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Sunday, 15.01.2012.

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150 K. Albanians arrested during protest

Three K. Albanian Self-Determination Movement MPs, who were arrested during a protest near the Bela Zemlja crossing Saturday, were released after questioning.

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icj1

pre 12 godina

Firstly, the EU will NEVER and let me repeat that one for the hard of hearing NEVER allow Kosovo to join with Albania to create a future large Islamic state in its midst.
(sj, 16 January 2012 22:12)

Absolutely, you are correct, if and when the EU puts you in charge of taking decisions for the EU.
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Secondly, Albania would collapse if Kosovo did join as it does not have the financial reserves to absorb that region. You do have to remember that Albania itself can barely keep its head above water and to take on an extra burden, then it would snap in two like a pretzel.
(sj, 16 January 2012 22:12)

I’m sure the Albanians do appreciate your deep concern for them and will take the above fully into account.
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Let me repeat that with the EU going down the road of bankruptcy they will want to divest themselves of places like Kosovo
(sj, 16 January 2012 22:12)

Absolutely… I fully agreed with you before. If the EU is going down the road of bankruptcy they will want to divest themselves of places like Kosovo because to keep an independent Kosovo is too much; all they have to do is precisely have Kosovo to join Albania, so they don't have to deal with Kosovo any more.

sj

pre 12 godina

But if the EU is running out of cash and to keep an independent Kosovo is too much all they have to do is precisely have Kosovo to join Albania, so they don't have to deal with Kosovo any more.
(icj1, 16 January 2012 16:29)


Firstly, the EU will NEVER and let me repeat that one for the hard of hearing NEVER allow Kosovo to join with Albania to create a future large Islamic state in its midst.

Secondly, Albania would collapse if Kosovo did join as it does not have the financial reserves to absorb that region. You do have to remember that Albania itself can barely keep its head above water and to take on an extra burden, then it would snap in two like a pretzel.

A good yard stick is the former East Germany where billions of marks were spent by the central government on trying to integrate it.

Let me repeat that with the EU going down the road of bankruptcy they will want to divest themselves of places like Kosovo and very quietly return it to the rightful owners. All of these talks are designed to bring them closer and closer and then the EU will walk away.

think about it.

pre 12 godina

I see you have not caught on this western trickery yet? They have realised that the EU is running out of cash and to keep an independent Kosovo is too much and they will never allow Kosovo to join Albania so it’s back to the future; try and put humpty dumpty back together again.
(sj, 16 January 2012 02:31)
See but they also realize that money is going to have to be spent on Kosovo, Serbia has none, nada, zip and so they can either put the money directly into independent Kosovo, or funnel it through Serbia which would be 10 times as expensive as most would be siphoned off before it ever made it to Kosovo.
Try as much as you like, downplay the ability of the west, predict the doomsday of all of Europe and the US. But no one and I mean no one has even hinted at the idea of reversing their decision on Kosovo.
Europe falls, Russia will have no further use for Serbia and it will become a ghetto in the new fallen Europe. It has no means of self sustainment either. You are going from source to source to borrow every penny you can and for what your economy is where it was 5 years ago. Wages have not increased a penny while your prices have doubled. So keep hoping for the obliteration of your own people. Because that is where you are headed should Europe actually collapse.

icj1

pre 12 godina

I see you have not caught on this western trickery yet? They have realised that the EU is running out of cash and to keep an independent Kosovo is too much and they will never allow Kosovo to join Albania so it’s back to the future; try and put humpty dumpty back together again.
(sj, 16 January 2012 02:31)

But if the EU is running out of cash and to keep an independent Kosovo is too much all they have to do is precisely have Kosovo to join Albania, so they don't have to deal with Kosovo any more.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

"Vetevendosje has an agenda and they are a modern civilized movement generally, although I dont agree with them."
(Denis, 15 January 2012 20:13)

If it is like that, then why they behave like extremists, similar to Serbian radicals?

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

Serbs, you can enjoy Thaqi's support for now. Lets see what happens when Albani Kurti wins the elections ;).
(GFooc, 15 January 2012 22:43)

If Albani Kurti wins the elections it will be easier for Serbs to negotiate with KFOR returning of Serbian police to Kosovo.

Peggy

pre 12 godina

Serbs, you can enjoy Thaqi's support for now. Lets see what happens when Albani Kurti wins the elections ;).
(GFooc, 15 January 2012 22:43)
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And what would that be?

sj

pre 12 godina

Serbs, you can enjoy Thaqi's support for now. Lets see what happens when Albani Kurti wins the elections ;).
(GFooc, 15 January 2012 22:43)

If Kurti wins there will be absolutely no change what so ever – you will get more of the same. You have to look at Kosovo in its true context and as it relies on EU aid for almost everything then Kurti will do as he is told.

I’ll be kind and tell you right now; Kurti is only carrying on because he wants to get elected and the general population sees a change from the current stagnation, but once in office its going to be more of the same. I can guarantee you that.



Measures of reciprocity should be encouraged not inhibited by Thaci and the government. This issue and others like it will not go away until they are properly adressed.

Also no Kosovo license plate! No Kosovo entry!

Why allow this when Serbs prohibit K. license plates in Serbia?
(Joe, 15 January 2012 19:24)

I see you have not caught on this western trickery yet? They have realised that the EU is running out of cash and to keep an independent Kosovo is too much and they will never allow Kosovo to join Albania so it’s back to the future; try and put humpty dumpty back together again.

Look Slovenia is in the EU but it has to work with Serbia to survive and the same now applies with Croatia. You can guess who will be in control and who will reap the profits and it is not Croatia or Slovenia.

JohnBoy

pre 12 godina

What a joke! Can't say you albos with your american joke writers don't give me an occasional laugh. Your pseudo police representing your pseudo state arrest your pseudo parliament at your pseudo border. Then your pseudo judges will hold pseudo trials and hand out pseudo punishment. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Eat my real shorts.

Peggy

pre 12 godina

I don't understand why Serbs are so interested in these protests. Stuff like this happens in Serbia almost after every soccer game.
(Avni, 15 January 2012 17:41)
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Why are YOU interested in Serbian affairs? You guys come out here constantly commenting on anything connected to Serbia and here you are wondering why we are interested in what happens in Kovoso. Anything that happens in Kosovo has a direct impact on our people.

Any other smart questions?

Denis

pre 12 godina

Cool, Albaniac nationalists clashing with their own cops - not sure what they want to prove here, though. If it's about goods coming from Serbia, then just boycott their retailers that sell them. Wouldn't that be easier and more peaceful than throwing crap at your own police and injuring them? But who ever said nationalists have brains?
(winston, 15 January 2012 11:26)

Vetevendosje has an agenda and they are a modern civilized movement generally, although I dont agree with them. The answer to your question as of why they do not boycott the retailers is that, that's not a practical thing to do, and that it is hard to fight against the immediate neccesity for goods at that level.

Vetvendosje has a point if Serbia is blocking Kosovo goods on its side.Kosovo exports have reached some $500M, and growing, and if Serbia is affecting that growth, Kosovo will have to impose a restricion until an agreement is reached. I don't think Kosovo is being unreasonable here, I believe Serbia is, and with that it is raising tensions, which will come to bite them in the behinds like always have, cuz Kurti soon might win the election and Serbia will say goodbye to $300+M of exports. Is that worth it? Serbia will be the judge I guess. But I think that if there one hope for some kind of reconciliation in the region, that is economic cooperation, let them do business together. If both sides do business together and prosper things will calm down and get better.

Peggy

pre 12 godina

Jeff, your comment reeks of desperation. You and your pals sj, peggy, spc uk, trizo et al. and your 5th grade logic makes you look immature.
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Someone's sounding desperate hence the attempt at insults.

Joe

pre 12 godina

Measures of reciprocity should be encouraged not inhibited by Thaci and the government. This issue and others like it will not go away until they are properly adressed.

Also no Kosovo license plate! No Kosovo entry!

Why allow this when Serbs prohibit K. license plates in Serbia?

metrod

pre 12 godina

"EA-Uh no actually. How can there be reciprocity between the same country. Reciprocity with your country Albania absolutely though.
Jeff

Jeff, your comment reeks of desperation. You and your pals sj, peggy, spc uk, trizo et al. and your 5th grade logic makes you look immature.

Next, I expect to read momma jokes from you.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

"To all Serbian readers: Do you see how much Hashim Thaci loves Serbia? He was able to arrest 150 Albanian just so Serbs and Serbian goods can enter Kosovo.
(Nexh, 15 January 2012 12:29)

To all Albanian readers: The Thaci regime might not be democratically elected, but nevertheless it's the job of the police to ensure the public order and don't allow some extremist to block roads. And arrest are fine when these protesters are not peaceful and injure police officers.

winston

pre 12 godina

It is not as simplistic as that. IT IS ABOUT RECIPROCITY in any relationship with Serbia. Serbia is not allowing goods entering from Kosovo. Serbia is not asking the Serbs in Belgraded for example not to buy goods from Kosovo. Does it make more sense to you now? If not I will try to explain in a more simplistic way....))
(EA, 15 January 2012 12:40) Mr. or Mrs. EA - Ethnic Albanian, I presume, please do not the high horse and try and sound more intelligent than I am - because you are surely not. The point I made is quite legit - why doesn't your separatist movement boycott Albanian retailers that sell Serbian goods? That would be a lot easier than fighting with police at administrative crossings, but maybe not get as many headlines - and this is what this is all about. These nationalists that are trying to show they are more Albanian than Thaci, are campaigning, and trying to win backing from ignorant voters - simple as that. So keep explaining you reciprocity to all, and in a more simple way to me, if that makes you feel smarter, but be honest and factual in your responses. Wonder if there's a MENSA membership card in your wallet - I doubt it.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

They should have protested when Thaci sent police to guard Kosovo-central Serbian border. They should have said "This isn't our land (northern Kosovo) and we don't want our Albanian people to go and die there"

Steve B.

pre 12 godina

To all Serbian readers: Do you see how much Hashim Thaci loves Serbia? He was able to arrest 150 Albanian just so Serbs and Serbian goods can enter Kosovo. I Dare you to call him a bad person anymore, he loves you more than he loves his own country.
(Nexh, 15 January 2012 12:29)

Even all the Serbs he had murdered?

ardi asllani

pre 12 godina

EA-Uh no actually. How can there be reciprocity between the same country. Reciprocity with your country Albania absolutely though.
(Jeff, 15 January 2012 13:35)

between the same country???
In that case Serbian gendarmeri should have been dealing with the said protest , rather than Kosova police.Keep on dreaming body.

SCP UK

pre 12 godina

Englebert is absolutely right. What on earth is produced in Kosovo that Serbia needs or wants? I assume Kosovo's main exports are drugs, prostitutes and organs, I dont think any other European country wants those things.

icj1

pre 12 godina

Serbia is not allowing goods entering from Kosovo in response to UDI, that was/is an adequate reaction.
(aaayyy, 15 January 2012 15:03)

That does not make sense, dear. Apparently you are not informed. The UDI does not exist; it was annulled by Kostunica's government almost 4 years ago:

http://www.b92.net/eng/insight/strategies.php?yyyy=2008&mm=02&nav_id=47715

Reaction against something that does not exist sounds like Don Quixote tilting at windmills

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

IT IS ABOUT RECIPROCITY in any relationship with Serbia. Serbia is not allowing goods entering from Kosovo.
(EA, 15 January 2012 12:40)

Serbia is not allowing goods entering from Kosovo in response to UDI, that was/is an adequate reaction.

icj1

pre 12 godina

EA-Uh no actually. How can there be reciprocity between the same country. Reciprocity with your country Albania absolutely though.
(Jeff, 15 January 2012 13:35)

It does not matter dear. Even if Kosovo is Serbia, then there should be equality of the citizens. Place A is Serbia should not have more or less rights than place B.

lili

pre 12 godina

Serbia now will have trouble to label thaci as antiserbian!
Goods from Serbia are fulling thaci network of shops.
But Albanians will continue their resistance and block these traffics.Count down has began

Berk.

pre 12 godina

Imagine the river of tears coming from Belgrade and elsewhere if KPS would have arrested 150 Serbs on barricades. Thaci is really interested that Serbs can make their business in Kosovo.

Englebert

pre 12 godina

It is not as simplistic as that. IT IS ABOUT RECIPROCITY in any relationship with Serbia. Serbia is not allowing goods entering from Kosovo. Serbia is not asking the Serbs in Belgraded for example not to buy goods from Kosovo. Does it make more sense to you now? If not I will try to explain in a more simplistic way....))
(EA, 15 January 2012 12:40)

Reciprocity would mean that Kosovo has something legal they produce which can be sold in Serbia. Mind telling us what that is?

Nexh

pre 12 godina

To all Serbian readers: Do you see how much Hashim Thaci loves Serbia? He was able to arrest 150 Albanian just so Serbs and Serbian goods can enter Kosovo. I Dare you to call him a bad person anymore, he loves you more than he loves his own country.

EA

pre 12 godina

"If it's about goods coming from Serbia, then just boycott their retailers that sell them."

Winston,

It is not as simplistic as that. IT IS ABOUT RECIPROCITY in any relationship with Serbia. Serbia is not allowing goods entering from Kosovo. Serbia is not asking the Serbs in Belgraded for example not to buy goods from Kosovo. Does it make more sense to you now? If not I will try to explain in a more simplistic way....))

winston

pre 12 godina

Cool, Albaniac nationalists clashing with their own cops - not sure what they want to prove here, though. If it's about goods coming from Serbia, then just boycott their retailers that sell them. Wouldn't that be easier and more peaceful than throwing crap at your own police and injuring them? But who ever said nationalists have brains?

winston

pre 12 godina

Cool, Albaniac nationalists clashing with their own cops - not sure what they want to prove here, though. If it's about goods coming from Serbia, then just boycott their retailers that sell them. Wouldn't that be easier and more peaceful than throwing crap at your own police and injuring them? But who ever said nationalists have brains?

Englebert

pre 12 godina

It is not as simplistic as that. IT IS ABOUT RECIPROCITY in any relationship with Serbia. Serbia is not allowing goods entering from Kosovo. Serbia is not asking the Serbs in Belgraded for example not to buy goods from Kosovo. Does it make more sense to you now? If not I will try to explain in a more simplistic way....))
(EA, 15 January 2012 12:40)

Reciprocity would mean that Kosovo has something legal they produce which can be sold in Serbia. Mind telling us what that is?

Nexh

pre 12 godina

To all Serbian readers: Do you see how much Hashim Thaci loves Serbia? He was able to arrest 150 Albanian just so Serbs and Serbian goods can enter Kosovo. I Dare you to call him a bad person anymore, he loves you more than he loves his own country.

EA

pre 12 godina

"If it's about goods coming from Serbia, then just boycott their retailers that sell them."

Winston,

It is not as simplistic as that. IT IS ABOUT RECIPROCITY in any relationship with Serbia. Serbia is not allowing goods entering from Kosovo. Serbia is not asking the Serbs in Belgraded for example not to buy goods from Kosovo. Does it make more sense to you now? If not I will try to explain in a more simplistic way....))

ardi asllani

pre 12 godina

EA-Uh no actually. How can there be reciprocity between the same country. Reciprocity with your country Albania absolutely though.
(Jeff, 15 January 2012 13:35)

between the same country???
In that case Serbian gendarmeri should have been dealing with the said protest , rather than Kosova police.Keep on dreaming body.

SCP UK

pre 12 godina

Englebert is absolutely right. What on earth is produced in Kosovo that Serbia needs or wants? I assume Kosovo's main exports are drugs, prostitutes and organs, I dont think any other European country wants those things.

Berk.

pre 12 godina

Imagine the river of tears coming from Belgrade and elsewhere if KPS would have arrested 150 Serbs on barricades. Thaci is really interested that Serbs can make their business in Kosovo.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

IT IS ABOUT RECIPROCITY in any relationship with Serbia. Serbia is not allowing goods entering from Kosovo.
(EA, 15 January 2012 12:40)

Serbia is not allowing goods entering from Kosovo in response to UDI, that was/is an adequate reaction.

lili

pre 12 godina

Serbia now will have trouble to label thaci as antiserbian!
Goods from Serbia are fulling thaci network of shops.
But Albanians will continue their resistance and block these traffics.Count down has began

winston

pre 12 godina

It is not as simplistic as that. IT IS ABOUT RECIPROCITY in any relationship with Serbia. Serbia is not allowing goods entering from Kosovo. Serbia is not asking the Serbs in Belgraded for example not to buy goods from Kosovo. Does it make more sense to you now? If not I will try to explain in a more simplistic way....))
(EA, 15 January 2012 12:40) Mr. or Mrs. EA - Ethnic Albanian, I presume, please do not the high horse and try and sound more intelligent than I am - because you are surely not. The point I made is quite legit - why doesn't your separatist movement boycott Albanian retailers that sell Serbian goods? That would be a lot easier than fighting with police at administrative crossings, but maybe not get as many headlines - and this is what this is all about. These nationalists that are trying to show they are more Albanian than Thaci, are campaigning, and trying to win backing from ignorant voters - simple as that. So keep explaining you reciprocity to all, and in a more simple way to me, if that makes you feel smarter, but be honest and factual in your responses. Wonder if there's a MENSA membership card in your wallet - I doubt it.

Steve B.

pre 12 godina

To all Serbian readers: Do you see how much Hashim Thaci loves Serbia? He was able to arrest 150 Albanian just so Serbs and Serbian goods can enter Kosovo. I Dare you to call him a bad person anymore, he loves you more than he loves his own country.
(Nexh, 15 January 2012 12:29)

Even all the Serbs he had murdered?

icj1

pre 12 godina

Serbia is not allowing goods entering from Kosovo in response to UDI, that was/is an adequate reaction.
(aaayyy, 15 January 2012 15:03)

That does not make sense, dear. Apparently you are not informed. The UDI does not exist; it was annulled by Kostunica's government almost 4 years ago:

http://www.b92.net/eng/insight/strategies.php?yyyy=2008&mm=02&nav_id=47715

Reaction against something that does not exist sounds like Don Quixote tilting at windmills

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

They should have protested when Thaci sent police to guard Kosovo-central Serbian border. They should have said "This isn't our land (northern Kosovo) and we don't want our Albanian people to go and die there"

metrod

pre 12 godina

"EA-Uh no actually. How can there be reciprocity between the same country. Reciprocity with your country Albania absolutely though.
Jeff

Jeff, your comment reeks of desperation. You and your pals sj, peggy, spc uk, trizo et al. and your 5th grade logic makes you look immature.

Next, I expect to read momma jokes from you.

icj1

pre 12 godina

EA-Uh no actually. How can there be reciprocity between the same country. Reciprocity with your country Albania absolutely though.
(Jeff, 15 January 2012 13:35)

It does not matter dear. Even if Kosovo is Serbia, then there should be equality of the citizens. Place A is Serbia should not have more or less rights than place B.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

"To all Serbian readers: Do you see how much Hashim Thaci loves Serbia? He was able to arrest 150 Albanian just so Serbs and Serbian goods can enter Kosovo.
(Nexh, 15 January 2012 12:29)

To all Albanian readers: The Thaci regime might not be democratically elected, but nevertheless it's the job of the police to ensure the public order and don't allow some extremist to block roads. And arrest are fine when these protesters are not peaceful and injure police officers.

Peggy

pre 12 godina

I don't understand why Serbs are so interested in these protests. Stuff like this happens in Serbia almost after every soccer game.
(Avni, 15 January 2012 17:41)
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Why are YOU interested in Serbian affairs? You guys come out here constantly commenting on anything connected to Serbia and here you are wondering why we are interested in what happens in Kovoso. Anything that happens in Kosovo has a direct impact on our people.

Any other smart questions?

Denis

pre 12 godina

Cool, Albaniac nationalists clashing with their own cops - not sure what they want to prove here, though. If it's about goods coming from Serbia, then just boycott their retailers that sell them. Wouldn't that be easier and more peaceful than throwing crap at your own police and injuring them? But who ever said nationalists have brains?
(winston, 15 January 2012 11:26)

Vetevendosje has an agenda and they are a modern civilized movement generally, although I dont agree with them. The answer to your question as of why they do not boycott the retailers is that, that's not a practical thing to do, and that it is hard to fight against the immediate neccesity for goods at that level.

Vetvendosje has a point if Serbia is blocking Kosovo goods on its side.Kosovo exports have reached some $500M, and growing, and if Serbia is affecting that growth, Kosovo will have to impose a restricion until an agreement is reached. I don't think Kosovo is being unreasonable here, I believe Serbia is, and with that it is raising tensions, which will come to bite them in the behinds like always have, cuz Kurti soon might win the election and Serbia will say goodbye to $300+M of exports. Is that worth it? Serbia will be the judge I guess. But I think that if there one hope for some kind of reconciliation in the region, that is economic cooperation, let them do business together. If both sides do business together and prosper things will calm down and get better.

Joe

pre 12 godina

Measures of reciprocity should be encouraged not inhibited by Thaci and the government. This issue and others like it will not go away until they are properly adressed.

Also no Kosovo license plate! No Kosovo entry!

Why allow this when Serbs prohibit K. license plates in Serbia?

JohnBoy

pre 12 godina

What a joke! Can't say you albos with your american joke writers don't give me an occasional laugh. Your pseudo police representing your pseudo state arrest your pseudo parliament at your pseudo border. Then your pseudo judges will hold pseudo trials and hand out pseudo punishment. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Eat my real shorts.

icj1

pre 12 godina

I see you have not caught on this western trickery yet? They have realised that the EU is running out of cash and to keep an independent Kosovo is too much and they will never allow Kosovo to join Albania so it’s back to the future; try and put humpty dumpty back together again.
(sj, 16 January 2012 02:31)

But if the EU is running out of cash and to keep an independent Kosovo is too much all they have to do is precisely have Kosovo to join Albania, so they don't have to deal with Kosovo any more.

Peggy

pre 12 godina

Jeff, your comment reeks of desperation. You and your pals sj, peggy, spc uk, trizo et al. and your 5th grade logic makes you look immature.
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Someone's sounding desperate hence the attempt at insults.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

Serbs, you can enjoy Thaqi's support for now. Lets see what happens when Albani Kurti wins the elections ;).
(GFooc, 15 January 2012 22:43)

If Albani Kurti wins the elections it will be easier for Serbs to negotiate with KFOR returning of Serbian police to Kosovo.

sj

pre 12 godina

Serbs, you can enjoy Thaqi's support for now. Lets see what happens when Albani Kurti wins the elections ;).
(GFooc, 15 January 2012 22:43)

If Kurti wins there will be absolutely no change what so ever – you will get more of the same. You have to look at Kosovo in its true context and as it relies on EU aid for almost everything then Kurti will do as he is told.

I’ll be kind and tell you right now; Kurti is only carrying on because he wants to get elected and the general population sees a change from the current stagnation, but once in office its going to be more of the same. I can guarantee you that.



Measures of reciprocity should be encouraged not inhibited by Thaci and the government. This issue and others like it will not go away until they are properly adressed.

Also no Kosovo license plate! No Kosovo entry!

Why allow this when Serbs prohibit K. license plates in Serbia?
(Joe, 15 January 2012 19:24)

I see you have not caught on this western trickery yet? They have realised that the EU is running out of cash and to keep an independent Kosovo is too much and they will never allow Kosovo to join Albania so it’s back to the future; try and put humpty dumpty back together again.

Look Slovenia is in the EU but it has to work with Serbia to survive and the same now applies with Croatia. You can guess who will be in control and who will reap the profits and it is not Croatia or Slovenia.

think about it.

pre 12 godina

I see you have not caught on this western trickery yet? They have realised that the EU is running out of cash and to keep an independent Kosovo is too much and they will never allow Kosovo to join Albania so it’s back to the future; try and put humpty dumpty back together again.
(sj, 16 January 2012 02:31)
See but they also realize that money is going to have to be spent on Kosovo, Serbia has none, nada, zip and so they can either put the money directly into independent Kosovo, or funnel it through Serbia which would be 10 times as expensive as most would be siphoned off before it ever made it to Kosovo.
Try as much as you like, downplay the ability of the west, predict the doomsday of all of Europe and the US. But no one and I mean no one has even hinted at the idea of reversing their decision on Kosovo.
Europe falls, Russia will have no further use for Serbia and it will become a ghetto in the new fallen Europe. It has no means of self sustainment either. You are going from source to source to borrow every penny you can and for what your economy is where it was 5 years ago. Wages have not increased a penny while your prices have doubled. So keep hoping for the obliteration of your own people. Because that is where you are headed should Europe actually collapse.

Peggy

pre 12 godina

Serbs, you can enjoy Thaqi's support for now. Lets see what happens when Albani Kurti wins the elections ;).
(GFooc, 15 January 2012 22:43)
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And what would that be?

sj

pre 12 godina

But if the EU is running out of cash and to keep an independent Kosovo is too much all they have to do is precisely have Kosovo to join Albania, so they don't have to deal with Kosovo any more.
(icj1, 16 January 2012 16:29)


Firstly, the EU will NEVER and let me repeat that one for the hard of hearing NEVER allow Kosovo to join with Albania to create a future large Islamic state in its midst.

Secondly, Albania would collapse if Kosovo did join as it does not have the financial reserves to absorb that region. You do have to remember that Albania itself can barely keep its head above water and to take on an extra burden, then it would snap in two like a pretzel.

A good yard stick is the former East Germany where billions of marks were spent by the central government on trying to integrate it.

Let me repeat that with the EU going down the road of bankruptcy they will want to divest themselves of places like Kosovo and very quietly return it to the rightful owners. All of these talks are designed to bring them closer and closer and then the EU will walk away.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

"Vetevendosje has an agenda and they are a modern civilized movement generally, although I dont agree with them."
(Denis, 15 January 2012 20:13)

If it is like that, then why they behave like extremists, similar to Serbian radicals?

icj1

pre 12 godina

Firstly, the EU will NEVER and let me repeat that one for the hard of hearing NEVER allow Kosovo to join with Albania to create a future large Islamic state in its midst.
(sj, 16 January 2012 22:12)

Absolutely, you are correct, if and when the EU puts you in charge of taking decisions for the EU.
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Secondly, Albania would collapse if Kosovo did join as it does not have the financial reserves to absorb that region. You do have to remember that Albania itself can barely keep its head above water and to take on an extra burden, then it would snap in two like a pretzel.
(sj, 16 January 2012 22:12)

I’m sure the Albanians do appreciate your deep concern for them and will take the above fully into account.
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Let me repeat that with the EU going down the road of bankruptcy they will want to divest themselves of places like Kosovo
(sj, 16 January 2012 22:12)

Absolutely… I fully agreed with you before. If the EU is going down the road of bankruptcy they will want to divest themselves of places like Kosovo because to keep an independent Kosovo is too much; all they have to do is precisely have Kosovo to join Albania, so they don't have to deal with Kosovo any more.

EA

pre 12 godina

"If it's about goods coming from Serbia, then just boycott their retailers that sell them."

Winston,

It is not as simplistic as that. IT IS ABOUT RECIPROCITY in any relationship with Serbia. Serbia is not allowing goods entering from Kosovo. Serbia is not asking the Serbs in Belgraded for example not to buy goods from Kosovo. Does it make more sense to you now? If not I will try to explain in a more simplistic way....))

winston

pre 12 godina

Cool, Albaniac nationalists clashing with their own cops - not sure what they want to prove here, though. If it's about goods coming from Serbia, then just boycott their retailers that sell them. Wouldn't that be easier and more peaceful than throwing crap at your own police and injuring them? But who ever said nationalists have brains?

Nexh

pre 12 godina

To all Serbian readers: Do you see how much Hashim Thaci loves Serbia? He was able to arrest 150 Albanian just so Serbs and Serbian goods can enter Kosovo. I Dare you to call him a bad person anymore, he loves you more than he loves his own country.

ardi asllani

pre 12 godina

EA-Uh no actually. How can there be reciprocity between the same country. Reciprocity with your country Albania absolutely though.
(Jeff, 15 January 2012 13:35)

between the same country???
In that case Serbian gendarmeri should have been dealing with the said protest , rather than Kosova police.Keep on dreaming body.

Englebert

pre 12 godina

It is not as simplistic as that. IT IS ABOUT RECIPROCITY in any relationship with Serbia. Serbia is not allowing goods entering from Kosovo. Serbia is not asking the Serbs in Belgraded for example not to buy goods from Kosovo. Does it make more sense to you now? If not I will try to explain in a more simplistic way....))
(EA, 15 January 2012 12:40)

Reciprocity would mean that Kosovo has something legal they produce which can be sold in Serbia. Mind telling us what that is?

lili

pre 12 godina

Serbia now will have trouble to label thaci as antiserbian!
Goods from Serbia are fulling thaci network of shops.
But Albanians will continue their resistance and block these traffics.Count down has began

SCP UK

pre 12 godina

Englebert is absolutely right. What on earth is produced in Kosovo that Serbia needs or wants? I assume Kosovo's main exports are drugs, prostitutes and organs, I dont think any other European country wants those things.

Berk.

pre 12 godina

Imagine the river of tears coming from Belgrade and elsewhere if KPS would have arrested 150 Serbs on barricades. Thaci is really interested that Serbs can make their business in Kosovo.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

IT IS ABOUT RECIPROCITY in any relationship with Serbia. Serbia is not allowing goods entering from Kosovo.
(EA, 15 January 2012 12:40)

Serbia is not allowing goods entering from Kosovo in response to UDI, that was/is an adequate reaction.

JohnBoy

pre 12 godina

What a joke! Can't say you albos with your american joke writers don't give me an occasional laugh. Your pseudo police representing your pseudo state arrest your pseudo parliament at your pseudo border. Then your pseudo judges will hold pseudo trials and hand out pseudo punishment. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Eat my real shorts.

icj1

pre 12 godina

Serbia is not allowing goods entering from Kosovo in response to UDI, that was/is an adequate reaction.
(aaayyy, 15 January 2012 15:03)

That does not make sense, dear. Apparently you are not informed. The UDI does not exist; it was annulled by Kostunica's government almost 4 years ago:

http://www.b92.net/eng/insight/strategies.php?yyyy=2008&mm=02&nav_id=47715

Reaction against something that does not exist sounds like Don Quixote tilting at windmills

metrod

pre 12 godina

"EA-Uh no actually. How can there be reciprocity between the same country. Reciprocity with your country Albania absolutely though.
Jeff

Jeff, your comment reeks of desperation. You and your pals sj, peggy, spc uk, trizo et al. and your 5th grade logic makes you look immature.

Next, I expect to read momma jokes from you.

Peggy

pre 12 godina

Jeff, your comment reeks of desperation. You and your pals sj, peggy, spc uk, trizo et al. and your 5th grade logic makes you look immature.
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Someone's sounding desperate hence the attempt at insults.

winston

pre 12 godina

It is not as simplistic as that. IT IS ABOUT RECIPROCITY in any relationship with Serbia. Serbia is not allowing goods entering from Kosovo. Serbia is not asking the Serbs in Belgraded for example not to buy goods from Kosovo. Does it make more sense to you now? If not I will try to explain in a more simplistic way....))
(EA, 15 January 2012 12:40) Mr. or Mrs. EA - Ethnic Albanian, I presume, please do not the high horse and try and sound more intelligent than I am - because you are surely not. The point I made is quite legit - why doesn't your separatist movement boycott Albanian retailers that sell Serbian goods? That would be a lot easier than fighting with police at administrative crossings, but maybe not get as many headlines - and this is what this is all about. These nationalists that are trying to show they are more Albanian than Thaci, are campaigning, and trying to win backing from ignorant voters - simple as that. So keep explaining you reciprocity to all, and in a more simple way to me, if that makes you feel smarter, but be honest and factual in your responses. Wonder if there's a MENSA membership card in your wallet - I doubt it.

Peggy

pre 12 godina

I don't understand why Serbs are so interested in these protests. Stuff like this happens in Serbia almost after every soccer game.
(Avni, 15 January 2012 17:41)
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Why are YOU interested in Serbian affairs? You guys come out here constantly commenting on anything connected to Serbia and here you are wondering why we are interested in what happens in Kovoso. Anything that happens in Kosovo has a direct impact on our people.

Any other smart questions?

Steve B.

pre 12 godina

To all Serbian readers: Do you see how much Hashim Thaci loves Serbia? He was able to arrest 150 Albanian just so Serbs and Serbian goods can enter Kosovo. I Dare you to call him a bad person anymore, he loves you more than he loves his own country.
(Nexh, 15 January 2012 12:29)

Even all the Serbs he had murdered?

icj1

pre 12 godina

EA-Uh no actually. How can there be reciprocity between the same country. Reciprocity with your country Albania absolutely though.
(Jeff, 15 January 2012 13:35)

It does not matter dear. Even if Kosovo is Serbia, then there should be equality of the citizens. Place A is Serbia should not have more or less rights than place B.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

"To all Serbian readers: Do you see how much Hashim Thaci loves Serbia? He was able to arrest 150 Albanian just so Serbs and Serbian goods can enter Kosovo.
(Nexh, 15 January 2012 12:29)

To all Albanian readers: The Thaci regime might not be democratically elected, but nevertheless it's the job of the police to ensure the public order and don't allow some extremist to block roads. And arrest are fine when these protesters are not peaceful and injure police officers.

Peggy

pre 12 godina

Serbs, you can enjoy Thaqi's support for now. Lets see what happens when Albani Kurti wins the elections ;).
(GFooc, 15 January 2012 22:43)
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And what would that be?

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

"Vetevendosje has an agenda and they are a modern civilized movement generally, although I dont agree with them."
(Denis, 15 January 2012 20:13)

If it is like that, then why they behave like extremists, similar to Serbian radicals?

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

They should have protested when Thaci sent police to guard Kosovo-central Serbian border. They should have said "This isn't our land (northern Kosovo) and we don't want our Albanian people to go and die there"

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

Serbs, you can enjoy Thaqi's support for now. Lets see what happens when Albani Kurti wins the elections ;).
(GFooc, 15 January 2012 22:43)

If Albani Kurti wins the elections it will be easier for Serbs to negotiate with KFOR returning of Serbian police to Kosovo.

sj

pre 12 godina

Serbs, you can enjoy Thaqi's support for now. Lets see what happens when Albani Kurti wins the elections ;).
(GFooc, 15 January 2012 22:43)

If Kurti wins there will be absolutely no change what so ever – you will get more of the same. You have to look at Kosovo in its true context and as it relies on EU aid for almost everything then Kurti will do as he is told.

I’ll be kind and tell you right now; Kurti is only carrying on because he wants to get elected and the general population sees a change from the current stagnation, but once in office its going to be more of the same. I can guarantee you that.



Measures of reciprocity should be encouraged not inhibited by Thaci and the government. This issue and others like it will not go away until they are properly adressed.

Also no Kosovo license plate! No Kosovo entry!

Why allow this when Serbs prohibit K. license plates in Serbia?
(Joe, 15 January 2012 19:24)

I see you have not caught on this western trickery yet? They have realised that the EU is running out of cash and to keep an independent Kosovo is too much and they will never allow Kosovo to join Albania so it’s back to the future; try and put humpty dumpty back together again.

Look Slovenia is in the EU but it has to work with Serbia to survive and the same now applies with Croatia. You can guess who will be in control and who will reap the profits and it is not Croatia or Slovenia.

Joe

pre 12 godina

Measures of reciprocity should be encouraged not inhibited by Thaci and the government. This issue and others like it will not go away until they are properly adressed.

Also no Kosovo license plate! No Kosovo entry!

Why allow this when Serbs prohibit K. license plates in Serbia?

Denis

pre 12 godina

Cool, Albaniac nationalists clashing with their own cops - not sure what they want to prove here, though. If it's about goods coming from Serbia, then just boycott their retailers that sell them. Wouldn't that be easier and more peaceful than throwing crap at your own police and injuring them? But who ever said nationalists have brains?
(winston, 15 January 2012 11:26)

Vetevendosje has an agenda and they are a modern civilized movement generally, although I dont agree with them. The answer to your question as of why they do not boycott the retailers is that, that's not a practical thing to do, and that it is hard to fight against the immediate neccesity for goods at that level.

Vetvendosje has a point if Serbia is blocking Kosovo goods on its side.Kosovo exports have reached some $500M, and growing, and if Serbia is affecting that growth, Kosovo will have to impose a restricion until an agreement is reached. I don't think Kosovo is being unreasonable here, I believe Serbia is, and with that it is raising tensions, which will come to bite them in the behinds like always have, cuz Kurti soon might win the election and Serbia will say goodbye to $300+M of exports. Is that worth it? Serbia will be the judge I guess. But I think that if there one hope for some kind of reconciliation in the region, that is economic cooperation, let them do business together. If both sides do business together and prosper things will calm down and get better.

icj1

pre 12 godina

I see you have not caught on this western trickery yet? They have realised that the EU is running out of cash and to keep an independent Kosovo is too much and they will never allow Kosovo to join Albania so it’s back to the future; try and put humpty dumpty back together again.
(sj, 16 January 2012 02:31)

But if the EU is running out of cash and to keep an independent Kosovo is too much all they have to do is precisely have Kosovo to join Albania, so they don't have to deal with Kosovo any more.

sj

pre 12 godina

But if the EU is running out of cash and to keep an independent Kosovo is too much all they have to do is precisely have Kosovo to join Albania, so they don't have to deal with Kosovo any more.
(icj1, 16 January 2012 16:29)


Firstly, the EU will NEVER and let me repeat that one for the hard of hearing NEVER allow Kosovo to join with Albania to create a future large Islamic state in its midst.

Secondly, Albania would collapse if Kosovo did join as it does not have the financial reserves to absorb that region. You do have to remember that Albania itself can barely keep its head above water and to take on an extra burden, then it would snap in two like a pretzel.

A good yard stick is the former East Germany where billions of marks were spent by the central government on trying to integrate it.

Let me repeat that with the EU going down the road of bankruptcy they will want to divest themselves of places like Kosovo and very quietly return it to the rightful owners. All of these talks are designed to bring them closer and closer and then the EU will walk away.

think about it.

pre 12 godina

I see you have not caught on this western trickery yet? They have realised that the EU is running out of cash and to keep an independent Kosovo is too much and they will never allow Kosovo to join Albania so it’s back to the future; try and put humpty dumpty back together again.
(sj, 16 January 2012 02:31)
See but they also realize that money is going to have to be spent on Kosovo, Serbia has none, nada, zip and so they can either put the money directly into independent Kosovo, or funnel it through Serbia which would be 10 times as expensive as most would be siphoned off before it ever made it to Kosovo.
Try as much as you like, downplay the ability of the west, predict the doomsday of all of Europe and the US. But no one and I mean no one has even hinted at the idea of reversing their decision on Kosovo.
Europe falls, Russia will have no further use for Serbia and it will become a ghetto in the new fallen Europe. It has no means of self sustainment either. You are going from source to source to borrow every penny you can and for what your economy is where it was 5 years ago. Wages have not increased a penny while your prices have doubled. So keep hoping for the obliteration of your own people. Because that is where you are headed should Europe actually collapse.

icj1

pre 12 godina

Firstly, the EU will NEVER and let me repeat that one for the hard of hearing NEVER allow Kosovo to join with Albania to create a future large Islamic state in its midst.
(sj, 16 January 2012 22:12)

Absolutely, you are correct, if and when the EU puts you in charge of taking decisions for the EU.
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Secondly, Albania would collapse if Kosovo did join as it does not have the financial reserves to absorb that region. You do have to remember that Albania itself can barely keep its head above water and to take on an extra burden, then it would snap in two like a pretzel.
(sj, 16 January 2012 22:12)

I’m sure the Albanians do appreciate your deep concern for them and will take the above fully into account.
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Let me repeat that with the EU going down the road of bankruptcy they will want to divest themselves of places like Kosovo
(sj, 16 January 2012 22:12)

Absolutely… I fully agreed with you before. If the EU is going down the road of bankruptcy they will want to divest themselves of places like Kosovo because to keep an independent Kosovo is too much; all they have to do is precisely have Kosovo to join Albania, so they don't have to deal with Kosovo any more.