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Friday, 23.12.2011.

09:54

Barricades should be removed “as soon as possible”

EULEX chief Xavier Bout de Marnhac has stated that it is very important that all the barricades in northern Kosovo be removed as soon as possible.

Izvor: Tanjug

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icj1

pre 12 godina

The Russia of 1999 was a nation on its knees
(sj, 24 December 2011 00:05)

Yeah, and unfortunately it is even worse today with the Russia’s population shrinking by the millions since 1999 and elections turning to a mass fraud.
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Today we are only seven days away from 2012. What has changed you ask? Plenty. Firstly, Russia no longer owes any financial institution money
(sj, 24 December 2011 00:05)

Oh, my dear, you can’t be more wrong. I think your Malaysian friend provided you wrong information again (after the wrong info regarding the issuance of Russian passports for K. Serbs). As of June 2011 Russia had an external debt of about USD 538 billion.
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the US is now 15.1 trillion in debt
(sj, 24 December 2011 00:05)

Actually, it is more – US’ external debt is about 22+ trillion… but it also has about 20+ trillion in foreign assets. Since the average interest rate that US pays on external liabilities is lower than the average interest rate the US receives on external assets, the US has a net financial income from the rest of the world even though its net financial position with the rest of the world is negative. For example, in 2011 Q3 the receipts from external assets exceeded payments on external liabilities by 58+ billion.

So, unfortunately, the Yankees are being smart; they are borrowing from the world at low rates and lending back to the world at higher rates, and getting a profit from the whole thing.
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Kosovo is not independent as its not recognized by the UN
(sj, 24 December 2011 00:05)

Mate, that Kosovo is independent from Serbia, that’s beyond dispute – even Serbia admits that. The only thing that is in dispute is whether Kosovo is independent from UN/EU/ELEX/KFOR/US/Devil; but I don’t think that is something to lose the sleep about. All Albanians cared about was to be independent from Serbia; as for Kosovo still being dependent from some other entity – let’s assume it is so and everybody is happy; we don’t have to argue as nobody cares about it.

As for the UN, Kosovo (or any other country) has not and will never be recognized by the UN, unless the UN charter changes because the current one does not give the power to the UN to recognize anything.
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nor is it accepted by the upcoming economic giants of Brazil, India, Russia and China – they are the ones you need on your side.
(sj, 24 December 2011 00:05)

Sure, when the citizens of those superpowers are no longer impoverished (i.e. earning a fraction of the earnings of the citizens of the Western countries) Kosovo will need their recognition. Let’s speak again in few hundred years; let’s hope that by then the citizens of the BRIC live much better than they do now and that they also manage to move the location of their countries closer to Serbia :)
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because the 80 of so that “recognize” Kosovo will withdraw their recognition at the drop of a hat if pressured by these powers
(sj, 24 December 2011 00:05)

So, these powers are not supporting Serbia when all it takes is the drop of a hat ? What are they waiting to do it ?! It is so easy for them to help Serbia if they have the will :)
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There is no need for violence as Kosovo will crumble to pieces and no one dares to touch the Serbs mate
(sj, 24 December 2011 00:05)

Who is trying to touch the Serbs and why ?! Serbs are strong supporters of 1244 and have not declared any desire to be independent from Kosovo.
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KFOR look like its taking down barricades while the Serbs build new ones – is there no message here for you?????
(sj, 24 December 2011 00:05)

Of course, the message is that somebody is determined to make difficult the lives of Serbs when it comes to freedom of movement to Serbia and vice versa.
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considering cave dwellers in Afghanistan are thrashing them to a standstill.
(sj, 24 December 2011 00:05)

You mean cave dwellers like the one who is reposing in peace at the bottom of the ocean :)
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Why do you think the Russian Ambassador is in Kosovo??? What? For his health pr maybe to og to a spa?
(sj, 24 December 2011 00:05)

No, he wanted to pass some time outside in the cold … I think he learned the lesson :) Next time he’ll make sure to check the weather forecast.
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Happy New Year, boys LOL.
(sj, 24 December 2011 00:05)

Happy New Year to you too and please let us know when the US will collapse as I have invested to gain when that happens. Unfortunately it did not happen last year as we were all expecting based on your brilliant research and, what is even more concerning is that based on your research it’s not going to happen even in 2012. Hopefully your future research brings us some good news about a faster collapse of the US so I can realize my gain.
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now let go over that again; the Albanians were tortured and murdered by Serbs but they are willing g to work for them as if nothing happened!!!! Is it me or does this sound very funny??????
(sj, 24 December 2011 00:05)

Of course, the Albanians and the world don’t live in the memories of 600+ years battles otherwise they will have the same fate of Serbia. What happened, happened – that can’t be undone. People (except Serbs) look to the present and the future.

sj

pre 12 godina

(passing by, 23 December 2011 13:35)
Firstly if you have not been told yet let me just say that we are about to enter 2012 and that we are no longer in 1999. The Russia of 1999 was a nation on its knees where it could not feed it own troops in Russia let alone sustain military presence in Kosovo. Its military officers had to work a second job to keep bread on the table for their families, poverty was rife throughout Russia and the US would not allow IMF loans if Russia did not agree to bomb Serbia.
Today we are only seven days away from 2012. What has changed you ask? Plenty. Firstly, Russia no longer owes any financial institution money – it has about 500 billion in foreign currency in reserves plus just as much in gold reserves in Swiss banks and more in Russia itself. Only 8 days ago the Russians loaned the EU 250 billion and the Chinese 300 billion. On the other hand the US/EU of 1999 are the complete the reverse today – the US is now 15.1 trillion in debt while the EU is falling apart before our very eyes. Now pour yourself a whiskey drink it slowly and read this paragraph carefully and let these facts sink in.
“Einstein once defined INSANITY as a process of doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results”.
I am not locked into 1999, but you Albanians certainly are. So I’d question you sanity as you guys seem to be going around and around in a circle and proclaiming that you are moving forward. Kosovo is not independent as its not recognized by the UN nor is it accepted by the upcoming economic giants of Brazil, India, Russia and China – they are the ones you need on your side because the 80 of so that “recognize” Kosovo will withdraw their recognition at the drop of a hat if pressured by these powers.
If you don’t understand what is going on let me draw a picture for you. No one wants to change the situation in Kosovo as its most advantageous to keep the pot boiling. You see the EU/US want to break this hold before the recession deepens early next year, but the Serbs with their friends will not let it happen so sooner or later BOOOOOM! You Albanians will target the US and EU.

If you are dreaming that Russia will come to your rescue for northern Mitro, you are mistaken big time.
(Kosova-USA, 23 December 2011 12:24)

My dear fellow if you did not know, they are they are already there, plus others. There is no need for violence as Kosovo will crumble to pieces and no one dares to touch the Serbs mate. Very early in 2012, the EU is heading straight for a DEEP RECESSION and that will take the US into a DEEPER DEPRESSION – you can work out the rest.
KFOR look like its taking down barricades while the Serbs build new ones – is there no message here for you????? The “world’s most powerful military, NATO” sitting and twiddling their thumbs while unarmed Serbs make them look like idiots, but maybe they are, considering cave dwellers in Afghanistan are thrashing them to a standstill. I hear that the US has made another blunder with killing non combatants. Where are those superior weapons?????? I wonder if they are going take out of retirement the satellites which Madeline Albright said pin pointed the graves where Serbs buried the Srebrenica “victims”????? Surely they could see the insurgents in Afghanistan.
Why do you think the Russian Ambassador is in Kosovo??? What? For his health pr maybe to og to a spa?
Happy New Year, boys LOL.

If one thinks that Milosevic did good by signing 1244 or Russia helped then, BETTER THINK AGAIN.
(International lawyer, 23 December 2011 14:17)
If it has not dawned on you yet then here it is. Might is Right and no amount of 1244 is going to do this or that particularly since Merkel let the cat out of the bag that she wants Serbia to allow Albanians to look for work in Serbia – now let go over that again; the Albanians were tortured and murdered by Serbs but they are willing g to work for them as if nothing happened!!!! Is it me or does this sound very funny??????
The west is sinking and the east is rising so that 1244 agreement will be only good for one thing mate and I hope it’s very soft paper.
sj try living in reality they never before asked Russia for permission. When they bombed Serbs or separated Kosovo or sign a peace according to their terms. Russia uses Serbs to no end to take off the gaze off its wrongdoing and all the KGB Kremlin murderous aggression ,antidemocraticy in Russia by KGB Kremlin also bullying of its close neighbours. Gee KGB Kremlin sounds a lot like Grater Belgrade Serbia evil wickedness. I guess bird of a feather do flock together and you both have a deformed double headed Eagle to represent you coincidences hum.
(Lenard, 23 December 2011 19:51)

Once the new government in Croatia is sworn in then it will be under the control of Serbs. Watch as the situation changes, but this time we will have Croatia in financial chains and it will have to do as Belgrade wishes.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

Why does the will of the people mean simple majority?
(aaayyy, 23 December 2011 17:03)

welcome to the Earth dear aaayyy ! where were you until now ? In Mars ?
(icj1, 23 December 2011 22:08)

I am talking about Switzerland practice, I am not aware of Mars practice.

icj1

pre 12 godina

Why does the will of the people mean simple majority?
(aaayyy, 23 December 2011 17:03)

welcome to the Earth dear aaayyy ! where were you until now ? In Mars ?

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

Engineer,

Once I asked a man from Switzerland how comes more populated German cantons don't supress other cantons. He answered that the most important decisions are made only if they are supported by the majorities of ALL Switzerland ethnic communities.

Lenard

pre 12 godina

The Serbs will never allow the Albanians to separate Kosovo from Serbia and KFOR or whoever will never be allowed to take action against the Serbs for fear it could escalate and play right into the hands of Russia.
(sj, 23 December 2011 10:25) sj try living in reality they never before asked Russia for permission. When they bombed Serbs or separated Kosovo or sign a peace according to their terms. Russia uses Serbs to no end to take off the gaze off its wrongdoing and all the KGB Kremlin murderous aggression ,antidemocraticy in Russia by KGB Kremlin also bullying of its close neighbours. Gee KGB Kremlin sounds a lot like Grater Belgrade Serbia evil wickedness. I guess bird of a feather do flock together and you both have a deformed double headed Eagle to represent you coincidences hum.

Engineer

pre 12 godina

ON THE BASIS OF THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE
(International lawyer, 23 December 2011 14:17)

Why does the will of the people mean simple majority?
Was Kosovo Serbian community asked?
Kosovo Serbian community should have veto power over such important decision as independence.
(aaayyy, 23 December 2011 17:03)


Why should they have Veto power? Are Serbians more special than rest of inhabitants do you know what you are asking? So also Albanians should have Veto to be part of Serbia.

In the world only way to solve issues to have a vote on that territory and Majority rules, otherwise what kind of society will we live where some people have special rights, and we are speaking 50,000 people.

And this is agrement that Serbia signed so if you did not like the document why did they sign it?

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

ON THE BASIS OF THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE
(International lawyer, 23 December 2011 14:17)

Why does the will of the people mean simple majority?
Was Kosovo Serbian community asked?
Kosovo Serbian community should have veto power over such important decision as independence.

metrod

pre 12 godina

International lawyer,
Clear, concise and to the point. Now, if would be nice if we could get everyone to print what you just wrote, frame it and hang it somewhere so everytime they want to inject 1244 they have it there as a quick reference.

Santa came early this year.

Marko

pre 12 godina

EULEX, KFOR, NATO are full of p… and wind. The barricades will not be removed at all. I wish these people would stop crapping on about this issue.
Let’s face reality here. The Serbs will never allow the Albanians to separate Kosovo from Serbia and KFOR or whoever will never be allowed to take action against the Serbs for fear it could escalate and play right into the hands of Russia.
(sj, 23 December 2011 10:25)

If you are dreaming that Russia will come to your rescue for northern Mitro, you are mistaken big time.
(Kosova-USA, 23 December 2011 12:24)

No we aren't talking about northern Mitro, we are talking about all of Kosovo. It will always be Serbian. Live with it. Or pay the consequence once again.

International lawyer

pre 12 godina

The Res. 1244 allows Kosovo even without ICJ judgment (that went in Kosovo favour) to get independence. The culprits for Res 1244 signing (and agreement) are Russia and Serbia.

Now, Russia COULD prevent Kosovo to be a full member of the UN but can do nothing else. Russia CAN NOT prevent Kosovo to join UN as an observer just like the Vatican for example. Kosovo NEEDS only another 12-15 recognitions to be JOIN the UN as an Observer state/country. RECALL that former Yugoslavia was not a UN member in 1999 and only recently joined the UN as Serbia and Montenegro and later each independently. Does that mean that since 1991, Serbia and Montenegro union (or Yugoslavia) was not a state? If you think so then NATO in 1999 has conducted an intervention NOT in a "sovereign state", but in an undefined territory known as Yugoslavia. So according to this logic there was no aggression to an UN recognised state, but an intervention for humanitarian cause in an undefined (non UN member state) territory known as Yugoslavia.

WHY the RES. 1244 favours Kosovo Albanians?
The Res. 1244 appears clearly to show that at the end of this process THE WILL of the people of Kosovo will be considered the key consideration for the final status solution. Recall (Section 11 (e)) of resolution 1244, says

"Facilitating a political process designed to determine Kosovo's future status, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE RAMBOUILLET ACCORDS (S/1999/648);"

Then Chap. 8, Art. 1(3). of Rambouillet accord (which Res 1244, Section 11 (e) is refered to) says

"Three years after the entry into force of this Agreement, an international meeting shall be convened to determine a mechanism for a final settlement for Kosovo, ON THE BASIS OF THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE, opinions of relevant authorities, each Party's efforts regarding the implementation of this Agreement, and the Helsinki Final Act, and to undertake a comprehensive assessment of the implementation of this Agreement and to consider proposals by any Party for additional measures."


THESE ARE FACTS and anyone can prove this. No wonder ICJ gave the judgment they gave.

If one thinks that Milosevic did good by signing 1244 or Russia helped then, BETTER THINK AGAIN.

passing by

pre 12 godina

KFOR or whoever will never be allowed to take action against the Serbs for fear it could escalate and play right into the hands of Russia.
(sj, 23 December 2011 10:25)

It is not healthy to keep on dreaming with eyes open. Russia helped Serbia in 1999 with words BUT NO ACTION. Russian troops left Kosovo in 2003 unable to feed its troops, and what on earth makes you think different now.

Einstein once defined INSANITY as a process of doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

KOsovo is independent and 1244 allowed it to be.

PRO-SERBIA

pre 12 godina

Mr. de Marnhac!As soon as possible?? hahaahhaah The Serbian people will never listen to your crap.

The Serbs knows EULEX is not status neutral and clearly siding with the separatists in pristina.

winston

pre 12 godina

De Marnhac, like all other EU officials, says a lot of words but says nothing. They never give a direct response - notably, "we are in line with our mandate". BS, you are instructed to promote Pristina's authority in N. KiM through the back door. How appropriate for you guys. I hope the Serbs never romove these barricades, if only to give you a piece of dust in your greedy and corrupt EU eyes.

Kosova-USA

pre 12 godina

EULEX, KFOR, NATO are full of p… and wind. The barricades will not be removed at all. I wish these people would stop crapping on about this issue.
Let’s face reality here. The Serbs will never allow the Albanians to separate Kosovo from Serbia and KFOR or whoever will never be allowed to take action against the Serbs for fear it could escalate and play right into the hands of Russia.
(sj, 23 December 2011 10:25)

If you are dreaming that Russia will come to your rescue for northern Mitro, you are mistaken big time.

sj

pre 12 godina

EULEX, KFOR, NATO are full of p… and wind. The barricades will not be removed at all. I wish these people would stop crapping on about this issue.
Let’s face reality here. The Serbs will never allow the Albanians to separate Kosovo from Serbia and KFOR or whoever will never be allowed to take action against the Serbs for fear it could escalate and play right into the hands of Russia.

International lawyer

pre 12 godina

The Res. 1244 allows Kosovo even without ICJ judgment (that went in Kosovo favour) to get independence. The culprits for Res 1244 signing (and agreement) are Russia and Serbia.

Now, Russia COULD prevent Kosovo to be a full member of the UN but can do nothing else. Russia CAN NOT prevent Kosovo to join UN as an observer just like the Vatican for example. Kosovo NEEDS only another 12-15 recognitions to be JOIN the UN as an Observer state/country. RECALL that former Yugoslavia was not a UN member in 1999 and only recently joined the UN as Serbia and Montenegro and later each independently. Does that mean that since 1991, Serbia and Montenegro union (or Yugoslavia) was not a state? If you think so then NATO in 1999 has conducted an intervention NOT in a "sovereign state", but in an undefined territory known as Yugoslavia. So according to this logic there was no aggression to an UN recognised state, but an intervention for humanitarian cause in an undefined (non UN member state) territory known as Yugoslavia.

WHY the RES. 1244 favours Kosovo Albanians?
The Res. 1244 appears clearly to show that at the end of this process THE WILL of the people of Kosovo will be considered the key consideration for the final status solution. Recall (Section 11 (e)) of resolution 1244, says

"Facilitating a political process designed to determine Kosovo's future status, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE RAMBOUILLET ACCORDS (S/1999/648);"

Then Chap. 8, Art. 1(3). of Rambouillet accord (which Res 1244, Section 11 (e) is refered to) says

"Three years after the entry into force of this Agreement, an international meeting shall be convened to determine a mechanism for a final settlement for Kosovo, ON THE BASIS OF THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE, opinions of relevant authorities, each Party's efforts regarding the implementation of this Agreement, and the Helsinki Final Act, and to undertake a comprehensive assessment of the implementation of this Agreement and to consider proposals by any Party for additional measures."


THESE ARE FACTS and anyone can prove this. No wonder ICJ gave the judgment they gave.

If one thinks that Milosevic did good by signing 1244 or Russia helped then, BETTER THINK AGAIN.

sj

pre 12 godina

EULEX, KFOR, NATO are full of p… and wind. The barricades will not be removed at all. I wish these people would stop crapping on about this issue.
Let’s face reality here. The Serbs will never allow the Albanians to separate Kosovo from Serbia and KFOR or whoever will never be allowed to take action against the Serbs for fear it could escalate and play right into the hands of Russia.

Kosova-USA

pre 12 godina

EULEX, KFOR, NATO are full of p… and wind. The barricades will not be removed at all. I wish these people would stop crapping on about this issue.
Let’s face reality here. The Serbs will never allow the Albanians to separate Kosovo from Serbia and KFOR or whoever will never be allowed to take action against the Serbs for fear it could escalate and play right into the hands of Russia.
(sj, 23 December 2011 10:25)

If you are dreaming that Russia will come to your rescue for northern Mitro, you are mistaken big time.

PRO-SERBIA

pre 12 godina

Mr. de Marnhac!As soon as possible?? hahaahhaah The Serbian people will never listen to your crap.

The Serbs knows EULEX is not status neutral and clearly siding with the separatists in pristina.

winston

pre 12 godina

De Marnhac, like all other EU officials, says a lot of words but says nothing. They never give a direct response - notably, "we are in line with our mandate". BS, you are instructed to promote Pristina's authority in N. KiM through the back door. How appropriate for you guys. I hope the Serbs never romove these barricades, if only to give you a piece of dust in your greedy and corrupt EU eyes.

passing by

pre 12 godina

KFOR or whoever will never be allowed to take action against the Serbs for fear it could escalate and play right into the hands of Russia.
(sj, 23 December 2011 10:25)

It is not healthy to keep on dreaming with eyes open. Russia helped Serbia in 1999 with words BUT NO ACTION. Russian troops left Kosovo in 2003 unable to feed its troops, and what on earth makes you think different now.

Einstein once defined INSANITY as a process of doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

KOsovo is independent and 1244 allowed it to be.

Marko

pre 12 godina

EULEX, KFOR, NATO are full of p… and wind. The barricades will not be removed at all. I wish these people would stop crapping on about this issue.
Let’s face reality here. The Serbs will never allow the Albanians to separate Kosovo from Serbia and KFOR or whoever will never be allowed to take action against the Serbs for fear it could escalate and play right into the hands of Russia.
(sj, 23 December 2011 10:25)

If you are dreaming that Russia will come to your rescue for northern Mitro, you are mistaken big time.
(Kosova-USA, 23 December 2011 12:24)

No we aren't talking about northern Mitro, we are talking about all of Kosovo. It will always be Serbian. Live with it. Or pay the consequence once again.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

ON THE BASIS OF THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE
(International lawyer, 23 December 2011 14:17)

Why does the will of the people mean simple majority?
Was Kosovo Serbian community asked?
Kosovo Serbian community should have veto power over such important decision as independence.

metrod

pre 12 godina

International lawyer,
Clear, concise and to the point. Now, if would be nice if we could get everyone to print what you just wrote, frame it and hang it somewhere so everytime they want to inject 1244 they have it there as a quick reference.

Santa came early this year.

Lenard

pre 12 godina

The Serbs will never allow the Albanians to separate Kosovo from Serbia and KFOR or whoever will never be allowed to take action against the Serbs for fear it could escalate and play right into the hands of Russia.
(sj, 23 December 2011 10:25) sj try living in reality they never before asked Russia for permission. When they bombed Serbs or separated Kosovo or sign a peace according to their terms. Russia uses Serbs to no end to take off the gaze off its wrongdoing and all the KGB Kremlin murderous aggression ,antidemocraticy in Russia by KGB Kremlin also bullying of its close neighbours. Gee KGB Kremlin sounds a lot like Grater Belgrade Serbia evil wickedness. I guess bird of a feather do flock together and you both have a deformed double headed Eagle to represent you coincidences hum.

sj

pre 12 godina

(passing by, 23 December 2011 13:35)
Firstly if you have not been told yet let me just say that we are about to enter 2012 and that we are no longer in 1999. The Russia of 1999 was a nation on its knees where it could not feed it own troops in Russia let alone sustain military presence in Kosovo. Its military officers had to work a second job to keep bread on the table for their families, poverty was rife throughout Russia and the US would not allow IMF loans if Russia did not agree to bomb Serbia.
Today we are only seven days away from 2012. What has changed you ask? Plenty. Firstly, Russia no longer owes any financial institution money – it has about 500 billion in foreign currency in reserves plus just as much in gold reserves in Swiss banks and more in Russia itself. Only 8 days ago the Russians loaned the EU 250 billion and the Chinese 300 billion. On the other hand the US/EU of 1999 are the complete the reverse today – the US is now 15.1 trillion in debt while the EU is falling apart before our very eyes. Now pour yourself a whiskey drink it slowly and read this paragraph carefully and let these facts sink in.
“Einstein once defined INSANITY as a process of doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results”.
I am not locked into 1999, but you Albanians certainly are. So I’d question you sanity as you guys seem to be going around and around in a circle and proclaiming that you are moving forward. Kosovo is not independent as its not recognized by the UN nor is it accepted by the upcoming economic giants of Brazil, India, Russia and China – they are the ones you need on your side because the 80 of so that “recognize” Kosovo will withdraw their recognition at the drop of a hat if pressured by these powers.
If you don’t understand what is going on let me draw a picture for you. No one wants to change the situation in Kosovo as its most advantageous to keep the pot boiling. You see the EU/US want to break this hold before the recession deepens early next year, but the Serbs with their friends will not let it happen so sooner or later BOOOOOM! You Albanians will target the US and EU.

If you are dreaming that Russia will come to your rescue for northern Mitro, you are mistaken big time.
(Kosova-USA, 23 December 2011 12:24)

My dear fellow if you did not know, they are they are already there, plus others. There is no need for violence as Kosovo will crumble to pieces and no one dares to touch the Serbs mate. Very early in 2012, the EU is heading straight for a DEEP RECESSION and that will take the US into a DEEPER DEPRESSION – you can work out the rest.
KFOR look like its taking down barricades while the Serbs build new ones – is there no message here for you????? The “world’s most powerful military, NATO” sitting and twiddling their thumbs while unarmed Serbs make them look like idiots, but maybe they are, considering cave dwellers in Afghanistan are thrashing them to a standstill. I hear that the US has made another blunder with killing non combatants. Where are those superior weapons?????? I wonder if they are going take out of retirement the satellites which Madeline Albright said pin pointed the graves where Serbs buried the Srebrenica “victims”????? Surely they could see the insurgents in Afghanistan.
Why do you think the Russian Ambassador is in Kosovo??? What? For his health pr maybe to og to a spa?
Happy New Year, boys LOL.

If one thinks that Milosevic did good by signing 1244 or Russia helped then, BETTER THINK AGAIN.
(International lawyer, 23 December 2011 14:17)
If it has not dawned on you yet then here it is. Might is Right and no amount of 1244 is going to do this or that particularly since Merkel let the cat out of the bag that she wants Serbia to allow Albanians to look for work in Serbia – now let go over that again; the Albanians were tortured and murdered by Serbs but they are willing g to work for them as if nothing happened!!!! Is it me or does this sound very funny??????
The west is sinking and the east is rising so that 1244 agreement will be only good for one thing mate and I hope it’s very soft paper.
sj try living in reality they never before asked Russia for permission. When they bombed Serbs or separated Kosovo or sign a peace according to their terms. Russia uses Serbs to no end to take off the gaze off its wrongdoing and all the KGB Kremlin murderous aggression ,antidemocraticy in Russia by KGB Kremlin also bullying of its close neighbours. Gee KGB Kremlin sounds a lot like Grater Belgrade Serbia evil wickedness. I guess bird of a feather do flock together and you both have a deformed double headed Eagle to represent you coincidences hum.
(Lenard, 23 December 2011 19:51)

Once the new government in Croatia is sworn in then it will be under the control of Serbs. Watch as the situation changes, but this time we will have Croatia in financial chains and it will have to do as Belgrade wishes.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

Engineer,

Once I asked a man from Switzerland how comes more populated German cantons don't supress other cantons. He answered that the most important decisions are made only if they are supported by the majorities of ALL Switzerland ethnic communities.

Engineer

pre 12 godina

ON THE BASIS OF THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE
(International lawyer, 23 December 2011 14:17)

Why does the will of the people mean simple majority?
Was Kosovo Serbian community asked?
Kosovo Serbian community should have veto power over such important decision as independence.
(aaayyy, 23 December 2011 17:03)


Why should they have Veto power? Are Serbians more special than rest of inhabitants do you know what you are asking? So also Albanians should have Veto to be part of Serbia.

In the world only way to solve issues to have a vote on that territory and Majority rules, otherwise what kind of society will we live where some people have special rights, and we are speaking 50,000 people.

And this is agrement that Serbia signed so if you did not like the document why did they sign it?

icj1

pre 12 godina

Why does the will of the people mean simple majority?
(aaayyy, 23 December 2011 17:03)

welcome to the Earth dear aaayyy ! where were you until now ? In Mars ?

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

Why does the will of the people mean simple majority?
(aaayyy, 23 December 2011 17:03)

welcome to the Earth dear aaayyy ! where were you until now ? In Mars ?
(icj1, 23 December 2011 22:08)

I am talking about Switzerland practice, I am not aware of Mars practice.

icj1

pre 12 godina

The Russia of 1999 was a nation on its knees
(sj, 24 December 2011 00:05)

Yeah, and unfortunately it is even worse today with the Russia’s population shrinking by the millions since 1999 and elections turning to a mass fraud.
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Today we are only seven days away from 2012. What has changed you ask? Plenty. Firstly, Russia no longer owes any financial institution money
(sj, 24 December 2011 00:05)

Oh, my dear, you can’t be more wrong. I think your Malaysian friend provided you wrong information again (after the wrong info regarding the issuance of Russian passports for K. Serbs). As of June 2011 Russia had an external debt of about USD 538 billion.
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the US is now 15.1 trillion in debt
(sj, 24 December 2011 00:05)

Actually, it is more – US’ external debt is about 22+ trillion… but it also has about 20+ trillion in foreign assets. Since the average interest rate that US pays on external liabilities is lower than the average interest rate the US receives on external assets, the US has a net financial income from the rest of the world even though its net financial position with the rest of the world is negative. For example, in 2011 Q3 the receipts from external assets exceeded payments on external liabilities by 58+ billion.

So, unfortunately, the Yankees are being smart; they are borrowing from the world at low rates and lending back to the world at higher rates, and getting a profit from the whole thing.
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Kosovo is not independent as its not recognized by the UN
(sj, 24 December 2011 00:05)

Mate, that Kosovo is independent from Serbia, that’s beyond dispute – even Serbia admits that. The only thing that is in dispute is whether Kosovo is independent from UN/EU/ELEX/KFOR/US/Devil; but I don’t think that is something to lose the sleep about. All Albanians cared about was to be independent from Serbia; as for Kosovo still being dependent from some other entity – let’s assume it is so and everybody is happy; we don’t have to argue as nobody cares about it.

As for the UN, Kosovo (or any other country) has not and will never be recognized by the UN, unless the UN charter changes because the current one does not give the power to the UN to recognize anything.
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nor is it accepted by the upcoming economic giants of Brazil, India, Russia and China – they are the ones you need on your side.
(sj, 24 December 2011 00:05)

Sure, when the citizens of those superpowers are no longer impoverished (i.e. earning a fraction of the earnings of the citizens of the Western countries) Kosovo will need their recognition. Let’s speak again in few hundred years; let’s hope that by then the citizens of the BRIC live much better than they do now and that they also manage to move the location of their countries closer to Serbia :)
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because the 80 of so that “recognize” Kosovo will withdraw their recognition at the drop of a hat if pressured by these powers
(sj, 24 December 2011 00:05)

So, these powers are not supporting Serbia when all it takes is the drop of a hat ? What are they waiting to do it ?! It is so easy for them to help Serbia if they have the will :)
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There is no need for violence as Kosovo will crumble to pieces and no one dares to touch the Serbs mate
(sj, 24 December 2011 00:05)

Who is trying to touch the Serbs and why ?! Serbs are strong supporters of 1244 and have not declared any desire to be independent from Kosovo.
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KFOR look like its taking down barricades while the Serbs build new ones – is there no message here for you?????
(sj, 24 December 2011 00:05)

Of course, the message is that somebody is determined to make difficult the lives of Serbs when it comes to freedom of movement to Serbia and vice versa.
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considering cave dwellers in Afghanistan are thrashing them to a standstill.
(sj, 24 December 2011 00:05)

You mean cave dwellers like the one who is reposing in peace at the bottom of the ocean :)
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Why do you think the Russian Ambassador is in Kosovo??? What? For his health pr maybe to og to a spa?
(sj, 24 December 2011 00:05)

No, he wanted to pass some time outside in the cold … I think he learned the lesson :) Next time he’ll make sure to check the weather forecast.
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Happy New Year, boys LOL.
(sj, 24 December 2011 00:05)

Happy New Year to you too and please let us know when the US will collapse as I have invested to gain when that happens. Unfortunately it did not happen last year as we were all expecting based on your brilliant research and, what is even more concerning is that based on your research it’s not going to happen even in 2012. Hopefully your future research brings us some good news about a faster collapse of the US so I can realize my gain.
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now let go over that again; the Albanians were tortured and murdered by Serbs but they are willing g to work for them as if nothing happened!!!! Is it me or does this sound very funny??????
(sj, 24 December 2011 00:05)

Of course, the Albanians and the world don’t live in the memories of 600+ years battles otherwise they will have the same fate of Serbia. What happened, happened – that can’t be undone. People (except Serbs) look to the present and the future.

sj

pre 12 godina

EULEX, KFOR, NATO are full of p… and wind. The barricades will not be removed at all. I wish these people would stop crapping on about this issue.
Let’s face reality here. The Serbs will never allow the Albanians to separate Kosovo from Serbia and KFOR or whoever will never be allowed to take action against the Serbs for fear it could escalate and play right into the hands of Russia.

PRO-SERBIA

pre 12 godina

Mr. de Marnhac!As soon as possible?? hahaahhaah The Serbian people will never listen to your crap.

The Serbs knows EULEX is not status neutral and clearly siding with the separatists in pristina.

Kosova-USA

pre 12 godina

EULEX, KFOR, NATO are full of p… and wind. The barricades will not be removed at all. I wish these people would stop crapping on about this issue.
Let’s face reality here. The Serbs will never allow the Albanians to separate Kosovo from Serbia and KFOR or whoever will never be allowed to take action against the Serbs for fear it could escalate and play right into the hands of Russia.
(sj, 23 December 2011 10:25)

If you are dreaming that Russia will come to your rescue for northern Mitro, you are mistaken big time.

passing by

pre 12 godina

KFOR or whoever will never be allowed to take action against the Serbs for fear it could escalate and play right into the hands of Russia.
(sj, 23 December 2011 10:25)

It is not healthy to keep on dreaming with eyes open. Russia helped Serbia in 1999 with words BUT NO ACTION. Russian troops left Kosovo in 2003 unable to feed its troops, and what on earth makes you think different now.

Einstein once defined INSANITY as a process of doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

KOsovo is independent and 1244 allowed it to be.

winston

pre 12 godina

De Marnhac, like all other EU officials, says a lot of words but says nothing. They never give a direct response - notably, "we are in line with our mandate". BS, you are instructed to promote Pristina's authority in N. KiM through the back door. How appropriate for you guys. I hope the Serbs never romove these barricades, if only to give you a piece of dust in your greedy and corrupt EU eyes.

International lawyer

pre 12 godina

The Res. 1244 allows Kosovo even without ICJ judgment (that went in Kosovo favour) to get independence. The culprits for Res 1244 signing (and agreement) are Russia and Serbia.

Now, Russia COULD prevent Kosovo to be a full member of the UN but can do nothing else. Russia CAN NOT prevent Kosovo to join UN as an observer just like the Vatican for example. Kosovo NEEDS only another 12-15 recognitions to be JOIN the UN as an Observer state/country. RECALL that former Yugoslavia was not a UN member in 1999 and only recently joined the UN as Serbia and Montenegro and later each independently. Does that mean that since 1991, Serbia and Montenegro union (or Yugoslavia) was not a state? If you think so then NATO in 1999 has conducted an intervention NOT in a "sovereign state", but in an undefined territory known as Yugoslavia. So according to this logic there was no aggression to an UN recognised state, but an intervention for humanitarian cause in an undefined (non UN member state) territory known as Yugoslavia.

WHY the RES. 1244 favours Kosovo Albanians?
The Res. 1244 appears clearly to show that at the end of this process THE WILL of the people of Kosovo will be considered the key consideration for the final status solution. Recall (Section 11 (e)) of resolution 1244, says

"Facilitating a political process designed to determine Kosovo's future status, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE RAMBOUILLET ACCORDS (S/1999/648);"

Then Chap. 8, Art. 1(3). of Rambouillet accord (which Res 1244, Section 11 (e) is refered to) says

"Three years after the entry into force of this Agreement, an international meeting shall be convened to determine a mechanism for a final settlement for Kosovo, ON THE BASIS OF THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE, opinions of relevant authorities, each Party's efforts regarding the implementation of this Agreement, and the Helsinki Final Act, and to undertake a comprehensive assessment of the implementation of this Agreement and to consider proposals by any Party for additional measures."


THESE ARE FACTS and anyone can prove this. No wonder ICJ gave the judgment they gave.

If one thinks that Milosevic did good by signing 1244 or Russia helped then, BETTER THINK AGAIN.

Lenard

pre 12 godina

The Serbs will never allow the Albanians to separate Kosovo from Serbia and KFOR or whoever will never be allowed to take action against the Serbs for fear it could escalate and play right into the hands of Russia.
(sj, 23 December 2011 10:25) sj try living in reality they never before asked Russia for permission. When they bombed Serbs or separated Kosovo or sign a peace according to their terms. Russia uses Serbs to no end to take off the gaze off its wrongdoing and all the KGB Kremlin murderous aggression ,antidemocraticy in Russia by KGB Kremlin also bullying of its close neighbours. Gee KGB Kremlin sounds a lot like Grater Belgrade Serbia evil wickedness. I guess bird of a feather do flock together and you both have a deformed double headed Eagle to represent you coincidences hum.

Engineer

pre 12 godina

ON THE BASIS OF THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE
(International lawyer, 23 December 2011 14:17)

Why does the will of the people mean simple majority?
Was Kosovo Serbian community asked?
Kosovo Serbian community should have veto power over such important decision as independence.
(aaayyy, 23 December 2011 17:03)


Why should they have Veto power? Are Serbians more special than rest of inhabitants do you know what you are asking? So also Albanians should have Veto to be part of Serbia.

In the world only way to solve issues to have a vote on that territory and Majority rules, otherwise what kind of society will we live where some people have special rights, and we are speaking 50,000 people.

And this is agrement that Serbia signed so if you did not like the document why did they sign it?

Marko

pre 12 godina

EULEX, KFOR, NATO are full of p… and wind. The barricades will not be removed at all. I wish these people would stop crapping on about this issue.
Let’s face reality here. The Serbs will never allow the Albanians to separate Kosovo from Serbia and KFOR or whoever will never be allowed to take action against the Serbs for fear it could escalate and play right into the hands of Russia.
(sj, 23 December 2011 10:25)

If you are dreaming that Russia will come to your rescue for northern Mitro, you are mistaken big time.
(Kosova-USA, 23 December 2011 12:24)

No we aren't talking about northern Mitro, we are talking about all of Kosovo. It will always be Serbian. Live with it. Or pay the consequence once again.

metrod

pre 12 godina

International lawyer,
Clear, concise and to the point. Now, if would be nice if we could get everyone to print what you just wrote, frame it and hang it somewhere so everytime they want to inject 1244 they have it there as a quick reference.

Santa came early this year.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

ON THE BASIS OF THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE
(International lawyer, 23 December 2011 14:17)

Why does the will of the people mean simple majority?
Was Kosovo Serbian community asked?
Kosovo Serbian community should have veto power over such important decision as independence.

sj

pre 12 godina

(passing by, 23 December 2011 13:35)
Firstly if you have not been told yet let me just say that we are about to enter 2012 and that we are no longer in 1999. The Russia of 1999 was a nation on its knees where it could not feed it own troops in Russia let alone sustain military presence in Kosovo. Its military officers had to work a second job to keep bread on the table for their families, poverty was rife throughout Russia and the US would not allow IMF loans if Russia did not agree to bomb Serbia.
Today we are only seven days away from 2012. What has changed you ask? Plenty. Firstly, Russia no longer owes any financial institution money – it has about 500 billion in foreign currency in reserves plus just as much in gold reserves in Swiss banks and more in Russia itself. Only 8 days ago the Russians loaned the EU 250 billion and the Chinese 300 billion. On the other hand the US/EU of 1999 are the complete the reverse today – the US is now 15.1 trillion in debt while the EU is falling apart before our very eyes. Now pour yourself a whiskey drink it slowly and read this paragraph carefully and let these facts sink in.
“Einstein once defined INSANITY as a process of doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results”.
I am not locked into 1999, but you Albanians certainly are. So I’d question you sanity as you guys seem to be going around and around in a circle and proclaiming that you are moving forward. Kosovo is not independent as its not recognized by the UN nor is it accepted by the upcoming economic giants of Brazil, India, Russia and China – they are the ones you need on your side because the 80 of so that “recognize” Kosovo will withdraw their recognition at the drop of a hat if pressured by these powers.
If you don’t understand what is going on let me draw a picture for you. No one wants to change the situation in Kosovo as its most advantageous to keep the pot boiling. You see the EU/US want to break this hold before the recession deepens early next year, but the Serbs with their friends will not let it happen so sooner or later BOOOOOM! You Albanians will target the US and EU.

If you are dreaming that Russia will come to your rescue for northern Mitro, you are mistaken big time.
(Kosova-USA, 23 December 2011 12:24)

My dear fellow if you did not know, they are they are already there, plus others. There is no need for violence as Kosovo will crumble to pieces and no one dares to touch the Serbs mate. Very early in 2012, the EU is heading straight for a DEEP RECESSION and that will take the US into a DEEPER DEPRESSION – you can work out the rest.
KFOR look like its taking down barricades while the Serbs build new ones – is there no message here for you????? The “world’s most powerful military, NATO” sitting and twiddling their thumbs while unarmed Serbs make them look like idiots, but maybe they are, considering cave dwellers in Afghanistan are thrashing them to a standstill. I hear that the US has made another blunder with killing non combatants. Where are those superior weapons?????? I wonder if they are going take out of retirement the satellites which Madeline Albright said pin pointed the graves where Serbs buried the Srebrenica “victims”????? Surely they could see the insurgents in Afghanistan.
Why do you think the Russian Ambassador is in Kosovo??? What? For his health pr maybe to og to a spa?
Happy New Year, boys LOL.

If one thinks that Milosevic did good by signing 1244 or Russia helped then, BETTER THINK AGAIN.
(International lawyer, 23 December 2011 14:17)
If it has not dawned on you yet then here it is. Might is Right and no amount of 1244 is going to do this or that particularly since Merkel let the cat out of the bag that she wants Serbia to allow Albanians to look for work in Serbia – now let go over that again; the Albanians were tortured and murdered by Serbs but they are willing g to work for them as if nothing happened!!!! Is it me or does this sound very funny??????
The west is sinking and the east is rising so that 1244 agreement will be only good for one thing mate and I hope it’s very soft paper.
sj try living in reality they never before asked Russia for permission. When they bombed Serbs or separated Kosovo or sign a peace according to their terms. Russia uses Serbs to no end to take off the gaze off its wrongdoing and all the KGB Kremlin murderous aggression ,antidemocraticy in Russia by KGB Kremlin also bullying of its close neighbours. Gee KGB Kremlin sounds a lot like Grater Belgrade Serbia evil wickedness. I guess bird of a feather do flock together and you both have a deformed double headed Eagle to represent you coincidences hum.
(Lenard, 23 December 2011 19:51)

Once the new government in Croatia is sworn in then it will be under the control of Serbs. Watch as the situation changes, but this time we will have Croatia in financial chains and it will have to do as Belgrade wishes.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

Engineer,

Once I asked a man from Switzerland how comes more populated German cantons don't supress other cantons. He answered that the most important decisions are made only if they are supported by the majorities of ALL Switzerland ethnic communities.

icj1

pre 12 godina

Why does the will of the people mean simple majority?
(aaayyy, 23 December 2011 17:03)

welcome to the Earth dear aaayyy ! where were you until now ? In Mars ?

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

Why does the will of the people mean simple majority?
(aaayyy, 23 December 2011 17:03)

welcome to the Earth dear aaayyy ! where were you until now ? In Mars ?
(icj1, 23 December 2011 22:08)

I am talking about Switzerland practice, I am not aware of Mars practice.

icj1

pre 12 godina

The Russia of 1999 was a nation on its knees
(sj, 24 December 2011 00:05)

Yeah, and unfortunately it is even worse today with the Russia’s population shrinking by the millions since 1999 and elections turning to a mass fraud.
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Today we are only seven days away from 2012. What has changed you ask? Plenty. Firstly, Russia no longer owes any financial institution money
(sj, 24 December 2011 00:05)

Oh, my dear, you can’t be more wrong. I think your Malaysian friend provided you wrong information again (after the wrong info regarding the issuance of Russian passports for K. Serbs). As of June 2011 Russia had an external debt of about USD 538 billion.
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the US is now 15.1 trillion in debt
(sj, 24 December 2011 00:05)

Actually, it is more – US’ external debt is about 22+ trillion… but it also has about 20+ trillion in foreign assets. Since the average interest rate that US pays on external liabilities is lower than the average interest rate the US receives on external assets, the US has a net financial income from the rest of the world even though its net financial position with the rest of the world is negative. For example, in 2011 Q3 the receipts from external assets exceeded payments on external liabilities by 58+ billion.

So, unfortunately, the Yankees are being smart; they are borrowing from the world at low rates and lending back to the world at higher rates, and getting a profit from the whole thing.
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Kosovo is not independent as its not recognized by the UN
(sj, 24 December 2011 00:05)

Mate, that Kosovo is independent from Serbia, that’s beyond dispute – even Serbia admits that. The only thing that is in dispute is whether Kosovo is independent from UN/EU/ELEX/KFOR/US/Devil; but I don’t think that is something to lose the sleep about. All Albanians cared about was to be independent from Serbia; as for Kosovo still being dependent from some other entity – let’s assume it is so and everybody is happy; we don’t have to argue as nobody cares about it.

As for the UN, Kosovo (or any other country) has not and will never be recognized by the UN, unless the UN charter changes because the current one does not give the power to the UN to recognize anything.
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nor is it accepted by the upcoming economic giants of Brazil, India, Russia and China – they are the ones you need on your side.
(sj, 24 December 2011 00:05)

Sure, when the citizens of those superpowers are no longer impoverished (i.e. earning a fraction of the earnings of the citizens of the Western countries) Kosovo will need their recognition. Let’s speak again in few hundred years; let’s hope that by then the citizens of the BRIC live much better than they do now and that they also manage to move the location of their countries closer to Serbia :)
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because the 80 of so that “recognize” Kosovo will withdraw their recognition at the drop of a hat if pressured by these powers
(sj, 24 December 2011 00:05)

So, these powers are not supporting Serbia when all it takes is the drop of a hat ? What are they waiting to do it ?! It is so easy for them to help Serbia if they have the will :)
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There is no need for violence as Kosovo will crumble to pieces and no one dares to touch the Serbs mate
(sj, 24 December 2011 00:05)

Who is trying to touch the Serbs and why ?! Serbs are strong supporters of 1244 and have not declared any desire to be independent from Kosovo.
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KFOR look like its taking down barricades while the Serbs build new ones – is there no message here for you?????
(sj, 24 December 2011 00:05)

Of course, the message is that somebody is determined to make difficult the lives of Serbs when it comes to freedom of movement to Serbia and vice versa.
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considering cave dwellers in Afghanistan are thrashing them to a standstill.
(sj, 24 December 2011 00:05)

You mean cave dwellers like the one who is reposing in peace at the bottom of the ocean :)
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Why do you think the Russian Ambassador is in Kosovo??? What? For his health pr maybe to og to a spa?
(sj, 24 December 2011 00:05)

No, he wanted to pass some time outside in the cold … I think he learned the lesson :) Next time he’ll make sure to check the weather forecast.
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Happy New Year, boys LOL.
(sj, 24 December 2011 00:05)

Happy New Year to you too and please let us know when the US will collapse as I have invested to gain when that happens. Unfortunately it did not happen last year as we were all expecting based on your brilliant research and, what is even more concerning is that based on your research it’s not going to happen even in 2012. Hopefully your future research brings us some good news about a faster collapse of the US so I can realize my gain.
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now let go over that again; the Albanians were tortured and murdered by Serbs but they are willing g to work for them as if nothing happened!!!! Is it me or does this sound very funny??????
(sj, 24 December 2011 00:05)

Of course, the Albanians and the world don’t live in the memories of 600+ years battles otherwise they will have the same fate of Serbia. What happened, happened – that can’t be undone. People (except Serbs) look to the present and the future.