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Monday, 19.12.2011.

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Bosnian mufti wants RS president declared persona non grata

The Islamic Community in Bosnia-Herzegovina will propose Muslim countries' ambassadors to deny hospitality to Republic of Srpska (RS) President Milorad Dodik.

Izvor: Tanjug

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sj

pre 12 godina

(Danilo, 21 December 2011 10:06)


There are bones all over that region; just look at the number of wars in the last 1000 years.

And as you are so convinced of this fact I imagine you were there testing that DNA. No, you just read it.

During that war people were being killed in large numbers and there are many mass graves because it was easier to bury them that way. Now every time one is uncovered the west proclaims it to be the Srebrenica victims. You should read the interview of the Srebrenica Bosnian police chief and then tell me how there are 8800 killed.

This man out lined how Alija Izetbegovic was desperate to stop the war and he said in front others that he would like to have a couple of thousand Bosnians killed using knives to force the Serbs into negotiations. The police chief is a Muslim not a Serb.

If the Serbs committed “genocide” why leave out the women and children. No one has answered that one yet.

Danilo

pre 12 godina

Sorry sj,

it's not "propaganda". They've found the bones. They attached names to them. Saying "it didn't happen", "the real number is 25" just doesn't wash anymore.

This question is answered and there's nothing you can contribute to it.

Saying it didn't happen now is like saying "there's no evolution and god put fossils on earth to test our faith"

Did god put those bones there to test your faith?

Because that's what you're discussing now - your faith.

sj

pre 12 godina

That's because it takes a long time to dig up all those bodies, those bodies mixed into three gravesites, and identify the remains.

It takes a lot longer than saying "it didn't happen; it's anti-Serbian propaganda".

They have the bones.

The identified with DNA.

There is simply nothing credible you can say against that sort of fact.

And why would you?

Does standing in a pile of bones and saying "these aren't bones" somehow make you more Serbian or something?
(Danilo, 20 December 2011 11:07)


ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ, I have heard this BS in the western media over and over again. I have had my favourites which included a mass grave near Srebrenica where the US declared these are the bodies of those murdered by Mladic et al. That was until they found crosses and ID cards on several victims which turned out to be Serbs. Did you hear anything further on that issue? No.

I recall Albright stating that you can see the graves using satellites. I recall also her saying that the Serbs reburied the bodies in other parts of Bosnia – all 8800!!!!! Get real.

Were Bosnians from Srebrenica executed; yes they were and all were from Oric’s paramilitary units and that would total no more than 400 to 500. Its amazing the Serbs committed “genocide” but left the women and children alone.

I have been involved in spin before you were born and I recognise it from kilomters away and Srebrenica is BS to say the least. As I said before, there are names of people supposedly killed by the Serbs on the Potocari monument.

Danilo

pre 12 godina

"now its back to 8800."

sj,

That's because it takes a long time to dig up all those bodies, those bodies mixed into three gravesites, and identify the remains.

It takes a lot longer than saying "it didn't happen; it's anti-Serbian propaganda".

They have the bones.

The identified with DNA.

There is simply nothing credible you can say against that sort of fact.

And why would you?

Does standing in a pile of bones and saying "these aren't bones" somehow make you more Serbian or something?

Danilo

pre 12 godina

Dragan.

Why do you call me self-hating? I happen to think I'm pretty awesome.

The definition of Genocide is trying to destroy an identifiable group in whole OR IN PART.

Don't you consider Operation Storm a kind of genocide? I do. You can't have one without the other.

I mean, if you want to get syntactically pedantic, you could say that there's never been genocide anywhere as long as 1 person from the group remains alive. WHo cares for this kind of morbid hair-splitting.

iko

pre 12 godina

And Dragan why did your ancestors convert to their prescribed religion? and do you really hold tax evasion as the principle cause of a major decision? Such motivation reveals more of reductionism and a penchant for superficialities than reasoned thought as to the other spidery web of delusion http://srebrenica-genocide.blogspot.com/2007/06/bosnian-book-of-dead.html but this presumes a level of enquiry that your comments shun.

Bulgar of Ohrid

pre 12 godina

What next? a FATWA initiated against Dodik..

When will these so called bosnians stop trying over and control areas where they are not required?

The bosnian federation is big enough for Croats and Muslims to live in one state, they dont really need Rep Srpska.. I say it again, its all about spite and hate, why should you have the land when i can have it ect ect

Obviously clear boundaries were drawn via Dayton, lets leave it at that.. you dont see the Rep Serbs trying to incorporate the entire Bosnia in Serbia? no just the part where they are %90 majority.. simple.. whos land it is is irrelevant, just like Southern Kosovo is %90 Albanian, Northern Kosovo is %90 Serb ect ect where people are a majority, they obvsiously dont want outsiders to control them.. nothing ilogical about that children..

Once some ape like creaters lived in the balkans and ruled the roost.. I reckon we give back the balkans to the apes, they would do a better job.. whats mine is mine and whats yours is yours

sick

Dragan

pre 12 godina

you know... that one.
(Danilo, 19 December 2011 22:01)

The self hating entrepreneur who is in Serbia to take advantage and underpay his workers (and proud of it) is back, spreading more anti-Serb lies and propoganda. I suggest you look up the word 'genocide' and find out what it means first before you spread your BS. Genocide is Auschwitz, Jasenovac, Operation Storm...the revenge killings of a band of sick murderers lead by Naser Oric in a small village in Bosnia is not genocide. It is an insult to the victims of real genocide to refer to it this way. Oric's war criminals destroyed 38 Serbian villages around Srebrenica, with truly sick attrocities against women and children which would even make Attila the Hun's stomach turn (maybe even Serb haters like yours if you bothered to look).
http://1389blog.com/2011/11/13/william-dorich-to-haroon-siddiqui-torontostar-stop-lying-about-srebrenica/
http://www.theblogmocracy.com/2011/06/06/bosnian-muslim-mass-murderer-naser-orics-greatest-hits/
Pseudointellectuals like you who know nothing are pathetic, I'm surprised your ancestors didn't convert to islam to pay less taxes. You seem like the type. Let me know if you need more truth which CNN doesn't like to show you.

sj

pre 12 godina

I'm pretty sure he's referring to the Srebrenica massacre of around 8800 Muslim men and boys committed by Serbs - The one that they found the 3 grave-sites for, some people's bones mixed up in all 3. The one that for the last 10 years ICMP has been identifying the bones with the DNA of relatives of the missing. The one that they've named around 6500 of the dead and have individualized an additional 2300 bodies and are still processing those bodies to attach a specific name to it.

you know... that one.
(Danilo, 19 December 2011 22:01)

What genocide mate??? They made those figures up as they went along. First it was 6000, funny enough the exact numbers of the Bosnian army that crossed the Drina into Serbia, then when that did not work it went to 8000 then to 10,000 and now its back to 8800. The monument in Potocari contains names of people alive today.

The west has been trying to come up with some BS to “put one over the Serbs” and here we have it the so called genocide. Every remains they find comes “from Srebrenica”, please give it a rest.




“The Islamic Community in Bosnia-Herzegovina will also ask the Muslim countries to declare Dodik persona non grata”

And what a rag tag group these Muslim countries are. As if anyone really cared what they did anyway, 99% live off hand outs and are counted amongst the poorest on this planet.

Danilo

pre 12 godina

"And what Genoside is here refered to -"

I'm pretty sure he's referring to the Srebrenica massacre of around 8800 Muslim men and boys committed by Serbs - The one that they found the 3 grave-sites for, some people's bones mixed up in all 3. The one that for the last 10 years ICMP has been identifying the bones with the DNA of relatives of the missing. The one that they've named around 6500 of the dead and have individualized an additional 2300 bodies and are still processing those bodies to attach a specific name to it.

you know... that one.

Paul

pre 12 godina

Like the proverbial little boy who cried wolf, people are waking up to the false claims of victimization made against the Serbs. In a twist to that fable, the little boy is, in fact, the wolf. Dodik is the sober voice in the region, that much is clear.

mick

pre 12 godina

This is a consequence of historical choices.
During the Ottoman empire Bosnia was 99% Serbian.
But around the 20th century The orthodox church did not accept non orthodox Serbs to be Serbs... Also in the Ottoman empire every Muslims was marked a turk! So to get this identity crisis complete Tito and his communists made a new nationality: Muslims who speak Serbian... So both people today Serbs in RS and Bosnjaks in the federation have to realize this and to not make the same mistakes in the future, so they have to accept each other how they are. There are many people in the world who are 1 nation but have multiple religions Its possible.

David, Zagreb

pre 12 godina

This is silly. Those same countries that that this guy is reaching out to, should be asked how much freedom of religion they offer their citizens? Like Egypt? Saudi? Are churches allowed to be built and attended to as they are with Mosques? Nope. When the West doesn't need the oil- let's do the same to those Islamist countries- all persona non grata, until they cut down hate speech against non muslims, and encourage the flourishing of Christianity....right.

Aleks

pre 12 godina

Dodik is already persona non grata in Tuzla and Zenica I think.



Not a surprise as both have more than their fair share of foreign wahabbis and locals who have converted to wahabbism. Both are under close surveillance by US and allied intelligence agencies as they are cauldrons of terrorism for the promotion of White Al-Queda. There have already been raids against their camps by 'bosnian' police & military with the direct supervision of outside countries. The problem is that Sarajevo would rather do nothing about it (as was the case of the US embassy shooter even though they were warned by serb intelligence services that the guy was dangerous), but, Sarajevo has to say "How high?" when their european and american overlords tell them to "Jump!".

ZMan

pre 12 godina

What genocide is he talking about?? The same NATO lies or what?? More serbs were massacred in Serbia than any other group by NATO and their little puppet Izetbegovic murdered..

Hey let's all sit together and read the Islamic declaration by Izetbegovic and learn what fascism is all about..

This is part of a bigger western plan to destroy Serbian influence in Balkans and create more puppet states.. It's embarassing because Dodic was put into power by the CIA but he is not obiedinet anymore, just like Kostunica..

metrod

pre 12 godina

I'm not a fan of Dodik but I'm also not a fan of injecting religion into politics. Asking muslim countries to declare Dodik as persona non grata makes one wonder if this Mufti's vision of Bosnia is European or non-European.

"Looks like Dayton did absolutely nothing in trying to unite Muslims, Serbs and Croats, yes it stopped armed conflict but the people still hate each other as ever. I think its time RS broke away from this manufactured state, taking Bosanska Krajina with them and uniting with Serbia.
SCP UK"

If the will of the people is there then it's something worth looking into. It's also worth noting that parts of Sandzak should then go to Bosnia, parts of Serbia should join Kosovo then you have Macedonia and Montenegro to deal with.

Dragan, Toronto

pre 12 godina

This venom again is spewed from the mouth of a representative of a so-called peaceful religion, that came to the Balkans not under the banner of peace, tolerance or equality; but by the sword and intent to convert by force, conquer and rule; without justice, tolerance or equality.

Leo

pre 12 godina

As Christians are brutally persecuted, murdered, raped and expelled throughout every Muslim area from Egypt to Turkey to Indonesia to Oslo and Amsterdam, of course this guy wants Dodik barred. How dare a real brave Christian be allowed to see the truth of "Islamic tolerance" in the lands of Islam!

arn.Sweden.

pre 12 godina

I have never heard that to be a Muslim is a Nationality or a Nation.

And what Genoside is here refered to -

The One the Muslims and Croat togheter in Bosnia conducted against the Serbs in the Second World War?.

And what Hate is refered to -

The One that made the Muslims in Bosnia separate themselves by a Civil war aginst the Serbian Population.

Those Muslims is the Worst Hyppocrit I ever saw.

Arn.Sweden.

SCP UK

pre 12 godina

Looks like Dayton did absolutely nothing in trying to unite Muslims, Serbs and Croats, yes it stopped armed conflict but the people still hate each other as ever. I think its time RS broke away from this manufactured state, taking Bosanska Krajina with them and uniting with Serbia.

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

What has Dodik done other than present a different idea or belief? I don't get it. He was not apart of the war in the 90's hes never made anti Muslim remarks...what gives?

Dodik is already persona non grata in Tuzla and Zenica I think. Well its not as if he has any business in those places anyway. His land is Republika Sprksa not Bosnia, the country that HAS to happen even if the majority of people living in it do not want it to happen.

Not for long I'm afraid

SCP UK

pre 12 godina

Looks like Dayton did absolutely nothing in trying to unite Muslims, Serbs and Croats, yes it stopped armed conflict but the people still hate each other as ever. I think its time RS broke away from this manufactured state, taking Bosanska Krajina with them and uniting with Serbia.

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

What has Dodik done other than present a different idea or belief? I don't get it. He was not apart of the war in the 90's hes never made anti Muslim remarks...what gives?

Dodik is already persona non grata in Tuzla and Zenica I think. Well its not as if he has any business in those places anyway. His land is Republika Sprksa not Bosnia, the country that HAS to happen even if the majority of people living in it do not want it to happen.

Not for long I'm afraid

arn.Sweden.

pre 12 godina

I have never heard that to be a Muslim is a Nationality or a Nation.

And what Genoside is here refered to -

The One the Muslims and Croat togheter in Bosnia conducted against the Serbs in the Second World War?.

And what Hate is refered to -

The One that made the Muslims in Bosnia separate themselves by a Civil war aginst the Serbian Population.

Those Muslims is the Worst Hyppocrit I ever saw.

Arn.Sweden.

Dragan, Toronto

pre 12 godina

This venom again is spewed from the mouth of a representative of a so-called peaceful religion, that came to the Balkans not under the banner of peace, tolerance or equality; but by the sword and intent to convert by force, conquer and rule; without justice, tolerance or equality.

Leo

pre 12 godina

As Christians are brutally persecuted, murdered, raped and expelled throughout every Muslim area from Egypt to Turkey to Indonesia to Oslo and Amsterdam, of course this guy wants Dodik barred. How dare a real brave Christian be allowed to see the truth of "Islamic tolerance" in the lands of Islam!

Dragan

pre 12 godina

you know... that one.
(Danilo, 19 December 2011 22:01)

The self hating entrepreneur who is in Serbia to take advantage and underpay his workers (and proud of it) is back, spreading more anti-Serb lies and propoganda. I suggest you look up the word 'genocide' and find out what it means first before you spread your BS. Genocide is Auschwitz, Jasenovac, Operation Storm...the revenge killings of a band of sick murderers lead by Naser Oric in a small village in Bosnia is not genocide. It is an insult to the victims of real genocide to refer to it this way. Oric's war criminals destroyed 38 Serbian villages around Srebrenica, with truly sick attrocities against women and children which would even make Attila the Hun's stomach turn (maybe even Serb haters like yours if you bothered to look).
http://1389blog.com/2011/11/13/william-dorich-to-haroon-siddiqui-torontostar-stop-lying-about-srebrenica/
http://www.theblogmocracy.com/2011/06/06/bosnian-muslim-mass-murderer-naser-orics-greatest-hits/
Pseudointellectuals like you who know nothing are pathetic, I'm surprised your ancestors didn't convert to islam to pay less taxes. You seem like the type. Let me know if you need more truth which CNN doesn't like to show you.

ZMan

pre 12 godina

What genocide is he talking about?? The same NATO lies or what?? More serbs were massacred in Serbia than any other group by NATO and their little puppet Izetbegovic murdered..

Hey let's all sit together and read the Islamic declaration by Izetbegovic and learn what fascism is all about..

This is part of a bigger western plan to destroy Serbian influence in Balkans and create more puppet states.. It's embarassing because Dodic was put into power by the CIA but he is not obiedinet anymore, just like Kostunica..

Aleks

pre 12 godina

Dodik is already persona non grata in Tuzla and Zenica I think.



Not a surprise as both have more than their fair share of foreign wahabbis and locals who have converted to wahabbism. Both are under close surveillance by US and allied intelligence agencies as they are cauldrons of terrorism for the promotion of White Al-Queda. There have already been raids against their camps by 'bosnian' police & military with the direct supervision of outside countries. The problem is that Sarajevo would rather do nothing about it (as was the case of the US embassy shooter even though they were warned by serb intelligence services that the guy was dangerous), but, Sarajevo has to say "How high?" when their european and american overlords tell them to "Jump!".

Danilo

pre 12 godina

"And what Genoside is here refered to -"

I'm pretty sure he's referring to the Srebrenica massacre of around 8800 Muslim men and boys committed by Serbs - The one that they found the 3 grave-sites for, some people's bones mixed up in all 3. The one that for the last 10 years ICMP has been identifying the bones with the DNA of relatives of the missing. The one that they've named around 6500 of the dead and have individualized an additional 2300 bodies and are still processing those bodies to attach a specific name to it.

you know... that one.

Paul

pre 12 godina

Like the proverbial little boy who cried wolf, people are waking up to the false claims of victimization made against the Serbs. In a twist to that fable, the little boy is, in fact, the wolf. Dodik is the sober voice in the region, that much is clear.

David, Zagreb

pre 12 godina

This is silly. Those same countries that that this guy is reaching out to, should be asked how much freedom of religion they offer their citizens? Like Egypt? Saudi? Are churches allowed to be built and attended to as they are with Mosques? Nope. When the West doesn't need the oil- let's do the same to those Islamist countries- all persona non grata, until they cut down hate speech against non muslims, and encourage the flourishing of Christianity....right.

mick

pre 12 godina

This is a consequence of historical choices.
During the Ottoman empire Bosnia was 99% Serbian.
But around the 20th century The orthodox church did not accept non orthodox Serbs to be Serbs... Also in the Ottoman empire every Muslims was marked a turk! So to get this identity crisis complete Tito and his communists made a new nationality: Muslims who speak Serbian... So both people today Serbs in RS and Bosnjaks in the federation have to realize this and to not make the same mistakes in the future, so they have to accept each other how they are. There are many people in the world who are 1 nation but have multiple religions Its possible.

sj

pre 12 godina

I'm pretty sure he's referring to the Srebrenica massacre of around 8800 Muslim men and boys committed by Serbs - The one that they found the 3 grave-sites for, some people's bones mixed up in all 3. The one that for the last 10 years ICMP has been identifying the bones with the DNA of relatives of the missing. The one that they've named around 6500 of the dead and have individualized an additional 2300 bodies and are still processing those bodies to attach a specific name to it.

you know... that one.
(Danilo, 19 December 2011 22:01)

What genocide mate??? They made those figures up as they went along. First it was 6000, funny enough the exact numbers of the Bosnian army that crossed the Drina into Serbia, then when that did not work it went to 8000 then to 10,000 and now its back to 8800. The monument in Potocari contains names of people alive today.

The west has been trying to come up with some BS to “put one over the Serbs” and here we have it the so called genocide. Every remains they find comes “from Srebrenica”, please give it a rest.




“The Islamic Community in Bosnia-Herzegovina will also ask the Muslim countries to declare Dodik persona non grata”

And what a rag tag group these Muslim countries are. As if anyone really cared what they did anyway, 99% live off hand outs and are counted amongst the poorest on this planet.

metrod

pre 12 godina

I'm not a fan of Dodik but I'm also not a fan of injecting religion into politics. Asking muslim countries to declare Dodik as persona non grata makes one wonder if this Mufti's vision of Bosnia is European or non-European.

"Looks like Dayton did absolutely nothing in trying to unite Muslims, Serbs and Croats, yes it stopped armed conflict but the people still hate each other as ever. I think its time RS broke away from this manufactured state, taking Bosanska Krajina with them and uniting with Serbia.
SCP UK"

If the will of the people is there then it's something worth looking into. It's also worth noting that parts of Sandzak should then go to Bosnia, parts of Serbia should join Kosovo then you have Macedonia and Montenegro to deal with.

sj

pre 12 godina

That's because it takes a long time to dig up all those bodies, those bodies mixed into three gravesites, and identify the remains.

It takes a lot longer than saying "it didn't happen; it's anti-Serbian propaganda".

They have the bones.

The identified with DNA.

There is simply nothing credible you can say against that sort of fact.

And why would you?

Does standing in a pile of bones and saying "these aren't bones" somehow make you more Serbian or something?
(Danilo, 20 December 2011 11:07)


ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ, I have heard this BS in the western media over and over again. I have had my favourites which included a mass grave near Srebrenica where the US declared these are the bodies of those murdered by Mladic et al. That was until they found crosses and ID cards on several victims which turned out to be Serbs. Did you hear anything further on that issue? No.

I recall Albright stating that you can see the graves using satellites. I recall also her saying that the Serbs reburied the bodies in other parts of Bosnia – all 8800!!!!! Get real.

Were Bosnians from Srebrenica executed; yes they were and all were from Oric’s paramilitary units and that would total no more than 400 to 500. Its amazing the Serbs committed “genocide” but left the women and children alone.

I have been involved in spin before you were born and I recognise it from kilomters away and Srebrenica is BS to say the least. As I said before, there are names of people supposedly killed by the Serbs on the Potocari monument.

Danilo

pre 12 godina

"now its back to 8800."

sj,

That's because it takes a long time to dig up all those bodies, those bodies mixed into three gravesites, and identify the remains.

It takes a lot longer than saying "it didn't happen; it's anti-Serbian propaganda".

They have the bones.

The identified with DNA.

There is simply nothing credible you can say against that sort of fact.

And why would you?

Does standing in a pile of bones and saying "these aren't bones" somehow make you more Serbian or something?

Bulgar of Ohrid

pre 12 godina

What next? a FATWA initiated against Dodik..

When will these so called bosnians stop trying over and control areas where they are not required?

The bosnian federation is big enough for Croats and Muslims to live in one state, they dont really need Rep Srpska.. I say it again, its all about spite and hate, why should you have the land when i can have it ect ect

Obviously clear boundaries were drawn via Dayton, lets leave it at that.. you dont see the Rep Serbs trying to incorporate the entire Bosnia in Serbia? no just the part where they are %90 majority.. simple.. whos land it is is irrelevant, just like Southern Kosovo is %90 Albanian, Northern Kosovo is %90 Serb ect ect where people are a majority, they obvsiously dont want outsiders to control them.. nothing ilogical about that children..

Once some ape like creaters lived in the balkans and ruled the roost.. I reckon we give back the balkans to the apes, they would do a better job.. whats mine is mine and whats yours is yours

sick

iko

pre 12 godina

And Dragan why did your ancestors convert to their prescribed religion? and do you really hold tax evasion as the principle cause of a major decision? Such motivation reveals more of reductionism and a penchant for superficialities than reasoned thought as to the other spidery web of delusion http://srebrenica-genocide.blogspot.com/2007/06/bosnian-book-of-dead.html but this presumes a level of enquiry that your comments shun.

Danilo

pre 12 godina

Dragan.

Why do you call me self-hating? I happen to think I'm pretty awesome.

The definition of Genocide is trying to destroy an identifiable group in whole OR IN PART.

Don't you consider Operation Storm a kind of genocide? I do. You can't have one without the other.

I mean, if you want to get syntactically pedantic, you could say that there's never been genocide anywhere as long as 1 person from the group remains alive. WHo cares for this kind of morbid hair-splitting.

Danilo

pre 12 godina

Sorry sj,

it's not "propaganda". They've found the bones. They attached names to them. Saying "it didn't happen", "the real number is 25" just doesn't wash anymore.

This question is answered and there's nothing you can contribute to it.

Saying it didn't happen now is like saying "there's no evolution and god put fossils on earth to test our faith"

Did god put those bones there to test your faith?

Because that's what you're discussing now - your faith.

sj

pre 12 godina

(Danilo, 21 December 2011 10:06)


There are bones all over that region; just look at the number of wars in the last 1000 years.

And as you are so convinced of this fact I imagine you were there testing that DNA. No, you just read it.

During that war people were being killed in large numbers and there are many mass graves because it was easier to bury them that way. Now every time one is uncovered the west proclaims it to be the Srebrenica victims. You should read the interview of the Srebrenica Bosnian police chief and then tell me how there are 8800 killed.

This man out lined how Alija Izetbegovic was desperate to stop the war and he said in front others that he would like to have a couple of thousand Bosnians killed using knives to force the Serbs into negotiations. The police chief is a Muslim not a Serb.

If the Serbs committed “genocide” why leave out the women and children. No one has answered that one yet.

Danilo

pre 12 godina

Dragan.

Why do you call me self-hating? I happen to think I'm pretty awesome.

The definition of Genocide is trying to destroy an identifiable group in whole OR IN PART.

Don't you consider Operation Storm a kind of genocide? I do. You can't have one without the other.

I mean, if you want to get syntactically pedantic, you could say that there's never been genocide anywhere as long as 1 person from the group remains alive. WHo cares for this kind of morbid hair-splitting.

Danilo

pre 12 godina

"And what Genoside is here refered to -"

I'm pretty sure he's referring to the Srebrenica massacre of around 8800 Muslim men and boys committed by Serbs - The one that they found the 3 grave-sites for, some people's bones mixed up in all 3. The one that for the last 10 years ICMP has been identifying the bones with the DNA of relatives of the missing. The one that they've named around 6500 of the dead and have individualized an additional 2300 bodies and are still processing those bodies to attach a specific name to it.

you know... that one.

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

What has Dodik done other than present a different idea or belief? I don't get it. He was not apart of the war in the 90's hes never made anti Muslim remarks...what gives?

Dodik is already persona non grata in Tuzla and Zenica I think. Well its not as if he has any business in those places anyway. His land is Republika Sprksa not Bosnia, the country that HAS to happen even if the majority of people living in it do not want it to happen.

Not for long I'm afraid

arn.Sweden.

pre 12 godina

I have never heard that to be a Muslim is a Nationality or a Nation.

And what Genoside is here refered to -

The One the Muslims and Croat togheter in Bosnia conducted against the Serbs in the Second World War?.

And what Hate is refered to -

The One that made the Muslims in Bosnia separate themselves by a Civil war aginst the Serbian Population.

Those Muslims is the Worst Hyppocrit I ever saw.

Arn.Sweden.

iko

pre 12 godina

And Dragan why did your ancestors convert to their prescribed religion? and do you really hold tax evasion as the principle cause of a major decision? Such motivation reveals more of reductionism and a penchant for superficialities than reasoned thought as to the other spidery web of delusion http://srebrenica-genocide.blogspot.com/2007/06/bosnian-book-of-dead.html but this presumes a level of enquiry that your comments shun.

metrod

pre 12 godina

I'm not a fan of Dodik but I'm also not a fan of injecting religion into politics. Asking muslim countries to declare Dodik as persona non grata makes one wonder if this Mufti's vision of Bosnia is European or non-European.

"Looks like Dayton did absolutely nothing in trying to unite Muslims, Serbs and Croats, yes it stopped armed conflict but the people still hate each other as ever. I think its time RS broke away from this manufactured state, taking Bosanska Krajina with them and uniting with Serbia.
SCP UK"

If the will of the people is there then it's something worth looking into. It's also worth noting that parts of Sandzak should then go to Bosnia, parts of Serbia should join Kosovo then you have Macedonia and Montenegro to deal with.

Danilo

pre 12 godina

"now its back to 8800."

sj,

That's because it takes a long time to dig up all those bodies, those bodies mixed into three gravesites, and identify the remains.

It takes a lot longer than saying "it didn't happen; it's anti-Serbian propaganda".

They have the bones.

The identified with DNA.

There is simply nothing credible you can say against that sort of fact.

And why would you?

Does standing in a pile of bones and saying "these aren't bones" somehow make you more Serbian or something?

SCP UK

pre 12 godina

Looks like Dayton did absolutely nothing in trying to unite Muslims, Serbs and Croats, yes it stopped armed conflict but the people still hate each other as ever. I think its time RS broke away from this manufactured state, taking Bosanska Krajina with them and uniting with Serbia.

Paul

pre 12 godina

Like the proverbial little boy who cried wolf, people are waking up to the false claims of victimization made against the Serbs. In a twist to that fable, the little boy is, in fact, the wolf. Dodik is the sober voice in the region, that much is clear.

ZMan

pre 12 godina

What genocide is he talking about?? The same NATO lies or what?? More serbs were massacred in Serbia than any other group by NATO and their little puppet Izetbegovic murdered..

Hey let's all sit together and read the Islamic declaration by Izetbegovic and learn what fascism is all about..

This is part of a bigger western plan to destroy Serbian influence in Balkans and create more puppet states.. It's embarassing because Dodic was put into power by the CIA but he is not obiedinet anymore, just like Kostunica..

mick

pre 12 godina

This is a consequence of historical choices.
During the Ottoman empire Bosnia was 99% Serbian.
But around the 20th century The orthodox church did not accept non orthodox Serbs to be Serbs... Also in the Ottoman empire every Muslims was marked a turk! So to get this identity crisis complete Tito and his communists made a new nationality: Muslims who speak Serbian... So both people today Serbs in RS and Bosnjaks in the federation have to realize this and to not make the same mistakes in the future, so they have to accept each other how they are. There are many people in the world who are 1 nation but have multiple religions Its possible.

Bulgar of Ohrid

pre 12 godina

What next? a FATWA initiated against Dodik..

When will these so called bosnians stop trying over and control areas where they are not required?

The bosnian federation is big enough for Croats and Muslims to live in one state, they dont really need Rep Srpska.. I say it again, its all about spite and hate, why should you have the land when i can have it ect ect

Obviously clear boundaries were drawn via Dayton, lets leave it at that.. you dont see the Rep Serbs trying to incorporate the entire Bosnia in Serbia? no just the part where they are %90 majority.. simple.. whos land it is is irrelevant, just like Southern Kosovo is %90 Albanian, Northern Kosovo is %90 Serb ect ect where people are a majority, they obvsiously dont want outsiders to control them.. nothing ilogical about that children..

Once some ape like creaters lived in the balkans and ruled the roost.. I reckon we give back the balkans to the apes, they would do a better job.. whats mine is mine and whats yours is yours

sick

Leo

pre 12 godina

As Christians are brutally persecuted, murdered, raped and expelled throughout every Muslim area from Egypt to Turkey to Indonesia to Oslo and Amsterdam, of course this guy wants Dodik barred. How dare a real brave Christian be allowed to see the truth of "Islamic tolerance" in the lands of Islam!

Aleks

pre 12 godina

Dodik is already persona non grata in Tuzla and Zenica I think.



Not a surprise as both have more than their fair share of foreign wahabbis and locals who have converted to wahabbism. Both are under close surveillance by US and allied intelligence agencies as they are cauldrons of terrorism for the promotion of White Al-Queda. There have already been raids against their camps by 'bosnian' police & military with the direct supervision of outside countries. The problem is that Sarajevo would rather do nothing about it (as was the case of the US embassy shooter even though they were warned by serb intelligence services that the guy was dangerous), but, Sarajevo has to say "How high?" when their european and american overlords tell them to "Jump!".

Dragan, Toronto

pre 12 godina

This venom again is spewed from the mouth of a representative of a so-called peaceful religion, that came to the Balkans not under the banner of peace, tolerance or equality; but by the sword and intent to convert by force, conquer and rule; without justice, tolerance or equality.

sj

pre 12 godina

I'm pretty sure he's referring to the Srebrenica massacre of around 8800 Muslim men and boys committed by Serbs - The one that they found the 3 grave-sites for, some people's bones mixed up in all 3. The one that for the last 10 years ICMP has been identifying the bones with the DNA of relatives of the missing. The one that they've named around 6500 of the dead and have individualized an additional 2300 bodies and are still processing those bodies to attach a specific name to it.

you know... that one.
(Danilo, 19 December 2011 22:01)

What genocide mate??? They made those figures up as they went along. First it was 6000, funny enough the exact numbers of the Bosnian army that crossed the Drina into Serbia, then when that did not work it went to 8000 then to 10,000 and now its back to 8800. The monument in Potocari contains names of people alive today.

The west has been trying to come up with some BS to “put one over the Serbs” and here we have it the so called genocide. Every remains they find comes “from Srebrenica”, please give it a rest.




“The Islamic Community in Bosnia-Herzegovina will also ask the Muslim countries to declare Dodik persona non grata”

And what a rag tag group these Muslim countries are. As if anyone really cared what they did anyway, 99% live off hand outs and are counted amongst the poorest on this planet.

Dragan

pre 12 godina

you know... that one.
(Danilo, 19 December 2011 22:01)

The self hating entrepreneur who is in Serbia to take advantage and underpay his workers (and proud of it) is back, spreading more anti-Serb lies and propoganda. I suggest you look up the word 'genocide' and find out what it means first before you spread your BS. Genocide is Auschwitz, Jasenovac, Operation Storm...the revenge killings of a band of sick murderers lead by Naser Oric in a small village in Bosnia is not genocide. It is an insult to the victims of real genocide to refer to it this way. Oric's war criminals destroyed 38 Serbian villages around Srebrenica, with truly sick attrocities against women and children which would even make Attila the Hun's stomach turn (maybe even Serb haters like yours if you bothered to look).
http://1389blog.com/2011/11/13/william-dorich-to-haroon-siddiqui-torontostar-stop-lying-about-srebrenica/
http://www.theblogmocracy.com/2011/06/06/bosnian-muslim-mass-murderer-naser-orics-greatest-hits/
Pseudointellectuals like you who know nothing are pathetic, I'm surprised your ancestors didn't convert to islam to pay less taxes. You seem like the type. Let me know if you need more truth which CNN doesn't like to show you.

Danilo

pre 12 godina

Sorry sj,

it's not "propaganda". They've found the bones. They attached names to them. Saying "it didn't happen", "the real number is 25" just doesn't wash anymore.

This question is answered and there's nothing you can contribute to it.

Saying it didn't happen now is like saying "there's no evolution and god put fossils on earth to test our faith"

Did god put those bones there to test your faith?

Because that's what you're discussing now - your faith.

David, Zagreb

pre 12 godina

This is silly. Those same countries that that this guy is reaching out to, should be asked how much freedom of religion they offer their citizens? Like Egypt? Saudi? Are churches allowed to be built and attended to as they are with Mosques? Nope. When the West doesn't need the oil- let's do the same to those Islamist countries- all persona non grata, until they cut down hate speech against non muslims, and encourage the flourishing of Christianity....right.

sj

pre 12 godina

That's because it takes a long time to dig up all those bodies, those bodies mixed into three gravesites, and identify the remains.

It takes a lot longer than saying "it didn't happen; it's anti-Serbian propaganda".

They have the bones.

The identified with DNA.

There is simply nothing credible you can say against that sort of fact.

And why would you?

Does standing in a pile of bones and saying "these aren't bones" somehow make you more Serbian or something?
(Danilo, 20 December 2011 11:07)


ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ, I have heard this BS in the western media over and over again. I have had my favourites which included a mass grave near Srebrenica where the US declared these are the bodies of those murdered by Mladic et al. That was until they found crosses and ID cards on several victims which turned out to be Serbs. Did you hear anything further on that issue? No.

I recall Albright stating that you can see the graves using satellites. I recall also her saying that the Serbs reburied the bodies in other parts of Bosnia – all 8800!!!!! Get real.

Were Bosnians from Srebrenica executed; yes they were and all were from Oric’s paramilitary units and that would total no more than 400 to 500. Its amazing the Serbs committed “genocide” but left the women and children alone.

I have been involved in spin before you were born and I recognise it from kilomters away and Srebrenica is BS to say the least. As I said before, there are names of people supposedly killed by the Serbs on the Potocari monument.

sj

pre 12 godina

(Danilo, 21 December 2011 10:06)


There are bones all over that region; just look at the number of wars in the last 1000 years.

And as you are so convinced of this fact I imagine you were there testing that DNA. No, you just read it.

During that war people were being killed in large numbers and there are many mass graves because it was easier to bury them that way. Now every time one is uncovered the west proclaims it to be the Srebrenica victims. You should read the interview of the Srebrenica Bosnian police chief and then tell me how there are 8800 killed.

This man out lined how Alija Izetbegovic was desperate to stop the war and he said in front others that he would like to have a couple of thousand Bosnians killed using knives to force the Serbs into negotiations. The police chief is a Muslim not a Serb.

If the Serbs committed “genocide” why leave out the women and children. No one has answered that one yet.