We could survive without Kosovo, IM says

Do a deal with Albania and Montenegro and split the province 3 ways. Montenegro gets Pec & Decani. Belgrade keeps North and Gracanica while Albania gets the rest. - again unlikely


(Niall O'Doherty, 31 December 2011 14:38)

Apparently you don't know where Decani is located, and just because Decani Monastery is there, there was never Serbs there. Gjakova and Decani(both Municipalities) had a handful of Serbs for decades.

The big question is why are you speaking on behalf of Montenegro, since Montenegro has not and is not claiming any of Kosova land?

Serbia has been without Kosovo since 1999 and Serbia is functioning just fine.

1.swap presevo with n.kosovo and cut kosovo loos
2.take RS and offer a bit of sandzak
3.get on with your life

Happy New Year
(fez, 31 December 2011 12:18)

RS, Sandzak & Presevo are not part of the equation so there is absolutley no point in bringing them up.

Belgrade has 4 options -

1. Recognise Kosovo which is what Pristina so desperatley needs and in doing so cast the K Serbs aside and leave them to their fate. Highly unlikely.

2. Do a deal with Albania and Montenegro and split the province 3 ways. Montenegro gets Pec & Decani. Belgrade keeps North and Gracanica while Albania gets the rest. - again unlikely

3. Belgrade keeps North and recognises the rest of Kosovo as independent. K Serb enclaves south of the Ibar are granted full autonomy on par with Dayton Agreement in BiH. - likely

4. Status quo(and I dont mean the band). - very likely.

“My message is – let’s be skilful and decide which god we want to pray to. There’s no use kneeling down in front of everyone, you should decide which god you pray to. The policy of kneeling down in front of everyone can only lead to a paralysis,” he said adding that “god was a bit to the west from Brussels, across the ocean”.


LMAO, what the hell is he talking about? Nothing real or practical ever comes out of the governments mouth anymore. They don't answer why their 'Kosovo and EU' campaign has failed miserably nor are they making any apologies for it. Completely denying that the policy is failing and continue with their deep ignorance.

I'll tell you this, if we do lose Kosovo it will not be because the West nor Albanians. Yes they obviously had a role in it (Albanians having the least since they are just puppets) but its corrupt Serbian politicians trading our sovereignty for money..and not money for the citizens but money for themselves.

The only thing Dacic said that made any sense is the fact that Kosovo has been lost before. If it was lost in the past and then saved later on then clearly there is no such thing as forever lost. Still, I think Dacic, DS, Dinkic, Canak and all of the quislings should experience election results as the Socialist Party did after Slobo went to the Hague. I don't see who in right mind would vote for them.

Happy New Years/Srecna Nova Godina

Mr Dacic changes his position like a flip-flop everyday. Nevertheless it's not him or anyone in Serbia to make decisions about Kosova. If Serbia insists for North Kosova, then the entire game will change. Ahtisari plan was the compromise to make the serbs living in Kosova feel that they are in their own country and not in Albania. If that is not acceptable to them an agreement could be reached about land swap with Albanian populated areas in south Serbia. After that Serbia should just walk away and a political union of Kosova with Albania will follow. There is no point anymore for Ahtisaari plan as the requirements will be different from what they were when this plan was designed.

Is this what Mr Dacic wants?

This guy is probably sleepwalking because tomorrow he's gonna threat with war.The good thing is no matter what he says Kosova is Independent and period.It's never gonna change.You can't sell to Americans what you use to sell to Europe before.

This is a stupid comment and serves to promote Serbia's breakup and unraveling. Serbia gets no benefit by not resisting the illegal statelet of "Kosova". And he forgets all the people who can't go back to their homes and Serbs who don't even have the basic freedom of movement. Serbia approves this and the terrorism that created this "independence" if it says it is okay. It is not. And wanting to get into an anti-Serbia EU won't be the windfall some seem to think. The way they treat Serbia now with their unfair dictates, threats and false promises is they way they would if Serbia ever was allowed into the EU.
Stop trying to get into the EU-club and focus on Serbia's internal problems and deals and free-trade with those who don't have a dozen strings attached and discriminatory conditions.

Or maybe albanians from Kosovo should just move back to the poor country they once came from. Namely Albania....yes you heard me.....they do actually have a country. Should have never let them into former Yugoslavia. But as poor as they were the fled from poor Albania to then more prosperous Yugoslavia, had 6-9 children per family like rabbits and overpopulated the province. When they formed a majority they finally started screaming for independence. If you don't like the country or the politics of that particular country MOVE BACK TO YOUR OWN.

Serbia has wasted half it's energy for TWELVE YEARS crying about Kosovo.

It's slowly slipped into last place in terms of economic prosperity within the region (when looked at in terms of purchasing power).

This go-nowhere project is a cancer on Serbia. When you think of all the political, economic and social capital that's thrown down this black-hole, it's simply appauling.

Good to see a Serbian politician publicly talking some sense about this topic, but I really don't know what he means about god and the ocean. Is he calling USA 'god'?? whatever the case, kinda kooky.

RS, Sandzak & Presevo are not part of the equation so there is absolutley no point in bringing them up.

Belgrade has 4 options -

1. Recognise Kosovo which is what Pristina so desperatley needs and in doing so cast the K Serbs aside and leave them to their fate. Highly unlikely.

2. Do a deal with Albania and Montenegro and split the province 3 ways. Montenegro gets Pec & Decani. Belgrade keeps North and Gracanica while Albania gets the rest. - again unlikely

3. Belgrade keeps North and recognises the rest of Kosovo as independent. K Serb enclaves south of the Ibar are granted full autonomy on par with Dayton Agreement in BiH. - likely

4. Status quo(and I dont mean the band). - very likely.
(Niall O'Doherty, 31 December 2011 14:38)

1. I agree with you there, it is highly unlikely; but it could be more realistic in 10 years time.

2. Yes this is going to be highly unlikely, mainly because you're the only person in the world proposing this option.

3. Agreed, fastest and most realistic solution. However I don't know if the autonomy for the Serb in the remainder of Kosovo would be similar to Dayton, but I think we can agree they'd be given autonomy.

4. Agreed, until Belgrade can choose between 1 and 3 which could take many more years. However if nationalists come to power in Serbia in the upcoming elections, 4 is going to be the only option whilst they're in power.

Happy New Year,

And for the last day of this year, what a beautiful news for Serbia.

Dacic is a clown and opportunist who seems to change his mind every day. He will say or do anything to get votes, and make alliances with anyone to maintain his nice cabinet seat.
Let's hope Serbia votes for real patriots who don't flip flop, a la Kostunica. He is the incorruptible, honest, and will steer Serbia in the right direction.
Cheers!!

1.swap presevo with n.kosovo and cut kosovo loos
2.take RS and offer a bit of sandzak
3.get on with your life

Happy New Year

The Serbs living in Kosovo are no different than the Albanians living in Presheva, Medoreva and Bojonov. The only end game deals possible are:
1.) Serbian recognition of Kosovo in return full EU integration.
2.) Serbia agreeing to give away Presheva, Medoreva and Bojanov in return for N. Kosovo Serb enclaves (in this scenario I don't think we would not see an independent Kosovo but a greater Albania, rather) and Eu integration.
3.) Serbia can isolate itself from the EU, not recognize Kosovo and worship Russia (and still have no control over Kosovo)
Many Serbs will say the first two options are impossible, that's fine but although they wont admit it, I think these are the only options the Kosovo government would accept. I think the only one we could all agree on is the third. And I think that is the most likely.

The views of Mr. Dačić seem to be quite realistic. The existence of the (Albanian dominated) Kosovo is a fact wether you like it or not. And there will be noc change of this situation in present or near future. It would be in the most interest of Serbia to come to an agreement with Pristina wehre Belgrade recognizes Kosovo as state in a certain way (at first it needs not to be fully diplomatic recognition). This agreement should be combined with a (international monitored) contract to preserve the Serbian minority and the Serbian sites in Kosovo. For the 1300 km² of Nothern Kosovo it might be then possible to incorporate this area into Central Serbia without prejudice for other areas/countries. After such an agreement the possibility that Serbie will prosper will be much higher. What then will happen to Kosovo is another question, maybe it will become a failure state.

"It would be in the most interest of Serbia to come to an agreement with Pristina wehre Belgrade recognizes Kosovo as state in a certain way (at first it needs not to be fully diplomatic recognition). This agreement should be combined with a (international monitored) contract to preserve the Serbian minority and the Serbian sites in Kosovo. For the 1300 km² of Nothern Kosovo it might be then possible to incorporate this area into Central Serbia without prejudice for other areas/countries."
(Mazbln, 31 December 2011 12:50)

This would be the best solution.

"After such an agreement the possibility that Serbie will prosper will be much higher. What then will happen to Kosovo is another question, maybe it will become a failure state."
(Mazbln, 31 December 2011 12:50)

In fact, realistically seen, Kosovo is already more or less a failed state. After such an agreement, the chance for Kosovo will be higher to get away from the current limbo status and to become a normal state. Of course, there are huge doubts if a mafia state like that has a chance to survive in Europe, under normal conditions. That's why Thaci and his buddies are interested to keep the current situation.

The Serbs living in Kosovo are no different than the Albanians living in Presheva, Medoreva and Bojonov.
(Valon)

They are different. Officially Presheva, Medoreva and Bojonov are parts of Serbia, while Kosovo Serbian enclaves are disputed territories together with the rest of Kosovo.

Told you so. Ivica Dacic is preparing Serbs for what's coming later. Kosovo recognition.

3. Belgrade keeps North and recognises the rest of Kosovo as independent. K Serb enclaves south of the Ibar are granted full autonomy on par with Dayton Agreement in BiH. - likely
(Niall O'Doherty, 31 December 2011 14:38)

3. Agreed, fastest and most realistic solution. However I don't know if the autonomy for the Serb in the remainder of Kosovo would be similar to Dayton, but I think we can agree they'd be given autonomy.
(Ian, UK, 31 December 2011 15:44)

Unfortunately Merkel and Thaci don't agree with you. So the main question is: How to deal with Merkel and Thaci?

Germans are known for their abilities to never stop in time.

And one more question: how to make KFOR take responsibility for KSerbs' southern envlaves, if the main strategic goal for KFOR is not to conflict with Albanians? Any attempt by KFOR to guarantee safety and security for KSerbs will lead to their conflict with Albanians.

Did Serbia send police to control the border with Albania?
(aaayyy, 31 December 2011 18:05)

I’m not Ivica… You should ask him
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1) In the south barricades don't prevent freedom of movement, while Albanian nationalists do.
(aaayyy, 31 December 2011 18:05)

As you said, there are no barricades in the South to prevent the freedom of movement of any Kosovo citizen (be that Albanian, Serb, Roma, etc…).
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2) albanian nationalists prevented freedom of movement of Russian troops entereng Kosovo in 1999
(aaayyy, 31 December 2011 18:05)

That is because the Russian Foreign Minister said that their entry was a mistake (assuming that what you said is true).

3. Belgrade keeps North and recognises the rest of Kosovo as independent. K Serb enclaves south of the Ibar are granted full autonomy on par with Dayton Agreement in BiH. - likely
(Niall O'Doherty, 31 December 2011 14:38)

Yes likely, but if Serbia is prepared to make similar concession to its South; predominately Albanian inhabited areas (PMB)..this is the only thing Thaqi and his minsters can sell to K. Albanians and its strong diaspora!

"It would be in the most interest of Serbia to come to an agreement with Pristina wehre Belgrade recognizes Kosovo as state in a certain way (at first it needs not to be fully diplomatic recognition). This agreement should be combined with a (international monitored) contract to preserve the Serbian minority and the Serbian sites in Kosovo. For the 1300 km² of Nothern Kosovo it might be then possible to incorporate this area into Central Serbia without prejudice for other areas/countries."
(Mazbln, 31 December 2011 12:50)

This would be the best solution.
(Analist)

In this case KSerbs from Southern enclaves could be forced to leave Kosovo. The question is how to make KFOR bear responsibility for KSerbs' destiny (if Kosovo is to be divided), if KFOR doesn't want to do it even now?

1.swap presevo with n.kosovo and cut kosovo loos
2.take RS and offer a bit of sandzak
(fez, 31 December 2011 12:18)

1. Swap North Kosovo with the southern part (as compensation for the loss of the south)
2. take Gracanica, Novo Brdo including corridors to Serbia in exchange for Presevo, Bujanovac and 3 or 4 villages in Medvedja municipality (the rest is inhabited by a Serb majority)
3. Strpce and the recognition of 'Kosova' will be given in exchange for the patriarchate of Pec and Visoki Decani including corridors to Montenegro or Serbia proper. Other enclaves, such as Gazimestan and Velika Hoca could be discussed about.

Sounds a bit more fair... And then I didn't even mention those areas where Serbs formed a majority prior to 1999. If Serbs were allowed to return the places they fled, the map would be very different.

RS and Sandzak are totally different cases and can't be 'on offer' here. If we follow that logic, Serbs could offer you parts of Macedonia or Montenegro...

Dear, I did not say that Kosovo is a country. Let's assume is a black hole or whatever. My point was that if Thaci was doing the same thing that Serbia did, that makes that thing bilateral, not unilateral. I know that the paranoia about Kosovo being a country stops the reasoning process in some people's minds, but I don't think the above is so hard to understand.
(icj1, 30 December 2011 02:51)

Did Serbia send police to control the border with Albania?
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To my knowledge, there are no barricades in those places. But, I'm sure KFOR will intervene if anybody were to build barricades in South Kosovo similarly to the North where some people playing with logs in the roads are doing whatever they can to make very difficult the freedom of movement of K. Serbs to Serbia and viceversa. still K. Serbs should be able to travel and trade without difficulties with Serbia.
(icj1, 30 December 2011 03:25)

1) In the south barricades don't prevent freedom of movement, while Albanian nationalists do.
2) albanian nationalists prevented freedom of movement of Russian troops entereng Kosovo in 1999

Serbia will also survive without Dacic too! Dump the bum out of office.
Way to leave people hanging...literally if the KLA in Pristina take over.

And one more question: how to make KFOR take responsibility for KSerbs' southern envlaves, if the main strategic goal for KFOR is not to conflict with Albanians? Any attempt by KFOR to guarantee safety and security for KSerbs will lead to their conflict with Albanians.
(aaayyy, 31 December 2011 16:43)
In 2008 Ban Ki Moon highlighted in his report(you know the one that contained the famous 6 point plan) that freedom of movement was a non issue EXCEPT for minority Albanians in the north of Kosovo.

"The deputy PM and interior minister assessed that it was necessary to have demarcation in Kosovo and that the international community needed to accept that Serbs did not want to live in the “independent state of Kosovo”, just like Serbia was forced to accept that the Albanians did not want to live in Serbia. "

This guy still does not understand that he does not control the Serbs in Kosovo. Kosovo Serbs have never said that they do not want to live where they are now. Even the so-called referendum is not about Kosovo Serbs wanting to be part of Kosovo or not.

The solution is the recognition of Kosova. If Serbia entertains the idea of land swapping, Serbia is at a great loss. Serbia is and will never be in a position to dictate how things should be run in the Balkans. In 10 years, Albanians will be the majority population in the Balkans. Having said that, I would advise countries that border Albanians to be peace oriented and civil. Serbia has been playing a losing game since they migrated from the caucuses. My message to Serbia is bow down.

Belgrade has 4 options -

1. Recognise Kosovo which is what Pristina so desperatley needs and in doing so cast the K Serbs aside and leave them to their fate. Highly unlikely.

2. Do a deal with Albania and Montenegro and split the province 3 ways. Montenegro gets Pec & Decani. Belgrade keeps North and Gracanica while Albania gets the rest. - again unlikely

3. Belgrade keeps North and recognises the rest of Kosovo as independent. K Serb enclaves south of the Ibar are granted full autonomy on par with Dayton Agreement in BiH. - likely

4. Status quo(and I dont mean the band). - very likely.
(Niall O'Doherty, 31 December 2011 14:38)

You are 100% correct in your analysis. Long term option 4 will have to be abandoned as it on serves to stagnate serbia economically and politcally.

Option 3 you listed is quite simply the only solution. It takes into account all factors - not just wishful thinking being exhibited by both sides. However i would like to add - the Dayton analogy cant happen. It hasnt worked in B&H , and therefore it wont work in Kosovo.

BTW - Happy New year to all.

In 2008 Ban Ki Moon highlighted in his report(you know the one that contained the famous 6 point plan) that freedom of movement was a non issue EXCEPT for minority Albanians in the north of Kosovo.
(an observation, 1 January 2012 12:21)

In some places of Kosovo Serbs could live only under 24/7 protection of KFOR, in the other places they could live in relative safety only if they don't get out of their tiny enclaves. The majority of Serb refugees from Kosovo couldn't return. Is it what you call freedom of movement?
(aaayyy, 1 January 2012 14:10
That was a UN observation, not mine I do not have to defend it. I just find it interesting that it is part of the same UN report that Serbs regard so highly.

No freedom of movement for peacekeepers:
(aaayyy, 1 January 2012 14:24)

You just discovered that now, dear ?! But that illegal act was known many years ago and was addressed by KFOR.
(icj1)

No, I "discovered" it exactly when it happened. BTW do you know what happened after? As far as I know Russian KFOR never entered Orahovac because of Albanian baricades. So the problem wasn't addressed by the KFOR leadership properly.
(aaayyy)
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When you wrote that all KSerb refugees from southern enclaves cannot return to Kosovo because of Serbian baricades, I started thinking if you were really that stupid or just pretended to be.

Serbia does 'just fine'. However, Serbia's budjet is a BILLION euros in defecit. How much of that was spent this year and last year and 10 years before that on the useless project of crying over Kosovo?

Would Serbia have slipped into last place economically and into third-world territory economically if it didn't waste so much energy on this useless project?

I'm not quite sure I agree with your characturization that Serbia is 'just fine'
(Danilo, 31 December 2011 17:17)

Perhaps you might want to enlighten us about the “fine” situation in the EU and what types of deficits member countries are currently carrying. Or maybe you want to enlighten us about the current American federal deficit. Or perhaps that EVERY state within that country is technically BROKE, hmmmm????
You want to talk about third world territory, well I can tell you that the Asian credit agencies have once again downgraded the US and EU – happy new year.

Told you so. Ivica Dacic is preparing Serbs for what's coming later. Kosovo recognition.
(Avni, 31 December 2011 16:17)

Which year is that?

"The deputy PM and interior minister assessed that it was necessary to have demarcation in Kosovo and that the international community needed to accept that Serbs did not want to live in the “independent state of Kosovo”, just like Serbia was forced to accept that the Albanians did not want to live in Serbia."

Seems to me that Dacic is pushing for the partition of Kosovo. Which I have always thought to be the most practical solution. If only the idiots in the West could see the light.

Seems to me that Dacic is pushing for the partition of Kosovo. Which I have always thought to be the most practical solution. If only the idiots in the West could see the light.
(lowe, 1 January 2012 01:13)

i agree that Dacic is pushing for the partition of Kosovo and this isn't something bright new, even Milosevic was said to agree for the partition of Kosovo, while NATO refused that option.

to icj1:

NO FREE MOVEMENT FOR THE PEACEKEEPERS!!!
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Published: August 24, 1999

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Hundreds of Albanians with tractors, cars and trucks spread out across a hillside and for a mile along a winding road today, blocking an advance column of Russian peacekeeping troops from moving in to take charge of the city.

The Albanians, mostly young men, but also families with young children, bore placards in Albanian and English that read, ''Russians killed us,'' and ''We don't trust Russians.''

After a long day on the isolated road, where cars and trucks wound up into the hills beyond their blockade, they showed no signs of backing down.
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And they brought their families and even little children to support their illegal political adventure!!!

Sure, Ian.

Serbia does 'just fine'. However, Serbia's budjet is a BILLION euros in defecit. How much of that was spent this year and last year and 10 years before that on the useless project of crying over Kosovo?

Would Serbia have slipped into last place economically and into third-world territory economically if it didn't waste so much energy on this useless project?

I'm not quite sure I agree with your characturization that Serbia is 'just fine'

And one more question: how to make KFOR take responsibility for KSerbs' southern envlaves, if the main strategic goal for KFOR is not to conflict with Albanians? Any attempt by KFOR to guarantee safety and security for KSerbs will lead to their conflict with Albanians.
(aaayyy, 31 December 2011 16:43)

Don't be concerned about that. KFOR has carried out many opetations so far to ensure the freedom of movement of Kosovo Serbs made difficult by some people playing with logs in the roads, and those KFOR operations have not led to any conflict with the Albanians.

The majority of Serb refugees from Kosovo couldn't return. Is it what you call freedom of movement?
(aaayyy, 1 January 2012 14:10)

Of course they can’t return because there are barricades in the roads they are supposed to return from. So, yes, that is a violation of the freedom of movement and KFOR is working to establish the freedom of movement for the Serbs which is made difficult by some people playing with logs in the roads.
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To icj1:
No freedom of movement for peacekeepers:
(aaayyy, 1 January 2012 14:24)

You just discovered that now, dear ?! But that illegal act was known many years ago and was addressed by KFOR.
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I omitted your most radiculas comments, which were not worth answering.
(aaayyy, 1 January 2012 14:24)

Just a correction… I cited some facts – but if don’t have an answer (i.e. facts to the contrary) then, sure, you don’t have to answer.
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I do feel respect for those KFOR soldiers who protected Serb civilians in Kosovo in 2004. Still KFOR as a whole didn't/don't fulfill its task.
(aaayyy, 1 January 2012 14:24)

Why ? What do you call “fulfilling” of the task ? Indiscriminate killing of the Albanians because some criminals attacked Serbs ?! In any case, feel free to complain to the UNSC to order the KFOR to fulfill the task if you feel that KFOR didn’t.
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And they brought their families and even little children to support their illegal political adventure!!!
(aaayyy, 1 January 2012 19:34)

Exactly, as illegal as today’s people playing with logs in the roads. That’s why they were removed at that time and they will be removed now by the KFOR to make sure that the freedom of movement of Kosovo Serbs is established.

4. Agreed, until Belgrade can choose between 1 and 3 which could take many more years. However if nationalists come to power in Serbia in the upcoming elections, 4 is going to be the only option whilst they're in power.
(Ian, UK, 31 December 2011 15:44)

The main problem here is that it isn't up to Belgrade to choose between 1 and 3, point 1 is the only one (according to US/NATO) which Belgrade is forced to accept.

All this waste of energy on the part of Serbian internet warriors since it is a fact that Serbia lost Kosova almost 13 years ago. Serbia should get on with trying to become an EU member, but first must formally recognize Kosova. Serbia will do just that in the next few months.

In 2008 Ban Ki Moon highlighted in his report(you know the one that contained the famous 6 point plan) that freedom of movement was a non issue EXCEPT for minority Albanians in the north of Kosovo.
(an observation, 1 January 2012 12:21)

In some places of Kosovo Serbs could live only under 24/7 protection of KFOR, in the other places they could live in relative safety only if they don't get out of their tiny enclaves. The majority of Serb refugees from Kosovo couldn't return. Is it what you call freedom of movement?

3. Belgrade keeps North and recognises the rest of Kosovo as independent. K Serb enclaves south of the Ibar are granted full autonomy on par with Dayton Agreement in BiH. - likely
(Niall O'Doherty, 31 December 2011 14:38)

Yes likely, but if Serbia is prepared to make similar concession to its South; predominately Albanian inhabited areas (PMB)..this is the only thing Thaqi and his minsters can sell to K. Albanians and its strong diaspora!
(femi, 1 January 2012 14:55)

The main problem is Merkel.

I am confused. Is he proposing a constitutional amendment to remove Kosovo by name from the Serbian constitution? Is that the official policy now. And does he also plan to recognize independence of Vojvodina?

"Would Serbia have slipped into last place economically and into third-world territory economically if it didn't waste so much energy on this useless project?

(Danilo, 31 December 2011 17:17)"

Can you provide the source of the data to support your claim that Serbia is in "last place economically" and "third world territory economically"? So that we can be sure that this is not another one of your fantastic but untenable scenarios?

To icj1:

No freedom of movement for peacekeepers:
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1314&dat=19990824&id=fWRWAAAAIBAJ&sjid=OvIDAAAAIBAJ&pg=2184,3721201

I omitted your most radiculas comments, which were not worth answering.

You are totaly lost because,
you have no insight as to what God has decided regarding Serbia.

O quote -

We could survive without Kosovo, IM says
Source: Beta, kurir-info.rs
BELGRADE -- Serbian Deputy PM and Interior Minister Ivica Dačić has stated that Serbia would not breakdown without Kosovo.

Comment -

Oh yes it will - You will see !!!.

Arn.Sweden.

...and Kosovo did just fine without "independence" before 2008.

In order to keep Serbs in Kosovo one has to undertake the risk of being involved in the conflict with Albanian nationalists. KFOR doesn't want to have such a risk, while Serbian army DID.
(aaayyy, 31 December 2011 17:43)

KFOR did not have an issue to shoot at Albanians and kill them in 2004 (of course Albanians who were committing crimes - not against any person they saw on the street) acting even more decisively than the Serbian army did. Whether KFOR wants to take that risk or not is irrelevant - KFOR has a mandate to do it and is clearly doing it by intervening these days to ensure the freedom of movement of Kosovo Serbs.
(icj1, 1 January 2012 04:30)

I do feel respect for those KFOR soldiers who protected Serb civilians in Kosovo in 2004. Still KFOR as a whole didn't/don't fulfill its task.

The KFOR's task:
1) to make conditions for KSerb refugees to return to Kosovo in live in safety there throughout all of Kosovo (including those refugees who were pushed from their homes in 2004).
2) to make conditions for KSerb population to stay in Kosovo and not leave it.

I know its a difficult task, taking into concideration the Albanian nationalists' mood, but who promised KFOR it would be easy?

1.swap presevo with n.kosovo and cut kosovo loos
2.take RS and offer a bit of sandzak
3.get on with your life

Happy New Year

This guy is probably sleepwalking because tomorrow he's gonna threat with war.The good thing is no matter what he says Kosova is Independent and period.It's never gonna change.You can't sell to Americans what you use to sell to Europe before.

Mr Dacic changes his position like a flip-flop everyday. Nevertheless it's not him or anyone in Serbia to make decisions about Kosova. If Serbia insists for North Kosova, then the entire game will change. Ahtisari plan was the compromise to make the serbs living in Kosova feel that they are in their own country and not in Albania. If that is not acceptable to them an agreement could be reached about land swap with Albanian populated areas in south Serbia. After that Serbia should just walk away and a political union of Kosova with Albania will follow. There is no point anymore for Ahtisaari plan as the requirements will be different from what they were when this plan was designed.

Is this what Mr Dacic wants?

Serbia has wasted half it's energy for TWELVE YEARS crying about Kosovo.

It's slowly slipped into last place in terms of economic prosperity within the region (when looked at in terms of purchasing power).

This go-nowhere project is a cancer on Serbia. When you think of all the political, economic and social capital that's thrown down this black-hole, it's simply appauling.

Good to see a Serbian politician publicly talking some sense about this topic, but I really don't know what he means about god and the ocean. Is he calling USA 'god'?? whatever the case, kinda kooky.

The Serbs living in Kosovo are no different than the Albanians living in Presheva, Medoreva and Bojonov. The only end game deals possible are:
1.) Serbian recognition of Kosovo in return full EU integration.
2.) Serbia agreeing to give away Presheva, Medoreva and Bojanov in return for N. Kosovo Serb enclaves (in this scenario I don't think we would not see an independent Kosovo but a greater Albania, rather) and Eu integration.
3.) Serbia can isolate itself from the EU, not recognize Kosovo and worship Russia (and still have no control over Kosovo)
Many Serbs will say the first two options are impossible, that's fine but although they wont admit it, I think these are the only options the Kosovo government would accept. I think the only one we could all agree on is the third. And I think that is the most likely.

The views of Mr. Dačić seem to be quite realistic. The existence of the (Albanian dominated) Kosovo is a fact wether you like it or not. And there will be noc change of this situation in present or near future. It would be in the most interest of Serbia to come to an agreement with Pristina wehre Belgrade recognizes Kosovo as state in a certain way (at first it needs not to be fully diplomatic recognition). This agreement should be combined with a (international monitored) contract to preserve the Serbian minority and the Serbian sites in Kosovo. For the 1300 km² of Nothern Kosovo it might be then possible to incorporate this area into Central Serbia without prejudice for other areas/countries. After such an agreement the possibility that Serbie will prosper will be much higher. What then will happen to Kosovo is another question, maybe it will become a failure state.

Do a deal with Albania and Montenegro and split the province 3 ways. Montenegro gets Pec & Decani. Belgrade keeps North and Gracanica while Albania gets the rest. - again unlikely


(Niall O'Doherty, 31 December 2011 14:38)

Apparently you don't know where Decani is located, and just because Decani Monastery is there, there was never Serbs there. Gjakova and Decani(both Municipalities) had a handful of Serbs for decades.

The big question is why are you speaking on behalf of Montenegro, since Montenegro has not and is not claiming any of Kosova land?

"It would be in the most interest of Serbia to come to an agreement with Pristina wehre Belgrade recognizes Kosovo as state in a certain way (at first it needs not to be fully diplomatic recognition). This agreement should be combined with a (international monitored) contract to preserve the Serbian minority and the Serbian sites in Kosovo. For the 1300 km² of Nothern Kosovo it might be then possible to incorporate this area into Central Serbia without prejudice for other areas/countries."
(Mazbln, 31 December 2011 12:50)

This would be the best solution.

"After such an agreement the possibility that Serbie will prosper will be much higher. What then will happen to Kosovo is another question, maybe it will become a failure state."
(Mazbln, 31 December 2011 12:50)

In fact, realistically seen, Kosovo is already more or less a failed state. After such an agreement, the chance for Kosovo will be higher to get away from the current limbo status and to become a normal state. Of course, there are huge doubts if a mafia state like that has a chance to survive in Europe, under normal conditions. That's why Thaci and his buddies are interested to keep the current situation.

1.swap presevo with n.kosovo and cut kosovo loos
2.take RS and offer a bit of sandzak
3.get on with your life

Happy New Year
(fez, 31 December 2011 12:18)

RS, Sandzak & Presevo are not part of the equation so there is absolutley no point in bringing them up.

Belgrade has 4 options -

1. Recognise Kosovo which is what Pristina so desperatley needs and in doing so cast the K Serbs aside and leave them to their fate. Highly unlikely.

2. Do a deal with Albania and Montenegro and split the province 3 ways. Montenegro gets Pec & Decani. Belgrade keeps North and Gracanica while Albania gets the rest. - again unlikely

3. Belgrade keeps North and recognises the rest of Kosovo as independent. K Serb enclaves south of the Ibar are granted full autonomy on par with Dayton Agreement in BiH. - likely

4. Status quo(and I dont mean the band). - very likely.

Serbia has been without Kosovo since 1999 and Serbia is functioning just fine.

Happy New Year,

And for the last day of this year, what a beautiful news for Serbia.

“My message is – let’s be skilful and decide which god we want to pray to. There’s no use kneeling down in front of everyone, you should decide which god you pray to. The policy of kneeling down in front of everyone can only lead to a paralysis,” he said adding that “god was a bit to the west from Brussels, across the ocean”.


LMAO, what the hell is he talking about? Nothing real or practical ever comes out of the governments mouth anymore. They don't answer why their 'Kosovo and EU' campaign has failed miserably nor are they making any apologies for it. Completely denying that the policy is failing and continue with their deep ignorance.

I'll tell you this, if we do lose Kosovo it will not be because the West nor Albanians. Yes they obviously had a role in it (Albanians having the least since they are just puppets) but its corrupt Serbian politicians trading our sovereignty for money..and not money for the citizens but money for themselves.

The only thing Dacic said that made any sense is the fact that Kosovo has been lost before. If it was lost in the past and then saved later on then clearly there is no such thing as forever lost. Still, I think Dacic, DS, Dinkic, Canak and all of the quislings should experience election results as the Socialist Party did after Slobo went to the Hague. I don't see who in right mind would vote for them.

Happy New Years/Srecna Nova Godina

This is a stupid comment and serves to promote Serbia's breakup and unraveling. Serbia gets no benefit by not resisting the illegal statelet of "Kosova". And he forgets all the people who can't go back to their homes and Serbs who don't even have the basic freedom of movement. Serbia approves this and the terrorism that created this "independence" if it says it is okay. It is not. And wanting to get into an anti-Serbia EU won't be the windfall some seem to think. The way they treat Serbia now with their unfair dictates, threats and false promises is they way they would if Serbia ever was allowed into the EU.
Stop trying to get into the EU-club and focus on Serbia's internal problems and deals and free-trade with those who don't have a dozen strings attached and discriminatory conditions.

RS, Sandzak & Presevo are not part of the equation so there is absolutley no point in bringing them up.

Belgrade has 4 options -

1. Recognise Kosovo which is what Pristina so desperatley needs and in doing so cast the K Serbs aside and leave them to their fate. Highly unlikely.

2. Do a deal with Albania and Montenegro and split the province 3 ways. Montenegro gets Pec & Decani. Belgrade keeps North and Gracanica while Albania gets the rest. - again unlikely

3. Belgrade keeps North and recognises the rest of Kosovo as independent. K Serb enclaves south of the Ibar are granted full autonomy on par with Dayton Agreement in BiH. - likely

4. Status quo(and I dont mean the band). - very likely.
(Niall O'Doherty, 31 December 2011 14:38)

1. I agree with you there, it is highly unlikely; but it could be more realistic in 10 years time.

2. Yes this is going to be highly unlikely, mainly because you're the only person in the world proposing this option.

3. Agreed, fastest and most realistic solution. However I don't know if the autonomy for the Serb in the remainder of Kosovo would be similar to Dayton, but I think we can agree they'd be given autonomy.

4. Agreed, until Belgrade can choose between 1 and 3 which could take many more years. However if nationalists come to power in Serbia in the upcoming elections, 4 is going to be the only option whilst they're in power.

Sure, Ian.

Serbia does 'just fine'. However, Serbia's budjet is a BILLION euros in defecit. How much of that was spent this year and last year and 10 years before that on the useless project of crying over Kosovo?

Would Serbia have slipped into last place economically and into third-world territory economically if it didn't waste so much energy on this useless project?

I'm not quite sure I agree with your characturization that Serbia is 'just fine'

Or maybe albanians from Kosovo should just move back to the poor country they once came from. Namely Albania....yes you heard me.....they do actually have a country. Should have never let them into former Yugoslavia. But as poor as they were the fled from poor Albania to then more prosperous Yugoslavia, had 6-9 children per family like rabbits and overpopulated the province. When they formed a majority they finally started screaming for independence. If you don't like the country or the politics of that particular country MOVE BACK TO YOUR OWN.

"The deputy PM and interior minister assessed that it was necessary to have demarcation in Kosovo and that the international community needed to accept that Serbs did not want to live in the “independent state of Kosovo”, just like Serbia was forced to accept that the Albanians did not want to live in Serbia. "

This guy still does not understand that he does not control the Serbs in Kosovo. Kosovo Serbs have never said that they do not want to live where they are now. Even the so-called referendum is not about Kosovo Serbs wanting to be part of Kosovo or not.

Told you so. Ivica Dacic is preparing Serbs for what's coming later. Kosovo recognition.

The solution is the recognition of Kosova. If Serbia entertains the idea of land swapping, Serbia is at a great loss. Serbia is and will never be in a position to dictate how things should be run in the Balkans. In 10 years, Albanians will be the majority population in the Balkans. Having said that, I would advise countries that border Albanians to be peace oriented and civil. Serbia has been playing a losing game since they migrated from the caucuses. My message to Serbia is bow down.

I am confused. Is he proposing a constitutional amendment to remove Kosovo by name from the Serbian constitution? Is that the official policy now. And does he also plan to recognize independence of Vojvodina?

The Serbs living in Kosovo are no different than the Albanians living in Presheva, Medoreva and Bojonov.
(Valon)

They are different. Officially Presheva, Medoreva and Bojonov are parts of Serbia, while Kosovo Serbian enclaves are disputed territories together with the rest of Kosovo.

1.swap presevo with n.kosovo and cut kosovo loos
2.take RS and offer a bit of sandzak
(fez, 31 December 2011 12:18)

1. Swap North Kosovo with the southern part (as compensation for the loss of the south)
2. take Gracanica, Novo Brdo including corridors to Serbia in exchange for Presevo, Bujanovac and 3 or 4 villages in Medvedja municipality (the rest is inhabited by a Serb majority)
3. Strpce and the recognition of 'Kosova' will be given in exchange for the patriarchate of Pec and Visoki Decani including corridors to Montenegro or Serbia proper. Other enclaves, such as Gazimestan and Velika Hoca could be discussed about.

Sounds a bit more fair... And then I didn't even mention those areas where Serbs formed a majority prior to 1999. If Serbs were allowed to return the places they fled, the map would be very different.

RS and Sandzak are totally different cases and can't be 'on offer' here. If we follow that logic, Serbs could offer you parts of Macedonia or Montenegro...

Belgrade has 4 options -

1. Recognise Kosovo which is what Pristina so desperatley needs and in doing so cast the K Serbs aside and leave them to their fate. Highly unlikely.

2. Do a deal with Albania and Montenegro and split the province 3 ways. Montenegro gets Pec & Decani. Belgrade keeps North and Gracanica while Albania gets the rest. - again unlikely

3. Belgrade keeps North and recognises the rest of Kosovo as independent. K Serb enclaves south of the Ibar are granted full autonomy on par with Dayton Agreement in BiH. - likely

4. Status quo(and I dont mean the band). - very likely.
(Niall O'Doherty, 31 December 2011 14:38)

You are 100% correct in your analysis. Long term option 4 will have to be abandoned as it on serves to stagnate serbia economically and politcally.

Option 3 you listed is quite simply the only solution. It takes into account all factors - not just wishful thinking being exhibited by both sides. However i would like to add - the Dayton analogy cant happen. It hasnt worked in B&H , and therefore it wont work in Kosovo.

BTW - Happy New year to all.

The majority of Serb refugees from Kosovo couldn't return. Is it what you call freedom of movement?
(aaayyy, 1 January 2012 14:10)

Of course they can’t return because there are barricades in the roads they are supposed to return from. So, yes, that is a violation of the freedom of movement and KFOR is working to establish the freedom of movement for the Serbs which is made difficult by some people playing with logs in the roads.
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To icj1:
No freedom of movement for peacekeepers:
(aaayyy, 1 January 2012 14:24)

You just discovered that now, dear ?! But that illegal act was known many years ago and was addressed by KFOR.
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I omitted your most radiculas comments, which were not worth answering.
(aaayyy, 1 January 2012 14:24)

Just a correction… I cited some facts – but if don’t have an answer (i.e. facts to the contrary) then, sure, you don’t have to answer.
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I do feel respect for those KFOR soldiers who protected Serb civilians in Kosovo in 2004. Still KFOR as a whole didn't/don't fulfill its task.
(aaayyy, 1 January 2012 14:24)

Why ? What do you call “fulfilling” of the task ? Indiscriminate killing of the Albanians because some criminals attacked Serbs ?! In any case, feel free to complain to the UNSC to order the KFOR to fulfill the task if you feel that KFOR didn’t.
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And they brought their families and even little children to support their illegal political adventure!!!
(aaayyy, 1 January 2012 19:34)

Exactly, as illegal as today’s people playing with logs in the roads. That’s why they were removed at that time and they will be removed now by the KFOR to make sure that the freedom of movement of Kosovo Serbs is established.

Seems to me that Dacic is pushing for the partition of Kosovo. Which I have always thought to be the most practical solution. If only the idiots in the West could see the light.
(lowe, 1 January 2012 01:13)

i agree that Dacic is pushing for the partition of Kosovo and this isn't something bright new, even Milosevic was said to agree for the partition of Kosovo, while NATO refused that option.

Dacic is a clown and opportunist who seems to change his mind every day. He will say or do anything to get votes, and make alliances with anyone to maintain his nice cabinet seat.
Let's hope Serbia votes for real patriots who don't flip flop, a la Kostunica. He is the incorruptible, honest, and will steer Serbia in the right direction.
Cheers!!

All this waste of energy on the part of Serbian internet warriors since it is a fact that Serbia lost Kosova almost 13 years ago. Serbia should get on with trying to become an EU member, but first must formally recognize Kosova. Serbia will do just that in the next few months.

In 2008 Ban Ki Moon highlighted in his report(you know the one that contained the famous 6 point plan) that freedom of movement was a non issue EXCEPT for minority Albanians in the north of Kosovo.
(an observation, 1 January 2012 12:21)

In some places of Kosovo Serbs could live only under 24/7 protection of KFOR, in the other places they could live in relative safety only if they don't get out of their tiny enclaves. The majority of Serb refugees from Kosovo couldn't return. Is it what you call freedom of movement?

to icj1:

NO FREE MOVEMENT FOR THE PEACEKEEPERS!!!
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Hundreds of Albanians with tractors, cars and trucks spread out across a hillside and for a mile along a winding road today, blocking an advance column of Russian peacekeeping troops from moving in to take charge of the city.

The Albanians, mostly young men, but also families with young children, bore placards in Albanian and English that read, ''Russians killed us,'' and ''We don't trust Russians.''

After a long day on the isolated road, where cars and trucks wound up into the hills beyond their blockade, they showed no signs of backing down.
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And they brought their families and even little children to support their illegal political adventure!!!

4. Agreed, until Belgrade can choose between 1 and 3 which could take many more years. However if nationalists come to power in Serbia in the upcoming elections, 4 is going to be the only option whilst they're in power.
(Ian, UK, 31 December 2011 15:44)

The main problem here is that it isn't up to Belgrade to choose between 1 and 3, point 1 is the only one (according to US/NATO) which Belgrade is forced to accept.

You are totaly lost because,
you have no insight as to what God has decided regarding Serbia.

O quote -

We could survive without Kosovo, IM says
Source: Beta, kurir-info.rs
BELGRADE -- Serbian Deputy PM and Interior Minister Ivica Dačić has stated that Serbia would not breakdown without Kosovo.

Comment -

Oh yes it will - You will see !!!.

Arn.Sweden.

In order to keep Serbs in Kosovo one has to undertake the risk of being involved in the conflict with Albanian nationalists. KFOR doesn't want to have such a risk, while Serbian army DID.
(aaayyy, 31 December 2011 17:43)

KFOR did not have an issue to shoot at Albanians and kill them in 2004 (of course Albanians who were committing crimes - not against any person they saw on the street) acting even more decisively than the Serbian army did. Whether KFOR wants to take that risk or not is irrelevant - KFOR has a mandate to do it and is clearly doing it by intervening these days to ensure the freedom of movement of Kosovo Serbs.
(icj1, 1 January 2012 04:30)

I do feel respect for those KFOR soldiers who protected Serb civilians in Kosovo in 2004. Still KFOR as a whole didn't/don't fulfill its task.

The KFOR's task:
1) to make conditions for KSerb refugees to return to Kosovo in live in safety there throughout all of Kosovo (including those refugees who were pushed from their homes in 2004).
2) to make conditions for KSerb population to stay in Kosovo and not leave it.

I know its a difficult task, taking into concideration the Albanian nationalists' mood, but who promised KFOR it would be easy?

3. Belgrade keeps North and recognises the rest of Kosovo as independent. K Serb enclaves south of the Ibar are granted full autonomy on par with Dayton Agreement in BiH. - likely
(Niall O'Doherty, 31 December 2011 14:38)

3. Agreed, fastest and most realistic solution. However I don't know if the autonomy for the Serb in the remainder of Kosovo would be similar to Dayton, but I think we can agree they'd be given autonomy.
(Ian, UK, 31 December 2011 15:44)

Unfortunately Merkel and Thaci don't agree with you. So the main question is: How to deal with Merkel and Thaci?

Germans are known for their abilities to never stop in time.

And one more question: how to make KFOR take responsibility for KSerbs' southern envlaves, if the main strategic goal for KFOR is not to conflict with Albanians? Any attempt by KFOR to guarantee safety and security for KSerbs will lead to their conflict with Albanians.

Dear, I did not say that Kosovo is a country. Let's assume is a black hole or whatever. My point was that if Thaci was doing the same thing that Serbia did, that makes that thing bilateral, not unilateral. I know that the paranoia about Kosovo being a country stops the reasoning process in some people's minds, but I don't think the above is so hard to understand.
(icj1, 30 December 2011 02:51)

Did Serbia send police to control the border with Albania?
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To my knowledge, there are no barricades in those places. But, I'm sure KFOR will intervene if anybody were to build barricades in South Kosovo similarly to the North where some people playing with logs in the roads are doing whatever they can to make very difficult the freedom of movement of K. Serbs to Serbia and viceversa. still K. Serbs should be able to travel and trade without difficulties with Serbia.
(icj1, 30 December 2011 03:25)

1) In the south barricades don't prevent freedom of movement, while Albanian nationalists do.
2) albanian nationalists prevented freedom of movement of Russian troops entereng Kosovo in 1999

"Would Serbia have slipped into last place economically and into third-world territory economically if it didn't waste so much energy on this useless project?

(Danilo, 31 December 2011 17:17)"

Can you provide the source of the data to support your claim that Serbia is in "last place economically" and "third world territory economically"? So that we can be sure that this is not another one of your fantastic but untenable scenarios?

...and Kosovo did just fine without "independence" before 2008.

To icj1:

No freedom of movement for peacekeepers:
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1314&dat=19990824&id=fWRWAAAAIBAJ&sjid=OvIDAAAAIBAJ&pg=2184,3721201

I omitted your most radiculas comments, which were not worth answering.

3. Belgrade keeps North and recognises the rest of Kosovo as independent. K Serb enclaves south of the Ibar are granted full autonomy on par with Dayton Agreement in BiH. - likely
(Niall O'Doherty, 31 December 2011 14:38)

Yes likely, but if Serbia is prepared to make similar concession to its South; predominately Albanian inhabited areas (PMB)..this is the only thing Thaqi and his minsters can sell to K. Albanians and its strong diaspora!
(femi, 1 January 2012 14:55)

The main problem is Merkel.

No freedom of movement for peacekeepers:
(aaayyy, 1 January 2012 14:24)

You just discovered that now, dear ?! But that illegal act was known many years ago and was addressed by KFOR.
(icj1)

No, I "discovered" it exactly when it happened. BTW do you know what happened after? As far as I know Russian KFOR never entered Orahovac because of Albanian baricades. So the problem wasn't addressed by the KFOR leadership properly.
(aaayyy)
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When you wrote that all KSerb refugees from southern enclaves cannot return to Kosovo because of Serbian baricades, I started thinking if you were really that stupid or just pretended to be.

Serbia does 'just fine'. However, Serbia's budjet is a BILLION euros in defecit. How much of that was spent this year and last year and 10 years before that on the useless project of crying over Kosovo?

Would Serbia have slipped into last place economically and into third-world territory economically if it didn't waste so much energy on this useless project?

I'm not quite sure I agree with your characturization that Serbia is 'just fine'
(Danilo, 31 December 2011 17:17)

Perhaps you might want to enlighten us about the “fine” situation in the EU and what types of deficits member countries are currently carrying. Or maybe you want to enlighten us about the current American federal deficit. Or perhaps that EVERY state within that country is technically BROKE, hmmmm????
You want to talk about third world territory, well I can tell you that the Asian credit agencies have once again downgraded the US and EU – happy new year.

Told you so. Ivica Dacic is preparing Serbs for what's coming later. Kosovo recognition.
(Avni, 31 December 2011 16:17)

Which year is that?

3. Belgrade keeps North and recognises the rest of Kosovo as independent. K Serb enclaves south of the Ibar are granted full autonomy on par with Dayton Agreement in BiH. - likely
(Niall O'Doherty, 31 December 2011 14:38)

Yes likely, but if Serbia is prepared to make similar concession to its South; predominately Albanian inhabited areas (PMB)..this is the only thing Thaqi and his minsters can sell to K. Albanians and its strong diaspora!

"It would be in the most interest of Serbia to come to an agreement with Pristina wehre Belgrade recognizes Kosovo as state in a certain way (at first it needs not to be fully diplomatic recognition). This agreement should be combined with a (international monitored) contract to preserve the Serbian minority and the Serbian sites in Kosovo. For the 1300 km² of Nothern Kosovo it might be then possible to incorporate this area into Central Serbia without prejudice for other areas/countries."
(Mazbln, 31 December 2011 12:50)

This would be the best solution.
(Analist)

In this case KSerbs from Southern enclaves could be forced to leave Kosovo. The question is how to make KFOR bear responsibility for KSerbs' destiny (if Kosovo is to be divided), if KFOR doesn't want to do it even now?

Did Serbia send police to control the border with Albania?
(aaayyy, 31 December 2011 18:05)

I’m not Ivica… You should ask him
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1) In the south barricades don't prevent freedom of movement, while Albanian nationalists do.
(aaayyy, 31 December 2011 18:05)

As you said, there are no barricades in the South to prevent the freedom of movement of any Kosovo citizen (be that Albanian, Serb, Roma, etc…).
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2) albanian nationalists prevented freedom of movement of Russian troops entereng Kosovo in 1999
(aaayyy, 31 December 2011 18:05)

That is because the Russian Foreign Minister said that their entry was a mistake (assuming that what you said is true).

"The deputy PM and interior minister assessed that it was necessary to have demarcation in Kosovo and that the international community needed to accept that Serbs did not want to live in the “independent state of Kosovo”, just like Serbia was forced to accept that the Albanians did not want to live in Serbia."

Seems to me that Dacic is pushing for the partition of Kosovo. Which I have always thought to be the most practical solution. If only the idiots in the West could see the light.

And one more question: how to make KFOR take responsibility for KSerbs' southern envlaves, if the main strategic goal for KFOR is not to conflict with Albanians? Any attempt by KFOR to guarantee safety and security for KSerbs will lead to their conflict with Albanians.
(aaayyy, 31 December 2011 16:43)

Don't be concerned about that. KFOR has carried out many opetations so far to ensure the freedom of movement of Kosovo Serbs made difficult by some people playing with logs in the roads, and those KFOR operations have not led to any conflict with the Albanians.

Serbia will also survive without Dacic too! Dump the bum out of office.
Way to leave people hanging...literally if the KLA in Pristina take over.

And one more question: how to make KFOR take responsibility for KSerbs' southern envlaves, if the main strategic goal for KFOR is not to conflict with Albanians? Any attempt by KFOR to guarantee safety and security for KSerbs will lead to their conflict with Albanians.
(aaayyy, 31 December 2011 16:43)
In 2008 Ban Ki Moon highlighted in his report(you know the one that contained the famous 6 point plan) that freedom of movement was a non issue EXCEPT for minority Albanians in the north of Kosovo.

In 2008 Ban Ki Moon highlighted in his report(you know the one that contained the famous 6 point plan) that freedom of movement was a non issue EXCEPT for minority Albanians in the north of Kosovo.
(an observation, 1 January 2012 12:21)

In some places of Kosovo Serbs could live only under 24/7 protection of KFOR, in the other places they could live in relative safety only if they don't get out of their tiny enclaves. The majority of Serb refugees from Kosovo couldn't return. Is it what you call freedom of movement?
(aaayyy, 1 January 2012 14:10
That was a UN observation, not mine I do not have to defend it. I just find it interesting that it is part of the same UN report that Serbs regard so highly.