"Serbia recognizing Kosovo is EU's condition"

"Let's not lie to each other any longer and let's not tell fairy-tales. That's what's required," Dačić told reporters after a security conference held in the Serbian capital.'

Tell Tadic and SuNATOvac, they are still in denial. I'm glad this is now in the open, so we can have a proper Serbian government and give that German EU club of zeee finger.
Cheers!!

In this context, the minister added that Serbia "removed Slobodan Milošević from power, finalized cooperation with the Hague Tribunal, adopted the Statue of Vojvdina, the Resolution on Srebrenica and apologized to all surrounding nations".

You have yet to apologize to K-Albanians. When will Serbia do that?

LOL! And Dacic finally let the cat out of the bag. Are these sell-outs finally realising that greed has no limits? The bigger the sell-out the more conditions they'll be getting. Serbia would no longer exist if the DS remained in power indefinitely while Tadic would be running around naked looking for something else to sell.

So they like blaming Milosevic for this situation but at least he gave us UNSCR1244. The sell-outs in the DS even want to throw that in the bin for some rotten EU carrots. Get a backbone as you'll only ever earn respect when you start respecting yourselves. Corruption is high, our debt levels are high and what does this government have to show for it? Pretty much nothing.

Who even voted for these idiots? It was obvious back then what their intentions were.

So the truth is finally coming to the surface, and it is now clear, sell Serbia to the EU without Kosovo, or stay out and defend it. Perhaps now people will wake up to this reality, first with Djelic voicing doubts over candidacy and now such open comments from Dacic who is in this pathetic government. People can now pick those who don't care for Kosovo from those who do, if these idiots get 'elected' again then there is clearly something dodgy going on with elections.

@Agim
We have nothing to apologise to you for, especially when your people have committed such disgusting things against us, such an arrogant and stupid comment.

(Agim Kelmendi, 13 December 2011 13:34)

When you return all the money, land and lives yours pillaged!!!

"Serbia recognizing Kosovo is EU's condition".... toward becoming a candidate for EU membership is....the condition for that to happen is to "recognize Kosovo's independence".

"Let's not lie to each other any longer and let's not tell fairy-tales."

Thanks for understanding that! Serbia has got enough time until coming March to do that. If not don't waste other's people time and money. There is another option for Serbia to join Russian Federation of Vladimir Putin, the former KGB agent. Top man for the job of the President))) From Russia with love!

Well this has been clear since the beginning...But Boris invented the famous EU & Kosovo slogan ....Now let's vote and be the Serbian people to decide...it's easy ...or Eu candidate status or go to war for Kosovo ...

1.) Serbia didn't apologize for its crimes in Kosovo.
2.) The resolution on Srebrenica was ridicilous because it didn't mention genocide. "Crimes" have been commmited by all, but genocide only by one, Serbs. And even that resolution barely got majority, by appeasing members of the parliament with additional presents.
3.) Extradition is not an act of joining the EU, but a duty in the name humanity. It is unbelievable how shamelessly you admit that this has been done only to join the EU.

You just proved once again, why Serbia is not ready for the EU.

Lets be honest, everyone expects rationality. When everyone knows that this is done deal why delay, the pain would be longer and larger. Serbia and reality of KOsovo independence reminds me of the story of Wolf and Donkey. "The wolf catches donkey and starts by eating his tail and from the pain and anexious state that he is in, the donkey says to itself "I hope I am in a dream"

From Mr. Dacic mouth it is therefore concluded that recognizing the Kosovo UDI is the "main" condition of the EU to Serbia to win a EU seat.

Now it is up to the Serbian Nation. will you agree to give up the fight for Kosovo province in exchange for an EU seat. The Serbian people must finally decide.


It will not be Tadic but the Serbian People.

it's easy ...or Eu candidate status or go to war for Kosovo ...
(Luigi, 13 December 2011 13:40)
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Yes Luigi, it is not just a war for KiM in the pipeline but a world war. The 1% are very powerful although economically and morally bankrupt. Their method has been to rob as many states and people as possible. They take their wealth and resources to feed their unlimited greed.

Personally, I think this war has already started but others will realise later. It is history repeating with the same patterns appearing. Last time it was the NAZIs, this time it is NATO.

Berk: "Extradition is not an act of joining the EU, but a duty in the name humanity".

Where are the extraditions for Thachi and other KLA leaders for henious crimes during the 1998-1999 war in Kosovo and after the war until this day? Clinton over the bombings of Republika Srpska and FR Yugoslavia? Blair for FR Yugoslavia, Afghanistan & Iraq? Bush also for Afghanistan and Iraq? Sarkozy, Cameron, Obama and others for Libya?

The list goes on, 'international law' applies only to those who the west choose. But oh wait, all western war crimes and their allies are done in the name of defence and protection of human rights right?

this would be great, if only it was true!

Serbia outside the EU is better off than inside this crisis-union...

as for what I have always written here: the EU needs Serbia much more than Serbia needs the EU!

now, it is even a former US-envoy admitting it!

http://www.transconflict.com/2011/12/serbia-and-the-eu-who-needs-who-132/


Serbia will prevail, ...it´s just a question of time!
let´s just see what future brings!

“According to Čotrić, Serbia is expected to implement agreements reached with Priština, including the agreements on administrative crossings, regional cooperation and representation of Kosovo, as well as cooperation with EULEX and KFOR to enable them to exercise their mandate”

Is Cotric stupid or does he think the rest of us are silly?

Implementation of “agreements on administrative crossings, regional cooperation and representation of Kosovo, as well as cooperation with EULEX and KFOR to enable them to exercise their mandate” is defacto recognition of an independent Kosovo.

No wonder Draskovic’s party is something where between whale dung and coral in the sea of popularity in Serbian politics.


“Dačić went on to accuse the international community of "betraying the expectations of the (Serbian) citizens", and appraised that in 2000, "all they were asked to do was to get rid of Slobodan Milošević, while nobody mentioned Kosovo's independence":

Has it not dawned even on you that there are many other conditions they NEVER told you about????????????? Where do these politicians live??? Under a rock???

While the west has compliant politicians they will place on condition and when that’s filled they will come out with the next and so on and so forth. It’s endless until Serbia is torn to pieces. If you turn around and tell the EU to shove its membership where the sun does not shine watch them starting to run to you and begging.

Thank god the next party will look to Moscow and not Brussels and then watch the change.

Regardless of all let me say this, the Asian banks have now plans in place to deal with the break up of the EU. For those that don’t know banks work, they do not do this unless they are certain something is going to happen.

Albanians were ethnically cleansing Serbs from Kosovo - good ordinary people - long before Milosevic.

I guess that there are lots of Albanians queuing up to apologise for that. (?!)

Serbia must make it clear that it will not give up its ownership of Kosovo, and if the udi persists in breach of 1244 then at some stage there may be an end to the level of cooperation that Serbia is prepared to give.

Any solution has to be to the satisfaction of Serbia, and recognition of Kosovo would not comply.

A solution is needed and Serbia has made it clear that 1244 is still the legal basis. Independence is not.

On that basis, Serbia should join the EU as soon as possible.

Without that, Serbia should decide not to join. If the EU want more, then that must be the end of the matter. It is then for the EU to be adaptable.

Serbia has complied step-by-step and great changes have taken place. There comes a time however where Serbia should draw a line in the sand and say - no further. The EU is prepared to do that, so why shouldn't Serbia. That then sets the scene for new solutions. Serbia is prepared to take a peaceful path - agreements can be made.

I would not blame Tadic for trying - it is the right thing to do - but I would not blame him for failing if the EU decide to make the situation untenable for Serbian politics. It was always going to be the case that the EU was going to make Kosovo an issue - perhaps Tadic has been made a fool of - or more likely he has gone along with the only route available for bringing some prosperity to Serbia. The mess from the Milosevic era was always going to take generations to recover from.

If the EU are making Tadic's politics untenable, then the EU are effectively inviting a resurgence in nationalism - a shame given the great progress that has been made in Serbia so far. I hope that the next elections do not see the kind of people coming to power who will destabilise the place again - I would blame the EU if that happens.

The people of Northern Kosovo in particular are being told they have to be ruled from the South of them, whereas their heads and hearts naturally look North to where their government has always been. There has to be some understanding that they are not going to look South, and they are going to continue to look North.

If the EU wants to continue to humiliate Serbia by supporting the continued theft of its land and the results of Albanian ethnic cleansing of Serbs from Kosovo, then that is the EU's loss.

I have said all along that the EU will never grant Serbia membership. However, as long as the serbs don't know this the EU will try to make serbs give up everything and anything, making them think they would be able to join later on. We can not bring back Mladic and all other patriots we turned in. And we will not be able to take back a recognition of Kosovo. Our politicians have been extreemly naive and dumb. It needs to stop before more damage is done.

You have yet to apologize to K-Albanians. When will Serbia do that?
(Agim Kelmendi, 13 December 2011 13:34)

As long as a alleged (war) criminal and his buddies are playing politicians in Pristina, this won't happen.

It took Dacic a long time to find out the truth.

It is not fair, he complained, for Serbia not to be made a candidate - "after all it did".

In this context, the minister added that Serbia "removed Slobodan Milošević from power, finalized cooperation with the Hague Tribunal, adopted the Statue of Vojvdina, the Resolution on Srebrenica and apologized to all surrounding nations".

So you want to be rewarded because you are not causing anymore wars? How about instead of resolutions and apologies you pay for the victims and the war damages that you serbs caused in the nineties. Serbia is still in two open territorial conflicts with Albanians and the Bosnian Muslims.Serbia does not belong in EU.

"Serbia recognizing Kosovo is EU's condition"
As much as I want this statement to be true (I’m an Albanian from Kosova/o) I don’t think it is. This is just another Serbian strategic move. Why?

First, this way they try to put the blame on EU for not giving them the candidate status rather than take responsibility for their failed policies regarding Kosovo.

Second, the strategy of EU and Serbian leadership is to give you a carrot (i.e. candidate status) in March right before your election in May. This way, your current Serbian leadership can say “look even though they asked us to recognize Kosovo, we did not and we still got a candidate status due to our excellent leadership and politicians, blah blah blah”. They [EU] hope this will give the current Serbian government some extra votes and hopefully help them stay in power. EU does not want radicals and the current opposition parties to be in charge of Serbia.

Third, and final, it’s a distraction for the Serbian citizens and to try to make the future Serbian concession(s) seem smaller in scale than they are. E.g. one of these concessions will be to have Kosovo participate in international and regional summits/gathering without the “UN 1244”.

I know this might seem like a conspiracy theory of some sort but to me it’s a common strategy used by the Serbian government. It’s a trend :-)

The only way to find out is to wait until march; until then…peace and try to be nice to each other.

"Serbia recognizing Kosovo is EU's condition"
As much as I want this statement to be true (I’m an Albanian from Kosova/o) I don’t think it is. This is just another Serbian strategic move. Why?
(Blue and gold, 13 December 2011 20:10)

That's an easy way to rape the country economically, sell for 10 Cent what is worth $1 but get some percentage... and blame someone else. And at the same time secure the support to get elected.

Familiar story and strategy - just the tactics varies from one post-Communist country to an other.

Here we have a fine demonstration of courage and leadership. This is good for Serbia and Serbs and for the rest of us as well. The Albanians of Kosovo are unfit to demand independence, it's not just that their claims are not legitimate. The next courageous step to take would be for Serbs to stand up for a greater truth, that Kosovo under Serbia is in the interests of not just Europe but the rest of the world too, that nobody in their right minds wants to turn Kosovo over to Albania.

There is one solution to this problem, and it is an honest solution based in true democratic principles. There needs to be a nationwide referendum on the Kosovo issue. The question which should be asked of the people of Serbia is straightforward-fight for Kosovo or let it go.

When the people give thier answer the politicians in Belgrade will have an undisputable mandate for whichever policy they create based on the answer to that question. But as usuall the ruling parties in Serbia are afraid of the opnion of thier own people and need to keep the corrupt status quo in effect so that thier hidden and often personal agendas are not sidelined. We need true democracy in serbia coupled with an actually independent, honest and brave press. But what we have in Serbia today is the equivalent of a Balkan bananna republic.

In my personal opnion, Kosovo should be divided. But as things stand now it would also be hypocritical that during the proposed referendum, the 2 million estimated Albanians in Kosovo would not be allowed to vote in the referendum. Give everybody a voice, push the self serving politicians to the side and let the chips fall where they may.

If we Serbs decide that Kosovo is not worth a long a prolonged conflict then the politicians need to make one important fact clear to all parties concerned, esspecially to the the US and the Germanic nations of northern europe. No more carving up of Serbian land, no greater autonomy for Voijvoidina and no talk of seperatism in Sandzak. The authorites need to make this a requirement for any further discussion about the loss of Kosovo.

Serbia is still in two open territorial conflicts with Albanians and the Bosnian Muslims.Serbia does not belong in EU.

Marks numeracy and literacy are now seriously at question. Mark belongs back in school!

"Serbia recognizing Kosovo is EU's condition"

OK, some may have that condition, some maybe not. One key question: joining the Russia-Kazakhstan-Belarus military cooperation does have a condition "recognize Kosovo first" or not? If not, maybe that's the military organization to join. Unless the majority of Serbs do not want it. Ask the people. I did ask a few, I know what they did said but let me keep that secret.

Who even voted for these idiots? It was obvious back then what their intentions were.
(Zoran, 13 December 2011 13:27)

I distinctly remember the majority of Serbs voted for them...

The problem with Serbs is that they try to blame Albanians as a way of relinquishing the accountability they have for the wars in Kosovo and Bosnia.

What transpires from today's Serbia is that Serbs are determined to ask for more and in the end lose it all! Stupidity has no other name!

On top, China has over 3 trillion in reserves.
sj.
With the majority of which is in US govt issued bonds and most of the remainder in Euro bonds.
Now explain to us again, with the inevitable total collapse of the western world, how you consider this an asset. Actually, it is more a guarantee that the west is not going to collapse as China is going to do whatever is necessary to protect its A**.

(pss, 14 December 2011 13:20)

“Why would you trust the plannings of "banks" in the east, they are built on the same principles of the west. The economy of the east is just on a slower train than the west not a different track. “

Sadly to say the banks in Asia are very different, especially the Chinese. They are better controlled and monitored organisations whereas in the west they control the government and that is why you have this horrible mess called the GFC.

“China has built its economy on cheap labor and inflated real estate just like the west. Now you are seeing discontent among the cheap labor like in the west and probably a soon to be collapse of the inflated real estate. “

It might surprise you that cheap labour is how the US started its industry, but I guess they no longer teach these subjects in history classes. It’s more like the US popped out of the ground wealthy.

The Chinese government is well aware of the real estate bubble and keeps a tight control on it as well as inflation. What they tell you in the west does not come even close to reality. For example, in a recent article it was stated that Chinese riot squads had to be sent to a province to quell an uprising because developers had taken people’s land without compensation – WRONG, they paid compensation; in fact it was above local price. But it was groups who did not want to leave that were causing problems – just like your Wall Street protestors, you do recall them? Don’t you?

On top, China has over 3 trillion in reserves.

“Russia is built on its energy resources but the same as in the 90's that is controlled by the political stability and there are some huge cracks showing there.”

Once again you’re like a mushroom kept in the dark and fed on BS. There are no huge cracks showing mate. It’s what your free press like tell you – how much does it spend time in covering poverty in the US? Very little. The facts are that Putin is by far the most popular politician alive today in Russia and the west does not like Vlad because he is spreading Russian influence by kicking the US out of central Asia and who is stopping the expansion of NATO by keeping Kosovo as it is today.

The Russians have 500 billion in foreign currency in reserves with just as much, if not more, in gold. It ows nothing and its expanding its industry at its pace. Now look at the US – 15.1 trillion federal debt alone; every state in the US is BROKE which would take the total government debt to 22 trillion; it has an unfunded liability (medicare, social security, military pensions etc) of 115 trillion.


“Both China and Russia have created a class of super rich that is set off from the rest of the people. If you will notice where are they spending their money?? They are buying up things in the west, do you think they are doing this because they think it will collapse and they will be left with worthless property???? “

As if the west does not have its wealthy. The wealth you are talking about is 90% based in their respective countries and like all wealthy people, even ordinary people who have a little money, they diversify their investments to maximise earnings. The Chinese are buying up mineral deposits in Africa and Australia; their people are buying real estate in Australia as well. There is nothing odd in buying quality investment.

“They are setting out anchors for their survival when both communist China and communist oriented Russian govts decide to start assuming control of their holdings.”

I hate to disappoint you but even the next President of China stated on several occasions it is in China’s interest and security to nurture the growth of its industry as well as create its own wealthy elite. He also said that democracy will happen in China but it has to be done at China’s pace.

Even though I have said many times about the demise of the US I would buy property opposite Central Park in NY if I had the money – its called prime investment. That never loses its value.


(icj1, 14 December 2011 06:14)

“Why is Serbia that rich to make it shine ? “

Simple mate, get a map and look where Serbia is located. Without Serbia in NATO, that little group is disjointed and if you dig a little deeper you will find out that if you travel by car from Berlin to Istanbul through Serbia it takes 4 days but if you travel around it, it takes 7. That is why.


“I think they have their own problems before dealing with Serbia’s ones. Putin pockets are much more important that the lives of thousands of Serbs. “

And naturally Brussels is so human rights orientated to be concerned about the great unwashed in Pristina eh? Serbia is very important to Putin. That is why the southstream pipline is going through Serbia. It is not in Russia’s interests to allow Kosovo to go free.


“Mate, Asian banks can’t be that unprepared and prepare plans for events only when those events are certain. You, as one of the most brilliant minds in finance and economics living in Asia, have to do more work to make sure that banks there prepare for events even before they become certain because finance and economics are not an exact science – an event may easily happen today even if its probability until the day before was 70%.


Why do you think companies that have been around for over 100 years are still with us today? Luck? No it’s called good planning and those plans are updated regularly based on real events at the time and where they could lead. Some plan 50 years ahead.

To you I am a brilliant mind in finance but to anyone else who bothers to do some research it’s obvious as the nose on your face that planning is of the essence.
There is no magic involved at all.

I agree with Milan, dividing Kosovo would be a good idea. There is no way Serbia is going to get Kosovo back, nor will North Kosovo ever be ruled by Pristina without a lot of bloodshed. So Serbia should unilaterall annex North Kosovo while recognizing the independence of the rest. this is such an obvious decision, a referendum should not be necessary.

ah...so nice to see a serb official admit he was lying all along.

not that we didnt know it nor was it sadly transparent mind you, but still its nice to hear.

So they like blaming Milosevic for this situation but at least he gave us UNSCR1244.
(Zoran, 13 December 2011 13:27)

Milosevic gave you 1244 ?! Milosevic pleaded as much as he could for 1244 not to be approved because it meant dismemberment of Serbia (Milosevic's words) but the Russian big brother did not pay any attention to those pleadings...

Where are the extraditions for Thachi and other KLA leaders for henious crimes during the 1998-1999 war in Kosovo and after the war until this day? Clinton over the bombings of Republika Srpska and FR Yugoslavia? Blair for FR Yugoslavia, Afghanistan & Iraq? Bush also for Afghanistan and Iraq? Sarkozy, Cameron, Obama and others for Libya?

The list goes on, 'international law' applies only to those who the west choose. But oh wait, all western war crimes and their allies are done in the name of defence and protection of human rights right?
(SCP UK, 13 December 2011 16:06)

Sorry, but there is no any international arrest warrant for those people you named. If you have proofs of their crimes, what are you waiting ?! Go and denounce them to the appropriate prosecutors...

If you turn around and tell the EU to shove its membership where the sun does not shine watch them starting to run to you and begging.
(sj, 13 December 2011 23:16)

Why is Serbia that rich to make it shine ?
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Thank god the next party will look to Moscow and not Brussels and then watch the change.
(sj, 13 December 2011 23:16)

I think they have their own problems before dealing with Serbia’s ones. Putin pockets are much more important that the lives of thousands of Serbs.
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Regardless of all let me say this, the Asian banks have now plans in place to deal with the break up of the EU. For those that don’t know banks work, they do not do this unless they are certain something is going to happen.
(sj, 13 December 2011 23:16)

Mate, Asian banks can’t be that unprepared and prepare plans for events only when those events are certain. You, as one of the most brilliant minds in finance and economics living in Asia, have to do more work to make sure that banks there prepare for events even before they become certain because finance and economics are not an exact science – an event may easily happen today even if its probability until the day before was 70%.

Regardless of all let me say this, the Asian banks have now plans in place to deal with the break up of the EU. For those that don’t know banks work, they do not do this unless they are certain something is going to happen.
(sj, 13 December 2011 23:16)
hmmm, The "banks" did such a good job planning for the future in the west that is why there are no financial issues in the west, right.
Why would you trust the plannings of "banks" in the east, they are built on the same principles of the west. The economy of the east is just on a slower train than the west not a different track.
China has built its economy on cheap labor and inflated real estate just like the west. Now you are seeing discontent among the cheap labor like in the west and probably a soon to be collapse of the inflated real estate.
Russia is built on its energy resources but the same as in the 90's that is controlled by the political stability and there are some huge cracks showing there.

Both China and Russia have created a class of super rich that is set off from the rest of the people. If you will notice where are they spending their money?? They are buying up things in the west, do you think they are doing this because they think it will collapse and they will be left with worthless property????
They are setting out anchors for their survival when both communist China and communist oriented Russian govts decide to start assuming control of their holdings.

Simple mate, get a map and look where Serbia is located.
(sj, 15 December 2011 00:11)

Why should I? I have full trust in Vuk who has done it already

Without Serbia in NATO, that little group is disjointed and if you dig a little deeper you will find out that if you travel by car from Berlin to Istanbul through Serbia it takes 4 days but if you travel around it, it takes 7. That is why.
(sj, 15 December 2011 00:11)

Hmmm, sorry, just a curiosity, this invention called “aircraft” that has existed for more than 100 years in the West, hasn’t it arrived yet in Malaysia ?
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And naturally Brussels is so human rights orientated to be concerned about the great unwashed in Pristina eh? Serbia is very important to Putin.
(sj, 15 December 2011 00:11)

Oh, yeah, that’s why he just showed to 22,000 K. Serbs how much he cared for them !
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That is why the southstream pipline is going through Serbia. It is not in Russia’s interests to allow Kosovo to go free.
(sj, 15 December 2011 00:11)

Of course it is in Russia’s interest to not have millions of Kosovo criminals around the pipeline in Serbia. It’s very important for Russia that Kosovo be separated from Serbia to make sure that the pipeline is secure.
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Why do you think companies that have been around for over 100 years are still with us today? Luck? No it’s called good planning and those plans are updated regularly based on real events at the time and where they could lead. Some plan 50 years ahead.
(sj, 15 December 2011 00:11)

That’s exactly what I was saying. I became scared about the Asian banks when you said they don’t plan for something unless they are certain something is going to happen. Thanks for confirming that that’s not the case. I’m no longer anxious now.
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To you I am a brilliant mind in finance but to anyone else who bothers to do some research it’s obvious as the nose on your face that planning is of the essence. There is no magic involved at all.
(sj, 15 December 2011 00:11)

Exactly. Banks have to plan for more than just certain events. I’m glad we now agree on that. You scared me initially with your statement that they don’t plan “unless they are certain something is going to happen”
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The facts are that Putin is by far the most popular politician alive today in Russia and the west does not like Vlad because he is spreading Russian influence by kicking the US out of central Asia and who is stopping the expansion of NATO by keeping Kosovo as it is today.
(sj, 15 December 2011 00:11)

Exactly, that’s what I was thinking and that’s why I could not understand this denial :) Those who booed him should be ashamed of themselves; they offended all Russian people.

To you I am a brilliant mind in finance but to anyone else who bothers to do some research it’s obvious as the nose on your face that planning is of the essence.
There is no magic involved at all.
(sj, 15 December 2011 00:11)
This is the post that I have to print and save for future times when I need a chuckle.

To me you are a "legend in your own mind"
I am not naive enough to believe everything printed, but I would beleive our "free press" quicker than news coming from presses in China, Russia, and comments sections.
Your post is so full of inaccuracies there is no tackling them all but I would like to say my point on cheap labor is exactly what you said America was built on cheap labor, now it is expensive China and India are on the same track they just took a slower train.
Do you really believe anyone, I mean anyone would disregard everything that is out there and trust only what you say??? Maybe your children but they to will someday develop minds of their own.

Oh Dacic, common, no one asked you that. Now that Tadic failed his European bid he is running to wear the nationalist costume.

Serbs must be fools if they fall for what this clown is saying or if they vote for him again.

(think about it, 15 December 2011 10:24)

No they only have about 800 billion in the US and the investment in Eurobonds has been done for a specific reason in that it has free access to the EU market – for every Euro they have invested they expect to reap 1000 back; its not done out of love but for profit. In actual fact they have about 2 trillion in foreign reserves right now which is at China’s disposal.

China and the other BRICs do not want a sudden collapse of the west, but what it wants is a slow decline because the ripple affects are much less. The BRIC countries want the “baton” passed on smoothly rather than having to deal with economic chaos.

After the BS involving western rating agencies the Chinese now run theirs own rating agencies. They do not want a bar of Moodys and Poors and others as they gave the toxic loan a 100% rating.


(pss, 15 December 2011 07:28)


Unfortunately every post you have made that requires proof that reeks of extracts from the western media and you have the gall to claim not to be “naive enough to believe everything printed”. And if I make a comment then “where is the proof”.

You expect me to write a thesis to explain my comments, I have had more dealings with governments that you will see in ten life times and I don’t trust any of them let alone the so called free press.

I make comments based on my many years experience in the workforce and I make an assessment based on current trends. I understand you don’t like my “negative” comments about the west, but I can’t help it, if the Us has peed it riches up against the wall and is sinking into a pit of debt. But tell me where have I gone wrong!!!! I have been saying that the Us is in more trouble than what they are telling its people and it is 100% correct; I have been saying that the EU is on the verge of collapse and low and behold it is happening right now.

The classic of all classics headlines yesterday was “Bernanke worries Europe's woes will spill into U.S.” Of course it will affect the US in a big way. I now know why he is head of your reserve. The dumber they are the better the chance of being in charge of the central bank. I’ll tell you who is a dangerous person - Tim Geithner. He is the smartest of all of them.

It is not because I am a fortune teller or that I am smarter that you or anyone else. It is simply because the information is out there and all you have to do is add 2 and 2 to get 4. The problem is that your media and government are telling you that it’s actually 12.

In this context, the minister added that Serbia "removed Slobodan Milošević from power, finalized cooperation with the Hague Tribunal, adopted the Statue of Vojvdina, the Resolution on Srebrenica and apologized to all surrounding nations".

You have yet to apologize to K-Albanians. When will Serbia do that?

"Serbia recognizing Kosovo is EU's condition".... toward becoming a candidate for EU membership is....the condition for that to happen is to "recognize Kosovo's independence".

"Let's not lie to each other any longer and let's not tell fairy-tales."

Thanks for understanding that! Serbia has got enough time until coming March to do that. If not don't waste other's people time and money. There is another option for Serbia to join Russian Federation of Vladimir Putin, the former KGB agent. Top man for the job of the President))) From Russia with love!

1.) Serbia didn't apologize for its crimes in Kosovo.
2.) The resolution on Srebrenica was ridicilous because it didn't mention genocide. "Crimes" have been commmited by all, but genocide only by one, Serbs. And even that resolution barely got majority, by appeasing members of the parliament with additional presents.
3.) Extradition is not an act of joining the EU, but a duty in the name humanity. It is unbelievable how shamelessly you admit that this has been done only to join the EU.

You just proved once again, why Serbia is not ready for the EU.

(Agim Kelmendi, 13 December 2011 13:34)

When you return all the money, land and lives yours pillaged!!!

So the truth is finally coming to the surface, and it is now clear, sell Serbia to the EU without Kosovo, or stay out and defend it. Perhaps now people will wake up to this reality, first with Djelic voicing doubts over candidacy and now such open comments from Dacic who is in this pathetic government. People can now pick those who don't care for Kosovo from those who do, if these idiots get 'elected' again then there is clearly something dodgy going on with elections.

@Agim
We have nothing to apologise to you for, especially when your people have committed such disgusting things against us, such an arrogant and stupid comment.

Lets be honest, everyone expects rationality. When everyone knows that this is done deal why delay, the pain would be longer and larger. Serbia and reality of KOsovo independence reminds me of the story of Wolf and Donkey. "The wolf catches donkey and starts by eating his tail and from the pain and anexious state that he is in, the donkey says to itself "I hope I am in a dream"

From Mr. Dacic mouth it is therefore concluded that recognizing the Kosovo UDI is the "main" condition of the EU to Serbia to win a EU seat.

Now it is up to the Serbian Nation. will you agree to give up the fight for Kosovo province in exchange for an EU seat. The Serbian people must finally decide.


It will not be Tadic but the Serbian People.

Berk: "Extradition is not an act of joining the EU, but a duty in the name humanity".

Where are the extraditions for Thachi and other KLA leaders for henious crimes during the 1998-1999 war in Kosovo and after the war until this day? Clinton over the bombings of Republika Srpska and FR Yugoslavia? Blair for FR Yugoslavia, Afghanistan & Iraq? Bush also for Afghanistan and Iraq? Sarkozy, Cameron, Obama and others for Libya?

The list goes on, 'international law' applies only to those who the west choose. But oh wait, all western war crimes and their allies are done in the name of defence and protection of human rights right?

It is not fair, he complained, for Serbia not to be made a candidate - "after all it did".

In this context, the minister added that Serbia "removed Slobodan Milošević from power, finalized cooperation with the Hague Tribunal, adopted the Statue of Vojvdina, the Resolution on Srebrenica and apologized to all surrounding nations".

So you want to be rewarded because you are not causing anymore wars? How about instead of resolutions and apologies you pay for the victims and the war damages that you serbs caused in the nineties. Serbia is still in two open territorial conflicts with Albanians and the Bosnian Muslims.Serbia does not belong in EU.

The problem with Serbs is that they try to blame Albanians as a way of relinquishing the accountability they have for the wars in Kosovo and Bosnia.

What transpires from today's Serbia is that Serbs are determined to ask for more and in the end lose it all! Stupidity has no other name!

LOL! And Dacic finally let the cat out of the bag. Are these sell-outs finally realising that greed has no limits? The bigger the sell-out the more conditions they'll be getting. Serbia would no longer exist if the DS remained in power indefinitely while Tadic would be running around naked looking for something else to sell.

So they like blaming Milosevic for this situation but at least he gave us UNSCR1244. The sell-outs in the DS even want to throw that in the bin for some rotten EU carrots. Get a backbone as you'll only ever earn respect when you start respecting yourselves. Corruption is high, our debt levels are high and what does this government have to show for it? Pretty much nothing.

Who even voted for these idiots? It was obvious back then what their intentions were.

Well this has been clear since the beginning...But Boris invented the famous EU & Kosovo slogan ....Now let's vote and be the Serbian people to decide...it's easy ...or Eu candidate status or go to war for Kosovo ...

"Let's not lie to each other any longer and let's not tell fairy-tales. That's what's required," Dačić told reporters after a security conference held in the Serbian capital.'

Tell Tadic and SuNATOvac, they are still in denial. I'm glad this is now in the open, so we can have a proper Serbian government and give that German EU club of zeee finger.
Cheers!!

I have said all along that the EU will never grant Serbia membership. However, as long as the serbs don't know this the EU will try to make serbs give up everything and anything, making them think they would be able to join later on. We can not bring back Mladic and all other patriots we turned in. And we will not be able to take back a recognition of Kosovo. Our politicians have been extreemly naive and dumb. It needs to stop before more damage is done.

this would be great, if only it was true!

Serbia outside the EU is better off than inside this crisis-union...

as for what I have always written here: the EU needs Serbia much more than Serbia needs the EU!

now, it is even a former US-envoy admitting it!

http://www.transconflict.com/2011/12/serbia-and-the-eu-who-needs-who-132/


Serbia will prevail, ...it´s just a question of time!
let´s just see what future brings!

it's easy ...or Eu candidate status or go to war for Kosovo ...
(Luigi, 13 December 2011 13:40)
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Yes Luigi, it is not just a war for KiM in the pipeline but a world war. The 1% are very powerful although economically and morally bankrupt. Their method has been to rob as many states and people as possible. They take their wealth and resources to feed their unlimited greed.

Personally, I think this war has already started but others will realise later. It is history repeating with the same patterns appearing. Last time it was the NAZIs, this time it is NATO.

Albanians were ethnically cleansing Serbs from Kosovo - good ordinary people - long before Milosevic.

I guess that there are lots of Albanians queuing up to apologise for that. (?!)

Serbia must make it clear that it will not give up its ownership of Kosovo, and if the udi persists in breach of 1244 then at some stage there may be an end to the level of cooperation that Serbia is prepared to give.

Any solution has to be to the satisfaction of Serbia, and recognition of Kosovo would not comply.

A solution is needed and Serbia has made it clear that 1244 is still the legal basis. Independence is not.

On that basis, Serbia should join the EU as soon as possible.

Without that, Serbia should decide not to join. If the EU want more, then that must be the end of the matter. It is then for the EU to be adaptable.

Serbia has complied step-by-step and great changes have taken place. There comes a time however where Serbia should draw a line in the sand and say - no further. The EU is prepared to do that, so why shouldn't Serbia. That then sets the scene for new solutions. Serbia is prepared to take a peaceful path - agreements can be made.

I would not blame Tadic for trying - it is the right thing to do - but I would not blame him for failing if the EU decide to make the situation untenable for Serbian politics. It was always going to be the case that the EU was going to make Kosovo an issue - perhaps Tadic has been made a fool of - or more likely he has gone along with the only route available for bringing some prosperity to Serbia. The mess from the Milosevic era was always going to take generations to recover from.

If the EU are making Tadic's politics untenable, then the EU are effectively inviting a resurgence in nationalism - a shame given the great progress that has been made in Serbia so far. I hope that the next elections do not see the kind of people coming to power who will destabilise the place again - I would blame the EU if that happens.

The people of Northern Kosovo in particular are being told they have to be ruled from the South of them, whereas their heads and hearts naturally look North to where their government has always been. There has to be some understanding that they are not going to look South, and they are going to continue to look North.

If the EU wants to continue to humiliate Serbia by supporting the continued theft of its land and the results of Albanian ethnic cleansing of Serbs from Kosovo, then that is the EU's loss.

Here we have a fine demonstration of courage and leadership. This is good for Serbia and Serbs and for the rest of us as well. The Albanians of Kosovo are unfit to demand independence, it's not just that their claims are not legitimate. The next courageous step to take would be for Serbs to stand up for a greater truth, that Kosovo under Serbia is in the interests of not just Europe but the rest of the world too, that nobody in their right minds wants to turn Kosovo over to Albania.

Serbia is still in two open territorial conflicts with Albanians and the Bosnian Muslims.Serbia does not belong in EU.

Marks numeracy and literacy are now seriously at question. Mark belongs back in school!

It took Dacic a long time to find out the truth.

You have yet to apologize to K-Albanians. When will Serbia do that?
(Agim Kelmendi, 13 December 2011 13:34)

As long as a alleged (war) criminal and his buddies are playing politicians in Pristina, this won't happen.

"Serbia recognizing Kosovo is EU's condition"
As much as I want this statement to be true (I’m an Albanian from Kosova/o) I don’t think it is. This is just another Serbian strategic move. Why?

First, this way they try to put the blame on EU for not giving them the candidate status rather than take responsibility for their failed policies regarding Kosovo.

Second, the strategy of EU and Serbian leadership is to give you a carrot (i.e. candidate status) in March right before your election in May. This way, your current Serbian leadership can say “look even though they asked us to recognize Kosovo, we did not and we still got a candidate status due to our excellent leadership and politicians, blah blah blah”. They [EU] hope this will give the current Serbian government some extra votes and hopefully help them stay in power. EU does not want radicals and the current opposition parties to be in charge of Serbia.

Third, and final, it’s a distraction for the Serbian citizens and to try to make the future Serbian concession(s) seem smaller in scale than they are. E.g. one of these concessions will be to have Kosovo participate in international and regional summits/gathering without the “UN 1244”.

I know this might seem like a conspiracy theory of some sort but to me it’s a common strategy used by the Serbian government. It’s a trend :-)

The only way to find out is to wait until march; until then…peace and try to be nice to each other.

Simple mate, get a map and look where Serbia is located.
(sj, 15 December 2011 00:11)

Why should I? I have full trust in Vuk who has done it already

Without Serbia in NATO, that little group is disjointed and if you dig a little deeper you will find out that if you travel by car from Berlin to Istanbul through Serbia it takes 4 days but if you travel around it, it takes 7. That is why.
(sj, 15 December 2011 00:11)

Hmmm, sorry, just a curiosity, this invention called “aircraft” that has existed for more than 100 years in the West, hasn’t it arrived yet in Malaysia ?
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And naturally Brussels is so human rights orientated to be concerned about the great unwashed in Pristina eh? Serbia is very important to Putin.
(sj, 15 December 2011 00:11)

Oh, yeah, that’s why he just showed to 22,000 K. Serbs how much he cared for them !
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That is why the southstream pipline is going through Serbia. It is not in Russia’s interests to allow Kosovo to go free.
(sj, 15 December 2011 00:11)

Of course it is in Russia’s interest to not have millions of Kosovo criminals around the pipeline in Serbia. It’s very important for Russia that Kosovo be separated from Serbia to make sure that the pipeline is secure.
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Why do you think companies that have been around for over 100 years are still with us today? Luck? No it’s called good planning and those plans are updated regularly based on real events at the time and where they could lead. Some plan 50 years ahead.
(sj, 15 December 2011 00:11)

That’s exactly what I was saying. I became scared about the Asian banks when you said they don’t plan for something unless they are certain something is going to happen. Thanks for confirming that that’s not the case. I’m no longer anxious now.
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To you I am a brilliant mind in finance but to anyone else who bothers to do some research it’s obvious as the nose on your face that planning is of the essence. There is no magic involved at all.
(sj, 15 December 2011 00:11)

Exactly. Banks have to plan for more than just certain events. I’m glad we now agree on that. You scared me initially with your statement that they don’t plan “unless they are certain something is going to happen”
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The facts are that Putin is by far the most popular politician alive today in Russia and the west does not like Vlad because he is spreading Russian influence by kicking the US out of central Asia and who is stopping the expansion of NATO by keeping Kosovo as it is today.
(sj, 15 December 2011 00:11)

Exactly, that’s what I was thinking and that’s why I could not understand this denial :) Those who booed him should be ashamed of themselves; they offended all Russian people.

On top, China has over 3 trillion in reserves.
sj.
With the majority of which is in US govt issued bonds and most of the remainder in Euro bonds.
Now explain to us again, with the inevitable total collapse of the western world, how you consider this an asset. Actually, it is more a guarantee that the west is not going to collapse as China is going to do whatever is necessary to protect its A**.

"Serbia recognizing Kosovo is EU's condition"

OK, some may have that condition, some maybe not. One key question: joining the Russia-Kazakhstan-Belarus military cooperation does have a condition "recognize Kosovo first" or not? If not, maybe that's the military organization to join. Unless the majority of Serbs do not want it. Ask the people. I did ask a few, I know what they did said but let me keep that secret.

“According to Čotrić, Serbia is expected to implement agreements reached with Priština, including the agreements on administrative crossings, regional cooperation and representation of Kosovo, as well as cooperation with EULEX and KFOR to enable them to exercise their mandate”

Is Cotric stupid or does he think the rest of us are silly?

Implementation of “agreements on administrative crossings, regional cooperation and representation of Kosovo, as well as cooperation with EULEX and KFOR to enable them to exercise their mandate” is defacto recognition of an independent Kosovo.

No wonder Draskovic’s party is something where between whale dung and coral in the sea of popularity in Serbian politics.


“Dačić went on to accuse the international community of "betraying the expectations of the (Serbian) citizens", and appraised that in 2000, "all they were asked to do was to get rid of Slobodan Milošević, while nobody mentioned Kosovo's independence":

Has it not dawned even on you that there are many other conditions they NEVER told you about????????????? Where do these politicians live??? Under a rock???

While the west has compliant politicians they will place on condition and when that’s filled they will come out with the next and so on and so forth. It’s endless until Serbia is torn to pieces. If you turn around and tell the EU to shove its membership where the sun does not shine watch them starting to run to you and begging.

Thank god the next party will look to Moscow and not Brussels and then watch the change.

Regardless of all let me say this, the Asian banks have now plans in place to deal with the break up of the EU. For those that don’t know banks work, they do not do this unless they are certain something is going to happen.

If you turn around and tell the EU to shove its membership where the sun does not shine watch them starting to run to you and begging.
(sj, 13 December 2011 23:16)

Why is Serbia that rich to make it shine ?
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Thank god the next party will look to Moscow and not Brussels and then watch the change.
(sj, 13 December 2011 23:16)

I think they have their own problems before dealing with Serbia’s ones. Putin pockets are much more important that the lives of thousands of Serbs.
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Regardless of all let me say this, the Asian banks have now plans in place to deal with the break up of the EU. For those that don’t know banks work, they do not do this unless they are certain something is going to happen.
(sj, 13 December 2011 23:16)

Mate, Asian banks can’t be that unprepared and prepare plans for events only when those events are certain. You, as one of the most brilliant minds in finance and economics living in Asia, have to do more work to make sure that banks there prepare for events even before they become certain because finance and economics are not an exact science – an event may easily happen today even if its probability until the day before was 70%.

Regardless of all let me say this, the Asian banks have now plans in place to deal with the break up of the EU. For those that don’t know banks work, they do not do this unless they are certain something is going to happen.
(sj, 13 December 2011 23:16)
hmmm, The "banks" did such a good job planning for the future in the west that is why there are no financial issues in the west, right.
Why would you trust the plannings of "banks" in the east, they are built on the same principles of the west. The economy of the east is just on a slower train than the west not a different track.
China has built its economy on cheap labor and inflated real estate just like the west. Now you are seeing discontent among the cheap labor like in the west and probably a soon to be collapse of the inflated real estate.
Russia is built on its energy resources but the same as in the 90's that is controlled by the political stability and there are some huge cracks showing there.

Both China and Russia have created a class of super rich that is set off from the rest of the people. If you will notice where are they spending their money?? They are buying up things in the west, do you think they are doing this because they think it will collapse and they will be left with worthless property????
They are setting out anchors for their survival when both communist China and communist oriented Russian govts decide to start assuming control of their holdings.

There is one solution to this problem, and it is an honest solution based in true democratic principles. There needs to be a nationwide referendum on the Kosovo issue. The question which should be asked of the people of Serbia is straightforward-fight for Kosovo or let it go.

When the people give thier answer the politicians in Belgrade will have an undisputable mandate for whichever policy they create based on the answer to that question. But as usuall the ruling parties in Serbia are afraid of the opnion of thier own people and need to keep the corrupt status quo in effect so that thier hidden and often personal agendas are not sidelined. We need true democracy in serbia coupled with an actually independent, honest and brave press. But what we have in Serbia today is the equivalent of a Balkan bananna republic.

In my personal opnion, Kosovo should be divided. But as things stand now it would also be hypocritical that during the proposed referendum, the 2 million estimated Albanians in Kosovo would not be allowed to vote in the referendum. Give everybody a voice, push the self serving politicians to the side and let the chips fall where they may.

If we Serbs decide that Kosovo is not worth a long a prolonged conflict then the politicians need to make one important fact clear to all parties concerned, esspecially to the the US and the Germanic nations of northern europe. No more carving up of Serbian land, no greater autonomy for Voijvoidina and no talk of seperatism in Sandzak. The authorites need to make this a requirement for any further discussion about the loss of Kosovo.

"Serbia recognizing Kosovo is EU's condition"
As much as I want this statement to be true (I’m an Albanian from Kosova/o) I don’t think it is. This is just another Serbian strategic move. Why?
(Blue and gold, 13 December 2011 20:10)

That's an easy way to rape the country economically, sell for 10 Cent what is worth $1 but get some percentage... and blame someone else. And at the same time secure the support to get elected.

Familiar story and strategy - just the tactics varies from one post-Communist country to an other.

I agree with Milan, dividing Kosovo would be a good idea. There is no way Serbia is going to get Kosovo back, nor will North Kosovo ever be ruled by Pristina without a lot of bloodshed. So Serbia should unilaterall annex North Kosovo while recognizing the independence of the rest. this is such an obvious decision, a referendum should not be necessary.

ah...so nice to see a serb official admit he was lying all along.

not that we didnt know it nor was it sadly transparent mind you, but still its nice to hear.

So they like blaming Milosevic for this situation but at least he gave us UNSCR1244.
(Zoran, 13 December 2011 13:27)

Milosevic gave you 1244 ?! Milosevic pleaded as much as he could for 1244 not to be approved because it meant dismemberment of Serbia (Milosevic's words) but the Russian big brother did not pay any attention to those pleadings...

Who even voted for these idiots? It was obvious back then what their intentions were.
(Zoran, 13 December 2011 13:27)

I distinctly remember the majority of Serbs voted for them...

Where are the extraditions for Thachi and other KLA leaders for henious crimes during the 1998-1999 war in Kosovo and after the war until this day? Clinton over the bombings of Republika Srpska and FR Yugoslavia? Blair for FR Yugoslavia, Afghanistan & Iraq? Bush also for Afghanistan and Iraq? Sarkozy, Cameron, Obama and others for Libya?

The list goes on, 'international law' applies only to those who the west choose. But oh wait, all western war crimes and their allies are done in the name of defence and protection of human rights right?
(SCP UK, 13 December 2011 16:06)

Sorry, but there is no any international arrest warrant for those people you named. If you have proofs of their crimes, what are you waiting ?! Go and denounce them to the appropriate prosecutors...

(pss, 14 December 2011 13:20)

“Why would you trust the plannings of "banks" in the east, they are built on the same principles of the west. The economy of the east is just on a slower train than the west not a different track. “

Sadly to say the banks in Asia are very different, especially the Chinese. They are better controlled and monitored organisations whereas in the west they control the government and that is why you have this horrible mess called the GFC.

“China has built its economy on cheap labor and inflated real estate just like the west. Now you are seeing discontent among the cheap labor like in the west and probably a soon to be collapse of the inflated real estate. “

It might surprise you that cheap labour is how the US started its industry, but I guess they no longer teach these subjects in history classes. It’s more like the US popped out of the ground wealthy.

The Chinese government is well aware of the real estate bubble and keeps a tight control on it as well as inflation. What they tell you in the west does not come even close to reality. For example, in a recent article it was stated that Chinese riot squads had to be sent to a province to quell an uprising because developers had taken people’s land without compensation – WRONG, they paid compensation; in fact it was above local price. But it was groups who did not want to leave that were causing problems – just like your Wall Street protestors, you do recall them? Don’t you?

On top, China has over 3 trillion in reserves.

“Russia is built on its energy resources but the same as in the 90's that is controlled by the political stability and there are some huge cracks showing there.”

Once again you’re like a mushroom kept in the dark and fed on BS. There are no huge cracks showing mate. It’s what your free press like tell you – how much does it spend time in covering poverty in the US? Very little. The facts are that Putin is by far the most popular politician alive today in Russia and the west does not like Vlad because he is spreading Russian influence by kicking the US out of central Asia and who is stopping the expansion of NATO by keeping Kosovo as it is today.

The Russians have 500 billion in foreign currency in reserves with just as much, if not more, in gold. It ows nothing and its expanding its industry at its pace. Now look at the US – 15.1 trillion federal debt alone; every state in the US is BROKE which would take the total government debt to 22 trillion; it has an unfunded liability (medicare, social security, military pensions etc) of 115 trillion.


“Both China and Russia have created a class of super rich that is set off from the rest of the people. If you will notice where are they spending their money?? They are buying up things in the west, do you think they are doing this because they think it will collapse and they will be left with worthless property???? “

As if the west does not have its wealthy. The wealth you are talking about is 90% based in their respective countries and like all wealthy people, even ordinary people who have a little money, they diversify their investments to maximise earnings. The Chinese are buying up mineral deposits in Africa and Australia; their people are buying real estate in Australia as well. There is nothing odd in buying quality investment.

“They are setting out anchors for their survival when both communist China and communist oriented Russian govts decide to start assuming control of their holdings.”

I hate to disappoint you but even the next President of China stated on several occasions it is in China’s interest and security to nurture the growth of its industry as well as create its own wealthy elite. He also said that democracy will happen in China but it has to be done at China’s pace.

Even though I have said many times about the demise of the US I would buy property opposite Central Park in NY if I had the money – its called prime investment. That never loses its value.


(icj1, 14 December 2011 06:14)

“Why is Serbia that rich to make it shine ? “

Simple mate, get a map and look where Serbia is located. Without Serbia in NATO, that little group is disjointed and if you dig a little deeper you will find out that if you travel by car from Berlin to Istanbul through Serbia it takes 4 days but if you travel around it, it takes 7. That is why.


“I think they have their own problems before dealing with Serbia’s ones. Putin pockets are much more important that the lives of thousands of Serbs. “

And naturally Brussels is so human rights orientated to be concerned about the great unwashed in Pristina eh? Serbia is very important to Putin. That is why the southstream pipline is going through Serbia. It is not in Russia’s interests to allow Kosovo to go free.


“Mate, Asian banks can’t be that unprepared and prepare plans for events only when those events are certain. You, as one of the most brilliant minds in finance and economics living in Asia, have to do more work to make sure that banks there prepare for events even before they become certain because finance and economics are not an exact science – an event may easily happen today even if its probability until the day before was 70%.


Why do you think companies that have been around for over 100 years are still with us today? Luck? No it’s called good planning and those plans are updated regularly based on real events at the time and where they could lead. Some plan 50 years ahead.

To you I am a brilliant mind in finance but to anyone else who bothers to do some research it’s obvious as the nose on your face that planning is of the essence.
There is no magic involved at all.

To you I am a brilliant mind in finance but to anyone else who bothers to do some research it’s obvious as the nose on your face that planning is of the essence.
There is no magic involved at all.
(sj, 15 December 2011 00:11)
This is the post that I have to print and save for future times when I need a chuckle.

To me you are a "legend in your own mind"
I am not naive enough to believe everything printed, but I would beleive our "free press" quicker than news coming from presses in China, Russia, and comments sections.
Your post is so full of inaccuracies there is no tackling them all but I would like to say my point on cheap labor is exactly what you said America was built on cheap labor, now it is expensive China and India are on the same track they just took a slower train.
Do you really believe anyone, I mean anyone would disregard everything that is out there and trust only what you say??? Maybe your children but they to will someday develop minds of their own.

Oh Dacic, common, no one asked you that. Now that Tadic failed his European bid he is running to wear the nationalist costume.

Serbs must be fools if they fall for what this clown is saying or if they vote for him again.

(think about it, 15 December 2011 10:24)

No they only have about 800 billion in the US and the investment in Eurobonds has been done for a specific reason in that it has free access to the EU market – for every Euro they have invested they expect to reap 1000 back; its not done out of love but for profit. In actual fact they have about 2 trillion in foreign reserves right now which is at China’s disposal.

China and the other BRICs do not want a sudden collapse of the west, but what it wants is a slow decline because the ripple affects are much less. The BRIC countries want the “baton” passed on smoothly rather than having to deal with economic chaos.

After the BS involving western rating agencies the Chinese now run theirs own rating agencies. They do not want a bar of Moodys and Poors and others as they gave the toxic loan a 100% rating.


(pss, 15 December 2011 07:28)


Unfortunately every post you have made that requires proof that reeks of extracts from the western media and you have the gall to claim not to be “naive enough to believe everything printed”. And if I make a comment then “where is the proof”.

You expect me to write a thesis to explain my comments, I have had more dealings with governments that you will see in ten life times and I don’t trust any of them let alone the so called free press.

I make comments based on my many years experience in the workforce and I make an assessment based on current trends. I understand you don’t like my “negative” comments about the west, but I can’t help it, if the Us has peed it riches up against the wall and is sinking into a pit of debt. But tell me where have I gone wrong!!!! I have been saying that the Us is in more trouble than what they are telling its people and it is 100% correct; I have been saying that the EU is on the verge of collapse and low and behold it is happening right now.

The classic of all classics headlines yesterday was “Bernanke worries Europe's woes will spill into U.S.” Of course it will affect the US in a big way. I now know why he is head of your reserve. The dumber they are the better the chance of being in charge of the central bank. I’ll tell you who is a dangerous person - Tim Geithner. He is the smartest of all of them.

It is not because I am a fortune teller or that I am smarter that you or anyone else. It is simply because the information is out there and all you have to do is add 2 and 2 to get 4. The problem is that your media and government are telling you that it’s actually 12.