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Monday, 05.12.2011.

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Holland to apologize for 1947 massacre

The Dutch government will this week send an official apology to Indonesiaover a massacre committed by its troops in 1947.

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robert1899

pre 12 godina

A lot of people on here are having a go at the Netherlands and other Western countries for committing massacres and crimes in the past. I ask you, name one country without blood on its hands?

Every country has a dark history. But because the west has wronged in the past somehow means that they are not allowed to have an opinion or intervene when others are wronging? Ridiculous.

Remember the old saying, two wrongs don't make a right.
(Ian, UK, 6 December 2011 00:11)

Ian, The problem is that those countries profited bigtime and NEVER paid back the one's who suffered. Look at the your country for example U.K., what natural resources or wealth does it have? It would be a blackhole if not for the riches it piliged from the rest of the world, its all well documented but never PAID back. They only apologize and tell others not to do what we did. In the end they keep what they stole.

joeElli

pre 12 godina

Ian,
it is not so much that those 'other' countries, that have imperialistic pasts, that have rapped and pillaged, do not have an opinion, but it is highly hypocritical to tell someone how wrong they are without dealing with your own wrong doings. if the nations that think they have cornered the market on riteous behaviour have skeltons such as this in their closets i ask you how reasonable of a mentor nation they are? if these nations of peace wish to propgate peace they should perhaps try to do so by example instead of shallow rhetoric.

respect and leadership are earned, not given or taken. this is the problem that these western nations have. they think that because they've run roughshod all over the planet, colonizing every corner in order to remove the valuables, kill the natives (if need be) and overall destroy to new colony in order to prop up their own homeland, that they should be listened to exclusively.

basically the west is saying in not so many words that it is ok to do whatever you want as long as you are strong enough. and only once the strong decide that it is no longer acceptable to do something everybody else must follow suite.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

The Dutch have a rather lengthy track record of being directly involved or accomplices to massacres. In a parallel universe, Holland's apology would possibly convince Serbia to unblock its SAA membership in the EU :)

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

A lot of people on here are having a go at the Netherlands and other Western countries for committing massacres and crimes in the past. I ask you, name one country without blood on its hands?

Every country has a dark history. But because the west has wronged in the past somehow means that they are not allowed to have an opinion or intervene when others are wronging? Ridiculous.

Remember the old saying, two wrongs don't make a right.

Joe A

pre 12 godina

As I recall, Tadic has apologized over warcrimes committed by Serbs in the Balkan wars. So, Serbia was at least 64 years ahead of Holland. I am Dutch and I know how long this issue took, shamefully.

robert1899

pre 12 godina

Commies like you don't even know where they should start apologizing for all the suffering your kind has caused.
(pro-me, 5 December 2011 19:43)

Sure beats hypocrites such as yourself. "Do as I say not as I do."

New Zealander

pre 12 godina

When troops from the Netherlands (under orders) massacre hundreds of people the compensation given stands at 500-1200 Euros per head

When a Libyan agent (probably acting in his own capacity, and not state sanctioned) blows up a plane the compensation given is 10 Million US per head.

The Average Libyan (pre civil war) earns a quater of what the average Dutch man earns

Is it just me or is something seriously wrong here?

trizo

pre 12 godina

Great show of leadership (NOT), it ONLY took them 64 YEARS and if the number of massacred was 150 that would amount to 1200 Euros a head. Its really ironic how these western countries built their wealth and power on the backs of the innocent people throughout the world.
(robert1899, 5 December 2011 17:57)

Well said.
Some of those countries include: USA, Holland, France, Great Britain, Portugese = all countries that have acted with superiority over Serbia and looked down upon us.

Usually I wouldn't list france but this hungarian Sarkozy is racist and kills gypsies on the weekends. Perhaps why him and Merkel get on so well.

really

pre 12 godina

Tell us Bob...if they slaughtered your mother, brother, sister, father, children, whatever...would you be happy that the world moved on? Doubt it.

grasshopper

pre 12 godina

and Holland judges and tell Serbia for example what it needs to do or say. this nation should stick to what it knows best, smokin grass in cafes and drinking coffee. hey, it only took them 65 years for murdering beyond it'shores as an imperialist racist nation. it falls short..when is Holland going to apologize for South African and it's Afrikanas?

pro-me

pre 12 godina

Great show of leadership (NOT), it ONLY took them 64 YEARS and if the number of massacred was 150 that would amount to 1200 Euros a head. Its really ironic how these western countries built their wealth and power on the backs of the innocent people throughout the world.
(robert1899, 5 December 2011 17:57)

Commies like you don't even know where they should start apologizing for all the suffering your kind has caused.

robert1899

pre 12 godina

Great show of leadership (NOT), it ONLY took them 64 YEARS and if the number of massacred was 150 that would amount to 1200 Euros a head. Its really ironic how these western countries built their wealth and power on the backs of the innocent people throughout the world.

robert1899

pre 12 godina

Great show of leadership (NOT), it ONLY took them 64 YEARS and if the number of massacred was 150 that would amount to 1200 Euros a head. Its really ironic how these western countries built their wealth and power on the backs of the innocent people throughout the world.

grasshopper

pre 12 godina

and Holland judges and tell Serbia for example what it needs to do or say. this nation should stick to what it knows best, smokin grass in cafes and drinking coffee. hey, it only took them 65 years for murdering beyond it'shores as an imperialist racist nation. it falls short..when is Holland going to apologize for South African and it's Afrikanas?

trizo

pre 12 godina

Great show of leadership (NOT), it ONLY took them 64 YEARS and if the number of massacred was 150 that would amount to 1200 Euros a head. Its really ironic how these western countries built their wealth and power on the backs of the innocent people throughout the world.
(robert1899, 5 December 2011 17:57)

Well said.
Some of those countries include: USA, Holland, France, Great Britain, Portugese = all countries that have acted with superiority over Serbia and looked down upon us.

Usually I wouldn't list france but this hungarian Sarkozy is racist and kills gypsies on the weekends. Perhaps why him and Merkel get on so well.

pro-me

pre 12 godina

Great show of leadership (NOT), it ONLY took them 64 YEARS and if the number of massacred was 150 that would amount to 1200 Euros a head. Its really ironic how these western countries built their wealth and power on the backs of the innocent people throughout the world.
(robert1899, 5 December 2011 17:57)

Commies like you don't even know where they should start apologizing for all the suffering your kind has caused.

Joe A

pre 12 godina

As I recall, Tadic has apologized over warcrimes committed by Serbs in the Balkan wars. So, Serbia was at least 64 years ahead of Holland. I am Dutch and I know how long this issue took, shamefully.

New Zealander

pre 12 godina

When troops from the Netherlands (under orders) massacre hundreds of people the compensation given stands at 500-1200 Euros per head

When a Libyan agent (probably acting in his own capacity, and not state sanctioned) blows up a plane the compensation given is 10 Million US per head.

The Average Libyan (pre civil war) earns a quater of what the average Dutch man earns

Is it just me or is something seriously wrong here?

robert1899

pre 12 godina

A lot of people on here are having a go at the Netherlands and other Western countries for committing massacres and crimes in the past. I ask you, name one country without blood on its hands?

Every country has a dark history. But because the west has wronged in the past somehow means that they are not allowed to have an opinion or intervene when others are wronging? Ridiculous.

Remember the old saying, two wrongs don't make a right.
(Ian, UK, 6 December 2011 00:11)

Ian, The problem is that those countries profited bigtime and NEVER paid back the one's who suffered. Look at the your country for example U.K., what natural resources or wealth does it have? It would be a blackhole if not for the riches it piliged from the rest of the world, its all well documented but never PAID back. They only apologize and tell others not to do what we did. In the end they keep what they stole.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

The Dutch have a rather lengthy track record of being directly involved or accomplices to massacres. In a parallel universe, Holland's apology would possibly convince Serbia to unblock its SAA membership in the EU :)

robert1899

pre 12 godina

Commies like you don't even know where they should start apologizing for all the suffering your kind has caused.
(pro-me, 5 December 2011 19:43)

Sure beats hypocrites such as yourself. "Do as I say not as I do."

really

pre 12 godina

Tell us Bob...if they slaughtered your mother, brother, sister, father, children, whatever...would you be happy that the world moved on? Doubt it.

joeElli

pre 12 godina

Ian,
it is not so much that those 'other' countries, that have imperialistic pasts, that have rapped and pillaged, do not have an opinion, but it is highly hypocritical to tell someone how wrong they are without dealing with your own wrong doings. if the nations that think they have cornered the market on riteous behaviour have skeltons such as this in their closets i ask you how reasonable of a mentor nation they are? if these nations of peace wish to propgate peace they should perhaps try to do so by example instead of shallow rhetoric.

respect and leadership are earned, not given or taken. this is the problem that these western nations have. they think that because they've run roughshod all over the planet, colonizing every corner in order to remove the valuables, kill the natives (if need be) and overall destroy to new colony in order to prop up their own homeland, that they should be listened to exclusively.

basically the west is saying in not so many words that it is ok to do whatever you want as long as you are strong enough. and only once the strong decide that it is no longer acceptable to do something everybody else must follow suite.

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

A lot of people on here are having a go at the Netherlands and other Western countries for committing massacres and crimes in the past. I ask you, name one country without blood on its hands?

Every country has a dark history. But because the west has wronged in the past somehow means that they are not allowed to have an opinion or intervene when others are wronging? Ridiculous.

Remember the old saying, two wrongs don't make a right.

pro-me

pre 12 godina

Great show of leadership (NOT), it ONLY took them 64 YEARS and if the number of massacred was 150 that would amount to 1200 Euros a head. Its really ironic how these western countries built their wealth and power on the backs of the innocent people throughout the world.
(robert1899, 5 December 2011 17:57)

Commies like you don't even know where they should start apologizing for all the suffering your kind has caused.

robert1899

pre 12 godina

Commies like you don't even know where they should start apologizing for all the suffering your kind has caused.
(pro-me, 5 December 2011 19:43)

Sure beats hypocrites such as yourself. "Do as I say not as I do."

robert1899

pre 12 godina

A lot of people on here are having a go at the Netherlands and other Western countries for committing massacres and crimes in the past. I ask you, name one country without blood on its hands?

Every country has a dark history. But because the west has wronged in the past somehow means that they are not allowed to have an opinion or intervene when others are wronging? Ridiculous.

Remember the old saying, two wrongs don't make a right.
(Ian, UK, 6 December 2011 00:11)

Ian, The problem is that those countries profited bigtime and NEVER paid back the one's who suffered. Look at the your country for example U.K., what natural resources or wealth does it have? It would be a blackhole if not for the riches it piliged from the rest of the world, its all well documented but never PAID back. They only apologize and tell others not to do what we did. In the end they keep what they stole.

grasshopper

pre 12 godina

and Holland judges and tell Serbia for example what it needs to do or say. this nation should stick to what it knows best, smokin grass in cafes and drinking coffee. hey, it only took them 65 years for murdering beyond it'shores as an imperialist racist nation. it falls short..when is Holland going to apologize for South African and it's Afrikanas?

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

A lot of people on here are having a go at the Netherlands and other Western countries for committing massacres and crimes in the past. I ask you, name one country without blood on its hands?

Every country has a dark history. But because the west has wronged in the past somehow means that they are not allowed to have an opinion or intervene when others are wronging? Ridiculous.

Remember the old saying, two wrongs don't make a right.

trizo

pre 12 godina

Great show of leadership (NOT), it ONLY took them 64 YEARS and if the number of massacred was 150 that would amount to 1200 Euros a head. Its really ironic how these western countries built their wealth and power on the backs of the innocent people throughout the world.
(robert1899, 5 December 2011 17:57)

Well said.
Some of those countries include: USA, Holland, France, Great Britain, Portugese = all countries that have acted with superiority over Serbia and looked down upon us.

Usually I wouldn't list france but this hungarian Sarkozy is racist and kills gypsies on the weekends. Perhaps why him and Merkel get on so well.

robert1899

pre 12 godina

Great show of leadership (NOT), it ONLY took them 64 YEARS and if the number of massacred was 150 that would amount to 1200 Euros a head. Its really ironic how these western countries built their wealth and power on the backs of the innocent people throughout the world.

really

pre 12 godina

Tell us Bob...if they slaughtered your mother, brother, sister, father, children, whatever...would you be happy that the world moved on? Doubt it.

Joe A

pre 12 godina

As I recall, Tadic has apologized over warcrimes committed by Serbs in the Balkan wars. So, Serbia was at least 64 years ahead of Holland. I am Dutch and I know how long this issue took, shamefully.

New Zealander

pre 12 godina

When troops from the Netherlands (under orders) massacre hundreds of people the compensation given stands at 500-1200 Euros per head

When a Libyan agent (probably acting in his own capacity, and not state sanctioned) blows up a plane the compensation given is 10 Million US per head.

The Average Libyan (pre civil war) earns a quater of what the average Dutch man earns

Is it just me or is something seriously wrong here?

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

The Dutch have a rather lengthy track record of being directly involved or accomplices to massacres. In a parallel universe, Holland's apology would possibly convince Serbia to unblock its SAA membership in the EU :)

joeElli

pre 12 godina

Ian,
it is not so much that those 'other' countries, that have imperialistic pasts, that have rapped and pillaged, do not have an opinion, but it is highly hypocritical to tell someone how wrong they are without dealing with your own wrong doings. if the nations that think they have cornered the market on riteous behaviour have skeltons such as this in their closets i ask you how reasonable of a mentor nation they are? if these nations of peace wish to propgate peace they should perhaps try to do so by example instead of shallow rhetoric.

respect and leadership are earned, not given or taken. this is the problem that these western nations have. they think that because they've run roughshod all over the planet, colonizing every corner in order to remove the valuables, kill the natives (if need be) and overall destroy to new colony in order to prop up their own homeland, that they should be listened to exclusively.

basically the west is saying in not so many words that it is ok to do whatever you want as long as you are strong enough. and only once the strong decide that it is no longer acceptable to do something everybody else must follow suite.