Such a dejavu, why do the Russians go back to the same old thing. Milosevic stories all over again. Promises of dialogue, repression on the ground. Russian support. Incredible.
What are Saudi Arabian products? Oil. I don't think Russia needs Saudi Arabian oil :)
(aaayyy, 8 February 2012 16:59)
Yes, but unlike you:
- geographically I am in Hungary and here that failed Never-Bucko, I mean, Nabucco dreampipe is still a topic.
- I happen to be also American and there the Saudi oil business is an actual topic.
- And yes, I don't want to see a single Saudi outside of Saudi Arabia - even more, all wahabites are welcome to move permanently there, won't miss a single one.
They export pretty tasty date and fig cakes, by the way. I value these more than their dirty oil. :)
I wonder when color revolution in Saudi will happen...
(aaayyy, 7 February 2012 17:41)
Saudi Arabia - unlike Russia - does not need a color revolution because Saudis are already humanitarian, democratic and merciful. And much more "продвинутые" than Russians.
See, in the town of Джида in Buryatiya you can lose your head many times - every time you look into eyes of a young local Buryat girl. However, add one more "д" for Джидда in Saudi Arabia... there you have only one chance to lose your head if you have sex with a local girl. But you don't even need to have sex...
Russia is stuck in the past because gross war crimes against the civil population well planed ahead from the top and executed with humanitarian, democratic and merciful cold blood (Indians, Mexicans, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Dresden, Korea, VietNam, Yugoslavia) were never part of the Russian military doctrine. Not that Russian / Soviet Army did not commit attrocities and we have to be open about it - but not even front-line use of poison gas was ever done. What a backwards, undemocratic and non-humanitarian approach.
Speaking seriously - I am for boycott of any Saudi Arabian products, for cutting any relationship and for stopping to issue any visas to male Saudi citizens, except if married abroad.
One can only accept the Western propaganda machine to come out with some extreme last ditched emotional attempt (Kuwaiti babies, WMD's)to turn the situation around before Russia and China finds a peaceful solution.
Read the Arab report and what is parrotted in the media, the groups or factions claiming to be the opposition have alot to answer for. Why did not the resolution condemn them too?
There is a wonderful old American movie called "The Wizard of Oz". Ever seen it? Remember the scene where the dog Toto pulls aside the curtain and exposed the Wizard as an old silly man projecting loudly on a screen? Russia just pulled aside the curtain. America is so loud and so weak.
Please read this current article on CNN, it will wake you up to what the USA is all about.
Russian policymakers have developed an allergy to Western leaders' moralizing. Just as it was pressing al-Assad to resign, the U.S. State Department quietly lifted a ban on military aid to the Karimov dictatorship in Uzbekistan, which had butchered its own protesters a few years earlier. (Uzbekistan is important for supply lines to NATO troops in Afghanistan.) Neither did Washington press the king of Bahrain -- where the U.S. Navy has a port -- to step down after he crushed popular demonstrations in his capital.
I think the American ambassador is right, Russia is a has-been world power that is trying to stay relevant by supporting the last few client states it has left but the problem is that Syria will almost certainly have a change in government in the near future and that Russia will lose a lot of its influence once that happens, just as we saw in Libya where Russia sided with Gaddafi until the very end and then tried to do an about-face in the last minute. The people of Syria, and the wider Arab world, will very well remember Russia's support for the dictators that killed their people. Vetoing a toothless UN resolution condemning the violence was a strategic mistake for Russia.
This recent article in CNN pretty much sums up what the USA is about. You only love America when you need them, and they support you. After that, you want them to go f-off - isn't that right, Albanians in KiM?
Russian policymakers have developed an allergy to Western leaders' moralizing. Just as it was pressing al-Assad to resign, the U.S. State Department quietly lifted a ban on military aid to the Karimov dictatorship in Uzbekistan, which had butchered its own protesters a few years earlier. (Uzbekistan is important for supply lines to NATO troops in Afghanistan.) Neither did Washington press the king of Bahrain -- where the U.S. Navy has a port -- to step down after he crushed popular demonstrations in his capital.
UN proves only once more to be a toothless tiger. I'm wondering how long Turkey and Saudi Arabia are going to accept that Sunnites, which make the absolute majority in Syria, are butchered by Alawi (under the dress of a pseudo-secular Baath Party) and Shia fanatics.
Lavrov is in Syria after his country and China blocked a UN resolution calling for President Bashar-al Assad to give up power.
B92
Russia and China were also supported by India, Pakistan, Indonesia and South Africa, which are non-permanent members of the UN.These countries alone are nearly half of the world's population let alone other small countries which supported Russia's and China's stance.Furthermore,none of these countries have made it a policy to launch attacks against the Muslim world in the name on 'freedom and democracy'.
The West by submitting their resolution at UN they were trying to con the world in the same way they did with Libya.Their demand for the immediate removal of Assad and the point that the Western-backed armed rebels must not be called on to refrain from violence but only the government amounted to regime change and a free hand for rebel violence. In other words, the resolution's basic goal was to promote civil war in Syria.
The truth is the civil war in Syria is financed with Saudi money and weapons supplied by the CIA and their lackey mullah Erdogan. Nobody buys the sick-making moralising crap from the West about defending the rights of the ordinary Syrians.Its either resources or strategic influence the West is after.In the case of Syria, apart from regime change, the Western aims are to diminish Russian influence in the Middle East and isolate Iran.
Lavrov is in Syria after his country and China blocked a UN resolution calling for President Bashar-al Assad to give up power.
B92
Russia and China were also supported by India, Pakistan, Indonesia and South Africa, which are non-permanent members of the UN.These countries alone are nearly half of the world's population let alone other small countries which supported Russia's and China's stance.Furthermore,none of these countries have made it a policy to launch attacks against the Muslim world in the name on 'freedom and democracy'.
The West by submitting their resolution at UN they were trying to con the world in the same way they did with Libya.Their demand for the immediate removal of Assad and the point that the Western-backed armed rebels must not be called on to refrain from violence but only the government amounted to regime change and a free hand for rebel violence. In other words, the resolution's basic goal was to promote civil war in Syria.
The truth is the civil war in Syria is financed with Saudi money and weapons supplied by the CIA and their lackey mullah Erdogan. Nobody buys the sick-making moralising crap from the West about defending the rights of the ordinary Syrians.Its either resources or strategic influence the West is after.In the case of Syria, apart from regime change, the Western aims are to diminish Russian influence in the Middle East and isolate Iran.
I think the American ambassador is right, Russia is a has-been world power that is trying to stay relevant by supporting the last few client states it has left but the problem is that Syria will almost certainly have a change in government in the near future and that Russia will lose a lot of its influence once that happens, just as we saw in Libya where Russia sided with Gaddafi until the very end and then tried to do an about-face in the last minute. The people of Syria, and the wider Arab world, will very well remember Russia's support for the dictators that killed their people. Vetoing a toothless UN resolution condemning the violence was a strategic mistake for Russia.
UN proves only once more to be a toothless tiger. I'm wondering how long Turkey and Saudi Arabia are going to accept that Sunnites, which make the absolute majority in Syria, are butchered by Alawi (under the dress of a pseudo-secular Baath Party) and Shia fanatics.
This recent article in CNN pretty much sums up what the USA is about. You only love America when you need them, and they support you. After that, you want them to go f-off - isn't that right, Albanians in KiM?
Russian policymakers have developed an allergy to Western leaders' moralizing. Just as it was pressing al-Assad to resign, the U.S. State Department quietly lifted a ban on military aid to the Karimov dictatorship in Uzbekistan, which had butchered its own protesters a few years earlier. (Uzbekistan is important for supply lines to NATO troops in Afghanistan.) Neither did Washington press the king of Bahrain -- where the U.S. Navy has a port -- to step down after he crushed popular demonstrations in his capital.
There is a wonderful old American movie called "The Wizard of Oz". Ever seen it? Remember the scene where the dog Toto pulls aside the curtain and exposed the Wizard as an old silly man projecting loudly on a screen? Russia just pulled aside the curtain. America is so loud and so weak.
One can only accept the Western propaganda machine to come out with some extreme last ditched emotional attempt (Kuwaiti babies, WMD's)to turn the situation around before Russia and China finds a peaceful solution.
Read the Arab report and what is parrotted in the media, the groups or factions claiming to be the opposition have alot to answer for. Why did not the resolution condemn them too?
Please read this current article on CNN, it will wake you up to what the USA is all about.
Russian policymakers have developed an allergy to Western leaders' moralizing. Just as it was pressing al-Assad to resign, the U.S. State Department quietly lifted a ban on military aid to the Karimov dictatorship in Uzbekistan, which had butchered its own protesters a few years earlier. (Uzbekistan is important for supply lines to NATO troops in Afghanistan.) Neither did Washington press the king of Bahrain -- where the U.S. Navy has a port -- to step down after he crushed popular demonstrations in his capital.
I wonder when color revolution in Saudi will happen...
(aaayyy, 7 February 2012 17:41)
Saudi Arabia - unlike Russia - does not need a color revolution because Saudis are already humanitarian, democratic and merciful. And much more "продвинутые" than Russians.
See, in the town of Джида in Buryatiya you can lose your head many times - every time you look into eyes of a young local Buryat girl. However, add one more "д" for Джидда in Saudi Arabia... there you have only one chance to lose your head if you have sex with a local girl. But you don't even need to have sex...
Russia is stuck in the past because gross war crimes against the civil population well planed ahead from the top and executed with humanitarian, democratic and merciful cold blood (Indians, Mexicans, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Dresden, Korea, VietNam, Yugoslavia) were never part of the Russian military doctrine. Not that Russian / Soviet Army did not commit attrocities and we have to be open about it - but not even front-line use of poison gas was ever done. What a backwards, undemocratic and non-humanitarian approach.
Speaking seriously - I am for boycott of any Saudi Arabian products, for cutting any relationship and for stopping to issue any visas to male Saudi citizens, except if married abroad.
What are Saudi Arabian products? Oil. I don't think Russia needs Saudi Arabian oil :)
(aaayyy, 8 February 2012 16:59)
Yes, but unlike you:
- geographically I am in Hungary and here that failed Never-Bucko, I mean, Nabucco dreampipe is still a topic.
- I happen to be also American and there the Saudi oil business is an actual topic.
- And yes, I don't want to see a single Saudi outside of Saudi Arabia - even more, all wahabites are welcome to move permanently there, won't miss a single one.
They export pretty tasty date and fig cakes, by the way. I value these more than their dirty oil. :)
Such a dejavu, why do the Russians go back to the same old thing. Milosevic stories all over again. Promises of dialogue, repression on the ground. Russian support. Incredible.
Lavrov is in Syria after his country and China blocked a UN resolution calling for President Bashar-al Assad to give up power.
B92
Russia and China were also supported by India, Pakistan, Indonesia and South Africa, which are non-permanent members of the UN.These countries alone are nearly half of the world's population let alone other small countries which supported Russia's and China's stance.Furthermore,none of these countries have made it a policy to launch attacks against the Muslim world in the name on 'freedom and democracy'.
The West by submitting their resolution at UN they were trying to con the world in the same way they did with Libya.Their demand for the immediate removal of Assad and the point that the Western-backed armed rebels must not be called on to refrain from violence but only the government amounted to regime change and a free hand for rebel violence. In other words, the resolution's basic goal was to promote civil war in Syria.
The truth is the civil war in Syria is financed with Saudi money and weapons supplied by the CIA and their lackey mullah Erdogan. Nobody buys the sick-making moralising crap from the West about defending the rights of the ordinary Syrians.Its either resources or strategic influence the West is after.In the case of Syria, apart from regime change, the Western aims are to diminish Russian influence in the Middle East and isolate Iran.
This recent article in CNN pretty much sums up what the USA is about. You only love America when you need them, and they support you. After that, you want them to go f-off - isn't that right, Albanians in KiM?
Russian policymakers have developed an allergy to Western leaders' moralizing. Just as it was pressing al-Assad to resign, the U.S. State Department quietly lifted a ban on military aid to the Karimov dictatorship in Uzbekistan, which had butchered its own protesters a few years earlier. (Uzbekistan is important for supply lines to NATO troops in Afghanistan.) Neither did Washington press the king of Bahrain -- where the U.S. Navy has a port -- to step down after he crushed popular demonstrations in his capital.
Please read this current article on CNN, it will wake you up to what the USA is all about.
Russian policymakers have developed an allergy to Western leaders' moralizing. Just as it was pressing al-Assad to resign, the U.S. State Department quietly lifted a ban on military aid to the Karimov dictatorship in Uzbekistan, which had butchered its own protesters a few years earlier. (Uzbekistan is important for supply lines to NATO troops in Afghanistan.) Neither did Washington press the king of Bahrain -- where the U.S. Navy has a port -- to step down after he crushed popular demonstrations in his capital.
UN proves only once more to be a toothless tiger. I'm wondering how long Turkey and Saudi Arabia are going to accept that Sunnites, which make the absolute majority in Syria, are butchered by Alawi (under the dress of a pseudo-secular Baath Party) and Shia fanatics.
I think the American ambassador is right, Russia is a has-been world power that is trying to stay relevant by supporting the last few client states it has left but the problem is that Syria will almost certainly have a change in government in the near future and that Russia will lose a lot of its influence once that happens, just as we saw in Libya where Russia sided with Gaddafi until the very end and then tried to do an about-face in the last minute. The people of Syria, and the wider Arab world, will very well remember Russia's support for the dictators that killed their people. Vetoing a toothless UN resolution condemning the violence was a strategic mistake for Russia.
I wonder when color revolution in Saudi will happen...
(aaayyy, 7 February 2012 17:41)
Saudi Arabia - unlike Russia - does not need a color revolution because Saudis are already humanitarian, democratic and merciful. And much more "продвинутые" than Russians.
See, in the town of Джида in Buryatiya you can lose your head many times - every time you look into eyes of a young local Buryat girl. However, add one more "д" for Джидда in Saudi Arabia... there you have only one chance to lose your head if you have sex with a local girl. But you don't even need to have sex...
Russia is stuck in the past because gross war crimes against the civil population well planed ahead from the top and executed with humanitarian, democratic and merciful cold blood (Indians, Mexicans, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Dresden, Korea, VietNam, Yugoslavia) were never part of the Russian military doctrine. Not that Russian / Soviet Army did not commit attrocities and we have to be open about it - but not even front-line use of poison gas was ever done. What a backwards, undemocratic and non-humanitarian approach.
Speaking seriously - I am for boycott of any Saudi Arabian products, for cutting any relationship and for stopping to issue any visas to male Saudi citizens, except if married abroad.
One can only accept the Western propaganda machine to come out with some extreme last ditched emotional attempt (Kuwaiti babies, WMD's)to turn the situation around before Russia and China finds a peaceful solution.
Read the Arab report and what is parrotted in the media, the groups or factions claiming to be the opposition have alot to answer for. Why did not the resolution condemn them too?
There is a wonderful old American movie called "The Wizard of Oz". Ever seen it? Remember the scene where the dog Toto pulls aside the curtain and exposed the Wizard as an old silly man projecting loudly on a screen? Russia just pulled aside the curtain. America is so loud and so weak.
What are Saudi Arabian products? Oil. I don't think Russia needs Saudi Arabian oil :)
(aaayyy, 8 February 2012 16:59)
Yes, but unlike you:
- geographically I am in Hungary and here that failed Never-Bucko, I mean, Nabucco dreampipe is still a topic.
- I happen to be also American and there the Saudi oil business is an actual topic.
- And yes, I don't want to see a single Saudi outside of Saudi Arabia - even more, all wahabites are welcome to move permanently there, won't miss a single one.
They export pretty tasty date and fig cakes, by the way. I value these more than their dirty oil. :)
Such a dejavu, why do the Russians go back to the same old thing. Milosevic stories all over again. Promises of dialogue, repression on the ground. Russian support. Incredible.
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