To be very honest I don’t give a …. Whether you believe me or not. If I am untruthful then I am fooling the Serbs.
sj,
I know, that's the shame there are probably a few out there pinning false hopes on your postings. But true your revelations are pretty much harmless, as I doubt anyone is really looking to this site as source of intelligence gathering.
Yes, alas most of us rely on western media sources and the internet for information. However when I was young we did experiment with a Ouija board a few times, but we never ask it any world challenging questions. Do you use one for your information gathering?
If the answer to your question was provided by you, why even post?
The problem with people like you is that if it does not appear in the western media or the internet then its not true. There are many happenings that do not surface in any form of media.
The Russians have plenty of money. How would you know what the Russians are capable of? The closet you have been to the financier is industry is the hole in the wall to with draw money and that is it.
For your information that news item that I mentioned that come through Radio Australia was a reply from the BBC – you know the one that you Albanians love which tells the truth.
The Chinese put billions in the IMF and if you think they did this because the love the west then continue to believe your own BS. It done to have influence mate not out of love for the US.
To be very honest I don’t give a …. Whether you believe me or not. If I am untruthful then I am fooling the Serbs.
If this man is what he claims to be, then I am Steve Jobs revisited.
(Simpatiku, 27 December 2011 15:14)
Anyway the answer to my question was no you do not have a credible source to verify the 250 billion dollar loan you have been posting with every post for the last few days.
(pss, 27 December 2011 13:24)
PSS
If this man is what he claims to be, then I am Steve Jobs revisited.
sj, 26 December 2011 23:58)
Out of all that I got "I know nothing" Russia has a little over 500 billion in reserves with about half of that in Euro's maybe that is your confusion, the fact is that eventhough Russia is building it is not at a point to loan 250 billion to anyone. The figures that have actually been circulated has been 10 billion through the IMF, you remember the IMF the one you previously tried to tell everyone the #2 person was now a Chinese and not an American eventhough the website clearly states otherwise.
I think maybe you sgould also follow your own advice and do not believe everythign you read especially when it DOES come from state controlled sources.
Anyway the answer to my question was no you do not have a credible source to verify the 250 billion dollar loan you have been posting with every post for the last few days.
Let get the facts right, I work for a wholly-owned Chinese Merchant Bank with its head quarters in Hong Kong. I am in Malaysia because this Merchant Bank has a major branch in Kuala Lumpur.
About two weeks ago it was announced that Medvedev signed papers to purchase the new Eurobonds to the value of 250 billion. Prior to the Medvedev signing the Chinese had done the same but they committed to buy 300 billion. I did hear, but only on one occasion, of the Russian deal on radio Australia – it has been rumored for a couple of months that something like this would occur, and I can only guess that negotiations with the EU had taken longer than expected, but then the Russians may have wanted a better deal and knowing that the situation was getting worse they held off (honestly I don’t know – these are just guesses).
I know everything about the Chinese deal but I have no details about the Russians – they would have dealt through European banks.
“But most financial experts would tell you a loan to keep an organization afloat is different than wanting to control it. For that you would let it collapse and take it over.”
You are wrong here because you are thinking like a homeowner or a person who owns a business. Governments are different, they offer sweeteners for other governments or banks to invest and these sweeteners offer guarantees. The larger the loan the more they have to offer. I don’t know if you recall about September or October this year the Congress was passing a bill to place import duty on Chinese goods because they would not float their currency? If you have wondered why everything has gone silent then there are about 800 million reasons. The Chinese said you slap that on us, we pull our money out and US collapse like the Twin Towers.
Loans are not just loans between governments, but are more to do with influence than anything else – the Russians want to separate Europe from the US and the Americans cannot do a thing about it. Have you not wondered why the US has given 100 milling to Russia’s opposition at a time when the states are closing schools, reducing police numbers etc? Desperation to unseat Putin who is the most and by far the most popular politician in that country.
A country does not lose its investment, unlike when you or I go bankrupt – the security put up more than pays for any losses. Its you and I that pay for those guarantees in the long run.
Who would have thought that in 1990s the Russians, who was were on their knees would in 2011 lend the EU 250 billion to stave off economic collapse?????
(sj, 25 December 2011 21:58)
Oh my dear, assuming that the above really happened, the West is again outsmarting the Russians by lending to them at higher rates and make the Russians lend back to the West at lower rates !
"Very well known company (Lockheed Martin) plans to invested in Kosovo for the production of tanks and heavy artillery that cost much cheaper than in the USA."
(drini., 26 December 2011 13:23)
This must be a joke, the US government would never allow one of the biggest US military supplier to invest in a corrupt place ruled by criminal clans and where it's almost sure that secret details of defense products will be sold directly to not so befriended countries like Iran or Russia.
Very well known company (Lockheed Martin) plans to invested in Kosovo for the production of tanks and heavy artillery that cost much cheaper than in the USA.
a"That’s what you think. Before 2007 anyone predicting a financial crises was declared mad, but look at the west today."
(sj, 25 December 2011 21:58)
When Ronald Reagan said 'The Berlin was has to be torn down', everyone was thinking he's mad. And East German politicians even claimed it will stay there for some 100 more years - but look where the East is today!
"This is not wishful thinking but fact. Even if it remains in some form it will be Russia that rules the EU and guess what happens to your Albanians in Kosovo bye, bye."
(sj, 25 December 2011 21:58)
Oh, then I better hope that the EU will collapse soon before Russia 'rules' the EU. But why do we discuss? The Maya predicted that the world ends on Dec 21th, 2012 - that's a fact :)
That’s what you think. Before 2007 anyone predicting a financial crises was declared mad, but look at the west today. Who would have thought that in 1990s the Russians, who was were on their knees would in 2011 lend the EU 250 billion to stave off economic collapse?????
This is not wishful thinking but fact. Even if it remains in some form it will be Russia that rules the EU and guess what happens to your Albanians in Kosovo bye, bye.
(sj, 25 December 2011 21:58)
Not that I really expect a credible answer, I am going ot ask it. For several days straight you keep enlightening everyone on this 250 billion dollar loan that Russia is making to bail out the EU, but yet you seem to be the only one to know about it. I cannot find any mention of it in any search. Can you enlighten us further. Maybe it is something you only know because you orchestrated the paperwork in your Malasian bank??
any credible references out there?
But most financial experts would tell you a loan to keep an organization afloat is different than wanting to control it. For that you would let it collapse and take it over.
Not very smart to loan or invest in something that is going to collapse in a year, don't you think.
There goes the Greko/Serbo/Russo filia sterotype.... please grow up and stop insulting other people, your so called great country men including you make a living in these coutries that you despise.
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(arti, 25 December 2011 17:18)
My initial posting was about the EU alone which yourself turned into a polemic against Greece and the Greeks.So stop playing the victim again.
Impossible to answer, since both will not happen, neither the recognition nor the collapse of the EU - though some people like to predict all kind of nonsense in their own wishful thinking world.
(Comm. Parrisson, 25 December 2011 13:17)
That’s what you think. Before 2007 anyone predicting a financial crises was declared mad, but look at the west today. Who would have thought that in 1990s the Russians, who was were on their knees would in 2011 lend the EU 250 billion to stave off economic collapse?????
This is not wishful thinking but fact. Even if it remains in some form it will be Russia that rules the EU and guess what happens to your Albanians in Kosovo bye, bye.
Cool down man.Those pigs have already landed in Dohány street area.A very delicious food will be made of them for New years eve
(szemi, 25 December 2011 16:19)
Szemi, I was recently in Wesselényi Street, next to the great Synagogue of Dohány Street. Many things were on sale there... like:
1) Pork, stewed in milk
2) Russian Christmas ornaments, picturing Дед Мороз
3) Little statues of Edita Tahiri, dressed as Снегурочка, you know - sexy mini-skirt, little dress, inviting smile.
Ooops, I just noticed, I messed things up. Two are incorrect and one is correct. Which one? (Hint-hint: if you can imagine the taste of pork stewed in milk or Edita Tahiri in mini-skirt... my condolences, you need to see a doctor).
Pork is best by the way with mead, we call it "медовуха". Медовуха and pork is a match made in heaven, with sufficient amount of mead you will too, believe that pork is kosher. I think, Poles drink it too - I buy if I can the Slovak one, it's less strong than Ukrainian and has more taste, more resembling Russian. But if nothing else, Ukrainian can do it, too. Cheers!
We call them kósertés. Hanukkah is by the way a great celebration of bigotry and stupidity over enlighted Hellenism (not to be mistaken for Henelism). Not my favorite to say the least. But people do not read history books.
(Ataman, 25 December 2011 17:59
Dude as a long time Gate 7 trained fanatic I am completle aware of this fact and never miss to eceducate my favourits.Even last Tuesday I headed for Kluzál Square and tried to ask puppies what they really celabrate and if darkness,stupidity and barbarism should really be adored.The reactions were quite agressive.
A very delicious food will be made of them for New years eve.Otherwise Happy Christmas and also Happy Hanukkah.
(szemi, 25 December 2011 16:19)
We call them kósertés. Hanukkah is by the way a great celebration of bigotry and stupidity over enlighted Hellenism (not to be mistaken for Henelism). Not my favorite to say the least. But people do not read history books.
As to us blocking kosovo's entry into eu my honest opinion is that I wouldn't do such a thing.I would rather see all the Albanian human,drugs and guns traffickers,robbers,abductors moving from Greece into Germany.My only concern is that the EU won't last that long for my wishes to come true.
(Leonidas, 25 December 2011 15:47)
There goes the Greko/Serbo/Russo filia sterotype.... please grow up and stop insulting other people, your so called great country men including you make a living in these coutries that you despise.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8616434.stm
She's clearly on drugs to make such a statement. Cyprus has said that even if Serbia recognizes Kosovo, they will not. Yes that stuff that Thaci sold her must be the bomb. Pass the bong.
She is right. I just looked outside and seen a squadron of jet-propeled pigs zig past our village. The pigs were flying on an humanitarian bombing mission, of course.
(Ataman, 25 December 2011 15:46)
Cool down man.Those pigs have already landed in Dohány street area.A very delicious food will be made of them for New years eve.Otherwise Happy Christmas and also Happy Hanukkah.
Just because you are the very people who threatens civilised Europe with corruption, raciaacim and scams doesn't mean Europe will divorce you and leave you bankrupt.
Greeks have a lot of cheek to demand anything since we all know that from civilisation went on to be civili-corruption.
As for the article, well she has point to an extent where we the kosovars will be in eu as Kosovo..I know some of you have mind block to see the these negotiations as much as are helping Serbs you have to think that eu is not stupid enough to let it go only one way when it comes to the final solution, and let's assure you it won't be Kosovo province..
Now happy Easter, meant Xmas
Artan
(Artan, 25 December 2011 14:55)
Arta
I am not going to argue with you because your ignorance is beyond boundaries.The Greek economy is less than 3% of the EU and everybody is hiding behind the crisis in Greece.The fact is the EU is finished and nobody can save her now.
As to us blocking kosovo's entry into eu my honest opinion is that I wouldn't do such a thing.I would rather see all the Albanian human,drugs and guns traffickers,robbers,abductors moving from Greece into Germany.My only concern is that the EU won't last that long for my wishes to come true.
Funny to see people contradicting themselves in just two sentences . Hey, either the countries realized something and recognized Kosovo on their own, or Paccolli 'lobbied' the recognitions (== handed over a briefcase with some $$$ notes to corrupt ministers). I think it was more like the 2nd option. (Analyst, 25 December 2011 15:03)
I dont know how your lobbyists work, and why Serbia would pay countries to NOT recognize Kosovo (but hey, Belgrade is known for spending large amounts of money for nothing, see 960 € every minute for nothing). But all our Mr. Pacolli has to do is show those sceptical countries, that nothing happened to the 80+ states who already did recognize Kosovo, and that they should do the same. And thats what they did and will continue to do come 2012.
She is right. I just looked outside and seen a squadron of jet-propeled pigs zig past our village. The pigs were flying on an humanitarian bombing mission, of course.
And I'm sure that these five EU member states which have ethnic minorities on their own territory will never recognize an unilaterally seceded, self-proclaimed 'Kosovo' created by an separatist ethnic minority (especially not when they are headed by persons who are better described as criminals than as politicians), not to allow a dangerous precedence. Solutions can only be reached by dialogue and not by unilateral moves.
(Analyst, 25 December 2011 12:30)
Don't be concerned about that... After ICJ's opinion (thank you Vuk) they have already dumped Serbia to its fate and have said that Kosovo is not similar to their situations and does not set any precedent for them.
"Even the last flood of african countries that recognized Kosovo realized that they dont have to fear seperations in their own states.
....
Trust me, Mr. Pacolli has done a great job in 2011, and 2012 will be even better."
(Kenny, 25 December 2011 13:42)
Funny to see people contradicting themselves in just two sentences . Hey, either the countries realized something and recognized Kosovo on their own, or Paccolli 'lobbied' the recognitions (== handed over a briefcase with some $$$ notes to corrupt ministers). I think it was more like the 2nd option.
"When asked whether Kosovo would continue the dialogue if Serbia did not implement the agreements that had been reached, she said that Kosovo was committed to the dialogue and regional cooperation."
The answer that the basic principle of negotiations is giving something and receiving something in return. Unfortunately Kosovo insists on giving nothing and even trying to take things that are not theirs (Northern Kosovo). In this situation they cannot expect to receive much and they don't have any leverage to get Belgrade to comply. Tahiri knows this but doesn't have the influence to repair this disfunctional Kosovo attitude.
Just because you are the very people who threatens civilised Europe with corruption, raciaacim and scams doesn't mean Europe will divorce you and leave you bankrupt.
Greeks have a lot of cheek to demand anything since we all know that from civilisation went on to be civili-corruption.
As for the article, well she has point to an extent where we the kosovars will be in eu as Kosovo..I know some of you have mind block to see the these negotiations as much as are helping Serbs you have to think that eu is not stupid enough to let it go only one way when it comes to the final solution, and let's assure you it won't be Kosovo province..
Priština team chief Edita Tahiri has assessed that five EU member states that still have not recognized Kosovo will do so in the future.
B91
Fortunately it won't be necessary for the five countries to be asked to recognise Kosovo because there won't be any EU to join.
This European superstate, governed from Belgium and France, largely run by unelected bureaucrats, with a currency that is patently loaded to suit Germany's economic interests and is bankrupting half of the rest of Europe, endemic corruption, with no accountability whatsoever, is just about to get its death certificate.Only the fear of disorderly and unpredictable collapse is still keeping the project alive.
Unfortunately,Germany are going to hated all over again, this time for trying to preserve the project they set up to avoid their past repeating itself. It's already begun in southern Europe.
Of course these five remaining EU countries will eventually recognize Kosovos independence. I can understand that they had their doubts because they maybe had their own minorities and were scared, but Kosovo and the court in Den Haag showed that this was a unique case which cant be applied to other countries. Even the last flood of african countries that recognized Kosovo realized that they dont have to fear seperations in their own states. Same goes for Kosovos neighbours like Macedonia or Montenegro. In fact NO COUNTRY that recognized Kosovo has had ANY DIFFICULTIES within their own state because of it.
Another sign is that they start to accept Kosovar passports and documents and build ties to Prishtina even though they dont recognize them yet.
Trust me, Mr. Pacolli has done a great job in 2011, and 2012 will be even better.
"My question is will it be before the EU collapses or after?"
(sj, 25 December 2011 12:47)
Impossible to answer, since both will not happen, neither the recognition nor the collapse of the EU - though some people like to predict all kind of nonsense in their own wishful thinking world.
Edita Tahiri trying her best at showing progress where there is none at all. Now she claims that all five EU members that do not recognize Kosovo will do so soon. My question is will it be before the EU collapses or after?
"I am sure that the five EU member states that have not recognized our independence will do so in the future and realize and recognize Kosovo’s independence and a new reality in the Balkans "
And I'm sure that these five EU member states which have ethnic minorities on their own territory will never recognize an unilaterally seceded, self-proclaimed 'Kosovo' created by an separatist ethnic minority (especially not when they are headed by persons who are better described as criminals than as politicians), not to allow a dangerous precedence. Solutions can only be reached by dialogue and not by unilateral moves.
She must be smoking some good stuff in Turkey to come up with this nonsense. Go ahead and believe in fairy tales, go ahead. Imagine also talking to the Turks about the EU. I'm sure they are happy since the EU won't allow Turkey into its exclusive club.
Keep dreaming Mrs. Tahiri! But it will never happen. The only thing will happen in the future is that Kosovo Albanians will agree to a "compromise formula" which is acceptable to both sides.
Kosovo will never be a nation and it will stay as a Serbian province for good.
"I am sure that the five EU member states that have not recognized our independence will do so in the future and realize and recognize Kosovo’s independence and a new reality in the Balkans "
And I'm sure that these five EU member states which have ethnic minorities on their own territory will never recognize an unilaterally seceded, self-proclaimed 'Kosovo' created by an separatist ethnic minority (especially not when they are headed by persons who are better described as criminals than as politicians), not to allow a dangerous precedence. Solutions can only be reached by dialogue and not by unilateral moves.
She is right. I just looked outside and seen a squadron of jet-propeled pigs zig past our village. The pigs were flying on an humanitarian bombing mission, of course.
Just because you are the very people who threatens civilised Europe with corruption, raciaacim and scams doesn't mean Europe will divorce you and leave you bankrupt.
Greeks have a lot of cheek to demand anything since we all know that from civilisation went on to be civili-corruption.
As for the article, well she has point to an extent where we the kosovars will be in eu as Kosovo..I know some of you have mind block to see the these negotiations as much as are helping Serbs you have to think that eu is not stupid enough to let it go only one way when it comes to the final solution, and let's assure you it won't be Kosovo province..
Now happy Easter, meant Xmas
Artan
(Artan, 25 December 2011 14:55)
Arta
I am not going to argue with you because your ignorance is beyond boundaries.The Greek economy is less than 3% of the EU and everybody is hiding behind the crisis in Greece.The fact is the EU is finished and nobody can save her now.
As to us blocking kosovo's entry into eu my honest opinion is that I wouldn't do such a thing.I would rather see all the Albanian human,drugs and guns traffickers,robbers,abductors moving from Greece into Germany.My only concern is that the EU won't last that long for my wishes to come true.
She's clearly on drugs to make such a statement. Cyprus has said that even if Serbia recognizes Kosovo, they will not. Yes that stuff that Thaci sold her must be the bomb. Pass the bong.
Edita Tahiri trying her best at showing progress where there is none at all. Now she claims that all five EU members that do not recognize Kosovo will do so soon. My question is will it be before the EU collapses or after?
Priština team chief Edita Tahiri has assessed that five EU member states that still have not recognized Kosovo will do so in the future.
B91
Fortunately it won't be necessary for the five countries to be asked to recognise Kosovo because there won't be any EU to join.
This European superstate, governed from Belgium and France, largely run by unelected bureaucrats, with a currency that is patently loaded to suit Germany's economic interests and is bankrupting half of the rest of Europe, endemic corruption, with no accountability whatsoever, is just about to get its death certificate.Only the fear of disorderly and unpredictable collapse is still keeping the project alive.
Unfortunately,Germany are going to hated all over again, this time for trying to preserve the project they set up to avoid their past repeating itself. It's already begun in southern Europe.
Keep dreaming Mrs. Tahiri! But it will never happen. The only thing will happen in the future is that Kosovo Albanians will agree to a "compromise formula" which is acceptable to both sides.
Kosovo will never be a nation and it will stay as a Serbian province for good.
"When asked whether Kosovo would continue the dialogue if Serbia did not implement the agreements that had been reached, she said that Kosovo was committed to the dialogue and regional cooperation."
The answer that the basic principle of negotiations is giving something and receiving something in return. Unfortunately Kosovo insists on giving nothing and even trying to take things that are not theirs (Northern Kosovo). In this situation they cannot expect to receive much and they don't have any leverage to get Belgrade to comply. Tahiri knows this but doesn't have the influence to repair this disfunctional Kosovo attitude.
She is right. I just looked outside and seen a squadron of jet-propeled pigs zig past our village. The pigs were flying on an humanitarian bombing mission, of course.
(Ataman, 25 December 2011 15:46)
Cool down man.Those pigs have already landed in Dohány street area.A very delicious food will be made of them for New years eve.Otherwise Happy Christmas and also Happy Hanukkah.
She must be smoking some good stuff in Turkey to come up with this nonsense. Go ahead and believe in fairy tales, go ahead. Imagine also talking to the Turks about the EU. I'm sure they are happy since the EU won't allow Turkey into its exclusive club.
"Even the last flood of african countries that recognized Kosovo realized that they dont have to fear seperations in their own states.
....
Trust me, Mr. Pacolli has done a great job in 2011, and 2012 will be even better."
(Kenny, 25 December 2011 13:42)
Funny to see people contradicting themselves in just two sentences . Hey, either the countries realized something and recognized Kosovo on their own, or Paccolli 'lobbied' the recognitions (== handed over a briefcase with some $$$ notes to corrupt ministers). I think it was more like the 2nd option.
"My question is will it be before the EU collapses or after?"
(sj, 25 December 2011 12:47)
Impossible to answer, since both will not happen, neither the recognition nor the collapse of the EU - though some people like to predict all kind of nonsense in their own wishful thinking world.
As to us blocking kosovo's entry into eu my honest opinion is that I wouldn't do such a thing.I would rather see all the Albanian human,drugs and guns traffickers,robbers,abductors moving from Greece into Germany.My only concern is that the EU won't last that long for my wishes to come true.
(Leonidas, 25 December 2011 15:47)
There goes the Greko/Serbo/Russo filia sterotype.... please grow up and stop insulting other people, your so called great country men including you make a living in these coutries that you despise.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8616434.stm
There goes the Greko/Serbo/Russo filia sterotype.... please grow up and stop insulting other people, your so called great country men including you make a living in these coutries that you despise.
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(arti, 25 December 2011 17:18)
My initial posting was about the EU alone which yourself turned into a polemic against Greece and the Greeks.So stop playing the victim again.
Of course these five remaining EU countries will eventually recognize Kosovos independence. I can understand that they had their doubts because they maybe had their own minorities and were scared, but Kosovo and the court in Den Haag showed that this was a unique case which cant be applied to other countries. Even the last flood of african countries that recognized Kosovo realized that they dont have to fear seperations in their own states. Same goes for Kosovos neighbours like Macedonia or Montenegro. In fact NO COUNTRY that recognized Kosovo has had ANY DIFFICULTIES within their own state because of it.
Another sign is that they start to accept Kosovar passports and documents and build ties to Prishtina even though they dont recognize them yet.
Trust me, Mr. Pacolli has done a great job in 2011, and 2012 will be even better.
Impossible to answer, since both will not happen, neither the recognition nor the collapse of the EU - though some people like to predict all kind of nonsense in their own wishful thinking world.
(Comm. Parrisson, 25 December 2011 13:17)
That’s what you think. Before 2007 anyone predicting a financial crises was declared mad, but look at the west today. Who would have thought that in 1990s the Russians, who was were on their knees would in 2011 lend the EU 250 billion to stave off economic collapse?????
This is not wishful thinking but fact. Even if it remains in some form it will be Russia that rules the EU and guess what happens to your Albanians in Kosovo bye, bye.
Just because you are the very people who threatens civilised Europe with corruption, raciaacim and scams doesn't mean Europe will divorce you and leave you bankrupt.
Greeks have a lot of cheek to demand anything since we all know that from civilisation went on to be civili-corruption.
As for the article, well she has point to an extent where we the kosovars will be in eu as Kosovo..I know some of you have mind block to see the these negotiations as much as are helping Serbs you have to think that eu is not stupid enough to let it go only one way when it comes to the final solution, and let's assure you it won't be Kosovo province..
And I'm sure that these five EU member states which have ethnic minorities on their own territory will never recognize an unilaterally seceded, self-proclaimed 'Kosovo' created by an separatist ethnic minority (especially not when they are headed by persons who are better described as criminals than as politicians), not to allow a dangerous precedence. Solutions can only be reached by dialogue and not by unilateral moves.
(Analyst, 25 December 2011 12:30)
Don't be concerned about that... After ICJ's opinion (thank you Vuk) they have already dumped Serbia to its fate and have said that Kosovo is not similar to their situations and does not set any precedent for them.
Funny to see people contradicting themselves in just two sentences . Hey, either the countries realized something and recognized Kosovo on their own, or Paccolli 'lobbied' the recognitions (== handed over a briefcase with some $$$ notes to corrupt ministers). I think it was more like the 2nd option. (Analyst, 25 December 2011 15:03)
I dont know how your lobbyists work, and why Serbia would pay countries to NOT recognize Kosovo (but hey, Belgrade is known for spending large amounts of money for nothing, see 960 € every minute for nothing). But all our Mr. Pacolli has to do is show those sceptical countries, that nothing happened to the 80+ states who already did recognize Kosovo, and that they should do the same. And thats what they did and will continue to do come 2012.
Cool down man.Those pigs have already landed in Dohány street area.A very delicious food will be made of them for New years eve
(szemi, 25 December 2011 16:19)
Szemi, I was recently in Wesselényi Street, next to the great Synagogue of Dohány Street. Many things were on sale there... like:
1) Pork, stewed in milk
2) Russian Christmas ornaments, picturing Дед Мороз
3) Little statues of Edita Tahiri, dressed as Снегурочка, you know - sexy mini-skirt, little dress, inviting smile.
Ooops, I just noticed, I messed things up. Two are incorrect and one is correct. Which one? (Hint-hint: if you can imagine the taste of pork stewed in milk or Edita Tahiri in mini-skirt... my condolences, you need to see a doctor).
Pork is best by the way with mead, we call it "медовуха". Медовуха and pork is a match made in heaven, with sufficient amount of mead you will too, believe that pork is kosher. I think, Poles drink it too - I buy if I can the Slovak one, it's less strong than Ukrainian and has more taste, more resembling Russian. But if nothing else, Ukrainian can do it, too. Cheers!
That’s what you think. Before 2007 anyone predicting a financial crises was declared mad, but look at the west today. Who would have thought that in 1990s the Russians, who was were on their knees would in 2011 lend the EU 250 billion to stave off economic collapse?????
This is not wishful thinking but fact. Even if it remains in some form it will be Russia that rules the EU and guess what happens to your Albanians in Kosovo bye, bye.
(sj, 25 December 2011 21:58)
Not that I really expect a credible answer, I am going ot ask it. For several days straight you keep enlightening everyone on this 250 billion dollar loan that Russia is making to bail out the EU, but yet you seem to be the only one to know about it. I cannot find any mention of it in any search. Can you enlighten us further. Maybe it is something you only know because you orchestrated the paperwork in your Malasian bank??
any credible references out there?
But most financial experts would tell you a loan to keep an organization afloat is different than wanting to control it. For that you would let it collapse and take it over.
Not very smart to loan or invest in something that is going to collapse in a year, don't you think.
"Very well known company (Lockheed Martin) plans to invested in Kosovo for the production of tanks and heavy artillery that cost much cheaper than in the USA."
(drini., 26 December 2011 13:23)
This must be a joke, the US government would never allow one of the biggest US military supplier to invest in a corrupt place ruled by criminal clans and where it's almost sure that secret details of defense products will be sold directly to not so befriended countries like Iran or Russia.
a"That’s what you think. Before 2007 anyone predicting a financial crises was declared mad, but look at the west today."
(sj, 25 December 2011 21:58)
When Ronald Reagan said 'The Berlin was has to be torn down', everyone was thinking he's mad. And East German politicians even claimed it will stay there for some 100 more years - but look where the East is today!
We call them kósertés. Hanukkah is by the way a great celebration of bigotry and stupidity over enlighted Hellenism (not to be mistaken for Henelism). Not my favorite to say the least. But people do not read history books.
(Ataman, 25 December 2011 17:59
Dude as a long time Gate 7 trained fanatic I am completle aware of this fact and never miss to eceducate my favourits.Even last Tuesday I headed for Kluzál Square and tried to ask puppies what they really celabrate and if darkness,stupidity and barbarism should really be adored.The reactions were quite agressive.
"This is not wishful thinking but fact. Even if it remains in some form it will be Russia that rules the EU and guess what happens to your Albanians in Kosovo bye, bye."
(sj, 25 December 2011 21:58)
Oh, then I better hope that the EU will collapse soon before Russia 'rules' the EU. But why do we discuss? The Maya predicted that the world ends on Dec 21th, 2012 - that's a fact :)
Let get the facts right, I work for a wholly-owned Chinese Merchant Bank with its head quarters in Hong Kong. I am in Malaysia because this Merchant Bank has a major branch in Kuala Lumpur.
About two weeks ago it was announced that Medvedev signed papers to purchase the new Eurobonds to the value of 250 billion. Prior to the Medvedev signing the Chinese had done the same but they committed to buy 300 billion. I did hear, but only on one occasion, of the Russian deal on radio Australia – it has been rumored for a couple of months that something like this would occur, and I can only guess that negotiations with the EU had taken longer than expected, but then the Russians may have wanted a better deal and knowing that the situation was getting worse they held off (honestly I don’t know – these are just guesses).
I know everything about the Chinese deal but I have no details about the Russians – they would have dealt through European banks.
“But most financial experts would tell you a loan to keep an organization afloat is different than wanting to control it. For that you would let it collapse and take it over.”
You are wrong here because you are thinking like a homeowner or a person who owns a business. Governments are different, they offer sweeteners for other governments or banks to invest and these sweeteners offer guarantees. The larger the loan the more they have to offer. I don’t know if you recall about September or October this year the Congress was passing a bill to place import duty on Chinese goods because they would not float their currency? If you have wondered why everything has gone silent then there are about 800 million reasons. The Chinese said you slap that on us, we pull our money out and US collapse like the Twin Towers.
Loans are not just loans between governments, but are more to do with influence than anything else – the Russians want to separate Europe from the US and the Americans cannot do a thing about it. Have you not wondered why the US has given 100 milling to Russia’s opposition at a time when the states are closing schools, reducing police numbers etc? Desperation to unseat Putin who is the most and by far the most popular politician in that country.
A country does not lose its investment, unlike when you or I go bankrupt – the security put up more than pays for any losses. Its you and I that pay for those guarantees in the long run.
Anyway the answer to my question was no you do not have a credible source to verify the 250 billion dollar loan you have been posting with every post for the last few days.
(pss, 27 December 2011 13:24)
PSS
If this man is what he claims to be, then I am Steve Jobs revisited.
A very delicious food will be made of them for New years eve.Otherwise Happy Christmas and also Happy Hanukkah.
(szemi, 25 December 2011 16:19)
We call them kósertés. Hanukkah is by the way a great celebration of bigotry and stupidity over enlighted Hellenism (not to be mistaken for Henelism). Not my favorite to say the least. But people do not read history books.
Who would have thought that in 1990s the Russians, who was were on their knees would in 2011 lend the EU 250 billion to stave off economic collapse?????
(sj, 25 December 2011 21:58)
Oh my dear, assuming that the above really happened, the West is again outsmarting the Russians by lending to them at higher rates and make the Russians lend back to the West at lower rates !
sj, 26 December 2011 23:58)
Out of all that I got "I know nothing" Russia has a little over 500 billion in reserves with about half of that in Euro's maybe that is your confusion, the fact is that eventhough Russia is building it is not at a point to loan 250 billion to anyone. The figures that have actually been circulated has been 10 billion through the IMF, you remember the IMF the one you previously tried to tell everyone the #2 person was now a Chinese and not an American eventhough the website clearly states otherwise.
I think maybe you sgould also follow your own advice and do not believe everythign you read especially when it DOES come from state controlled sources.
Anyway the answer to my question was no you do not have a credible source to verify the 250 billion dollar loan you have been posting with every post for the last few days.
To be very honest I don’t give a …. Whether you believe me or not. If I am untruthful then I am fooling the Serbs.
sj,
I know, that's the shame there are probably a few out there pinning false hopes on your postings. But true your revelations are pretty much harmless, as I doubt anyone is really looking to this site as source of intelligence gathering.
Yes, alas most of us rely on western media sources and the internet for information. However when I was young we did experiment with a Ouija board a few times, but we never ask it any world challenging questions. Do you use one for your information gathering?
Very well known company (Lockheed Martin) plans to invested in Kosovo for the production of tanks and heavy artillery that cost much cheaper than in the USA.
If the answer to your question was provided by you, why even post?
The problem with people like you is that if it does not appear in the western media or the internet then its not true. There are many happenings that do not surface in any form of media.
The Russians have plenty of money. How would you know what the Russians are capable of? The closet you have been to the financier is industry is the hole in the wall to with draw money and that is it.
For your information that news item that I mentioned that come through Radio Australia was a reply from the BBC – you know the one that you Albanians love which tells the truth.
The Chinese put billions in the IMF and if you think they did this because the love the west then continue to believe your own BS. It done to have influence mate not out of love for the US.
To be very honest I don’t give a …. Whether you believe me or not. If I am untruthful then I am fooling the Serbs.
If this man is what he claims to be, then I am Steve Jobs revisited.
(Simpatiku, 27 December 2011 15:14)
Of course these five remaining EU countries will eventually recognize Kosovos independence. I can understand that they had their doubts because they maybe had their own minorities and were scared, but Kosovo and the court in Den Haag showed that this was a unique case which cant be applied to other countries. Even the last flood of african countries that recognized Kosovo realized that they dont have to fear seperations in their own states. Same goes for Kosovos neighbours like Macedonia or Montenegro. In fact NO COUNTRY that recognized Kosovo has had ANY DIFFICULTIES within their own state because of it.
Another sign is that they start to accept Kosovar passports and documents and build ties to Prishtina even though they dont recognize them yet.
Trust me, Mr. Pacolli has done a great job in 2011, and 2012 will be even better.
Funny to see people contradicting themselves in just two sentences . Hey, either the countries realized something and recognized Kosovo on their own, or Paccolli 'lobbied' the recognitions (== handed over a briefcase with some $$$ notes to corrupt ministers). I think it was more like the 2nd option. (Analyst, 25 December 2011 15:03)
I dont know how your lobbyists work, and why Serbia would pay countries to NOT recognize Kosovo (but hey, Belgrade is known for spending large amounts of money for nothing, see 960 € every minute for nothing). But all our Mr. Pacolli has to do is show those sceptical countries, that nothing happened to the 80+ states who already did recognize Kosovo, and that they should do the same. And thats what they did and will continue to do come 2012.
Just because you are the very people who threatens civilised Europe with corruption, raciaacim and scams doesn't mean Europe will divorce you and leave you bankrupt.
Greeks have a lot of cheek to demand anything since we all know that from civilisation went on to be civili-corruption.
As for the article, well she has point to an extent where we the kosovars will be in eu as Kosovo..I know some of you have mind block to see the these negotiations as much as are helping Serbs you have to think that eu is not stupid enough to let it go only one way when it comes to the final solution, and let's assure you it won't be Kosovo province..
And I'm sure that these five EU member states which have ethnic minorities on their own territory will never recognize an unilaterally seceded, self-proclaimed 'Kosovo' created by an separatist ethnic minority (especially not when they are headed by persons who are better described as criminals than as politicians), not to allow a dangerous precedence. Solutions can only be reached by dialogue and not by unilateral moves.
(Analyst, 25 December 2011 12:30)
Don't be concerned about that... After ICJ's opinion (thank you Vuk) they have already dumped Serbia to its fate and have said that Kosovo is not similar to their situations and does not set any precedent for them.
Keep dreaming Mrs. Tahiri! But it will never happen. The only thing will happen in the future is that Kosovo Albanians will agree to a "compromise formula" which is acceptable to both sides.
Kosovo will never be a nation and it will stay as a Serbian province for good.
Just because you are the very people who threatens civilised Europe with corruption, raciaacim and scams doesn't mean Europe will divorce you and leave you bankrupt.
Greeks have a lot of cheek to demand anything since we all know that from civilisation went on to be civili-corruption.
As for the article, well she has point to an extent where we the kosovars will be in eu as Kosovo..I know some of you have mind block to see the these negotiations as much as are helping Serbs you have to think that eu is not stupid enough to let it go only one way when it comes to the final solution, and let's assure you it won't be Kosovo province..
Now happy Easter, meant Xmas
Artan
(Artan, 25 December 2011 14:55)
Arta
I am not going to argue with you because your ignorance is beyond boundaries.The Greek economy is less than 3% of the EU and everybody is hiding behind the crisis in Greece.The fact is the EU is finished and nobody can save her now.
As to us blocking kosovo's entry into eu my honest opinion is that I wouldn't do such a thing.I would rather see all the Albanian human,drugs and guns traffickers,robbers,abductors moving from Greece into Germany.My only concern is that the EU won't last that long for my wishes to come true.
Priština team chief Edita Tahiri has assessed that five EU member states that still have not recognized Kosovo will do so in the future.
B91
Fortunately it won't be necessary for the five countries to be asked to recognise Kosovo because there won't be any EU to join.
This European superstate, governed from Belgium and France, largely run by unelected bureaucrats, with a currency that is patently loaded to suit Germany's economic interests and is bankrupting half of the rest of Europe, endemic corruption, with no accountability whatsoever, is just about to get its death certificate.Only the fear of disorderly and unpredictable collapse is still keeping the project alive.
Unfortunately,Germany are going to hated all over again, this time for trying to preserve the project they set up to avoid their past repeating itself. It's already begun in southern Europe.
"I am sure that the five EU member states that have not recognized our independence will do so in the future and realize and recognize Kosovo’s independence and a new reality in the Balkans "
And I'm sure that these five EU member states which have ethnic minorities on their own territory will never recognize an unilaterally seceded, self-proclaimed 'Kosovo' created by an separatist ethnic minority (especially not when they are headed by persons who are better described as criminals than as politicians), not to allow a dangerous precedence. Solutions can only be reached by dialogue and not by unilateral moves.
Edita Tahiri trying her best at showing progress where there is none at all. Now she claims that all five EU members that do not recognize Kosovo will do so soon. My question is will it be before the EU collapses or after?
As to us blocking kosovo's entry into eu my honest opinion is that I wouldn't do such a thing.I would rather see all the Albanian human,drugs and guns traffickers,robbers,abductors moving from Greece into Germany.My only concern is that the EU won't last that long for my wishes to come true.
(Leonidas, 25 December 2011 15:47)
There goes the Greko/Serbo/Russo filia sterotype.... please grow up and stop insulting other people, your so called great country men including you make a living in these coutries that you despise.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8616434.stm
She's clearly on drugs to make such a statement. Cyprus has said that even if Serbia recognizes Kosovo, they will not. Yes that stuff that Thaci sold her must be the bomb. Pass the bong.
She must be smoking some good stuff in Turkey to come up with this nonsense. Go ahead and believe in fairy tales, go ahead. Imagine also talking to the Turks about the EU. I'm sure they are happy since the EU won't allow Turkey into its exclusive club.
"Even the last flood of african countries that recognized Kosovo realized that they dont have to fear seperations in their own states.
....
Trust me, Mr. Pacolli has done a great job in 2011, and 2012 will be even better."
(Kenny, 25 December 2011 13:42)
Funny to see people contradicting themselves in just two sentences . Hey, either the countries realized something and recognized Kosovo on their own, or Paccolli 'lobbied' the recognitions (== handed over a briefcase with some $$$ notes to corrupt ministers). I think it was more like the 2nd option.
She is right. I just looked outside and seen a squadron of jet-propeled pigs zig past our village. The pigs were flying on an humanitarian bombing mission, of course.
Impossible to answer, since both will not happen, neither the recognition nor the collapse of the EU - though some people like to predict all kind of nonsense in their own wishful thinking world.
(Comm. Parrisson, 25 December 2011 13:17)
That’s what you think. Before 2007 anyone predicting a financial crises was declared mad, but look at the west today. Who would have thought that in 1990s the Russians, who was were on their knees would in 2011 lend the EU 250 billion to stave off economic collapse?????
This is not wishful thinking but fact. Even if it remains in some form it will be Russia that rules the EU and guess what happens to your Albanians in Kosovo bye, bye.
That’s what you think. Before 2007 anyone predicting a financial crises was declared mad, but look at the west today. Who would have thought that in 1990s the Russians, who was were on their knees would in 2011 lend the EU 250 billion to stave off economic collapse?????
This is not wishful thinking but fact. Even if it remains in some form it will be Russia that rules the EU and guess what happens to your Albanians in Kosovo bye, bye.
(sj, 25 December 2011 21:58)
Not that I really expect a credible answer, I am going ot ask it. For several days straight you keep enlightening everyone on this 250 billion dollar loan that Russia is making to bail out the EU, but yet you seem to be the only one to know about it. I cannot find any mention of it in any search. Can you enlighten us further. Maybe it is something you only know because you orchestrated the paperwork in your Malasian bank??
any credible references out there?
But most financial experts would tell you a loan to keep an organization afloat is different than wanting to control it. For that you would let it collapse and take it over.
Not very smart to loan or invest in something that is going to collapse in a year, don't you think.
A very delicious food will be made of them for New years eve.Otherwise Happy Christmas and also Happy Hanukkah.
(szemi, 25 December 2011 16:19)
We call them kósertés. Hanukkah is by the way a great celebration of bigotry and stupidity over enlighted Hellenism (not to be mistaken for Henelism). Not my favorite to say the least. But people do not read history books.
"When asked whether Kosovo would continue the dialogue if Serbia did not implement the agreements that had been reached, she said that Kosovo was committed to the dialogue and regional cooperation."
The answer that the basic principle of negotiations is giving something and receiving something in return. Unfortunately Kosovo insists on giving nothing and even trying to take things that are not theirs (Northern Kosovo). In this situation they cannot expect to receive much and they don't have any leverage to get Belgrade to comply. Tahiri knows this but doesn't have the influence to repair this disfunctional Kosovo attitude.
There goes the Greko/Serbo/Russo filia sterotype.... please grow up and stop insulting other people, your so called great country men including you make a living in these coutries that you despise.
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(arti, 25 December 2011 17:18)
My initial posting was about the EU alone which yourself turned into a polemic against Greece and the Greeks.So stop playing the victim again.
"This is not wishful thinking but fact. Even if it remains in some form it will be Russia that rules the EU and guess what happens to your Albanians in Kosovo bye, bye."
(sj, 25 December 2011 21:58)
Oh, then I better hope that the EU will collapse soon before Russia 'rules' the EU. But why do we discuss? The Maya predicted that the world ends on Dec 21th, 2012 - that's a fact :)
Very well known company (Lockheed Martin) plans to invested in Kosovo for the production of tanks and heavy artillery that cost much cheaper than in the USA.
"My question is will it be before the EU collapses or after?"
(sj, 25 December 2011 12:47)
Impossible to answer, since both will not happen, neither the recognition nor the collapse of the EU - though some people like to predict all kind of nonsense in their own wishful thinking world.
She is right. I just looked outside and seen a squadron of jet-propeled pigs zig past our village. The pigs were flying on an humanitarian bombing mission, of course.
(Ataman, 25 December 2011 15:46)
Cool down man.Those pigs have already landed in Dohány street area.A very delicious food will be made of them for New years eve.Otherwise Happy Christmas and also Happy Hanukkah.
Who would have thought that in 1990s the Russians, who was were on their knees would in 2011 lend the EU 250 billion to stave off economic collapse?????
(sj, 25 December 2011 21:58)
Oh my dear, assuming that the above really happened, the West is again outsmarting the Russians by lending to them at higher rates and make the Russians lend back to the West at lower rates !
a"That’s what you think. Before 2007 anyone predicting a financial crises was declared mad, but look at the west today."
(sj, 25 December 2011 21:58)
When Ronald Reagan said 'The Berlin was has to be torn down', everyone was thinking he's mad. And East German politicians even claimed it will stay there for some 100 more years - but look where the East is today!
We call them kósertés. Hanukkah is by the way a great celebration of bigotry and stupidity over enlighted Hellenism (not to be mistaken for Henelism). Not my favorite to say the least. But people do not read history books.
(Ataman, 25 December 2011 17:59
Dude as a long time Gate 7 trained fanatic I am completle aware of this fact and never miss to eceducate my favourits.Even last Tuesday I headed for Kluzál Square and tried to ask puppies what they really celabrate and if darkness,stupidity and barbarism should really be adored.The reactions were quite agressive.
"Very well known company (Lockheed Martin) plans to invested in Kosovo for the production of tanks and heavy artillery that cost much cheaper than in the USA."
(drini., 26 December 2011 13:23)
This must be a joke, the US government would never allow one of the biggest US military supplier to invest in a corrupt place ruled by criminal clans and where it's almost sure that secret details of defense products will be sold directly to not so befriended countries like Iran or Russia.
Cool down man.Those pigs have already landed in Dohány street area.A very delicious food will be made of them for New years eve
(szemi, 25 December 2011 16:19)
Szemi, I was recently in Wesselényi Street, next to the great Synagogue of Dohány Street. Many things were on sale there... like:
1) Pork, stewed in milk
2) Russian Christmas ornaments, picturing Дед Мороз
3) Little statues of Edita Tahiri, dressed as Снегурочка, you know - sexy mini-skirt, little dress, inviting smile.
Ooops, I just noticed, I messed things up. Two are incorrect and one is correct. Which one? (Hint-hint: if you can imagine the taste of pork stewed in milk or Edita Tahiri in mini-skirt... my condolences, you need to see a doctor).
Pork is best by the way with mead, we call it "медовуха". Медовуха and pork is a match made in heaven, with sufficient amount of mead you will too, believe that pork is kosher. I think, Poles drink it too - I buy if I can the Slovak one, it's less strong than Ukrainian and has more taste, more resembling Russian. But if nothing else, Ukrainian can do it, too. Cheers!
sj, 26 December 2011 23:58)
Out of all that I got "I know nothing" Russia has a little over 500 billion in reserves with about half of that in Euro's maybe that is your confusion, the fact is that eventhough Russia is building it is not at a point to loan 250 billion to anyone. The figures that have actually been circulated has been 10 billion through the IMF, you remember the IMF the one you previously tried to tell everyone the #2 person was now a Chinese and not an American eventhough the website clearly states otherwise.
I think maybe you sgould also follow your own advice and do not believe everythign you read especially when it DOES come from state controlled sources.
Anyway the answer to my question was no you do not have a credible source to verify the 250 billion dollar loan you have been posting with every post for the last few days.
Let get the facts right, I work for a wholly-owned Chinese Merchant Bank with its head quarters in Hong Kong. I am in Malaysia because this Merchant Bank has a major branch in Kuala Lumpur.
About two weeks ago it was announced that Medvedev signed papers to purchase the new Eurobonds to the value of 250 billion. Prior to the Medvedev signing the Chinese had done the same but they committed to buy 300 billion. I did hear, but only on one occasion, of the Russian deal on radio Australia – it has been rumored for a couple of months that something like this would occur, and I can only guess that negotiations with the EU had taken longer than expected, but then the Russians may have wanted a better deal and knowing that the situation was getting worse they held off (honestly I don’t know – these are just guesses).
I know everything about the Chinese deal but I have no details about the Russians – they would have dealt through European banks.
“But most financial experts would tell you a loan to keep an organization afloat is different than wanting to control it. For that you would let it collapse and take it over.”
You are wrong here because you are thinking like a homeowner or a person who owns a business. Governments are different, they offer sweeteners for other governments or banks to invest and these sweeteners offer guarantees. The larger the loan the more they have to offer. I don’t know if you recall about September or October this year the Congress was passing a bill to place import duty on Chinese goods because they would not float their currency? If you have wondered why everything has gone silent then there are about 800 million reasons. The Chinese said you slap that on us, we pull our money out and US collapse like the Twin Towers.
Loans are not just loans between governments, but are more to do with influence than anything else – the Russians want to separate Europe from the US and the Americans cannot do a thing about it. Have you not wondered why the US has given 100 milling to Russia’s opposition at a time when the states are closing schools, reducing police numbers etc? Desperation to unseat Putin who is the most and by far the most popular politician in that country.
A country does not lose its investment, unlike when you or I go bankrupt – the security put up more than pays for any losses. Its you and I that pay for those guarantees in the long run.
Anyway the answer to my question was no you do not have a credible source to verify the 250 billion dollar loan you have been posting with every post for the last few days.
(pss, 27 December 2011 13:24)
PSS
If this man is what he claims to be, then I am Steve Jobs revisited.
If the answer to your question was provided by you, why even post?
The problem with people like you is that if it does not appear in the western media or the internet then its not true. There are many happenings that do not surface in any form of media.
The Russians have plenty of money. How would you know what the Russians are capable of? The closet you have been to the financier is industry is the hole in the wall to with draw money and that is it.
For your information that news item that I mentioned that come through Radio Australia was a reply from the BBC – you know the one that you Albanians love which tells the truth.
The Chinese put billions in the IMF and if you think they did this because the love the west then continue to believe your own BS. It done to have influence mate not out of love for the US.
To be very honest I don’t give a …. Whether you believe me or not. If I am untruthful then I am fooling the Serbs.
If this man is what he claims to be, then I am Steve Jobs revisited.
(Simpatiku, 27 December 2011 15:14)
To be very honest I don’t give a …. Whether you believe me or not. If I am untruthful then I am fooling the Serbs.
sj,
I know, that's the shame there are probably a few out there pinning false hopes on your postings. But true your revelations are pretty much harmless, as I doubt anyone is really looking to this site as source of intelligence gathering.
Yes, alas most of us rely on western media sources and the internet for information. However when I was young we did experiment with a Ouija board a few times, but we never ask it any world challenging questions. Do you use one for your information gathering?
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