One of 5 remaining Serbs in Kosovo town dies

Albanian ethnic clensing of serbs was rewarded by americans and europeans by giving albanians a state. Western europe and the US deserve nothing less then an islamic takeover and eventuall destruction of western society.

Kosovo: Cultural genocide since WW2 and actual genocide since the 90's.

RIP and Nema Predaje, ever.

I am bonr in Prishtina. My relatives lives in Gjakova. Gjakova city suffer a the most brutal agresive and attrocities from Serb army and paramilitaries including a locals from Gjakova. Check in internet and you will se e photos of those victims. Hundred of families still mising persons and those paramilitaries tale all mens from family and killed brutaly, including a mye relatives and on of them was a my proffesor at Prishtina University.

'The four elderly women who still remain there live under 24-hour protection of the Kosovo police (KPS).'

What a wonderful place that the Germans/Yanks created. A place where even elderly women can not walk freely to buy groceries, can not openly speak their native language without getting attacked, and can not leave their compound without military escorts. How can the Albrights, Wesley Clarks, Javier Solanas, Bernard Kouchners, and Merkels of the world even look themselves in the mirror? I guess when you have no conscience, no morals, you have no guilt either. These people are sick war criminals. The scum of the earth.

"One of 5 remaining Serbs in Kosovo town dies - Prior to 1999, several thousand Serbs lived in Djakovica."

So much about the 'return of refuguees'

"The four elderly women who still remain there live under 24-hour protection of the Kosovo police (KPS)."

So much about the 'multi-ethnic and democratic Kosovo' where minorities have more rights than anywhere in the world.

"those alledged 2000 were UCK terrosrist or their voluntary human shields as a product of albo clan-based social structure "
(to rolandi, 26 December 2011 12:37)

And the alleged 200,000 Serbs who fled Kosovo or were expelled have all been collaborators of Milosevic, paramilitaries supporters, helpers and killers, right? Oh, how was TV nice when it was only black and white :)

This is what awaits the rest of Kosovo if serbs give in to german demands to abolish its institutions.

I say that serbs should treat albanians in the rest of Serbia just as serbs are treated in Kosovo.

Should Serbs now go and kill Albanians in Presevo valley because they had relatives that were killed by Albanians? I cannot see this form of reasoning. When will it end?

Gjakova and its residents suffered the most heinous crimes in the hands of Serbian Paramilitary as well as Serbian civilians living in town. Serbs killed women and children in Gjakova more then any other town in Kosovo.

The reason for this was that Gjakova has always been the intellectual and cultural center for Albanians of Kosovo. It was Serbs that wanted to eradicate that.

Now do you wonder why there are no Serbs in Gjakova? I don't think so...

To Ari Gold,

Buddy I love reading your comments...one thing....K serbs have been ethnically cleansed from Kosovo for almost 700 years...first with the help of the Turks, then Germans(WW1 &2) with the help of Albanians and now albos with their old Nazis friend and NATO. But Kosovo is still not going anywhere...serbs will fight or die trying...

the reasen serbs cant not go in djakovica is the serbian regime killd more then 2000 albanians what do you thing serbs shuld be free living in djakovica noh if ther is hell for serbs then they shuldn not go live in djakovica cause djakovica is hell for serbs serbs are not wellcome in djakovica so stay out
(rolandi, 26 December 2011 11:18)

To rolandi,

Yes Serbs should be free living in Djakovica or any town, village, park, or market that exists in Kosovo...why do K.albos think that kosovo only belongs to them? Why do albos want to control north kosovo? ....those surviving k. serbs dont trust albos....who would when for the last 13 years you have been kidnapping and cutting people to peaces for their organs....with love from Canada

Timber wolf

the reasen serbs cant not go in djakovica is the serbian regime killd more then 2000 albanians what do you thing serbs shuld be free living in djakovica noh if ther is hell for serbs then they shuldn not go live in djakovica cause djakovica is hell for serbs serbs are not wellcome in djakovica so stay out

those alledged 2000 were UCK terrosrist or their voluntary human shields as a product of albo clan-based social structure - and in the future, when Serbs will return you will face the same - you are not welcomed in KiM - happy Easter or how was that...LOL
(to rolandi, 26 December 2011 12:37)

Is the posting above part of the Serbian charm offensive to win K-Albanians' hearts and minds?

I guess the albanians in this town see this as, one down and four to go...

those alledged 2000 were UCK terrosrist or their voluntary human shields as a product of albo clan-based social structure - and in the future, when Serbs will return you will face the same - you are not welcomed in KiM - happy Easter or how was that...LOL

Merry Christmas!

well ...eventually it all comes to about resources - land or KiM territory. It is plain clear that both -Albos and Serbs consider it`s theirs. legally it has been Serbs`and still is - ICJ only ruled that everyone is entitled to declare whatever they want as a freedom of opinion...but it never ruled that secession was or would be legal - point - and if anybody from Albo camp shows me that para or passage in the judgement - then I will have to admit to that... But the reason why ICJ would never rule that on the ground of breach of human rights - because KiM Albos have done worse - they have ethnically cleansed the owners of the territory and killed - by percentages - more of them than vice versa .. - one should not forget that most of the killed from KiM side were from UCK or linked to them - one material proof, for instance,lies with those memorial plaques with thousands of names all over the stolen KiM depicting both women and men. the point is that on those stones they wear uniforms though, in reality most of them were illegal combatants, but the US just decided to please Islamic world and played along. ICJ would never be able to rule in favour of KiM separatists becuse according to basic legal theory a new entity, though formerly being opressed, should not turn into new opressors - that is why the starting point set by the UN was - standards before status. again, UCK showed their real bloody face in March, 2004 and the result was islamo-fashist wannabe state because the West could not bomb "victims" who in fact were the perpetrators - it is called political correctness. It is also clear that KiM Albos conduct is of their idol A. Hitler`s one - once they needed, as a result of their sensless overbreeding, Lebensraum, they followed the latter`s trail. As history tends to repeat itself then it is obvious that the sufferings of the Serbs will not go unpunished. And once KiM "illyrians" think there is no place for Serbs there then do not expect any courtesy towards yourself either.

A place where even elderly women can not walk freely to buy groceries, can not openly speak their native language without getting attacked,
(Dragan, 26 December 2011 19:48)

Sounds a lot like a Kosovo-Albanian's life under Serbian rule. Only that you didn't care then because it was onyl affecting those whom you considered second class citizens.

WE do not gorget and will never forgive
(lili, 26 December 2011 19:53)

With that attitude it looks like at one point in the future Serbs may indeed need a lot of old rusty spoons.

A place where even elderly women can not walk freely to buy groceries, can not openly speak their native language without getting attacked,
(Dragan, 26 December 2011 19:48)

Sounds a lot like a Kosovo-Albanian's life under Serbian rule. Only that you didn't care then because it was onyl affecting those whom you considered second class citizens.
(Radio GaGa, 26 December 2011 20:57)

Hey Freddy Mercury, that is blatant lie and you know it. Kosovo under Serbian rule was pure heaven for albanians. They had jobs, health care, quality education in their own language...things they never had in their native Albania. Why do you think they flooded into Kosovo illegally genius, because it was hell on earth?? You albanians are funny, it seems you just make things up as you go along which bear no resemblance to reality. I guess you learned well from your idol, Josef Goebbels - if you repeat a lie enough times it eventually becomes the truth. Not gonna happen this time. We Serbs know the truth and we are spreading it every day.
Cheers!!

human rights violations are exactly what Albos and their supporters have been bringing on the table as a "trump"- otherwise KiM Albanians would NOT have a slightest justification for secession from the Int Law perspective. But again, ICJ just did not take on that by knowing that "Standards before status" were not met... Indeed court ruled " it focused on the specific question received from the UN General Assembly, and did not discuss the right to self-determination or secession" or "The court found that it had the jurisdiction to answer the question forwarded to it, but not to deal with the issue of the consequences of the UDI, in particular, to determine whether such declarations resulted in a statehood" . If you are familiar with legal theory then declaration of one`s will may result in different outcomes, especially when ius scriptum or customary law leaves it for different parties discretion. Or if KiM is such a special case as the US points out, then why it cannot be for instance divided - this would NOT set ANY legal precedent either... It is also clear that the US and the West have undermined their own agenda by allowing "their" basic values - human rights - to be trampled over by nazi-like supremacy driven KiM Albanians, whose goal has always been either through silent or open ethnic cleansing to rid KiM of its legal and historical owners.
But as I already mentioned - history repats itself and like your forefathers together with muslim Turks got booted once, UCK will eventually face the same destiny.

"Serbs were not there first, nor did they rule for longest."
But they were the ones who gave Kosovo its name (Kosovo i Metohija) and built almost all its historical buildings/churches lasting through the centuries to this day. Kosovo's historical mosques were built by the Turkish/Ottoman occupiers and not Albanians - and the Turkish were those who ruled the area (and collected taxes/goods for their empire) and were not really a people of the area.
It was Serbs who really made a history of Kosovo as it was an important place of Serbian royalty and religious in the Medieval Ages when it really prospered.
The Romans also were mainly conquerors with their army and didn't really set up lasting Roman towns and villages of their own civilians in the area - just mainly places for their army/soldiers and rulers and those who served them.

Serbs do know what they have done in gjakove,and that's why they left gjakove.And that's why they will not returnthere because WE do not gorget and will never forgive:do you really think that the children without their father will forget ? do you really think that their children won't ask where are our grand parents? So be sure that for 2 generations,you have no place in gjakove!

It's interesting to always refer to the Organ case when nothing was found that could make someone guilty. Just a general rule of law, is that you are innocent until found guilty. so if there is no evidence, you can only speculate, and to the world, speculation is nothing (evidence is needed).
As far as Djakovica goes, more crimes were done there than any other place. Out of ~2000 albanians who are still missing, the majority of them are from that town. They were not terrorists becaus they were executed by the city river and people witnessed it and also they know serbs took innocent civilians. yes Djakovica has always been a cradle of cultural, political, business and social progression for albanians since at least 13th century when no serbs ever lived there. Most powerful people lived there, they wanted them dead. Plus that city was 98% albanian, so it was easy not to miss any.

"..it was "important for a Serb soul to be present in this town"." Why is so important to BUST yourself?

We Serbs know the truth and we are spreading it every day.
Cheers!!
(Dragan, 27 December 2011 00:03)

Like for example this guy does: http://www.b92.net/eng/news/crimes-article.php?yyyy=2011&mm=12&dd=27&nav_id=77998

Hey Freddy Mercury, that is blatant lie and you know it. Kosovo under Serbian rule was pure heaven for albanians. They had jobs, health care, quality education in their own language...things they never had in their native Albania. Why do you think they flooded into Kosovo illegally genius, because it was hell on earth?? You albanians are funny, it seems you just make things up as you go along which bear no resemblance to reality. I guess you learned well from your idol, Josef Goebbels - if you repeat a lie enough times it eventually becomes the truth. Not gonna happen this time. We Serbs know the truth and we are spreading it every day.
Cheers!!
(Dragan, 27 December 2011 00:03)

At first I thought that this comment above was a parody of a radical Serb's world of thought. Now I am afraid that this guy is serious. Perhaps he should tune in to another station than radio gaga.

".. A place where even elderly women can not walk freely to buy groceries, can not openly speak their native language without getting attacked, and can not leave their compound without military escorts. How can the ....world even look themselves in the mirror? I guess when you have no conscience, no morals, you have no guilt either. These people are sick war criminals. The scum of the earth."
(Dragan, 26 December 2011 19:48)

HMMMM.not sure if you are talking of Kosovars or the Serbians who held seige to Sarajevo/Dubrovnik/Vukovar etc. Either way , its good to see that you think your own military are "sick war criminals.The scum of the earth."......after all , surelly what is good for the goose is good for the gander right???!!!!

You have a nice day now :)

"Gjakova is the biggest city of a larger Albanian region Dukagjin part of which was "occupied" by Yugo. Gjakova in Albanian means Gjak=blood" -

Firstly take some law classes - Yugo never occupied that place!
Secondly, now it is clear why Shqiptars use the word "blood" to mark Dakovica - they killed all the original inhabitants over there and are so proud of their savagery that named even the place after that - sth like bloodbath and misery follows to every place where "an illyrian sets his/her foot"?

Gjakova is the biggest city of a larger Albanian region Dukagjin part of which was occupied by Yugo. Gjakova in Albanian means Gjak=blood. That city was burned and killed by Serbs many times in the past the last in 1999.

The Serbian soul there is the demons soul, as in most parts of Kosova.

Italians say ‘who sows wind storm gathers’

ICJ only ruled that everyone is entitled to declare whatever they want as a freedom of opinion...
(exKFOR, 26 December 2011 21:13)

No sir, you are totally off track… ICJ never said the above – unless of course that was in the Serbian version. Usually the Serbian version of many acts related to Kosovo (ICJ decision, Res. 1244, etc) contains much more words than the English one :)
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but it never ruled that secession was or would be legal - point - and if anybody from Albo camp shows me that para or passage in the judgement - then I will have to admit to that...
(exKFOR, 26 December 2011 21:13)

You don’t have to admit anything dear; the ICJ was never asked and, obviously, did not rule about Serbia’s secession from the Ottoman Empire or the secession of anybody from somebody. ICJ was asked whether Kosovo’s UDI was legal and ICJ said that it was legal. End of the story – that’s all Albanians wanted. If you have any other question you have doubts about, feel free to ask ICJ about it.
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But the reason why ICJ would never rule that on the ground of breach of human rights - because KiM Albos have done worse - they have ethnically cleansed and bla, bla, bla…
(exKFOR, 26 December 2011 21:13)

The reason is much simpler… nobody asked ICJ about that :)

ida

do not embarrass yourself with such stupidity. so now the criterion for historical is buildings of worship is it? i stand by my comment, Serbs were not there first, nor did they rule for longest. In fact, the Ottoman Turks ruled Kosovo for far longer and the Romans ruled Serbia & Kosovo for ar longer than the Serbs did. Think logically, the Serbs were the occupying peoples, they usurped the terrotory from the Romans, so if you want to solve this particular issue by virtue of history, let us give it to Italy

p.s. the name Kosovo is first found in a 16th century Turkish document. do not lecture me on history,

icj- you really don't get it do you? The UDI was declared legal but it was a fudge and meant to be such. What they said is it is legal to declare independence. Anyone can. North Kosovo can. I can. It means nothing but you just keep banging on about it. No decision was made about declaration without negotiation and whether a part of a country can split off unilaterally. It did not declare kosovo independent, which is what you constantly imply.

So be sure that for 2 generations,you have no place in gjakove!
(lili, 26 December 2011 19:53)
In Djakovica situacion did not change from 70's, per your calculation time for 2 generations is over. Serb is welcome today!

"...historical owners. "

I've always wanted to know who those 'historical' owners are? Serbs were not there first, nor did they rule for longest. you'll find the Romans presiding over Kosovo and indeed Serbia or for much longer than either Albanians or Serbs. in case you do not know, the Italians happen to be the descendants of Rome. Seems to me the logical conclusion to all this is to give Kosovo to Italy and restore Kosovo back to its 'historical' owners.

human rights violations are exactly what Albos and their supporters have been bringing on the table as a "trump"- otherwise KiM Albanians would NOT have a slightest justification for secession from the Int Law perspective.
(to icj1 from exKFOR, 27 December 2011 11:19)

Mate, the UDI is in accordance with international law according to the ICJ, end of the story. You can continue to flog a dead horse as much as you like…
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But again, ICJ just did not take on that by knowing that "Standards before status" were not met...
(to icj1 from exKFOR, 27 December 2011 11:19)

No, the ICJ did not say that. The ICJ did not take on that, because it was not asked about. Note the question was whether the UDI was in accordance with international law, not whether the Albanians had an entitlement to declare the UDI. Indeed, the court said:

“the task which the Court is called upon to perform is to determine whether or not the declaration of independence was adopted in violation of international law. The Court is not required by the question it has been asked to take a position on whether international law conferred a positive entitlement on Kosovo unilaterally to declare its independence”

But, just for the sake of the argument, let’s assume that the int’l law does NOT confer a right for the Albanians to exercise to declare the UDI; still that that does not make the UDI illegal under international law. Indeed, the Court said:

“it is entirely possible for a particular act ⎯ such as a unilateral declaration of independence ⎯ not to be in violation of international law without necessarily constituting the exercise of a right conferred by it”.

Just to provide a simpler analogy so that you understand; getting a driver's license is NOT a right, but you can still get it in accordance with the law without doing anything illegal. Now replace “drivers license” with “UDI” and you get the idea.

But again, if you want an answer to the question whether Kosovo has a right to declare a UDI, by all means, go and ask it. If the Court says yes, it is an additional reason in support of UDI’s legality. If the Court says, no, the UDI still remains legal under Court’s 2010 Opinion reasoning. So the answer to that question does not have any practical effect beside its academic purposes.

But as I already mentioned - history repats itself and like your forefathers together with muslim Turks got booted once, UCK will eventually face the same destiny. exKFOR, 27 December 2011 11:19

I don't see how a Serb can be an exKFOR

However, we Albanians will welcome your lapse into poor judgement once again so we can teach you another yet to be learned lesson.

icj- you really don't get it do you? The UDI was declared legal but it was a fudge and meant to be such.
(Wally, 28 December 2011 11:49)

You are correct, dear, I only get the things that are written. The “fudge” stuff is not written anywhere, so, yes, I don’t get it.
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What they said is it is legal to declare independence. Anyone can. North Kosovo can. I can.
(Wally, 28 December 2011 11:49)

They did not say that, but, by all means, go ahead and declare independence three times a day if you so wish. I’m sure Albanians in Kosovo will not have any issue with you about that.
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It means nothing but you just keep banging on about it.
(Wally, 28 December 2011 11:49)

I did not bang about it dear. It’s the Serbs that think that Serbia’s UDI from the Ottoman Empire meant something. But if you disagree with that, I’m fine.
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No decision was made about declaration without negotiation and whether a part of a country can split off unilaterally. It did not declare kosovo independent, which is what you constantly imply.
(Wally, 28 December 2011 11:49)

No, I did not say that. The only thing I’m saying is that the declaration of independence of Kosovo adopted on 17 February 2008 did not violate international law. Do you have any issue with that ?

the reasen serbs cant not go in djakovica is the serbian regime killd more then 2000 albanians what do you thing serbs shuld be free living in djakovica noh if ther is hell for serbs then they shuldn not go live in djakovica cause djakovica is hell for serbs serbs are not wellcome in djakovica so stay out

I am bonr in Prishtina. My relatives lives in Gjakova. Gjakova city suffer a the most brutal agresive and attrocities from Serb army and paramilitaries including a locals from Gjakova. Check in internet and you will se e photos of those victims. Hundred of families still mising persons and those paramilitaries tale all mens from family and killed brutaly, including a mye relatives and on of them was a my proffesor at Prishtina University.

those alledged 2000 were UCK terrosrist or their voluntary human shields as a product of albo clan-based social structure - and in the future, when Serbs will return you will face the same - you are not welcomed in KiM - happy Easter or how was that...LOL

Serbs do know what they have done in gjakove,and that's why they left gjakove.And that's why they will not returnthere because WE do not gorget and will never forgive:do you really think that the children without their father will forget ? do you really think that their children won't ask where are our grand parents? So be sure that for 2 generations,you have no place in gjakove!

Kosovo: Cultural genocide since WW2 and actual genocide since the 90's.

RIP and Nema Predaje, ever.

"..it was "important for a Serb soul to be present in this town"." Why is so important to BUST yourself?

Albanian ethnic clensing of serbs was rewarded by americans and europeans by giving albanians a state. Western europe and the US deserve nothing less then an islamic takeover and eventuall destruction of western society.

Gjakova and its residents suffered the most heinous crimes in the hands of Serbian Paramilitary as well as Serbian civilians living in town. Serbs killed women and children in Gjakova more then any other town in Kosovo.

The reason for this was that Gjakova has always been the intellectual and cultural center for Albanians of Kosovo. It was Serbs that wanted to eradicate that.

Now do you wonder why there are no Serbs in Gjakova? I don't think so...

A place where even elderly women can not walk freely to buy groceries, can not openly speak their native language without getting attacked,
(Dragan, 26 December 2011 19:48)

Sounds a lot like a Kosovo-Albanian's life under Serbian rule. Only that you didn't care then because it was onyl affecting those whom you considered second class citizens.

"One of 5 remaining Serbs in Kosovo town dies - Prior to 1999, several thousand Serbs lived in Djakovica."

So much about the 'return of refuguees'

"The four elderly women who still remain there live under 24-hour protection of the Kosovo police (KPS)."

So much about the 'multi-ethnic and democratic Kosovo' where minorities have more rights than anywhere in the world.

To Ari Gold,

Buddy I love reading your comments...one thing....K serbs have been ethnically cleansed from Kosovo for almost 700 years...first with the help of the Turks, then Germans(WW1 &2) with the help of Albanians and now albos with their old Nazis friend and NATO. But Kosovo is still not going anywhere...serbs will fight or die trying...

the reasen serbs cant not go in djakovica is the serbian regime killd more then 2000 albanians what do you thing serbs shuld be free living in djakovica noh if ther is hell for serbs then they shuldn not go live in djakovica cause djakovica is hell for serbs serbs are not wellcome in djakovica so stay out
(rolandi, 26 December 2011 11:18)

To rolandi,

Yes Serbs should be free living in Djakovica or any town, village, park, or market that exists in Kosovo...why do K.albos think that kosovo only belongs to them? Why do albos want to control north kosovo? ....those surviving k. serbs dont trust albos....who would when for the last 13 years you have been kidnapping and cutting people to peaces for their organs....with love from Canada

Timber wolf

It's interesting to always refer to the Organ case when nothing was found that could make someone guilty. Just a general rule of law, is that you are innocent until found guilty. so if there is no evidence, you can only speculate, and to the world, speculation is nothing (evidence is needed).
As far as Djakovica goes, more crimes were done there than any other place. Out of ~2000 albanians who are still missing, the majority of them are from that town. They were not terrorists becaus they were executed by the city river and people witnessed it and also they know serbs took innocent civilians. yes Djakovica has always been a cradle of cultural, political, business and social progression for albanians since at least 13th century when no serbs ever lived there. Most powerful people lived there, they wanted them dead. Plus that city was 98% albanian, so it was easy not to miss any.

Hey Freddy Mercury, that is blatant lie and you know it. Kosovo under Serbian rule was pure heaven for albanians. They had jobs, health care, quality education in their own language...things they never had in their native Albania. Why do you think they flooded into Kosovo illegally genius, because it was hell on earth?? You albanians are funny, it seems you just make things up as you go along which bear no resemblance to reality. I guess you learned well from your idol, Josef Goebbels - if you repeat a lie enough times it eventually becomes the truth. Not gonna happen this time. We Serbs know the truth and we are spreading it every day.
Cheers!!
(Dragan, 27 December 2011 00:03)

At first I thought that this comment above was a parody of a radical Serb's world of thought. Now I am afraid that this guy is serious. Perhaps he should tune in to another station than radio gaga.

those alledged 2000 were UCK terrosrist or their voluntary human shields as a product of albo clan-based social structure - and in the future, when Serbs will return you will face the same - you are not welcomed in KiM - happy Easter or how was that...LOL
(to rolandi, 26 December 2011 12:37)

Is the posting above part of the Serbian charm offensive to win K-Albanians' hearts and minds?

WE do not gorget and will never forgive
(lili, 26 December 2011 19:53)

With that attitude it looks like at one point in the future Serbs may indeed need a lot of old rusty spoons.

This is what awaits the rest of Kosovo if serbs give in to german demands to abolish its institutions.

I say that serbs should treat albanians in the rest of Serbia just as serbs are treated in Kosovo.

".. A place where even elderly women can not walk freely to buy groceries, can not openly speak their native language without getting attacked, and can not leave their compound without military escorts. How can the ....world even look themselves in the mirror? I guess when you have no conscience, no morals, you have no guilt either. These people are sick war criminals. The scum of the earth."
(Dragan, 26 December 2011 19:48)

HMMMM.not sure if you are talking of Kosovars or the Serbians who held seige to Sarajevo/Dubrovnik/Vukovar etc. Either way , its good to see that you think your own military are "sick war criminals.The scum of the earth."......after all , surelly what is good for the goose is good for the gander right???!!!!

You have a nice day now :)

Merry Christmas!

Should Serbs now go and kill Albanians in Presevo valley because they had relatives that were killed by Albanians? I cannot see this form of reasoning. When will it end?

A place where even elderly women can not walk freely to buy groceries, can not openly speak their native language without getting attacked,
(Dragan, 26 December 2011 19:48)

Sounds a lot like a Kosovo-Albanian's life under Serbian rule. Only that you didn't care then because it was onyl affecting those whom you considered second class citizens.
(Radio GaGa, 26 December 2011 20:57)

Hey Freddy Mercury, that is blatant lie and you know it. Kosovo under Serbian rule was pure heaven for albanians. They had jobs, health care, quality education in their own language...things they never had in their native Albania. Why do you think they flooded into Kosovo illegally genius, because it was hell on earth?? You albanians are funny, it seems you just make things up as you go along which bear no resemblance to reality. I guess you learned well from your idol, Josef Goebbels - if you repeat a lie enough times it eventually becomes the truth. Not gonna happen this time. We Serbs know the truth and we are spreading it every day.
Cheers!!

We Serbs know the truth and we are spreading it every day.
Cheers!!
(Dragan, 27 December 2011 00:03)

Like for example this guy does: http://www.b92.net/eng/news/crimes-article.php?yyyy=2011&mm=12&dd=27&nav_id=77998

"those alledged 2000 were UCK terrosrist or their voluntary human shields as a product of albo clan-based social structure "
(to rolandi, 26 December 2011 12:37)

And the alleged 200,000 Serbs who fled Kosovo or were expelled have all been collaborators of Milosevic, paramilitaries supporters, helpers and killers, right? Oh, how was TV nice when it was only black and white :)

'The four elderly women who still remain there live under 24-hour protection of the Kosovo police (KPS).'

What a wonderful place that the Germans/Yanks created. A place where even elderly women can not walk freely to buy groceries, can not openly speak their native language without getting attacked, and can not leave their compound without military escorts. How can the Albrights, Wesley Clarks, Javier Solanas, Bernard Kouchners, and Merkels of the world even look themselves in the mirror? I guess when you have no conscience, no morals, you have no guilt either. These people are sick war criminals. The scum of the earth.

"...historical owners. "

I've always wanted to know who those 'historical' owners are? Serbs were not there first, nor did they rule for longest. you'll find the Romans presiding over Kosovo and indeed Serbia or for much longer than either Albanians or Serbs. in case you do not know, the Italians happen to be the descendants of Rome. Seems to me the logical conclusion to all this is to give Kosovo to Italy and restore Kosovo back to its 'historical' owners.

I guess the albanians in this town see this as, one down and four to go...

human rights violations are exactly what Albos and their supporters have been bringing on the table as a "trump"- otherwise KiM Albanians would NOT have a slightest justification for secession from the Int Law perspective.
(to icj1 from exKFOR, 27 December 2011 11:19)

Mate, the UDI is in accordance with international law according to the ICJ, end of the story. You can continue to flog a dead horse as much as you like…
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But again, ICJ just did not take on that by knowing that "Standards before status" were not met...
(to icj1 from exKFOR, 27 December 2011 11:19)

No, the ICJ did not say that. The ICJ did not take on that, because it was not asked about. Note the question was whether the UDI was in accordance with international law, not whether the Albanians had an entitlement to declare the UDI. Indeed, the court said:

“the task which the Court is called upon to perform is to determine whether or not the declaration of independence was adopted in violation of international law. The Court is not required by the question it has been asked to take a position on whether international law conferred a positive entitlement on Kosovo unilaterally to declare its independence”

But, just for the sake of the argument, let’s assume that the int’l law does NOT confer a right for the Albanians to exercise to declare the UDI; still that that does not make the UDI illegal under international law. Indeed, the Court said:

“it is entirely possible for a particular act ⎯ such as a unilateral declaration of independence ⎯ not to be in violation of international law without necessarily constituting the exercise of a right conferred by it”.

Just to provide a simpler analogy so that you understand; getting a driver's license is NOT a right, but you can still get it in accordance with the law without doing anything illegal. Now replace “drivers license” with “UDI” and you get the idea.

But again, if you want an answer to the question whether Kosovo has a right to declare a UDI, by all means, go and ask it. If the Court says yes, it is an additional reason in support of UDI’s legality. If the Court says, no, the UDI still remains legal under Court’s 2010 Opinion reasoning. So the answer to that question does not have any practical effect beside its academic purposes.

well ...eventually it all comes to about resources - land or KiM territory. It is plain clear that both -Albos and Serbs consider it`s theirs. legally it has been Serbs`and still is - ICJ only ruled that everyone is entitled to declare whatever they want as a freedom of opinion...but it never ruled that secession was or would be legal - point - and if anybody from Albo camp shows me that para or passage in the judgement - then I will have to admit to that... But the reason why ICJ would never rule that on the ground of breach of human rights - because KiM Albos have done worse - they have ethnically cleansed the owners of the territory and killed - by percentages - more of them than vice versa .. - one should not forget that most of the killed from KiM side were from UCK or linked to them - one material proof, for instance,lies with those memorial plaques with thousands of names all over the stolen KiM depicting both women and men. the point is that on those stones they wear uniforms though, in reality most of them were illegal combatants, but the US just decided to please Islamic world and played along. ICJ would never be able to rule in favour of KiM separatists becuse according to basic legal theory a new entity, though formerly being opressed, should not turn into new opressors - that is why the starting point set by the UN was - standards before status. again, UCK showed their real bloody face in March, 2004 and the result was islamo-fashist wannabe state because the West could not bomb "victims" who in fact were the perpetrators - it is called political correctness. It is also clear that KiM Albos conduct is of their idol A. Hitler`s one - once they needed, as a result of their sensless overbreeding, Lebensraum, they followed the latter`s trail. As history tends to repeat itself then it is obvious that the sufferings of the Serbs will not go unpunished. And once KiM "illyrians" think there is no place for Serbs there then do not expect any courtesy towards yourself either.

Gjakova is the biggest city of a larger Albanian region Dukagjin part of which was occupied by Yugo. Gjakova in Albanian means Gjak=blood. That city was burned and killed by Serbs many times in the past the last in 1999.

The Serbian soul there is the demons soul, as in most parts of Kosova.

Italians say ‘who sows wind storm gathers’

"Serbs were not there first, nor did they rule for longest."
But they were the ones who gave Kosovo its name (Kosovo i Metohija) and built almost all its historical buildings/churches lasting through the centuries to this day. Kosovo's historical mosques were built by the Turkish/Ottoman occupiers and not Albanians - and the Turkish were those who ruled the area (and collected taxes/goods for their empire) and were not really a people of the area.
It was Serbs who really made a history of Kosovo as it was an important place of Serbian royalty and religious in the Medieval Ages when it really prospered.
The Romans also were mainly conquerors with their army and didn't really set up lasting Roman towns and villages of their own civilians in the area - just mainly places for their army/soldiers and rulers and those who served them.

ida

do not embarrass yourself with such stupidity. so now the criterion for historical is buildings of worship is it? i stand by my comment, Serbs were not there first, nor did they rule for longest. In fact, the Ottoman Turks ruled Kosovo for far longer and the Romans ruled Serbia & Kosovo for ar longer than the Serbs did. Think logically, the Serbs were the occupying peoples, they usurped the terrotory from the Romans, so if you want to solve this particular issue by virtue of history, let us give it to Italy

p.s. the name Kosovo is first found in a 16th century Turkish document. do not lecture me on history,

ICJ only ruled that everyone is entitled to declare whatever they want as a freedom of opinion...
(exKFOR, 26 December 2011 21:13)

No sir, you are totally off track… ICJ never said the above – unless of course that was in the Serbian version. Usually the Serbian version of many acts related to Kosovo (ICJ decision, Res. 1244, etc) contains much more words than the English one :)
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but it never ruled that secession was or would be legal - point - and if anybody from Albo camp shows me that para or passage in the judgement - then I will have to admit to that...
(exKFOR, 26 December 2011 21:13)

You don’t have to admit anything dear; the ICJ was never asked and, obviously, did not rule about Serbia’s secession from the Ottoman Empire or the secession of anybody from somebody. ICJ was asked whether Kosovo’s UDI was legal and ICJ said that it was legal. End of the story – that’s all Albanians wanted. If you have any other question you have doubts about, feel free to ask ICJ about it.
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But the reason why ICJ would never rule that on the ground of breach of human rights - because KiM Albos have done worse - they have ethnically cleansed and bla, bla, bla…
(exKFOR, 26 December 2011 21:13)

The reason is much simpler… nobody asked ICJ about that :)

human rights violations are exactly what Albos and their supporters have been bringing on the table as a "trump"- otherwise KiM Albanians would NOT have a slightest justification for secession from the Int Law perspective. But again, ICJ just did not take on that by knowing that "Standards before status" were not met... Indeed court ruled " it focused on the specific question received from the UN General Assembly, and did not discuss the right to self-determination or secession" or "The court found that it had the jurisdiction to answer the question forwarded to it, but not to deal with the issue of the consequences of the UDI, in particular, to determine whether such declarations resulted in a statehood" . If you are familiar with legal theory then declaration of one`s will may result in different outcomes, especially when ius scriptum or customary law leaves it for different parties discretion. Or if KiM is such a special case as the US points out, then why it cannot be for instance divided - this would NOT set ANY legal precedent either... It is also clear that the US and the West have undermined their own agenda by allowing "their" basic values - human rights - to be trampled over by nazi-like supremacy driven KiM Albanians, whose goal has always been either through silent or open ethnic cleansing to rid KiM of its legal and historical owners.
But as I already mentioned - history repats itself and like your forefathers together with muslim Turks got booted once, UCK will eventually face the same destiny.

"Gjakova is the biggest city of a larger Albanian region Dukagjin part of which was "occupied" by Yugo. Gjakova in Albanian means Gjak=blood" -

Firstly take some law classes - Yugo never occupied that place!
Secondly, now it is clear why Shqiptars use the word "blood" to mark Dakovica - they killed all the original inhabitants over there and are so proud of their savagery that named even the place after that - sth like bloodbath and misery follows to every place where "an illyrian sets his/her foot"?

icj- you really don't get it do you? The UDI was declared legal but it was a fudge and meant to be such. What they said is it is legal to declare independence. Anyone can. North Kosovo can. I can. It means nothing but you just keep banging on about it. No decision was made about declaration without negotiation and whether a part of a country can split off unilaterally. It did not declare kosovo independent, which is what you constantly imply.

So be sure that for 2 generations,you have no place in gjakove!
(lili, 26 December 2011 19:53)
In Djakovica situacion did not change from 70's, per your calculation time for 2 generations is over. Serb is welcome today!

But as I already mentioned - history repats itself and like your forefathers together with muslim Turks got booted once, UCK will eventually face the same destiny. exKFOR, 27 December 2011 11:19

I don't see how a Serb can be an exKFOR

However, we Albanians will welcome your lapse into poor judgement once again so we can teach you another yet to be learned lesson.

icj- you really don't get it do you? The UDI was declared legal but it was a fudge and meant to be such.
(Wally, 28 December 2011 11:49)

You are correct, dear, I only get the things that are written. The “fudge” stuff is not written anywhere, so, yes, I don’t get it.
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What they said is it is legal to declare independence. Anyone can. North Kosovo can. I can.
(Wally, 28 December 2011 11:49)

They did not say that, but, by all means, go ahead and declare independence three times a day if you so wish. I’m sure Albanians in Kosovo will not have any issue with you about that.
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It means nothing but you just keep banging on about it.
(Wally, 28 December 2011 11:49)

I did not bang about it dear. It’s the Serbs that think that Serbia’s UDI from the Ottoman Empire meant something. But if you disagree with that, I’m fine.
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No decision was made about declaration without negotiation and whether a part of a country can split off unilaterally. It did not declare kosovo independent, which is what you constantly imply.
(Wally, 28 December 2011 11:49)

No, I did not say that. The only thing I’m saying is that the declaration of independence of Kosovo adopted on 17 February 2008 did not violate international law. Do you have any issue with that ?