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Monday, 26.12.2011.

09:15

Serbs from north announce referendum

Kosovska Mitrovica Mayor Krstimir Pantić stated on Sunday that a referendum should be held in northern Kosovo on February 15, which is also Statehood Day.

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sj

pre 12 godina

Hmmmmm. I'm not Albanian. Also why would you refer to me as stupid for raising questions? Also there is no need to insult me by implying that I'm "stupid". I'm actually surprised B92 posted your comment as their comment policy states: "Comments which include insults, indecencies, racial or ethnic hate messages and intolerance of any kind will not be published". Your comment includes an insult and arguably a racial/ethnic hate message.
(Ian, UK, 27 December 2011 13:57)

Actually your statements are exceptionally stupid to say the least. I have found that the vast majority of Albanians quite limited in their knowledge of the subjects they wish to defend and in fact some are outright liars of the first order.
If you find this forum less to your liking then I strongly suggest that you move over to the BBC where they will appreciate your love of the Albanians and the west in general.
Bon Voyage!

Yes we are seeing that Russian influence. The fact that they were held at the border for 3 days. The numerous resolutions and votes the Russians have mastered at the UNSC this month while they held the Presidency. The fact that Kfor and Eulex has withdrawn from the north completely. The fact that they rushed through parliament an exception to their constitution to grant special citizenship to the north Serbs.
Yeah it is all evident.
whether they be Serbs, Albanians, I don't think you will find any of them dumb enough to buy what you are selling.
(not buying it, 27 December 2011 06:42)

Now Ian, UK here is a beautiful example of my complaint.
This individual thinks that the Russians were held at the administrative line for 3 days by the UE/US/KFOR/NATO because they are not a power.
Little does he know that the Russians wanted to pick a fight with the EU. Knowing that the EU has caught the US illness of thinking they are great, they stopped the transport group for 15 minutes, but were told to let them go immediately, but here is where they fell into the Russians trap and they made a big song and dance about it for 3 days. Oh buy the way they never opened one truck to check what was inside it.
The UNSC has 3 voting for the Albanians and 2 against so it’s a foregone conclusion - stalemate. But let me tell you this much they don’t just put up resolutions because they are bored – it’s all to do with strategy mate. I’m not a university lecturer to teach you strategy. Oh the US does it too.
It’s your Angela Merkel that wants to let your rabble lose with free movement through Serbia to look for work. But I could not believe what has happened this so called arrangement only puts even more chain s on your Albos.

For a man who talks about free Serbia and nation it seems you are asking for a pupet government??? This sounds STUPID dont you think. I guess if Russia putts a goverment in Serbia is OK but if they are accepted by West its interference. Please think what you are writing and best thing for K-Albanins is for Serbia to get Radicals in Power I hope they come sonner the better. lets put a wall and turn it East and west berlin and see again who comes in better shape.
(Engineer, 27 December 2011 00:24)

My dear fellow the current government is a western imposed body and they have had their turn, so It’s the Russians time. Now you have Thaci, a western imposed stooge, and what has he brought to Kosovo to improve the living standards? NOTHING so what’s your point?
The Radicals will not come to power, its not their time, it will be Nikolic together with a few other parties that will take over, but this time your lot will feel the breeze of change very soon there after. Look at Croatia; pay very close attention and see what is happening there – its not an accident.
When are you people going to get it? We are in the 21 century and the empires are falling and new ones are rising. This is not the 1950/60s. The west is BROKE. Hey China, a communist state, has purchased EU bonds, the Russians have purchased EU bonds to stave off economic collapse of the EU.

Peggy

pre 12 godina

I'm actually surprised B92 posted your comment as their comment policy states: "Comments which include insults, indecencies, racial or ethnic hate messages and intolerance of any kind will not be published". Your comment includes an insult and arguably a racial/ethnic hate message.
(Ian, UK, 27 Dec
==ember 2011 13:57)
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Ever read Roberto's posts?

Either you haven't read them or you don't see any harm in insulting Serbs and spewing rubbish without evidence in order to maximize affect of jabs.

The reason we say you are Albanian is because clearly you are, by blood somewhere down the line at least.
You say things like "we" when you refer to Albanians as well. Haven't you noticed?

icj1

pre 12 godina

BTW Declaration of Kosovo independence wasn't illegal, while recognitions of UDI by 80+ countries were against 1244.
(aaayyy, 26 December 2011 20:57)

Hmmm, let me see if I understood this correctly. We have an act which is in accordance with 1244, but recognizing that act is a violation of 1244 ! Something does not sound right :)
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So Serbia should have sued those countries, not UDI itself, which, as one of the posters has pointed out could be done by anybody - each of us could declare UDI any day of the week.
(aaayyy, 26 December 2011 20:57)

Sure, go ahead. I’m sure no Albanian would object to you declaring independence three times a day if that makes you happy :)

Simpatiku

pre 12 godina

Perfect! Once upon a time there was a territory called "Republika Srpska Krajina". Serbs held a referendum over there too. When a first tractor reached Belgrade they found out they have been ridden.

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

SteveB asked how many dumb Albanians are on this site. Well here is one.
Belgrade has no influence nor does it dare to try and go against the Serbs in Kosovo. How many times do you people have to be told that the RUSSIANS will not allow interference? Has it not dawned on you people that the Serbs are protected outside Belgrade????????? If it was left to that snake Tadic NATO would now be in total control of Northern Kosovo.
In February or March 2012 ther will be elections in Serbia and Moscow will put in place a government froiendly to them – the watch how things change.
(sj, 26 December 2011 22:59)

Hmmmmm. I'm not Albanian. Also why would you refer to me as stupid for raising questions? Also there is no need to insult me by implying that I'm "stupid". I'm actually surprised B92 posted your comment as their comment policy states: "Comments which include insults, indecencies, racial or ethnic hate messages and intolerance of any kind will not be published". Your comment includes an insult and arguably a racial/ethnic hate message.

adamnyc

pre 12 godina

these are the same people who toss bombs and attack polling stations... these thugs have already decided "on behalf" of kosovo serbs long ago.

not buying it

pre 12 godina

SteveB asked how many dumb Albanians are on this site. Well here is one.
Belgrade has no influence nor does it dare to try and go against the Serbs in Kosovo. How many times do you people have to be told that the RUSSIANS will not allow interference? Has it not dawned on you people that the Serbs are protected outside Belgrade????????? If it was left to that snake Tadic NATO would now be in total control of Northern Kosovo.
In February or March 2012 ther will be elections in Serbia and Moscow will put in place a government froiendly to them – the watch how things change.
(sj, 26 December 2011 22:59
Yes we are seeing that Russian influence. The fact that they were held at the border for 3 days. The numerous resolutions and votes the Russians have mastered at the UNSC this month while they held the Presidency. The fact that Kfor and Eulex has withdrawn from the north completely. The fact that they rushed through parliament an exception to their constitution to grant special citizenship to the north Serbs.
Yeah it is all evident.
whether they be Serbs, Albanians, I don't think you will find any of them dumb enough to buy what you are selling.

Free Kosovska Mitrovica

pre 12 godina

February 15? Statehood day? Leave this stupid symbolism behind, the referendum must be held as soon as possible, before the albanians have a chance to consolidate any of these pseudo "agreements".

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

I don't know who the fool is here. Kosova is populated over 90% Albanians, so what now?
(ardi asllani, 26 December 2011 20:41)

And northern Kosovo is populated by over 95% Serbs. You do the math and figure out the self-determination :)

Engineer

pre 12 godina

You are biggots and muslim. Its in your blood.
(MikeC, 26 December 2011 21:31)

So Muslims are Biggots?? dont you think that is hate for someone who is preaching tolerance. You know for example that many Serbs are Muslim does that mean their blood is different than Serbians who are orthodox how can you think like that Mike I have thought of you as more progressive person especially living in Sweeden,

I think this is quit sad since for example you have Albanins who are Orthodox, Muslim or Catholic and they al have similar blood and in few cases it happened in same family so I would say Religion has nothing to do with persons behaviouer as all religions have preached hate and do today.

Srecan Bozic and Sretna nova Godina from a tolerant Albanin

Engineer

pre 12 godina

But does Belgrade find this acceptable? Will Belgrade consider this referendum legitimate?
(Ian, UK, 26 December 2011 12:02)

SteveB asked how many dumb Albanians are on this site. Well here is one.
Belgrade has no influence nor does it dare to try and go against the Serbs in Kosovo. How many times do you people have to be told that the RUSSIANS will not allow interference? Has it not dawned on you people that the Serbs are protected outside Belgrade????????? If it was left to that snake Tadic NATO would now be in total control of Northern Kosovo.
In February or March 2012 ther will be elections in Serbia and Moscow will put in place a government froiendly to them – the watch how things change.
(sj, 26 December 2011 22:59)

For a man who talks about free Serbia and nation it seems you are asking for a pupet government??? This sounds STUPID dont you think. I guess if Russia putts a goverment in Serbia is OK but if they are accepted by West its interference. Please think what you are writing and best thing for K-Albanins is for Serbia to get Radicals in Power I hope they come sonner the better. lets put a wall and turn it East and west berlin and see again who comes in better shape.

sj

pre 12 godina

But does Belgrade find this acceptable? Will Belgrade consider this referendum legitimate?
(Ian, UK, 26 December 2011 12:02)

SteveB asked how many dumb Albanians are on this site. Well here is one.
Belgrade has no influence nor does it dare to try and go against the Serbs in Kosovo. How many times do you people have to be told that the RUSSIANS will not allow interference? Has it not dawned on you people that the Serbs are protected outside Belgrade????????? If it was left to that snake Tadic NATO would now be in total control of Northern Kosovo.
In February or March 2012 ther will be elections in Serbia and Moscow will put in place a government froiendly to them – the watch how things change.

MikeC

pre 12 godina

delon


Minorities in Serbia have all the rights that they can wish for. Serbs in Kosovo, however, have only two rights: to die or to run.
Why don't you look at the rights serbs have in Albania? Or the greeks in south Albania? Give them rights before you demand others to give something they already enjoy in Serbia. Just have a look at Kosovo where churches and minorities are protected 24 hours a day. Do we have NATO protecting albanians in Presevo? Or hungerians in Vojvodina? Albanians are not capable of living with others. You are biggots and muslim. Its in your blood.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

BTW Declaration of Kosovo independence wasn't illegal, while recognitions of UDI by 80+ countries were against 1244. So Serbia should have sued those countries, not UDI itself, which, as one of the posters has pointed out could be done by anybody - each of us could declare UDI any day of the week.

ardi asllani

pre 12 godina

How many dumb Albanians are on this site? When will they listen?

Raska/Sandzak (in Serbia) is majority Serbs!
Vojvodina is majority Serbs!

Why do you think they will seperate? Fools.
(Steve B., 26 December 2011 19:10)

I don't know who the fool is here. Kosova is populated over 90% Albanians, so what now?

Steve B.

pre 12 godina

How many dumb Albanians are on this site? When will they listen?

Raska/Sandzak (in Serbia) is majority Serbs!
Vojvodina is majority Serbs!

Why do you think they will seperate? Fools.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

Are Srb supporters of this referendum ready to support the right for the same thing for other minorities in Srbja.
To name few ,Albanians in Presheva Valley,Bosnians in Sanxhak,Hungarians in Vojvodina,Rommanians...ecrt,all 28+ minorities that live in Srbja?!
Why in the world Srbs fill that they deserve more rights than the other people?!
(delon, 26 December 2011 16:08)

In questionable cases international law and practice supports status quo.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

To name few ,Albanians in Presheva Valley,Bosnians in Sanxhak,Hungarians in Vojvodina,Rommanians...ecrt,all 28+ minorities that live in Srbja?!
Why in the world Srbs fill that they deserve more rights than the other people?!
(delon, 26 December 2011 16:08)

LOL yeah but none of them are doing it. None of them are even organizing something like that. I'd be more worried about the Gorani of Dragas following suit :)

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

I couldn't believe my eyes when I read that people who consider themselves democrats are against expression of people's will - referendum.
(aaayyy, 26 December 2011 16:08)

Who is against an "expression of people's will"? I'm just saying, will Belgrade consider this referendum to be legitimate and legal.
(Ian, UK, 26 December 2011 16:39)

Why not?

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

Are Srb supporters of this referendum ready to support the right for the same thing for other minorities in Srbja.
To name few ,Albanians in Presheva Valley,Bosnians in Sanxhak,Hungarians in Vojvodina,Rommanians...ecrt,all 28+ minorities that live in Srbja?!
Why in the world Srbs fill that they deserve more rights than the other people?!
(delon, 26 December 2011 16:08)

There are very many countries all over the world with ethnic minorities, some minorities might want to separate from their original countries. But if there is no proof that newly created countries won't cause even more ethnic, economic, etc. problems, status quo is supported by international law/practice.

Don't forget that Kosovo is disputed territory, not a state.

Dragan

pre 12 godina

I dare Tadic and his yellow traitors to try to get this democratic referendum cancelled, I dare them. I know they would love to cancel it, and would love to see them try because that would even further expose their true treasonous face.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

But does Belgrade find this acceptable? Will Belgrade consider this referendum legitimate?
(Ian, UK, 26 December 2011 12:02)

I couldn't believe my eyes when I read that people who consider themselves democrats are against expression of people's will - referendum.

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

(Montenegrin, 26 December 2011 16:16)

You know your just a Albanian from Montenegro if you are even from that country at all. Correction, you might be a 'Montenegrin' but you'll never be a Crnogorac.

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

I couldn't believe my eyes when I read that people who consider themselves democrats are against expression of people's will - referendum.
(aaayyy, 26 December 2011 16:08)

Who is against an "expression of people's will"? I'm just saying, will Belgrade consider this referendum to be legitimate and legal.

Montenegrin

pre 12 godina

So by holding this referendum they are accepting that Kosovo is an independent country. If Kosovo was part of Serbia then there would not be any need for referendum. Its very interesting to see these serb local politicians doing these absolutely out of reality actions.

delon

pre 12 godina

Are Srb supporters of this referendum ready to support the right for the same thing for other minorities in Srbja.
To name few ,Albanians in Presheva Valley,Bosnians in Sanxhak,Hungarians in Vojvodina,Rommanians...ecrt,all 28+ minorities that live in Srbja?!
Why in the world Srbs fill that they deserve more rights than the other people?!

BT

pre 12 godina

Serbs in north are brainwashed. A lot of serbs have said to the Albanian media that they are being threatened, lose their job, cut the food supply etc, if they don't listen to the thugs. So serbs are going to be forced to lie weather prishtina or belgrad in this referendum. They know in their head " prishtina " but they have to vote for Belgrad.

Avni

pre 12 godina

When Serbs in Croatia and Bosnia wanted to join Serbia they de-facto helped Kosovo more than they thought. With this referendum Serbs are helping Albanians of Presheva Valley and Bosniaks of Sandzak. So, don't cry wolf when things don't work out for Serbs.

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

Perfect. The Albanians will look at North Kosovo as their very own northern Cyprus, meanwhile Serbia will look at Kosovo below the Ibar as their very own northern Cyprus.

Keeping the door slightly open for further violence and bloodshed. Because of greed, selfishness and aggressive violent nationalism the opportunity for a permanent peace is not possible until one side wins everything and locks the line of separation with a electrical fence.

Which ever side does this, will win all of Kosovo and establish permanent establishment there.

rolandi

pre 12 godina

referendum from who i'thought kosovo is part of serbia why serbs whant to to doo thet what happen to those old words kosovo is heart of serbia no more heart new mitrovica is heart of serbia thet cool all the old churches and manastiris i'gess they goin to belong in kosovo in the and win win loose loose for serbia

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

Perfect. The Albanians will look at North Kosovo as their very own northern Cyprus, meanwhile Serbia will look at Kosovo below the Ibar as their very own northern Cyprus.

Keeping the door slightly open for further violence and bloodshed. Because of greed, selfishness and aggressive violent nationalism the opportunity for a permanent peace is not possible until one side wins everything and locks the line of separation with a electrical fence.

Which ever side does this, will win all of Kosovo and establish permanent establishment there.

Dragan

pre 12 godina

I dare Tadic and his yellow traitors to try to get this democratic referendum cancelled, I dare them. I know they would love to cancel it, and would love to see them try because that would even further expose their true treasonous face.

Avni

pre 12 godina

When Serbs in Croatia and Bosnia wanted to join Serbia they de-facto helped Kosovo more than they thought. With this referendum Serbs are helping Albanians of Presheva Valley and Bosniaks of Sandzak. So, don't cry wolf when things don't work out for Serbs.

delon

pre 12 godina

Are Srb supporters of this referendum ready to support the right for the same thing for other minorities in Srbja.
To name few ,Albanians in Presheva Valley,Bosnians in Sanxhak,Hungarians in Vojvodina,Rommanians...ecrt,all 28+ minorities that live in Srbja?!
Why in the world Srbs fill that they deserve more rights than the other people?!

rolandi

pre 12 godina

referendum from who i'thought kosovo is part of serbia why serbs whant to to doo thet what happen to those old words kosovo is heart of serbia no more heart new mitrovica is heart of serbia thet cool all the old churches and manastiris i'gess they goin to belong in kosovo in the and win win loose loose for serbia

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

(Montenegrin, 26 December 2011 16:16)

You know your just a Albanian from Montenegro if you are even from that country at all. Correction, you might be a 'Montenegrin' but you'll never be a Crnogorac.

Montenegrin

pre 12 godina

So by holding this referendum they are accepting that Kosovo is an independent country. If Kosovo was part of Serbia then there would not be any need for referendum. Its very interesting to see these serb local politicians doing these absolutely out of reality actions.

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

I couldn't believe my eyes when I read that people who consider themselves democrats are against expression of people's will - referendum.
(aaayyy, 26 December 2011 16:08)

Who is against an "expression of people's will"? I'm just saying, will Belgrade consider this referendum to be legitimate and legal.

sj

pre 12 godina

But does Belgrade find this acceptable? Will Belgrade consider this referendum legitimate?
(Ian, UK, 26 December 2011 12:02)

SteveB asked how many dumb Albanians are on this site. Well here is one.
Belgrade has no influence nor does it dare to try and go against the Serbs in Kosovo. How many times do you people have to be told that the RUSSIANS will not allow interference? Has it not dawned on you people that the Serbs are protected outside Belgrade????????? If it was left to that snake Tadic NATO would now be in total control of Northern Kosovo.
In February or March 2012 ther will be elections in Serbia and Moscow will put in place a government froiendly to them – the watch how things change.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

Are Srb supporters of this referendum ready to support the right for the same thing for other minorities in Srbja.
To name few ,Albanians in Presheva Valley,Bosnians in Sanxhak,Hungarians in Vojvodina,Rommanians...ecrt,all 28+ minorities that live in Srbja?!
Why in the world Srbs fill that they deserve more rights than the other people?!
(delon, 26 December 2011 16:08)

There are very many countries all over the world with ethnic minorities, some minorities might want to separate from their original countries. But if there is no proof that newly created countries won't cause even more ethnic, economic, etc. problems, status quo is supported by international law/practice.

Don't forget that Kosovo is disputed territory, not a state.

BT

pre 12 godina

Serbs in north are brainwashed. A lot of serbs have said to the Albanian media that they are being threatened, lose their job, cut the food supply etc, if they don't listen to the thugs. So serbs are going to be forced to lie weather prishtina or belgrad in this referendum. They know in their head " prishtina " but they have to vote for Belgrad.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

But does Belgrade find this acceptable? Will Belgrade consider this referendum legitimate?
(Ian, UK, 26 December 2011 12:02)

I couldn't believe my eyes when I read that people who consider themselves democrats are against expression of people's will - referendum.

Steve B.

pre 12 godina

How many dumb Albanians are on this site? When will they listen?

Raska/Sandzak (in Serbia) is majority Serbs!
Vojvodina is majority Serbs!

Why do you think they will seperate? Fools.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

To name few ,Albanians in Presheva Valley,Bosnians in Sanxhak,Hungarians in Vojvodina,Rommanians...ecrt,all 28+ minorities that live in Srbja?!
Why in the world Srbs fill that they deserve more rights than the other people?!
(delon, 26 December 2011 16:08)

LOL yeah but none of them are doing it. None of them are even organizing something like that. I'd be more worried about the Gorani of Dragas following suit :)

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

BTW Declaration of Kosovo independence wasn't illegal, while recognitions of UDI by 80+ countries were against 1244. So Serbia should have sued those countries, not UDI itself, which, as one of the posters has pointed out could be done by anybody - each of us could declare UDI any day of the week.

MikeC

pre 12 godina

delon


Minorities in Serbia have all the rights that they can wish for. Serbs in Kosovo, however, have only two rights: to die or to run.
Why don't you look at the rights serbs have in Albania? Or the greeks in south Albania? Give them rights before you demand others to give something they already enjoy in Serbia. Just have a look at Kosovo where churches and minorities are protected 24 hours a day. Do we have NATO protecting albanians in Presevo? Or hungerians in Vojvodina? Albanians are not capable of living with others. You are biggots and muslim. Its in your blood.

ardi asllani

pre 12 godina

How many dumb Albanians are on this site? When will they listen?

Raska/Sandzak (in Serbia) is majority Serbs!
Vojvodina is majority Serbs!

Why do you think they will seperate? Fools.
(Steve B., 26 December 2011 19:10)

I don't know who the fool is here. Kosova is populated over 90% Albanians, so what now?

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

I couldn't believe my eyes when I read that people who consider themselves democrats are against expression of people's will - referendum.
(aaayyy, 26 December 2011 16:08)

Who is against an "expression of people's will"? I'm just saying, will Belgrade consider this referendum to be legitimate and legal.
(Ian, UK, 26 December 2011 16:39)

Why not?

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

Are Srb supporters of this referendum ready to support the right for the same thing for other minorities in Srbja.
To name few ,Albanians in Presheva Valley,Bosnians in Sanxhak,Hungarians in Vojvodina,Rommanians...ecrt,all 28+ minorities that live in Srbja?!
Why in the world Srbs fill that they deserve more rights than the other people?!
(delon, 26 December 2011 16:08)

In questionable cases international law and practice supports status quo.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

I don't know who the fool is here. Kosova is populated over 90% Albanians, so what now?
(ardi asllani, 26 December 2011 20:41)

And northern Kosovo is populated by over 95% Serbs. You do the math and figure out the self-determination :)

Free Kosovska Mitrovica

pre 12 godina

February 15? Statehood day? Leave this stupid symbolism behind, the referendum must be held as soon as possible, before the albanians have a chance to consolidate any of these pseudo "agreements".

Engineer

pre 12 godina

You are biggots and muslim. Its in your blood.
(MikeC, 26 December 2011 21:31)

So Muslims are Biggots?? dont you think that is hate for someone who is preaching tolerance. You know for example that many Serbs are Muslim does that mean their blood is different than Serbians who are orthodox how can you think like that Mike I have thought of you as more progressive person especially living in Sweeden,

I think this is quit sad since for example you have Albanins who are Orthodox, Muslim or Catholic and they al have similar blood and in few cases it happened in same family so I would say Religion has nothing to do with persons behaviouer as all religions have preached hate and do today.

Srecan Bozic and Sretna nova Godina from a tolerant Albanin

not buying it

pre 12 godina

SteveB asked how many dumb Albanians are on this site. Well here is one.
Belgrade has no influence nor does it dare to try and go against the Serbs in Kosovo. How many times do you people have to be told that the RUSSIANS will not allow interference? Has it not dawned on you people that the Serbs are protected outside Belgrade????????? If it was left to that snake Tadic NATO would now be in total control of Northern Kosovo.
In February or March 2012 ther will be elections in Serbia and Moscow will put in place a government froiendly to them – the watch how things change.
(sj, 26 December 2011 22:59
Yes we are seeing that Russian influence. The fact that they were held at the border for 3 days. The numerous resolutions and votes the Russians have mastered at the UNSC this month while they held the Presidency. The fact that Kfor and Eulex has withdrawn from the north completely. The fact that they rushed through parliament an exception to their constitution to grant special citizenship to the north Serbs.
Yeah it is all evident.
whether they be Serbs, Albanians, I don't think you will find any of them dumb enough to buy what you are selling.

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

SteveB asked how many dumb Albanians are on this site. Well here is one.
Belgrade has no influence nor does it dare to try and go against the Serbs in Kosovo. How many times do you people have to be told that the RUSSIANS will not allow interference? Has it not dawned on you people that the Serbs are protected outside Belgrade????????? If it was left to that snake Tadic NATO would now be in total control of Northern Kosovo.
In February or March 2012 ther will be elections in Serbia and Moscow will put in place a government froiendly to them – the watch how things change.
(sj, 26 December 2011 22:59)

Hmmmmm. I'm not Albanian. Also why would you refer to me as stupid for raising questions? Also there is no need to insult me by implying that I'm "stupid". I'm actually surprised B92 posted your comment as their comment policy states: "Comments which include insults, indecencies, racial or ethnic hate messages and intolerance of any kind will not be published". Your comment includes an insult and arguably a racial/ethnic hate message.

Peggy

pre 12 godina

I'm actually surprised B92 posted your comment as their comment policy states: "Comments which include insults, indecencies, racial or ethnic hate messages and intolerance of any kind will not be published". Your comment includes an insult and arguably a racial/ethnic hate message.
(Ian, UK, 27 Dec
==ember 2011 13:57)
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Ever read Roberto's posts?

Either you haven't read them or you don't see any harm in insulting Serbs and spewing rubbish without evidence in order to maximize affect of jabs.

The reason we say you are Albanian is because clearly you are, by blood somewhere down the line at least.
You say things like "we" when you refer to Albanians as well. Haven't you noticed?

icj1

pre 12 godina

BTW Declaration of Kosovo independence wasn't illegal, while recognitions of UDI by 80+ countries were against 1244.
(aaayyy, 26 December 2011 20:57)

Hmmm, let me see if I understood this correctly. We have an act which is in accordance with 1244, but recognizing that act is a violation of 1244 ! Something does not sound right :)
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So Serbia should have sued those countries, not UDI itself, which, as one of the posters has pointed out could be done by anybody - each of us could declare UDI any day of the week.
(aaayyy, 26 December 2011 20:57)

Sure, go ahead. I’m sure no Albanian would object to you declaring independence three times a day if that makes you happy :)

sj

pre 12 godina

Hmmmmm. I'm not Albanian. Also why would you refer to me as stupid for raising questions? Also there is no need to insult me by implying that I'm "stupid". I'm actually surprised B92 posted your comment as their comment policy states: "Comments which include insults, indecencies, racial or ethnic hate messages and intolerance of any kind will not be published". Your comment includes an insult and arguably a racial/ethnic hate message.
(Ian, UK, 27 December 2011 13:57)

Actually your statements are exceptionally stupid to say the least. I have found that the vast majority of Albanians quite limited in their knowledge of the subjects they wish to defend and in fact some are outright liars of the first order.
If you find this forum less to your liking then I strongly suggest that you move over to the BBC where they will appreciate your love of the Albanians and the west in general.
Bon Voyage!

Yes we are seeing that Russian influence. The fact that they were held at the border for 3 days. The numerous resolutions and votes the Russians have mastered at the UNSC this month while they held the Presidency. The fact that Kfor and Eulex has withdrawn from the north completely. The fact that they rushed through parliament an exception to their constitution to grant special citizenship to the north Serbs.
Yeah it is all evident.
whether they be Serbs, Albanians, I don't think you will find any of them dumb enough to buy what you are selling.
(not buying it, 27 December 2011 06:42)

Now Ian, UK here is a beautiful example of my complaint.
This individual thinks that the Russians were held at the administrative line for 3 days by the UE/US/KFOR/NATO because they are not a power.
Little does he know that the Russians wanted to pick a fight with the EU. Knowing that the EU has caught the US illness of thinking they are great, they stopped the transport group for 15 minutes, but were told to let them go immediately, but here is where they fell into the Russians trap and they made a big song and dance about it for 3 days. Oh buy the way they never opened one truck to check what was inside it.
The UNSC has 3 voting for the Albanians and 2 against so it’s a foregone conclusion - stalemate. But let me tell you this much they don’t just put up resolutions because they are bored – it’s all to do with strategy mate. I’m not a university lecturer to teach you strategy. Oh the US does it too.
It’s your Angela Merkel that wants to let your rabble lose with free movement through Serbia to look for work. But I could not believe what has happened this so called arrangement only puts even more chain s on your Albos.

For a man who talks about free Serbia and nation it seems you are asking for a pupet government??? This sounds STUPID dont you think. I guess if Russia putts a goverment in Serbia is OK but if they are accepted by West its interference. Please think what you are writing and best thing for K-Albanins is for Serbia to get Radicals in Power I hope they come sonner the better. lets put a wall and turn it East and west berlin and see again who comes in better shape.
(Engineer, 27 December 2011 00:24)

My dear fellow the current government is a western imposed body and they have had their turn, so It’s the Russians time. Now you have Thaci, a western imposed stooge, and what has he brought to Kosovo to improve the living standards? NOTHING so what’s your point?
The Radicals will not come to power, its not their time, it will be Nikolic together with a few other parties that will take over, but this time your lot will feel the breeze of change very soon there after. Look at Croatia; pay very close attention and see what is happening there – its not an accident.
When are you people going to get it? We are in the 21 century and the empires are falling and new ones are rising. This is not the 1950/60s. The west is BROKE. Hey China, a communist state, has purchased EU bonds, the Russians have purchased EU bonds to stave off economic collapse of the EU.

Engineer

pre 12 godina

But does Belgrade find this acceptable? Will Belgrade consider this referendum legitimate?
(Ian, UK, 26 December 2011 12:02)

SteveB asked how many dumb Albanians are on this site. Well here is one.
Belgrade has no influence nor does it dare to try and go against the Serbs in Kosovo. How many times do you people have to be told that the RUSSIANS will not allow interference? Has it not dawned on you people that the Serbs are protected outside Belgrade????????? If it was left to that snake Tadic NATO would now be in total control of Northern Kosovo.
In February or March 2012 ther will be elections in Serbia and Moscow will put in place a government froiendly to them – the watch how things change.
(sj, 26 December 2011 22:59)

For a man who talks about free Serbia and nation it seems you are asking for a pupet government??? This sounds STUPID dont you think. I guess if Russia putts a goverment in Serbia is OK but if they are accepted by West its interference. Please think what you are writing and best thing for K-Albanins is for Serbia to get Radicals in Power I hope they come sonner the better. lets put a wall and turn it East and west berlin and see again who comes in better shape.

adamnyc

pre 12 godina

these are the same people who toss bombs and attack polling stations... these thugs have already decided "on behalf" of kosovo serbs long ago.

Simpatiku

pre 12 godina

Perfect! Once upon a time there was a territory called "Republika Srpska Krajina". Serbs held a referendum over there too. When a first tractor reached Belgrade they found out they have been ridden.

rolandi

pre 12 godina

referendum from who i'thought kosovo is part of serbia why serbs whant to to doo thet what happen to those old words kosovo is heart of serbia no more heart new mitrovica is heart of serbia thet cool all the old churches and manastiris i'gess they goin to belong in kosovo in the and win win loose loose for serbia

BT

pre 12 godina

Serbs in north are brainwashed. A lot of serbs have said to the Albanian media that they are being threatened, lose their job, cut the food supply etc, if they don't listen to the thugs. So serbs are going to be forced to lie weather prishtina or belgrad in this referendum. They know in their head " prishtina " but they have to vote for Belgrad.

delon

pre 12 godina

Are Srb supporters of this referendum ready to support the right for the same thing for other minorities in Srbja.
To name few ,Albanians in Presheva Valley,Bosnians in Sanxhak,Hungarians in Vojvodina,Rommanians...ecrt,all 28+ minorities that live in Srbja?!
Why in the world Srbs fill that they deserve more rights than the other people?!

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

Perfect. The Albanians will look at North Kosovo as their very own northern Cyprus, meanwhile Serbia will look at Kosovo below the Ibar as their very own northern Cyprus.

Keeping the door slightly open for further violence and bloodshed. Because of greed, selfishness and aggressive violent nationalism the opportunity for a permanent peace is not possible until one side wins everything and locks the line of separation with a electrical fence.

Which ever side does this, will win all of Kosovo and establish permanent establishment there.

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

(Montenegrin, 26 December 2011 16:16)

You know your just a Albanian from Montenegro if you are even from that country at all. Correction, you might be a 'Montenegrin' but you'll never be a Crnogorac.

Montenegrin

pre 12 godina

So by holding this referendum they are accepting that Kosovo is an independent country. If Kosovo was part of Serbia then there would not be any need for referendum. Its very interesting to see these serb local politicians doing these absolutely out of reality actions.

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

I couldn't believe my eyes when I read that people who consider themselves democrats are against expression of people's will - referendum.
(aaayyy, 26 December 2011 16:08)

Who is against an "expression of people's will"? I'm just saying, will Belgrade consider this referendum to be legitimate and legal.

Avni

pre 12 godina

When Serbs in Croatia and Bosnia wanted to join Serbia they de-facto helped Kosovo more than they thought. With this referendum Serbs are helping Albanians of Presheva Valley and Bosniaks of Sandzak. So, don't cry wolf when things don't work out for Serbs.

Steve B.

pre 12 godina

How many dumb Albanians are on this site? When will they listen?

Raska/Sandzak (in Serbia) is majority Serbs!
Vojvodina is majority Serbs!

Why do you think they will seperate? Fools.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

But does Belgrade find this acceptable? Will Belgrade consider this referendum legitimate?
(Ian, UK, 26 December 2011 12:02)

I couldn't believe my eyes when I read that people who consider themselves democrats are against expression of people's will - referendum.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

Are Srb supporters of this referendum ready to support the right for the same thing for other minorities in Srbja.
To name few ,Albanians in Presheva Valley,Bosnians in Sanxhak,Hungarians in Vojvodina,Rommanians...ecrt,all 28+ minorities that live in Srbja?!
Why in the world Srbs fill that they deserve more rights than the other people?!
(delon, 26 December 2011 16:08)

There are very many countries all over the world with ethnic minorities, some minorities might want to separate from their original countries. But if there is no proof that newly created countries won't cause even more ethnic, economic, etc. problems, status quo is supported by international law/practice.

Don't forget that Kosovo is disputed territory, not a state.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

To name few ,Albanians in Presheva Valley,Bosnians in Sanxhak,Hungarians in Vojvodina,Rommanians...ecrt,all 28+ minorities that live in Srbja?!
Why in the world Srbs fill that they deserve more rights than the other people?!
(delon, 26 December 2011 16:08)

LOL yeah but none of them are doing it. None of them are even organizing something like that. I'd be more worried about the Gorani of Dragas following suit :)

ardi asllani

pre 12 godina

How many dumb Albanians are on this site? When will they listen?

Raska/Sandzak (in Serbia) is majority Serbs!
Vojvodina is majority Serbs!

Why do you think they will seperate? Fools.
(Steve B., 26 December 2011 19:10)

I don't know who the fool is here. Kosova is populated over 90% Albanians, so what now?

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

Are Srb supporters of this referendum ready to support the right for the same thing for other minorities in Srbja.
To name few ,Albanians in Presheva Valley,Bosnians in Sanxhak,Hungarians in Vojvodina,Rommanians...ecrt,all 28+ minorities that live in Srbja?!
Why in the world Srbs fill that they deserve more rights than the other people?!
(delon, 26 December 2011 16:08)

In questionable cases international law and practice supports status quo.

Dragan

pre 12 godina

I dare Tadic and his yellow traitors to try to get this democratic referendum cancelled, I dare them. I know they would love to cancel it, and would love to see them try because that would even further expose their true treasonous face.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

I couldn't believe my eyes when I read that people who consider themselves democrats are against expression of people's will - referendum.
(aaayyy, 26 December 2011 16:08)

Who is against an "expression of people's will"? I'm just saying, will Belgrade consider this referendum to be legitimate and legal.
(Ian, UK, 26 December 2011 16:39)

Why not?

sj

pre 12 godina

But does Belgrade find this acceptable? Will Belgrade consider this referendum legitimate?
(Ian, UK, 26 December 2011 12:02)

SteveB asked how many dumb Albanians are on this site. Well here is one.
Belgrade has no influence nor does it dare to try and go against the Serbs in Kosovo. How many times do you people have to be told that the RUSSIANS will not allow interference? Has it not dawned on you people that the Serbs are protected outside Belgrade????????? If it was left to that snake Tadic NATO would now be in total control of Northern Kosovo.
In February or March 2012 ther will be elections in Serbia and Moscow will put in place a government froiendly to them – the watch how things change.

adamnyc

pre 12 godina

these are the same people who toss bombs and attack polling stations... these thugs have already decided "on behalf" of kosovo serbs long ago.

MikeC

pre 12 godina

delon


Minorities in Serbia have all the rights that they can wish for. Serbs in Kosovo, however, have only two rights: to die or to run.
Why don't you look at the rights serbs have in Albania? Or the greeks in south Albania? Give them rights before you demand others to give something they already enjoy in Serbia. Just have a look at Kosovo where churches and minorities are protected 24 hours a day. Do we have NATO protecting albanians in Presevo? Or hungerians in Vojvodina? Albanians are not capable of living with others. You are biggots and muslim. Its in your blood.

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

SteveB asked how many dumb Albanians are on this site. Well here is one.
Belgrade has no influence nor does it dare to try and go against the Serbs in Kosovo. How many times do you people have to be told that the RUSSIANS will not allow interference? Has it not dawned on you people that the Serbs are protected outside Belgrade????????? If it was left to that snake Tadic NATO would now be in total control of Northern Kosovo.
In February or March 2012 ther will be elections in Serbia and Moscow will put in place a government froiendly to them – the watch how things change.
(sj, 26 December 2011 22:59)

Hmmmmm. I'm not Albanian. Also why would you refer to me as stupid for raising questions? Also there is no need to insult me by implying that I'm "stupid". I'm actually surprised B92 posted your comment as their comment policy states: "Comments which include insults, indecencies, racial or ethnic hate messages and intolerance of any kind will not be published". Your comment includes an insult and arguably a racial/ethnic hate message.

Engineer

pre 12 godina

But does Belgrade find this acceptable? Will Belgrade consider this referendum legitimate?
(Ian, UK, 26 December 2011 12:02)

SteveB asked how many dumb Albanians are on this site. Well here is one.
Belgrade has no influence nor does it dare to try and go against the Serbs in Kosovo. How many times do you people have to be told that the RUSSIANS will not allow interference? Has it not dawned on you people that the Serbs are protected outside Belgrade????????? If it was left to that snake Tadic NATO would now be in total control of Northern Kosovo.
In February or March 2012 ther will be elections in Serbia and Moscow will put in place a government froiendly to them – the watch how things change.
(sj, 26 December 2011 22:59)

For a man who talks about free Serbia and nation it seems you are asking for a pupet government??? This sounds STUPID dont you think. I guess if Russia putts a goverment in Serbia is OK but if they are accepted by West its interference. Please think what you are writing and best thing for K-Albanins is for Serbia to get Radicals in Power I hope they come sonner the better. lets put a wall and turn it East and west berlin and see again who comes in better shape.

Simpatiku

pre 12 godina

Perfect! Once upon a time there was a territory called "Republika Srpska Krajina". Serbs held a referendum over there too. When a first tractor reached Belgrade they found out they have been ridden.

icj1

pre 12 godina

BTW Declaration of Kosovo independence wasn't illegal, while recognitions of UDI by 80+ countries were against 1244.
(aaayyy, 26 December 2011 20:57)

Hmmm, let me see if I understood this correctly. We have an act which is in accordance with 1244, but recognizing that act is a violation of 1244 ! Something does not sound right :)
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So Serbia should have sued those countries, not UDI itself, which, as one of the posters has pointed out could be done by anybody - each of us could declare UDI any day of the week.
(aaayyy, 26 December 2011 20:57)

Sure, go ahead. I’m sure no Albanian would object to you declaring independence three times a day if that makes you happy :)

Engineer

pre 12 godina

You are biggots and muslim. Its in your blood.
(MikeC, 26 December 2011 21:31)

So Muslims are Biggots?? dont you think that is hate for someone who is preaching tolerance. You know for example that many Serbs are Muslim does that mean their blood is different than Serbians who are orthodox how can you think like that Mike I have thought of you as more progressive person especially living in Sweeden,

I think this is quit sad since for example you have Albanins who are Orthodox, Muslim or Catholic and they al have similar blood and in few cases it happened in same family so I would say Religion has nothing to do with persons behaviouer as all religions have preached hate and do today.

Srecan Bozic and Sretna nova Godina from a tolerant Albanin

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

BTW Declaration of Kosovo independence wasn't illegal, while recognitions of UDI by 80+ countries were against 1244. So Serbia should have sued those countries, not UDI itself, which, as one of the posters has pointed out could be done by anybody - each of us could declare UDI any day of the week.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

I don't know who the fool is here. Kosova is populated over 90% Albanians, so what now?
(ardi asllani, 26 December 2011 20:41)

And northern Kosovo is populated by over 95% Serbs. You do the math and figure out the self-determination :)

Free Kosovska Mitrovica

pre 12 godina

February 15? Statehood day? Leave this stupid symbolism behind, the referendum must be held as soon as possible, before the albanians have a chance to consolidate any of these pseudo "agreements".

not buying it

pre 12 godina

SteveB asked how many dumb Albanians are on this site. Well here is one.
Belgrade has no influence nor does it dare to try and go against the Serbs in Kosovo. How many times do you people have to be told that the RUSSIANS will not allow interference? Has it not dawned on you people that the Serbs are protected outside Belgrade????????? If it was left to that snake Tadic NATO would now be in total control of Northern Kosovo.
In February or March 2012 ther will be elections in Serbia and Moscow will put in place a government froiendly to them – the watch how things change.
(sj, 26 December 2011 22:59
Yes we are seeing that Russian influence. The fact that they were held at the border for 3 days. The numerous resolutions and votes the Russians have mastered at the UNSC this month while they held the Presidency. The fact that Kfor and Eulex has withdrawn from the north completely. The fact that they rushed through parliament an exception to their constitution to grant special citizenship to the north Serbs.
Yeah it is all evident.
whether they be Serbs, Albanians, I don't think you will find any of them dumb enough to buy what you are selling.

Peggy

pre 12 godina

I'm actually surprised B92 posted your comment as their comment policy states: "Comments which include insults, indecencies, racial or ethnic hate messages and intolerance of any kind will not be published". Your comment includes an insult and arguably a racial/ethnic hate message.
(Ian, UK, 27 Dec
==ember 2011 13:57)
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Ever read Roberto's posts?

Either you haven't read them or you don't see any harm in insulting Serbs and spewing rubbish without evidence in order to maximize affect of jabs.

The reason we say you are Albanian is because clearly you are, by blood somewhere down the line at least.
You say things like "we" when you refer to Albanians as well. Haven't you noticed?

sj

pre 12 godina

Hmmmmm. I'm not Albanian. Also why would you refer to me as stupid for raising questions? Also there is no need to insult me by implying that I'm "stupid". I'm actually surprised B92 posted your comment as their comment policy states: "Comments which include insults, indecencies, racial or ethnic hate messages and intolerance of any kind will not be published". Your comment includes an insult and arguably a racial/ethnic hate message.
(Ian, UK, 27 December 2011 13:57)

Actually your statements are exceptionally stupid to say the least. I have found that the vast majority of Albanians quite limited in their knowledge of the subjects they wish to defend and in fact some are outright liars of the first order.
If you find this forum less to your liking then I strongly suggest that you move over to the BBC where they will appreciate your love of the Albanians and the west in general.
Bon Voyage!

Yes we are seeing that Russian influence. The fact that they were held at the border for 3 days. The numerous resolutions and votes the Russians have mastered at the UNSC this month while they held the Presidency. The fact that Kfor and Eulex has withdrawn from the north completely. The fact that they rushed through parliament an exception to their constitution to grant special citizenship to the north Serbs.
Yeah it is all evident.
whether they be Serbs, Albanians, I don't think you will find any of them dumb enough to buy what you are selling.
(not buying it, 27 December 2011 06:42)

Now Ian, UK here is a beautiful example of my complaint.
This individual thinks that the Russians were held at the administrative line for 3 days by the UE/US/KFOR/NATO because they are not a power.
Little does he know that the Russians wanted to pick a fight with the EU. Knowing that the EU has caught the US illness of thinking they are great, they stopped the transport group for 15 minutes, but were told to let them go immediately, but here is where they fell into the Russians trap and they made a big song and dance about it for 3 days. Oh buy the way they never opened one truck to check what was inside it.
The UNSC has 3 voting for the Albanians and 2 against so it’s a foregone conclusion - stalemate. But let me tell you this much they don’t just put up resolutions because they are bored – it’s all to do with strategy mate. I’m not a university lecturer to teach you strategy. Oh the US does it too.
It’s your Angela Merkel that wants to let your rabble lose with free movement through Serbia to look for work. But I could not believe what has happened this so called arrangement only puts even more chain s on your Albos.

For a man who talks about free Serbia and nation it seems you are asking for a pupet government??? This sounds STUPID dont you think. I guess if Russia putts a goverment in Serbia is OK but if they are accepted by West its interference. Please think what you are writing and best thing for K-Albanins is for Serbia to get Radicals in Power I hope they come sonner the better. lets put a wall and turn it East and west berlin and see again who comes in better shape.
(Engineer, 27 December 2011 00:24)

My dear fellow the current government is a western imposed body and they have had their turn, so It’s the Russians time. Now you have Thaci, a western imposed stooge, and what has he brought to Kosovo to improve the living standards? NOTHING so what’s your point?
The Radicals will not come to power, its not their time, it will be Nikolic together with a few other parties that will take over, but this time your lot will feel the breeze of change very soon there after. Look at Croatia; pay very close attention and see what is happening there – its not an accident.
When are you people going to get it? We are in the 21 century and the empires are falling and new ones are rising. This is not the 1950/60s. The west is BROKE. Hey China, a communist state, has purchased EU bonds, the Russians have purchased EU bonds to stave off economic collapse of the EU.