to see the true face of some posters here."
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For once I agree with an Albanian. There are so many hateful and sarcastic posts coming from Albanians and their one man Croatian cheer squad (Lenard) that it really does show them as they really are.

icj1

pre 12 godina

I have a war crime that comes to mind Skinner. How about the fact that the USA and NATO bombed the living s*&t out of Serbia in 1999 without the consent of the UN Security Council.
(Another Canadian Serb, 9 February 2012 18:58)

You are totally off track, dear. USA and NATO, by definition, cannot committ a war crime.

dori tirana

pre 12 godina

Is this the same analogy you Albanians use for the mass migration of ethnic Albanians to the territory of Serbia and the Serbs being caught off guard and eventually somewhat powerless to defend their interests???

Because if it is then I think you're spot on.
(trizo, 10 February 2012 13:03)

Trizo mass migration of Albanians?! Trizo are 4 proved mass migration or mass expulsion of Albanians in written story from 4 thousands years.

1. Mass emigration of Albanian in Italy(Arberesh) after Otoman invasion of Albania.
2. Massacre of Albanians WWI and hundred of villages destroyed completely at North-East Kosova.
3. Massacre of Cham Albanians and total expulsion from chameria (northwest Greece of today) after WWII.
4. Ethnic Cleansing of Milosevic army 1998-99. 1 million Kalbanian migrated and emigrated. Fortunatly this time the expulsed Albanians comes back home.

The mass migration that you claim is only in the stories of your Grandfather that has read too much colonialist story in school.

trizo

pre 12 godina

This title remind me the boiling frog story:
The boiling frog story is a widespread anecdote describing a frog slowly being boiled alive. The premise is that if a frog is placed in boiling water, it will jump out, but if it is placed in cold water that is slowly heated, it will not perceive the danger and will be cooked to death. The story is often used as a metaphor for the inability of people to react to significant changes that occur gradually.

(dori tirana, 9 February 2012 14:38)

Is this the same analogy you Albanians use for the mass migration of ethnic Albanians to the territory of Serbia and the Serbs being caught off guard and eventually somewhat powerless to defend their interests???

Because if it is then I think you're spot on.

Fluid

pre 12 godina

I should be thankful that I know many Serbs (actually my son's piano teacher is from Belgrade) and I know that not all of them are the stereotyping kind.

The unleashing of the racially charged slurs on this forum, especially coming from people who claim that are educated, clean, and live in a democratic country like Canada is appalling. Perhaps some classes of civic education would be in order...

Regardless, what is even more appalling is the fact that messages full of hate are being approved by the moderators. But in the other hand I am glad that they approved these messages, as it allows the impartial reader to see the true face of some posters here.

While this does not offend me, or any of the readers that it is targeting, these comments are really diluting the quality of the B92. B92 it is actually helping by allowing a conversion of the opportunity for an open dialogue into a witch hunt sessions and immature name calling.

P.S. Comments which include insults, indecencies, racial or ethnic hate messages and intolerance of any kind will not be published.

pss

pre 12 godina

How about the fact that the USA and NATO bombed the living s*&t out of Serbia in 1999 without the consent of the UN Security Council.
(Another Canadian Serb, 9 February 2012 18:58)

And then the UNSC turned around and enacted 1244 which forced the withdrawal of all Serbian forces and police from Kosovo, removed any political control over Kosovo, and stripped Serbia of all economic control of Kosovo, and then placed NATO in charge of security for all of Kosovo.
Sounds like an after the fact approval of the operation to me. The vote was 14 for and 1 abstain. Russia or China either one could have vetoed if they wanted, but that never happened.

sj

pre 12 godina

Was it not you that told us 100000 times that croatia will never join EU before having transferred part of its territory to Serbia ???
Tell us now, how many sqm did u get ??? let me guess NOTHING...lol
(Hans, 9 February 2012 10:35)

You should learn to read English. I have said, and this is for the THOUSANDTH time, that Croatia would NEVER join the EU until the refugee matter was settled.

You have no clues whatsoever, and that does not surprise me, about what Croatia has signed in relation to this matter. Read up on it, then make your statement.
Ask the Croats where the money is coming from to pay for what they signed.

US-Serb

pre 12 godina

We as Serbs must come together in unity and say that the only solution is to make Northern Kosovo an Autonomous state! Zivela Srpska Republika Severnog Kosova

Another Canadian Serb

pre 12 godina

Skinner

You evidently lack the knowledge of Balkan history and therefore are not qualified to make any comments against Serbians.

Your one sided view is a disgrace to humanity. The same humanity that was suffered by Serbians in the last two world wars where Serbians fought the Croations, Bosniaks, Italians, Bulgarians and Germans so that they could save the Jews from death and genocide.

Excuse me, for I forgot to mention that Serbians had to fight off the attacking hordes Muslim Albanians while fighting the invading neighboring nations.

You Skinner are a disgrace to state that I am fantasizing these known facts.
Let me guess by stating that your history books state that it was America that saved Europe from the Nazis.

EA

pre 12 godina

EA

So you say while trampling all over International Law.
(Another Canadian Serb, 9 February 2012 20:41)

No Sir/Madam,

Serbia uses the term International Law purely for propaganda. Tell me under which international law Serbia conducted ethnic cleansing of former Yugoslavia? We all know what Russia and China stands for...it doesn't need too much brain to understand.

Skinner

pre 12 godina

I have a war crime that comes to mind Skinner. How about the fact that the USA and NATO bombed the living s*&t out of Serbia in 1999 without the consent of the UN Security Council.
(Another Canadian Serb, 9 February 2012 18:58)

I am against the violation of human rights everywhere. However, sometimes action is needed to stop further atrocities from taking place. The NATO bombing of Serbia was needed in order to stop Milosevic from destroying the people of Kosovo. The NATO air campaign was by all accounts a success and cost fewer lives than a ground invasion of Serbia would have cost.

As for your other statements like Serbia being the victim of their neighbors and so forth, this is pure fantasy and like a I said before a disgrace for you to say.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

By covering these crimes up you condone the use of them in the future and continue the cycle of death and misery. You should be ashamed of yourself.
(Skinner, 9 February 2012 17:58)

Wrong. The cycle of death and misery as well as any war crime is fine as long as it is done the proper way: democratically, humanitarily, mercifully and of course with respect of human rights, Helsinki convention and all the blah-blah-blah we can hear from the noble knights of colorful revolutions and their masters.

EA

pre 12 godina

How about the fact that the USA and NATO bombed the living s*&t out of Serbia in 1999 without the consent of the UN Security Council.
(Another Canadian Serb, 9 February 2012 18:58)

Where have you been these years man? Whole the world knows that Russia will veto any military action like they did against Al Assad of Syria....It is all about Russia's influence and brotherhood. They do not give a damn about massacres against civilians....Rest assured it is not about international law especially Russia of comrade Vladimir Putin former KGB spy. Do you get that now? If not I will try again to explain it to you.

KOSO

pre 12 godina

I don't believe serbia will make candidate status in March. The ego coming out of belgrade is as if EU is trying to join Serbia, and not the other way around.

It's time to let these clowns from the partially recognized territory of Serbia aware that they aren't a super power. How is that dinar (serb rsd) to euro doing these days? 100? 102? 105?

Another Canadian Serb

pre 12 godina

Skinner

You must be unaware of the fact that the Serbs are the greatest receiver of warm crimes; especially from Serbia's immediate neighbours.

But please enlighten us Serbs on a specific war crime that you are referring to.

I have a war crime that comes to mind Skinner. How about the fact that the USA and NATO bombed the living s*&t out of Serbia in 1999 without the consent of the UN Security Council.

a New Day

pre 12 godina

It is alright to collect Worthless Trinkets like European Union Candidate Status, but only if it is collected with every word of the Serbian Constitution and the United Nations Six Point Plan for Kosovo are fully obeyed and implemented as it is the Rule of Law.
(Yet Another J S, 9 February 2012 10:02)
Even though it was NEVER voted on in the UNSC or accepted, (remember the only proof you had was someone's blog) just what is it in the 6 point plan that is not being implemented at the present. The northern crossings are covered by international agents, other than Serbs allowing for immediate control over the Mitrovica courthouse, everything else was "discussions will take place" that is what the dialogue is suppose to be doing. So even without UNSC mandate everything is being covered except for those areas being held back by Serbia.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

With disgust from EA....
(EA, 9 February 2012 14:36)

Good, that was the purpose. :)

Now why do you come here to begin with? If you can't handle to get disgusted than just stay reading New Kosova Report. Or if you want to get into brawl with Serbs, go to the Serbian language section of B92. This place supposed to be for expats and the rest-of-us who want to have some FRIENDLY chat regardless of their background about what is on the Balkan peninsula. Instead it turned into a bizarre Albanian orgy. Well, you came here with ill intents - get what you deserve and get disgusted.

Believe me, the Serbian side you are so much disgusted with is largely just a bunch of normal people who got disgusted with the Albanian mental diarhea here - and true to the rule: "if possible, do not feed the trolls; but if you do, feed them with something they can't digest". In that spirit, I am here mostly if I have bad mood. Than, I try to feed you what you hopefully can't digest.

It wasn't always that way but I learned my lesson. Do not worry, in the real life I do not have much problems with the Albanians I know. I try to avoid of course Albanians I suspect I won't like. I also believe, B92 moderators should do their job much better because the quality of this place detorriates significantly. At one moment people will come here only to barf at each other and relieve their unrelated frustrations and problems in the real life. That moment is pretty close.

Skinner

pre 12 godina

The Serbs at the Hague are innocent!

(Another Canadian Serb, 9 February 2012 14:30)

People like you that try to cover up Serbian war crimes represent the absolute darkest evil of humanity. By covering these crimes up you condone the use of them in the future and continue the cycle of death and misery. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Ratko

pre 12 godina

germans! I wouldn't expect anything else from them. Siding with their former nazi allies albanians, what else is new. But I think they will still give candidate status soon.. but that doesn't matter because Serbia will not enter EU for a loooong time. But who cares? They lie to citizens and tell them 'oh yes once in EU it will be like heaven.' There won't be eceonomic growth until a country actually starts to export something!

EA

pre 12 godina

Mendo,

You are right! Just wandering how far the insanity can go...maybe to level Anders Behren Breivik..... with such a hate how can the Serbia claim sovereignity and territorial integrity over Kosovo....

Mendo

pre 12 godina

Demi & EA

If I were you I would not scoop to the level some of the Serbian commenting here. Let them believe their propaganda as long as they are happy.

Keep the pressure EU.

dori tirana

pre 12 godina

This title remind me the boiling frog story:
The boiling frog story is a widespread anecdote describing a frog slowly being boiled alive. The premise is that if a frog is placed in boiling water, it will jump out, but if it is placed in cold water that is slowly heated, it will not perceive the danger and will be cooked to death. The story is often used as a metaphor for the inability of people to react to significant changes that occur gradually.

Let’s see in the election how many Serbs will react to the pressure.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 12 godina

Demi

The Serbs at the Hague are innocent!

Just ask the Dutch military. The same Dutch military that wishes to testify on Serbia's behalf, but are not allowed as NATO doesn't allow it.

Why is NATO exempt from prosecution of any criminal activity in the Balkans.

EA

pre 12 godina

Sorry if I missed a few words, but feel free to add lib.

Ataman,

Don't worry, I will add up some more characteristics to see how similar "Albanians and Serbs are"

- Church-manipulators, church army barracs users
- Paradise society
- Angels
- Undisputable truth-teller
- Dependent from mother Russia
- Force-coming from Russia with love


It's still not the full list, but coming somewhat closer


With disgust from EA....

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

Bulgarians say that since Bulgaria entered EU there have been minor and gradual changes, and it isn't clear if those changes are the result of entering EU or they just go by themselves.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

pss, people in Kosovo live in worse conditions than in central Serbia, yet KAlb "politicians" don't want to negotiate complomise solution with Serbia, your politicians only think about their pride, they don't think about healthcare, modern school systems, economic opportunities for their people... What's your attitude to it?

How kind of you to care about Serbian people well-being much more than about KAlbs well-being.
(aaayyy, 8 February 2012 21:36)
In what possible way are you saying any compromise with Serbia would be a boost for Kosovo? All that would be accomplished is that foreign money flowing into Pristina would be redirected through Belgrade to be siphoned off first. Remember this mess was caused by the fact that Belgrade destroyed all the infrastructure in Kosovo in order to drive the Albanians out.
Comparing Serbia's joining the EU with Kosovo joining Serbia is insane!
(pss, 9 February 2012 12:07)

Compromise with Serbia would improve regional relationship and bring KAlbs to EU if this is what you want.

DontMakeMeLaugh

pre 12 godina

The only recognition Albanians in KiM can have, is that they are a criminal society, run by mafia clan members that are involved in ever horrible crime imaginable. Ask anyone in the Balkans, or the rest of Europe, and see what they say about you guys. There is your recognition.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

Sorry if I missed a few words, but feel free to add lib.
(Another Canadian Serb, 9 February 2012 12:18)

- Church-burner
- Corrupt
- Mafiosi
- Honesty-challenged
- Dependent from abroad-donations of diaspora
- Nationalist to the extreme
- Expanding at other's costs
- Parasiting on the other people / nations

It's still not the full list, but coming somewhat closer

Demi

pre 12 godina

The only recognition that Prishtina will receive can be summarized in the the following words.

Poor
Dirty
Crime Infested
Backwards
Uneducated
Organ Snatchers
Terrorist

and most of all

COWARDS

Sorry if I missed a few words, but feel free to add lib.
(Another Canadian Serb, 9 February 2012 12:18)


I could say the same about Serbia. But I won't since I am more mature than you.

You can just go to Haag and see how many serbs you have there infected with the words you wrote above.

History and proof speak for it self. What you serbs say dosen't matter.

The free world knowes.......

EA

pre 12 godina

Another Canadian Serb,

Are you suggesting to Pejoni that under Serbian sovereignity


Prishtina will receive an absute recognition which can be summarized in the the following words.

Rich
Tidy

Crime FREE

Progressive

Organ Donnors

Peacelovers orthodox

and most of all

Brave


Happy if I missed a few words, but feel free to add lib.

Like it used to be under Serbian rule....

Another Canadian Serb

pre 12 godina

It's still not the full list, but coming somewhat closer
(Ataman, 9 February 2012 13:05)

Now let's bring to light some great attributes.

- Extremely Unathletic
- Great Manipulators
- Superior Stone Throwers
- Experts at Deceit

Sorry, but I ran out of time as I have to head out to work. I'll play catch up later.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 12 godina

Pejoni

The only recognition that Prishtina will receive can be summarized in the the following words.

Poor
Dirty
Crime Infested
Backwards
Uneducated
Organ Snatchers
Terrorist

and most of all

COWARDS

Sorry if I missed a few words, but feel free to add lib.

Fluid

pre 12 godina

Wrong, the pressure is not increasing.

The pressure is the same as it was three months ago. Maybe the pressure is building up in Belgrade while the deadline is approaching?

I suggest that Serbia apply for full membership in the Non-Aligned movement. Although the list of Serbia's friends on that list is shrinking (Egypt, Lybia, Yemen, Tunisia, and other dictatorships that fell or are about to fall), at least its ego won't be insulted there...

b.v. bakic

pre 12 godina

This ad libitum and ad nauseam disregard for UN SC decisions is amazing and shows a degree of arrogance that could ultimately well lead towards a larger scale international conflict.

Pejoni

pre 12 godina

To hell with neutrality, Prishtina shouldnt accept anything less then being recognized as a Republic, and If Belgrade contiunes pushing to fulfill Milosevic's dream of Greater Serbia then its nothing left to discuss.

PRO-SERBIA

pre 12 godina

To Tadic and Company. then dont let pressure beat you. Serbia will survive without an EU seat. dont let "blackmail" overcome your senses.

the whole Kosovo province cannot be an "exchange gift" for an EU seat.

EA

pre 12 godina

To whom it may concern as they might be few...))

"By not agreeing and not subordinating to this pressure, Serbia keeps it's right and sovereignty over its territory in the sout-west of Serbia."

How? By apply for visa/permission to enter Kosovo? Just as an example...)))


"To resist this imperial politics is not only important for serbia, it is important to keep the international law alive."

Did you mean Russia or China law?

It is "very difficult" to understand you guys...What do you think about Slobodan Milloshevic and his legacy? He was great to apply "international law" I meant Russian and Chinese law...)

winston

pre 12 godina

Quote Germany and the EU, "We, as a Union, have more problems than we can count, on all fronts. Our beloved Union will more than likely change considerably in short time, and may even dissolve completely. But we will pretend that we no problems, when we demand conditions from Serbia, who's government is still blindly trying to get membership in our failing Union. Go figure"? Yes, go figure DS, etal.? What the hell is this dying Union going to offer Serbia, that you are will to give away your historic land in our Southern province of KiM?

lowe

pre 12 godina

Serbia should look at Turkey which got EU candidature way back in 1999 and has been left high and dry since then. Getting EU candidature can really mean getting nothing at all, and if Serbia is to be so foolish as to give in to all these demands for nothing in the end .... well, all I can say then would be that she oughta have known better!

Yet Another J S

pre 12 godina

It is alright to collect Worthless Trinkets like European Union Candidate Status, but only if it is collected with every word of the Serbian Constitution and the United Nations Six Point Plan for Kosovo are fully obeyed and implemented as it is the Rule of Law.

Hans

pre 12 godina

For those that have slept through the last couple of years, the EU is screwed in every way but these articles keep on coming out as if nothing has happened and the west is living the “life of Riley.
Here is a suggestion, let the Croats join heaven on earth and we will see how many money trees the EU plants in Zagreb.
(sj, 9 February 2012 09:41)

Was it not you that told us 100000 times that croatia will never join EU before having transferred part of its territory to Serbia ???
Tell us now, how many sqm did u get ??? let me guess NOTHING...lol

Dr. Alexander S. Neu - Germany Advisor for international Relations

pre 12 godina

It is important for Serbia and for many countries not to surrender. Germany an its allies try step for step to materialize the so called independence of Kosovo. By not agreeing and not subordinating to this pressure, Serbia keeps it's right and sovereignty over its territory in the sout-west of Serbia. This is the reason why the west is pushing so hard. To resist this imperial politics is not only important for serbia, it is important to keep the international law alive. The integration into the EU might be important for Serbia, but to keep the country together and not to sell it out is much more important.

sj

pre 12 godina

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ daily pressure; must meet deadlines otherwise no paradise; Serbia will not get candidate status and so it goes on and on.
For those that have slept through the last couple of years, the EU is screwed in every way but these articles keep on coming out as if nothing has happened and the west is living the “life of Riley.
Here is a suggestion, let the Croats join heaven on earth and we will see how many money trees the EU plants in Zagreb.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 12 godina

Demi

The Serbs at the Hague are innocent!

Just ask the Dutch military. The same Dutch military that wishes to testify on Serbia's behalf, but are not allowed as NATO doesn't allow it.

Why is NATO exempt from prosecution of any criminal activity in the Balkans.

EA

pre 12 godina

To whom it may concern as they might be few...))

"By not agreeing and not subordinating to this pressure, Serbia keeps it's right and sovereignty over its territory in the sout-west of Serbia."

How? By apply for visa/permission to enter Kosovo? Just as an example...)))


"To resist this imperial politics is not only important for serbia, it is important to keep the international law alive."

Did you mean Russia or China law?

It is "very difficult" to understand you guys...What do you think about Slobodan Milloshevic and his legacy? He was great to apply "international law" I meant Russian and Chinese law...)

Hans

pre 12 godina

For those that have slept through the last couple of years, the EU is screwed in every way but these articles keep on coming out as if nothing has happened and the west is living the “life of Riley.
Here is a suggestion, let the Croats join heaven on earth and we will see how many money trees the EU plants in Zagreb.
(sj, 9 February 2012 09:41)

Was it not you that told us 100000 times that croatia will never join EU before having transferred part of its territory to Serbia ???
Tell us now, how many sqm did u get ??? let me guess NOTHING...lol

Demi

pre 12 godina

The only recognition that Prishtina will receive can be summarized in the the following words.

Poor
Dirty
Crime Infested
Backwards
Uneducated
Organ Snatchers
Terrorist

and most of all

COWARDS

Sorry if I missed a few words, but feel free to add lib.
(Another Canadian Serb, 9 February 2012 12:18)


I could say the same about Serbia. But I won't since I am more mature than you.

You can just go to Haag and see how many serbs you have there infected with the words you wrote above.

History and proof speak for it self. What you serbs say dosen't matter.

The free world knowes.......

Mendo

pre 12 godina

Demi & EA

If I were you I would not scoop to the level some of the Serbian commenting here. Let them believe their propaganda as long as they are happy.

Keep the pressure EU.

Pejoni

pre 12 godina

To hell with neutrality, Prishtina shouldnt accept anything less then being recognized as a Republic, and If Belgrade contiunes pushing to fulfill Milosevic's dream of Greater Serbia then its nothing left to discuss.

pss

pre 12 godina

How about the fact that the USA and NATO bombed the living s*&t out of Serbia in 1999 without the consent of the UN Security Council.
(Another Canadian Serb, 9 February 2012 18:58)

And then the UNSC turned around and enacted 1244 which forced the withdrawal of all Serbian forces and police from Kosovo, removed any political control over Kosovo, and stripped Serbia of all economic control of Kosovo, and then placed NATO in charge of security for all of Kosovo.
Sounds like an after the fact approval of the operation to me. The vote was 14 for and 1 abstain. Russia or China either one could have vetoed if they wanted, but that never happened.

Fluid

pre 12 godina

Wrong, the pressure is not increasing.

The pressure is the same as it was three months ago. Maybe the pressure is building up in Belgrade while the deadline is approaching?

I suggest that Serbia apply for full membership in the Non-Aligned movement. Although the list of Serbia's friends on that list is shrinking (Egypt, Lybia, Yemen, Tunisia, and other dictatorships that fell or are about to fall), at least its ego won't be insulted there...

EA

pre 12 godina

Mendo,

You are right! Just wandering how far the insanity can go...maybe to level Anders Behren Breivik..... with such a hate how can the Serbia claim sovereignity and territorial integrity over Kosovo....

Skinner

pre 12 godina

The Serbs at the Hague are innocent!

(Another Canadian Serb, 9 February 2012 14:30)

People like you that try to cover up Serbian war crimes represent the absolute darkest evil of humanity. By covering these crimes up you condone the use of them in the future and continue the cycle of death and misery. You should be ashamed of yourself.

EA

pre 12 godina

EA

So you say while trampling all over International Law.
(Another Canadian Serb, 9 February 2012 20:41)

No Sir/Madam,

Serbia uses the term International Law purely for propaganda. Tell me under which international law Serbia conducted ethnic cleansing of former Yugoslavia? We all know what Russia and China stands for...it doesn't need too much brain to understand.

dori tirana

pre 12 godina

Is this the same analogy you Albanians use for the mass migration of ethnic Albanians to the territory of Serbia and the Serbs being caught off guard and eventually somewhat powerless to defend their interests???

Because if it is then I think you're spot on.
(trizo, 10 February 2012 13:03)

Trizo mass migration of Albanians?! Trizo are 4 proved mass migration or mass expulsion of Albanians in written story from 4 thousands years.

1. Mass emigration of Albanian in Italy(Arberesh) after Otoman invasion of Albania.
2. Massacre of Albanians WWI and hundred of villages destroyed completely at North-East Kosova.
3. Massacre of Cham Albanians and total expulsion from chameria (northwest Greece of today) after WWII.
4. Ethnic Cleansing of Milosevic army 1998-99. 1 million Kalbanian migrated and emigrated. Fortunatly this time the expulsed Albanians comes back home.

The mass migration that you claim is only in the stories of your Grandfather that has read too much colonialist story in school.

Dr. Alexander S. Neu - Germany Advisor for international Relations

pre 12 godina

It is important for Serbia and for many countries not to surrender. Germany an its allies try step for step to materialize the so called independence of Kosovo. By not agreeing and not subordinating to this pressure, Serbia keeps it's right and sovereignty over its territory in the sout-west of Serbia. This is the reason why the west is pushing so hard. To resist this imperial politics is not only important for serbia, it is important to keep the international law alive. The integration into the EU might be important for Serbia, but to keep the country together and not to sell it out is much more important.

sj

pre 12 godina

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ daily pressure; must meet deadlines otherwise no paradise; Serbia will not get candidate status and so it goes on and on.
For those that have slept through the last couple of years, the EU is screwed in every way but these articles keep on coming out as if nothing has happened and the west is living the “life of Riley.
Here is a suggestion, let the Croats join heaven on earth and we will see how many money trees the EU plants in Zagreb.

EA

pre 12 godina

Another Canadian Serb,

Are you suggesting to Pejoni that under Serbian sovereignity


Prishtina will receive an absute recognition which can be summarized in the the following words.

Rich
Tidy

Crime FREE

Progressive

Organ Donnors

Peacelovers orthodox

and most of all

Brave


Happy if I missed a few words, but feel free to add lib.

Like it used to be under Serbian rule....

Fluid

pre 12 godina

I should be thankful that I know many Serbs (actually my son's piano teacher is from Belgrade) and I know that not all of them are the stereotyping kind.

The unleashing of the racially charged slurs on this forum, especially coming from people who claim that are educated, clean, and live in a democratic country like Canada is appalling. Perhaps some classes of civic education would be in order...

Regardless, what is even more appalling is the fact that messages full of hate are being approved by the moderators. But in the other hand I am glad that they approved these messages, as it allows the impartial reader to see the true face of some posters here.

While this does not offend me, or any of the readers that it is targeting, these comments are really diluting the quality of the B92. B92 it is actually helping by allowing a conversion of the opportunity for an open dialogue into a witch hunt sessions and immature name calling.

P.S. Comments which include insults, indecencies, racial or ethnic hate messages and intolerance of any kind will not be published.

Skinner

pre 12 godina

I have a war crime that comes to mind Skinner. How about the fact that the USA and NATO bombed the living s*&t out of Serbia in 1999 without the consent of the UN Security Council.
(Another Canadian Serb, 9 February 2012 18:58)

I am against the violation of human rights everywhere. However, sometimes action is needed to stop further atrocities from taking place. The NATO bombing of Serbia was needed in order to stop Milosevic from destroying the people of Kosovo. The NATO air campaign was by all accounts a success and cost fewer lives than a ground invasion of Serbia would have cost.

As for your other statements like Serbia being the victim of their neighbors and so forth, this is pure fantasy and like a I said before a disgrace for you to say.

dori tirana

pre 12 godina

This title remind me the boiling frog story:
The boiling frog story is a widespread anecdote describing a frog slowly being boiled alive. The premise is that if a frog is placed in boiling water, it will jump out, but if it is placed in cold water that is slowly heated, it will not perceive the danger and will be cooked to death. The story is often used as a metaphor for the inability of people to react to significant changes that occur gradually.

Let’s see in the election how many Serbs will react to the pressure.

PRO-SERBIA

pre 12 godina

To Tadic and Company. then dont let pressure beat you. Serbia will survive without an EU seat. dont let "blackmail" overcome your senses.

the whole Kosovo province cannot be an "exchange gift" for an EU seat.

EA

pre 12 godina

Sorry if I missed a few words, but feel free to add lib.

Ataman,

Don't worry, I will add up some more characteristics to see how similar "Albanians and Serbs are"

- Church-manipulators, church army barracs users
- Paradise society
- Angels
- Undisputable truth-teller
- Dependent from mother Russia
- Force-coming from Russia with love


It's still not the full list, but coming somewhat closer


With disgust from EA....

Another Canadian Serb

pre 12 godina

Pejoni

The only recognition that Prishtina will receive can be summarized in the the following words.

Poor
Dirty
Crime Infested
Backwards
Uneducated
Organ Snatchers
Terrorist

and most of all

COWARDS

Sorry if I missed a few words, but feel free to add lib.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

Sorry if I missed a few words, but feel free to add lib.
(Another Canadian Serb, 9 February 2012 12:18)

- Church-burner
- Corrupt
- Mafiosi
- Honesty-challenged
- Dependent from abroad-donations of diaspora
- Nationalist to the extreme
- Expanding at other's costs
- Parasiting on the other people / nations

It's still not the full list, but coming somewhat closer

KOSO

pre 12 godina

I don't believe serbia will make candidate status in March. The ego coming out of belgrade is as if EU is trying to join Serbia, and not the other way around.

It's time to let these clowns from the partially recognized territory of Serbia aware that they aren't a super power. How is that dinar (serb rsd) to euro doing these days? 100? 102? 105?

b.v. bakic

pre 12 godina

This ad libitum and ad nauseam disregard for UN SC decisions is amazing and shows a degree of arrogance that could ultimately well lead towards a larger scale international conflict.

Yet Another J S

pre 12 godina

It is alright to collect Worthless Trinkets like European Union Candidate Status, but only if it is collected with every word of the Serbian Constitution and the United Nations Six Point Plan for Kosovo are fully obeyed and implemented as it is the Rule of Law.

lowe

pre 12 godina

Serbia should look at Turkey which got EU candidature way back in 1999 and has been left high and dry since then. Getting EU candidature can really mean getting nothing at all, and if Serbia is to be so foolish as to give in to all these demands for nothing in the end .... well, all I can say then would be that she oughta have known better!

EA

pre 12 godina

How about the fact that the USA and NATO bombed the living s*&t out of Serbia in 1999 without the consent of the UN Security Council.
(Another Canadian Serb, 9 February 2012 18:58)

Where have you been these years man? Whole the world knows that Russia will veto any military action like they did against Al Assad of Syria....It is all about Russia's influence and brotherhood. They do not give a damn about massacres against civilians....Rest assured it is not about international law especially Russia of comrade Vladimir Putin former KGB spy. Do you get that now? If not I will try again to explain it to you.

a New Day

pre 12 godina

It is alright to collect Worthless Trinkets like European Union Candidate Status, but only if it is collected with every word of the Serbian Constitution and the United Nations Six Point Plan for Kosovo are fully obeyed and implemented as it is the Rule of Law.
(Yet Another J S, 9 February 2012 10:02)
Even though it was NEVER voted on in the UNSC or accepted, (remember the only proof you had was someone's blog) just what is it in the 6 point plan that is not being implemented at the present. The northern crossings are covered by international agents, other than Serbs allowing for immediate control over the Mitrovica courthouse, everything else was "discussions will take place" that is what the dialogue is suppose to be doing. So even without UNSC mandate everything is being covered except for those areas being held back by Serbia.

winston

pre 12 godina

Quote Germany and the EU, "We, as a Union, have more problems than we can count, on all fronts. Our beloved Union will more than likely change considerably in short time, and may even dissolve completely. But we will pretend that we no problems, when we demand conditions from Serbia, who's government is still blindly trying to get membership in our failing Union. Go figure"? Yes, go figure DS, etal.? What the hell is this dying Union going to offer Serbia, that you are will to give away your historic land in our Southern province of KiM?

Ataman

pre 12 godina

By covering these crimes up you condone the use of them in the future and continue the cycle of death and misery. You should be ashamed of yourself.
(Skinner, 9 February 2012 17:58)

Wrong. The cycle of death and misery as well as any war crime is fine as long as it is done the proper way: democratically, humanitarily, mercifully and of course with respect of human rights, Helsinki convention and all the blah-blah-blah we can hear from the noble knights of colorful revolutions and their masters.

DontMakeMeLaugh

pre 12 godina

The only recognition Albanians in KiM can have, is that they are a criminal society, run by mafia clan members that are involved in ever horrible crime imaginable. Ask anyone in the Balkans, or the rest of Europe, and see what they say about you guys. There is your recognition.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

With disgust from EA....
(EA, 9 February 2012 14:36)

Good, that was the purpose. :)

Now why do you come here to begin with? If you can't handle to get disgusted than just stay reading New Kosova Report. Or if you want to get into brawl with Serbs, go to the Serbian language section of B92. This place supposed to be for expats and the rest-of-us who want to have some FRIENDLY chat regardless of their background about what is on the Balkan peninsula. Instead it turned into a bizarre Albanian orgy. Well, you came here with ill intents - get what you deserve and get disgusted.

Believe me, the Serbian side you are so much disgusted with is largely just a bunch of normal people who got disgusted with the Albanian mental diarhea here - and true to the rule: "if possible, do not feed the trolls; but if you do, feed them with something they can't digest". In that spirit, I am here mostly if I have bad mood. Than, I try to feed you what you hopefully can't digest.

It wasn't always that way but I learned my lesson. Do not worry, in the real life I do not have much problems with the Albanians I know. I try to avoid of course Albanians I suspect I won't like. I also believe, B92 moderators should do their job much better because the quality of this place detorriates significantly. At one moment people will come here only to barf at each other and relieve their unrelated frustrations and problems in the real life. That moment is pretty close.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 12 godina

It's still not the full list, but coming somewhat closer
(Ataman, 9 February 2012 13:05)

Now let's bring to light some great attributes.

- Extremely Unathletic
- Great Manipulators
- Superior Stone Throwers
- Experts at Deceit

Sorry, but I ran out of time as I have to head out to work. I'll play catch up later.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

Bulgarians say that since Bulgaria entered EU there have been minor and gradual changes, and it isn't clear if those changes are the result of entering EU or they just go by themselves.

Ratko

pre 12 godina

germans! I wouldn't expect anything else from them. Siding with their former nazi allies albanians, what else is new. But I think they will still give candidate status soon.. but that doesn't matter because Serbia will not enter EU for a loooong time. But who cares? They lie to citizens and tell them 'oh yes once in EU it will be like heaven.' There won't be eceonomic growth until a country actually starts to export something!

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

pss, people in Kosovo live in worse conditions than in central Serbia, yet KAlb "politicians" don't want to negotiate complomise solution with Serbia, your politicians only think about their pride, they don't think about healthcare, modern school systems, economic opportunities for their people... What's your attitude to it?

How kind of you to care about Serbian people well-being much more than about KAlbs well-being.
(aaayyy, 8 February 2012 21:36)
In what possible way are you saying any compromise with Serbia would be a boost for Kosovo? All that would be accomplished is that foreign money flowing into Pristina would be redirected through Belgrade to be siphoned off first. Remember this mess was caused by the fact that Belgrade destroyed all the infrastructure in Kosovo in order to drive the Albanians out.
Comparing Serbia's joining the EU with Kosovo joining Serbia is insane!
(pss, 9 February 2012 12:07)

Compromise with Serbia would improve regional relationship and bring KAlbs to EU if this is what you want.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 12 godina

Skinner

You evidently lack the knowledge of Balkan history and therefore are not qualified to make any comments against Serbians.

Your one sided view is a disgrace to humanity. The same humanity that was suffered by Serbians in the last two world wars where Serbians fought the Croations, Bosniaks, Italians, Bulgarians and Germans so that they could save the Jews from death and genocide.

Excuse me, for I forgot to mention that Serbians had to fight off the attacking hordes Muslim Albanians while fighting the invading neighboring nations.

You Skinner are a disgrace to state that I am fantasizing these known facts.
Let me guess by stating that your history books state that it was America that saved Europe from the Nazis.

US-Serb

pre 12 godina

We as Serbs must come together in unity and say that the only solution is to make Northern Kosovo an Autonomous state! Zivela Srpska Republika Severnog Kosova

Another Canadian Serb

pre 12 godina

Skinner

You must be unaware of the fact that the Serbs are the greatest receiver of warm crimes; especially from Serbia's immediate neighbours.

But please enlighten us Serbs on a specific war crime that you are referring to.

I have a war crime that comes to mind Skinner. How about the fact that the USA and NATO bombed the living s*&t out of Serbia in 1999 without the consent of the UN Security Council.

sj

pre 12 godina

Was it not you that told us 100000 times that croatia will never join EU before having transferred part of its territory to Serbia ???
Tell us now, how many sqm did u get ??? let me guess NOTHING...lol
(Hans, 9 February 2012 10:35)

You should learn to read English. I have said, and this is for the THOUSANDTH time, that Croatia would NEVER join the EU until the refugee matter was settled.

You have no clues whatsoever, and that does not surprise me, about what Croatia has signed in relation to this matter. Read up on it, then make your statement.
Ask the Croats where the money is coming from to pay for what they signed.

trizo

pre 12 godina

This title remind me the boiling frog story:
The boiling frog story is a widespread anecdote describing a frog slowly being boiled alive. The premise is that if a frog is placed in boiling water, it will jump out, but if it is placed in cold water that is slowly heated, it will not perceive the danger and will be cooked to death. The story is often used as a metaphor for the inability of people to react to significant changes that occur gradually.

(dori tirana, 9 February 2012 14:38)

Is this the same analogy you Albanians use for the mass migration of ethnic Albanians to the territory of Serbia and the Serbs being caught off guard and eventually somewhat powerless to defend their interests???

Because if it is then I think you're spot on.

icj1

pre 12 godina

I have a war crime that comes to mind Skinner. How about the fact that the USA and NATO bombed the living s*&t out of Serbia in 1999 without the consent of the UN Security Council.
(Another Canadian Serb, 9 February 2012 18:58)

You are totally off track, dear. USA and NATO, by definition, cannot committ a war crime.

Peggy

pre 12 godina

"Regardless, what is even more appalling is the fact that messages full of hate are being approved by the moderators. But in the other hand I am glad that they approved these messages, as it allows the impartial reader to see the true face of some posters here."
================================

For once I agree with an Albanian. There are so many hateful and sarcastic posts coming from Albanians and their one man Croatian cheer squad (Lenard) that it really does show them as they really are.

Dr. Alexander S. Neu - Germany Advisor for international Relations

pre 12 godina

It is important for Serbia and for many countries not to surrender. Germany an its allies try step for step to materialize the so called independence of Kosovo. By not agreeing and not subordinating to this pressure, Serbia keeps it's right and sovereignty over its territory in the sout-west of Serbia. This is the reason why the west is pushing so hard. To resist this imperial politics is not only important for serbia, it is important to keep the international law alive. The integration into the EU might be important for Serbia, but to keep the country together and not to sell it out is much more important.

sj

pre 12 godina

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ daily pressure; must meet deadlines otherwise no paradise; Serbia will not get candidate status and so it goes on and on.
For those that have slept through the last couple of years, the EU is screwed in every way but these articles keep on coming out as if nothing has happened and the west is living the “life of Riley.
Here is a suggestion, let the Croats join heaven on earth and we will see how many money trees the EU plants in Zagreb.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 12 godina

Pejoni

The only recognition that Prishtina will receive can be summarized in the the following words.

Poor
Dirty
Crime Infested
Backwards
Uneducated
Organ Snatchers
Terrorist

and most of all

COWARDS

Sorry if I missed a few words, but feel free to add lib.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

Sorry if I missed a few words, but feel free to add lib.
(Another Canadian Serb, 9 February 2012 12:18)

- Church-burner
- Corrupt
- Mafiosi
- Honesty-challenged
- Dependent from abroad-donations of diaspora
- Nationalist to the extreme
- Expanding at other's costs
- Parasiting on the other people / nations

It's still not the full list, but coming somewhat closer

winston

pre 12 godina

Quote Germany and the EU, "We, as a Union, have more problems than we can count, on all fronts. Our beloved Union will more than likely change considerably in short time, and may even dissolve completely. But we will pretend that we no problems, when we demand conditions from Serbia, who's government is still blindly trying to get membership in our failing Union. Go figure"? Yes, go figure DS, etal.? What the hell is this dying Union going to offer Serbia, that you are will to give away your historic land in our Southern province of KiM?

lowe

pre 12 godina

Serbia should look at Turkey which got EU candidature way back in 1999 and has been left high and dry since then. Getting EU candidature can really mean getting nothing at all, and if Serbia is to be so foolish as to give in to all these demands for nothing in the end .... well, all I can say then would be that she oughta have known better!

Another Canadian Serb

pre 12 godina

It's still not the full list, but coming somewhat closer
(Ataman, 9 February 2012 13:05)

Now let's bring to light some great attributes.

- Extremely Unathletic
- Great Manipulators
- Superior Stone Throwers
- Experts at Deceit

Sorry, but I ran out of time as I have to head out to work. I'll play catch up later.

Yet Another J S

pre 12 godina

It is alright to collect Worthless Trinkets like European Union Candidate Status, but only if it is collected with every word of the Serbian Constitution and the United Nations Six Point Plan for Kosovo are fully obeyed and implemented as it is the Rule of Law.

Skinner

pre 12 godina

The Serbs at the Hague are innocent!

(Another Canadian Serb, 9 February 2012 14:30)

People like you that try to cover up Serbian war crimes represent the absolute darkest evil of humanity. By covering these crimes up you condone the use of them in the future and continue the cycle of death and misery. You should be ashamed of yourself.

PRO-SERBIA

pre 12 godina

To Tadic and Company. then dont let pressure beat you. Serbia will survive without an EU seat. dont let "blackmail" overcome your senses.

the whole Kosovo province cannot be an "exchange gift" for an EU seat.

DontMakeMeLaugh

pre 12 godina

The only recognition Albanians in KiM can have, is that they are a criminal society, run by mafia clan members that are involved in ever horrible crime imaginable. Ask anyone in the Balkans, or the rest of Europe, and see what they say about you guys. There is your recognition.

US-Serb

pre 12 godina

We as Serbs must come together in unity and say that the only solution is to make Northern Kosovo an Autonomous state! Zivela Srpska Republika Severnog Kosova

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

pss, people in Kosovo live in worse conditions than in central Serbia, yet KAlb "politicians" don't want to negotiate complomise solution with Serbia, your politicians only think about their pride, they don't think about healthcare, modern school systems, economic opportunities for their people... What's your attitude to it?

How kind of you to care about Serbian people well-being much more than about KAlbs well-being.
(aaayyy, 8 February 2012 21:36)
In what possible way are you saying any compromise with Serbia would be a boost for Kosovo? All that would be accomplished is that foreign money flowing into Pristina would be redirected through Belgrade to be siphoned off first. Remember this mess was caused by the fact that Belgrade destroyed all the infrastructure in Kosovo in order to drive the Albanians out.
Comparing Serbia's joining the EU with Kosovo joining Serbia is insane!
(pss, 9 February 2012 12:07)

Compromise with Serbia would improve regional relationship and bring KAlbs to EU if this is what you want.

trizo

pre 12 godina

This title remind me the boiling frog story:
The boiling frog story is a widespread anecdote describing a frog slowly being boiled alive. The premise is that if a frog is placed in boiling water, it will jump out, but if it is placed in cold water that is slowly heated, it will not perceive the danger and will be cooked to death. The story is often used as a metaphor for the inability of people to react to significant changes that occur gradually.

(dori tirana, 9 February 2012 14:38)

Is this the same analogy you Albanians use for the mass migration of ethnic Albanians to the territory of Serbia and the Serbs being caught off guard and eventually somewhat powerless to defend their interests???

Because if it is then I think you're spot on.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 12 godina

Demi

The Serbs at the Hague are innocent!

Just ask the Dutch military. The same Dutch military that wishes to testify on Serbia's behalf, but are not allowed as NATO doesn't allow it.

Why is NATO exempt from prosecution of any criminal activity in the Balkans.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

By covering these crimes up you condone the use of them in the future and continue the cycle of death and misery. You should be ashamed of yourself.
(Skinner, 9 February 2012 17:58)

Wrong. The cycle of death and misery as well as any war crime is fine as long as it is done the proper way: democratically, humanitarily, mercifully and of course with respect of human rights, Helsinki convention and all the blah-blah-blah we can hear from the noble knights of colorful revolutions and their masters.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 12 godina

Skinner

You evidently lack the knowledge of Balkan history and therefore are not qualified to make any comments against Serbians.

Your one sided view is a disgrace to humanity. The same humanity that was suffered by Serbians in the last two world wars where Serbians fought the Croations, Bosniaks, Italians, Bulgarians and Germans so that they could save the Jews from death and genocide.

Excuse me, for I forgot to mention that Serbians had to fight off the attacking hordes Muslim Albanians while fighting the invading neighboring nations.

You Skinner are a disgrace to state that I am fantasizing these known facts.
Let me guess by stating that your history books state that it was America that saved Europe from the Nazis.

Ratko

pre 12 godina

germans! I wouldn't expect anything else from them. Siding with their former nazi allies albanians, what else is new. But I think they will still give candidate status soon.. but that doesn't matter because Serbia will not enter EU for a loooong time. But who cares? They lie to citizens and tell them 'oh yes once in EU it will be like heaven.' There won't be eceonomic growth until a country actually starts to export something!

Pejoni

pre 12 godina

To hell with neutrality, Prishtina shouldnt accept anything less then being recognized as a Republic, and If Belgrade contiunes pushing to fulfill Milosevic's dream of Greater Serbia then its nothing left to discuss.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

With disgust from EA....
(EA, 9 February 2012 14:36)

Good, that was the purpose. :)

Now why do you come here to begin with? If you can't handle to get disgusted than just stay reading New Kosova Report. Or if you want to get into brawl with Serbs, go to the Serbian language section of B92. This place supposed to be for expats and the rest-of-us who want to have some FRIENDLY chat regardless of their background about what is on the Balkan peninsula. Instead it turned into a bizarre Albanian orgy. Well, you came here with ill intents - get what you deserve and get disgusted.

Believe me, the Serbian side you are so much disgusted with is largely just a bunch of normal people who got disgusted with the Albanian mental diarhea here - and true to the rule: "if possible, do not feed the trolls; but if you do, feed them with something they can't digest". In that spirit, I am here mostly if I have bad mood. Than, I try to feed you what you hopefully can't digest.

It wasn't always that way but I learned my lesson. Do not worry, in the real life I do not have much problems with the Albanians I know. I try to avoid of course Albanians I suspect I won't like. I also believe, B92 moderators should do their job much better because the quality of this place detorriates significantly. At one moment people will come here only to barf at each other and relieve their unrelated frustrations and problems in the real life. That moment is pretty close.

sj

pre 12 godina

Was it not you that told us 100000 times that croatia will never join EU before having transferred part of its territory to Serbia ???
Tell us now, how many sqm did u get ??? let me guess NOTHING...lol
(Hans, 9 February 2012 10:35)

You should learn to read English. I have said, and this is for the THOUSANDTH time, that Croatia would NEVER join the EU until the refugee matter was settled.

You have no clues whatsoever, and that does not surprise me, about what Croatia has signed in relation to this matter. Read up on it, then make your statement.
Ask the Croats where the money is coming from to pay for what they signed.

EA

pre 12 godina

To whom it may concern as they might be few...))

"By not agreeing and not subordinating to this pressure, Serbia keeps it's right and sovereignty over its territory in the sout-west of Serbia."

How? By apply for visa/permission to enter Kosovo? Just as an example...)))


"To resist this imperial politics is not only important for serbia, it is important to keep the international law alive."

Did you mean Russia or China law?

It is "very difficult" to understand you guys...What do you think about Slobodan Milloshevic and his legacy? He was great to apply "international law" I meant Russian and Chinese law...)

Another Canadian Serb

pre 12 godina

Skinner

You must be unaware of the fact that the Serbs are the greatest receiver of warm crimes; especially from Serbia's immediate neighbours.

But please enlighten us Serbs on a specific war crime that you are referring to.

I have a war crime that comes to mind Skinner. How about the fact that the USA and NATO bombed the living s*&t out of Serbia in 1999 without the consent of the UN Security Council.

Hans

pre 12 godina

For those that have slept through the last couple of years, the EU is screwed in every way but these articles keep on coming out as if nothing has happened and the west is living the “life of Riley.
Here is a suggestion, let the Croats join heaven on earth and we will see how many money trees the EU plants in Zagreb.
(sj, 9 February 2012 09:41)

Was it not you that told us 100000 times that croatia will never join EU before having transferred part of its territory to Serbia ???
Tell us now, how many sqm did u get ??? let me guess NOTHING...lol

Demi

pre 12 godina

The only recognition that Prishtina will receive can be summarized in the the following words.

Poor
Dirty
Crime Infested
Backwards
Uneducated
Organ Snatchers
Terrorist

and most of all

COWARDS

Sorry if I missed a few words, but feel free to add lib.
(Another Canadian Serb, 9 February 2012 12:18)


I could say the same about Serbia. But I won't since I am more mature than you.

You can just go to Haag and see how many serbs you have there infected with the words you wrote above.

History and proof speak for it self. What you serbs say dosen't matter.

The free world knowes.......

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

Bulgarians say that since Bulgaria entered EU there have been minor and gradual changes, and it isn't clear if those changes are the result of entering EU or they just go by themselves.

b.v. bakic

pre 12 godina

This ad libitum and ad nauseam disregard for UN SC decisions is amazing and shows a degree of arrogance that could ultimately well lead towards a larger scale international conflict.

Skinner

pre 12 godina

I have a war crime that comes to mind Skinner. How about the fact that the USA and NATO bombed the living s*&t out of Serbia in 1999 without the consent of the UN Security Council.
(Another Canadian Serb, 9 February 2012 18:58)

I am against the violation of human rights everywhere. However, sometimes action is needed to stop further atrocities from taking place. The NATO bombing of Serbia was needed in order to stop Milosevic from destroying the people of Kosovo. The NATO air campaign was by all accounts a success and cost fewer lives than a ground invasion of Serbia would have cost.

As for your other statements like Serbia being the victim of their neighbors and so forth, this is pure fantasy and like a I said before a disgrace for you to say.

EA

pre 12 godina

Another Canadian Serb,

Are you suggesting to Pejoni that under Serbian sovereignity


Prishtina will receive an absute recognition which can be summarized in the the following words.

Rich
Tidy

Crime FREE

Progressive

Organ Donnors

Peacelovers orthodox

and most of all

Brave


Happy if I missed a few words, but feel free to add lib.

Like it used to be under Serbian rule....

Mendo

pre 12 godina

Demi & EA

If I were you I would not scoop to the level some of the Serbian commenting here. Let them believe their propaganda as long as they are happy.

Keep the pressure EU.

EA

pre 12 godina

EA

So you say while trampling all over International Law.
(Another Canadian Serb, 9 February 2012 20:41)

No Sir/Madam,

Serbia uses the term International Law purely for propaganda. Tell me under which international law Serbia conducted ethnic cleansing of former Yugoslavia? We all know what Russia and China stands for...it doesn't need too much brain to understand.

Fluid

pre 12 godina

Wrong, the pressure is not increasing.

The pressure is the same as it was three months ago. Maybe the pressure is building up in Belgrade while the deadline is approaching?

I suggest that Serbia apply for full membership in the Non-Aligned movement. Although the list of Serbia's friends on that list is shrinking (Egypt, Lybia, Yemen, Tunisia, and other dictatorships that fell or are about to fall), at least its ego won't be insulted there...

dori tirana

pre 12 godina

This title remind me the boiling frog story:
The boiling frog story is a widespread anecdote describing a frog slowly being boiled alive. The premise is that if a frog is placed in boiling water, it will jump out, but if it is placed in cold water that is slowly heated, it will not perceive the danger and will be cooked to death. The story is often used as a metaphor for the inability of people to react to significant changes that occur gradually.

Let’s see in the election how many Serbs will react to the pressure.

EA

pre 12 godina

Mendo,

You are right! Just wandering how far the insanity can go...maybe to level Anders Behren Breivik..... with such a hate how can the Serbia claim sovereignity and territorial integrity over Kosovo....

KOSO

pre 12 godina

I don't believe serbia will make candidate status in March. The ego coming out of belgrade is as if EU is trying to join Serbia, and not the other way around.

It's time to let these clowns from the partially recognized territory of Serbia aware that they aren't a super power. How is that dinar (serb rsd) to euro doing these days? 100? 102? 105?

EA

pre 12 godina

Sorry if I missed a few words, but feel free to add lib.

Ataman,

Don't worry, I will add up some more characteristics to see how similar "Albanians and Serbs are"

- Church-manipulators, church army barracs users
- Paradise society
- Angels
- Undisputable truth-teller
- Dependent from mother Russia
- Force-coming from Russia with love


It's still not the full list, but coming somewhat closer


With disgust from EA....

EA

pre 12 godina

How about the fact that the USA and NATO bombed the living s*&t out of Serbia in 1999 without the consent of the UN Security Council.
(Another Canadian Serb, 9 February 2012 18:58)

Where have you been these years man? Whole the world knows that Russia will veto any military action like they did against Al Assad of Syria....It is all about Russia's influence and brotherhood. They do not give a damn about massacres against civilians....Rest assured it is not about international law especially Russia of comrade Vladimir Putin former KGB spy. Do you get that now? If not I will try again to explain it to you.

dori tirana

pre 12 godina

Is this the same analogy you Albanians use for the mass migration of ethnic Albanians to the territory of Serbia and the Serbs being caught off guard and eventually somewhat powerless to defend their interests???

Because if it is then I think you're spot on.
(trizo, 10 February 2012 13:03)

Trizo mass migration of Albanians?! Trizo are 4 proved mass migration or mass expulsion of Albanians in written story from 4 thousands years.

1. Mass emigration of Albanian in Italy(Arberesh) after Otoman invasion of Albania.
2. Massacre of Albanians WWI and hundred of villages destroyed completely at North-East Kosova.
3. Massacre of Cham Albanians and total expulsion from chameria (northwest Greece of today) after WWII.
4. Ethnic Cleansing of Milosevic army 1998-99. 1 million Kalbanian migrated and emigrated. Fortunatly this time the expulsed Albanians comes back home.

The mass migration that you claim is only in the stories of your Grandfather that has read too much colonialist story in school.

a New Day

pre 12 godina

It is alright to collect Worthless Trinkets like European Union Candidate Status, but only if it is collected with every word of the Serbian Constitution and the United Nations Six Point Plan for Kosovo are fully obeyed and implemented as it is the Rule of Law.
(Yet Another J S, 9 February 2012 10:02)
Even though it was NEVER voted on in the UNSC or accepted, (remember the only proof you had was someone's blog) just what is it in the 6 point plan that is not being implemented at the present. The northern crossings are covered by international agents, other than Serbs allowing for immediate control over the Mitrovica courthouse, everything else was "discussions will take place" that is what the dialogue is suppose to be doing. So even without UNSC mandate everything is being covered except for those areas being held back by Serbia.

pss

pre 12 godina

How about the fact that the USA and NATO bombed the living s*&t out of Serbia in 1999 without the consent of the UN Security Council.
(Another Canadian Serb, 9 February 2012 18:58)

And then the UNSC turned around and enacted 1244 which forced the withdrawal of all Serbian forces and police from Kosovo, removed any political control over Kosovo, and stripped Serbia of all economic control of Kosovo, and then placed NATO in charge of security for all of Kosovo.
Sounds like an after the fact approval of the operation to me. The vote was 14 for and 1 abstain. Russia or China either one could have vetoed if they wanted, but that never happened.

Fluid

pre 12 godina

I should be thankful that I know many Serbs (actually my son's piano teacher is from Belgrade) and I know that not all of them are the stereotyping kind.

The unleashing of the racially charged slurs on this forum, especially coming from people who claim that are educated, clean, and live in a democratic country like Canada is appalling. Perhaps some classes of civic education would be in order...

Regardless, what is even more appalling is the fact that messages full of hate are being approved by the moderators. But in the other hand I am glad that they approved these messages, as it allows the impartial reader to see the true face of some posters here.

While this does not offend me, or any of the readers that it is targeting, these comments are really diluting the quality of the B92. B92 it is actually helping by allowing a conversion of the opportunity for an open dialogue into a witch hunt sessions and immature name calling.

P.S. Comments which include insults, indecencies, racial or ethnic hate messages and intolerance of any kind will not be published.

icj1

pre 12 godina

I have a war crime that comes to mind Skinner. How about the fact that the USA and NATO bombed the living s*&t out of Serbia in 1999 without the consent of the UN Security Council.
(Another Canadian Serb, 9 February 2012 18:58)

You are totally off track, dear. USA and NATO, by definition, cannot committ a war crime.

Peggy

pre 12 godina

"Regardless, what is even more appalling is the fact that messages full of hate are being approved by the moderators. But in the other hand I am glad that they approved these messages, as it allows the impartial reader to see the true face of some posters here."
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For once I agree with an Albanian. There are so many hateful and sarcastic posts coming from Albanians and their one man Croatian cheer squad (Lenard) that it really does show them as they really are.