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Thursday, 15.12.2011.

10:31

U.S., Kosovo sign cultural protection agreement

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Kosovo President Atifete Jahjaga signed the Agreement on Protection and Preservation of Certain Cultural Properties.

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milutin

pre 12 godina

"Serbia has been around since the 14th century"

"USA United States of Albania, 16 December 2011 15:50)
theft of Serbian history is present in the above-mentioned sentence (arount 14th century)
To alk about the history of other people in public is okay with the fact that to be true, but to steal and forge a crime. more than 30 Serbian rulers were in power in Serbia from 6 to 14 century. Here's an example Monasteries Zica or Studenica was build in central Serbia before 14th century. 700yr albo don't counted becouse he com in the balkan in middle of 11th century and don't know nothing before that period. Next time don't still Serb hystory by time please, becouse you sleep from day one near 1000yr in the Balkan and start with your country from 1921 for 90 yr you build bunkers only over 700000 world record...for what?

Wee Kelpie

pre 12 godina

KFOR which included USA troops watched witout interference Pristina Government sponsored burning of Serbian Orthodox Churches,killing and eviction of Serbian people from their land.
(lukebuyenovich, 16 December 2011 02:32)
If "watching without intereference" means KFOR shooting, killing, wounding and/or arresting those who attacked serbs and Serbian Orthodox Churches, then I fully agree with your statement.
(icj1, 17 December 2011 17:16)

Have to agree some with 'icj1'. Very few KFOR units emerged with any credibility during March 2004, US forces was one of them. If my memory serves well, I believe they managed to penetrate as far as Vucitrn until prevented by French KFOR from advancing further, who assured the US contingent that they had everything under control!
Credit where credit due on this occasion

icj1

pre 12 godina

During Milosevic time KAlbs should have obeyed their YU police and not shoot at police officers. Wasn't it simple? If they had fulfilled that rule they would have had much less problems with their treatment by YU police.
(aaayyy, 15 December 2011 19:28)

You mean all of the Albanians or only those few criminals who shoot at YU police officers ?

icj1

pre 12 godina

KFOR which included USA troops watched witout interference Pristina Government sponsored burning of Serbian Orthodox Churches,killing and eviction of Serbian people from their land.
(lukebuyenovich, 16 December 2011 02:32)


If "watching without intereference" means KFOR shooting, killing, wounding and/or arresting those who attacked serbs and Serbian Orthodox Churches, then I fully agree with your statement.

Wee Kelpie

pre 12 godina

I well remember a comment made by an Albanian during my early mission days, ''The biggest mistake of the Ottomans (Turks) was to allow the churches to stand, the Serbs always came back. This time there will be no mistake, No churches No serbs''
Having to protect whats left must stick in the throat of some folk.

moris

pre 12 godina

The rich cultural heritage in Kosovo is serbian and cannot be stolen by albanians and americans.
And since america what cultural heritage is all about, they think it is albanian.
In what world are we living in ?

USA United States of Albania

pre 12 godina

@trizo

Theres NO comparing the USA to Serbia. Serbia has been around since the 14th century and the USA has been around for about 250 years! Look at what America has achieved at home and in the world. Look at what Serbia has achieved in the world and at home... You have some good tennis players. Wow! Thats really impressive. America sent humans into space!

An empire thats been around since the 14th century is reduced to dumping gravel and timber on roads and thats a Serbian idea of "fighting" and "victory". Im just shakin my head over here when I read such silly comments about how "bad" the USA is and how MIGHTY and AMAZING Serbia is. If it wasn't for the USA Serbia would be German! Dont fool yourself...Yugoslavia couldn't of done it without the USA and Britain in WWII. Actually Chetniks lost the war, they were also double agents working with the Germans against the Partizans. Partizans were victorious. Partizans were mutliethnic.

trizo

pre 12 godina

It's amazing to read comments that come from: Willi pfaf and roberto frisco..

No matter what a Serb says, whether it's prejudice or not, these guys immediately start repeating the same old "you serbs are in milosevic era" and "no place for you in europe" etc etc

Well, Hilary's country was built on slavery.

Germany tried to take over the whole of Europe with their master plan.

Roberto Frisco (which sounds like an Italian name) you seem to disagree with anyone who does not conform to the occupiers ideas.

Willi the German basically just hates Serbians because like someone else said, his toy is from Kosovo so he is obviously deluded and will never give an honest and unbiased point of view.

Willi can you please recite some history about Kosovo from say... the 6th century? Please recount your opinion of when Kosovo was first put on the map and who occupied Kosovo the longest throughout history and who fought the most wars in the history of Kosovo on Kosovo's soil in order to protect Kosovo?

The problem for Willi & ROberto and all the other small minded short sighted posters out there is: "Freedom of information"

You simply cannot get away with propaganda anymore... even your beloved NATO & KFOR etc are all starting to have the spotlight shone on them.

The rest of the world now sees how aggresive America is and just by our very human nature we will not support the perpetrators.

The internet, mobile phone footage, global news sites, wikileaks...

they are ALL unfavourable for people like you, and also people like USA and NATO.

And It's becoming more and MORE evident that RUSSIA and CHINA are strengthening their grip on the world stage.

Soon will come the time when guys like you will have to live under guys like us :)

There are happy times ahead and perhaps you will join the side of truth and justice :)

Bugar Skoplje

pre 12 godina

"I do not understand many serbian posters on this site they write about history something that is not suported by any forein study, they only like to say Albanians have to go back to Turkey because that is where they come from, and there is lot of histrical facts that Albanias been in balkan long time before Turkish ocupation I will take one excample 11th centry albanian principality of Arta".
@Jeton

For your understanding many albo's posters on this site they write about history and claim to be illirians before any Serb poster. But serb diging old books and founded that you com from Sicily in 11 century.
Here is part from old Book for your reference in latin:
"Agrenorum natio occidentem versus in Sicilia naval bus et terrestribus Greacorum viribus , atque nisi accusatus domination capesendae, cuius fidei imperium universum datum erat Georgius ille Maniaces e medio sublatus esset , et aliis imposatic essent res belliace ,fortasse Greacis nunc esset subiecta insula tam magna atque celeries et urbibus cincta maximis neque ceterorum bonorum ullo carens. ...
Your people never see Balkan before ( March 1043 with George Ille Maniaces in city Drach).
It's not nice to use public place and claim "we are oldest people in the Balkan illirians , or "we are here before Serbs" for that your lier must have proff but readers don't liked incorrect statement.
You are right about Turks on Balkan they com near 300 yr after you Turks know for original Albania better than me. Be happy and have nice day.

lukebuyenovich

pre 12 godina

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton:"It's essential that Kosovo forges as pluralistic society"What a wishful thing that is.Just 7 years ago KFOR which included USA troops watched witout interference Pristina Government sponsored burning of Serbian Orthodox Churches,killing and eviction of Serbian people from their land.The document SHE signed is worthless.Kosovo Albanian society is still in terrorists mode barely out of trees.It would take number of decades if not centuries to bring that society to the necessary levels of civilized behavior so essential for any coexistence.

Mike

pre 12 godina

It's take's a clueless idiot and young branless woman to come up with this stupidity! Who the hell are they fooling? All of Kosovo is Serbia's. The monuments are all Serbian, well maybe not... I'm sure that the almighty Albanian occupiers built an outhouse somewhere.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

(Jeton, 15 December 2011 16:17)
US/Germany/the West want to give all of Kosovo under full Albanian control. It cannot be long-term solution, since it isn't just.

Brian

pre 12 godina

Yes, I totally trust that the people responsible for the destruction or damage of hundreds of Serbian orthodox churches and graves will make sure other churches and graves are protected. I am sure this monastery will be destroyed by Albanians in the future. The government supports destruction of Serbian things.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

Willi Pfaff,

During Milosevic time KAlbs should have obeyed their YU police and not shoot at police officers. Wasn't it simple? If they had fulfilled that rule they would have had much less problems with their treatment by YU police.

roberto

pre 12 godina

Bravo, and what a difference in tone, substance and thoughfullness, compared to what Belgrade politicians have to say about this matter, and especially to the way serbians make comments on this web site. This shows once more who the aggressors in this conflict are, and who are the one's who want peace and understanding between the balkan countries. Some of those people who spread their hatefull comments about Kosovars on this web site should be ashamed when they read this .....(Willi Pfaff, 15 December 2011 11:25)

Those ppl should be ashamed but they are not, because they have no conscience. instead they have endless ultra-nationalism, and it is ugly, it is deadly.

i am opposed to any destruction of all religious or sacred spaces, cemetaries, etc. it is a problem in many countries, i've often seen it in europe, and in serbia as well. it should not be tolerated, these places need to be respected. that's what this is all about and i applaud hillary and kosova's president.

as for the "patriots" here, can you imagine how many mosques and churches were burned and leveled by yr wonderful forces throughout the 90s?!!! not to mention before. such disgusting hypocrisy.

and the neverending attacks ag. albanians and dissidents here must be stopped! instead they are always facilitated. that is their idea of "morality." shame!!

ciao roberto frisco

Jesus saves

pre 12 godina

Don't know why some serbs are so upset by this deal? By doing this America has highlighted the situation of serb churches and monasteries across Kosovo. America has recognized Kosovo so its natural that they turn to Pristina. Joe Biden did a similar thing in the past where he warned albanians not to desecrate and vandalize these places of worship. After all, albanians wouldn't dare to upset the hand that feeds them.

Janez-Beograd

pre 12 godina

What can I say, all these hateful and unreflected comments speak for itself. You just proof once more that Serbia has no place in the EU, and the serbian people who visit and comment on this web site simply do not reflect any basic democratic understanding and are governed by hate and primitive nationalistic ideas: No refection on their countries past; and what is shown here disqualifies you to become a part of the EU. You need to go a long, long way before you can become a part of the free world.
(Willi Pfaff, 15 December 2011 15:46)

Willi, there is no hatred in Dragan's comments but yours. Have you ever been to Serbia? if you were you will see many different nationalisties cohabiting together, no problem with the exception of KLA controlled Kosovo. In my neighbourhood in New belgrade there are over a dozen different nationalities. Me a Slovene and I live with my parents and brother. My boss in work is Serb as are many of my friends. my mechanic a Croat, big Partizan fan too :) I drink in a bar run by a Bosniak and I eat a burek nearly everyday for breakfast prepared from a kiosk by a Macedonian, A gypsy guy comes by and does odd jobs in my apartment block. I have a K-Albanian neighbour who I consider one of my best friends. Hey we even got Chinese people :) I know a couple of Arab guys here. Eveybody knows me and knows them. there is no problems, no hatred. Only violence you get here are from football hooligans. However any time I go to Split to see a friend I get some problems. Last time my windshield was smashed and I got into a fight in a bar all because of the plates on my car and when I talk. I admit my Partizan sticker on my fender did not help.

I would recommend that you visit Novi Sad too. You will be surprised how tolerant and easygoing Serbia is. Stop reading the crap in Die Welt and Bild and experience Serbia for yourself. I give you my own personal experience.

Ratko

pre 12 godina

What are these occupiers signing? Is it all the things they are stealing from Serbia and claiming as their own now? What low pathetic evil people. They are trying so hard to change and distort history with their non-stop propaganda. americans & albanians learned very well from goebells how to use propaganda and spread lies.

Steve B.

pre 12 godina

Anything related to drugs, organs and child prostitutes belongs to the Albanians.
(Ari Gold, 15 December 2011 10:41)

Correction: the organs actually belonged to non-Albanians. Well at least they did originally.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 12 godina

Old pic of now President Atifete Jahjaga. Now , I understand why Serbs can not move forward just by having a news agency using an old pic from several years ago. It was so easy to use the real pic when President Jahjaga met with Mrs. Clinton.
Feel sorry for Serbia.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

The agreement signed by the US and Kosovo is a step in the right direction to make sure that things like that will not happen again. (Willi Pfaff, 15 December 2011 13:35)

LOL what things? Albanian desecration of Serbian and Jewish cemeteries? Albanians pooping in Serbian churches? Albanians trying to rewrite history and call Serbian Orthodox sites "Byzantine Illyrian"? If it's all of the above, then yes it is a step in the right direction since the individual selected to be president of Kosovo by the US Ambassador has now signed a binding agreement with the US to no longer use these sites of cultural heritage as places for Albanians to vent their anger against.

I wonder if this also covers preserving the historical center of Prizren, which many Albanians are upset about supporting because of the role the SPC will be given in preserving its monuments. Will they at least be insured the next time someone steals the tiles off the roof? :)

Dragan

pre 12 godina

Dragan and co you do need lecturing unfortunatley!

Shade
(femi, 15 December 2011 16:31)

Not from Serb hating German hypocrites and albanian KLA loving trolls I don't. But thanks for your concern.
Cheers!!

femi

pre 12 godina

Dragan/Serbs, please do not bring he II WW into this and critizise Germany.

Germany toady is very different of what it was under dictator Hitler. There is at least 2 million people from FRY Yugosllavia who reside in BRD and are generally perfectley happy.

Germans today have very different ideas of the Hitler Germany had. Serbs however have still those ideas of Milloshoveiq!

Dragan and co you do need lecturing unfortunatley!

Shade

Jeff

pre 12 godina

Willi-if you are`german get ready for some serious smackdown. The world is tired of you blackmailing everyone to bail you out of the mess you made. Germany's history should mean you should keep your mouth shut when it comes to lecturing other nations on their behaviour. Who would want to be in a club with you guys as members anyway? It's all falling apart for you. Take care of your own problems and stop nosing into other peoples business.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

"Jahjaga said Kosovo had a rich cultural heritage, expressed in the architectural values, in the objects of worship and religious monuments, which testified that different peoples lived there together for centuries, and added that Kosovo was a multiethnic society, which wanted to build good neighborhood relations with all the countries in the region."

LOL yes. Kosovo's cultural heritage is Serbian, Roman, and Turkish. I wonder why Hillary mentioned a Serbian Orthodox monastery only? Could she find anything Albanian other than the gaudy buildings of Pristina and the statue of her husband? :)

Jeton

pre 12 godina

I do not understand many serbian posters on this site they write about history something that is not suported by any forein study, they only like to say Albanians have to go back to Turkey because that is where they come from, and there is lot of histrical facts that Albanias been in balkan long time before Turkish ocupation I will take one excample 11th centry albanian principality of Arta.
In 1912 serbian ocupation of kosovo was for pure political and economical reasons this can justify not only ocupation of kosovo proper but more parts of albania and massacre of local population to chnage ethinc background of region before london conference 1913.
Serbs were never majority in kosovo after 1912 for the fact that state of serbia had so many attempts to colonize kosovo with serbs but their atmpts were only partialy sucesful, if kosovo had mojority serb population colonizing with more serbs probably by now we will not had any albaniasn there,

Dragan

pre 12 godina

It's interesting how Willi just ignores facts calls Serbs 'hateful' when they present him with the truth. I have never seen him criticize any of the endless hateful comments on here from albanian trolls. But I guess that's because he loves his albanian boy toys, and does not want to offend them.

Willi Pfaff

pre 12 godina

What can I say, all these hateful and unreflected comments speak for itself. You just proof once more that Serbia has no place in the EU, and the serbian people who visit and comment on this web site simply do not reflect any basic democratic understanding and are governed by hate and primitive nationalistic ideas: No refection on their countries past; and what is shown here disqualifies you to become a part of the EU. You need to go a long, long way before you can become a part of the free world.

ZZ

pre 12 godina

"Did you bring my order of a dozen kidneys and a liver with you? Oh..just cash? Send my hugs and kisses to Snaky. Bubba sends his love too and he says he's still waiting for his statue! Ha ha..."

Zoran

pre 12 godina

Now this is funny. All words with absolutely no substance. Albanians have been destroying all Serbian culture or attempting to thieve it. Also they have been attempting to expel all non-Albanians and they claim "Kosova" is multi-ethnic? The US is in a deluded state and it is no wonder the rest of the world has rejected them. Not even their Southern American neighbours want anything to do with the US. Check -> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-16021120

Bye bye US, out with the old and in with the new. You failed and so will your "Kosova" and BiH delusions.

szemi

pre 12 godina

Well Winston, do not forget what Serbians have done to Kosovoars all through history. And especially do not forget what happened during the famous Milosovich years, when Serbs killed Kosovars by the thousends, did ethnic cleansing, destroyed their homes, mosques, their lives. The agreement signed by the US and Kosovo is a step in the right direction to make sure that things like that will not happen again. Serbs still have to do a lot of reflection on their own history and the awful things which were done by their country. Why doesn't Serbia sign such an agreement protecting the cultural heritage of minorities in their country. Kosov did it .....
(Willi Pfaff, 15 December 2011 13:35)

All through history serbs have been ethnicly cleansed by albanians and turks from their land the same way you bloodthirsty germans were ethnicly cleansing poles in eastern poland for centuries.POles were lucky to get opportunity to ethincly re-cleanse those territories and push you ethernal troblemakers the inside enemy of Europe behind Odera river .Unfortunatelly serbs have been denied this oppurtunity by western hypocrats for several times but morally they have right to liberate their land and kick the albanian criminals and bootlickers back to Turkey using exactly the same methods albanians used to cleanse them.You cannot liberate your land with soft tools and treat the occupiars in humane way.However I am not disillusioned regarding future.AS long as there are germans in Europe there will always be problems and similarly as long as there are traces of osman imperialism on the balkans there will never be peace over there.

Roger7

pre 12 godina

Little sinceity here.

Mrs. Clinton you need to denounce using places of worship as public toilets and the destruction of Christian and Jewish cemeteries.

All for show ... What a sham.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

"According to germans in 1939 the poles were the agressors and the germans the defenders of peace."
(szemi, 15 December 2011 13:44)

According to the Serbs in 1989-1999 everyone else was an aggressor and the Serbs were the defenders of peace (in Bosnia, Croatia, Kosovo)

Nowadays, everybody but some right-wing extremists know that it's not true - not 1939, not 1989.

Dragan

pre 12 godina

Willi, as a German, you can not lecture anyone about human rights and protection of minorities, you hypocrite. Serbs are the most tolerant society in the Balkans, and Serbia is full of minorities who are treated with complete equal rights. How are minorities treated in your fake, illegal and immoral 'state' of Kosovo? They need escorts to go grocery shopping and have to live in ghettos behind barbed wire. Serbian grandmothers get attacked by albanian youths when they hear them speaking Serbian. In Croatia they still hold Nazi concerts and celebrate a genocide as a national holiday. You Germans are a real piece of work. You seem to have learned well from Goebbels how to spread lies and propoganda.

szemi

pre 12 godina

Bravo, and what a difference in tone, substance and thoughfullness, compared to what Belgrade politicians have to say about this matter, and especially to the way serbians make comments on this web site. This shows once more who the aggressors in this conflict are, and who are the one's who want peace and understanding between the balkan countries. Some of those people who spread their hatefull comments about Kosovars on this web site should be ashamed when they read this .....
(Willi Pfaff, 15 December 2011 11:25)

According to germans in 1939 the poles were the agressors and the germans the defenders of peace.Reading your comment I must admit your german mentality has not changed regarding the interpratation of things that happen in reality.You are still hitlerists at heart who pretend to be democrats.

Willi Pfaff

pre 12 godina

Well Winston, do not forget what Serbians have done to Kosovoars all through history. And especially do not forget what happened during the famous Milosovich years, when Serbs killed Kosovars by the thousends, did ethnic cleansing, destroyed their homes, mosques, their lives. The agreement signed by the US and Kosovo is a step in the right direction to make sure that things like that will not happen again. Serbs still have to do a lot of reflection on their own history and the awful things which were done by their country. Why doesn't Serbia sign such an agreement protecting the cultural heritage of minorities in their country. Kosov did it .....

winston

pre 12 godina

Plaff, you would be more credible if you were honest. Albanians destroyed Serbian monasteries, desecrated Serbian graveyards, drove Serbs from their homes, and yes, even murdered some of them, and you have the gall to BS here about Albanians wanting peace. You are the one who should bow his head in shame - you and those people in that freak show in DC.

MikeC

pre 12 godina

"Jahjaga said Kosovo had a rich cultural heritage"

Albanians taking credit for Serbias cultural heritage, something albanians tried to destroy in 2004. This hypocricy makes me sick!

Analyst

pre 12 godina

"Jahjaga said Kosovo had a rich cultural heritage, expressed in the architectural values, in the objects of worship and religious monuments, which testified that different peoples lived there together for centuries, and added that Kosovo was a multiethnic society, which wanted to build good neighborhood relations with all the countries in the region."

Yes, and a lot of this 'rich cultural heritage' and 'religious monuments' were destroyed by the Kosovo Albanian mob in 2004. You can sign everything, but how can anyone with a sane mind expect protection from the same people who destroyed it?

Funnily, the oldest genuine Kosovo monument might be the Clinton statue in Pristina :)

Svetislav

pre 12 godina

In Germany there is a saying:

"Den Bock zum Gärtner machen...!"

what means the same like:

"to set a fox to keep the geese"

That is what they agreed on.

-.-

Joe A

pre 12 godina

Did she also visit the sites that were destroyed in 2004 under the watchful eye of KFOR? What did the Americans do then to protect them?

Wally

pre 12 godina

Fine words Madam Secretary, shame they have no substance. Another attempt at daylight robbery. God will punish you, for He is the greatest schemer of all.

Willi Pfaff

pre 12 godina

Bravo, and what a difference in tone, substance and thoughfullness, compared to what Belgrade politicians have to say about this matter, and especially to the way serbians make comments on this web site. This shows once more who the aggressors in this conflict are, and who are the one's who want peace and understanding between the balkan countries. Some of those people who spread their hatefull comments about Kosovars on this web site should be ashamed when they read this .....

PRO-SERBIA

pre 12 godina

What a big joke done by the Yankees. The Republic of Serbia is the "sole" responsible for the preservation of Serbia's cultural heritage in kosovo, churches, monuments, etc.

These "separatists" in pristina are the one's who destroyed and vandalized many churches and monuments in the past.

NOw the Yankees is entrusting them to protect it. WHAT A BIG JOKE...

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

Again, its not the 'USA and Kosovo' signing these agreements but rather USA and Albanian separatists..and signing it on who's behalf? Everything related to culture in Kosovo belongs to Serbs. Anything related to drugs, organs and child prostitutes belongs to the Albanians.

Zirb

pre 12 godina

What a joke, Kosovo's is Serbian...and its Serbia's cultural heritage they covet since they have none of their own. All the monuments, Churches and history is Serbian as it the land it rests on.

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

Again, its not the 'USA and Kosovo' signing these agreements but rather USA and Albanian separatists..and signing it on who's behalf? Everything related to culture in Kosovo belongs to Serbs. Anything related to drugs, organs and child prostitutes belongs to the Albanians.

Dragan

pre 12 godina

Willi, as a German, you can not lecture anyone about human rights and protection of minorities, you hypocrite. Serbs are the most tolerant society in the Balkans, and Serbia is full of minorities who are treated with complete equal rights. How are minorities treated in your fake, illegal and immoral 'state' of Kosovo? They need escorts to go grocery shopping and have to live in ghettos behind barbed wire. Serbian grandmothers get attacked by albanian youths when they hear them speaking Serbian. In Croatia they still hold Nazi concerts and celebrate a genocide as a national holiday. You Germans are a real piece of work. You seem to have learned well from Goebbels how to spread lies and propoganda.

Zirb

pre 12 godina

What a joke, Kosovo's is Serbian...and its Serbia's cultural heritage they covet since they have none of their own. All the monuments, Churches and history is Serbian as it the land it rests on.

szemi

pre 12 godina

Well Winston, do not forget what Serbians have done to Kosovoars all through history. And especially do not forget what happened during the famous Milosovich years, when Serbs killed Kosovars by the thousends, did ethnic cleansing, destroyed their homes, mosques, their lives. The agreement signed by the US and Kosovo is a step in the right direction to make sure that things like that will not happen again. Serbs still have to do a lot of reflection on their own history and the awful things which were done by their country. Why doesn't Serbia sign such an agreement protecting the cultural heritage of minorities in their country. Kosov did it .....
(Willi Pfaff, 15 December 2011 13:35)

All through history serbs have been ethnicly cleansed by albanians and turks from their land the same way you bloodthirsty germans were ethnicly cleansing poles in eastern poland for centuries.POles were lucky to get opportunity to ethincly re-cleanse those territories and push you ethernal troblemakers the inside enemy of Europe behind Odera river .Unfortunatelly serbs have been denied this oppurtunity by western hypocrats for several times but morally they have right to liberate their land and kick the albanian criminals and bootlickers back to Turkey using exactly the same methods albanians used to cleanse them.You cannot liberate your land with soft tools and treat the occupiars in humane way.However I am not disillusioned regarding future.AS long as there are germans in Europe there will always be problems and similarly as long as there are traces of osman imperialism on the balkans there will never be peace over there.

PRO-SERBIA

pre 12 godina

What a big joke done by the Yankees. The Republic of Serbia is the "sole" responsible for the preservation of Serbia's cultural heritage in kosovo, churches, monuments, etc.

These "separatists" in pristina are the one's who destroyed and vandalized many churches and monuments in the past.

NOw the Yankees is entrusting them to protect it. WHAT A BIG JOKE...

MikeC

pre 12 godina

"Jahjaga said Kosovo had a rich cultural heritage"

Albanians taking credit for Serbias cultural heritage, something albanians tried to destroy in 2004. This hypocricy makes me sick!

szemi

pre 12 godina

Bravo, and what a difference in tone, substance and thoughfullness, compared to what Belgrade politicians have to say about this matter, and especially to the way serbians make comments on this web site. This shows once more who the aggressors in this conflict are, and who are the one's who want peace and understanding between the balkan countries. Some of those people who spread their hatefull comments about Kosovars on this web site should be ashamed when they read this .....
(Willi Pfaff, 15 December 2011 11:25)

According to germans in 1939 the poles were the agressors and the germans the defenders of peace.Reading your comment I must admit your german mentality has not changed regarding the interpratation of things that happen in reality.You are still hitlerists at heart who pretend to be democrats.

Analyst

pre 12 godina

"Jahjaga said Kosovo had a rich cultural heritage, expressed in the architectural values, in the objects of worship and religious monuments, which testified that different peoples lived there together for centuries, and added that Kosovo was a multiethnic society, which wanted to build good neighborhood relations with all the countries in the region."

Yes, and a lot of this 'rich cultural heritage' and 'religious monuments' were destroyed by the Kosovo Albanian mob in 2004. You can sign everything, but how can anyone with a sane mind expect protection from the same people who destroyed it?

Funnily, the oldest genuine Kosovo monument might be the Clinton statue in Pristina :)

winston

pre 12 godina

Plaff, you would be more credible if you were honest. Albanians destroyed Serbian monasteries, desecrated Serbian graveyards, drove Serbs from their homes, and yes, even murdered some of them, and you have the gall to BS here about Albanians wanting peace. You are the one who should bow his head in shame - you and those people in that freak show in DC.

Dragan

pre 12 godina

It's interesting how Willi just ignores facts calls Serbs 'hateful' when they present him with the truth. I have never seen him criticize any of the endless hateful comments on here from albanian trolls. But I guess that's because he loves his albanian boy toys, and does not want to offend them.

Joe A

pre 12 godina

Did she also visit the sites that were destroyed in 2004 under the watchful eye of KFOR? What did the Americans do then to protect them?

Wally

pre 12 godina

Fine words Madam Secretary, shame they have no substance. Another attempt at daylight robbery. God will punish you, for He is the greatest schemer of all.

Roger7

pre 12 godina

Little sinceity here.

Mrs. Clinton you need to denounce using places of worship as public toilets and the destruction of Christian and Jewish cemeteries.

All for show ... What a sham.

Willi Pfaff

pre 12 godina

Bravo, and what a difference in tone, substance and thoughfullness, compared to what Belgrade politicians have to say about this matter, and especially to the way serbians make comments on this web site. This shows once more who the aggressors in this conflict are, and who are the one's who want peace and understanding between the balkan countries. Some of those people who spread their hatefull comments about Kosovars on this web site should be ashamed when they read this .....

Zoran

pre 12 godina

Now this is funny. All words with absolutely no substance. Albanians have been destroying all Serbian culture or attempting to thieve it. Also they have been attempting to expel all non-Albanians and they claim "Kosova" is multi-ethnic? The US is in a deluded state and it is no wonder the rest of the world has rejected them. Not even their Southern American neighbours want anything to do with the US. Check -> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-16021120

Bye bye US, out with the old and in with the new. You failed and so will your "Kosova" and BiH delusions.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

"Jahjaga said Kosovo had a rich cultural heritage, expressed in the architectural values, in the objects of worship and religious monuments, which testified that different peoples lived there together for centuries, and added that Kosovo was a multiethnic society, which wanted to build good neighborhood relations with all the countries in the region."

LOL yes. Kosovo's cultural heritage is Serbian, Roman, and Turkish. I wonder why Hillary mentioned a Serbian Orthodox monastery only? Could she find anything Albanian other than the gaudy buildings of Pristina and the statue of her husband? :)

Janez-Beograd

pre 12 godina

What can I say, all these hateful and unreflected comments speak for itself. You just proof once more that Serbia has no place in the EU, and the serbian people who visit and comment on this web site simply do not reflect any basic democratic understanding and are governed by hate and primitive nationalistic ideas: No refection on their countries past; and what is shown here disqualifies you to become a part of the EU. You need to go a long, long way before you can become a part of the free world.
(Willi Pfaff, 15 December 2011 15:46)

Willi, there is no hatred in Dragan's comments but yours. Have you ever been to Serbia? if you were you will see many different nationalisties cohabiting together, no problem with the exception of KLA controlled Kosovo. In my neighbourhood in New belgrade there are over a dozen different nationalities. Me a Slovene and I live with my parents and brother. My boss in work is Serb as are many of my friends. my mechanic a Croat, big Partizan fan too :) I drink in a bar run by a Bosniak and I eat a burek nearly everyday for breakfast prepared from a kiosk by a Macedonian, A gypsy guy comes by and does odd jobs in my apartment block. I have a K-Albanian neighbour who I consider one of my best friends. Hey we even got Chinese people :) I know a couple of Arab guys here. Eveybody knows me and knows them. there is no problems, no hatred. Only violence you get here are from football hooligans. However any time I go to Split to see a friend I get some problems. Last time my windshield was smashed and I got into a fight in a bar all because of the plates on my car and when I talk. I admit my Partizan sticker on my fender did not help.

I would recommend that you visit Novi Sad too. You will be surprised how tolerant and easygoing Serbia is. Stop reading the crap in Die Welt and Bild and experience Serbia for yourself. I give you my own personal experience.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

Willi Pfaff,

During Milosevic time KAlbs should have obeyed their YU police and not shoot at police officers. Wasn't it simple? If they had fulfilled that rule they would have had much less problems with their treatment by YU police.

Dragan

pre 12 godina

Dragan and co you do need lecturing unfortunatley!

Shade
(femi, 15 December 2011 16:31)

Not from Serb hating German hypocrites and albanian KLA loving trolls I don't. But thanks for your concern.
Cheers!!

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

The agreement signed by the US and Kosovo is a step in the right direction to make sure that things like that will not happen again. (Willi Pfaff, 15 December 2011 13:35)

LOL what things? Albanian desecration of Serbian and Jewish cemeteries? Albanians pooping in Serbian churches? Albanians trying to rewrite history and call Serbian Orthodox sites "Byzantine Illyrian"? If it's all of the above, then yes it is a step in the right direction since the individual selected to be president of Kosovo by the US Ambassador has now signed a binding agreement with the US to no longer use these sites of cultural heritage as places for Albanians to vent their anger against.

I wonder if this also covers preserving the historical center of Prizren, which many Albanians are upset about supporting because of the role the SPC will be given in preserving its monuments. Will they at least be insured the next time someone steals the tiles off the roof? :)

Brian

pre 12 godina

Yes, I totally trust that the people responsible for the destruction or damage of hundreds of Serbian orthodox churches and graves will make sure other churches and graves are protected. I am sure this monastery will be destroyed by Albanians in the future. The government supports destruction of Serbian things.

Svetislav

pre 12 godina

In Germany there is a saying:

"Den Bock zum Gärtner machen...!"

what means the same like:

"to set a fox to keep the geese"

That is what they agreed on.

-.-

ZZ

pre 12 godina

"Did you bring my order of a dozen kidneys and a liver with you? Oh..just cash? Send my hugs and kisses to Snaky. Bubba sends his love too and he says he's still waiting for his statue! Ha ha..."

Willi Pfaff

pre 12 godina

Well Winston, do not forget what Serbians have done to Kosovoars all through history. And especially do not forget what happened during the famous Milosovich years, when Serbs killed Kosovars by the thousends, did ethnic cleansing, destroyed their homes, mosques, their lives. The agreement signed by the US and Kosovo is a step in the right direction to make sure that things like that will not happen again. Serbs still have to do a lot of reflection on their own history and the awful things which were done by their country. Why doesn't Serbia sign such an agreement protecting the cultural heritage of minorities in their country. Kosov did it .....

Mike

pre 12 godina

It's take's a clueless idiot and young branless woman to come up with this stupidity! Who the hell are they fooling? All of Kosovo is Serbia's. The monuments are all Serbian, well maybe not... I'm sure that the almighty Albanian occupiers built an outhouse somewhere.

Willi Pfaff

pre 12 godina

What can I say, all these hateful and unreflected comments speak for itself. You just proof once more that Serbia has no place in the EU, and the serbian people who visit and comment on this web site simply do not reflect any basic democratic understanding and are governed by hate and primitive nationalistic ideas: No refection on their countries past; and what is shown here disqualifies you to become a part of the EU. You need to go a long, long way before you can become a part of the free world.

Ratko

pre 12 godina

What are these occupiers signing? Is it all the things they are stealing from Serbia and claiming as their own now? What low pathetic evil people. They are trying so hard to change and distort history with their non-stop propaganda. americans & albanians learned very well from goebells how to use propaganda and spread lies.

Jeff

pre 12 godina

Willi-if you are`german get ready for some serious smackdown. The world is tired of you blackmailing everyone to bail you out of the mess you made. Germany's history should mean you should keep your mouth shut when it comes to lecturing other nations on their behaviour. Who would want to be in a club with you guys as members anyway? It's all falling apart for you. Take care of your own problems and stop nosing into other peoples business.

femi

pre 12 godina

Dragan/Serbs, please do not bring he II WW into this and critizise Germany.

Germany toady is very different of what it was under dictator Hitler. There is at least 2 million people from FRY Yugosllavia who reside in BRD and are generally perfectley happy.

Germans today have very different ideas of the Hitler Germany had. Serbs however have still those ideas of Milloshoveiq!

Dragan and co you do need lecturing unfortunatley!

Shade

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

(Jeton, 15 December 2011 16:17)
US/Germany/the West want to give all of Kosovo under full Albanian control. It cannot be long-term solution, since it isn't just.

Steve B.

pre 12 godina

Anything related to drugs, organs and child prostitutes belongs to the Albanians.
(Ari Gold, 15 December 2011 10:41)

Correction: the organs actually belonged to non-Albanians. Well at least they did originally.

Jesus saves

pre 12 godina

Don't know why some serbs are so upset by this deal? By doing this America has highlighted the situation of serb churches and monasteries across Kosovo. America has recognized Kosovo so its natural that they turn to Pristina. Joe Biden did a similar thing in the past where he warned albanians not to desecrate and vandalize these places of worship. After all, albanians wouldn't dare to upset the hand that feeds them.

Bugar Skoplje

pre 12 godina

"I do not understand many serbian posters on this site they write about history something that is not suported by any forein study, they only like to say Albanians have to go back to Turkey because that is where they come from, and there is lot of histrical facts that Albanias been in balkan long time before Turkish ocupation I will take one excample 11th centry albanian principality of Arta".
@Jeton

For your understanding many albo's posters on this site they write about history and claim to be illirians before any Serb poster. But serb diging old books and founded that you com from Sicily in 11 century.
Here is part from old Book for your reference in latin:
"Agrenorum natio occidentem versus in Sicilia naval bus et terrestribus Greacorum viribus , atque nisi accusatus domination capesendae, cuius fidei imperium universum datum erat Georgius ille Maniaces e medio sublatus esset , et aliis imposatic essent res belliace ,fortasse Greacis nunc esset subiecta insula tam magna atque celeries et urbibus cincta maximis neque ceterorum bonorum ullo carens. ...
Your people never see Balkan before ( March 1043 with George Ille Maniaces in city Drach).
It's not nice to use public place and claim "we are oldest people in the Balkan illirians , or "we are here before Serbs" for that your lier must have proff but readers don't liked incorrect statement.
You are right about Turks on Balkan they com near 300 yr after you Turks know for original Albania better than me. Be happy and have nice day.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 12 godina

Old pic of now President Atifete Jahjaga. Now , I understand why Serbs can not move forward just by having a news agency using an old pic from several years ago. It was so easy to use the real pic when President Jahjaga met with Mrs. Clinton.
Feel sorry for Serbia.

roberto

pre 12 godina

Bravo, and what a difference in tone, substance and thoughfullness, compared to what Belgrade politicians have to say about this matter, and especially to the way serbians make comments on this web site. This shows once more who the aggressors in this conflict are, and who are the one's who want peace and understanding between the balkan countries. Some of those people who spread their hatefull comments about Kosovars on this web site should be ashamed when they read this .....(Willi Pfaff, 15 December 2011 11:25)

Those ppl should be ashamed but they are not, because they have no conscience. instead they have endless ultra-nationalism, and it is ugly, it is deadly.

i am opposed to any destruction of all religious or sacred spaces, cemetaries, etc. it is a problem in many countries, i've often seen it in europe, and in serbia as well. it should not be tolerated, these places need to be respected. that's what this is all about and i applaud hillary and kosova's president.

as for the "patriots" here, can you imagine how many mosques and churches were burned and leveled by yr wonderful forces throughout the 90s?!!! not to mention before. such disgusting hypocrisy.

and the neverending attacks ag. albanians and dissidents here must be stopped! instead they are always facilitated. that is their idea of "morality." shame!!

ciao roberto frisco

trizo

pre 12 godina

It's amazing to read comments that come from: Willi pfaf and roberto frisco..

No matter what a Serb says, whether it's prejudice or not, these guys immediately start repeating the same old "you serbs are in milosevic era" and "no place for you in europe" etc etc

Well, Hilary's country was built on slavery.

Germany tried to take over the whole of Europe with their master plan.

Roberto Frisco (which sounds like an Italian name) you seem to disagree with anyone who does not conform to the occupiers ideas.

Willi the German basically just hates Serbians because like someone else said, his toy is from Kosovo so he is obviously deluded and will never give an honest and unbiased point of view.

Willi can you please recite some history about Kosovo from say... the 6th century? Please recount your opinion of when Kosovo was first put on the map and who occupied Kosovo the longest throughout history and who fought the most wars in the history of Kosovo on Kosovo's soil in order to protect Kosovo?

The problem for Willi & ROberto and all the other small minded short sighted posters out there is: "Freedom of information"

You simply cannot get away with propaganda anymore... even your beloved NATO & KFOR etc are all starting to have the spotlight shone on them.

The rest of the world now sees how aggresive America is and just by our very human nature we will not support the perpetrators.

The internet, mobile phone footage, global news sites, wikileaks...

they are ALL unfavourable for people like you, and also people like USA and NATO.

And It's becoming more and MORE evident that RUSSIA and CHINA are strengthening their grip on the world stage.

Soon will come the time when guys like you will have to live under guys like us :)

There are happy times ahead and perhaps you will join the side of truth and justice :)

Jeton

pre 12 godina

I do not understand many serbian posters on this site they write about history something that is not suported by any forein study, they only like to say Albanians have to go back to Turkey because that is where they come from, and there is lot of histrical facts that Albanias been in balkan long time before Turkish ocupation I will take one excample 11th centry albanian principality of Arta.
In 1912 serbian ocupation of kosovo was for pure political and economical reasons this can justify not only ocupation of kosovo proper but more parts of albania and massacre of local population to chnage ethinc background of region before london conference 1913.
Serbs were never majority in kosovo after 1912 for the fact that state of serbia had so many attempts to colonize kosovo with serbs but their atmpts were only partialy sucesful, if kosovo had mojority serb population colonizing with more serbs probably by now we will not had any albaniasn there,

lukebuyenovich

pre 12 godina

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton:"It's essential that Kosovo forges as pluralistic society"What a wishful thing that is.Just 7 years ago KFOR which included USA troops watched witout interference Pristina Government sponsored burning of Serbian Orthodox Churches,killing and eviction of Serbian people from their land.The document SHE signed is worthless.Kosovo Albanian society is still in terrorists mode barely out of trees.It would take number of decades if not centuries to bring that society to the necessary levels of civilized behavior so essential for any coexistence.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

"According to germans in 1939 the poles were the agressors and the germans the defenders of peace."
(szemi, 15 December 2011 13:44)

According to the Serbs in 1989-1999 everyone else was an aggressor and the Serbs were the defenders of peace (in Bosnia, Croatia, Kosovo)

Nowadays, everybody but some right-wing extremists know that it's not true - not 1939, not 1989.

USA United States of Albania

pre 12 godina

@trizo

Theres NO comparing the USA to Serbia. Serbia has been around since the 14th century and the USA has been around for about 250 years! Look at what America has achieved at home and in the world. Look at what Serbia has achieved in the world and at home... You have some good tennis players. Wow! Thats really impressive. America sent humans into space!

An empire thats been around since the 14th century is reduced to dumping gravel and timber on roads and thats a Serbian idea of "fighting" and "victory". Im just shakin my head over here when I read such silly comments about how "bad" the USA is and how MIGHTY and AMAZING Serbia is. If it wasn't for the USA Serbia would be German! Dont fool yourself...Yugoslavia couldn't of done it without the USA and Britain in WWII. Actually Chetniks lost the war, they were also double agents working with the Germans against the Partizans. Partizans were victorious. Partizans were mutliethnic.

moris

pre 12 godina

The rich cultural heritage in Kosovo is serbian and cannot be stolen by albanians and americans.
And since america what cultural heritage is all about, they think it is albanian.
In what world are we living in ?

Wee Kelpie

pre 12 godina

I well remember a comment made by an Albanian during my early mission days, ''The biggest mistake of the Ottomans (Turks) was to allow the churches to stand, the Serbs always came back. This time there will be no mistake, No churches No serbs''
Having to protect whats left must stick in the throat of some folk.

icj1

pre 12 godina

During Milosevic time KAlbs should have obeyed their YU police and not shoot at police officers. Wasn't it simple? If they had fulfilled that rule they would have had much less problems with their treatment by YU police.
(aaayyy, 15 December 2011 19:28)

You mean all of the Albanians or only those few criminals who shoot at YU police officers ?

icj1

pre 12 godina

KFOR which included USA troops watched witout interference Pristina Government sponsored burning of Serbian Orthodox Churches,killing and eviction of Serbian people from their land.
(lukebuyenovich, 16 December 2011 02:32)


If "watching without intereference" means KFOR shooting, killing, wounding and/or arresting those who attacked serbs and Serbian Orthodox Churches, then I fully agree with your statement.

Wee Kelpie

pre 12 godina

KFOR which included USA troops watched witout interference Pristina Government sponsored burning of Serbian Orthodox Churches,killing and eviction of Serbian people from their land.
(lukebuyenovich, 16 December 2011 02:32)
If "watching without intereference" means KFOR shooting, killing, wounding and/or arresting those who attacked serbs and Serbian Orthodox Churches, then I fully agree with your statement.
(icj1, 17 December 2011 17:16)

Have to agree some with 'icj1'. Very few KFOR units emerged with any credibility during March 2004, US forces was one of them. If my memory serves well, I believe they managed to penetrate as far as Vucitrn until prevented by French KFOR from advancing further, who assured the US contingent that they had everything under control!
Credit where credit due on this occasion

milutin

pre 12 godina

"Serbia has been around since the 14th century"

"USA United States of Albania, 16 December 2011 15:50)
theft of Serbian history is present in the above-mentioned sentence (arount 14th century)
To alk about the history of other people in public is okay with the fact that to be true, but to steal and forge a crime. more than 30 Serbian rulers were in power in Serbia from 6 to 14 century. Here's an example Monasteries Zica or Studenica was build in central Serbia before 14th century. 700yr albo don't counted becouse he com in the balkan in middle of 11th century and don't know nothing before that period. Next time don't still Serb hystory by time please, becouse you sleep from day one near 1000yr in the Balkan and start with your country from 1921 for 90 yr you build bunkers only over 700000 world record...for what?

Willi Pfaff

pre 12 godina

Bravo, and what a difference in tone, substance and thoughfullness, compared to what Belgrade politicians have to say about this matter, and especially to the way serbians make comments on this web site. This shows once more who the aggressors in this conflict are, and who are the one's who want peace and understanding between the balkan countries. Some of those people who spread their hatefull comments about Kosovars on this web site should be ashamed when they read this .....

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

Again, its not the 'USA and Kosovo' signing these agreements but rather USA and Albanian separatists..and signing it on who's behalf? Everything related to culture in Kosovo belongs to Serbs. Anything related to drugs, organs and child prostitutes belongs to the Albanians.

roberto

pre 12 godina

Bravo, and what a difference in tone, substance and thoughfullness, compared to what Belgrade politicians have to say about this matter, and especially to the way serbians make comments on this web site. This shows once more who the aggressors in this conflict are, and who are the one's who want peace and understanding between the balkan countries. Some of those people who spread their hatefull comments about Kosovars on this web site should be ashamed when they read this .....(Willi Pfaff, 15 December 2011 11:25)

Those ppl should be ashamed but they are not, because they have no conscience. instead they have endless ultra-nationalism, and it is ugly, it is deadly.

i am opposed to any destruction of all religious or sacred spaces, cemetaries, etc. it is a problem in many countries, i've often seen it in europe, and in serbia as well. it should not be tolerated, these places need to be respected. that's what this is all about and i applaud hillary and kosova's president.

as for the "patriots" here, can you imagine how many mosques and churches were burned and leveled by yr wonderful forces throughout the 90s?!!! not to mention before. such disgusting hypocrisy.

and the neverending attacks ag. albanians and dissidents here must be stopped! instead they are always facilitated. that is their idea of "morality." shame!!

ciao roberto frisco

Willi Pfaff

pre 12 godina

Well Winston, do not forget what Serbians have done to Kosovoars all through history. And especially do not forget what happened during the famous Milosovich years, when Serbs killed Kosovars by the thousends, did ethnic cleansing, destroyed their homes, mosques, their lives. The agreement signed by the US and Kosovo is a step in the right direction to make sure that things like that will not happen again. Serbs still have to do a lot of reflection on their own history and the awful things which were done by their country. Why doesn't Serbia sign such an agreement protecting the cultural heritage of minorities in their country. Kosov did it .....

femi

pre 12 godina

Dragan/Serbs, please do not bring he II WW into this and critizise Germany.

Germany toady is very different of what it was under dictator Hitler. There is at least 2 million people from FRY Yugosllavia who reside in BRD and are generally perfectley happy.

Germans today have very different ideas of the Hitler Germany had. Serbs however have still those ideas of Milloshoveiq!

Dragan and co you do need lecturing unfortunatley!

Shade

Willi Pfaff

pre 12 godina

What can I say, all these hateful and unreflected comments speak for itself. You just proof once more that Serbia has no place in the EU, and the serbian people who visit and comment on this web site simply do not reflect any basic democratic understanding and are governed by hate and primitive nationalistic ideas: No refection on their countries past; and what is shown here disqualifies you to become a part of the EU. You need to go a long, long way before you can become a part of the free world.

Zirb

pre 12 godina

What a joke, Kosovo's is Serbian...and its Serbia's cultural heritage they covet since they have none of their own. All the monuments, Churches and history is Serbian as it the land it rests on.

szemi

pre 12 godina

Well Winston, do not forget what Serbians have done to Kosovoars all through history. And especially do not forget what happened during the famous Milosovich years, when Serbs killed Kosovars by the thousends, did ethnic cleansing, destroyed their homes, mosques, their lives. The agreement signed by the US and Kosovo is a step in the right direction to make sure that things like that will not happen again. Serbs still have to do a lot of reflection on their own history and the awful things which were done by their country. Why doesn't Serbia sign such an agreement protecting the cultural heritage of minorities in their country. Kosov did it .....
(Willi Pfaff, 15 December 2011 13:35)

All through history serbs have been ethnicly cleansed by albanians and turks from their land the same way you bloodthirsty germans were ethnicly cleansing poles in eastern poland for centuries.POles were lucky to get opportunity to ethincly re-cleanse those territories and push you ethernal troblemakers the inside enemy of Europe behind Odera river .Unfortunatelly serbs have been denied this oppurtunity by western hypocrats for several times but morally they have right to liberate their land and kick the albanian criminals and bootlickers back to Turkey using exactly the same methods albanians used to cleanse them.You cannot liberate your land with soft tools and treat the occupiars in humane way.However I am not disillusioned regarding future.AS long as there are germans in Europe there will always be problems and similarly as long as there are traces of osman imperialism on the balkans there will never be peace over there.

winston

pre 12 godina

Plaff, you would be more credible if you were honest. Albanians destroyed Serbian monasteries, desecrated Serbian graveyards, drove Serbs from their homes, and yes, even murdered some of them, and you have the gall to BS here about Albanians wanting peace. You are the one who should bow his head in shame - you and those people in that freak show in DC.

Wally

pre 12 godina

Fine words Madam Secretary, shame they have no substance. Another attempt at daylight robbery. God will punish you, for He is the greatest schemer of all.

PRO-SERBIA

pre 12 godina

What a big joke done by the Yankees. The Republic of Serbia is the "sole" responsible for the preservation of Serbia's cultural heritage in kosovo, churches, monuments, etc.

These "separatists" in pristina are the one's who destroyed and vandalized many churches and monuments in the past.

NOw the Yankees is entrusting them to protect it. WHAT A BIG JOKE...

MikeC

pre 12 godina

"Jahjaga said Kosovo had a rich cultural heritage"

Albanians taking credit for Serbias cultural heritage, something albanians tried to destroy in 2004. This hypocricy makes me sick!

Dragan

pre 12 godina

Willi, as a German, you can not lecture anyone about human rights and protection of minorities, you hypocrite. Serbs are the most tolerant society in the Balkans, and Serbia is full of minorities who are treated with complete equal rights. How are minorities treated in your fake, illegal and immoral 'state' of Kosovo? They need escorts to go grocery shopping and have to live in ghettos behind barbed wire. Serbian grandmothers get attacked by albanian youths when they hear them speaking Serbian. In Croatia they still hold Nazi concerts and celebrate a genocide as a national holiday. You Germans are a real piece of work. You seem to have learned well from Goebbels how to spread lies and propoganda.

Jeton

pre 12 godina

I do not understand many serbian posters on this site they write about history something that is not suported by any forein study, they only like to say Albanians have to go back to Turkey because that is where they come from, and there is lot of histrical facts that Albanias been in balkan long time before Turkish ocupation I will take one excample 11th centry albanian principality of Arta.
In 1912 serbian ocupation of kosovo was for pure political and economical reasons this can justify not only ocupation of kosovo proper but more parts of albania and massacre of local population to chnage ethinc background of region before london conference 1913.
Serbs were never majority in kosovo after 1912 for the fact that state of serbia had so many attempts to colonize kosovo with serbs but their atmpts were only partialy sucesful, if kosovo had mojority serb population colonizing with more serbs probably by now we will not had any albaniasn there,

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

"According to germans in 1939 the poles were the agressors and the germans the defenders of peace."
(szemi, 15 December 2011 13:44)

According to the Serbs in 1989-1999 everyone else was an aggressor and the Serbs were the defenders of peace (in Bosnia, Croatia, Kosovo)

Nowadays, everybody but some right-wing extremists know that it's not true - not 1939, not 1989.

Roger7

pre 12 godina

Little sinceity here.

Mrs. Clinton you need to denounce using places of worship as public toilets and the destruction of Christian and Jewish cemeteries.

All for show ... What a sham.

Joe A

pre 12 godina

Did she also visit the sites that were destroyed in 2004 under the watchful eye of KFOR? What did the Americans do then to protect them?

Svetislav

pre 12 godina

In Germany there is a saying:

"Den Bock zum Gärtner machen...!"

what means the same like:

"to set a fox to keep the geese"

That is what they agreed on.

-.-

szemi

pre 12 godina

Bravo, and what a difference in tone, substance and thoughfullness, compared to what Belgrade politicians have to say about this matter, and especially to the way serbians make comments on this web site. This shows once more who the aggressors in this conflict are, and who are the one's who want peace and understanding between the balkan countries. Some of those people who spread their hatefull comments about Kosovars on this web site should be ashamed when they read this .....
(Willi Pfaff, 15 December 2011 11:25)

According to germans in 1939 the poles were the agressors and the germans the defenders of peace.Reading your comment I must admit your german mentality has not changed regarding the interpratation of things that happen in reality.You are still hitlerists at heart who pretend to be democrats.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 12 godina

Old pic of now President Atifete Jahjaga. Now , I understand why Serbs can not move forward just by having a news agency using an old pic from several years ago. It was so easy to use the real pic when President Jahjaga met with Mrs. Clinton.
Feel sorry for Serbia.

Analyst

pre 12 godina

"Jahjaga said Kosovo had a rich cultural heritage, expressed in the architectural values, in the objects of worship and religious monuments, which testified that different peoples lived there together for centuries, and added that Kosovo was a multiethnic society, which wanted to build good neighborhood relations with all the countries in the region."

Yes, and a lot of this 'rich cultural heritage' and 'religious monuments' were destroyed by the Kosovo Albanian mob in 2004. You can sign everything, but how can anyone with a sane mind expect protection from the same people who destroyed it?

Funnily, the oldest genuine Kosovo monument might be the Clinton statue in Pristina :)

ZZ

pre 12 godina

"Did you bring my order of a dozen kidneys and a liver with you? Oh..just cash? Send my hugs and kisses to Snaky. Bubba sends his love too and he says he's still waiting for his statue! Ha ha..."

Zoran

pre 12 godina

Now this is funny. All words with absolutely no substance. Albanians have been destroying all Serbian culture or attempting to thieve it. Also they have been attempting to expel all non-Albanians and they claim "Kosova" is multi-ethnic? The US is in a deluded state and it is no wonder the rest of the world has rejected them. Not even their Southern American neighbours want anything to do with the US. Check -> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-16021120

Bye bye US, out with the old and in with the new. You failed and so will your "Kosova" and BiH delusions.

Dragan

pre 12 godina

It's interesting how Willi just ignores facts calls Serbs 'hateful' when they present him with the truth. I have never seen him criticize any of the endless hateful comments on here from albanian trolls. But I guess that's because he loves his albanian boy toys, and does not want to offend them.

Brian

pre 12 godina

Yes, I totally trust that the people responsible for the destruction or damage of hundreds of Serbian orthodox churches and graves will make sure other churches and graves are protected. I am sure this monastery will be destroyed by Albanians in the future. The government supports destruction of Serbian things.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

Willi Pfaff,

During Milosevic time KAlbs should have obeyed their YU police and not shoot at police officers. Wasn't it simple? If they had fulfilled that rule they would have had much less problems with their treatment by YU police.

Jeff

pre 12 godina

Willi-if you are`german get ready for some serious smackdown. The world is tired of you blackmailing everyone to bail you out of the mess you made. Germany's history should mean you should keep your mouth shut when it comes to lecturing other nations on their behaviour. Who would want to be in a club with you guys as members anyway? It's all falling apart for you. Take care of your own problems and stop nosing into other peoples business.

Janez-Beograd

pre 12 godina

What can I say, all these hateful and unreflected comments speak for itself. You just proof once more that Serbia has no place in the EU, and the serbian people who visit and comment on this web site simply do not reflect any basic democratic understanding and are governed by hate and primitive nationalistic ideas: No refection on their countries past; and what is shown here disqualifies you to become a part of the EU. You need to go a long, long way before you can become a part of the free world.
(Willi Pfaff, 15 December 2011 15:46)

Willi, there is no hatred in Dragan's comments but yours. Have you ever been to Serbia? if you were you will see many different nationalisties cohabiting together, no problem with the exception of KLA controlled Kosovo. In my neighbourhood in New belgrade there are over a dozen different nationalities. Me a Slovene and I live with my parents and brother. My boss in work is Serb as are many of my friends. my mechanic a Croat, big Partizan fan too :) I drink in a bar run by a Bosniak and I eat a burek nearly everyday for breakfast prepared from a kiosk by a Macedonian, A gypsy guy comes by and does odd jobs in my apartment block. I have a K-Albanian neighbour who I consider one of my best friends. Hey we even got Chinese people :) I know a couple of Arab guys here. Eveybody knows me and knows them. there is no problems, no hatred. Only violence you get here are from football hooligans. However any time I go to Split to see a friend I get some problems. Last time my windshield was smashed and I got into a fight in a bar all because of the plates on my car and when I talk. I admit my Partizan sticker on my fender did not help.

I would recommend that you visit Novi Sad too. You will be surprised how tolerant and easygoing Serbia is. Stop reading the crap in Die Welt and Bild and experience Serbia for yourself. I give you my own personal experience.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

(Jeton, 15 December 2011 16:17)
US/Germany/the West want to give all of Kosovo under full Albanian control. It cannot be long-term solution, since it isn't just.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

"Jahjaga said Kosovo had a rich cultural heritage, expressed in the architectural values, in the objects of worship and religious monuments, which testified that different peoples lived there together for centuries, and added that Kosovo was a multiethnic society, which wanted to build good neighborhood relations with all the countries in the region."

LOL yes. Kosovo's cultural heritage is Serbian, Roman, and Turkish. I wonder why Hillary mentioned a Serbian Orthodox monastery only? Could she find anything Albanian other than the gaudy buildings of Pristina and the statue of her husband? :)

Mike

pre 12 godina

It's take's a clueless idiot and young branless woman to come up with this stupidity! Who the hell are they fooling? All of Kosovo is Serbia's. The monuments are all Serbian, well maybe not... I'm sure that the almighty Albanian occupiers built an outhouse somewhere.

USA United States of Albania

pre 12 godina

@trizo

Theres NO comparing the USA to Serbia. Serbia has been around since the 14th century and the USA has been around for about 250 years! Look at what America has achieved at home and in the world. Look at what Serbia has achieved in the world and at home... You have some good tennis players. Wow! Thats really impressive. America sent humans into space!

An empire thats been around since the 14th century is reduced to dumping gravel and timber on roads and thats a Serbian idea of "fighting" and "victory". Im just shakin my head over here when I read such silly comments about how "bad" the USA is and how MIGHTY and AMAZING Serbia is. If it wasn't for the USA Serbia would be German! Dont fool yourself...Yugoslavia couldn't of done it without the USA and Britain in WWII. Actually Chetniks lost the war, they were also double agents working with the Germans against the Partizans. Partizans were victorious. Partizans were mutliethnic.

Jesus saves

pre 12 godina

Don't know why some serbs are so upset by this deal? By doing this America has highlighted the situation of serb churches and monasteries across Kosovo. America has recognized Kosovo so its natural that they turn to Pristina. Joe Biden did a similar thing in the past where he warned albanians not to desecrate and vandalize these places of worship. After all, albanians wouldn't dare to upset the hand that feeds them.

trizo

pre 12 godina

It's amazing to read comments that come from: Willi pfaf and roberto frisco..

No matter what a Serb says, whether it's prejudice or not, these guys immediately start repeating the same old "you serbs are in milosevic era" and "no place for you in europe" etc etc

Well, Hilary's country was built on slavery.

Germany tried to take over the whole of Europe with their master plan.

Roberto Frisco (which sounds like an Italian name) you seem to disagree with anyone who does not conform to the occupiers ideas.

Willi the German basically just hates Serbians because like someone else said, his toy is from Kosovo so he is obviously deluded and will never give an honest and unbiased point of view.

Willi can you please recite some history about Kosovo from say... the 6th century? Please recount your opinion of when Kosovo was first put on the map and who occupied Kosovo the longest throughout history and who fought the most wars in the history of Kosovo on Kosovo's soil in order to protect Kosovo?

The problem for Willi & ROberto and all the other small minded short sighted posters out there is: "Freedom of information"

You simply cannot get away with propaganda anymore... even your beloved NATO & KFOR etc are all starting to have the spotlight shone on them.

The rest of the world now sees how aggresive America is and just by our very human nature we will not support the perpetrators.

The internet, mobile phone footage, global news sites, wikileaks...

they are ALL unfavourable for people like you, and also people like USA and NATO.

And It's becoming more and MORE evident that RUSSIA and CHINA are strengthening their grip on the world stage.

Soon will come the time when guys like you will have to live under guys like us :)

There are happy times ahead and perhaps you will join the side of truth and justice :)

Dragan

pre 12 godina

Dragan and co you do need lecturing unfortunatley!

Shade
(femi, 15 December 2011 16:31)

Not from Serb hating German hypocrites and albanian KLA loving trolls I don't. But thanks for your concern.
Cheers!!

Ratko

pre 12 godina

What are these occupiers signing? Is it all the things they are stealing from Serbia and claiming as their own now? What low pathetic evil people. They are trying so hard to change and distort history with their non-stop propaganda. americans & albanians learned very well from goebells how to use propaganda and spread lies.

Steve B.

pre 12 godina

Anything related to drugs, organs and child prostitutes belongs to the Albanians.
(Ari Gold, 15 December 2011 10:41)

Correction: the organs actually belonged to non-Albanians. Well at least they did originally.

lukebuyenovich

pre 12 godina

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton:"It's essential that Kosovo forges as pluralistic society"What a wishful thing that is.Just 7 years ago KFOR which included USA troops watched witout interference Pristina Government sponsored burning of Serbian Orthodox Churches,killing and eviction of Serbian people from their land.The document SHE signed is worthless.Kosovo Albanian society is still in terrorists mode barely out of trees.It would take number of decades if not centuries to bring that society to the necessary levels of civilized behavior so essential for any coexistence.

Bugar Skoplje

pre 12 godina

"I do not understand many serbian posters on this site they write about history something that is not suported by any forein study, they only like to say Albanians have to go back to Turkey because that is where they come from, and there is lot of histrical facts that Albanias been in balkan long time before Turkish ocupation I will take one excample 11th centry albanian principality of Arta".
@Jeton

For your understanding many albo's posters on this site they write about history and claim to be illirians before any Serb poster. But serb diging old books and founded that you com from Sicily in 11 century.
Here is part from old Book for your reference in latin:
"Agrenorum natio occidentem versus in Sicilia naval bus et terrestribus Greacorum viribus , atque nisi accusatus domination capesendae, cuius fidei imperium universum datum erat Georgius ille Maniaces e medio sublatus esset , et aliis imposatic essent res belliace ,fortasse Greacis nunc esset subiecta insula tam magna atque celeries et urbibus cincta maximis neque ceterorum bonorum ullo carens. ...
Your people never see Balkan before ( March 1043 with George Ille Maniaces in city Drach).
It's not nice to use public place and claim "we are oldest people in the Balkan illirians , or "we are here before Serbs" for that your lier must have proff but readers don't liked incorrect statement.
You are right about Turks on Balkan they com near 300 yr after you Turks know for original Albania better than me. Be happy and have nice day.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

The agreement signed by the US and Kosovo is a step in the right direction to make sure that things like that will not happen again. (Willi Pfaff, 15 December 2011 13:35)

LOL what things? Albanian desecration of Serbian and Jewish cemeteries? Albanians pooping in Serbian churches? Albanians trying to rewrite history and call Serbian Orthodox sites "Byzantine Illyrian"? If it's all of the above, then yes it is a step in the right direction since the individual selected to be president of Kosovo by the US Ambassador has now signed a binding agreement with the US to no longer use these sites of cultural heritage as places for Albanians to vent their anger against.

I wonder if this also covers preserving the historical center of Prizren, which many Albanians are upset about supporting because of the role the SPC will be given in preserving its monuments. Will they at least be insured the next time someone steals the tiles off the roof? :)

icj1

pre 12 godina

KFOR which included USA troops watched witout interference Pristina Government sponsored burning of Serbian Orthodox Churches,killing and eviction of Serbian people from their land.
(lukebuyenovich, 16 December 2011 02:32)


If "watching without intereference" means KFOR shooting, killing, wounding and/or arresting those who attacked serbs and Serbian Orthodox Churches, then I fully agree with your statement.

moris

pre 12 godina

The rich cultural heritage in Kosovo is serbian and cannot be stolen by albanians and americans.
And since america what cultural heritage is all about, they think it is albanian.
In what world are we living in ?

icj1

pre 12 godina

During Milosevic time KAlbs should have obeyed their YU police and not shoot at police officers. Wasn't it simple? If they had fulfilled that rule they would have had much less problems with their treatment by YU police.
(aaayyy, 15 December 2011 19:28)

You mean all of the Albanians or only those few criminals who shoot at YU police officers ?

Wee Kelpie

pre 12 godina

I well remember a comment made by an Albanian during my early mission days, ''The biggest mistake of the Ottomans (Turks) was to allow the churches to stand, the Serbs always came back. This time there will be no mistake, No churches No serbs''
Having to protect whats left must stick in the throat of some folk.

Wee Kelpie

pre 12 godina

KFOR which included USA troops watched witout interference Pristina Government sponsored burning of Serbian Orthodox Churches,killing and eviction of Serbian people from their land.
(lukebuyenovich, 16 December 2011 02:32)
If "watching without intereference" means KFOR shooting, killing, wounding and/or arresting those who attacked serbs and Serbian Orthodox Churches, then I fully agree with your statement.
(icj1, 17 December 2011 17:16)

Have to agree some with 'icj1'. Very few KFOR units emerged with any credibility during March 2004, US forces was one of them. If my memory serves well, I believe they managed to penetrate as far as Vucitrn until prevented by French KFOR from advancing further, who assured the US contingent that they had everything under control!
Credit where credit due on this occasion

milutin

pre 12 godina

"Serbia has been around since the 14th century"

"USA United States of Albania, 16 December 2011 15:50)
theft of Serbian history is present in the above-mentioned sentence (arount 14th century)
To alk about the history of other people in public is okay with the fact that to be true, but to steal and forge a crime. more than 30 Serbian rulers were in power in Serbia from 6 to 14 century. Here's an example Monasteries Zica or Studenica was build in central Serbia before 14th century. 700yr albo don't counted becouse he com in the balkan in middle of 11th century and don't know nothing before that period. Next time don't still Serb hystory by time please, becouse you sleep from day one near 1000yr in the Balkan and start with your country from 1921 for 90 yr you build bunkers only over 700000 world record...for what?