Germany: Too early for Serbia’s EU candidacy

Again I say, Serbia should stop jumping through the EU's endless hoops. Stand independent...

German Chancellor Angela Merkel said last Friday in Bundestag that “conditions necessary to grant Serbia the EU candidate status have not been fulfilled for now” and that “Serbia’s path to the EU leads only through normalization of relations with Kosovo”.

It's ironic that a country that EXTERMINATED 6 MIllION Jewish people didn't lose a square inch of land at the same time giving away someone else's land (Palastine) to settle up and the United States who wiped out the indiginous indian population, enslaved millions of africans and annihilated 2 Janpanese cities killing scores of innocent civilians are the worlds moral compass.

So Germany doesn't think we have enough money yet to join and become a slave to western consumerism.
Fine, we will just keep buying stolen BMW's.
The Swiss manage to muddle through without being in any 'club'
I will vote for a neutral Serbia.

Congratulations Serbia more days of freedom from raiding multinationals who don't give beans about people and what is good for independent countries economies as long as they get their kilo of flesh. They even force you to make perverted laws to do so. Clean your seas ,oceans land of all its resources in the end leave you more poorer environment degraded unsustainable as long as they squeeze the last profit out off you then move on to the next victim.

Merkel wants to eat the cookie and save it for later at the same time. But it will not work. After december 9 EU pressure will in effect disappear and Serbia will be set free. Only two days left until relief now.

The Joker in the Deck has spoken !!!.

Tadic is made a loser completely.

By Tadic !.

Arn.Sweden.

We shouldn't have given a permission for Germany to unite...

Chineese occupation zone for Germany next time...
------------------
After WWII Arab diplomats asked why Arabs should offer land for Israel, not Germany...

Merry Christmas Serbia. You have no idea what you have just escaped from.

I would say that it is too late rather than too early..... If Serbia keeps on waiting it won't find any European Union left. Not a big deal, we do love each other anyway....;-)

Germany still can't accept that they lost the war.... twice!

Actually, this is good for Serbia as the EU is still a sinking ship. For now I am happy to exchange my US dollars for dinars each year and support the Serbian economy. :)

Thank you German Chancellor Angela Merkel: She is smart lady she knowes Government of Serbia can not be trust it who ever trust Serbian Government or peopele have to be Naive Serbian lie they are not trustabel Government, Best thing for EU and region is to make Serbia "frozen candidate until all the Roadblocks in Mitrovica are removed and other things are taking care like Law and order Electricity etc.

No more discounts for Serbia???

- No reforms yet SAA was signed.

- 250km of border outside of acceptable standards of control yet again visa-free regime was given.

- Now you want even candidate status?

enough is enough???

Serbia CAN and will be a EU member.
Kosovo CAN NEVER and will never be a EU member.
Serbia with its province Kosovo can be a EU member.
Funny huh.

"We shouldn't have given a permission for Germany to unite...
(aaayyy"

Who is 'We'?
(metrod, 7 December 2011 16:51)

Try and guess :) Why gave Germany permission to unite?

Try and guess :) Who gave Germany permission to unite?
(aaayyy, 7 December 2011 17:31)

Certainly not Serbia since nobody cared to ask it; Russia was paid to agree, France got the infamous Euro, UK is still crying "4th Reich" on every occasion, the US didn't care. So please tell us: who is "we"?

German Chancellor Angela Merkel said last Friday in Bundestag that “conditions necessary to grant Serbia the EU candidate status have not been fulfilled for now” and that “Serbia’s path to the EU leads only through normalization of relations with Kosovo”.

Need I say anymore ladies&gents?

"We shouldn't have given a permission for Germany to unite...
(aaayyy"

Who is 'We'?

"We shouldn't have given a permission for Germany to unite...
(aaayyy"

Who is 'We'?
(metrod, 7 December 2011 16:51)

Try and guess :) Who gave Germany permission to unite?

"It's ironic that a country that EXTERMINATED 6 MIllION Jewish people didn't lose a square inch of land ..."

Don't be silly - they lost Königsberg, capital of East Prussia site since the late Middle Ages (their "hearths" there were undoubtedly older than most of those of the Serbs living in northern Kosovo). Hundreds of thousands of Germans were driven, fairly brutally, from where they had lived for centuries in settlements throughout Europe (where they had been invited to settle, because of their skills), with no talk of compensation. Germans tend not to whine, so maybe you missed it.

9:30 is too early.
16:40 is too late.

Merkel's comment about parallel institutions recently was a humiliation to Serbia and to Tadic's policy of EU cooperation. I think her policy is ill-considered and she should show a better attitude. Big sticks should not be over-used. The war criminals have been sent to the Hague - now is the time to reward Serbia.

There does come a time when Serbia needs to assert its own limits - at whatever cost. Perhaps that time is now. Serbia must join the EU, but only with its assertion of ownership of Kosovo in place. Serbia's humiliation should only be taken so far.

By going along with 1244 Serbia is doing the world a favour. There are alternatives which could cost lives and destabilise the region. While pragmatics rule, 1244 will continue to be in place. 1244 was set up at the end of a war but it is not something that has to stand forever. In legal practice, Serbia could derogate 1244 because the attempted udi is an active breach of its terms and then legitimately seek to take back control. If some political party or group succeeds in destabilising the region, this degeneration is perfectly possible. Tadic wants to avoid this.

Serbia had (and has) a legal right to defend its territory by force - the problem was not the fighting (which was legal) but the issue of war crimes (which were illegal). Serbia's mistake was to not conform to the rules of war and human rights legislation. That was effectively the invitation from Milosevic that bought NATO into the situation.

If Serbia is not given candidate status quickly, there is a distinct possibility that reawakened resentments may come into play. Moderate politics is in its infancy in Serbia, but is still the preference of most people - without support from the outside (not just a big stick) destabilisation is still very possible.

I don't go along with the dream of some of the posters that the EU is about to fall apart - economic depressions do pass. However, I don't go along with the idea that Germany should be the sole determiner of EU policy. Merkel is not everything. The EU should be ruled by all the nations in it, not just by the Germans.

Serbia needs encouragement - candidate status would be a good step. The last few days have shown a positive attitude from Belgrade. The people of Northern Kosovo border the country in which they were born - any artificial border imposed between them and their heritage is bound to cause friction. Belgrade has shown as good a level of willingness to deal with this recent situation as peaceably as is reasonably possible. It is well accepted that Pristina would be happy to quietly ethnically cleanse the north - Merkel does not appear to care about that.

Merkel is wrong to turn Kosovo into a key issue and could show better understanding of the needs of the locals.

Certainly not Serbia since nobody cared to ask it; Russia was paid to agree, France got the infamous Euro, UK is still crying "4th Reich" on every occasion, the US didn't care. So please tell us: who is "we"?
(pro-me, 7 December 2011 17:58)

Russia withdrew its troops from Eastern Germany, allowing Germany to unite. People in Russia didn't get anything for that unprecedental gift, while some high ranked officials got some money which could be seen as bribe.

Germany had extraodinary geopolitical skills of designing world map, every time it practices its skills we can see more bloody wars. Though local nationalists also contributed to the wars of course.

I don't think that Serbia has anything to worry about considering the state of the economies in the EU.

Yeah, best news I've heard all year. No need to part of this dysfunctional arrangement.

German's don't whine? WWII was a lot of German whining about what happened after WWI. Germany messing with Serbs again. Just like they destroyed Yugoslavia when a Serb got to ran it. Germany says Serbia must recognize Kosovo independence? Tadic will do it. No doubt about that. Tadic wants EU membership which is somehow being treated as something Serbs want when the polls say they don't want it in the numbers they did when they chose Tadic and EU over Kosovo.

We shouldn't have given a permission for Germany to unite...
(aaayyy, 7 December 2011 16:09)

We should given it - but not without conditions. It was a free giveaway and a sign of the goodwill. In exchange we got nothing...

"Don't be taken by his welcome grin" ;)
(Ataman, 8 December 2011 02:31)

Exactly.

Amer,A just a word to the wise WWII took place after the Middle Ages.

Germans tend not to whine, so maybe you missed it.
(Amer, 7 December 2011 21:35)

O'Reilly?

We shouldn't have given a permission for Germany to unite...
(aaayyy, 7 December 2011 16:09)

We should given it - but not without conditions. It was a free giveaway and a sign of the goodwill. In exchange we got nothing, only aggression and betrayal and scam and theft of territory. American political elite did show they are merely an other crocodile. And ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMaPTZdwjPE

"Don't be taken by his welcome grin" ;)

Thank you German Chancellor Angela Merkel: She is smart lady she knowes Government of Serbia can not be trust it who ever trust Serbian Government or peopele have to be Naive Serbian lie they are not trustabel Government, Best thing for EU and region is to make Serbia "frozen candidate until all the Roadblocks in Mitrovica are removed and other things are taking care like Law and order Electricity etc.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel said last Friday in Bundestag that “conditions necessary to grant Serbia the EU candidate status have not been fulfilled for now” and that “Serbia’s path to the EU leads only through normalization of relations with Kosovo”.

Need I say anymore ladies&gents?

No more discounts for Serbia???

- No reforms yet SAA was signed.

- 250km of border outside of acceptable standards of control yet again visa-free regime was given.

- Now you want even candidate status?

enough is enough???

Try and guess :) Who gave Germany permission to unite?
(aaayyy, 7 December 2011 17:31)

Certainly not Serbia since nobody cared to ask it; Russia was paid to agree, France got the infamous Euro, UK is still crying "4th Reich" on every occasion, the US didn't care. So please tell us: who is "we"?

"We shouldn't have given a permission for Germany to unite...
(aaayyy"

Who is 'We'?

German Chancellor Angela Merkel said last Friday in Bundestag that “conditions necessary to grant Serbia the EU candidate status have not been fulfilled for now” and that “Serbia’s path to the EU leads only through normalization of relations with Kosovo”.

It's ironic that a country that EXTERMINATED 6 MIllION Jewish people didn't lose a square inch of land at the same time giving away someone else's land (Palastine) to settle up and the United States who wiped out the indiginous indian population, enslaved millions of africans and annihilated 2 Janpanese cities killing scores of innocent civilians are the worlds moral compass.

Merkel wants to eat the cookie and save it for later at the same time. But it will not work. After december 9 EU pressure will in effect disappear and Serbia will be set free. Only two days left until relief now.

"We shouldn't have given a permission for Germany to unite...
(aaayyy"

Who is 'We'?
(metrod, 7 December 2011 16:51)

Try and guess :) Who gave Germany permission to unite?

We shouldn't have given a permission for Germany to unite...

"It's ironic that a country that EXTERMINATED 6 MIllION Jewish people didn't lose a square inch of land ..."

Don't be silly - they lost Königsberg, capital of East Prussia site since the late Middle Ages (their "hearths" there were undoubtedly older than most of those of the Serbs living in northern Kosovo). Hundreds of thousands of Germans were driven, fairly brutally, from where they had lived for centuries in settlements throughout Europe (where they had been invited to settle, because of their skills), with no talk of compensation. Germans tend not to whine, so maybe you missed it.

Serbia CAN and will be a EU member.
Kosovo CAN NEVER and will never be a EU member.
Serbia with its province Kosovo can be a EU member.
Funny huh.

Chineese occupation zone for Germany next time...
------------------
After WWII Arab diplomats asked why Arabs should offer land for Israel, not Germany...

Again I say, Serbia should stop jumping through the EU's endless hoops. Stand independent...

Merry Christmas Serbia. You have no idea what you have just escaped from.

So Germany doesn't think we have enough money yet to join and become a slave to western consumerism.
Fine, we will just keep buying stolen BMW's.
The Swiss manage to muddle through without being in any 'club'
I will vote for a neutral Serbia.

Germany still can't accept that they lost the war.... twice!

Actually, this is good for Serbia as the EU is still a sinking ship. For now I am happy to exchange my US dollars for dinars each year and support the Serbian economy. :)

"We shouldn't have given a permission for Germany to unite...
(aaayyy"

Who is 'We'?
(metrod, 7 December 2011 16:51)

Try and guess :) Why gave Germany permission to unite?

Congratulations Serbia more days of freedom from raiding multinationals who don't give beans about people and what is good for independent countries economies as long as they get their kilo of flesh. They even force you to make perverted laws to do so. Clean your seas ,oceans land of all its resources in the end leave you more poorer environment degraded unsustainable as long as they squeeze the last profit out off you then move on to the next victim.

The Joker in the Deck has spoken !!!.

Tadic is made a loser completely.

By Tadic !.

Arn.Sweden.

German's don't whine? WWII was a lot of German whining about what happened after WWI. Germany messing with Serbs again. Just like they destroyed Yugoslavia when a Serb got to ran it. Germany says Serbia must recognize Kosovo independence? Tadic will do it. No doubt about that. Tadic wants EU membership which is somehow being treated as something Serbs want when the polls say they don't want it in the numbers they did when they chose Tadic and EU over Kosovo.

Certainly not Serbia since nobody cared to ask it; Russia was paid to agree, France got the infamous Euro, UK is still crying "4th Reich" on every occasion, the US didn't care. So please tell us: who is "we"?
(pro-me, 7 December 2011 17:58)

Russia withdrew its troops from Eastern Germany, allowing Germany to unite. People in Russia didn't get anything for that unprecedental gift, while some high ranked officials got some money which could be seen as bribe.

Germany had extraodinary geopolitical skills of designing world map, every time it practices its skills we can see more bloody wars. Though local nationalists also contributed to the wars of course.

We shouldn't have given a permission for Germany to unite...
(aaayyy, 7 December 2011 16:09)

We should given it - but not without conditions. It was a free giveaway and a sign of the goodwill. In exchange we got nothing...

"Don't be taken by his welcome grin" ;)
(Ataman, 8 December 2011 02:31)

Exactly.

I would say that it is too late rather than too early..... If Serbia keeps on waiting it won't find any European Union left. Not a big deal, we do love each other anyway....;-)

Germans tend not to whine, so maybe you missed it.
(Amer, 7 December 2011 21:35)

O'Reilly?

We shouldn't have given a permission for Germany to unite...
(aaayyy, 7 December 2011 16:09)

We should given it - but not without conditions. It was a free giveaway and a sign of the goodwill. In exchange we got nothing, only aggression and betrayal and scam and theft of territory. American political elite did show they are merely an other crocodile. And ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMaPTZdwjPE

"Don't be taken by his welcome grin" ;)

Amer,A just a word to the wise WWII took place after the Middle Ages.

9:30 is too early.
16:40 is too late.

Merkel's comment about parallel institutions recently was a humiliation to Serbia and to Tadic's policy of EU cooperation. I think her policy is ill-considered and she should show a better attitude. Big sticks should not be over-used. The war criminals have been sent to the Hague - now is the time to reward Serbia.

There does come a time when Serbia needs to assert its own limits - at whatever cost. Perhaps that time is now. Serbia must join the EU, but only with its assertion of ownership of Kosovo in place. Serbia's humiliation should only be taken so far.

By going along with 1244 Serbia is doing the world a favour. There are alternatives which could cost lives and destabilise the region. While pragmatics rule, 1244 will continue to be in place. 1244 was set up at the end of a war but it is not something that has to stand forever. In legal practice, Serbia could derogate 1244 because the attempted udi is an active breach of its terms and then legitimately seek to take back control. If some political party or group succeeds in destabilising the region, this degeneration is perfectly possible. Tadic wants to avoid this.

Serbia had (and has) a legal right to defend its territory by force - the problem was not the fighting (which was legal) but the issue of war crimes (which were illegal). Serbia's mistake was to not conform to the rules of war and human rights legislation. That was effectively the invitation from Milosevic that bought NATO into the situation.

If Serbia is not given candidate status quickly, there is a distinct possibility that reawakened resentments may come into play. Moderate politics is in its infancy in Serbia, but is still the preference of most people - without support from the outside (not just a big stick) destabilisation is still very possible.

I don't go along with the dream of some of the posters that the EU is about to fall apart - economic depressions do pass. However, I don't go along with the idea that Germany should be the sole determiner of EU policy. Merkel is not everything. The EU should be ruled by all the nations in it, not just by the Germans.

Serbia needs encouragement - candidate status would be a good step. The last few days have shown a positive attitude from Belgrade. The people of Northern Kosovo border the country in which they were born - any artificial border imposed between them and their heritage is bound to cause friction. Belgrade has shown as good a level of willingness to deal with this recent situation as peaceably as is reasonably possible. It is well accepted that Pristina would be happy to quietly ethnically cleanse the north - Merkel does not appear to care about that.

Merkel is wrong to turn Kosovo into a key issue and could show better understanding of the needs of the locals.

Yeah, best news I've heard all year. No need to part of this dysfunctional arrangement.

I don't think that Serbia has anything to worry about considering the state of the economies in the EU.