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Tuesday, 17.01.2012.

09:56

"Candidacy not possible without German support"

President Boris Tadić says Serbia could not receive candidate status to join the EU without the support of Germany, the "engine" of EU enlargement.

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German take 2

pre 12 godina

Should I scan my passport or what (I have only one, its German and I do not have any Serbian ancestry)? Indeed I do belong to the 10% who are interested in Serbian politics. Surely nobody can deny that recent Serbian history is full of crimes and atrocities, but our premature recognition of Croatia did not help matters during the Civil war. Like it or not but the German people were bludgeoned into participating in the Kosovo war by lies. By bs like the "horseshoe"- plan that should prove that Serbs were turning Kosovo into a concentration camp. Even documentaries of our state TV-station ARD and ZDF are admitting that the war was based upon a lie. Were there crimes? Most certainly! A plan for the swift elimination of Albanians however did not exist. Above all, the UCK, certainly itself involved in anti-Serbian ethnic cleansing, was portayed to us as the second coming of the Polish home army or the French resistance. Ironically triggering our guilt made us bombing one of the Nations that suffered the most during WWII. "Never again!" Yeah right.

miri the Greek or Canadian or Albanian or American. I do own all these citizenships.

pre 12 godina

To the German.

I guess you answered your own question. If you were really a German you wouldn't care writing in this forum, unless of course you are interested which means you are not a german but most likely a Serb.

EA

pre 12 godina

"...resolution... he said... was a binding U.N. act which defines Serbia's integrity in Kosovo..."

I doubt with that kind of lo gic Serbia will ever get closer to EU let's not talk about Kosovo. In other words Serbia is prepared to lose both Kosovo of course and EU. Should it call selfdestruction? I leave it toyou guys. One thing it is clear DON'T CONTINUE BLAME the others for your misjudgments. It is not in Germany's hand Serbia's EU candidacy BUT in Serbia's hands. One last thing wasn't Serbia who applied to ICJ to nullify Kosovo independence?

Flash Gordon (ruler of the universe)

pre 12 godina

As a German the reasons why we conduct our foreign policy in such an anti-Serbian way eludes me. It certainly does not sway voters to your favor to act in such a way. I would wager that 90% of all Germans are absolutely and utterly uninterested in the Kosovo question while those who show interest are certainly more inclined towards sympathy with Serbia.
(German, 17 January 2012 16:20)

It eludes you? Have you spent the last 20 years in a coma? And you can also claim to be a Swiss, Russian or whatever pleases you.

German

pre 12 godina

As a German the reasons why we conduct our foreign policy in such an anti-Serbian way eludes me. It certainly does not sway voters to your favor to act in such a way. I would wager that 90% of all Germans are absolutely and utterly uninterested in the Kosovo question while those who show interest are certainly more inclined towards sympathy with Serbia. Small wonder if you look at the criminal record of Albanians in Germany. Obviously this does not concern our politicians at all. I'd just really like to know why. What is the reasoning of our foreign ministry?

Dragan

pre 12 godina

"We need to hold deeper dialog with Germany, we have to explain Serbia's position because without Germany's support Serbia cannot obtain candidate status," Tadić said at the annual conference of Serbian ambassadors, Beta news agency is reporting.'

No we don't need deeper dialogue with Germany, they know the issues very well and are hell bent on screwing Serbia. We need to show ze Germans the middle finger and tell them to p... off. They are our enemy, just look at their actions if you don't believe me, and it will be clear. We need to kick out their ambassador and tell them we are not interested in joining their Fourth Reich and will remain free and independent. History does indeed repeat itself.
Cheers!!

my Serbian friend, EU will prevail, you won't

pre 12 godina

German politicians are always welcome to Belgrade, if they have any progressive propositions in their suitcase AND if they have any authority at all. =)

remember those Westerwelle´s and Fischer´s ...nobody cares for them today, except perhaps the K-albanians... =)
(Jovan, 17 January 2012 13:13)

Keep that in mind when Serbia is receiving the next EU aid.
Jovan, stand up like the Serb nationalist you are and tell your government not to take that dirty German money. Rather sell something to the Russians. Upps, nothing left to sell.

Jovan

pre 12 godina

Luigi is not the only italian who is frustrated about the EU. and that is quite good, when it comes to the question of KiM.

Time works for Serbia. and if Germany refuses to give the green light, what I would see as a goog development, it would even speed up things inside Serbia.

all those Ian´s and whoever was bragging about the big and mighty EU will have to swallow their bitter pill. only a question of time, I guess.

as far as anything is to be done between Belgrade and Berlin, Lufthansa is not needed. JAT is a highly professional alternative. German politicians are always welcome to Belgrade, if they have any progressive propositions in their suitcase AND if they have any authority at all. =)

remember those Westerwelle´s and Fischer´s ...nobody cares for them today, except perhaps the K-albanians... =)

lowe

pre 12 godina

"Germany is actually the dictator or better "fuhrer" of what it was once known as EU..NOW IS CALLED "Germany and partners "...So is clear that if you want to join this club you have to be a "friend" of the boss...Nothing new but Mr.1000 MILES TRAVELLED ALL THE EXOTIC PLACES in order to obtain the candidate status..instead it needs only one ticket...Belgrade-Berlin with Lufthansa...
(Luigi, 17 January 2012 10:44)"

Methinks the Germans actually want more than "Germany and partners" which is after all a regional grouping and far from worldwide ..... they have also wanted permanent membership in the hallowed UNSC for a long time now ..... gosh! a thought just occur to me! Will they get to replace London in the UNSC when the Scots bolt the UK?????? Methinks Ian UK must be worried sick by now! Ha ha ha!

But seriously, I wonder how many Italians have since become disillusioned about the EU. And I won't be surprised if there are many, many more like just Luigi. (I'm assuming from past posts that Luigi is from Italy. Apologies in advance if I am mistaken).

Luigi

pre 12 godina

Germany is actually the dictator or better "fuhrer" of what it was once known as EU..NOW IS CALLED "Germany and partners "...So is clear that if you want to join this club you have to be a "friend" of the boss...Nothing new but Mr.1000 MILES TRAVELLED ALL THE EXOTIC PLACES in order to obtain the candidate status..instead it needs only one ticket...Belgrade-Berlin with Lufthansa...

lowe

pre 12 godina

"Germany is actually the dictator or better "fuhrer" of what it was once known as EU..NOW IS CALLED "Germany and partners "...So is clear that if you want to join this club you have to be a "friend" of the boss...Nothing new but Mr.1000 MILES TRAVELLED ALL THE EXOTIC PLACES in order to obtain the candidate status..instead it needs only one ticket...Belgrade-Berlin with Lufthansa...
(Luigi, 17 January 2012 10:44)"

Methinks the Germans actually want more than "Germany and partners" which is after all a regional grouping and far from worldwide ..... they have also wanted permanent membership in the hallowed UNSC for a long time now ..... gosh! a thought just occur to me! Will they get to replace London in the UNSC when the Scots bolt the UK?????? Methinks Ian UK must be worried sick by now! Ha ha ha!

But seriously, I wonder how many Italians have since become disillusioned about the EU. And I won't be surprised if there are many, many more like just Luigi. (I'm assuming from past posts that Luigi is from Italy. Apologies in advance if I am mistaken).

Dragan

pre 12 godina

"We need to hold deeper dialog with Germany, we have to explain Serbia's position because without Germany's support Serbia cannot obtain candidate status," Tadić said at the annual conference of Serbian ambassadors, Beta news agency is reporting.'

No we don't need deeper dialogue with Germany, they know the issues very well and are hell bent on screwing Serbia. We need to show ze Germans the middle finger and tell them to p... off. They are our enemy, just look at their actions if you don't believe me, and it will be clear. We need to kick out their ambassador and tell them we are not interested in joining their Fourth Reich and will remain free and independent. History does indeed repeat itself.
Cheers!!

Flash Gordon (ruler of the universe)

pre 12 godina

As a German the reasons why we conduct our foreign policy in such an anti-Serbian way eludes me. It certainly does not sway voters to your favor to act in such a way. I would wager that 90% of all Germans are absolutely and utterly uninterested in the Kosovo question while those who show interest are certainly more inclined towards sympathy with Serbia.
(German, 17 January 2012 16:20)

It eludes you? Have you spent the last 20 years in a coma? And you can also claim to be a Swiss, Russian or whatever pleases you.

my Serbian friend, EU will prevail, you won't

pre 12 godina

German politicians are always welcome to Belgrade, if they have any progressive propositions in their suitcase AND if they have any authority at all. =)

remember those Westerwelle´s and Fischer´s ...nobody cares for them today, except perhaps the K-albanians... =)
(Jovan, 17 January 2012 13:13)

Keep that in mind when Serbia is receiving the next EU aid.
Jovan, stand up like the Serb nationalist you are and tell your government not to take that dirty German money. Rather sell something to the Russians. Upps, nothing left to sell.

Jovan

pre 12 godina

Luigi is not the only italian who is frustrated about the EU. and that is quite good, when it comes to the question of KiM.

Time works for Serbia. and if Germany refuses to give the green light, what I would see as a goog development, it would even speed up things inside Serbia.

all those Ian´s and whoever was bragging about the big and mighty EU will have to swallow their bitter pill. only a question of time, I guess.

as far as anything is to be done between Belgrade and Berlin, Lufthansa is not needed. JAT is a highly professional alternative. German politicians are always welcome to Belgrade, if they have any progressive propositions in their suitcase AND if they have any authority at all. =)

remember those Westerwelle´s and Fischer´s ...nobody cares for them today, except perhaps the K-albanians... =)

German

pre 12 godina

As a German the reasons why we conduct our foreign policy in such an anti-Serbian way eludes me. It certainly does not sway voters to your favor to act in such a way. I would wager that 90% of all Germans are absolutely and utterly uninterested in the Kosovo question while those who show interest are certainly more inclined towards sympathy with Serbia. Small wonder if you look at the criminal record of Albanians in Germany. Obviously this does not concern our politicians at all. I'd just really like to know why. What is the reasoning of our foreign ministry?

Luigi

pre 12 godina

Germany is actually the dictator or better "fuhrer" of what it was once known as EU..NOW IS CALLED "Germany and partners "...So is clear that if you want to join this club you have to be a "friend" of the boss...Nothing new but Mr.1000 MILES TRAVELLED ALL THE EXOTIC PLACES in order to obtain the candidate status..instead it needs only one ticket...Belgrade-Berlin with Lufthansa...

EA

pre 12 godina

"...resolution... he said... was a binding U.N. act which defines Serbia's integrity in Kosovo..."

I doubt with that kind of lo gic Serbia will ever get closer to EU let's not talk about Kosovo. In other words Serbia is prepared to lose both Kosovo of course and EU. Should it call selfdestruction? I leave it toyou guys. One thing it is clear DON'T CONTINUE BLAME the others for your misjudgments. It is not in Germany's hand Serbia's EU candidacy BUT in Serbia's hands. One last thing wasn't Serbia who applied to ICJ to nullify Kosovo independence?

miri the Greek or Canadian or Albanian or American. I do own all these citizenships.

pre 12 godina

To the German.

I guess you answered your own question. If you were really a German you wouldn't care writing in this forum, unless of course you are interested which means you are not a german but most likely a Serb.

German take 2

pre 12 godina

Should I scan my passport or what (I have only one, its German and I do not have any Serbian ancestry)? Indeed I do belong to the 10% who are interested in Serbian politics. Surely nobody can deny that recent Serbian history is full of crimes and atrocities, but our premature recognition of Croatia did not help matters during the Civil war. Like it or not but the German people were bludgeoned into participating in the Kosovo war by lies. By bs like the "horseshoe"- plan that should prove that Serbs were turning Kosovo into a concentration camp. Even documentaries of our state TV-station ARD and ZDF are admitting that the war was based upon a lie. Were there crimes? Most certainly! A plan for the swift elimination of Albanians however did not exist. Above all, the UCK, certainly itself involved in anti-Serbian ethnic cleansing, was portayed to us as the second coming of the Polish home army or the French resistance. Ironically triggering our guilt made us bombing one of the Nations that suffered the most during WWII. "Never again!" Yeah right.

Luigi

pre 12 godina

Germany is actually the dictator or better "fuhrer" of what it was once known as EU..NOW IS CALLED "Germany and partners "...So is clear that if you want to join this club you have to be a "friend" of the boss...Nothing new but Mr.1000 MILES TRAVELLED ALL THE EXOTIC PLACES in order to obtain the candidate status..instead it needs only one ticket...Belgrade-Berlin with Lufthansa...

German

pre 12 godina

As a German the reasons why we conduct our foreign policy in such an anti-Serbian way eludes me. It certainly does not sway voters to your favor to act in such a way. I would wager that 90% of all Germans are absolutely and utterly uninterested in the Kosovo question while those who show interest are certainly more inclined towards sympathy with Serbia. Small wonder if you look at the criminal record of Albanians in Germany. Obviously this does not concern our politicians at all. I'd just really like to know why. What is the reasoning of our foreign ministry?

Jovan

pre 12 godina

Luigi is not the only italian who is frustrated about the EU. and that is quite good, when it comes to the question of KiM.

Time works for Serbia. and if Germany refuses to give the green light, what I would see as a goog development, it would even speed up things inside Serbia.

all those Ian´s and whoever was bragging about the big and mighty EU will have to swallow their bitter pill. only a question of time, I guess.

as far as anything is to be done between Belgrade and Berlin, Lufthansa is not needed. JAT is a highly professional alternative. German politicians are always welcome to Belgrade, if they have any progressive propositions in their suitcase AND if they have any authority at all. =)

remember those Westerwelle´s and Fischer´s ...nobody cares for them today, except perhaps the K-albanians... =)

my Serbian friend, EU will prevail, you won't

pre 12 godina

German politicians are always welcome to Belgrade, if they have any progressive propositions in their suitcase AND if they have any authority at all. =)

remember those Westerwelle´s and Fischer´s ...nobody cares for them today, except perhaps the K-albanians... =)
(Jovan, 17 January 2012 13:13)

Keep that in mind when Serbia is receiving the next EU aid.
Jovan, stand up like the Serb nationalist you are and tell your government not to take that dirty German money. Rather sell something to the Russians. Upps, nothing left to sell.

lowe

pre 12 godina

"Germany is actually the dictator or better "fuhrer" of what it was once known as EU..NOW IS CALLED "Germany and partners "...So is clear that if you want to join this club you have to be a "friend" of the boss...Nothing new but Mr.1000 MILES TRAVELLED ALL THE EXOTIC PLACES in order to obtain the candidate status..instead it needs only one ticket...Belgrade-Berlin with Lufthansa...
(Luigi, 17 January 2012 10:44)"

Methinks the Germans actually want more than "Germany and partners" which is after all a regional grouping and far from worldwide ..... they have also wanted permanent membership in the hallowed UNSC for a long time now ..... gosh! a thought just occur to me! Will they get to replace London in the UNSC when the Scots bolt the UK?????? Methinks Ian UK must be worried sick by now! Ha ha ha!

But seriously, I wonder how many Italians have since become disillusioned about the EU. And I won't be surprised if there are many, many more like just Luigi. (I'm assuming from past posts that Luigi is from Italy. Apologies in advance if I am mistaken).

German take 2

pre 12 godina

Should I scan my passport or what (I have only one, its German and I do not have any Serbian ancestry)? Indeed I do belong to the 10% who are interested in Serbian politics. Surely nobody can deny that recent Serbian history is full of crimes and atrocities, but our premature recognition of Croatia did not help matters during the Civil war. Like it or not but the German people were bludgeoned into participating in the Kosovo war by lies. By bs like the "horseshoe"- plan that should prove that Serbs were turning Kosovo into a concentration camp. Even documentaries of our state TV-station ARD and ZDF are admitting that the war was based upon a lie. Were there crimes? Most certainly! A plan for the swift elimination of Albanians however did not exist. Above all, the UCK, certainly itself involved in anti-Serbian ethnic cleansing, was portayed to us as the second coming of the Polish home army or the French resistance. Ironically triggering our guilt made us bombing one of the Nations that suffered the most during WWII. "Never again!" Yeah right.

EA

pre 12 godina

"...resolution... he said... was a binding U.N. act which defines Serbia's integrity in Kosovo..."

I doubt with that kind of lo gic Serbia will ever get closer to EU let's not talk about Kosovo. In other words Serbia is prepared to lose both Kosovo of course and EU. Should it call selfdestruction? I leave it toyou guys. One thing it is clear DON'T CONTINUE BLAME the others for your misjudgments. It is not in Germany's hand Serbia's EU candidacy BUT in Serbia's hands. One last thing wasn't Serbia who applied to ICJ to nullify Kosovo independence?

Dragan

pre 12 godina

"We need to hold deeper dialog with Germany, we have to explain Serbia's position because without Germany's support Serbia cannot obtain candidate status," Tadić said at the annual conference of Serbian ambassadors, Beta news agency is reporting.'

No we don't need deeper dialogue with Germany, they know the issues very well and are hell bent on screwing Serbia. We need to show ze Germans the middle finger and tell them to p... off. They are our enemy, just look at their actions if you don't believe me, and it will be clear. We need to kick out their ambassador and tell them we are not interested in joining their Fourth Reich and will remain free and independent. History does indeed repeat itself.
Cheers!!

Flash Gordon (ruler of the universe)

pre 12 godina

As a German the reasons why we conduct our foreign policy in such an anti-Serbian way eludes me. It certainly does not sway voters to your favor to act in such a way. I would wager that 90% of all Germans are absolutely and utterly uninterested in the Kosovo question while those who show interest are certainly more inclined towards sympathy with Serbia.
(German, 17 January 2012 16:20)

It eludes you? Have you spent the last 20 years in a coma? And you can also claim to be a Swiss, Russian or whatever pleases you.

miri the Greek or Canadian or Albanian or American. I do own all these citizenships.

pre 12 godina

To the German.

I guess you answered your own question. If you were really a German you wouldn't care writing in this forum, unless of course you are interested which means you are not a german but most likely a Serb.