Serbia below average salary in ex-Yugoslavia

In Australia if you haven't got a job or refuse to work the gov. will pay you $1000.00 AUD a month to do nothing sit on your bum all day and watch Opera..Why anybody would want to live in Serbia is behind me.
(Respected Elder, 26 December 2011 10:48)

Do not forget to include the cost of living,
http://www.averagerent.com.au/Sydney
The cheapest suburbs in Sydney, has an avg rent of $180pw.
Average houshold Electricity $1900.00 per year or $36.50 per week.
Water $900 per year or $17.30 per week.
Avg home and internet (cheapest) per year $720 assuming you post on these forums from home. Per week $15.00.

Lets add the basics,
180+36.5+17.3+15=$248.80-weekly newstart allowance $243.40= -$5.40 What about food?

Well lets hope Opera is free, not on pay-Tv or needing a car or public transport costs to search for work as is required.

"The analysis recalls that the average salary in Slovenia back in 1990, in the time former joint country, was by 33 percent higher than the average, while Croatian salary was 12.5 percent higher than the average, wages in Serbia were some 2 percent lower than the average, "

And nowadays, in Slovenia, the average salary is above €1,000 - about 100% higher than the average in ex-YU. Looks like being an EU member country is not that bad ;)

Ah low wages... capitalism at work! Because it's not about improving lives of people, but about accumulating loads of money/capital.

Serbs can't steal from other republics anymore. That's why!

"I agree, Serbia wasted a lot of money there. But it's peanuts compared to the billions of western donor moneys wasted for the failed project creating a democratic Kosovo."

Based on what? Your claim? Here the real fact check:

EU spent so far around 10 bn for 2 Mio people in Kosovo (Serbs included) in the last 12 years. That stands against 6,2 bn Serbia spent only for 100 000 Serbs.

EU on the other hand has an annual GDP of 10 trillion (10 000bn) Euros per year, Serbia has only 60bn Euro. In fact, thanks to that disproportional amount of money which Serbia allocates to Kosovo, Serbs in Kosovo theoretically have almost twice as much as money as Serbs in Serbia.

You can do now the Math for whom those billions are really peanuts. Certainly not for Serbia. In fact, the EU spends in agricultural subsidies in only 60 days (!) more than it did in Kosovo over the period of 12 years.

serbia makes less but everything costs less do you realise this are no.
croatia you make more but everything costs alot more.
bosnia the same and macedonia and so on, so the reality is the wages are more at some places and less in other but works out to the same because of cost of living so i dont understand this news post it makes noe sence i live in canada and every city has it sown wages and prices like toronto you make more but everything is so epensive and then you live in saskatoon or winnipeg you make less but everything costs less a house in ontario just say it would cost you $700,000 and that same house in saskatoon or winnipeg would cost $ 300,000 se what i mean.

And nowadays, in Slovenia, the average salary is above €1,000 - about 100% higher than the average in ex-YU. Looks like being an EU member country is not that bad ;)
(Comm. Parrisson, 26 December 2011 12:05

Not only that. Just look over to the EU members Romania and Bulgaria. Even they have a per capita income which considerable exceeds Serbia's by far. Well, with Kosovo-je-Srbija you will be able to feed a single mouth, especially when we see how many billions(!) (not millions) have been wasted for nothing, benefiting only a tiny criminal Serbian circle which plays the nationalist card whenever they need more. Now they want referendum, translated, we want more. Pathetic, but each people receives the government which it deserves.

Still better than the fake state of kosovo eh ?
Everyone knows the salaries are low in serbia tell us something we dont know.

So don't stasi. But it's nice to see your compassion for the less fortunate. Makes me feel warm during this holiday season with people like you around.

"Well, with Kosovo-je-Srbija you will be able to feed a single mouth, especially when we see how many billions(!) (not millions) have been wasted for nothing, benefiting only a tiny criminal Serbian circle which plays the nationalist card whenever they need more. "
(Berk., 26 December 2011 15:29)

I agree, Serbia wasted a lot of money there. But it's peanuts compared to the billions of western donor moneys wasted for the failed project creating a democratic Kosovo. A big part of it going straight to the pockets of the criminal mafia clans and their supporters in the government.


Btw., I read the average per capita income in Kosovo is estimated as about €100 (officially, not including the illegal money from criminal activities of the clans). Not a surprise with all the corruption and the almost non-existing economy down there. I wonder if the numbers from Kosovo are included in this survey separately, or if it's only lowering the average of Serbia?

In Australia if you haven't got a job or refuse to work the gov. will pay you $1000.00 AUD a month to do nothing sit on your bum all day and watch Opera..Why anybody would want to live in Serbia is behind me.

so in serbia if you work 1 month you earn about 330 euro lol here i get more if i dont even work. i would never work for such a low income.

And nowadays, in Slovenia, the average salary is above €1,000 - about 100% higher than the average in ex-YU. Looks like being an EU member country is not that bad ;)
(Comm. Parrisson, 26 December 2011 12:05)

To obtain the average salary you have to obtain the sum of all salaries in a country then divide that total by the number of people earning those salaries. In that total you have salaries of millionaires as well as street cleaners and I might add that this method gives an inflated figure of anything up to 35% per cent, but governments employ it because it looks good on paper.
To get a real picture you have to remove millionaires/high earners from the calculation and only include people who are employed in industry (whatever that is) or receive social security pensions. If you follow this method you would be lucky if the average Slovene earns 350/400 Euros a month.
Also, up to recently Slovenia was the recipient of large EU money into their annual budget so successive administrations created many high paying jobs. Ask yourself the question; what does Slovenia produce that makes it such a place for high earnings? Last time I looked what little industry was established in Slovenia has or is in the process of moving out because it cannot survive in that environment as the Slovene government cannot subsidies them as in the past.
Psst, all that business about high earnings its mostly smoke and mirrors.

serbia makes less but everything costs less do you realise this are no.
croatia you make more but everything costs allot more. Tom are you saying everything is 30% or more cheaper in Serbia. If I drove across the border from Croatia into Serbia filled on gas ,bought a airline ticket ,coffee ,cars etc very hard to believe and very unlikely. Just keep telling the masses how very lucky they are that is what the dictators said in communist times in the eastern Europe.

Lenard, tourists/visitors do comment on how cheap the food is in Serbia (while the proportions are usually quite large) and at the same time remark how prices in Croatia for food and other things are high.

RESPECTED ELDER;
I wish you all the luck but dont just stay there and preach how fortunate you are. Try out some charity deed and do a big favour to help many Serbians in need for a job. In Serbia finding work is not easy. Those who work (especially in villages) are very lucky to thrive on the small income. The pay day can also be insecure about when and if the relative wage/salary is paid. Yes thats the reality so pls stop boasting about your luck. I am no Srbian but I have alot of whom I befriended, those who were a little more lucky to find jobs overseas. Left their country and their beloved families to earn money for them. BUT They are still not as much lucky like you cos they have to spend many hours working to earn a decent pay and anyway my country is nothing compared to Australia, BUT we're doing our best.Just Think of the less fortunate pls....

@Mmm Are I sure u live in Australia. I earn over $1000.00 a month on the dole. I have a 3 bedroom ministry house given to me by the state. I pay $80 a week rent and if I need dt o I can go to the salvation army and collect food vouchers and utility support for electricity and gas. Australia is the best country in the world. Where else can u sleep til midday, gamble on the horses or pokies on tax payers money and recieve free medical care. I earn a little extra by working cash in hand and nobody can do a thing about it..now thats what I call true democracy.

Still better than the fake state of kosovo eh ?
Everyone knows the salaries are low in serbia tell us something we dont know.

Serbs can't steal from other republics anymore. That's why!

In Australia if you haven't got a job or refuse to work the gov. will pay you $1000.00 AUD a month to do nothing sit on your bum all day and watch Opera..Why anybody would want to live in Serbia is behind me.

so in serbia if you work 1 month you earn about 330 euro lol here i get more if i dont even work. i would never work for such a low income.

And nowadays, in Slovenia, the average salary is above €1,000 - about 100% higher than the average in ex-YU. Looks like being an EU member country is not that bad ;)
(Comm. Parrisson, 26 December 2011 12:05

Not only that. Just look over to the EU members Romania and Bulgaria. Even they have a per capita income which considerable exceeds Serbia's by far. Well, with Kosovo-je-Srbija you will be able to feed a single mouth, especially when we see how many billions(!) (not millions) have been wasted for nothing, benefiting only a tiny criminal Serbian circle which plays the nationalist card whenever they need more. Now they want referendum, translated, we want more. Pathetic, but each people receives the government which it deserves.

"Well, with Kosovo-je-Srbija you will be able to feed a single mouth, especially when we see how many billions(!) (not millions) have been wasted for nothing, benefiting only a tiny criminal Serbian circle which plays the nationalist card whenever they need more. "
(Berk., 26 December 2011 15:29)

I agree, Serbia wasted a lot of money there. But it's peanuts compared to the billions of western donor moneys wasted for the failed project creating a democratic Kosovo. A big part of it going straight to the pockets of the criminal mafia clans and their supporters in the government.


Btw., I read the average per capita income in Kosovo is estimated as about €100 (officially, not including the illegal money from criminal activities of the clans). Not a surprise with all the corruption and the almost non-existing economy down there. I wonder if the numbers from Kosovo are included in this survey separately, or if it's only lowering the average of Serbia?

serbia makes less but everything costs less do you realise this are no.
croatia you make more but everything costs alot more.
bosnia the same and macedonia and so on, so the reality is the wages are more at some places and less in other but works out to the same because of cost of living so i dont understand this news post it makes noe sence i live in canada and every city has it sown wages and prices like toronto you make more but everything is so epensive and then you live in saskatoon or winnipeg you make less but everything costs less a house in ontario just say it would cost you $700,000 and that same house in saskatoon or winnipeg would cost $ 300,000 se what i mean.

"I agree, Serbia wasted a lot of money there. But it's peanuts compared to the billions of western donor moneys wasted for the failed project creating a democratic Kosovo."

Based on what? Your claim? Here the real fact check:

EU spent so far around 10 bn for 2 Mio people in Kosovo (Serbs included) in the last 12 years. That stands against 6,2 bn Serbia spent only for 100 000 Serbs.

EU on the other hand has an annual GDP of 10 trillion (10 000bn) Euros per year, Serbia has only 60bn Euro. In fact, thanks to that disproportional amount of money which Serbia allocates to Kosovo, Serbs in Kosovo theoretically have almost twice as much as money as Serbs in Serbia.

You can do now the Math for whom those billions are really peanuts. Certainly not for Serbia. In fact, the EU spends in agricultural subsidies in only 60 days (!) more than it did in Kosovo over the period of 12 years.

@Mmm Are I sure u live in Australia. I earn over $1000.00 a month on the dole. I have a 3 bedroom ministry house given to me by the state. I pay $80 a week rent and if I need dt o I can go to the salvation army and collect food vouchers and utility support for electricity and gas. Australia is the best country in the world. Where else can u sleep til midday, gamble on the horses or pokies on tax payers money and recieve free medical care. I earn a little extra by working cash in hand and nobody can do a thing about it..now thats what I call true democracy.

So don't stasi. But it's nice to see your compassion for the less fortunate. Makes me feel warm during this holiday season with people like you around.

serbia makes less but everything costs less do you realise this are no.
croatia you make more but everything costs allot more. Tom are you saying everything is 30% or more cheaper in Serbia. If I drove across the border from Croatia into Serbia filled on gas ,bought a airline ticket ,coffee ,cars etc very hard to believe and very unlikely. Just keep telling the masses how very lucky they are that is what the dictators said in communist times in the eastern Europe.

"The analysis recalls that the average salary in Slovenia back in 1990, in the time former joint country, was by 33 percent higher than the average, while Croatian salary was 12.5 percent higher than the average, wages in Serbia were some 2 percent lower than the average, "

And nowadays, in Slovenia, the average salary is above €1,000 - about 100% higher than the average in ex-YU. Looks like being an EU member country is not that bad ;)

In Australia if you haven't got a job or refuse to work the gov. will pay you $1000.00 AUD a month to do nothing sit on your bum all day and watch Opera..Why anybody would want to live in Serbia is behind me.
(Respected Elder, 26 December 2011 10:48)

Do not forget to include the cost of living,
http://www.averagerent.com.au/Sydney
The cheapest suburbs in Sydney, has an avg rent of $180pw.
Average houshold Electricity $1900.00 per year or $36.50 per week.
Water $900 per year or $17.30 per week.
Avg home and internet (cheapest) per year $720 assuming you post on these forums from home. Per week $15.00.

Lets add the basics,
180+36.5+17.3+15=$248.80-weekly newstart allowance $243.40= -$5.40 What about food?

Well lets hope Opera is free, not on pay-Tv or needing a car or public transport costs to search for work as is required.

Ah low wages... capitalism at work! Because it's not about improving lives of people, but about accumulating loads of money/capital.

And nowadays, in Slovenia, the average salary is above €1,000 - about 100% higher than the average in ex-YU. Looks like being an EU member country is not that bad ;)
(Comm. Parrisson, 26 December 2011 12:05)

To obtain the average salary you have to obtain the sum of all salaries in a country then divide that total by the number of people earning those salaries. In that total you have salaries of millionaires as well as street cleaners and I might add that this method gives an inflated figure of anything up to 35% per cent, but governments employ it because it looks good on paper.
To get a real picture you have to remove millionaires/high earners from the calculation and only include people who are employed in industry (whatever that is) or receive social security pensions. If you follow this method you would be lucky if the average Slovene earns 350/400 Euros a month.
Also, up to recently Slovenia was the recipient of large EU money into their annual budget so successive administrations created many high paying jobs. Ask yourself the question; what does Slovenia produce that makes it such a place for high earnings? Last time I looked what little industry was established in Slovenia has or is in the process of moving out because it cannot survive in that environment as the Slovene government cannot subsidies them as in the past.
Psst, all that business about high earnings its mostly smoke and mirrors.

Lenard, tourists/visitors do comment on how cheap the food is in Serbia (while the proportions are usually quite large) and at the same time remark how prices in Croatia for food and other things are high.

RESPECTED ELDER;
I wish you all the luck but dont just stay there and preach how fortunate you are. Try out some charity deed and do a big favour to help many Serbians in need for a job. In Serbia finding work is not easy. Those who work (especially in villages) are very lucky to thrive on the small income. The pay day can also be insecure about when and if the relative wage/salary is paid. Yes thats the reality so pls stop boasting about your luck. I am no Srbian but I have alot of whom I befriended, those who were a little more lucky to find jobs overseas. Left their country and their beloved families to earn money for them. BUT They are still not as much lucky like you cos they have to spend many hours working to earn a decent pay and anyway my country is nothing compared to Australia, BUT we're doing our best.Just Think of the less fortunate pls....