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Saturday, 07.01.2012.

10:22

Tadić in message of peace, incidents reported

Serbian President Boris Tadić this morning attended Christmas Day liturgy in the monastery of Visoki (High) Dečani in Kosovo.

Izvor: Tanjug

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Peggy

pre 12 godina

"Serbia will never recognize Kosovo and Albanians will never let Serbia come back again".
So whats the solution? War? Come on people, its time to get rational!
(FTREND, 8 January 2012 04:12
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Yes, let's get rational. So what do you propose as a solution?
Who gets Kosovo?

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

Don't you agree that throwing stones at cars is criminal case?
(aaayyy, 8 January 2012 20:20)

I do agree that throwing stones is a criminal case, yet it is a less serious crime compared to throwing Molotov Cocktails at Peace Keepers, arson at boarders and shooting policemen. Do you agree?

icj1

pre 12 godina

Don't you agree that throwing stones at cars is criminal case?
(aaayyy, 8 January 2012 20:20)

Of course, at it is criminal throwing Molotov cocktails, pipe bombs, etc. at UN forces.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

Did it ever cross your mind that they weren't attacking you because you're celebrating Christmas but they were throwing stones at Tadic's car for politicising a religious event? Bit of a difference tbf.

Regardless I hope that you had a merry Christmas.
(Ian, UK, 8 January 2012 05:36)

Don't you agree that throwing stones at cars is criminal case?

icj1

pre 12 godina

The UN/KFOR run Kosovo
(Anonymous, 8 January 2012 11:17)

Exactly, that's the whole point... Serbia is not running Kosovo and Kosovo is independent from Serbia. That's all Albanians in Kosovo cared about.

Tirana boy

pre 12 godina

I am an albanian, from the Republic of Albania, and i am reading carefully those comments. I don't bother to comment about the hate or who's land is. In albania, no body gives a sh** about kosovo. Take if you want, or even better, let's build a lake instead of Kosovo. The only one thing that bothers me is that link you serbs think Albania and islam has. I am orthodox, just like you, an i assure you that the population here is divided 35% christian (large amount of catholics), 35% muslim (but less than 1-2% goes frequently in mosques) and the rest atheist. Yep, in Wikipedia you will find 70% muslim or even 82%, but those figures are from 1920 year, the last time a religious census was held. Anyway, best wishes for the Christmas, those belongs to everybody...

drini.

pre 12 godina

Kosovo churches are for the Kosovo citizens,where citizens can celebrate the ceremony,and we know how there are so many numerous churches in Serbia or there in Belgrade where the president had the opportunity to celebrate, and we don't see any reason to come and to provoke the citizens there in Decane....! all this situation will not contribute to the situation in which are located in advance !

Anonymous

pre 12 godina

To the Albanians saying that they blocked the Serbian Convoy just like the Serbs blocked the "Kosovo Security Force" back in July, all I can do is laugh. One big difference! Serbs actualy did block the "KSF" from getting to the administrative line while the Serbian COnvoy reached its destination. THere was nothing little old Pristina could do to block Tadic from visiting Kosovo. The UN/KFOR run Kosovo. not Thaci.Tadic visited Kosovo even though Albanian extremists didnt want him too, and "KSF" was blocked by Serbs when they didnt want them coming to the North. Serbs win, you lose in both scenarios.

J.Oker

pre 12 godina

LOL you people say that every year, and you'll be saying that again after Easter :)
(Balkan Anthropologist, 7 January 2012 20:08)

According to Mr Thaci, this has already been easter :)

MikeC

pre 12 godina

Demi

Read any independent source and you will see that Kosovo was inhabited and dominated by serbs. Kosovo is a serbian word and it means "blackbird". How come all the cities, mountains, valleys and rivers in Kosovo have serbian names? However, the most significant proof are serbian monasteries datomg bacl tp the 13th century. Where is your proof other then simple claims? Then again I know albanians have to justify the stealing of territory somehow, by making up outrageous claims. However, let's say for arguments sake that Kosovo did belong to albanians or illyrians at one time in history. Should all territories that belonged to some other people then the current one today be given back to the natives? In that case norht americans should pack up and go back to Europe a.s.a.p.. Territories have shifted owners thousands of times. Who will decide who is truly the rightfull owner of a territory? For the last 700-800 years Kosovo has been under serbs rule. That is enough to prove whom it belongs to in this case. Anything before that period in time can not be proven.

just a thought

pre 12 godina

These animals cannot leave us in peace even on this one day, instead they attack us when we celebrate Christmas, how pathetic and cowardly. Same goes to all these moronic internet warriors here waiting for any opportunity to attack Serbs.

Merry Christmas to all Serbs and other Orthodox Christians, may we all happily celebrate despite these attempts to ruin our holy day.
(SCP UK, 7 January 2012 17:27
It is noted that you did not set aside this day to not come on here and unleash a venomous attack. I guess only the Albanians should have thought of this as a Holy Day!

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

These animals cannot leave us in peace even on this one day, instead they attack us when we celebrate Christmas, how pathetic and cowardly. Same goes to all these moronic internet warriors here waiting for any opportunity to attack Serbs.

Merry Christmas to all Serbs and other Orthodox Christians, may we all happily celebrate despite these attempts to ruin our holy day.
(SCP UK, 7 January 2012 17:27)

I'm pretty sure if I attempted to post a comment which refereed to Serbs as "animals", the administrator/ regulator wouldn't post it as it isn't in line with B92's comment policy which states "Comments which include insults, indecencies, racial or ethnic hate messages and intolerance of any kind will not be published"; but it seems acceptable for you to refer to Albanians as "animals" even though it violates the comment policy.

Did it ever cross your mind that they weren't attacking you because you're celebrating Christmas but they were throwing stones at Tadic's car for politicising a religious event? Bit of a difference tbf.

Regardless I hope that you had a merry Christmas.

FTREND

pre 12 godina

"Serbia will never recognize Kosovo and Albanians will never let Serbia come back again".
So whats the solution? War? Come on people, its time to get rational!

Reader

pre 12 godina

Meanwhile, other fights for territory plague the orthodox world in one of the most sacred holy places, the Church of Nativity in Bethlehem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsT-iOiO4HM&feature=endscreen&NR=1

Peace

Peggy

pre 12 godina

And hey mate, we cannot steal somthing that is and allways have been ours.
(Demi, 7 January 2012 17:27)
==============================

True, you cannot steal something that is your but Kosovo has NEVER been yours.
I keep asking you Albanians to produce something more than your word to back this statement up with but you ALWAYS ignore it. You always come empty handed but continue to claim it.

So, you will need to do better. Produce some evidence or stop making fools of yourselves.

dori tirana

pre 12 godina

These animals cannot leave us in peace even on this one day, instead they attack us when we celebrate Christmas, how pathetic and cowardly. Same goes to all these moronic internet warriors here waiting for any opportunity to attack Serbs.

Merry Christmas to all Serbs and other Orthodox Christians, may we all happily celebrate despite these attempts to ruin our holy day.
(SCP UK, 7 January 2012 17:27)
Really? If for you is holy day celebrate and don’t do politic in your “holy land”. And to tell you the truth Self Government Movement this time does a favor to Mr. Tadic. He after this he will look braves for the naïve Serbs that think he celebrate surrounded by this aggressive Albanians. Serbs stay in your home Serbia and nobody has the intention to lose time with you. Is you that don’t respect your holy day, because from the President, Patriarch and the forumers here are mixing some words of peace with politic. This is a salad “politic with holy celebration” cooked by Serbs.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

this will be tadic last visit :D, enjoy it as it lasts
(eric, 7 January 2012 17:40)

LOL you people say that every year, and you'll be saying that again after Easter :)

gjon fusha

pre 12 godina

This behaviour by albanians just proves that Serbia did the right thing not to recognize this taliban so celled republic of Kosovo. 200 years ago Serbs began to allow thousand of albanians from Albania to seek refuge in Kosovo, now they thank their masters in this way.
(MikeC, 7 January 2012 11:44)

If Serbia was right not to recognize this Taliban so called RK, why then you are dying to include this Taliban Republic in your Serbia???
Oh sorry I forget You would like to civilize this Taliban Republic same as You did this last 200 years.
MikeC I am not the one to tell You not to hate the Albanians because I am an Albanian and proud of this, but please tell the truth, enough with propaganda.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

Hristos se Rodi!??
(USA United States of Albania, 7 January 2012 15:40)

Yes
(aaayyy)

I thought Mary was a virgin? I guess not:)
(USA United States of Albania, 7 January 2012 15:40)

Yes
(aaayyy)

It was a unique case. Read the Bible.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

There is not one albanian in Kosovo who woulnd't pack and leave for a european country if they got a chance.
(MikeC)

What a great chance they got and missed in 1999.

Simpatiku

pre 12 godina

They are so desperate that many have died in their attempts to leave Kosovo. You will ethnicly clense yourselves. And you deserve nothing less after trying to steal land that's not yours to begin with.
(MikeC, 7 January 2012 16:42)

You are talking from personal experience uh? Good that you personally cleansed yourself. I do not think you deserve to be closer to us than you are right now. We have taken back part of the land that was stolen from us back in 1912.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

I thought Mary was a virgin? I guess not:)
(USA United States of Albania, 7 January 2012 15:40)

I'm sure that what I'm going to write now will reflect the opinion of the vast majority of the readers in this forum: "you are an idiot"
(A guest, 7 January 2012 16:16)

1) There are full scientific / linguistic explanations, pretty much well-known and accepted.
2) There are full theologic / historic explanations, pretty much well-known and universally accepted.
3) There is a simplification just to keep it simple: many Albanians are paid to troll. Good, not all - but some for sure. The reported rate is AFAIK 0.25 Cent / comment. Enuf said. But that keeps the entire site as it is, good for entertaining or if I am frustrated - and it is nearly impossible to write any serious comment.

I guess, trolling paycheck is one of the few genuine Albanian products, locally made and intent for general consumption. At the 0.25 Cent rate keeps the economy alive.

SCP UK

pre 12 godina

These animals cannot leave us in peace even on this one day, instead they attack us when we celebrate Christmas, how pathetic and cowardly. Same goes to all these moronic internet warriors here waiting for any opportunity to attack Serbs.

Merry Christmas to all Serbs and other Orthodox Christians, may we all happily celebrate despite these attempts to ruin our holy day.

Demi

pre 12 godina

There is not one albanian in Kosovo who woulnd't pack and leave for a european country if they got a chance. However, albanians in Kosovo are trapped in a huge prison, no jobs, no safety, nothing! Your people and politicians are as corrupt as they have always been. More albanians are leaving Kosovo then during Milosevic. They are so desperate that many have died in their attempts to leave Kosovo. You will ethnicly clense yourselves. And you deserve nothing less after trying to steal land that's not yours to begin with.
(MikeC, 7 January 2012 16:42)


Kosova will get visa liberazation and Kosova will prove you wrong. Albanians have never left Kosova without being forced to do that. Albanians have been a majority in Kosova for more than 400 years from now.

And hey mate, we cannot steal somthing that is and allways have been ours.

A guest

pre 12 godina

I thought Mary was a virgin? I guess not:)
(USA United States of Albania, 7 January 2012 15:40)

I'm sure that what I'm going to write now will reflect the opinion of the vast majority of the readers in this forum: "you are an idiot"

J.Oker

pre 12 godina

"Maybe they were inspired by our brothers in the North, they set a good example when it comes to protesting peacefully. "
(I am a Serb, a Croat, and a Muslim, 7 January 2012 15:31)

Let's see it positive: There are things that people in Kosovo (north and south) have in common :)

Milan

pre 12 godina

"Hristos se Rodi!??

I thought Mary was a virgin? I guess not:)

Love,
The Truth Chicago
(USA United States of Albania, 7 January 2012 15:40)"

I know the real truth is that you are an idiot who apparently does not know love. Thugs like you will not spoil Christmas for Serbs!

MikeC

pre 12 godina

"We albanians will never let it go."
Demi

There is not one albanian in Kosovo who woulnd't pack and leave for a european country if they got a chance. However, albanians in Kosovo are trapped in a huge prison, no jobs, no safety, nothing! Your people and politicians are as corrupt as they have always been. More albanians are leaving Kosovo then during Milosevic. They are so desperate that many have died in their attempts to leave Kosovo. You will ethnicly clense yourselves. And you deserve nothing less after trying to steal land that's not yours to begin with.

Pls say it ain't so!!!

pre 12 godina

Medieval mentality includes not only winning the heart of your significant other, but also earning the respect and admiration from the significant other's family and neighbors. Having this mindset means you see your friendship as much more than what it appears at face value.

Hellooooooooo..... haven't we met?

'Medieval' in Serbia!!....what an oxymoron.

Like to utter it, but never practice it.....

Give it up already, we all know what you're made off....

I am a Serb, a Croat, and a Muslim

pre 12 godina

Peaceful protesting, the Kosovo Albanian way. What a shame, these people.
(Analyst, 7 January 2012 11:55)

Maybe they were inspired by our brothers in the North, they set a good example when it comes to protesting peacefully.

Merry Christmas all!

a New Day

pre 12 godina

This behaviour by albanians just proves that Serbia did the right thing not to recognize this taliban so celled republic of Kosovo. Of course the KPS could have prevented this but thanks to their incompetence and lack of will they didn't. 200 years ago Serbs began to allow thousand of albanians from Albania to seek refuge in Kosovo, now they thank their masters in this way.
(MikeC, 7 January 2012 11:44)
I guess then when "hooligans" torched the western embassies it proved that the west was right when it bombed Serbia?
Notice the word "thank their masters" in your post. Reflect and you may see the issue at hand.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

I suppose the names of those arrested have been noted. Will they get a bill for the damaged bus?
(Wim Roffel, 7 January 2012 12:00)

I suppose they will be 'questioned and released' by KPS, as usual

Demi

pre 12 godina

200 years ago Serbs began to allow thousand of albanians from Albania to seek refuge in Kosovo, now they thank their masters in this way.
(MikeC, 7 January 2012 11:44)


Well the serbs are not the native people of Kosova so it's not your land. You were not in a position to allow anything 200 years ago since Kosova was occupyed by Ottoman Turkey. Albanians were majority in Kosova at that time.


There is nobody who can be master of the albanians. Albanians master them self. Serbia can just forget about Kosova. We albanians will never let it go. From now on we can only be stronger. Both Kosova and Albania. It wont be so easy in the future to attack albanians on their own soil. We will not be defenseless as in the past!! We will be ready every night and every day!

ulica tytuñowa

pre 12 godina

loving the Santa Hat B92
(New Zealander, 7 January 2012 11:31)

ROFL - there is nothing what contradicts more than Santa with any (Orthodox in particular!) Christmas tradition to begin with - but that insanity is methastasing from Ammerican commerce (main perpetrators have nothing to do with Christmas) into every country. Indeed, you can see people wearing Santa's hat in Serbia, Ukraina, Russia - I just do not know, what is the message. I bet, some of the ones who did throw stones yesterday did wear it few weeks ago, too.

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

Merry Christmas to everyone. To our southern citizens still in denial, smarten up this year. Realize your own people are stealing from you worse than Serbia ever did. Please do this before its too late.


Hristos se Rodi!

John

pre 12 godina

Peaceful protesting, the Kosovo Albanian way. What a shame, these people.
(Analyst, 7 January 2012 11:55)

Right, the term "peaceful" is only valid when you set up barricades and shot upon peacekeepers. How could we forget..

MikeC

pre 12 godina

This behaviour by albanians just proves that Serbia did the right thing not to recognize this taliban so celled republic of Kosovo. Of course the KPS could have prevented this but thanks to their incompetence and lack of will they didn't. 200 years ago Serbs began to allow thousand of albanians from Albania to seek refuge in Kosovo, now they thank their masters in this way.

Analyst

pre 12 godina

"While the convoy was passing through the center of Dečani, in southern Kosovo, Self-Determination activists threw stones at cars in the column moving towards the monastery and one stone hit the president's car, officials accompanying the president told Tanjug."

Peaceful protesting, the Kosovo Albanian way. What a shame, these people.

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

Merry Christmas to everyone. To our southern citizens still in denial, smarten up this year. Realize your own people are stealing from you worse than Serbia ever did. Please do this before its too late.


Hristos se Rodi!

MikeC

pre 12 godina

This behaviour by albanians just proves that Serbia did the right thing not to recognize this taliban so celled republic of Kosovo. Of course the KPS could have prevented this but thanks to their incompetence and lack of will they didn't. 200 years ago Serbs began to allow thousand of albanians from Albania to seek refuge in Kosovo, now they thank their masters in this way.

Analyst

pre 12 godina

"While the convoy was passing through the center of Dečani, in southern Kosovo, Self-Determination activists threw stones at cars in the column moving towards the monastery and one stone hit the president's car, officials accompanying the president told Tanjug."

Peaceful protesting, the Kosovo Albanian way. What a shame, these people.

MikeC

pre 12 godina

"We albanians will never let it go."
Demi

There is not one albanian in Kosovo who woulnd't pack and leave for a european country if they got a chance. However, albanians in Kosovo are trapped in a huge prison, no jobs, no safety, nothing! Your people and politicians are as corrupt as they have always been. More albanians are leaving Kosovo then during Milosevic. They are so desperate that many have died in their attempts to leave Kosovo. You will ethnicly clense yourselves. And you deserve nothing less after trying to steal land that's not yours to begin with.

John

pre 12 godina

Peaceful protesting, the Kosovo Albanian way. What a shame, these people.
(Analyst, 7 January 2012 11:55)

Right, the term "peaceful" is only valid when you set up barricades and shot upon peacekeepers. How could we forget..

Milan

pre 12 godina

"Hristos se Rodi!??

I thought Mary was a virgin? I guess not:)

Love,
The Truth Chicago
(USA United States of Albania, 7 January 2012 15:40)"

I know the real truth is that you are an idiot who apparently does not know love. Thugs like you will not spoil Christmas for Serbs!

SCP UK

pre 12 godina

These animals cannot leave us in peace even on this one day, instead they attack us when we celebrate Christmas, how pathetic and cowardly. Same goes to all these moronic internet warriors here waiting for any opportunity to attack Serbs.

Merry Christmas to all Serbs and other Orthodox Christians, may we all happily celebrate despite these attempts to ruin our holy day.

Demi

pre 12 godina

200 years ago Serbs began to allow thousand of albanians from Albania to seek refuge in Kosovo, now they thank their masters in this way.
(MikeC, 7 January 2012 11:44)


Well the serbs are not the native people of Kosova so it's not your land. You were not in a position to allow anything 200 years ago since Kosova was occupyed by Ottoman Turkey. Albanians were majority in Kosova at that time.


There is nobody who can be master of the albanians. Albanians master them self. Serbia can just forget about Kosova. We albanians will never let it go. From now on we can only be stronger. Both Kosova and Albania. It wont be so easy in the future to attack albanians on their own soil. We will not be defenseless as in the past!! We will be ready every night and every day!

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

I suppose the names of those arrested have been noted. Will they get a bill for the damaged bus?
(Wim Roffel, 7 January 2012 12:00)

I suppose they will be 'questioned and released' by KPS, as usual

A guest

pre 12 godina

I thought Mary was a virgin? I guess not:)
(USA United States of Albania, 7 January 2012 15:40)

I'm sure that what I'm going to write now will reflect the opinion of the vast majority of the readers in this forum: "you are an idiot"

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

this will be tadic last visit :D, enjoy it as it lasts
(eric, 7 January 2012 17:40)

LOL you people say that every year, and you'll be saying that again after Easter :)

a New Day

pre 12 godina

This behaviour by albanians just proves that Serbia did the right thing not to recognize this taliban so celled republic of Kosovo. Of course the KPS could have prevented this but thanks to their incompetence and lack of will they didn't. 200 years ago Serbs began to allow thousand of albanians from Albania to seek refuge in Kosovo, now they thank their masters in this way.
(MikeC, 7 January 2012 11:44)
I guess then when "hooligans" torched the western embassies it proved that the west was right when it bombed Serbia?
Notice the word "thank their masters" in your post. Reflect and you may see the issue at hand.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

I thought Mary was a virgin? I guess not:)
(USA United States of Albania, 7 January 2012 15:40)

I'm sure that what I'm going to write now will reflect the opinion of the vast majority of the readers in this forum: "you are an idiot"
(A guest, 7 January 2012 16:16)

1) There are full scientific / linguistic explanations, pretty much well-known and accepted.
2) There are full theologic / historic explanations, pretty much well-known and universally accepted.
3) There is a simplification just to keep it simple: many Albanians are paid to troll. Good, not all - but some for sure. The reported rate is AFAIK 0.25 Cent / comment. Enuf said. But that keeps the entire site as it is, good for entertaining or if I am frustrated - and it is nearly impossible to write any serious comment.

I guess, trolling paycheck is one of the few genuine Albanian products, locally made and intent for general consumption. At the 0.25 Cent rate keeps the economy alive.

I am a Serb, a Croat, and a Muslim

pre 12 godina

Peaceful protesting, the Kosovo Albanian way. What a shame, these people.
(Analyst, 7 January 2012 11:55)

Maybe they were inspired by our brothers in the North, they set a good example when it comes to protesting peacefully.

Merry Christmas all!

ulica tytuñowa

pre 12 godina

loving the Santa Hat B92
(New Zealander, 7 January 2012 11:31)

ROFL - there is nothing what contradicts more than Santa with any (Orthodox in particular!) Christmas tradition to begin with - but that insanity is methastasing from Ammerican commerce (main perpetrators have nothing to do with Christmas) into every country. Indeed, you can see people wearing Santa's hat in Serbia, Ukraina, Russia - I just do not know, what is the message. I bet, some of the ones who did throw stones yesterday did wear it few weeks ago, too.

Simpatiku

pre 12 godina

They are so desperate that many have died in their attempts to leave Kosovo. You will ethnicly clense yourselves. And you deserve nothing less after trying to steal land that's not yours to begin with.
(MikeC, 7 January 2012 16:42)

You are talking from personal experience uh? Good that you personally cleansed yourself. I do not think you deserve to be closer to us than you are right now. We have taken back part of the land that was stolen from us back in 1912.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

There is not one albanian in Kosovo who woulnd't pack and leave for a european country if they got a chance.
(MikeC)

What a great chance they got and missed in 1999.

Demi

pre 12 godina

There is not one albanian in Kosovo who woulnd't pack and leave for a european country if they got a chance. However, albanians in Kosovo are trapped in a huge prison, no jobs, no safety, nothing! Your people and politicians are as corrupt as they have always been. More albanians are leaving Kosovo then during Milosevic. They are so desperate that many have died in their attempts to leave Kosovo. You will ethnicly clense yourselves. And you deserve nothing less after trying to steal land that's not yours to begin with.
(MikeC, 7 January 2012 16:42)


Kosova will get visa liberazation and Kosova will prove you wrong. Albanians have never left Kosova without being forced to do that. Albanians have been a majority in Kosova for more than 400 years from now.

And hey mate, we cannot steal somthing that is and allways have been ours.

gjon fusha

pre 12 godina

This behaviour by albanians just proves that Serbia did the right thing not to recognize this taliban so celled republic of Kosovo. 200 years ago Serbs began to allow thousand of albanians from Albania to seek refuge in Kosovo, now they thank their masters in this way.
(MikeC, 7 January 2012 11:44)

If Serbia was right not to recognize this Taliban so called RK, why then you are dying to include this Taliban Republic in your Serbia???
Oh sorry I forget You would like to civilize this Taliban Republic same as You did this last 200 years.
MikeC I am not the one to tell You not to hate the Albanians because I am an Albanian and proud of this, but please tell the truth, enough with propaganda.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

Hristos se Rodi!??
(USA United States of Albania, 7 January 2012 15:40)

Yes
(aaayyy)

I thought Mary was a virgin? I guess not:)
(USA United States of Albania, 7 January 2012 15:40)

Yes
(aaayyy)

It was a unique case. Read the Bible.

dori tirana

pre 12 godina

These animals cannot leave us in peace even on this one day, instead they attack us when we celebrate Christmas, how pathetic and cowardly. Same goes to all these moronic internet warriors here waiting for any opportunity to attack Serbs.

Merry Christmas to all Serbs and other Orthodox Christians, may we all happily celebrate despite these attempts to ruin our holy day.
(SCP UK, 7 January 2012 17:27)
Really? If for you is holy day celebrate and don’t do politic in your “holy land”. And to tell you the truth Self Government Movement this time does a favor to Mr. Tadic. He after this he will look braves for the naïve Serbs that think he celebrate surrounded by this aggressive Albanians. Serbs stay in your home Serbia and nobody has the intention to lose time with you. Is you that don’t respect your holy day, because from the President, Patriarch and the forumers here are mixing some words of peace with politic. This is a salad “politic with holy celebration” cooked by Serbs.

just a thought

pre 12 godina

These animals cannot leave us in peace even on this one day, instead they attack us when we celebrate Christmas, how pathetic and cowardly. Same goes to all these moronic internet warriors here waiting for any opportunity to attack Serbs.

Merry Christmas to all Serbs and other Orthodox Christians, may we all happily celebrate despite these attempts to ruin our holy day.
(SCP UK, 7 January 2012 17:27
It is noted that you did not set aside this day to not come on here and unleash a venomous attack. I guess only the Albanians should have thought of this as a Holy Day!

Tirana boy

pre 12 godina

I am an albanian, from the Republic of Albania, and i am reading carefully those comments. I don't bother to comment about the hate or who's land is. In albania, no body gives a sh** about kosovo. Take if you want, or even better, let's build a lake instead of Kosovo. The only one thing that bothers me is that link you serbs think Albania and islam has. I am orthodox, just like you, an i assure you that the population here is divided 35% christian (large amount of catholics), 35% muslim (but less than 1-2% goes frequently in mosques) and the rest atheist. Yep, in Wikipedia you will find 70% muslim or even 82%, but those figures are from 1920 year, the last time a religious census was held. Anyway, best wishes for the Christmas, those belongs to everybody...

icj1

pre 12 godina

The UN/KFOR run Kosovo
(Anonymous, 8 January 2012 11:17)

Exactly, that's the whole point... Serbia is not running Kosovo and Kosovo is independent from Serbia. That's all Albanians in Kosovo cared about.

drini.

pre 12 godina

Kosovo churches are for the Kosovo citizens,where citizens can celebrate the ceremony,and we know how there are so many numerous churches in Serbia or there in Belgrade where the president had the opportunity to celebrate, and we don't see any reason to come and to provoke the citizens there in Decane....! all this situation will not contribute to the situation in which are located in advance !

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

These animals cannot leave us in peace even on this one day, instead they attack us when we celebrate Christmas, how pathetic and cowardly. Same goes to all these moronic internet warriors here waiting for any opportunity to attack Serbs.

Merry Christmas to all Serbs and other Orthodox Christians, may we all happily celebrate despite these attempts to ruin our holy day.
(SCP UK, 7 January 2012 17:27)

I'm pretty sure if I attempted to post a comment which refereed to Serbs as "animals", the administrator/ regulator wouldn't post it as it isn't in line with B92's comment policy which states "Comments which include insults, indecencies, racial or ethnic hate messages and intolerance of any kind will not be published"; but it seems acceptable for you to refer to Albanians as "animals" even though it violates the comment policy.

Did it ever cross your mind that they weren't attacking you because you're celebrating Christmas but they were throwing stones at Tadic's car for politicising a religious event? Bit of a difference tbf.

Regardless I hope that you had a merry Christmas.

MikeC

pre 12 godina

Demi

Read any independent source and you will see that Kosovo was inhabited and dominated by serbs. Kosovo is a serbian word and it means "blackbird". How come all the cities, mountains, valleys and rivers in Kosovo have serbian names? However, the most significant proof are serbian monasteries datomg bacl tp the 13th century. Where is your proof other then simple claims? Then again I know albanians have to justify the stealing of territory somehow, by making up outrageous claims. However, let's say for arguments sake that Kosovo did belong to albanians or illyrians at one time in history. Should all territories that belonged to some other people then the current one today be given back to the natives? In that case norht americans should pack up and go back to Europe a.s.a.p.. Territories have shifted owners thousands of times. Who will decide who is truly the rightfull owner of a territory? For the last 700-800 years Kosovo has been under serbs rule. That is enough to prove whom it belongs to in this case. Anything before that period in time can not be proven.

Peggy

pre 12 godina

And hey mate, we cannot steal somthing that is and allways have been ours.
(Demi, 7 January 2012 17:27)
==============================

True, you cannot steal something that is your but Kosovo has NEVER been yours.
I keep asking you Albanians to produce something more than your word to back this statement up with but you ALWAYS ignore it. You always come empty handed but continue to claim it.

So, you will need to do better. Produce some evidence or stop making fools of yourselves.

J.Oker

pre 12 godina

"Maybe they were inspired by our brothers in the North, they set a good example when it comes to protesting peacefully. "
(I am a Serb, a Croat, and a Muslim, 7 January 2012 15:31)

Let's see it positive: There are things that people in Kosovo (north and south) have in common :)

Anonymous

pre 12 godina

To the Albanians saying that they blocked the Serbian Convoy just like the Serbs blocked the "Kosovo Security Force" back in July, all I can do is laugh. One big difference! Serbs actualy did block the "KSF" from getting to the administrative line while the Serbian COnvoy reached its destination. THere was nothing little old Pristina could do to block Tadic from visiting Kosovo. The UN/KFOR run Kosovo. not Thaci.Tadic visited Kosovo even though Albanian extremists didnt want him too, and "KSF" was blocked by Serbs when they didnt want them coming to the North. Serbs win, you lose in both scenarios.

icj1

pre 12 godina

Don't you agree that throwing stones at cars is criminal case?
(aaayyy, 8 January 2012 20:20)

Of course, at it is criminal throwing Molotov cocktails, pipe bombs, etc. at UN forces.

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

Don't you agree that throwing stones at cars is criminal case?
(aaayyy, 8 January 2012 20:20)

I do agree that throwing stones is a criminal case, yet it is a less serious crime compared to throwing Molotov Cocktails at Peace Keepers, arson at boarders and shooting policemen. Do you agree?

J.Oker

pre 12 godina

LOL you people say that every year, and you'll be saying that again after Easter :)
(Balkan Anthropologist, 7 January 2012 20:08)

According to Mr Thaci, this has already been easter :)

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

Did it ever cross your mind that they weren't attacking you because you're celebrating Christmas but they were throwing stones at Tadic's car for politicising a religious event? Bit of a difference tbf.

Regardless I hope that you had a merry Christmas.
(Ian, UK, 8 January 2012 05:36)

Don't you agree that throwing stones at cars is criminal case?

Pls say it ain't so!!!

pre 12 godina

Medieval mentality includes not only winning the heart of your significant other, but also earning the respect and admiration from the significant other's family and neighbors. Having this mindset means you see your friendship as much more than what it appears at face value.

Hellooooooooo..... haven't we met?

'Medieval' in Serbia!!....what an oxymoron.

Like to utter it, but never practice it.....

Give it up already, we all know what you're made off....

Reader

pre 12 godina

Meanwhile, other fights for territory plague the orthodox world in one of the most sacred holy places, the Church of Nativity in Bethlehem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsT-iOiO4HM&feature=endscreen&NR=1

Peace

FTREND

pre 12 godina

"Serbia will never recognize Kosovo and Albanians will never let Serbia come back again".
So whats the solution? War? Come on people, its time to get rational!

Peggy

pre 12 godina

"Serbia will never recognize Kosovo and Albanians will never let Serbia come back again".
So whats the solution? War? Come on people, its time to get rational!
(FTREND, 8 January 2012 04:12
====================================

Yes, let's get rational. So what do you propose as a solution?
Who gets Kosovo?

Demi

pre 12 godina

200 years ago Serbs began to allow thousand of albanians from Albania to seek refuge in Kosovo, now they thank their masters in this way.
(MikeC, 7 January 2012 11:44)


Well the serbs are not the native people of Kosova so it's not your land. You were not in a position to allow anything 200 years ago since Kosova was occupyed by Ottoman Turkey. Albanians were majority in Kosova at that time.


There is nobody who can be master of the albanians. Albanians master them self. Serbia can just forget about Kosova. We albanians will never let it go. From now on we can only be stronger. Both Kosova and Albania. It wont be so easy in the future to attack albanians on their own soil. We will not be defenseless as in the past!! We will be ready every night and every day!

Demi

pre 12 godina

There is not one albanian in Kosovo who woulnd't pack and leave for a european country if they got a chance. However, albanians in Kosovo are trapped in a huge prison, no jobs, no safety, nothing! Your people and politicians are as corrupt as they have always been. More albanians are leaving Kosovo then during Milosevic. They are so desperate that many have died in their attempts to leave Kosovo. You will ethnicly clense yourselves. And you deserve nothing less after trying to steal land that's not yours to begin with.
(MikeC, 7 January 2012 16:42)


Kosova will get visa liberazation and Kosova will prove you wrong. Albanians have never left Kosova without being forced to do that. Albanians have been a majority in Kosova for more than 400 years from now.

And hey mate, we cannot steal somthing that is and allways have been ours.

MikeC

pre 12 godina

"We albanians will never let it go."
Demi

There is not one albanian in Kosovo who woulnd't pack and leave for a european country if they got a chance. However, albanians in Kosovo are trapped in a huge prison, no jobs, no safety, nothing! Your people and politicians are as corrupt as they have always been. More albanians are leaving Kosovo then during Milosevic. They are so desperate that many have died in their attempts to leave Kosovo. You will ethnicly clense yourselves. And you deserve nothing less after trying to steal land that's not yours to begin with.

John

pre 12 godina

Peaceful protesting, the Kosovo Albanian way. What a shame, these people.
(Analyst, 7 January 2012 11:55)

Right, the term "peaceful" is only valid when you set up barricades and shot upon peacekeepers. How could we forget..

dori tirana

pre 12 godina

These animals cannot leave us in peace even on this one day, instead they attack us when we celebrate Christmas, how pathetic and cowardly. Same goes to all these moronic internet warriors here waiting for any opportunity to attack Serbs.

Merry Christmas to all Serbs and other Orthodox Christians, may we all happily celebrate despite these attempts to ruin our holy day.
(SCP UK, 7 January 2012 17:27)
Really? If for you is holy day celebrate and don’t do politic in your “holy land”. And to tell you the truth Self Government Movement this time does a favor to Mr. Tadic. He after this he will look braves for the naïve Serbs that think he celebrate surrounded by this aggressive Albanians. Serbs stay in your home Serbia and nobody has the intention to lose time with you. Is you that don’t respect your holy day, because from the President, Patriarch and the forumers here are mixing some words of peace with politic. This is a salad “politic with holy celebration” cooked by Serbs.

MikeC

pre 12 godina

This behaviour by albanians just proves that Serbia did the right thing not to recognize this taliban so celled republic of Kosovo. Of course the KPS could have prevented this but thanks to their incompetence and lack of will they didn't. 200 years ago Serbs began to allow thousand of albanians from Albania to seek refuge in Kosovo, now they thank their masters in this way.

Analyst

pre 12 godina

"While the convoy was passing through the center of Dečani, in southern Kosovo, Self-Determination activists threw stones at cars in the column moving towards the monastery and one stone hit the president's car, officials accompanying the president told Tanjug."

Peaceful protesting, the Kosovo Albanian way. What a shame, these people.

a New Day

pre 12 godina

This behaviour by albanians just proves that Serbia did the right thing not to recognize this taliban so celled republic of Kosovo. Of course the KPS could have prevented this but thanks to their incompetence and lack of will they didn't. 200 years ago Serbs began to allow thousand of albanians from Albania to seek refuge in Kosovo, now they thank their masters in this way.
(MikeC, 7 January 2012 11:44)
I guess then when "hooligans" torched the western embassies it proved that the west was right when it bombed Serbia?
Notice the word "thank their masters" in your post. Reflect and you may see the issue at hand.

gjon fusha

pre 12 godina

This behaviour by albanians just proves that Serbia did the right thing not to recognize this taliban so celled republic of Kosovo. 200 years ago Serbs began to allow thousand of albanians from Albania to seek refuge in Kosovo, now they thank their masters in this way.
(MikeC, 7 January 2012 11:44)

If Serbia was right not to recognize this Taliban so called RK, why then you are dying to include this Taliban Republic in your Serbia???
Oh sorry I forget You would like to civilize this Taliban Republic same as You did this last 200 years.
MikeC I am not the one to tell You not to hate the Albanians because I am an Albanian and proud of this, but please tell the truth, enough with propaganda.

Simpatiku

pre 12 godina

They are so desperate that many have died in their attempts to leave Kosovo. You will ethnicly clense yourselves. And you deserve nothing less after trying to steal land that's not yours to begin with.
(MikeC, 7 January 2012 16:42)

You are talking from personal experience uh? Good that you personally cleansed yourself. I do not think you deserve to be closer to us than you are right now. We have taken back part of the land that was stolen from us back in 1912.

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

Merry Christmas to everyone. To our southern citizens still in denial, smarten up this year. Realize your own people are stealing from you worse than Serbia ever did. Please do this before its too late.


Hristos se Rodi!

SCP UK

pre 12 godina

These animals cannot leave us in peace even on this one day, instead they attack us when we celebrate Christmas, how pathetic and cowardly. Same goes to all these moronic internet warriors here waiting for any opportunity to attack Serbs.

Merry Christmas to all Serbs and other Orthodox Christians, may we all happily celebrate despite these attempts to ruin our holy day.

I am a Serb, a Croat, and a Muslim

pre 12 godina

Peaceful protesting, the Kosovo Albanian way. What a shame, these people.
(Analyst, 7 January 2012 11:55)

Maybe they were inspired by our brothers in the North, they set a good example when it comes to protesting peacefully.

Merry Christmas all!

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

I suppose the names of those arrested have been noted. Will they get a bill for the damaged bus?
(Wim Roffel, 7 January 2012 12:00)

I suppose they will be 'questioned and released' by KPS, as usual

Milan

pre 12 godina

"Hristos se Rodi!??

I thought Mary was a virgin? I guess not:)

Love,
The Truth Chicago
(USA United States of Albania, 7 January 2012 15:40)"

I know the real truth is that you are an idiot who apparently does not know love. Thugs like you will not spoil Christmas for Serbs!

Pls say it ain't so!!!

pre 12 godina

Medieval mentality includes not only winning the heart of your significant other, but also earning the respect and admiration from the significant other's family and neighbors. Having this mindset means you see your friendship as much more than what it appears at face value.

Hellooooooooo..... haven't we met?

'Medieval' in Serbia!!....what an oxymoron.

Like to utter it, but never practice it.....

Give it up already, we all know what you're made off....

A guest

pre 12 godina

I thought Mary was a virgin? I guess not:)
(USA United States of Albania, 7 January 2012 15:40)

I'm sure that what I'm going to write now will reflect the opinion of the vast majority of the readers in this forum: "you are an idiot"

Ataman

pre 12 godina

I thought Mary was a virgin? I guess not:)
(USA United States of Albania, 7 January 2012 15:40)

I'm sure that what I'm going to write now will reflect the opinion of the vast majority of the readers in this forum: "you are an idiot"
(A guest, 7 January 2012 16:16)

1) There are full scientific / linguistic explanations, pretty much well-known and accepted.
2) There are full theologic / historic explanations, pretty much well-known and universally accepted.
3) There is a simplification just to keep it simple: many Albanians are paid to troll. Good, not all - but some for sure. The reported rate is AFAIK 0.25 Cent / comment. Enuf said. But that keeps the entire site as it is, good for entertaining or if I am frustrated - and it is nearly impossible to write any serious comment.

I guess, trolling paycheck is one of the few genuine Albanian products, locally made and intent for general consumption. At the 0.25 Cent rate keeps the economy alive.

Tirana boy

pre 12 godina

I am an albanian, from the Republic of Albania, and i am reading carefully those comments. I don't bother to comment about the hate or who's land is. In albania, no body gives a sh** about kosovo. Take if you want, or even better, let's build a lake instead of Kosovo. The only one thing that bothers me is that link you serbs think Albania and islam has. I am orthodox, just like you, an i assure you that the population here is divided 35% christian (large amount of catholics), 35% muslim (but less than 1-2% goes frequently in mosques) and the rest atheist. Yep, in Wikipedia you will find 70% muslim or even 82%, but those figures are from 1920 year, the last time a religious census was held. Anyway, best wishes for the Christmas, those belongs to everybody...

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

Did it ever cross your mind that they weren't attacking you because you're celebrating Christmas but they were throwing stones at Tadic's car for politicising a religious event? Bit of a difference tbf.

Regardless I hope that you had a merry Christmas.
(Ian, UK, 8 January 2012 05:36)

Don't you agree that throwing stones at cars is criminal case?

MikeC

pre 12 godina

Demi

Read any independent source and you will see that Kosovo was inhabited and dominated by serbs. Kosovo is a serbian word and it means "blackbird". How come all the cities, mountains, valleys and rivers in Kosovo have serbian names? However, the most significant proof are serbian monasteries datomg bacl tp the 13th century. Where is your proof other then simple claims? Then again I know albanians have to justify the stealing of territory somehow, by making up outrageous claims. However, let's say for arguments sake that Kosovo did belong to albanians or illyrians at one time in history. Should all territories that belonged to some other people then the current one today be given back to the natives? In that case norht americans should pack up and go back to Europe a.s.a.p.. Territories have shifted owners thousands of times. Who will decide who is truly the rightfull owner of a territory? For the last 700-800 years Kosovo has been under serbs rule. That is enough to prove whom it belongs to in this case. Anything before that period in time can not be proven.

Anonymous

pre 12 godina

To the Albanians saying that they blocked the Serbian Convoy just like the Serbs blocked the "Kosovo Security Force" back in July, all I can do is laugh. One big difference! Serbs actualy did block the "KSF" from getting to the administrative line while the Serbian COnvoy reached its destination. THere was nothing little old Pristina could do to block Tadic from visiting Kosovo. The UN/KFOR run Kosovo. not Thaci.Tadic visited Kosovo even though Albanian extremists didnt want him too, and "KSF" was blocked by Serbs when they didnt want them coming to the North. Serbs win, you lose in both scenarios.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

There is not one albanian in Kosovo who woulnd't pack and leave for a european country if they got a chance.
(MikeC)

What a great chance they got and missed in 1999.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

this will be tadic last visit :D, enjoy it as it lasts
(eric, 7 January 2012 17:40)

LOL you people say that every year, and you'll be saying that again after Easter :)

J.Oker

pre 12 godina

LOL you people say that every year, and you'll be saying that again after Easter :)
(Balkan Anthropologist, 7 January 2012 20:08)

According to Mr Thaci, this has already been easter :)

drini.

pre 12 godina

Kosovo churches are for the Kosovo citizens,where citizens can celebrate the ceremony,and we know how there are so many numerous churches in Serbia or there in Belgrade where the president had the opportunity to celebrate, and we don't see any reason to come and to provoke the citizens there in Decane....! all this situation will not contribute to the situation in which are located in advance !

ulica tytuñowa

pre 12 godina

loving the Santa Hat B92
(New Zealander, 7 January 2012 11:31)

ROFL - there is nothing what contradicts more than Santa with any (Orthodox in particular!) Christmas tradition to begin with - but that insanity is methastasing from Ammerican commerce (main perpetrators have nothing to do with Christmas) into every country. Indeed, you can see people wearing Santa's hat in Serbia, Ukraina, Russia - I just do not know, what is the message. I bet, some of the ones who did throw stones yesterday did wear it few weeks ago, too.

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

These animals cannot leave us in peace even on this one day, instead they attack us when we celebrate Christmas, how pathetic and cowardly. Same goes to all these moronic internet warriors here waiting for any opportunity to attack Serbs.

Merry Christmas to all Serbs and other Orthodox Christians, may we all happily celebrate despite these attempts to ruin our holy day.
(SCP UK, 7 January 2012 17:27)

I'm pretty sure if I attempted to post a comment which refereed to Serbs as "animals", the administrator/ regulator wouldn't post it as it isn't in line with B92's comment policy which states "Comments which include insults, indecencies, racial or ethnic hate messages and intolerance of any kind will not be published"; but it seems acceptable for you to refer to Albanians as "animals" even though it violates the comment policy.

Did it ever cross your mind that they weren't attacking you because you're celebrating Christmas but they were throwing stones at Tadic's car for politicising a religious event? Bit of a difference tbf.

Regardless I hope that you had a merry Christmas.

icj1

pre 12 godina

The UN/KFOR run Kosovo
(Anonymous, 8 January 2012 11:17)

Exactly, that's the whole point... Serbia is not running Kosovo and Kosovo is independent from Serbia. That's all Albanians in Kosovo cared about.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

Hristos se Rodi!??
(USA United States of Albania, 7 January 2012 15:40)

Yes
(aaayyy)

I thought Mary was a virgin? I guess not:)
(USA United States of Albania, 7 January 2012 15:40)

Yes
(aaayyy)

It was a unique case. Read the Bible.

J.Oker

pre 12 godina

"Maybe they were inspired by our brothers in the North, they set a good example when it comes to protesting peacefully. "
(I am a Serb, a Croat, and a Muslim, 7 January 2012 15:31)

Let's see it positive: There are things that people in Kosovo (north and south) have in common :)

icj1

pre 12 godina

Don't you agree that throwing stones at cars is criminal case?
(aaayyy, 8 January 2012 20:20)

Of course, at it is criminal throwing Molotov cocktails, pipe bombs, etc. at UN forces.

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

Don't you agree that throwing stones at cars is criminal case?
(aaayyy, 8 January 2012 20:20)

I do agree that throwing stones is a criminal case, yet it is a less serious crime compared to throwing Molotov Cocktails at Peace Keepers, arson at boarders and shooting policemen. Do you agree?

Peggy

pre 12 godina

And hey mate, we cannot steal somthing that is and allways have been ours.
(Demi, 7 January 2012 17:27)
==============================

True, you cannot steal something that is your but Kosovo has NEVER been yours.
I keep asking you Albanians to produce something more than your word to back this statement up with but you ALWAYS ignore it. You always come empty handed but continue to claim it.

So, you will need to do better. Produce some evidence or stop making fools of yourselves.

just a thought

pre 12 godina

These animals cannot leave us in peace even on this one day, instead they attack us when we celebrate Christmas, how pathetic and cowardly. Same goes to all these moronic internet warriors here waiting for any opportunity to attack Serbs.

Merry Christmas to all Serbs and other Orthodox Christians, may we all happily celebrate despite these attempts to ruin our holy day.
(SCP UK, 7 January 2012 17:27
It is noted that you did not set aside this day to not come on here and unleash a venomous attack. I guess only the Albanians should have thought of this as a Holy Day!

FTREND

pre 12 godina

"Serbia will never recognize Kosovo and Albanians will never let Serbia come back again".
So whats the solution? War? Come on people, its time to get rational!

Reader

pre 12 godina

Meanwhile, other fights for territory plague the orthodox world in one of the most sacred holy places, the Church of Nativity in Bethlehem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsT-iOiO4HM&feature=endscreen&NR=1

Peace

Peggy

pre 12 godina

"Serbia will never recognize Kosovo and Albanians will never let Serbia come back again".
So whats the solution? War? Come on people, its time to get rational!
(FTREND, 8 January 2012 04:12
====================================

Yes, let's get rational. So what do you propose as a solution?
Who gets Kosovo?