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Tuesday, 07.02.2012.

10:04

Councilors wish to name street after terrorist

Councilors from ethnic Albanian parties in Bujanovac, southern Serbia, have adopted a proposal to change the names of several local streets.

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Ataman

pre 12 godina

And why is so important for you to throw trash on Albania? You are neither Serb, nor Albanian, nor Macedonian, what's your problem?
(miri, 8 February 2012 21:39)

Imagine, you coming here and all from Serbian side disappeared. You will feel lonely. I am doing a merciful, democratic and of course humanitarian job to satisfy your daily needs to vist a Serbian site and troll on some virtual enemies there. The disappointing, cold reality is of course much more different - but I should tell all this more merciful way, not just that straight, simple and ruthless.

ida

pre 12 godina

Serbs must not allow this - this is very provocative. If Albanians don't like it they can leave - the names of streets have been there all along and these Albanians have lived fine.
I don't think a few politicians outvoting by 1 member can change so many things. Something like this would have to be a vote by the people and need to be at least 75% for a change AND that it didn't threaten and provoke people. You can't name streets after a terrorist in a very fresh war/skirmish.

They can go back to Albania and rename the streets.

miri

pre 12 godina

The "Monkeydonian" guy should be called "Donkeydonian". In their true spirits the censors of B92 did allow that trash coming through, my response with an other name for Albania did not come through. Looks like equal treating for me, Macedonia is much more decent place than that backwards corner of Balkans but in the spirit of "political correctness" B92 is OK with "Monkeydonia" but not OK with the name I came off. Either both or nothing.
(Ataman, 8 February 2012 16:22)

And why is so important for you to throw trash on Albania? You are neither Serb, nor Albanian, nor Macedonian, what's your problem?

Half of Macedonia is populated by Albanians after all, so do you really think is such a big difference between two countries?
Having said this, I deeply disagree with the person who used derogatory word for Macedonians. They are our allies in the fight for Kosova.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

The "Monkeydonian" guy should be called "Donkeydonian". In their true spirits the censors of B92 did allow that trash coming through, my response with an other name for Albania did not come through. Looks like equal treating for me, Macedonia is much more decent place than that backwards corner of Balkans but in the spirit of "political correctness" B92 is OK with "Monkeydonia" but not OK with the name I came off. Either both or nothing.

ivan

pre 12 godina

The albanians are only making it worse on themselves. Nato will not always be there. IT will be ours and all ours again, and at that time there will be NOTHING that the albanians can do about it it.

Nikolle

pre 12 godina

"The albanians are only making it worse on themselves. Nato will not always be there. IT will be ours and all ours again, and at that time there will be NOTHING that the albanians can do about it it."

OK Nostradamus. riddle me this though, how are you going to convince the people in Kosovo that they're better off being Serbian citizens than not?

Nikolle

pre 12 godina

"...make it sound MUSLIM."

really? is there a street called Mohammed is Serbia or something? You still trying to sell this Muslim thing are you?

trizo

pre 12 godina

Why dont you leave Russian names alone, Russian language, flag color, religion, love for corruption lies and totalitarianism?

Why dont you go back to Russia, or wherever in the Asian world you are from.
(koko, 7 February 2012 13:53)

Serbs & Russians = Brothers & Sisters

We're telling you to leave Serbia & Serbian things alone because you are not our brothers and never will be. We're saying to go back to Albania where you belong. Stop stealing our land. Stop trying to change place names. Stop being so patriotic about Albania whilst you're privileged to live in our country (Serbia).

Serbs cannot even have their Serbian christians names in your country. We have to change our name to make it sound MUSLIM. ANd you want to talk about your rights in Presevo Valley?? Serbs have a harder life living in Albania than you do living in Serbia so stop whinging.

Al Mualima

pre 12 godina

(koko, 7 February 2012 13:53)

Asia is the cradle of ALL civilization and has had numerous advanced civilizations . It's ok though, I know you must have an inferiority complex about that. Your ignorance is forgiven. Your bigotry, however, is not.

dori tirana

pre 12 godina

Skendberg was as Albanian as you can get them! He didn't fight for Serbia, he faught for the liberation of Albanian lands end of!!
I guess like you cousins 'Monkeydonians' you will always be prone to stealing other people's cultures and histories to enrich your poor and pathetic ones!!
(daja i skenderbeut, 7 February 2012 23:55)
Don’t worry Daja. These are Serbs that still live in 19th century. For the Serbs of this century Albania and Albanian doesn’t exist. They agree the border with Greece to river Scumbin in the middle of Albania of today. So the Albanian from North are Serbians and Albanian from south are Greek. Scanderbeg is from North so he is Serb. For them the world I simple. We have only Slavs, Latin and Greek in Balkan area. So when did this kind of Albanians come out!!?? I wonder how many Serbs live still in 19th century.

Australian

pre 12 godina

a letter written to German Chancellor Angela Merkel on October 26, 2007 by Dietmar Hartwig, who had been head of the EU (then EC) mission in Kosovo just prior to the NATO bombing in March 1999, when the mission was withdrawn. In describing the situation in Kosovo at a time when the NATO aggression was being prepared on the pretext of “saving the Kosovars”, Hartwig wrote:

“Not a single report submitted in the period from late November 1998 up to the evacuation on the eve of the war mentioned that Serbs had committed any major or systematic crimes against Albanians, nor there was a single case referring to genocide or genocide-like incidents or crimes. Quite the opposite, in my reports I have repeatedly informed that, considering the increasingly more frequent KLA attacks against the Serbian executive, their law enforcement demonstrated remarkable restraint and discipline. The clear and often cited goal of the Serbian administration was to observe the Milosevic-Holbrooke Agreement to the letter so not to provide any excuse to the international community to intervene. … There were huge ‘discrepancies in perception’ between what the missions in Kosovo have been reporting to their respective governments and capitals, and what the latter thereafter released to the media and the public. This discrepancy can only be viewed as input to long-term preparation for war against Yugoslavia. Until the time I left Kosovo, there never happened what the media and, with no less intensity the politicians, were relentlessly claiming. Accordingly, until 20 March 1999 there was no reason for military intervention, which renders illegitimate measures undertaken thereafter by the international community. The collective behavior of EU Member States prior to, and after the war broke out, gives rise to serious concerns, because the truth was killed, and the EU lost reliability.”

http://www.counterpunch.org/2010/09/17/serbia-surrenders-kosovo-to-the-eu/

Australian

pre 12 godina

Actually Kosova will soon be Dardania again.
(Nelli_Canada, 7 February 2012 17:24)
Actually it is and will always be Kosovo. When America collapses and can't sustain their global empire the Serbs will take back what is theirs

mick

pre 12 godina

(daja i skenderbeut, 7 February 2012 23:55)
*So can you prove that Skenderbeg his parents were Albanian, in which Albanian dynasty did he belong?

Ok this: when Tsar Dushan died 1355, the Serbian empire was ruled by local rulers. Which a part was united under Lazar and they fought on the battle of Kosovo.
There was no winner Ottomans retreated and the parts Lazar dynasty ruled became vassals to the Ottomans BUT No Bosnia/Montenegro and Epir!
And who was the ruler of epir? yes you know it Georgija Kastriot
Ask yourselves why should a non serb rule serbian land of epir (back in that time 14th century)
Bosnia and epir where later conquered by the Ottomans.
Another note iskander is in Turkish Alexander. So Guess the Turks knew about the origin of Georgija Kastriot hence the name skenderbeg(think about Alexander the great).

@dori
-On 1389 you lose with Turks. After that you say that the pressure of Albanian and Turks change the ethnic composition of Kosova.

*Hmm The Vatican proclaimed approximately 100 years after the Kosovo war that Serbia lost. But did the ottomans retreat? Yes, if they won they would have conquered and enslaved the Serbs back then but they didn't!

-On 1912 you win Kosova. Since 1389-1912, 523 years. Is strange that “barbaric” Albanian doesn’t destroy the Churches during this period.

* In this time period Serbs (Christians and Muslims where the major population of Kosovo). Dont worry about the churches all Ottoman mosques where build on sights of former churches.

-From 1912-1999 you rule Kosova (except the WWII Nazi rule).
*Here Check this, a section of a report of WW2 Kosovo:

Albanians and Serbs in Kosovo: An Abbreviated History
An Opening for the The Islamic Jihad in Europe

G. Richard Jansen
Colorado State University
Fort Collins CO 80523
April 25, 1999, Updated July 22, 2008
The Yugoslav and Greek campaigns required 27 German divisions. Most of Kosovo was occupied by Albania except for the important mining region which remained under German control.

Resistance to German occupation was fierce and took place primarily under the Loyalist Chetnicks under the command of General Mihailovic and the Partisans under the command of the head of the Communist Party Josip Broz, a Croat, later known as Marshall Tito. In 1943 the British Government withdrew support from Mihailovic and threw all it's support in increasing amounts to Tito and the communists. This enabled Tito to fight both the Germans and Mihailovic and the Loyalists thus consolidating post-war communist rule over Yugoslavia. The Serbian guerilla resistance required, at it's peak, 700,000 German soldiers for it to be controlled by Germany.. In Kosovo, under Albanian and German rule nearly 100,000 Albanians moved into Kosovo. Serbs were harassed and attacked by the occupying force of Albanians.

Post-War Yugoslavia
After the war, thousands of Serbs and Montenegrins were prohibited from returning to Kosovo, and thousands of Albanians immigrated into Kosovo.

(as you see the conclusion of the report, WW2 precisely boosted the number of Albanians from less then 300.000 to over 500.000 at the end of WW2 and lowered Serbians to under 200.000)

So If I believe the heroic story of Serbs that always get back Kosova , second Serbs story this happen only one time in story after 523 years. So if the story repeat Serbs will get back Kosova 1999+523 on year 2522. Who knows it will be business as usual!
(dori tirana, 7 February 2012 22:50)
*Believe what you want to believe, but always rememberer everything you do will get back to you, continue with this hate and one day that hate will rebound to you. so I believe Kosovo will get back sooner under Serbian rule then expected ;)

Australian

pre 12 godina

Not much of a news story here. Albanian streets being named for Albanian hero's. Pretty routine stuff.
(Monkeydonia, 7 February 2012 20:52)

Just like they named their Nazi death squad after Albanian heroes? Skenderbeg SS Division. That, along with their inability to not reproduce fast, is the only reason Kosovo is majority Albanian. But don't confuse yourself. Kosovo will always been Serbian. do you think this is the first time it has been taken from them? I know you think Albanians were there first but there is NO proof of this at all, just albanian fantasy.

daja i skenderbeut

pre 12 godina

OMFG!! Now Skenderbeg is Serbian... where will this now end? So I guess Ismail Kadare is Greek, Mother Theresa is 'Macedonian' and Bekim Fehmiu was Serbian? FFS guys get real... I mean honestly the amount of disgusting lies that i read here day in day out is truly unbelievable!!
Skendberg was as Albanian as you can get them! He didn't fight for Serbia, he faught for the liberation of Albanian lands end of!!
I guess like you cousins 'Monkeydonians' you will always be prone to stealing other people's cultures and histories to enrich your poor and pathetic ones!!

question?

pre 12 godina

How many Serbs live in Albania?
How many streets in Albania are named after Serbs?

My guess is that there are almost no Serbs in Albania and definately NO streets named after Serb Heros in Albania. Why do albanians want to agitate the Serbs further? Haven't you had enough yet or is the ultimate prize Serbia itself along with Belgrade? Questions that need answering in order for both sides to understand the motivation behind the action. If not, you may see Serb MUP cleaning out this bastion of terrorism in Southern Serbia...then what?

dori tirana

pre 12 godina

The USA will be gone soon from the Balkans, and it will be business as usual.
(winston, 7 February 2012 19:16)
All the investment that Russian has done with you to do Serbia a regional factor is gone in vain. I think sometime that you Serbs don’t have the sense of the time. I make a schedule of time for you with the story you tell for Kosova.
-On 1389 you lose with Turks. After that you say that the pressure of Albanian and Turks change the ethnic composition of Kosova.
-On 1912 you win Kosova. Since 1389-1912, 523 years. Is strange that “barbaric” Albanian doesn’t destroy the Churches during this period.
-From 1912-1999 you rule Kosova (except the WWII Nazi rule).
So If I believe the heroic story of Serbs that always get back Kosova , second Serbs story this happen only one time in story after 523 years. So if the story repeat Serbs will get back Kosova 1999+523 on year 2522. Who knows it will be business as usual!

Pantelija

pre 12 godina

There is nothing more infuriating than seeing some american dumbass commenting on Kosovo status and problems arrogantly thinking he knows history (feed by CNN and FOX news BS/propaganda for years) better than people who lived in Kosovo for centuries

They tried to convert Serbian churches (ones that werent burned and destroyed by KLA) and when that failed they are trying to "albanize" Kosovo with the help of USA.

Pathetic is not strong enough word for this action

uk

pre 12 godina

They are respecting the state they live in! They respect law, and those people who decided to change the names respect democratic rules (a majority at the council support that) and the legal procedures of the republic of Serbia. Sorry ...

Dibrani007

pre 12 godina

(tom, 7 February 2012 16:37)

WOW... man now that's a stretch even for the likes of a propoganda expert like yourself.

Albanian street names for Albanian streets, no controversy there.

eric

pre 12 godina

Why don't you albanian clowns in New York try rename streets named after Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Abraham Lincoln....to the names of your favourite KLA organ snatching terrorists, and see what kind of response you get. You people are delusional. If you don't like Serbia, then there is a simple solution, leave!
(Dragan, 7 February 2012 17:28)

well if those serbs in northern Kosovo don't like it they can leave as well :DDD and in U.S there are streets named after albania, greece and many more....U.S does not discriminate, there are even cities in U.S called Milano, Athens, etc...open a map and read it .....so you haven't come out of the cave yet? did you know that milosevic is dead? any other news you want to know?

eris

pre 12 godina

and the other thing skanderbeg is not albanian he was part serbian and part greek ...
(tom, 7 February 2012 16:37)

lol no you got to be kidding me, no omg thanks for telling me that the whole world is dumb you the smartes one to live, holy serbian crap...and the other thing Putin is not russian he is part albanian part greek

Berk.

pre 12 godina

This is just the beginning. Today street names, tomorrow then barricades and referendum, and finally unification with Albanian countries. It is only a matter of time...

Cheers!

mick

pre 12 godina

@koko
why don't you move back to Dagestan or Chechnya/Ingushetia?
Present day Serbs are native in Europe(Balkans), proven by genetics and another thing is that many Serbian neighbours have all a big % of ex/former Serbs assimilated in the other nations.
What's wrong with the Russian flag? Half Europe uses that flag style.
I do not see a problem in that.

@Neil canada
Skenderbeg = Georgia Kastriot
A Serb/Macedonian (at that time Macedonians where the same as Serbs)* "see the Serbian empire" so his parents were Serbian and he was a ruler of the province Albania in which foreign Shqipi came to live in and fought on the same side.
can you change his parents ethnicity?


Also did you all notice on old maps Serbia in 1878, but on the other side of the border in which are present day presevo valley and kosovska kamenica/gnijlane were populated by Albanians a kind of same thing like Croatian kraijna that was populated with Serbs to fight against the Ottomans I think this was a Ottoman kraijna.

Also to note: this is democratic by voting for street renaming, but terrorist should not be praised as to get street naming or something similar. And if they are consequent then they should remove that one name and implement the other names.

winston

pre 12 godina

Nelli, Skenderbeg was part Serbian, I hate to burst your bubble. Do some internet research, and educate yourself. as for changing street names in Southern Serbian towns, well, go ahead and do it. If Albanian agendas in government are to make things more Albanian sounding, than to actually help Albanians go back to work, do it. But please keep in mind, it was the Serbs that liberated Southern Serbia from Ottoman rule, not the Albanians, who were their loyal bootlickers. The Balkans know the truth, Albanians, you can try and change history, but it will not happen. The USA will be gone soon from the Balkans, and it will be business as usual. You guys do do great palachinkas though. I'll have mine with orasi and djem..

MikeC

pre 12 godina

"In Serb populated areas in Kosovo they use Serbian street names, now why can't Albanians in Presheva valley enjoy the same rights?"

Pejoni

Are you kidding? In Kosovo as a whole they use serbian names for everything from mountains to rivers and cities. You know why? Because Kosovo is Serbian.

adrian kola

pre 12 godina

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter!
(adrian kola, 7 February 2012 11:02)

So Osama Bin Laden was........
(Niall O'Doherty, 7 February 2012 14:37)

And the IRA were... we're in a vicious cicle here mate!

Nelli_Canada

pre 12 godina

Do Serbs in Kosovo really have streets named after Milosevic, Mladic, Arkan and similar 'freedom fighters' and 'heroes' of the same kind? I doubt that.
(Comm. Parrisson, 7 February 2012 13:24)


LOL, these people were once world's most wanted criminals.

Dragan

pre 12 godina

while for 60 years the Albanian majority there was ignored and ALL streets were named with Serbian names that was OK???

Now that the majority wants to be resepcetd her culture in her own land that is wrong???

you Serbs are strange.
(ben, 7 February 2012 16:32)

Why don't you albanian clowns in New York try rename streets named after Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Abraham Lincoln....to the names of your favourite KLA organ snatching terrorists, and see what kind of response you get. You people are delusional. If you don't like Serbia, then there is a simple solution, leave!

Nelli_Canada

pre 12 godina

and the other thing skanderbeg is not albanian he was part serbian and part greek ...
(tom, 7 February 2012 16:37)


Oops, so far the dumbest comment seen in here, is there a street in belgrade or anywhere in serbia or greece named Skanderbeg. Dude you've been watching too many ridiculous videos on youtube.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

"Among them is Fatmir Ibisi of Gnjilane, who in February 2000 - as a member of a terrorist group - attacked a Serbian police vehicle, killing one officer and serously wounding three others. "

For those who cannot read: only Fatmir Ibisi was called terrorist. Read the title of the article once more = the word "terrorist" is single there, not plural.

Nelli_Canada

pre 12 godina

Pejoni

Albanians have already enjoyed that freedom when they changed Kosovo's name to Kosova.
(Another Canadian Serb, 7 February 2012 12:38)


Actually Kosova will soon be Dardania again.

ben

pre 12 godina

while for 60 years the Albanian majority there was ignored and ALL streets were named with Serbian names that was OK???

Now that the majority wants to be resepcetd her culture in her own land that is wrong???

you Serbs are strange.

tom

pre 12 godina

albanians are not a majority in that city but it looks like they want trouble again ,well you albanians better think of the last time when you got a beating but this time i think you will not be in the preshovo valley .your population will be 0. and the other thing skanderbeg is not albanian he was part serbian and part greek ...

ardi asllani

pre 12 godina

That is in the top 10 dumbest comments i've ever seen. How ignorant can you be. Not one of those people that you call terrorists ever fought off of Serbian territory. That means that it was defense you big d#mmy! These are tactical moves by a ethnic group of people that has a thirst that cannot be quenched. Problems with people that think they can take anything they want never end
(ivan, 7 February 2012 15:21)

The dumbest thing I find is on the article itself, by labeling Skenderbeg as a terrorist. Don't know who's idea was that?

zman

pre 12 godina

lol this is pretty sad.. This part of the country is going to be depopulated anyway.. What a waste..

There is some american, NATO, or KLA person behin this.. It's a control mechanism, because they can always create a conflict in the region if they get a goverment in Belgrade not as obedient.. Let's say Kostunica or Nikolic..

KOSO

pre 12 godina

TERRORIST? That's the last straw from this basket case partially recognized territory....you're pathetic serbia, you're a joke, you are the blackhole of Europe and the Balkans.

I can't wait until you pull a greece!! Keep provoking us.

ivan

pre 12 godina

If Serbs consider the Albanian names as terrorist, they should look no further than the above Serbian names.
(Kosova-USA, 7 February 2012 11:35)

# Comment link


That is in the top 10 dumbest comments i've ever seen. How ignorant can you be. Not one of those people that you call terrorists ever fought off of Serbian territory. That means that it was defense you big d#mmy! These are tactical moves by a ethnic group of people that has a thirst that cannot be quenched. Problems with people that think they can take anything they want never end

koko

pre 12 godina

"Leave Serbia alone and stop trying to change Serbian things to become Albanian.

Disgraceful.
(trizo"


Why dont you leave Russian names alone, Russian language, flag color, religion, love for corruption lies and totalitarianism?

Why dont you go back to Russia, or wherever in the Asian world you are from.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

"In Serb populated areas in Kosovo they use Serbian street names, now why can't Albanians in Presheva valley enjoy the same rights?"
(Pejoni, 7 February 2012 11:10)

Do Serbs in Kosovo really have streets named after Milosevic, Mladic, Arkan and similar 'freedom fighters' and 'heroes' of the same kind? I doubt that.

Daniel

pre 12 godina

n Serb populated areas in Kosovo they use Serbian street names, now why can't Albanians in Presheva valley enjoy the same rights?
(Pejoni, 7 February 2012 11:10)

Either you fell off of a chair and hit your head before writing this comment or you are just a moron to make such a comment. Nothing more needs to be said.

trizo

pre 12 godina

Bujanovac = Serbian.

Stop infesting our land like a plague.

Why don't you all just move back to Albania?

Leave Serbia alone and stop trying to change Serbian things to become Albanian.

Disgraceful.

Nikolle

pre 12 godina

"LOL! What does naming of streets have to do with status? "

It does show where their emotional loyalties lie though doesn't it? p.s. naming a street after someone who according to the state is a terrorist, is a kick in the teeth for the state isn't it? I see you have not yet abandoned your US paranoia.

Kosova-USA

pre 12 godina

They include Emperor Lazar, Empress Milica, WW1 generals Mišić, Stepa and Putnik, as well as social activists, reformers and educators Dimitrije Tucović, Dositej Obradović and Svetozar

If Serbs consider the Albanian names as terrorist, they should look no further than the above Serbian names.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

...and I always thought the Albanians of Presheva, Medvegja and Bujanovc wanted to be a part of Serbia
(Nikolle, 7 February 2012 10:18)
--
LOL! What does naming of streets have to do with status? The Albanians from that region vote in Serbian elections and are fully integrated into Serbian structures.

If anything, this has the stench of US interference. Naming streets after terrorists is bound to cause instability. Lets hope some cool heads defuse this issue.

koko

pre 12 godina

"Leave Serbia alone and stop trying to change Serbian things to become Albanian.

Disgraceful.
(trizo"


Why dont you leave Russian names alone, Russian language, flag color, religion, love for corruption lies and totalitarianism?

Why dont you go back to Russia, or wherever in the Asian world you are from.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

...and I always thought the Albanians of Presheva, Medvegja and Bujanovc wanted to be a part of Serbia
(Nikolle, 7 February 2012 10:18)
--
LOL! What does naming of streets have to do with status? The Albanians from that region vote in Serbian elections and are fully integrated into Serbian structures.

If anything, this has the stench of US interference. Naming streets after terrorists is bound to cause instability. Lets hope some cool heads defuse this issue.

Daniel

pre 12 godina

n Serb populated areas in Kosovo they use Serbian street names, now why can't Albanians in Presheva valley enjoy the same rights?
(Pejoni, 7 February 2012 11:10)

Either you fell off of a chair and hit your head before writing this comment or you are just a moron to make such a comment. Nothing more needs to be said.

trizo

pre 12 godina

Bujanovac = Serbian.

Stop infesting our land like a plague.

Why don't you all just move back to Albania?

Leave Serbia alone and stop trying to change Serbian things to become Albanian.

Disgraceful.

Kosova-USA

pre 12 godina

They include Emperor Lazar, Empress Milica, WW1 generals Mišić, Stepa and Putnik, as well as social activists, reformers and educators Dimitrije Tucović, Dositej Obradović and Svetozar

If Serbs consider the Albanian names as terrorist, they should look no further than the above Serbian names.

ivan

pre 12 godina

If Serbs consider the Albanian names as terrorist, they should look no further than the above Serbian names.
(Kosova-USA, 7 February 2012 11:35)

# Comment link


That is in the top 10 dumbest comments i've ever seen. How ignorant can you be. Not one of those people that you call terrorists ever fought off of Serbian territory. That means that it was defense you big d#mmy! These are tactical moves by a ethnic group of people that has a thirst that cannot be quenched. Problems with people that think they can take anything they want never end

Dragan

pre 12 godina

while for 60 years the Albanian majority there was ignored and ALL streets were named with Serbian names that was OK???

Now that the majority wants to be resepcetd her culture in her own land that is wrong???

you Serbs are strange.
(ben, 7 February 2012 16:32)

Why don't you albanian clowns in New York try rename streets named after Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Abraham Lincoln....to the names of your favourite KLA organ snatching terrorists, and see what kind of response you get. You people are delusional. If you don't like Serbia, then there is a simple solution, leave!

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

"In Serb populated areas in Kosovo they use Serbian street names, now why can't Albanians in Presheva valley enjoy the same rights?"
(Pejoni, 7 February 2012 11:10)

Do Serbs in Kosovo really have streets named after Milosevic, Mladic, Arkan and similar 'freedom fighters' and 'heroes' of the same kind? I doubt that.

KOSO

pre 12 godina

TERRORIST? That's the last straw from this basket case partially recognized territory....you're pathetic serbia, you're a joke, you are the blackhole of Europe and the Balkans.

I can't wait until you pull a greece!! Keep provoking us.

Pantelija

pre 12 godina

There is nothing more infuriating than seeing some american dumbass commenting on Kosovo status and problems arrogantly thinking he knows history (feed by CNN and FOX news BS/propaganda for years) better than people who lived in Kosovo for centuries

They tried to convert Serbian churches (ones that werent burned and destroyed by KLA) and when that failed they are trying to "albanize" Kosovo with the help of USA.

Pathetic is not strong enough word for this action

Nikolle

pre 12 godina

"LOL! What does naming of streets have to do with status? "

It does show where their emotional loyalties lie though doesn't it? p.s. naming a street after someone who according to the state is a terrorist, is a kick in the teeth for the state isn't it? I see you have not yet abandoned your US paranoia.

Nelli_Canada

pre 12 godina

and the other thing skanderbeg is not albanian he was part serbian and part greek ...
(tom, 7 February 2012 16:37)


Oops, so far the dumbest comment seen in here, is there a street in belgrade or anywhere in serbia or greece named Skanderbeg. Dude you've been watching too many ridiculous videos on youtube.

ben

pre 12 godina

while for 60 years the Albanian majority there was ignored and ALL streets were named with Serbian names that was OK???

Now that the majority wants to be resepcetd her culture in her own land that is wrong???

you Serbs are strange.

ardi asllani

pre 12 godina

That is in the top 10 dumbest comments i've ever seen. How ignorant can you be. Not one of those people that you call terrorists ever fought off of Serbian territory. That means that it was defense you big d#mmy! These are tactical moves by a ethnic group of people that has a thirst that cannot be quenched. Problems with people that think they can take anything they want never end
(ivan, 7 February 2012 15:21)

The dumbest thing I find is on the article itself, by labeling Skenderbeg as a terrorist. Don't know who's idea was that?

Nelli_Canada

pre 12 godina

Pejoni

Albanians have already enjoyed that freedom when they changed Kosovo's name to Kosova.
(Another Canadian Serb, 7 February 2012 12:38)


Actually Kosova will soon be Dardania again.

daja i skenderbeut

pre 12 godina

OMFG!! Now Skenderbeg is Serbian... where will this now end? So I guess Ismail Kadare is Greek, Mother Theresa is 'Macedonian' and Bekim Fehmiu was Serbian? FFS guys get real... I mean honestly the amount of disgusting lies that i read here day in day out is truly unbelievable!!
Skendberg was as Albanian as you can get them! He didn't fight for Serbia, he faught for the liberation of Albanian lands end of!!
I guess like you cousins 'Monkeydonians' you will always be prone to stealing other people's cultures and histories to enrich your poor and pathetic ones!!

Nelli_Canada

pre 12 godina

Do Serbs in Kosovo really have streets named after Milosevic, Mladic, Arkan and similar 'freedom fighters' and 'heroes' of the same kind? I doubt that.
(Comm. Parrisson, 7 February 2012 13:24)


LOL, these people were once world's most wanted criminals.

MikeC

pre 12 godina

"In Serb populated areas in Kosovo they use Serbian street names, now why can't Albanians in Presheva valley enjoy the same rights?"

Pejoni

Are you kidding? In Kosovo as a whole they use serbian names for everything from mountains to rivers and cities. You know why? Because Kosovo is Serbian.

eris

pre 12 godina

and the other thing skanderbeg is not albanian he was part serbian and part greek ...
(tom, 7 February 2012 16:37)

lol no you got to be kidding me, no omg thanks for telling me that the whole world is dumb you the smartes one to live, holy serbian crap...and the other thing Putin is not russian he is part albanian part greek

adrian kola

pre 12 godina

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter!
(adrian kola, 7 February 2012 11:02)

So Osama Bin Laden was........
(Niall O'Doherty, 7 February 2012 14:37)

And the IRA were... we're in a vicious cicle here mate!

Berk.

pre 12 godina

This is just the beginning. Today street names, tomorrow then barricades and referendum, and finally unification with Albanian countries. It is only a matter of time...

Cheers!

uk

pre 12 godina

They are respecting the state they live in! They respect law, and those people who decided to change the names respect democratic rules (a majority at the council support that) and the legal procedures of the republic of Serbia. Sorry ...

dori tirana

pre 12 godina

The USA will be gone soon from the Balkans, and it will be business as usual.
(winston, 7 February 2012 19:16)
All the investment that Russian has done with you to do Serbia a regional factor is gone in vain. I think sometime that you Serbs don’t have the sense of the time. I make a schedule of time for you with the story you tell for Kosova.
-On 1389 you lose with Turks. After that you say that the pressure of Albanian and Turks change the ethnic composition of Kosova.
-On 1912 you win Kosova. Since 1389-1912, 523 years. Is strange that “barbaric” Albanian doesn’t destroy the Churches during this period.
-From 1912-1999 you rule Kosova (except the WWII Nazi rule).
So If I believe the heroic story of Serbs that always get back Kosova , second Serbs story this happen only one time in story after 523 years. So if the story repeat Serbs will get back Kosova 1999+523 on year 2522. Who knows it will be business as usual!

Australian

pre 12 godina

Actually Kosova will soon be Dardania again.
(Nelli_Canada, 7 February 2012 17:24)
Actually it is and will always be Kosovo. When America collapses and can't sustain their global empire the Serbs will take back what is theirs

mick

pre 12 godina

@koko
why don't you move back to Dagestan or Chechnya/Ingushetia?
Present day Serbs are native in Europe(Balkans), proven by genetics and another thing is that many Serbian neighbours have all a big % of ex/former Serbs assimilated in the other nations.
What's wrong with the Russian flag? Half Europe uses that flag style.
I do not see a problem in that.

@Neil canada
Skenderbeg = Georgia Kastriot
A Serb/Macedonian (at that time Macedonians where the same as Serbs)* "see the Serbian empire" so his parents were Serbian and he was a ruler of the province Albania in which foreign Shqipi came to live in and fought on the same side.
can you change his parents ethnicity?


Also did you all notice on old maps Serbia in 1878, but on the other side of the border in which are present day presevo valley and kosovska kamenica/gnijlane were populated by Albanians a kind of same thing like Croatian kraijna that was populated with Serbs to fight against the Ottomans I think this was a Ottoman kraijna.

Also to note: this is democratic by voting for street renaming, but terrorist should not be praised as to get street naming or something similar. And if they are consequent then they should remove that one name and implement the other names.

Dibrani007

pre 12 godina

(tom, 7 February 2012 16:37)

WOW... man now that's a stretch even for the likes of a propoganda expert like yourself.

Albanian street names for Albanian streets, no controversy there.

question?

pre 12 godina

How many Serbs live in Albania?
How many streets in Albania are named after Serbs?

My guess is that there are almost no Serbs in Albania and definately NO streets named after Serb Heros in Albania. Why do albanians want to agitate the Serbs further? Haven't you had enough yet or is the ultimate prize Serbia itself along with Belgrade? Questions that need answering in order for both sides to understand the motivation behind the action. If not, you may see Serb MUP cleaning out this bastion of terrorism in Southern Serbia...then what?

ida

pre 12 godina

Serbs must not allow this - this is very provocative. If Albanians don't like it they can leave - the names of streets have been there all along and these Albanians have lived fine.
I don't think a few politicians outvoting by 1 member can change so many things. Something like this would have to be a vote by the people and need to be at least 75% for a change AND that it didn't threaten and provoke people. You can't name streets after a terrorist in a very fresh war/skirmish.

They can go back to Albania and rename the streets.

tom

pre 12 godina

albanians are not a majority in that city but it looks like they want trouble again ,well you albanians better think of the last time when you got a beating but this time i think you will not be in the preshovo valley .your population will be 0. and the other thing skanderbeg is not albanian he was part serbian and part greek ...

zman

pre 12 godina

lol this is pretty sad.. This part of the country is going to be depopulated anyway.. What a waste..

There is some american, NATO, or KLA person behin this.. It's a control mechanism, because they can always create a conflict in the region if they get a goverment in Belgrade not as obedient.. Let's say Kostunica or Nikolic..

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

"Among them is Fatmir Ibisi of Gnjilane, who in February 2000 - as a member of a terrorist group - attacked a Serbian police vehicle, killing one officer and serously wounding three others. "

For those who cannot read: only Fatmir Ibisi was called terrorist. Read the title of the article once more = the word "terrorist" is single there, not plural.

winston

pre 12 godina

Nelli, Skenderbeg was part Serbian, I hate to burst your bubble. Do some internet research, and educate yourself. as for changing street names in Southern Serbian towns, well, go ahead and do it. If Albanian agendas in government are to make things more Albanian sounding, than to actually help Albanians go back to work, do it. But please keep in mind, it was the Serbs that liberated Southern Serbia from Ottoman rule, not the Albanians, who were their loyal bootlickers. The Balkans know the truth, Albanians, you can try and change history, but it will not happen. The USA will be gone soon from the Balkans, and it will be business as usual. You guys do do great palachinkas though. I'll have mine with orasi and djem..

eric

pre 12 godina

Why don't you albanian clowns in New York try rename streets named after Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Abraham Lincoln....to the names of your favourite KLA organ snatching terrorists, and see what kind of response you get. You people are delusional. If you don't like Serbia, then there is a simple solution, leave!
(Dragan, 7 February 2012 17:28)

well if those serbs in northern Kosovo don't like it they can leave as well :DDD and in U.S there are streets named after albania, greece and many more....U.S does not discriminate, there are even cities in U.S called Milano, Athens, etc...open a map and read it .....so you haven't come out of the cave yet? did you know that milosevic is dead? any other news you want to know?

dori tirana

pre 12 godina

Skendberg was as Albanian as you can get them! He didn't fight for Serbia, he faught for the liberation of Albanian lands end of!!
I guess like you cousins 'Monkeydonians' you will always be prone to stealing other people's cultures and histories to enrich your poor and pathetic ones!!
(daja i skenderbeut, 7 February 2012 23:55)
Don’t worry Daja. These are Serbs that still live in 19th century. For the Serbs of this century Albania and Albanian doesn’t exist. They agree the border with Greece to river Scumbin in the middle of Albania of today. So the Albanian from North are Serbians and Albanian from south are Greek. Scanderbeg is from North so he is Serb. For them the world I simple. We have only Slavs, Latin and Greek in Balkan area. So when did this kind of Albanians come out!!?? I wonder how many Serbs live still in 19th century.

Australian

pre 12 godina

a letter written to German Chancellor Angela Merkel on October 26, 2007 by Dietmar Hartwig, who had been head of the EU (then EC) mission in Kosovo just prior to the NATO bombing in March 1999, when the mission was withdrawn. In describing the situation in Kosovo at a time when the NATO aggression was being prepared on the pretext of “saving the Kosovars”, Hartwig wrote:

“Not a single report submitted in the period from late November 1998 up to the evacuation on the eve of the war mentioned that Serbs had committed any major or systematic crimes against Albanians, nor there was a single case referring to genocide or genocide-like incidents or crimes. Quite the opposite, in my reports I have repeatedly informed that, considering the increasingly more frequent KLA attacks against the Serbian executive, their law enforcement demonstrated remarkable restraint and discipline. The clear and often cited goal of the Serbian administration was to observe the Milosevic-Holbrooke Agreement to the letter so not to provide any excuse to the international community to intervene. … There were huge ‘discrepancies in perception’ between what the missions in Kosovo have been reporting to their respective governments and capitals, and what the latter thereafter released to the media and the public. This discrepancy can only be viewed as input to long-term preparation for war against Yugoslavia. Until the time I left Kosovo, there never happened what the media and, with no less intensity the politicians, were relentlessly claiming. Accordingly, until 20 March 1999 there was no reason for military intervention, which renders illegitimate measures undertaken thereafter by the international community. The collective behavior of EU Member States prior to, and after the war broke out, gives rise to serious concerns, because the truth was killed, and the EU lost reliability.”

http://www.counterpunch.org/2010/09/17/serbia-surrenders-kosovo-to-the-eu/

trizo

pre 12 godina

Why dont you leave Russian names alone, Russian language, flag color, religion, love for corruption lies and totalitarianism?

Why dont you go back to Russia, or wherever in the Asian world you are from.
(koko, 7 February 2012 13:53)

Serbs & Russians = Brothers & Sisters

We're telling you to leave Serbia & Serbian things alone because you are not our brothers and never will be. We're saying to go back to Albania where you belong. Stop stealing our land. Stop trying to change place names. Stop being so patriotic about Albania whilst you're privileged to live in our country (Serbia).

Serbs cannot even have their Serbian christians names in your country. We have to change our name to make it sound MUSLIM. ANd you want to talk about your rights in Presevo Valley?? Serbs have a harder life living in Albania than you do living in Serbia so stop whinging.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

The "Monkeydonian" guy should be called "Donkeydonian". In their true spirits the censors of B92 did allow that trash coming through, my response with an other name for Albania did not come through. Looks like equal treating for me, Macedonia is much more decent place than that backwards corner of Balkans but in the spirit of "political correctness" B92 is OK with "Monkeydonia" but not OK with the name I came off. Either both or nothing.

Australian

pre 12 godina

Not much of a news story here. Albanian streets being named for Albanian hero's. Pretty routine stuff.
(Monkeydonia, 7 February 2012 20:52)

Just like they named their Nazi death squad after Albanian heroes? Skenderbeg SS Division. That, along with their inability to not reproduce fast, is the only reason Kosovo is majority Albanian. But don't confuse yourself. Kosovo will always been Serbian. do you think this is the first time it has been taken from them? I know you think Albanians were there first but there is NO proof of this at all, just albanian fantasy.

mick

pre 12 godina

(daja i skenderbeut, 7 February 2012 23:55)
*So can you prove that Skenderbeg his parents were Albanian, in which Albanian dynasty did he belong?

Ok this: when Tsar Dushan died 1355, the Serbian empire was ruled by local rulers. Which a part was united under Lazar and they fought on the battle of Kosovo.
There was no winner Ottomans retreated and the parts Lazar dynasty ruled became vassals to the Ottomans BUT No Bosnia/Montenegro and Epir!
And who was the ruler of epir? yes you know it Georgija Kastriot
Ask yourselves why should a non serb rule serbian land of epir (back in that time 14th century)
Bosnia and epir where later conquered by the Ottomans.
Another note iskander is in Turkish Alexander. So Guess the Turks knew about the origin of Georgija Kastriot hence the name skenderbeg(think about Alexander the great).

@dori
-On 1389 you lose with Turks. After that you say that the pressure of Albanian and Turks change the ethnic composition of Kosova.

*Hmm The Vatican proclaimed approximately 100 years after the Kosovo war that Serbia lost. But did the ottomans retreat? Yes, if they won they would have conquered and enslaved the Serbs back then but they didn't!

-On 1912 you win Kosova. Since 1389-1912, 523 years. Is strange that “barbaric” Albanian doesn’t destroy the Churches during this period.

* In this time period Serbs (Christians and Muslims where the major population of Kosovo). Dont worry about the churches all Ottoman mosques where build on sights of former churches.

-From 1912-1999 you rule Kosova (except the WWII Nazi rule).
*Here Check this, a section of a report of WW2 Kosovo:

Albanians and Serbs in Kosovo: An Abbreviated History
An Opening for the The Islamic Jihad in Europe

G. Richard Jansen
Colorado State University
Fort Collins CO 80523
April 25, 1999, Updated July 22, 2008
The Yugoslav and Greek campaigns required 27 German divisions. Most of Kosovo was occupied by Albania except for the important mining region which remained under German control.

Resistance to German occupation was fierce and took place primarily under the Loyalist Chetnicks under the command of General Mihailovic and the Partisans under the command of the head of the Communist Party Josip Broz, a Croat, later known as Marshall Tito. In 1943 the British Government withdrew support from Mihailovic and threw all it's support in increasing amounts to Tito and the communists. This enabled Tito to fight both the Germans and Mihailovic and the Loyalists thus consolidating post-war communist rule over Yugoslavia. The Serbian guerilla resistance required, at it's peak, 700,000 German soldiers for it to be controlled by Germany.. In Kosovo, under Albanian and German rule nearly 100,000 Albanians moved into Kosovo. Serbs were harassed and attacked by the occupying force of Albanians.

Post-War Yugoslavia
After the war, thousands of Serbs and Montenegrins were prohibited from returning to Kosovo, and thousands of Albanians immigrated into Kosovo.

(as you see the conclusion of the report, WW2 precisely boosted the number of Albanians from less then 300.000 to over 500.000 at the end of WW2 and lowered Serbians to under 200.000)

So If I believe the heroic story of Serbs that always get back Kosova , second Serbs story this happen only one time in story after 523 years. So if the story repeat Serbs will get back Kosova 1999+523 on year 2522. Who knows it will be business as usual!
(dori tirana, 7 February 2012 22:50)
*Believe what you want to believe, but always rememberer everything you do will get back to you, continue with this hate and one day that hate will rebound to you. so I believe Kosovo will get back sooner under Serbian rule then expected ;)

ivan

pre 12 godina

The albanians are only making it worse on themselves. Nato will not always be there. IT will be ours and all ours again, and at that time there will be NOTHING that the albanians can do about it it.

Nikolle

pre 12 godina

"The albanians are only making it worse on themselves. Nato will not always be there. IT will be ours and all ours again, and at that time there will be NOTHING that the albanians can do about it it."

OK Nostradamus. riddle me this though, how are you going to convince the people in Kosovo that they're better off being Serbian citizens than not?

Al Mualima

pre 12 godina

(koko, 7 February 2012 13:53)

Asia is the cradle of ALL civilization and has had numerous advanced civilizations . It's ok though, I know you must have an inferiority complex about that. Your ignorance is forgiven. Your bigotry, however, is not.

Nikolle

pre 12 godina

"...make it sound MUSLIM."

really? is there a street called Mohammed is Serbia or something? You still trying to sell this Muslim thing are you?

Ataman

pre 12 godina

And why is so important for you to throw trash on Albania? You are neither Serb, nor Albanian, nor Macedonian, what's your problem?
(miri, 8 February 2012 21:39)

Imagine, you coming here and all from Serbian side disappeared. You will feel lonely. I am doing a merciful, democratic and of course humanitarian job to satisfy your daily needs to vist a Serbian site and troll on some virtual enemies there. The disappointing, cold reality is of course much more different - but I should tell all this more merciful way, not just that straight, simple and ruthless.

miri

pre 12 godina

The "Monkeydonian" guy should be called "Donkeydonian". In their true spirits the censors of B92 did allow that trash coming through, my response with an other name for Albania did not come through. Looks like equal treating for me, Macedonia is much more decent place than that backwards corner of Balkans but in the spirit of "political correctness" B92 is OK with "Monkeydonia" but not OK with the name I came off. Either both or nothing.
(Ataman, 8 February 2012 16:22)

And why is so important for you to throw trash on Albania? You are neither Serb, nor Albanian, nor Macedonian, what's your problem?

Half of Macedonia is populated by Albanians after all, so do you really think is such a big difference between two countries?
Having said this, I deeply disagree with the person who used derogatory word for Macedonians. They are our allies in the fight for Kosova.

Kosova-USA

pre 12 godina

They include Emperor Lazar, Empress Milica, WW1 generals Mišić, Stepa and Putnik, as well as social activists, reformers and educators Dimitrije Tucović, Dositej Obradović and Svetozar

If Serbs consider the Albanian names as terrorist, they should look no further than the above Serbian names.

koko

pre 12 godina

"Leave Serbia alone and stop trying to change Serbian things to become Albanian.

Disgraceful.
(trizo"


Why dont you leave Russian names alone, Russian language, flag color, religion, love for corruption lies and totalitarianism?

Why dont you go back to Russia, or wherever in the Asian world you are from.

Nikolle

pre 12 godina

"LOL! What does naming of streets have to do with status? "

It does show where their emotional loyalties lie though doesn't it? p.s. naming a street after someone who according to the state is a terrorist, is a kick in the teeth for the state isn't it? I see you have not yet abandoned your US paranoia.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

...and I always thought the Albanians of Presheva, Medvegja and Bujanovc wanted to be a part of Serbia
(Nikolle, 7 February 2012 10:18)
--
LOL! What does naming of streets have to do with status? The Albanians from that region vote in Serbian elections and are fully integrated into Serbian structures.

If anything, this has the stench of US interference. Naming streets after terrorists is bound to cause instability. Lets hope some cool heads defuse this issue.

KOSO

pre 12 godina

TERRORIST? That's the last straw from this basket case partially recognized territory....you're pathetic serbia, you're a joke, you are the blackhole of Europe and the Balkans.

I can't wait until you pull a greece!! Keep provoking us.

trizo

pre 12 godina

Bujanovac = Serbian.

Stop infesting our land like a plague.

Why don't you all just move back to Albania?

Leave Serbia alone and stop trying to change Serbian things to become Albanian.

Disgraceful.

Daniel

pre 12 godina

n Serb populated areas in Kosovo they use Serbian street names, now why can't Albanians in Presheva valley enjoy the same rights?
(Pejoni, 7 February 2012 11:10)

Either you fell off of a chair and hit your head before writing this comment or you are just a moron to make such a comment. Nothing more needs to be said.

ivan

pre 12 godina

If Serbs consider the Albanian names as terrorist, they should look no further than the above Serbian names.
(Kosova-USA, 7 February 2012 11:35)

# Comment link


That is in the top 10 dumbest comments i've ever seen. How ignorant can you be. Not one of those people that you call terrorists ever fought off of Serbian territory. That means that it was defense you big d#mmy! These are tactical moves by a ethnic group of people that has a thirst that cannot be quenched. Problems with people that think they can take anything they want never end

ben

pre 12 godina

while for 60 years the Albanian majority there was ignored and ALL streets were named with Serbian names that was OK???

Now that the majority wants to be resepcetd her culture in her own land that is wrong???

you Serbs are strange.

tom

pre 12 godina

albanians are not a majority in that city but it looks like they want trouble again ,well you albanians better think of the last time when you got a beating but this time i think you will not be in the preshovo valley .your population will be 0. and the other thing skanderbeg is not albanian he was part serbian and part greek ...

eric

pre 12 godina

Why don't you albanian clowns in New York try rename streets named after Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Abraham Lincoln....to the names of your favourite KLA organ snatching terrorists, and see what kind of response you get. You people are delusional. If you don't like Serbia, then there is a simple solution, leave!
(Dragan, 7 February 2012 17:28)

well if those serbs in northern Kosovo don't like it they can leave as well :DDD and in U.S there are streets named after albania, greece and many more....U.S does not discriminate, there are even cities in U.S called Milano, Athens, etc...open a map and read it .....so you haven't come out of the cave yet? did you know that milosevic is dead? any other news you want to know?

Nelli_Canada

pre 12 godina

Pejoni

Albanians have already enjoyed that freedom when they changed Kosovo's name to Kosova.
(Another Canadian Serb, 7 February 2012 12:38)


Actually Kosova will soon be Dardania again.

Nelli_Canada

pre 12 godina

and the other thing skanderbeg is not albanian he was part serbian and part greek ...
(tom, 7 February 2012 16:37)


Oops, so far the dumbest comment seen in here, is there a street in belgrade or anywhere in serbia or greece named Skanderbeg. Dude you've been watching too many ridiculous videos on youtube.

dori tirana

pre 12 godina

The USA will be gone soon from the Balkans, and it will be business as usual.
(winston, 7 February 2012 19:16)
All the investment that Russian has done with you to do Serbia a regional factor is gone in vain. I think sometime that you Serbs don’t have the sense of the time. I make a schedule of time for you with the story you tell for Kosova.
-On 1389 you lose with Turks. After that you say that the pressure of Albanian and Turks change the ethnic composition of Kosova.
-On 1912 you win Kosova. Since 1389-1912, 523 years. Is strange that “barbaric” Albanian doesn’t destroy the Churches during this period.
-From 1912-1999 you rule Kosova (except the WWII Nazi rule).
So If I believe the heroic story of Serbs that always get back Kosova , second Serbs story this happen only one time in story after 523 years. So if the story repeat Serbs will get back Kosova 1999+523 on year 2522. Who knows it will be business as usual!

zman

pre 12 godina

lol this is pretty sad.. This part of the country is going to be depopulated anyway.. What a waste..

There is some american, NATO, or KLA person behin this.. It's a control mechanism, because they can always create a conflict in the region if they get a goverment in Belgrade not as obedient.. Let's say Kostunica or Nikolic..

Nelli_Canada

pre 12 godina

Do Serbs in Kosovo really have streets named after Milosevic, Mladic, Arkan and similar 'freedom fighters' and 'heroes' of the same kind? I doubt that.
(Comm. Parrisson, 7 February 2012 13:24)


LOL, these people were once world's most wanted criminals.

Nikolle

pre 12 godina

"...make it sound MUSLIM."

really? is there a street called Mohammed is Serbia or something? You still trying to sell this Muslim thing are you?

ardi asllani

pre 12 godina

That is in the top 10 dumbest comments i've ever seen. How ignorant can you be. Not one of those people that you call terrorists ever fought off of Serbian territory. That means that it was defense you big d#mmy! These are tactical moves by a ethnic group of people that has a thirst that cannot be quenched. Problems with people that think they can take anything they want never end
(ivan, 7 February 2012 15:21)

The dumbest thing I find is on the article itself, by labeling Skenderbeg as a terrorist. Don't know who's idea was that?

MikeC

pre 12 godina

"In Serb populated areas in Kosovo they use Serbian street names, now why can't Albanians in Presheva valley enjoy the same rights?"

Pejoni

Are you kidding? In Kosovo as a whole they use serbian names for everything from mountains to rivers and cities. You know why? Because Kosovo is Serbian.

Dibrani007

pre 12 godina

(tom, 7 February 2012 16:37)

WOW... man now that's a stretch even for the likes of a propoganda expert like yourself.

Albanian street names for Albanian streets, no controversy there.

daja i skenderbeut

pre 12 godina

OMFG!! Now Skenderbeg is Serbian... where will this now end? So I guess Ismail Kadare is Greek, Mother Theresa is 'Macedonian' and Bekim Fehmiu was Serbian? FFS guys get real... I mean honestly the amount of disgusting lies that i read here day in day out is truly unbelievable!!
Skendberg was as Albanian as you can get them! He didn't fight for Serbia, he faught for the liberation of Albanian lands end of!!
I guess like you cousins 'Monkeydonians' you will always be prone to stealing other people's cultures and histories to enrich your poor and pathetic ones!!

mick

pre 12 godina

@koko
why don't you move back to Dagestan or Chechnya/Ingushetia?
Present day Serbs are native in Europe(Balkans), proven by genetics and another thing is that many Serbian neighbours have all a big % of ex/former Serbs assimilated in the other nations.
What's wrong with the Russian flag? Half Europe uses that flag style.
I do not see a problem in that.

@Neil canada
Skenderbeg = Georgia Kastriot
A Serb/Macedonian (at that time Macedonians where the same as Serbs)* "see the Serbian empire" so his parents were Serbian and he was a ruler of the province Albania in which foreign Shqipi came to live in and fought on the same side.
can you change his parents ethnicity?


Also did you all notice on old maps Serbia in 1878, but on the other side of the border in which are present day presevo valley and kosovska kamenica/gnijlane were populated by Albanians a kind of same thing like Croatian kraijna that was populated with Serbs to fight against the Ottomans I think this was a Ottoman kraijna.

Also to note: this is democratic by voting for street renaming, but terrorist should not be praised as to get street naming or something similar. And if they are consequent then they should remove that one name and implement the other names.

Berk.

pre 12 godina

This is just the beginning. Today street names, tomorrow then barricades and referendum, and finally unification with Albanian countries. It is only a matter of time...

Cheers!

Pantelija

pre 12 godina

There is nothing more infuriating than seeing some american dumbass commenting on Kosovo status and problems arrogantly thinking he knows history (feed by CNN and FOX news BS/propaganda for years) better than people who lived in Kosovo for centuries

They tried to convert Serbian churches (ones that werent burned and destroyed by KLA) and when that failed they are trying to "albanize" Kosovo with the help of USA.

Pathetic is not strong enough word for this action

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

"In Serb populated areas in Kosovo they use Serbian street names, now why can't Albanians in Presheva valley enjoy the same rights?"
(Pejoni, 7 February 2012 11:10)

Do Serbs in Kosovo really have streets named after Milosevic, Mladic, Arkan and similar 'freedom fighters' and 'heroes' of the same kind? I doubt that.

winston

pre 12 godina

Nelli, Skenderbeg was part Serbian, I hate to burst your bubble. Do some internet research, and educate yourself. as for changing street names in Southern Serbian towns, well, go ahead and do it. If Albanian agendas in government are to make things more Albanian sounding, than to actually help Albanians go back to work, do it. But please keep in mind, it was the Serbs that liberated Southern Serbia from Ottoman rule, not the Albanians, who were their loyal bootlickers. The Balkans know the truth, Albanians, you can try and change history, but it will not happen. The USA will be gone soon from the Balkans, and it will be business as usual. You guys do do great palachinkas though. I'll have mine with orasi and djem..

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

"Among them is Fatmir Ibisi of Gnjilane, who in February 2000 - as a member of a terrorist group - attacked a Serbian police vehicle, killing one officer and serously wounding three others. "

For those who cannot read: only Fatmir Ibisi was called terrorist. Read the title of the article once more = the word "terrorist" is single there, not plural.

Dragan

pre 12 godina

while for 60 years the Albanian majority there was ignored and ALL streets were named with Serbian names that was OK???

Now that the majority wants to be resepcetd her culture in her own land that is wrong???

you Serbs are strange.
(ben, 7 February 2012 16:32)

Why don't you albanian clowns in New York try rename streets named after Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Abraham Lincoln....to the names of your favourite KLA organ snatching terrorists, and see what kind of response you get. You people are delusional. If you don't like Serbia, then there is a simple solution, leave!

eris

pre 12 godina

and the other thing skanderbeg is not albanian he was part serbian and part greek ...
(tom, 7 February 2012 16:37)

lol no you got to be kidding me, no omg thanks for telling me that the whole world is dumb you the smartes one to live, holy serbian crap...and the other thing Putin is not russian he is part albanian part greek

question?

pre 12 godina

How many Serbs live in Albania?
How many streets in Albania are named after Serbs?

My guess is that there are almost no Serbs in Albania and definately NO streets named after Serb Heros in Albania. Why do albanians want to agitate the Serbs further? Haven't you had enough yet or is the ultimate prize Serbia itself along with Belgrade? Questions that need answering in order for both sides to understand the motivation behind the action. If not, you may see Serb MUP cleaning out this bastion of terrorism in Southern Serbia...then what?

ivan

pre 12 godina

The albanians are only making it worse on themselves. Nato will not always be there. IT will be ours and all ours again, and at that time there will be NOTHING that the albanians can do about it it.

adrian kola

pre 12 godina

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter!
(adrian kola, 7 February 2012 11:02)

So Osama Bin Laden was........
(Niall O'Doherty, 7 February 2012 14:37)

And the IRA were... we're in a vicious cicle here mate!

Nikolle

pre 12 godina

"The albanians are only making it worse on themselves. Nato will not always be there. IT will be ours and all ours again, and at that time there will be NOTHING that the albanians can do about it it."

OK Nostradamus. riddle me this though, how are you going to convince the people in Kosovo that they're better off being Serbian citizens than not?

Australian

pre 12 godina

Not much of a news story here. Albanian streets being named for Albanian hero's. Pretty routine stuff.
(Monkeydonia, 7 February 2012 20:52)

Just like they named their Nazi death squad after Albanian heroes? Skenderbeg SS Division. That, along with their inability to not reproduce fast, is the only reason Kosovo is majority Albanian. But don't confuse yourself. Kosovo will always been Serbian. do you think this is the first time it has been taken from them? I know you think Albanians were there first but there is NO proof of this at all, just albanian fantasy.

Australian

pre 12 godina

Actually Kosova will soon be Dardania again.
(Nelli_Canada, 7 February 2012 17:24)
Actually it is and will always be Kosovo. When America collapses and can't sustain their global empire the Serbs will take back what is theirs

dori tirana

pre 12 godina

Skendberg was as Albanian as you can get them! He didn't fight for Serbia, he faught for the liberation of Albanian lands end of!!
I guess like you cousins 'Monkeydonians' you will always be prone to stealing other people's cultures and histories to enrich your poor and pathetic ones!!
(daja i skenderbeut, 7 February 2012 23:55)
Don’t worry Daja. These are Serbs that still live in 19th century. For the Serbs of this century Albania and Albanian doesn’t exist. They agree the border with Greece to river Scumbin in the middle of Albania of today. So the Albanian from North are Serbians and Albanian from south are Greek. Scanderbeg is from North so he is Serb. For them the world I simple. We have only Slavs, Latin and Greek in Balkan area. So when did this kind of Albanians come out!!?? I wonder how many Serbs live still in 19th century.

mick

pre 12 godina

(daja i skenderbeut, 7 February 2012 23:55)
*So can you prove that Skenderbeg his parents were Albanian, in which Albanian dynasty did he belong?

Ok this: when Tsar Dushan died 1355, the Serbian empire was ruled by local rulers. Which a part was united under Lazar and they fought on the battle of Kosovo.
There was no winner Ottomans retreated and the parts Lazar dynasty ruled became vassals to the Ottomans BUT No Bosnia/Montenegro and Epir!
And who was the ruler of epir? yes you know it Georgija Kastriot
Ask yourselves why should a non serb rule serbian land of epir (back in that time 14th century)
Bosnia and epir where later conquered by the Ottomans.
Another note iskander is in Turkish Alexander. So Guess the Turks knew about the origin of Georgija Kastriot hence the name skenderbeg(think about Alexander the great).

@dori
-On 1389 you lose with Turks. After that you say that the pressure of Albanian and Turks change the ethnic composition of Kosova.

*Hmm The Vatican proclaimed approximately 100 years after the Kosovo war that Serbia lost. But did the ottomans retreat? Yes, if they won they would have conquered and enslaved the Serbs back then but they didn't!

-On 1912 you win Kosova. Since 1389-1912, 523 years. Is strange that “barbaric” Albanian doesn’t destroy the Churches during this period.

* In this time period Serbs (Christians and Muslims where the major population of Kosovo). Dont worry about the churches all Ottoman mosques where build on sights of former churches.

-From 1912-1999 you rule Kosova (except the WWII Nazi rule).
*Here Check this, a section of a report of WW2 Kosovo:

Albanians and Serbs in Kosovo: An Abbreviated History
An Opening for the The Islamic Jihad in Europe

G. Richard Jansen
Colorado State University
Fort Collins CO 80523
April 25, 1999, Updated July 22, 2008
The Yugoslav and Greek campaigns required 27 German divisions. Most of Kosovo was occupied by Albania except for the important mining region which remained under German control.

Resistance to German occupation was fierce and took place primarily under the Loyalist Chetnicks under the command of General Mihailovic and the Partisans under the command of the head of the Communist Party Josip Broz, a Croat, later known as Marshall Tito. In 1943 the British Government withdrew support from Mihailovic and threw all it's support in increasing amounts to Tito and the communists. This enabled Tito to fight both the Germans and Mihailovic and the Loyalists thus consolidating post-war communist rule over Yugoslavia. The Serbian guerilla resistance required, at it's peak, 700,000 German soldiers for it to be controlled by Germany.. In Kosovo, under Albanian and German rule nearly 100,000 Albanians moved into Kosovo. Serbs were harassed and attacked by the occupying force of Albanians.

Post-War Yugoslavia
After the war, thousands of Serbs and Montenegrins were prohibited from returning to Kosovo, and thousands of Albanians immigrated into Kosovo.

(as you see the conclusion of the report, WW2 precisely boosted the number of Albanians from less then 300.000 to over 500.000 at the end of WW2 and lowered Serbians to under 200.000)

So If I believe the heroic story of Serbs that always get back Kosova , second Serbs story this happen only one time in story after 523 years. So if the story repeat Serbs will get back Kosova 1999+523 on year 2522. Who knows it will be business as usual!
(dori tirana, 7 February 2012 22:50)
*Believe what you want to believe, but always rememberer everything you do will get back to you, continue with this hate and one day that hate will rebound to you. so I believe Kosovo will get back sooner under Serbian rule then expected ;)

Australian

pre 12 godina

a letter written to German Chancellor Angela Merkel on October 26, 2007 by Dietmar Hartwig, who had been head of the EU (then EC) mission in Kosovo just prior to the NATO bombing in March 1999, when the mission was withdrawn. In describing the situation in Kosovo at a time when the NATO aggression was being prepared on the pretext of “saving the Kosovars”, Hartwig wrote:

“Not a single report submitted in the period from late November 1998 up to the evacuation on the eve of the war mentioned that Serbs had committed any major or systematic crimes against Albanians, nor there was a single case referring to genocide or genocide-like incidents or crimes. Quite the opposite, in my reports I have repeatedly informed that, considering the increasingly more frequent KLA attacks against the Serbian executive, their law enforcement demonstrated remarkable restraint and discipline. The clear and often cited goal of the Serbian administration was to observe the Milosevic-Holbrooke Agreement to the letter so not to provide any excuse to the international community to intervene. … There were huge ‘discrepancies in perception’ between what the missions in Kosovo have been reporting to their respective governments and capitals, and what the latter thereafter released to the media and the public. This discrepancy can only be viewed as input to long-term preparation for war against Yugoslavia. Until the time I left Kosovo, there never happened what the media and, with no less intensity the politicians, were relentlessly claiming. Accordingly, until 20 March 1999 there was no reason for military intervention, which renders illegitimate measures undertaken thereafter by the international community. The collective behavior of EU Member States prior to, and after the war broke out, gives rise to serious concerns, because the truth was killed, and the EU lost reliability.”

http://www.counterpunch.org/2010/09/17/serbia-surrenders-kosovo-to-the-eu/

trizo

pre 12 godina

Why dont you leave Russian names alone, Russian language, flag color, religion, love for corruption lies and totalitarianism?

Why dont you go back to Russia, or wherever in the Asian world you are from.
(koko, 7 February 2012 13:53)

Serbs & Russians = Brothers & Sisters

We're telling you to leave Serbia & Serbian things alone because you are not our brothers and never will be. We're saying to go back to Albania where you belong. Stop stealing our land. Stop trying to change place names. Stop being so patriotic about Albania whilst you're privileged to live in our country (Serbia).

Serbs cannot even have their Serbian christians names in your country. We have to change our name to make it sound MUSLIM. ANd you want to talk about your rights in Presevo Valley?? Serbs have a harder life living in Albania than you do living in Serbia so stop whinging.

miri

pre 12 godina

The "Monkeydonian" guy should be called "Donkeydonian". In their true spirits the censors of B92 did allow that trash coming through, my response with an other name for Albania did not come through. Looks like equal treating for me, Macedonia is much more decent place than that backwards corner of Balkans but in the spirit of "political correctness" B92 is OK with "Monkeydonia" but not OK with the name I came off. Either both or nothing.
(Ataman, 8 February 2012 16:22)

And why is so important for you to throw trash on Albania? You are neither Serb, nor Albanian, nor Macedonian, what's your problem?

Half of Macedonia is populated by Albanians after all, so do you really think is such a big difference between two countries?
Having said this, I deeply disagree with the person who used derogatory word for Macedonians. They are our allies in the fight for Kosova.

Al Mualima

pre 12 godina

(koko, 7 February 2012 13:53)

Asia is the cradle of ALL civilization and has had numerous advanced civilizations . It's ok though, I know you must have an inferiority complex about that. Your ignorance is forgiven. Your bigotry, however, is not.

ida

pre 12 godina

Serbs must not allow this - this is very provocative. If Albanians don't like it they can leave - the names of streets have been there all along and these Albanians have lived fine.
I don't think a few politicians outvoting by 1 member can change so many things. Something like this would have to be a vote by the people and need to be at least 75% for a change AND that it didn't threaten and provoke people. You can't name streets after a terrorist in a very fresh war/skirmish.

They can go back to Albania and rename the streets.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

And why is so important for you to throw trash on Albania? You are neither Serb, nor Albanian, nor Macedonian, what's your problem?
(miri, 8 February 2012 21:39)

Imagine, you coming here and all from Serbian side disappeared. You will feel lonely. I am doing a merciful, democratic and of course humanitarian job to satisfy your daily needs to vist a Serbian site and troll on some virtual enemies there. The disappointing, cold reality is of course much more different - but I should tell all this more merciful way, not just that straight, simple and ruthless.

uk

pre 12 godina

They are respecting the state they live in! They respect law, and those people who decided to change the names respect democratic rules (a majority at the council support that) and the legal procedures of the republic of Serbia. Sorry ...

Ataman

pre 12 godina

The "Monkeydonian" guy should be called "Donkeydonian". In their true spirits the censors of B92 did allow that trash coming through, my response with an other name for Albania did not come through. Looks like equal treating for me, Macedonia is much more decent place than that backwards corner of Balkans but in the spirit of "political correctness" B92 is OK with "Monkeydonia" but not OK with the name I came off. Either both or nothing.