Tadić: Serbia was asked to recognize Kosovo

If "Kosovo independence" is a done deal why are certain EU countries still exerting pressure on Serbia to recognize?

Well, well, now the rat admits it after Dacic already let the cat of the bag. Damage control. He knows he's been a liar all these years and now he's trying to show he's actually a patriot.
Enough with these Vichy Serbs like Tadic, we need Kostunica back.
Cheers!!

"We did not accept it, nor will we be accepting it," he stated.
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We can thank Kostunica for that. The simple fact is you can't accept it without breaking the constitutional law. You will be up for treason if you do but I'm sure the sell-outs have some tricks up their sleeves.

Albanians were ethnically cleansing Serbs from Kosovo - good ordinary people - long before Milosevic.

I guess that there are lots of Albanians queuing up to apologise for that. (?!)

Serbia must make it clear that it will not give up its ownership of Kosovo, and if the udi persists in breach of 1244 then at some stage there may be an end to the level of cooperation that Serbia is prepared to give.

Any solution has to be to the satisfaction of Serbia, and recognition of Kosovo would not comply.

A solution is needed and Serbia has made it clear that 1244 is still the legal basis. Independence is not.

On that basis, Serbia should join the EU as soon as possible.

Without that, Serbia should decide not to join. If the EU want more, then that must be the end of the matter. It is then for the EU to be adaptable.

Serbia has complied step-by-step and great changes have taken place. There comes a time however where Serbia should draw a line in the sand and say - no further. The EU is prepared to do that, so why shouldn't Serbia. That then sets the scene for new solutions. Serbia is prepared to take a peaceful path - agreements can be made.

I would not blame Tadic for trying - it is the right thing to do - but I would not blame him for failing if the EU decide to make the situation untenable for Serbian politics. It was always going to be the case that the EU was going to make Kosovo an issue - perhaps Tadic has been made a fool of - or more likely he has gone along with the only route available for bringing some prosperity to Serbia. The mess from the Milosevic era was always going to take generations to recover from.

If the EU are making Tadic's politics untenable, then the EU are effectively inviting a resurgence in nationalism - a shame given the great progress that has been made in Serbia so far. I hope that the next elections do not see the kind of people coming to power who will destabilise the place again - I would blame the EU if that happens.

The people of Northern Kosovo in particular are being told they have to be ruled from the South of them, whereas their heads and hearts naturally look North to where their government has always been. There has to be some understanding that they are not going to look South, and they are going to continue to look North.

If the EU wants to continue to humiliate Serbia by supporting the continued theft of its land and the results of Albanian ethnic cleansing of Serbs from Kosovo, then that is the EU's loss.

Five EU member states don't recognize Kosovo, the majority of UN member states don't recognize Kosovo - so why should Serbia recognize Kosovo then? That's ridiculous.

@Tadic

About time you told the truth!

great picture of party boy tadic dont have a care in the world! what is he gonna do for serbia todayhuh? im sure he will think of some more lies if hes got any left! old skool serb george miletich

it´s somehow funny ( really, I mean it ) to read those comments by our k-albanian friends about Serbia "losing five more years" and other rather stupid thoughts...

kids, Serbia is not that bad off, as your wishful thinking, or let´s rather call it desperate babbling is expressing it!

it´s YOU, down there in occupied southern Serbia, who should start thinking, ...since it is YOU who is stuck in a situation where nothing is going the way you want it.

but of course, it is still too early for your desperate nationalist souls to admit it, you will continue to write about how "independent" you are, and how it is " a done deal " and so on...

but, deep inside, ...you know that this is only empty ( albanian ) words...

as a sidenote:
http://www.transconflict.com/2011/12/serbia-and-the-eu-who-needs-who-132/

time works for Serbia, actually.

and that is good.

Well Boris has finally come clean and told the truth about Kosovo. Its better late than never. Now he should put that car hes pictured in into first gear and head south to his ancestral homeland in Montenegro and start a new political career in that country. Buckle up Boris, its going to be a rough ride!

Sooner or later Serbia WILL HAVE to recognize Kosovo.

Claiming that they did not know that this was a condition, it's just plain stupid.

However it will take only few months of Kosutnica's governing (if the man ever gets elected) for Serbia to recognize Kosova. For diaspora warriors, it's just very simple to ask for Serbia to stay strong, the reality is that Serbia depends totally on the EU and US loans. Without those, Kostunica government will fall in a matter of months (if it ever gets created).

What strikes me as ironic is that I believe Kostunica doesn't even want to get elected. He doesn't want to deal with K-issue, he can't, no one can. He just wants to be in opposition forever and use the K-issue as a simple tool to hold on to its comfy parliamentary chair.

Look at the article about the government boycotting the talks in parliament. All those fat asses just don't want to deal with the issue. They won't touch K-issue with a 9 foot pole. Everyone just want to stay out of it, let Tadic take the blame, while they rip the benefits of having such issue hanging in the air forever.
It's simply disgusting to see K-issue being thrown as hot potato.

"I hope that you and your friends will finally understand that the non-recognising of Kosovo by the 5 EU members and other UN members has nothing to do with protecting or supporting Serbia interest, nor the international law. "
(Ilir, 13 December 2011 19:58)

I agree, it's not about Serbs, it's not about law, it has only to do with not allowing a precedence be made: That every ethnic minority living in a country can unilaterally secede and create an own 'country', especially not if it is ruled by a group of criminals who turned this place into a gangster's paradise and the main European hub for drugs and human trafficking. This cannot be in the interest of any country.

"Thanking Russia for the humanitarian aid sent to Kosovo, he added that no convoy carrying aid to Serbs in Kosovo should be stopped as they were today “the most vulnerable ethnic group in Europe.”"

The best humanitarian aid Russia can send to Kosovo are Russian bayonettes. Period. The only viable alternative to "few Russian bayonets in Kosovo i Metohija" is the "a lot of Russian bayonets in Kosovo i Metohija"

This was nothing New.
What an selfdeceiver this is !.

I Quote Tadic -

The president concluded by saying that the situation now was "about a political fight", and that he was "convinced Serbia will persuade her European partners that this was impossible".

Comment . Off cause it is impossible !

Why cant you then drop the Matter of EU integration ?
EU whos Memberstates is also Nato Members allmost all of them,
will never accept a No Recognition of their Policy regarding Kosovo.

This Mr Tadic will go down.

Arn.Sweden.

Why not a referendum for the people in Serbia if they agree with the plans of president Tadic to recognize Kosovo?
I can predict/forecast that most citizen of Serbia will disagree.

So If Tadic and Co want to fill their pockets and betray Serbia and it's citizen in turn, then he is not in the right position to be president.

If kosovo was a colony or Slovenia I can understand but kosovo is Serbia and without it is no Serbia!

"We did not accept it, nor will we be accepting it," he stated.

Very soon the EU money that Serbia gets will be cut on the same amount that Serbia spends to finance the parallel structures in N.Kosovo.Close to 500 million EU.Then you will be asked again in March. Then some other programs wil be cut.And so on. Budget is a headache for every government that comes in power.

"We did not accept it, nor will we be accepting it," he stated. As long as you know the score....forget about EU...

"I hope that the next elections do not see the kind of people coming to power who will destabilise the place again - I would blame the EU if that happens. "

No. Just like THE WEST was not to blame that Milosevic became and stayed in power, the EU will not be to blame if Serbs decide to elect an extremist/nationalist government again. It will be their own fault, and they will have to bear the consequences of 5 more lost years.

There’re billions of EU euros lining up for the region, both Albanian’s and Serb’s know that, any derail to the process would be suicidal.
(Ilir, 13 December 2011 19:58)

Of course. KAlb and KSerb president B.Tadic suggested the quickest way to the EU - Kosovo is admitted to the EU as part of Serbia. Agree to it, don't deny EU money.

Five EU member states don't recognize Kosovo, the majority of UN member states don't recognize Kosovo - so why should Serbia recognize Kosovo then? That's ridiculous.
(Comm. Parrisson, 13 December 2011 18:59)

I hope that you and your friends will finally understand that the non-recognising of Kosovo by the 5 EU members and other UN members has nothing to do with protecting or supporting Serbia interest, nor the international law. In fact, Serbia by not recognising Kosovo is playing on their hands which suit their interests to well.
I think Serbia will recognise Kosovo (with some sort of string attached). The prospect of joining EU in return is too much of a gamble for Tadic, the Serbs simply cannot lose this chance.
There’re billions of EU euros lining up for the region, both Albanian’s and Serb’s know that, any derail to the process would be suicidal.

time works for Serbia, actually.

and that is good.
(Jovan, 13 December 2011 19:01)


time works for serbia,time has workt for serbia long time ago now is our time you like it or not thats a fakt. and for you comments hire who cares about serbia anymore serbia is joke for EU and US.lol

Very soon the EU money that Serbia gets will be cut on the same amount that Serbia spends to finance the parallel structures in N.Kosovo.Close to 500 million EU.Then you will be asked again in March. Then some other programs wil be cut.And so on. Budget is a headache for every government that comes in power.
(Mark, 13 December 2011 18:29)

Based on what information exactly? The little television in your headperhaps?

Based on what information exactly? The little television in your headperhaps?
(Max Headroom, 13 December 2011 19:04)

The same television that was telling you serbs that recognizing kosovo was not a condition for Serbia's EU membership.

Tadić pointed out that Serbia had no intention to give up on UN Security Council Resolution 1244 because it had brought peace to Kosovo and Metohija, saving human lives.

Is he pointing the way to change 1244? Poor people, have to suffer again for the sake of some sadic hypocratic politician

Mr. Tadic! forget about the EU and concentrate in improving your economy. strengthening relation with Russia, China, India and other countries.

Continue the fight for Kosovo province in what ever means. If you are still insisting for the EU seat then quit and let Kostunica be the President of Serbia.

I hope you do understand how another conflict in Ballkans would end, with or without your bayonets ( Who's using bayonets today anyway).
(miri, 14 December 2011 02:32)

With sufficient number of troops it won't even begin and maybe that's the way to go. Today's 'bayonets' are 3M: MiG - Merkava - Megaton. That's what I am asking for, the more of each the better, under professional control and not some wild freelancers chasing each other.

Analyst ….. in reply to your comment about my earlier posting ….

People retrench into their own selves when there is apparently only attack from the outside. A lot went wrong under Milosevic, but the people who voted for him thought they were voting for the only person who would defend them. Not a point of view I ever have agreed with, but one that was (and to quite an extent is) held in Serbia.

My comment is that given the marginal victory of Tadic at the last elections, if the EU choose to undermine his very pro-EU policy, then they should not be surprised if the people start to think that it was all a false promise. That then leaves the way open for some other party to act in a less constructive fashion and who knows what destabilisation could then result.

Merkel's statement this summer about stopping parallel institutions in NKosovo was incredibly clumsy, but showed the way things were going to go. It was a humiliation to Tadic - I think that the heavy hand is still being used instead of reasonable diplomacy, and that the time will come when Serbia will need to stand up for itself again. Tadic is not a Milosevic, and yet Serbia is still being treated as if he were. That is potentially wrong of the EU (well Merkel and a few other heavy hands) and could backfire.

Get a grip

I was not playing the 'abused Serbian card' - I was just pointing out what may happen.

That said, the majority in NKosovo are not going to look south for their governance.

Also, I stand by the statement that Albanians have been ethnically cleansing peaceful Serbs from long before Milosevic. There are two sides to the issue. The reward of an effectively mono ethnic state is wrong, and the UN did not take Kosovo from Serbia, but just required strong autonomy. The udi attempt is a breach of 1244.

Said Tadic, "an imaginary man asked me to recognize Kosovo, but I refused. Please elect me again, I am a nationalist."

"I hope that you and your friends will finally understand that the non-recognising of Kosovo by the 5 EU members and other UN members has nothing to do with protecting or supporting Serbia interest, nor the international law. "
-Albanian troll

And you actually think the US, UK, or Germany give a damn about Albanians? Wake up. The only way I would believe that they did this for Albanians is if they did it so they had a place to send every Albanian from their country. To get rid of the global headache you cause. They might want Kosovo to be the Albanian landfill.

I hope that you and your friends will finally understand that the non-recognising of Kosovo by the 5 EU members and other UN members has nothing to do with protecting or supporting Serbia interest, nor the international law. In fact, Serbia by not recognising Kosovo is playing on their hands which suit their interests to well.
I think Serbia will recognise Kosovo (with some sort of string attached). The prospect of joining EU in return is too much of a gamble for Tadic, the Serbs simply cannot lose this chance.
There’re billions of EU euros lining up for the region, both Albanian’s and Serb’s know that, any derail to the process would be suicidal.
(Ilir, 13 December 2011 19:58)


I hate to tell you that those billions of Euros don’t exist as the EU has exhausted its reserves trying to save current members from bankruptcy. There is no hidden pot of gold anywhere – this is the myth that is being sold to the Serbs and Croats in that everything will be rosey once they join.

One other point that led to this situation is the EU’s stupid foreign policy program which based on the United States with wars left right and centre, then having to pay to keep afloat Kosovo, its money pit has run dry and it has had negotiate with China and Russia for investment into their Eurobonds.

The Serbs would be insane to recognise Kosovo on the EU’s terms considering the west is not only weak but there is no chance of it coming back to power.

Also, I stand by the statement that Albanians have been ethnically cleansing peaceful Serbs from long before Milosevic. There are two sides to the issue. The reward of an effectively mono ethnic state is wrong, and the UN did not take Kosovo from Serbia, but just required strong autonomy. The udi attempt is a breach of 1244.
(Bob, 14 December 2011 15:16)
The UN did not phyically remove Kosovo from Serbia just any power, control over it politically, physically, or economically. Which is more embarassing than to have actually removed it.
Actually we had a similar situation in the US in the 50's-70's. Blacks started integrating the white neighborhoods and the bigoted whites still controlled the govt and everything else but did not want to live next to a black family so they moved. Now were they ethnically cleansed from the area?? If you were a bigoted white you probably would say yes. Just the same as you claim that Serbs were cleansed when actually they just hated the Albanians so much they did not want to live with them! Hence the quest of Milosevic to create an ethnically pure Serbian Kosovo, same as you today.

Five EU member states don't recognize Kosovo, the majority of UN member states don't recognize Kosovo - so why should Serbia recognize Kosovo then? That's ridiculous.
(Comm. Parrisson, 13 December 2011 18:59)
Most of the countries that have refused to recognize Kosovo do so for interests of their own not out of support for Serbia. Even Russia the only real supporter of Serbia, is only using the item as a pawn in its chess game with the US. Notice the wedge it is causing betweent the north serbs and Belgrade. If Russia's alliance were with Serbia it would live up to their earlier statements of what is acceptable to Serbia is acceptable to Russia. Now Serbia wants to end the barricade issue in Kosovo but Russia is backstabbing the govt by encouraging it. Why? To irritate the west. So here it is plain as day it is not Serbia that is the focus of Russia but how to use the situation to Russia's advantage. Amazing how many here that call the Albanians foolish in thinking that the west really cares about them, truly believe Russia is acting out of some deep concern for their brethern.
Majority of UN members not recognizing have not made an official decision for any number of reasons.
The 5 EU members not recognizing are also among the weakest links in the EU chain and are very fragile so I would not count on their solid support.

People retrench into their own selves when there is apparently only attack from the outside. A lot went wrong under Milosevic, but the people who voted for him thought they were voting for the only person who would defend them. Not a point of view I ever have agreed with, but one that was (and to quite an extent is) held in Serbia.

My comment is that given the marginal victory of Tadic at the last elections, if the EU choose to undermine his very pro-EU policy, then they should not be surprised if the people start to think that it was all a false promise. That then leaves the way open for some other party to act in a less constructive fashion and who knows what destabilisation could then result.

Merkel's statement this summer about stopping parallel institutions in NKosovo was incredibly clumsy, but showed the way things were going to go. It was a humiliation to Tadic - I think that the heavy hand is still being used instead of reasonable diplomacy, and that the time will come when Serbia will need to stand up for itself again. Tadic is not a Milosevic, and yet Serbia is still being treated as if he were. That is potentially wrong of the EU (well Merkel and a few other heavy hands) and could backfire.
(Bob, 14 December 2011 06:26
You need to quit playing the abused Serbia card. Most of EU have been upfront with Serbia, while they have said that outright recognition was not a requirement for Serbia to join the EU, anyone with a brain knows that just like Kosovo cannot join the EU with 5 members not recognizing the country, Serbia cannot join the EU with 22 members contesting what Serbia claims its borders. Serbia has never been promised that it can join while claiming Kosovo as part of it. The whole road map has never included Kosovo at all, everything Serbia has submitted to the EU has been sans Kosovo. Now all of a sudden everyone wants to say that they are being betrayed. The betrayal is only in what you wanted to accept as reality.
Serbia has even been given an accelerated chance not given to anyone else simply to heal the bruised pride of Serbs over Kosovo.

You say that Tadic is no Milosevic, maybe yes maybe no. Kosovo became a protectorate for a reason. Serbia claims it can never let Kosovo go, but that means the people too, and SErbia today the same as in the past had done everything possible to show that they want Kosovo without the people, and that my friend is exactly the Milosevic goal, so how can you say they are not the same.
The UN with approval of ALL UNSC members took the unprecedented step of removing Kosovo from Serbian control, it was Serbia's responsibility to show that it had changed and would protect the inhabitants of Kosovo, and they not only failed they did not even show an interest.

The UN with approval of ALL UNSC members took the unprecedented step of removing Kosovo from Serbian control, it was Serbia's responsibility to show that it had changed and would protect the inhabitants of Kosovo, and they not only failed they did not even show an interest.
(get a grip, 14 December 2011 10:40)

Very strange comment. Don't you know that US/NATO decided long ago (1998-1999) to make Kosovo independent in several years, regardless of what Serbia would show or wouldn't show.

@Haris:

my dear k-albanian friend, ... your despair is literally jumping out of the flatscreen-monitor... =)

time "workt" for Serbia, and it still works for Serbia, ...there is no doubt about that, especially if you look at the recent developments. I won´t go further into detail, since you wouldn´t understand or even try to understand...

but, may I give you the little advise to work on your english-skills!?

you know, some day, you will have to apply for a job down there in southern Serbia, and...with only albanian, you´ll be lost. think about that, in your very own interest!

The best humanitarian aid Russia can send to Kosovo are Russian bayonettes. Period. The only viable alternative to "few Russian bayonets in Kosovo i Metohija" is the "a lot of Russian bayonets in Kosovo i Metohija"
(Ataman, 13 December 2011 21:53)

I hope you do understand how another conflict in Ballkans would end, with or without your bayonets ( Who's using bayonets today anyway).

If Russia's alliance were with Serbia it would live up to their earlier statements of what is acceptable to Serbia is acceptable to Russia. Now Serbia wants to end the barricade issue in Kosovo but Russia is backstabbing the govt by encouraging it. Why? To irritate the west. So here it is plain as day it is not Serbia that is the focus of Russia but how to use the situation to Russia's advantage.
Majority of UN members not recognizing have not made an official decision for any number of reasons.
The 5 EU members not recognizing are also among the weakest links in the EU chain and are very fragile so I would not count on their solid support.
(a New Day, 14 December 2011 08:12)

And what should we do? We have recieved dozens of thousand of requests for citizenship, should Russian officials just throw them into dustbin or pretend that the requests haven't been recieved because the mail doesn't work?

One other point that led to this situation is the EU’s stupid foreign policy program which based on the United States with wars left right and centre, then having to pay to keep afloat Kosovo, its money pit has run dry and it has had negotiate with China and Russia for investment into their Eurobonds.
(sj, 14 December 2011 04:18)


How did that Eurobonds deal go ? Did the rich Europeans manage to outsmart again the poor Russians and Chinese to have them give money to the rich Europeans ?

And what should we do? We have recieved dozens of thousand of requests for citizenship, should Russian officials just throw them into dustbin or pretend that the requests haven't been recieved because the mail doesn't work?
(aaayyy, 15 December 2011 00:08)
Don't know whether you are Russian or Serbian from your post but lets take it from a Russian perspective.

Currently you have a huge number of protestors to the recent elections, and the govt is cracking down on them. Should they request help from the US and the US is unable to do anything but instead sends in huge amounts of "humanitarian aid" to the protestors just to show support. would you not see this as a way to undermine the current govt structure.
The Serbs in Kosovo did not turn to Russia because of the Pristina govt, but they turned to Russia because they were unhappy with the support they were getting from Serbia.
The Russian efforts are rewarding the people for looking to Moscow and not Belgrade. This along with the participation of the ambassador in certain political party gatherings should be of major concern to Belgrade. While many here may want a new govt with closer ties to Moscow, I doubt any of you want a new govt dictated by Moscow. Ponder it for a while.
Any aid sent by Russia should have been in joint efforts with the Belgrade authorities. Otherwise you have begun the divide and conquer program.

Sooner or later Serbia WILL HAVE to recognize Kosovo.

time works for Serbia, actually.

and that is good.
(Jovan, 13 December 2011 19:01)


time works for serbia,time has workt for serbia long time ago now is our time you like it or not thats a fakt. and for you comments hire who cares about serbia anymore serbia is joke for EU and US.lol

Five EU member states don't recognize Kosovo, the majority of UN member states don't recognize Kosovo - so why should Serbia recognize Kosovo then? That's ridiculous.
(Comm. Parrisson, 13 December 2011 18:59)

I hope that you and your friends will finally understand that the non-recognising of Kosovo by the 5 EU members and other UN members has nothing to do with protecting or supporting Serbia interest, nor the international law. In fact, Serbia by not recognising Kosovo is playing on their hands which suit their interests to well.
I think Serbia will recognise Kosovo (with some sort of string attached). The prospect of joining EU in return is too much of a gamble for Tadic, the Serbs simply cannot lose this chance.
There’re billions of EU euros lining up for the region, both Albanian’s and Serb’s know that, any derail to the process would be suicidal.

"I hope that the next elections do not see the kind of people coming to power who will destabilise the place again - I would blame the EU if that happens. "

No. Just like THE WEST was not to blame that Milosevic became and stayed in power, the EU will not be to blame if Serbs decide to elect an extremist/nationalist government again. It will be their own fault, and they will have to bear the consequences of 5 more lost years.

Albanians were ethnically cleansing Serbs from Kosovo - good ordinary people - long before Milosevic.

I guess that there are lots of Albanians queuing up to apologise for that. (?!)

Serbia must make it clear that it will not give up its ownership of Kosovo, and if the udi persists in breach of 1244 then at some stage there may be an end to the level of cooperation that Serbia is prepared to give.

Any solution has to be to the satisfaction of Serbia, and recognition of Kosovo would not comply.

A solution is needed and Serbia has made it clear that 1244 is still the legal basis. Independence is not.

On that basis, Serbia should join the EU as soon as possible.

Without that, Serbia should decide not to join. If the EU want more, then that must be the end of the matter. It is then for the EU to be adaptable.

Serbia has complied step-by-step and great changes have taken place. There comes a time however where Serbia should draw a line in the sand and say - no further. The EU is prepared to do that, so why shouldn't Serbia. That then sets the scene for new solutions. Serbia is prepared to take a peaceful path - agreements can be made.

I would not blame Tadic for trying - it is the right thing to do - but I would not blame him for failing if the EU decide to make the situation untenable for Serbian politics. It was always going to be the case that the EU was going to make Kosovo an issue - perhaps Tadic has been made a fool of - or more likely he has gone along with the only route available for bringing some prosperity to Serbia. The mess from the Milosevic era was always going to take generations to recover from.

If the EU are making Tadic's politics untenable, then the EU are effectively inviting a resurgence in nationalism - a shame given the great progress that has been made in Serbia so far. I hope that the next elections do not see the kind of people coming to power who will destabilise the place again - I would blame the EU if that happens.

The people of Northern Kosovo in particular are being told they have to be ruled from the South of them, whereas their heads and hearts naturally look North to where their government has always been. There has to be some understanding that they are not going to look South, and they are going to continue to look North.

If the EU wants to continue to humiliate Serbia by supporting the continued theft of its land and the results of Albanian ethnic cleansing of Serbs from Kosovo, then that is the EU's loss.

Claiming that they did not know that this was a condition, it's just plain stupid.

However it will take only few months of Kosutnica's governing (if the man ever gets elected) for Serbia to recognize Kosova. For diaspora warriors, it's just very simple to ask for Serbia to stay strong, the reality is that Serbia depends totally on the EU and US loans. Without those, Kostunica government will fall in a matter of months (if it ever gets created).

What strikes me as ironic is that I believe Kostunica doesn't even want to get elected. He doesn't want to deal with K-issue, he can't, no one can. He just wants to be in opposition forever and use the K-issue as a simple tool to hold on to its comfy parliamentary chair.

Look at the article about the government boycotting the talks in parliament. All those fat asses just don't want to deal with the issue. They won't touch K-issue with a 9 foot pole. Everyone just want to stay out of it, let Tadic take the blame, while they rip the benefits of having such issue hanging in the air forever.
It's simply disgusting to see K-issue being thrown as hot potato.

Well, well, now the rat admits it after Dacic already let the cat of the bag. Damage control. He knows he's been a liar all these years and now he's trying to show he's actually a patriot.
Enough with these Vichy Serbs like Tadic, we need Kostunica back.
Cheers!!

it´s somehow funny ( really, I mean it ) to read those comments by our k-albanian friends about Serbia "losing five more years" and other rather stupid thoughts...

kids, Serbia is not that bad off, as your wishful thinking, or let´s rather call it desperate babbling is expressing it!

it´s YOU, down there in occupied southern Serbia, who should start thinking, ...since it is YOU who is stuck in a situation where nothing is going the way you want it.

but of course, it is still too early for your desperate nationalist souls to admit it, you will continue to write about how "independent" you are, and how it is " a done deal " and so on...

but, deep inside, ...you know that this is only empty ( albanian ) words...

as a sidenote:
http://www.transconflict.com/2011/12/serbia-and-the-eu-who-needs-who-132/

time works for Serbia, actually.

and that is good.

Five EU member states don't recognize Kosovo, the majority of UN member states don't recognize Kosovo - so why should Serbia recognize Kosovo then? That's ridiculous.

@Tadic

About time you told the truth!

"We did not accept it, nor will we be accepting it," he stated.
--
We can thank Kostunica for that. The simple fact is you can't accept it without breaking the constitutional law. You will be up for treason if you do but I'm sure the sell-outs have some tricks up their sleeves.

"We did not accept it, nor will we be accepting it," he stated.

Very soon the EU money that Serbia gets will be cut on the same amount that Serbia spends to finance the parallel structures in N.Kosovo.Close to 500 million EU.Then you will be asked again in March. Then some other programs wil be cut.And so on. Budget is a headache for every government that comes in power.

If "Kosovo independence" is a done deal why are certain EU countries still exerting pressure on Serbia to recognize?

great picture of party boy tadic dont have a care in the world! what is he gonna do for serbia todayhuh? im sure he will think of some more lies if hes got any left! old skool serb george miletich

This was nothing New.
What an selfdeceiver this is !.

I Quote Tadic -

The president concluded by saying that the situation now was "about a political fight", and that he was "convinced Serbia will persuade her European partners that this was impossible".

Comment . Off cause it is impossible !

Why cant you then drop the Matter of EU integration ?
EU whos Memberstates is also Nato Members allmost all of them,
will never accept a No Recognition of their Policy regarding Kosovo.

This Mr Tadic will go down.

Arn.Sweden.

Why not a referendum for the people in Serbia if they agree with the plans of president Tadic to recognize Kosovo?
I can predict/forecast that most citizen of Serbia will disagree.

So If Tadic and Co want to fill their pockets and betray Serbia and it's citizen in turn, then he is not in the right position to be president.

If kosovo was a colony or Slovenia I can understand but kosovo is Serbia and without it is no Serbia!

"Thanking Russia for the humanitarian aid sent to Kosovo, he added that no convoy carrying aid to Serbs in Kosovo should be stopped as they were today “the most vulnerable ethnic group in Europe.”"

The best humanitarian aid Russia can send to Kosovo are Russian bayonettes. Period. The only viable alternative to "few Russian bayonets in Kosovo i Metohija" is the "a lot of Russian bayonets in Kosovo i Metohija"

People retrench into their own selves when there is apparently only attack from the outside. A lot went wrong under Milosevic, but the people who voted for him thought they were voting for the only person who would defend them. Not a point of view I ever have agreed with, but one that was (and to quite an extent is) held in Serbia.

My comment is that given the marginal victory of Tadic at the last elections, if the EU choose to undermine his very pro-EU policy, then they should not be surprised if the people start to think that it was all a false promise. That then leaves the way open for some other party to act in a less constructive fashion and who knows what destabilisation could then result.

Merkel's statement this summer about stopping parallel institutions in NKosovo was incredibly clumsy, but showed the way things were going to go. It was a humiliation to Tadic - I think that the heavy hand is still being used instead of reasonable diplomacy, and that the time will come when Serbia will need to stand up for itself again. Tadic is not a Milosevic, and yet Serbia is still being treated as if he were. That is potentially wrong of the EU (well Merkel and a few other heavy hands) and could backfire.
(Bob, 14 December 2011 06:26
You need to quit playing the abused Serbia card. Most of EU have been upfront with Serbia, while they have said that outright recognition was not a requirement for Serbia to join the EU, anyone with a brain knows that just like Kosovo cannot join the EU with 5 members not recognizing the country, Serbia cannot join the EU with 22 members contesting what Serbia claims its borders. Serbia has never been promised that it can join while claiming Kosovo as part of it. The whole road map has never included Kosovo at all, everything Serbia has submitted to the EU has been sans Kosovo. Now all of a sudden everyone wants to say that they are being betrayed. The betrayal is only in what you wanted to accept as reality.
Serbia has even been given an accelerated chance not given to anyone else simply to heal the bruised pride of Serbs over Kosovo.

You say that Tadic is no Milosevic, maybe yes maybe no. Kosovo became a protectorate for a reason. Serbia claims it can never let Kosovo go, but that means the people too, and SErbia today the same as in the past had done everything possible to show that they want Kosovo without the people, and that my friend is exactly the Milosevic goal, so how can you say they are not the same.
The UN with approval of ALL UNSC members took the unprecedented step of removing Kosovo from Serbian control, it was Serbia's responsibility to show that it had changed and would protect the inhabitants of Kosovo, and they not only failed they did not even show an interest.

Very soon the EU money that Serbia gets will be cut on the same amount that Serbia spends to finance the parallel structures in N.Kosovo.Close to 500 million EU.Then you will be asked again in March. Then some other programs wil be cut.And so on. Budget is a headache for every government that comes in power.
(Mark, 13 December 2011 18:29)

Based on what information exactly? The little television in your headperhaps?

"I hope that you and your friends will finally understand that the non-recognising of Kosovo by the 5 EU members and other UN members has nothing to do with protecting or supporting Serbia interest, nor the international law. "
(Ilir, 13 December 2011 19:58)

I agree, it's not about Serbs, it's not about law, it has only to do with not allowing a precedence be made: That every ethnic minority living in a country can unilaterally secede and create an own 'country', especially not if it is ruled by a group of criminals who turned this place into a gangster's paradise and the main European hub for drugs and human trafficking. This cannot be in the interest of any country.

"We did not accept it, nor will we be accepting it," he stated. As long as you know the score....forget about EU...

There’re billions of EU euros lining up for the region, both Albanian’s and Serb’s know that, any derail to the process would be suicidal.
(Ilir, 13 December 2011 19:58)

Of course. KAlb and KSerb president B.Tadic suggested the quickest way to the EU - Kosovo is admitted to the EU as part of Serbia. Agree to it, don't deny EU money.

Also, I stand by the statement that Albanians have been ethnically cleansing peaceful Serbs from long before Milosevic. There are two sides to the issue. The reward of an effectively mono ethnic state is wrong, and the UN did not take Kosovo from Serbia, but just required strong autonomy. The udi attempt is a breach of 1244.
(Bob, 14 December 2011 15:16)
The UN did not phyically remove Kosovo from Serbia just any power, control over it politically, physically, or economically. Which is more embarassing than to have actually removed it.
Actually we had a similar situation in the US in the 50's-70's. Blacks started integrating the white neighborhoods and the bigoted whites still controlled the govt and everything else but did not want to live next to a black family so they moved. Now were they ethnically cleansed from the area?? If you were a bigoted white you probably would say yes. Just the same as you claim that Serbs were cleansed when actually they just hated the Albanians so much they did not want to live with them! Hence the quest of Milosevic to create an ethnically pure Serbian Kosovo, same as you today.

Tadić pointed out that Serbia had no intention to give up on UN Security Council Resolution 1244 because it had brought peace to Kosovo and Metohija, saving human lives.

Is he pointing the way to change 1244? Poor people, have to suffer again for the sake of some sadic hypocratic politician

Well Boris has finally come clean and told the truth about Kosovo. Its better late than never. Now he should put that car hes pictured in into first gear and head south to his ancestral homeland in Montenegro and start a new political career in that country. Buckle up Boris, its going to be a rough ride!

Five EU member states don't recognize Kosovo, the majority of UN member states don't recognize Kosovo - so why should Serbia recognize Kosovo then? That's ridiculous.
(Comm. Parrisson, 13 December 2011 18:59)
Most of the countries that have refused to recognize Kosovo do so for interests of their own not out of support for Serbia. Even Russia the only real supporter of Serbia, is only using the item as a pawn in its chess game with the US. Notice the wedge it is causing betweent the north serbs and Belgrade. If Russia's alliance were with Serbia it would live up to their earlier statements of what is acceptable to Serbia is acceptable to Russia. Now Serbia wants to end the barricade issue in Kosovo but Russia is backstabbing the govt by encouraging it. Why? To irritate the west. So here it is plain as day it is not Serbia that is the focus of Russia but how to use the situation to Russia's advantage. Amazing how many here that call the Albanians foolish in thinking that the west really cares about them, truly believe Russia is acting out of some deep concern for their brethern.
Majority of UN members not recognizing have not made an official decision for any number of reasons.
The 5 EU members not recognizing are also among the weakest links in the EU chain and are very fragile so I would not count on their solid support.

Based on what information exactly? The little television in your headperhaps?
(Max Headroom, 13 December 2011 19:04)

The same television that was telling you serbs that recognizing kosovo was not a condition for Serbia's EU membership.

The best humanitarian aid Russia can send to Kosovo are Russian bayonettes. Period. The only viable alternative to "few Russian bayonets in Kosovo i Metohija" is the "a lot of Russian bayonets in Kosovo i Metohija"
(Ataman, 13 December 2011 21:53)

I hope you do understand how another conflict in Ballkans would end, with or without your bayonets ( Who's using bayonets today anyway).

Said Tadic, "an imaginary man asked me to recognize Kosovo, but I refused. Please elect me again, I am a nationalist."

Mr. Tadic! forget about the EU and concentrate in improving your economy. strengthening relation with Russia, China, India and other countries.

Continue the fight for Kosovo province in what ever means. If you are still insisting for the EU seat then quit and let Kostunica be the President of Serbia.

I hope you do understand how another conflict in Ballkans would end, with or without your bayonets ( Who's using bayonets today anyway).
(miri, 14 December 2011 02:32)

With sufficient number of troops it won't even begin and maybe that's the way to go. Today's 'bayonets' are 3M: MiG - Merkava - Megaton. That's what I am asking for, the more of each the better, under professional control and not some wild freelancers chasing each other.

"I hope that you and your friends will finally understand that the non-recognising of Kosovo by the 5 EU members and other UN members has nothing to do with protecting or supporting Serbia interest, nor the international law. "
-Albanian troll

And you actually think the US, UK, or Germany give a damn about Albanians? Wake up. The only way I would believe that they did this for Albanians is if they did it so they had a place to send every Albanian from their country. To get rid of the global headache you cause. They might want Kosovo to be the Albanian landfill.

I hope that you and your friends will finally understand that the non-recognising of Kosovo by the 5 EU members and other UN members has nothing to do with protecting or supporting Serbia interest, nor the international law. In fact, Serbia by not recognising Kosovo is playing on their hands which suit their interests to well.
I think Serbia will recognise Kosovo (with some sort of string attached). The prospect of joining EU in return is too much of a gamble for Tadic, the Serbs simply cannot lose this chance.
There’re billions of EU euros lining up for the region, both Albanian’s and Serb’s know that, any derail to the process would be suicidal.
(Ilir, 13 December 2011 19:58)


I hate to tell you that those billions of Euros don’t exist as the EU has exhausted its reserves trying to save current members from bankruptcy. There is no hidden pot of gold anywhere – this is the myth that is being sold to the Serbs and Croats in that everything will be rosey once they join.

One other point that led to this situation is the EU’s stupid foreign policy program which based on the United States with wars left right and centre, then having to pay to keep afloat Kosovo, its money pit has run dry and it has had negotiate with China and Russia for investment into their Eurobonds.

The Serbs would be insane to recognise Kosovo on the EU’s terms considering the west is not only weak but there is no chance of it coming back to power.

Analyst ….. in reply to your comment about my earlier posting ….

People retrench into their own selves when there is apparently only attack from the outside. A lot went wrong under Milosevic, but the people who voted for him thought they were voting for the only person who would defend them. Not a point of view I ever have agreed with, but one that was (and to quite an extent is) held in Serbia.

My comment is that given the marginal victory of Tadic at the last elections, if the EU choose to undermine his very pro-EU policy, then they should not be surprised if the people start to think that it was all a false promise. That then leaves the way open for some other party to act in a less constructive fashion and who knows what destabilisation could then result.

Merkel's statement this summer about stopping parallel institutions in NKosovo was incredibly clumsy, but showed the way things were going to go. It was a humiliation to Tadic - I think that the heavy hand is still being used instead of reasonable diplomacy, and that the time will come when Serbia will need to stand up for itself again. Tadic is not a Milosevic, and yet Serbia is still being treated as if he were. That is potentially wrong of the EU (well Merkel and a few other heavy hands) and could backfire.

Get a grip

I was not playing the 'abused Serbian card' - I was just pointing out what may happen.

That said, the majority in NKosovo are not going to look south for their governance.

Also, I stand by the statement that Albanians have been ethnically cleansing peaceful Serbs from long before Milosevic. There are two sides to the issue. The reward of an effectively mono ethnic state is wrong, and the UN did not take Kosovo from Serbia, but just required strong autonomy. The udi attempt is a breach of 1244.

The UN with approval of ALL UNSC members took the unprecedented step of removing Kosovo from Serbian control, it was Serbia's responsibility to show that it had changed and would protect the inhabitants of Kosovo, and they not only failed they did not even show an interest.
(get a grip, 14 December 2011 10:40)

Very strange comment. Don't you know that US/NATO decided long ago (1998-1999) to make Kosovo independent in several years, regardless of what Serbia would show or wouldn't show.

If Russia's alliance were with Serbia it would live up to their earlier statements of what is acceptable to Serbia is acceptable to Russia. Now Serbia wants to end the barricade issue in Kosovo but Russia is backstabbing the govt by encouraging it. Why? To irritate the west. So here it is plain as day it is not Serbia that is the focus of Russia but how to use the situation to Russia's advantage.
Majority of UN members not recognizing have not made an official decision for any number of reasons.
The 5 EU members not recognizing are also among the weakest links in the EU chain and are very fragile so I would not count on their solid support.
(a New Day, 14 December 2011 08:12)

And what should we do? We have recieved dozens of thousand of requests for citizenship, should Russian officials just throw them into dustbin or pretend that the requests haven't been recieved because the mail doesn't work?

One other point that led to this situation is the EU’s stupid foreign policy program which based on the United States with wars left right and centre, then having to pay to keep afloat Kosovo, its money pit has run dry and it has had negotiate with China and Russia for investment into their Eurobonds.
(sj, 14 December 2011 04:18)


How did that Eurobonds deal go ? Did the rich Europeans manage to outsmart again the poor Russians and Chinese to have them give money to the rich Europeans ?

And what should we do? We have recieved dozens of thousand of requests for citizenship, should Russian officials just throw them into dustbin or pretend that the requests haven't been recieved because the mail doesn't work?
(aaayyy, 15 December 2011 00:08)
Don't know whether you are Russian or Serbian from your post but lets take it from a Russian perspective.

Currently you have a huge number of protestors to the recent elections, and the govt is cracking down on them. Should they request help from the US and the US is unable to do anything but instead sends in huge amounts of "humanitarian aid" to the protestors just to show support. would you not see this as a way to undermine the current govt structure.
The Serbs in Kosovo did not turn to Russia because of the Pristina govt, but they turned to Russia because they were unhappy with the support they were getting from Serbia.
The Russian efforts are rewarding the people for looking to Moscow and not Belgrade. This along with the participation of the ambassador in certain political party gatherings should be of major concern to Belgrade. While many here may want a new govt with closer ties to Moscow, I doubt any of you want a new govt dictated by Moscow. Ponder it for a while.
Any aid sent by Russia should have been in joint efforts with the Belgrade authorities. Otherwise you have begun the divide and conquer program.

@Haris:

my dear k-albanian friend, ... your despair is literally jumping out of the flatscreen-monitor... =)

time "workt" for Serbia, and it still works for Serbia, ...there is no doubt about that, especially if you look at the recent developments. I won´t go further into detail, since you wouldn´t understand or even try to understand...

but, may I give you the little advise to work on your english-skills!?

you know, some day, you will have to apply for a job down there in southern Serbia, and...with only albanian, you´ll be lost. think about that, in your very own interest!