EU not Belgrade’s priority - EP rapporteur

Kacin, just shut up already. We don't want to become German shoe shine boys like you, so save your breath. Take your beloved EU membership and stick it. We're not interested. Now go give Angela a big fat kiss (you know where) like a good boy.

That's western political symantics for you. "no one ever asked Serbia to recognize Kosovo, we only asked to normalize relations." Western politicians are not to be trusted! They twist their words around in order to confuse citizens and still get what they want.

"EU not Belgrade’s priority - EP rapporteur"

And methinks should never have been.

Greece will be expelled from or leave the now so-called "EU". It's just simple math. Croatia will reap all the economic disaster of the sinking "EU" and still find its culture under siege from the bankrupt degenerates in Brussels and Washington.. The one good news for Serbia is the Third World invaders/rapists ("immigrants") pouring through Greece into Serbia can be dumped into Croatia. Congratulations, Zagreb. You're committing suicide. But maybe like Bosnia's Croats, you'll wake up someday to recognize who your real enemies are today.

“I think this does not lead anywhere. In fact, the public in Serbia does not even know at all that Kosovo is at the moment presiding over CEFTA and that not a single meeting, not a single event have been canceled so far. They have always found the way to make those events happen, to get all the member states, including Serbia, to participate"

No. In fact, the current CEFTA chair is UNMIK/Kosovo. If you don't believe me, check the CEFTA website. It means: Kosovo is represented according to UN1244, like it should be. Serbia never opposed Kosovo participating in any international forum as UNMIK/Kosovo or with any similar name that honors UN1244. Serbia only insists that Kosovo is not represented with state signs or as the (self proclaimed) 'Rebublic of Kosovo'.

The EP rapporteur said that blaming Germany for the failure to get the EU candidate status was wrong, "pointing out that vast majority of the EU member states honestly and actively supported Serbia."

Hmm... So what should we conclude from this? That blame should be on the vast majority of the EU members? Or that Serbia itself should be blamed, even if vast majority of the EU members honestly and actively supported Serbia (and thus didn't see that Serbia has done something to not to earn candidacy)?

Has it ever been clearly said what all normalization of Serbia-Kosovo relation includes? Are we to understand the relation should be as normalized as USA-Cuba relation? If Serbian politicians don't ask and explain this I wonder why Serbian journalist aren't doing the job. Is this some guessing game scenario?

The EU is going thru hard times. If it comes out of it alive it's got stronger, but necessarily not immediately healthy. Serbia may be lucky not to be in the EU yet. Let's see what financial demands will be put on Croatia after its membership starts.

The huge majority of the Serbs are not intersted in joining the sinking ship of the EU. It is only the rulling regime that is interested to joining the EU, against wishes of the overwhelming majority of Serbia. In the last decade, the current tretcherous Serbian government has continuously degraded Serbian citizens living standards, has destroyed Serbian economy, has been involved in cover up of murder of more than a thousad Serbs in hands of Albanian bandits in Kosovo... President Tadic's government of Serby is the only government in the entire world that has been responsible for the 5% decrease in its own population in less than a decade. How did they manage to achive such an astonishing rate of depopulating Serbia? Clearly, that is something for scientists to investigate, but there is no doubt that the rulling Serbian regime has unconditionally advocated the membership of EU as something which has no alternative, although the only tangable help has been supplied by resurgent Russia.

The time has come to re-evaluate what has not been achieved in Serbia in the last 10 years and why. All the leads point to imense failures of the rulling "elites".

Question: Jelko Kacin, how do you tell if a politician is lying?
Answer: Check to see if his lips are moving.

Central European Free Trade Agreement - CEFTA 2006
"On December 19, 2006, Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Macedonia, Moldova, Montenegro, Serbia and the United Nations Interim Administration Mission in Kosovo (UNMIK) on behalf of Kosovo in accordance with United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244 signed an Agreement to amend and enlarge the Central European Free Trade – CEFTA 2006."

http://www.cefta2006.com/

In fact, the public in Serbia does not even know at all that Kosovo is at the moment presiding over CEFTA and that not a single meeting, not a single event have been canceled so far.
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Do the public in "Kosova" know that it is being represented as UNMIK-Kosovo? If not then why not?

You see, they can compromise and people should start to realise that the only viable compromise is more than autonomy, less than independence.

From now on the name to be used at international meetings will be: the "Republic of Kosova" with all its state symbols. Finally, this will prove that Res.1244 has outlived its usefulness. Kosova will shortly join NATO and in a few years will be a member of the EU.
(The Count of Kosova, 18 December 2011 22:51)

I knew Kosovo is the main European drug hub in Europe, but I didn't know so far that the use of hallucinogenic drugs must have a high rate there, making people live in an illusionary dream world :)

Please don't compare apples with oranges. Has Croatia been asked to give up part of it's territory to join EU? Of course not. Has Croatia been forced to allow the Serbian refugees back in peace and their property returned? Again no.
So what was so hard for Croatia to join EU?

"Absolutely... Hopefully the majority of Serbs share that same opinion as you and the Albanians.
(icj1, 18 December 2011 18:56)"

Its my opinion alright. How do you know it is the Albanians' opinion too? Was a poll conducted or something?

Thank God, EU stopped with its appeasement policy towards Serbia. That was a complete waste. There is no chance that anybody in Serbia can claim now that EU and Kosovo together will be ever successful. It was never. Belgrade just kept lying and pushing for it. It didn't work.

Like many said before. You try getting both (Kosovo and EU), you will end getting nothing. It appears that it will be nothing, including losing Visa free regime. I call this Epic Fail. So long..

Cheers!

LOL another slap in the face. Serbia has been sitting in a meeting were Kosovo has rotating presidency. What happened it sounds to me that the representation issue has been solved

Kosova will shortly join NATO and in a few years will be a member of the EU.
(The Count of Kosova, 18 December 2011 22:51)
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What do you think those five EU members who haven't recognised Kosovo will say about that?

And methinks should never have been.
(lowe, 18 December 2011 15:03)

Absolutely... Hopefully the majority of Serbs share that same opinion as you and the Albanians.

No. In fact, the current CEFTA chair is UNMIK/Kosovo. If you don't believe me, check the CEFTA website. It means: Kosovo is represented according to UN1244, like it should be. Serbia never opposed Kosovo participating in any international forum as UNMIK/Kosovo or with any similar name that honors UN1244. Serbia only insists that Kosovo is not represented with state signs or as the (self proclaimed) 'Rebublic of Kosovo'.
(Analyst, 18 December 2011 18:05)

Analyst,

From now on the name to be used at international meetings will be: the "Republic of Kosova" with all its state symbols. Finally, this will prove that Res.1244 has outlived its usefulness. Kosova will shortly join NATO and in a few years will be a member of the EU.

Kosovo is represented according to UN1244, like it should be. Serbia never opposed Kosovo participating in any international forum as UNMIK/Kosovo or with any similar name that honors UN1244. Serbia only insists that Kosovo is not represented with state signs or as the (self proclaimed) 'Rebublic of Kosovo'.
(Analyst, 18 December 2011 18:05)


Of course Kosovo should be represented in accordance with 1244. That means that the options available are "UNMIK/Kosovo" or "Republic of Kosovo" - all are in accordance with 1244. So, as long as Serbia insits on solutions in accordance with 1244, everybody should be good and use "Republic of Kosovo" or "UNMIK/Kosovo".

President Tadic's government of Serby is the only government in the entire world that has been responsible for the 5% decrease in its own population in less than a decade.
(Winston from Bladon, 18 December 2011 20:32)

Oh, no, they are not alone in that achievement. Putin has also achieved about the same in a decade for Russia...

Central European Free Trade Agreement - CEFTA 2006
"On December 19, 2006, Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Macedonia, Moldova, Montenegro, Serbia and the United Nations Interim Administration Mission in Kosovo (UNMIK) on behalf of Kosovo in accordance with United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244 signed an Agreement to amend and enlarge the Central European Free Trade – CEFTA 2006."
(Roger7, 18 December 2011 22:30)

That is a correct statement, like saying that the sun raises in the East. But not sure what your point is... That, in accordance with Resolution 1244, UNMIK signed in 2006, on behalf of Kosovo, the CEFTA agreement - we all know that.

What do you think those five EU members who haven't recognised Kosovo will say about that?
(Peggy, 19 December 2011 12:05)

The same thing, they don't recognize Kosovo... That has nothing to do though with EU membership. They've never said they'll veto Kosovo's membership in the EU. There are already entities which are not countries which are or were part of the EU.

Just because Serbia sees everywhere and in everything the nightmare of Kosovo's recognition, that does not mean that other countries have the same paranoia.

Zoran, Roger, Analyst, while you are dancing in the street and trying to rub the Albanians noses in the fact that Kosovo is presented in CEFTA as UNMIK-Kosovo, do you not realize that you are also celebrating the fact that Kosovo is represented as an equal and SEPERATE partner from Serbia. That is listed as a single customs region that is SEPERATE from Serbia. That according to CEFTA the lines between Serbia and Kosovo are distinct.
While you revel in the fact that (to you) Kosovo is not independent you also highlight that Kosovo is not Serbian, and to the rest of the world that is half the battle.
Just like when you drape yourself in the 1244 banner, you are parading around with pride a document that strips Serbia of any political, economical, social, physical control or ties to Kosovo.

Thank God, EU stopped with its appeasement policy towards Serbia. That was a complete waste. There is no chance that anybody in Serbia can claim now that EU and Kosovo together will be ever successful. It was never. Belgrade just kept lying and pushing for it. It didn't work.

Like many said before. You try getting both (Kosovo and EU), you will end getting nothing. It appears that it will be nothing, including losing Visa free regime. I call this Epic Fail. So long..

Cheers!

No. In fact, the current CEFTA chair is UNMIK/Kosovo. If you don't believe me, check the CEFTA website. It means: Kosovo is represented according to UN1244, like it should be. Serbia never opposed Kosovo participating in any international forum as UNMIK/Kosovo or with any similar name that honors UN1244. Serbia only insists that Kosovo is not represented with state signs or as the (self proclaimed) 'Rebublic of Kosovo'.
(Analyst, 18 December 2011 18:05)

Analyst,

From now on the name to be used at international meetings will be: the "Republic of Kosova" with all its state symbols. Finally, this will prove that Res.1244 has outlived its usefulness. Kosova will shortly join NATO and in a few years will be a member of the EU.

LOL another slap in the face. Serbia has been sitting in a meeting were Kosovo has rotating presidency. What happened it sounds to me that the representation issue has been solved

And methinks should never have been.
(lowe, 18 December 2011 15:03)

Absolutely... Hopefully the majority of Serbs share that same opinion as you and the Albanians.

Kacin, just shut up already. We don't want to become German shoe shine boys like you, so save your breath. Take your beloved EU membership and stick it. We're not interested. Now go give Angela a big fat kiss (you know where) like a good boy.

That's western political symantics for you. "no one ever asked Serbia to recognize Kosovo, we only asked to normalize relations." Western politicians are not to be trusted! They twist their words around in order to confuse citizens and still get what they want.

Kosovo is represented according to UN1244, like it should be. Serbia never opposed Kosovo participating in any international forum as UNMIK/Kosovo or with any similar name that honors UN1244. Serbia only insists that Kosovo is not represented with state signs or as the (self proclaimed) 'Rebublic of Kosovo'.
(Analyst, 18 December 2011 18:05)


Of course Kosovo should be represented in accordance with 1244. That means that the options available are "UNMIK/Kosovo" or "Republic of Kosovo" - all are in accordance with 1244. So, as long as Serbia insits on solutions in accordance with 1244, everybody should be good and use "Republic of Kosovo" or "UNMIK/Kosovo".

Greece will be expelled from or leave the now so-called "EU". It's just simple math. Croatia will reap all the economic disaster of the sinking "EU" and still find its culture under siege from the bankrupt degenerates in Brussels and Washington.. The one good news for Serbia is the Third World invaders/rapists ("immigrants") pouring through Greece into Serbia can be dumped into Croatia. Congratulations, Zagreb. You're committing suicide. But maybe like Bosnia's Croats, you'll wake up someday to recognize who your real enemies are today.

"EU not Belgrade’s priority - EP rapporteur"

And methinks should never have been.

The EP rapporteur said that blaming Germany for the failure to get the EU candidate status was wrong, "pointing out that vast majority of the EU member states honestly and actively supported Serbia."

Hmm... So what should we conclude from this? That blame should be on the vast majority of the EU members? Or that Serbia itself should be blamed, even if vast majority of the EU members honestly and actively supported Serbia (and thus didn't see that Serbia has done something to not to earn candidacy)?

Has it ever been clearly said what all normalization of Serbia-Kosovo relation includes? Are we to understand the relation should be as normalized as USA-Cuba relation? If Serbian politicians don't ask and explain this I wonder why Serbian journalist aren't doing the job. Is this some guessing game scenario?

The EU is going thru hard times. If it comes out of it alive it's got stronger, but necessarily not immediately healthy. Serbia may be lucky not to be in the EU yet. Let's see what financial demands will be put on Croatia after its membership starts.

President Tadic's government of Serby is the only government in the entire world that has been responsible for the 5% decrease in its own population in less than a decade.
(Winston from Bladon, 18 December 2011 20:32)

Oh, no, they are not alone in that achievement. Putin has also achieved about the same in a decade for Russia...

Central European Free Trade Agreement - CEFTA 2006
"On December 19, 2006, Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Macedonia, Moldova, Montenegro, Serbia and the United Nations Interim Administration Mission in Kosovo (UNMIK) on behalf of Kosovo in accordance with United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244 signed an Agreement to amend and enlarge the Central European Free Trade – CEFTA 2006."
(Roger7, 18 December 2011 22:30)

That is a correct statement, like saying that the sun raises in the East. But not sure what your point is... That, in accordance with Resolution 1244, UNMIK signed in 2006, on behalf of Kosovo, the CEFTA agreement - we all know that.

“I think this does not lead anywhere. In fact, the public in Serbia does not even know at all that Kosovo is at the moment presiding over CEFTA and that not a single meeting, not a single event have been canceled so far. They have always found the way to make those events happen, to get all the member states, including Serbia, to participate"

No. In fact, the current CEFTA chair is UNMIK/Kosovo. If you don't believe me, check the CEFTA website. It means: Kosovo is represented according to UN1244, like it should be. Serbia never opposed Kosovo participating in any international forum as UNMIK/Kosovo or with any similar name that honors UN1244. Serbia only insists that Kosovo is not represented with state signs or as the (self proclaimed) 'Rebublic of Kosovo'.

In fact, the public in Serbia does not even know at all that Kosovo is at the moment presiding over CEFTA and that not a single meeting, not a single event have been canceled so far.
--
Do the public in "Kosova" know that it is being represented as UNMIK-Kosovo? If not then why not?

You see, they can compromise and people should start to realise that the only viable compromise is more than autonomy, less than independence.

The huge majority of the Serbs are not intersted in joining the sinking ship of the EU. It is only the rulling regime that is interested to joining the EU, against wishes of the overwhelming majority of Serbia. In the last decade, the current tretcherous Serbian government has continuously degraded Serbian citizens living standards, has destroyed Serbian economy, has been involved in cover up of murder of more than a thousad Serbs in hands of Albanian bandits in Kosovo... President Tadic's government of Serby is the only government in the entire world that has been responsible for the 5% decrease in its own population in less than a decade. How did they manage to achive such an astonishing rate of depopulating Serbia? Clearly, that is something for scientists to investigate, but there is no doubt that the rulling Serbian regime has unconditionally advocated the membership of EU as something which has no alternative, although the only tangable help has been supplied by resurgent Russia.

The time has come to re-evaluate what has not been achieved in Serbia in the last 10 years and why. All the leads point to imense failures of the rulling "elites".

From now on the name to be used at international meetings will be: the "Republic of Kosova" with all its state symbols. Finally, this will prove that Res.1244 has outlived its usefulness. Kosova will shortly join NATO and in a few years will be a member of the EU.
(The Count of Kosova, 18 December 2011 22:51)

I knew Kosovo is the main European drug hub in Europe, but I didn't know so far that the use of hallucinogenic drugs must have a high rate there, making people live in an illusionary dream world :)

Please don't compare apples with oranges. Has Croatia been asked to give up part of it's territory to join EU? Of course not. Has Croatia been forced to allow the Serbian refugees back in peace and their property returned? Again no.
So what was so hard for Croatia to join EU?

What do you think those five EU members who haven't recognised Kosovo will say about that?
(Peggy, 19 December 2011 12:05)

The same thing, they don't recognize Kosovo... That has nothing to do though with EU membership. They've never said they'll veto Kosovo's membership in the EU. There are already entities which are not countries which are or were part of the EU.

Just because Serbia sees everywhere and in everything the nightmare of Kosovo's recognition, that does not mean that other countries have the same paranoia.

Zoran, Roger, Analyst, while you are dancing in the street and trying to rub the Albanians noses in the fact that Kosovo is presented in CEFTA as UNMIK-Kosovo, do you not realize that you are also celebrating the fact that Kosovo is represented as an equal and SEPERATE partner from Serbia. That is listed as a single customs region that is SEPERATE from Serbia. That according to CEFTA the lines between Serbia and Kosovo are distinct.
While you revel in the fact that (to you) Kosovo is not independent you also highlight that Kosovo is not Serbian, and to the rest of the world that is half the battle.
Just like when you drape yourself in the 1244 banner, you are parading around with pride a document that strips Serbia of any political, economical, social, physical control or ties to Kosovo.

Question: Jelko Kacin, how do you tell if a politician is lying?
Answer: Check to see if his lips are moving.

Central European Free Trade Agreement - CEFTA 2006
"On December 19, 2006, Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Macedonia, Moldova, Montenegro, Serbia and the United Nations Interim Administration Mission in Kosovo (UNMIK) on behalf of Kosovo in accordance with United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244 signed an Agreement to amend and enlarge the Central European Free Trade – CEFTA 2006."

http://www.cefta2006.com/

"Absolutely... Hopefully the majority of Serbs share that same opinion as you and the Albanians.
(icj1, 18 December 2011 18:56)"

Its my opinion alright. How do you know it is the Albanians' opinion too? Was a poll conducted or something?

Kosova will shortly join NATO and in a few years will be a member of the EU.
(The Count of Kosova, 18 December 2011 22:51)
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What do you think those five EU members who haven't recognised Kosovo will say about that?