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Tuesday, 29.11.2011.

11:45

Army chief says VS "has plan for Kosovo"

Serbian Army (VS) Chief of the General Staff Lt. Gen. Miloje Miletić says that the military "has a plan to prevent a crisis in Kosovo - if it occurs".

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Pls say it ain't so!!!

pre 12 godina

At the end of World War two it took the Germans a while to be able to contemplate what they'd become once they'd been occupied by the allies, but after a long period of de-nazification, the German people accepted that what they'd been taught was lies and hate, apologised, and moved on. The same process can be used for the Kosovo Albanians.
(New Zealander, 29 November 2011 20:23)

@New Zealender
As much as l like the country that you live in NZ, had a blast down there in March, you need to get your personal act together. I’m sure you know you’re talking rubbish, as usual, but just read your own wording mate!!

You folk are not worth replying to…….

I do plan to go down to NZ this coming March and snatch me some Marlin….ahh, what a beautiful thing.

Pls say it ain't so!!!

pre 12 godina

what on earth does the dispute between kosovo and serbia have to do with greece? seriously, how on earth are the two even connected? was there a war between greece & albania in the last 10 years that i missed?
(adriatik, 1 December 2011 10:41)

@Adriatik

Adriatik, pls do yourself a favor and save some keystrokes by replying to the 'i have no clue who I am, or what I am" dude, with a “Bulgar from Ohrid” handle.

He claims that he’s Bulgarian I can’t dispute that; he claims that he’s from Ohrid, which is/was an Albanian land, and he talks rubbish by bringing up Greece into the game. A country that is in total bankruptcy and does not even recognize his so called country, Macedonia. LOL

Lord help him, he’s dazed and confused!!! Get your identity right ‘Bulgar’ and then try to make a bit of sense, as you’re confusing even your own kind. Whatever that is!!!

@ the confused Bulgar of Ohrid

Sorry you guys are greedy.. The Albanians if they want can end the conflict with the Serb.. what if the north was swapped for Presevo? there are still Serbs living south of the Ibar.. but there would be no Serbs living in Serbia.. and what about the Serbs cleansed from Kosovo..? Ethnic cleansing has been conducted in Kosovo.. this is why Albanians are 95% hence not really a fair deal.. or maybe southern Albania can go to Greece? and pogradec/mala prespa to Macedonia?
(Bulgar of Ohrid, 30 November 2011 13:44)

Yo ‘Mr. I have no identity and language of my own’, that will be you ‘Bulgar”; it’s not about being greedy, we’re just claiming our own.

Albanians conducted cleansing??? LMAO, you must’ve either been born yesterday, or your two brain cells are giving up on you; I think it’s the later.

Your confused piece of land that you call “Macedonia”, tried the same thing, but no cigar. Us, Albanians got the best of it, and I do understand you being angry and talking smack, but do and try to be real just for a second.

You bring up religion, Greece and other factors into this discussion, and I personally do understand the religion part of it. I have never been in Ohrid (Oher it’s the real name, FYI), but I do know that folks down there are quite religious. But there’s always a reason why one turns into religion, and by my reasoning, are comfort and desperation, which you folk have brought on (the desperation part of it).

I personally am a dedicated atheist (no pun intended to the religious folk), but do yourself a favor and stop throwing from the right field, as you’re making no sense whatsoever; no news there!!!!

We had enough of your BS and are totally committed to stop it, by all means. We sure know what we’re doing and we are way ahead of the game.

But do keep mumbling and spewing hatred as you always do (what a gift!), but you and your kind will never be able to win until you cleanse yourself of all the hatred you have build up in your system.

Ignorance is bliss!!!

adriatik

pre 12 godina

what on earth does the dispute between kosovo and serbia have to do with greece? seriously, how on earth are the two even connected? was there a war between greece & albania in the last 10 years that i missed?

Bulgar Of Ohrid

pre 12 godina

you really are talking garabge. southern albania to greece? why? i tell you what, while we're at it, we'll give southern macedonia to greece too and western macedonia to albania. perhaps Ulcin will be given to Albania too. you want a land swap between kosovo and serbia, what on earth does this have to do with greece? nothing. seriously, you have let your albanian paranoia get the better of you, let it go
(adriatik, 30 November 2011 14:13)

Mate Greece can have it.. no dramas, no paranoia here buddy.. doesnt bother me.. but persons right to self determination is what i matter about..

Canadian ALBO

pre 12 godina

You better pray to allah that NATO doesnt get tired of your lot..
(Bulgar Of Ohrid, 30 November 2011 11:21) ...DUDE R you commenting about arabs or albanians because if you talking about albanians we call the GOD because is one GOD and every language his name is different in albanian his name is ZOT.... as in serbian BOG and as in albanian a call him ZOT on english GOD or slavic BOG

adriatik

pre 12 godina

Bulgar of Ohrid

you really are talking garabge. southern albania to greece? why? i tell you what, while we're at it, we'll give southern macedonia to greece too and western macedonia to albania. perhaps Ulcin will be given to Albania too. you want a land swap between kosovo and serbia, what on earth does this have to do with greece? nothing. seriously, you have let your albanian paranoia get the better of you, let it go

Bulgar of Ohrid

pre 12 godina

Poor parallel. I have said long ago that northern Kosovo should be given up. By the same token however, the majority of Presheva Albanians do not want to live under Serbian rule, so its kinda a simple solution.

I have no idea about Albanian birth rates in Macedonia, nor do I care. As long as they're treated as equal citizens its of no concern of mine.

p.s. do not make assumptions about me personally. I do not pray to Allah, Jesus, Moses, Buddha or Vishnu. I'm an atheist
(adriatik, 30 November 2011 12:08)

Sorry you guys are greedy.. The Albanians if they want can end the conflict with the Serb.. what if the north was swapped for Presevo? there are still Serbs living south of the Ibar.. but there would be no Serbs living in Serbia.. and what about the Serbs cleansed from Kosovo..? Ethnic cleansing has been conducted in Kosovo.. this is why Albanians are 95% hence not really a fair deal.. or maybe southern Albania can go to Greece? and pogradec/mala prespa to Macedonia?

adriatik

pre 12 godina

Poor parallel. I have said long ago that northern Kosovo should be given up. By the same token however, the majority of Presheva Albanians do not want to live under Serbian rule, so its kinda a simple solution.

I have no idea about Albanian birth rates in Macedonia, nor do I care. As long as they're treated as equal citizens its of no concern of mine.

p.s. do not make assumptions about me personally. I do not pray to Allah, Jesus, Moses, Buddha or Vishnu. I'm an atheist

adriatik

pre 12 godina

Bulgar of Ohrid

you really are talking garbage. p.s. do ask the christian kosovar albanians whether they want to be part of serbia again. its funny how you seem to think, there are no albanian christians according to you. fine, there is no such thing as a Bulgar from Ohrid either

Canadian Serb

Yes...it is not the Albanians who need to reevaluate their attitudes

Bulgar Of Ohrid

pre 12 godina

1) NATO and more importantly 2) 90% of the people in Kosovo do not want to be part of Serbia. You first of all need to convince them that they'd be better off under your rule to carry out a successful armed takeover. Otherwise, its NEVER and I do repeat NEVER going to happen. Better to move on with your lives then continue with some sort of pipe dream about 'owning' the land your forefathers (which is a story based on myth anyway).
(adriatik, 29 November 2011 15:55)


90% of Kosovo is Albanian and dont want to live in Serbia, 95% of northern Kosovo, gracanica and Strpce is Serbian and they dont want to live under Albanians.. Furthermore these Serbs of Kosovo were born in Serbia as for the mojority of Albanians in Kosovo..

Hence answer me, how do you expect these Serbs who were born and raised in Serbia to accept Albanian rule..

Imagine having lived most of your life in Albania and then you woke up and found that you are living in Serbia??

THATS WHAT I CALL OCCUPATION!

Never say never, Bulgarians run the show in Macedonia, and Albaians population is dwindling due to migration and a lower birth rate these days.. the Islamic Albaians would be lucky to make up 17%.. you can believe in ur own fairy tales, but remember Pristina had 600 000 Albanians but really has 190 000... have you put the puzzle together now>>?

The moral of the story, if the Albanians can live under Slavic Christian rule in Macedonia.. never ever say never regarding Kosovo

Remember operation Mountain Storm in Albanian heart land of North Western Macedonia? 7 fatalities and 30 arrested.. you get the picture as to who runs the show.. The macos may be flexible in regards Albanian fascism.. but at the end of the day when push comes to shove.... the top dog will rule.. sure you guys can beat ur chests and keep on murdering policemen whilst shopping for food.. but thats about as far as you will get...

You better pray to allah that NATO doesnt get tired of your lot..

Bulgar of Ohrid

pre 12 godina

The Christian Albanians of Kosovo support independence too.
(adriatik, 29 November 2011 15:55)

Ok Champ..

99.9% of Albanians in Kosovo and North Western macedonia are islamic..

North Western macedonia looks like afganistan with its mosques and minarets.. :)

It is a battle between the above, furthermore Albanias pupulation is 35$ christian, and believe me 95% arent Albanian

Serbs have no problems living in catholic Croatia or Orthodox Macedonia, But islam Bosnia

Canadian ALBO

pre 12 godina

also have a plan. You enter into Kosovo and you send back to albania all albanians who came in illegally.
(Canadian Serb, 29 November 2011 16:00)
...DUDE.... get into the bus to the library and check about the Albanian History...this is Canada you know you can find the truth anywhere is not a Serbia when people get brain washed filled with HATE..GREETING'S FROM TORONTO

Alija

pre 12 godina

Canadian Serb, Milosevic tried that in 199 and see what happened. Albanians came back and there are only a handful of Serbs in Kosovo now.

mee

pre 12 godina

i think that serbs need to rise their heads up and see what happen in 1999 if they trying to keep north of kosovo best of luck but i think this will not happen kosovo is one nation and will be forever so serbs need to go beck to where they came from carpats and leave people along because they are putin ther noses everywere so you know what happen if you mess with everybody enemy is behaind your beck.

New Zealander

pre 12 godina

There are two problems with Serbia's alleged military option. 1) NATO and more importantly 2) 90% of the people in Kosovo do not want to be part of Serbia. You first of all need to convince them that they'd be better off under your rule to carry out a successful armed takeover. Otherwise, its NEVER and I do repeat NEVER going to happen. Better to move on with your lives then continue with some sort of pipe dream about 'owning' the land your forefathers (which is a story based on myth anyway).
(adriatik, 29 November 2011 15:55)

At the end of World War two it took the Germans a while to be able to contemplate what they'd become once they'd been occupied by the allies, but after a long period of de-nazification, the German people accepted that what they'd been taught was lies and hate, apologised, and moved on. The same process can be used for the Kosovo Albanians.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

Fyromian, if that's the case how do you explain Albanians of different regilious beliefs who live peacefully with each other?
(metrod, 29 November 2011 16:06)

If that's the case how you explain nice murals in Albanian-owned restaurant near Merdare picturing heroic blood feud and one Albanian heroically killing the other? I was there, looked at the murals and scratched my head - really this is what you want to see during the meal?

The name of the restaurant is Te Qershijat, by the way. Go there and enjoy what you see.

metrod

pre 12 godina

"NOthing has changed in the Balkans in the last 100 years.. the age old battle between Christianity and Islam will go on..
Bulgar of Ohrid"

Fyromian, if that's the case how do you explain Albanians of different regilious beliefs who live peacefully with each other?

Denis

pre 12 godina

NOthing has changed in the Balkans in the last 100 years.. the age old battle between Christianity and Islam will go on..
(Bulgar of Ohrid, 29 November 2011 12:33)

The problem is truy with the byzantine mentality that has kept its medival presence in the Balkans especially in the orthodox areas. Albanians have never fought in the name of islam, considered islam a part of their identity or as part of their struggle for freedom. Exactly the opposite has happened with Orthodox populations of Balkans, like urself. You need Orthodoxism to define you and everything else revolves around this notion. But don't worry you can have your orthodoxism, I don't give a crap.

Further as an Albanian from a non-practicing muslim family I would personally pay you to come and raise to the ground all mosques in the Albanian lands, and along with them everything islamic.

Now give it a wild guess, will this bring peace?

nikshala

pre 12 godina

"NOthing has changed in the Balkans in the last 100 years.. the age old battle between Christianity and Islam will go on..
(Bulgar of Ohrid, 29 November 2011 12:33) "

You either dont understand the conflicts in the Balkans or you are intentionally trying to mislead / spread propaganda. I can say with certainty that the conflict with serbs has nothing to do with religion from the albanian side at least. For all we care they could be muslim, jewish, catholics, buddist, etc...

All the balkan conflicts were about land -althoug the influence of Serbian Church in state politics cannot be denied.

adriatik

pre 12 godina

There are two problems with Serbia's alleged military option. 1) NATO and more importantly 2) 90% of the people in Kosovo do not want to be part of Serbia. You first of all need to convince them that they'd be better off under your rule to carry out a successful armed takeover. Otherwise, its NEVER and I do repeat NEVER going to happen. Better to move on with your lives then continue with some sort of pipe dream about 'owning' the land your forefathers (which is a story based on myth anyway).

"NOthing has changed in the Balkans in the last 100 years.. the age old battle between Christianity and Islam will go on.."

The Christian Albanians of Kosovo support independence too.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

I think the ALbanians are trying to bite off more than they can chew..

NOthing has changed in the Balkans in the last 100 years.. the age old battle between Christianity and Islam will go on..
(Bulgar of Ohrid, 29 November 2011 12:33)

I think, that quite a lot of Albanians or Serbs want to be left in peace by the politics and miss the time when there was no "administrative line".

The break-up of YU did cost them 400 billion Euro, Yugoslavs were than probably the richest people on planet Earth because no other break-up was that expensive.

And I am pretty much aware and other good number of Albanians, well-represented on B92 are thinking not only about Makedonija, Kosovo, Presevo but probably biting of pieces of Tokyo or Buenos Aires first, only than Moon, Jupiter and outer Solar System.

The proof of that is that no one was / is even remotely interested in anything beneficial, peaceful and entertaining regarding Kosovo. It's all KLA wet dreams - usually out of Sydeney, Brussels (see Ben!) or New York. That's pretty cheap. Except Ferik aka "Balkan Update" who is as far as I remember in Chicago area. Quite far from Balkans but still closer than San Francisco.

passing by

pre 12 godina

Army chief says VS "has plan for Kosovo".
I rather think the only plan that VS has it to help troctoriada arrives safe and sound back to new permanent place in middle Serbia to resettle (Siberia may also be an option)

If Oluja start VS dear not to fire a single bullet unless want to be bombed like in 1999.

The frail and disintegrated Serbia the more peaceful Balkans.

trizo

pre 12 godina

When Dacic threatened war, doubters said it was a pre-election ploy. When he seemingly retracted the threats, same doubters said he flip flopped. Now the army is talking about conflict, meaning it is not an election ploy but actual state policy and part of a larger diplomacy.

Bulgar of Ohrid

pre 12 godina

The Spring of 2012 will be a very hot one.. I like what I see.. slowly but surely things are moving on the ground..

The Serbs will get there hands on the north, there is absolutely no doubt about that.. this will piss off the Albanian hot heads, eventually they will make a move for Macedonia/Presevo... and the Albanians will end up fighting on two fronts in Serbia and Macedonia...

I think the ALbanians are trying to bite off more than they can chew..

NOthing has changed in the Balkans in the last 100 years.. the age old battle between Christianity and Islam will go on..

ben

pre 12 godina

Upsss and what will say now Thaci or as Kosovar ignorants spell it Thaqi????

These genious togather with the frinds of Kosova agreed in 2,300 lightly armed firemans. Now what will he say??

Dacic and this dude here back theri words with over 400 upgraded tanks and many more of older version. How will Thaqi and other genius in Kosova answer to that: whith rusted Kalashnikovs like in the 99???

If we have frinds than we need asap to discuss seriously with them our defence capacities. 2,300 lightly armed man is ridiculous and above all IRRESPONSABLE.

We should have no illusions: if Serbia can they would run their tanks on Kosova in matter of days. Serbia spends over 1 bn dollars per year on her military. For comparison Albania spends less than 300million USD major part for salaries.

What is Tahqi's baby-sitter is on leave or has sicky???

Bulgar of Ohrid

pre 12 godina

The Spring of 2012 will be a very hot one.. I like what I see.. slowly but surely things are moving on the ground..

The Serbs will get there hands on the north, there is absolutely no doubt about that.. this will piss off the Albanian hot heads, eventually they will make a move for Macedonia/Presevo... and the Albanians will end up fighting on two fronts in Serbia and Macedonia...

I think the ALbanians are trying to bite off more than they can chew..

NOthing has changed in the Balkans in the last 100 years.. the age old battle between Christianity and Islam will go on..

passing by

pre 12 godina

Army chief says VS "has plan for Kosovo".
I rather think the only plan that VS has it to help troctoriada arrives safe and sound back to new permanent place in middle Serbia to resettle (Siberia may also be an option)

If Oluja start VS dear not to fire a single bullet unless want to be bombed like in 1999.

The frail and disintegrated Serbia the more peaceful Balkans.

trizo

pre 12 godina

When Dacic threatened war, doubters said it was a pre-election ploy. When he seemingly retracted the threats, same doubters said he flip flopped. Now the army is talking about conflict, meaning it is not an election ploy but actual state policy and part of a larger diplomacy.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

I think the ALbanians are trying to bite off more than they can chew..

NOthing has changed in the Balkans in the last 100 years.. the age old battle between Christianity and Islam will go on..
(Bulgar of Ohrid, 29 November 2011 12:33)

I think, that quite a lot of Albanians or Serbs want to be left in peace by the politics and miss the time when there was no "administrative line".

The break-up of YU did cost them 400 billion Euro, Yugoslavs were than probably the richest people on planet Earth because no other break-up was that expensive.

And I am pretty much aware and other good number of Albanians, well-represented on B92 are thinking not only about Makedonija, Kosovo, Presevo but probably biting of pieces of Tokyo or Buenos Aires first, only than Moon, Jupiter and outer Solar System.

The proof of that is that no one was / is even remotely interested in anything beneficial, peaceful and entertaining regarding Kosovo. It's all KLA wet dreams - usually out of Sydeney, Brussels (see Ben!) or New York. That's pretty cheap. Except Ferik aka "Balkan Update" who is as far as I remember in Chicago area. Quite far from Balkans but still closer than San Francisco.

adriatik

pre 12 godina

There are two problems with Serbia's alleged military option. 1) NATO and more importantly 2) 90% of the people in Kosovo do not want to be part of Serbia. You first of all need to convince them that they'd be better off under your rule to carry out a successful armed takeover. Otherwise, its NEVER and I do repeat NEVER going to happen. Better to move on with your lives then continue with some sort of pipe dream about 'owning' the land your forefathers (which is a story based on myth anyway).

"NOthing has changed in the Balkans in the last 100 years.. the age old battle between Christianity and Islam will go on.."

The Christian Albanians of Kosovo support independence too.

nikshala

pre 12 godina

"NOthing has changed in the Balkans in the last 100 years.. the age old battle between Christianity and Islam will go on..
(Bulgar of Ohrid, 29 November 2011 12:33) "

You either dont understand the conflicts in the Balkans or you are intentionally trying to mislead / spread propaganda. I can say with certainty that the conflict with serbs has nothing to do with religion from the albanian side at least. For all we care they could be muslim, jewish, catholics, buddist, etc...

All the balkan conflicts were about land -althoug the influence of Serbian Church in state politics cannot be denied.

metrod

pre 12 godina

"NOthing has changed in the Balkans in the last 100 years.. the age old battle between Christianity and Islam will go on..
Bulgar of Ohrid"

Fyromian, if that's the case how do you explain Albanians of different regilious beliefs who live peacefully with each other?

ben

pre 12 godina

Upsss and what will say now Thaci or as Kosovar ignorants spell it Thaqi????

These genious togather with the frinds of Kosova agreed in 2,300 lightly armed firemans. Now what will he say??

Dacic and this dude here back theri words with over 400 upgraded tanks and many more of older version. How will Thaqi and other genius in Kosova answer to that: whith rusted Kalashnikovs like in the 99???

If we have frinds than we need asap to discuss seriously with them our defence capacities. 2,300 lightly armed man is ridiculous and above all IRRESPONSABLE.

We should have no illusions: if Serbia can they would run their tanks on Kosova in matter of days. Serbia spends over 1 bn dollars per year on her military. For comparison Albania spends less than 300million USD major part for salaries.

What is Tahqi's baby-sitter is on leave or has sicky???

Denis

pre 12 godina

NOthing has changed in the Balkans in the last 100 years.. the age old battle between Christianity and Islam will go on..
(Bulgar of Ohrid, 29 November 2011 12:33)

The problem is truy with the byzantine mentality that has kept its medival presence in the Balkans especially in the orthodox areas. Albanians have never fought in the name of islam, considered islam a part of their identity or as part of their struggle for freedom. Exactly the opposite has happened with Orthodox populations of Balkans, like urself. You need Orthodoxism to define you and everything else revolves around this notion. But don't worry you can have your orthodoxism, I don't give a crap.

Further as an Albanian from a non-practicing muslim family I would personally pay you to come and raise to the ground all mosques in the Albanian lands, and along with them everything islamic.

Now give it a wild guess, will this bring peace?

Ataman

pre 12 godina

Fyromian, if that's the case how do you explain Albanians of different regilious beliefs who live peacefully with each other?
(metrod, 29 November 2011 16:06)

If that's the case how you explain nice murals in Albanian-owned restaurant near Merdare picturing heroic blood feud and one Albanian heroically killing the other? I was there, looked at the murals and scratched my head - really this is what you want to see during the meal?

The name of the restaurant is Te Qershijat, by the way. Go there and enjoy what you see.

mee

pre 12 godina

i think that serbs need to rise their heads up and see what happen in 1999 if they trying to keep north of kosovo best of luck but i think this will not happen kosovo is one nation and will be forever so serbs need to go beck to where they came from carpats and leave people along because they are putin ther noses everywere so you know what happen if you mess with everybody enemy is behaind your beck.

New Zealander

pre 12 godina

There are two problems with Serbia's alleged military option. 1) NATO and more importantly 2) 90% of the people in Kosovo do not want to be part of Serbia. You first of all need to convince them that they'd be better off under your rule to carry out a successful armed takeover. Otherwise, its NEVER and I do repeat NEVER going to happen. Better to move on with your lives then continue with some sort of pipe dream about 'owning' the land your forefathers (which is a story based on myth anyway).
(adriatik, 29 November 2011 15:55)

At the end of World War two it took the Germans a while to be able to contemplate what they'd become once they'd been occupied by the allies, but after a long period of de-nazification, the German people accepted that what they'd been taught was lies and hate, apologised, and moved on. The same process can be used for the Kosovo Albanians.

Alija

pre 12 godina

Canadian Serb, Milosevic tried that in 199 and see what happened. Albanians came back and there are only a handful of Serbs in Kosovo now.

Bulgar of Ohrid

pre 12 godina

The Christian Albanians of Kosovo support independence too.
(adriatik, 29 November 2011 15:55)

Ok Champ..

99.9% of Albanians in Kosovo and North Western macedonia are islamic..

North Western macedonia looks like afganistan with its mosques and minarets.. :)

It is a battle between the above, furthermore Albanias pupulation is 35$ christian, and believe me 95% arent Albanian

Serbs have no problems living in catholic Croatia or Orthodox Macedonia, But islam Bosnia

Bulgar Of Ohrid

pre 12 godina

1) NATO and more importantly 2) 90% of the people in Kosovo do not want to be part of Serbia. You first of all need to convince them that they'd be better off under your rule to carry out a successful armed takeover. Otherwise, its NEVER and I do repeat NEVER going to happen. Better to move on with your lives then continue with some sort of pipe dream about 'owning' the land your forefathers (which is a story based on myth anyway).
(adriatik, 29 November 2011 15:55)


90% of Kosovo is Albanian and dont want to live in Serbia, 95% of northern Kosovo, gracanica and Strpce is Serbian and they dont want to live under Albanians.. Furthermore these Serbs of Kosovo were born in Serbia as for the mojority of Albanians in Kosovo..

Hence answer me, how do you expect these Serbs who were born and raised in Serbia to accept Albanian rule..

Imagine having lived most of your life in Albania and then you woke up and found that you are living in Serbia??

THATS WHAT I CALL OCCUPATION!

Never say never, Bulgarians run the show in Macedonia, and Albaians population is dwindling due to migration and a lower birth rate these days.. the Islamic Albaians would be lucky to make up 17%.. you can believe in ur own fairy tales, but remember Pristina had 600 000 Albanians but really has 190 000... have you put the puzzle together now>>?

The moral of the story, if the Albanians can live under Slavic Christian rule in Macedonia.. never ever say never regarding Kosovo

Remember operation Mountain Storm in Albanian heart land of North Western Macedonia? 7 fatalities and 30 arrested.. you get the picture as to who runs the show.. The macos may be flexible in regards Albanian fascism.. but at the end of the day when push comes to shove.... the top dog will rule.. sure you guys can beat ur chests and keep on murdering policemen whilst shopping for food.. but thats about as far as you will get...

You better pray to allah that NATO doesnt get tired of your lot..

adriatik

pre 12 godina

Poor parallel. I have said long ago that northern Kosovo should be given up. By the same token however, the majority of Presheva Albanians do not want to live under Serbian rule, so its kinda a simple solution.

I have no idea about Albanian birth rates in Macedonia, nor do I care. As long as they're treated as equal citizens its of no concern of mine.

p.s. do not make assumptions about me personally. I do not pray to Allah, Jesus, Moses, Buddha or Vishnu. I'm an atheist

Canadian ALBO

pre 12 godina

also have a plan. You enter into Kosovo and you send back to albania all albanians who came in illegally.
(Canadian Serb, 29 November 2011 16:00)
...DUDE.... get into the bus to the library and check about the Albanian History...this is Canada you know you can find the truth anywhere is not a Serbia when people get brain washed filled with HATE..GREETING'S FROM TORONTO

Bulgar of Ohrid

pre 12 godina

Poor parallel. I have said long ago that northern Kosovo should be given up. By the same token however, the majority of Presheva Albanians do not want to live under Serbian rule, so its kinda a simple solution.

I have no idea about Albanian birth rates in Macedonia, nor do I care. As long as they're treated as equal citizens its of no concern of mine.

p.s. do not make assumptions about me personally. I do not pray to Allah, Jesus, Moses, Buddha or Vishnu. I'm an atheist
(adriatik, 30 November 2011 12:08)

Sorry you guys are greedy.. The Albanians if they want can end the conflict with the Serb.. what if the north was swapped for Presevo? there are still Serbs living south of the Ibar.. but there would be no Serbs living in Serbia.. and what about the Serbs cleansed from Kosovo..? Ethnic cleansing has been conducted in Kosovo.. this is why Albanians are 95% hence not really a fair deal.. or maybe southern Albania can go to Greece? and pogradec/mala prespa to Macedonia?

adriatik

pre 12 godina

Bulgar of Ohrid

you really are talking garabge. southern albania to greece? why? i tell you what, while we're at it, we'll give southern macedonia to greece too and western macedonia to albania. perhaps Ulcin will be given to Albania too. you want a land swap between kosovo and serbia, what on earth does this have to do with greece? nothing. seriously, you have let your albanian paranoia get the better of you, let it go

adriatik

pre 12 godina

Bulgar of Ohrid

you really are talking garbage. p.s. do ask the christian kosovar albanians whether they want to be part of serbia again. its funny how you seem to think, there are no albanian christians according to you. fine, there is no such thing as a Bulgar from Ohrid either

Canadian Serb

Yes...it is not the Albanians who need to reevaluate their attitudes

Canadian ALBO

pre 12 godina

You better pray to allah that NATO doesnt get tired of your lot..
(Bulgar Of Ohrid, 30 November 2011 11:21) ...DUDE R you commenting about arabs or albanians because if you talking about albanians we call the GOD because is one GOD and every language his name is different in albanian his name is ZOT.... as in serbian BOG and as in albanian a call him ZOT on english GOD or slavic BOG

Bulgar Of Ohrid

pre 12 godina

you really are talking garabge. southern albania to greece? why? i tell you what, while we're at it, we'll give southern macedonia to greece too and western macedonia to albania. perhaps Ulcin will be given to Albania too. you want a land swap between kosovo and serbia, what on earth does this have to do with greece? nothing. seriously, you have let your albanian paranoia get the better of you, let it go
(adriatik, 30 November 2011 14:13)

Mate Greece can have it.. no dramas, no paranoia here buddy.. doesnt bother me.. but persons right to self determination is what i matter about..

adriatik

pre 12 godina

what on earth does the dispute between kosovo and serbia have to do with greece? seriously, how on earth are the two even connected? was there a war between greece & albania in the last 10 years that i missed?

Pls say it ain't so!!!

pre 12 godina

what on earth does the dispute between kosovo and serbia have to do with greece? seriously, how on earth are the two even connected? was there a war between greece & albania in the last 10 years that i missed?
(adriatik, 1 December 2011 10:41)

@Adriatik

Adriatik, pls do yourself a favor and save some keystrokes by replying to the 'i have no clue who I am, or what I am" dude, with a “Bulgar from Ohrid” handle.

He claims that he’s Bulgarian I can’t dispute that; he claims that he’s from Ohrid, which is/was an Albanian land, and he talks rubbish by bringing up Greece into the game. A country that is in total bankruptcy and does not even recognize his so called country, Macedonia. LOL

Lord help him, he’s dazed and confused!!! Get your identity right ‘Bulgar’ and then try to make a bit of sense, as you’re confusing even your own kind. Whatever that is!!!

@ the confused Bulgar of Ohrid

Sorry you guys are greedy.. The Albanians if they want can end the conflict with the Serb.. what if the north was swapped for Presevo? there are still Serbs living south of the Ibar.. but there would be no Serbs living in Serbia.. and what about the Serbs cleansed from Kosovo..? Ethnic cleansing has been conducted in Kosovo.. this is why Albanians are 95% hence not really a fair deal.. or maybe southern Albania can go to Greece? and pogradec/mala prespa to Macedonia?
(Bulgar of Ohrid, 30 November 2011 13:44)

Yo ‘Mr. I have no identity and language of my own’, that will be you ‘Bulgar”; it’s not about being greedy, we’re just claiming our own.

Albanians conducted cleansing??? LMAO, you must’ve either been born yesterday, or your two brain cells are giving up on you; I think it’s the later.

Your confused piece of land that you call “Macedonia”, tried the same thing, but no cigar. Us, Albanians got the best of it, and I do understand you being angry and talking smack, but do and try to be real just for a second.

You bring up religion, Greece and other factors into this discussion, and I personally do understand the religion part of it. I have never been in Ohrid (Oher it’s the real name, FYI), but I do know that folks down there are quite religious. But there’s always a reason why one turns into religion, and by my reasoning, are comfort and desperation, which you folk have brought on (the desperation part of it).

I personally am a dedicated atheist (no pun intended to the religious folk), but do yourself a favor and stop throwing from the right field, as you’re making no sense whatsoever; no news there!!!!

We had enough of your BS and are totally committed to stop it, by all means. We sure know what we’re doing and we are way ahead of the game.

But do keep mumbling and spewing hatred as you always do (what a gift!), but you and your kind will never be able to win until you cleanse yourself of all the hatred you have build up in your system.

Ignorance is bliss!!!

Pls say it ain't so!!!

pre 12 godina

At the end of World War two it took the Germans a while to be able to contemplate what they'd become once they'd been occupied by the allies, but after a long period of de-nazification, the German people accepted that what they'd been taught was lies and hate, apologised, and moved on. The same process can be used for the Kosovo Albanians.
(New Zealander, 29 November 2011 20:23)

@New Zealender
As much as l like the country that you live in NZ, had a blast down there in March, you need to get your personal act together. I’m sure you know you’re talking rubbish, as usual, but just read your own wording mate!!

You folk are not worth replying to…….

I do plan to go down to NZ this coming March and snatch me some Marlin….ahh, what a beautiful thing.

Bulgar of Ohrid

pre 12 godina

The Spring of 2012 will be a very hot one.. I like what I see.. slowly but surely things are moving on the ground..

The Serbs will get there hands on the north, there is absolutely no doubt about that.. this will piss off the Albanian hot heads, eventually they will make a move for Macedonia/Presevo... and the Albanians will end up fighting on two fronts in Serbia and Macedonia...

I think the ALbanians are trying to bite off more than they can chew..

NOthing has changed in the Balkans in the last 100 years.. the age old battle between Christianity and Islam will go on..

passing by

pre 12 godina

Army chief says VS "has plan for Kosovo".
I rather think the only plan that VS has it to help troctoriada arrives safe and sound back to new permanent place in middle Serbia to resettle (Siberia may also be an option)

If Oluja start VS dear not to fire a single bullet unless want to be bombed like in 1999.

The frail and disintegrated Serbia the more peaceful Balkans.

ben

pre 12 godina

Upsss and what will say now Thaci or as Kosovar ignorants spell it Thaqi????

These genious togather with the frinds of Kosova agreed in 2,300 lightly armed firemans. Now what will he say??

Dacic and this dude here back theri words with over 400 upgraded tanks and many more of older version. How will Thaqi and other genius in Kosova answer to that: whith rusted Kalashnikovs like in the 99???

If we have frinds than we need asap to discuss seriously with them our defence capacities. 2,300 lightly armed man is ridiculous and above all IRRESPONSABLE.

We should have no illusions: if Serbia can they would run their tanks on Kosova in matter of days. Serbia spends over 1 bn dollars per year on her military. For comparison Albania spends less than 300million USD major part for salaries.

What is Tahqi's baby-sitter is on leave or has sicky???

New Zealander

pre 12 godina

There are two problems with Serbia's alleged military option. 1) NATO and more importantly 2) 90% of the people in Kosovo do not want to be part of Serbia. You first of all need to convince them that they'd be better off under your rule to carry out a successful armed takeover. Otherwise, its NEVER and I do repeat NEVER going to happen. Better to move on with your lives then continue with some sort of pipe dream about 'owning' the land your forefathers (which is a story based on myth anyway).
(adriatik, 29 November 2011 15:55)

At the end of World War two it took the Germans a while to be able to contemplate what they'd become once they'd been occupied by the allies, but after a long period of de-nazification, the German people accepted that what they'd been taught was lies and hate, apologised, and moved on. The same process can be used for the Kosovo Albanians.

Bulgar Of Ohrid

pre 12 godina

1) NATO and more importantly 2) 90% of the people in Kosovo do not want to be part of Serbia. You first of all need to convince them that they'd be better off under your rule to carry out a successful armed takeover. Otherwise, its NEVER and I do repeat NEVER going to happen. Better to move on with your lives then continue with some sort of pipe dream about 'owning' the land your forefathers (which is a story based on myth anyway).
(adriatik, 29 November 2011 15:55)


90% of Kosovo is Albanian and dont want to live in Serbia, 95% of northern Kosovo, gracanica and Strpce is Serbian and they dont want to live under Albanians.. Furthermore these Serbs of Kosovo were born in Serbia as for the mojority of Albanians in Kosovo..

Hence answer me, how do you expect these Serbs who were born and raised in Serbia to accept Albanian rule..

Imagine having lived most of your life in Albania and then you woke up and found that you are living in Serbia??

THATS WHAT I CALL OCCUPATION!

Never say never, Bulgarians run the show in Macedonia, and Albaians population is dwindling due to migration and a lower birth rate these days.. the Islamic Albaians would be lucky to make up 17%.. you can believe in ur own fairy tales, but remember Pristina had 600 000 Albanians but really has 190 000... have you put the puzzle together now>>?

The moral of the story, if the Albanians can live under Slavic Christian rule in Macedonia.. never ever say never regarding Kosovo

Remember operation Mountain Storm in Albanian heart land of North Western Macedonia? 7 fatalities and 30 arrested.. you get the picture as to who runs the show.. The macos may be flexible in regards Albanian fascism.. but at the end of the day when push comes to shove.... the top dog will rule.. sure you guys can beat ur chests and keep on murdering policemen whilst shopping for food.. but thats about as far as you will get...

You better pray to allah that NATO doesnt get tired of your lot..

metrod

pre 12 godina

"NOthing has changed in the Balkans in the last 100 years.. the age old battle between Christianity and Islam will go on..
Bulgar of Ohrid"

Fyromian, if that's the case how do you explain Albanians of different regilious beliefs who live peacefully with each other?

Ataman

pre 12 godina

I think the ALbanians are trying to bite off more than they can chew..

NOthing has changed in the Balkans in the last 100 years.. the age old battle between Christianity and Islam will go on..
(Bulgar of Ohrid, 29 November 2011 12:33)

I think, that quite a lot of Albanians or Serbs want to be left in peace by the politics and miss the time when there was no "administrative line".

The break-up of YU did cost them 400 billion Euro, Yugoslavs were than probably the richest people on planet Earth because no other break-up was that expensive.

And I am pretty much aware and other good number of Albanians, well-represented on B92 are thinking not only about Makedonija, Kosovo, Presevo but probably biting of pieces of Tokyo or Buenos Aires first, only than Moon, Jupiter and outer Solar System.

The proof of that is that no one was / is even remotely interested in anything beneficial, peaceful and entertaining regarding Kosovo. It's all KLA wet dreams - usually out of Sydeney, Brussels (see Ben!) or New York. That's pretty cheap. Except Ferik aka "Balkan Update" who is as far as I remember in Chicago area. Quite far from Balkans but still closer than San Francisco.

trizo

pre 12 godina

When Dacic threatened war, doubters said it was a pre-election ploy. When he seemingly retracted the threats, same doubters said he flip flopped. Now the army is talking about conflict, meaning it is not an election ploy but actual state policy and part of a larger diplomacy.

Bulgar of Ohrid

pre 12 godina

Poor parallel. I have said long ago that northern Kosovo should be given up. By the same token however, the majority of Presheva Albanians do not want to live under Serbian rule, so its kinda a simple solution.

I have no idea about Albanian birth rates in Macedonia, nor do I care. As long as they're treated as equal citizens its of no concern of mine.

p.s. do not make assumptions about me personally. I do not pray to Allah, Jesus, Moses, Buddha or Vishnu. I'm an atheist
(adriatik, 30 November 2011 12:08)

Sorry you guys are greedy.. The Albanians if they want can end the conflict with the Serb.. what if the north was swapped for Presevo? there are still Serbs living south of the Ibar.. but there would be no Serbs living in Serbia.. and what about the Serbs cleansed from Kosovo..? Ethnic cleansing has been conducted in Kosovo.. this is why Albanians are 95% hence not really a fair deal.. or maybe southern Albania can go to Greece? and pogradec/mala prespa to Macedonia?

adriatik

pre 12 godina

There are two problems with Serbia's alleged military option. 1) NATO and more importantly 2) 90% of the people in Kosovo do not want to be part of Serbia. You first of all need to convince them that they'd be better off under your rule to carry out a successful armed takeover. Otherwise, its NEVER and I do repeat NEVER going to happen. Better to move on with your lives then continue with some sort of pipe dream about 'owning' the land your forefathers (which is a story based on myth anyway).

"NOthing has changed in the Balkans in the last 100 years.. the age old battle between Christianity and Islam will go on.."

The Christian Albanians of Kosovo support independence too.

nikshala

pre 12 godina

"NOthing has changed in the Balkans in the last 100 years.. the age old battle between Christianity and Islam will go on..
(Bulgar of Ohrid, 29 November 2011 12:33) "

You either dont understand the conflicts in the Balkans or you are intentionally trying to mislead / spread propaganda. I can say with certainty that the conflict with serbs has nothing to do with religion from the albanian side at least. For all we care they could be muslim, jewish, catholics, buddist, etc...

All the balkan conflicts were about land -althoug the influence of Serbian Church in state politics cannot be denied.

Denis

pre 12 godina

NOthing has changed in the Balkans in the last 100 years.. the age old battle between Christianity and Islam will go on..
(Bulgar of Ohrid, 29 November 2011 12:33)

The problem is truy with the byzantine mentality that has kept its medival presence in the Balkans especially in the orthodox areas. Albanians have never fought in the name of islam, considered islam a part of their identity or as part of their struggle for freedom. Exactly the opposite has happened with Orthodox populations of Balkans, like urself. You need Orthodoxism to define you and everything else revolves around this notion. But don't worry you can have your orthodoxism, I don't give a crap.

Further as an Albanian from a non-practicing muslim family I would personally pay you to come and raise to the ground all mosques in the Albanian lands, and along with them everything islamic.

Now give it a wild guess, will this bring peace?

mee

pre 12 godina

i think that serbs need to rise their heads up and see what happen in 1999 if they trying to keep north of kosovo best of luck but i think this will not happen kosovo is one nation and will be forever so serbs need to go beck to where they came from carpats and leave people along because they are putin ther noses everywere so you know what happen if you mess with everybody enemy is behaind your beck.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

Fyromian, if that's the case how do you explain Albanians of different regilious beliefs who live peacefully with each other?
(metrod, 29 November 2011 16:06)

If that's the case how you explain nice murals in Albanian-owned restaurant near Merdare picturing heroic blood feud and one Albanian heroically killing the other? I was there, looked at the murals and scratched my head - really this is what you want to see during the meal?

The name of the restaurant is Te Qershijat, by the way. Go there and enjoy what you see.

Bulgar of Ohrid

pre 12 godina

The Christian Albanians of Kosovo support independence too.
(adriatik, 29 November 2011 15:55)

Ok Champ..

99.9% of Albanians in Kosovo and North Western macedonia are islamic..

North Western macedonia looks like afganistan with its mosques and minarets.. :)

It is a battle between the above, furthermore Albanias pupulation is 35$ christian, and believe me 95% arent Albanian

Serbs have no problems living in catholic Croatia or Orthodox Macedonia, But islam Bosnia

adriatik

pre 12 godina

Bulgar of Ohrid

you really are talking garbage. p.s. do ask the christian kosovar albanians whether they want to be part of serbia again. its funny how you seem to think, there are no albanian christians according to you. fine, there is no such thing as a Bulgar from Ohrid either

Canadian Serb

Yes...it is not the Albanians who need to reevaluate their attitudes

adriatik

pre 12 godina

Bulgar of Ohrid

you really are talking garabge. southern albania to greece? why? i tell you what, while we're at it, we'll give southern macedonia to greece too and western macedonia to albania. perhaps Ulcin will be given to Albania too. you want a land swap between kosovo and serbia, what on earth does this have to do with greece? nothing. seriously, you have let your albanian paranoia get the better of you, let it go

Bulgar Of Ohrid

pre 12 godina

you really are talking garabge. southern albania to greece? why? i tell you what, while we're at it, we'll give southern macedonia to greece too and western macedonia to albania. perhaps Ulcin will be given to Albania too. you want a land swap between kosovo and serbia, what on earth does this have to do with greece? nothing. seriously, you have let your albanian paranoia get the better of you, let it go
(adriatik, 30 November 2011 14:13)

Mate Greece can have it.. no dramas, no paranoia here buddy.. doesnt bother me.. but persons right to self determination is what i matter about..

Canadian ALBO

pre 12 godina

also have a plan. You enter into Kosovo and you send back to albania all albanians who came in illegally.
(Canadian Serb, 29 November 2011 16:00)
...DUDE.... get into the bus to the library and check about the Albanian History...this is Canada you know you can find the truth anywhere is not a Serbia when people get brain washed filled with HATE..GREETING'S FROM TORONTO

adriatik

pre 12 godina

Poor parallel. I have said long ago that northern Kosovo should be given up. By the same token however, the majority of Presheva Albanians do not want to live under Serbian rule, so its kinda a simple solution.

I have no idea about Albanian birth rates in Macedonia, nor do I care. As long as they're treated as equal citizens its of no concern of mine.

p.s. do not make assumptions about me personally. I do not pray to Allah, Jesus, Moses, Buddha or Vishnu. I'm an atheist

Alija

pre 12 godina

Canadian Serb, Milosevic tried that in 199 and see what happened. Albanians came back and there are only a handful of Serbs in Kosovo now.

Canadian ALBO

pre 12 godina

You better pray to allah that NATO doesnt get tired of your lot..
(Bulgar Of Ohrid, 30 November 2011 11:21) ...DUDE R you commenting about arabs or albanians because if you talking about albanians we call the GOD because is one GOD and every language his name is different in albanian his name is ZOT.... as in serbian BOG and as in albanian a call him ZOT on english GOD or slavic BOG

adriatik

pre 12 godina

what on earth does the dispute between kosovo and serbia have to do with greece? seriously, how on earth are the two even connected? was there a war between greece & albania in the last 10 years that i missed?

Pls say it ain't so!!!

pre 12 godina

what on earth does the dispute between kosovo and serbia have to do with greece? seriously, how on earth are the two even connected? was there a war between greece & albania in the last 10 years that i missed?
(adriatik, 1 December 2011 10:41)

@Adriatik

Adriatik, pls do yourself a favor and save some keystrokes by replying to the 'i have no clue who I am, or what I am" dude, with a “Bulgar from Ohrid” handle.

He claims that he’s Bulgarian I can’t dispute that; he claims that he’s from Ohrid, which is/was an Albanian land, and he talks rubbish by bringing up Greece into the game. A country that is in total bankruptcy and does not even recognize his so called country, Macedonia. LOL

Lord help him, he’s dazed and confused!!! Get your identity right ‘Bulgar’ and then try to make a bit of sense, as you’re confusing even your own kind. Whatever that is!!!

@ the confused Bulgar of Ohrid

Sorry you guys are greedy.. The Albanians if they want can end the conflict with the Serb.. what if the north was swapped for Presevo? there are still Serbs living south of the Ibar.. but there would be no Serbs living in Serbia.. and what about the Serbs cleansed from Kosovo..? Ethnic cleansing has been conducted in Kosovo.. this is why Albanians are 95% hence not really a fair deal.. or maybe southern Albania can go to Greece? and pogradec/mala prespa to Macedonia?
(Bulgar of Ohrid, 30 November 2011 13:44)

Yo ‘Mr. I have no identity and language of my own’, that will be you ‘Bulgar”; it’s not about being greedy, we’re just claiming our own.

Albanians conducted cleansing??? LMAO, you must’ve either been born yesterday, or your two brain cells are giving up on you; I think it’s the later.

Your confused piece of land that you call “Macedonia”, tried the same thing, but no cigar. Us, Albanians got the best of it, and I do understand you being angry and talking smack, but do and try to be real just for a second.

You bring up religion, Greece and other factors into this discussion, and I personally do understand the religion part of it. I have never been in Ohrid (Oher it’s the real name, FYI), but I do know that folks down there are quite religious. But there’s always a reason why one turns into religion, and by my reasoning, are comfort and desperation, which you folk have brought on (the desperation part of it).

I personally am a dedicated atheist (no pun intended to the religious folk), but do yourself a favor and stop throwing from the right field, as you’re making no sense whatsoever; no news there!!!!

We had enough of your BS and are totally committed to stop it, by all means. We sure know what we’re doing and we are way ahead of the game.

But do keep mumbling and spewing hatred as you always do (what a gift!), but you and your kind will never be able to win until you cleanse yourself of all the hatred you have build up in your system.

Ignorance is bliss!!!

Pls say it ain't so!!!

pre 12 godina

At the end of World War two it took the Germans a while to be able to contemplate what they'd become once they'd been occupied by the allies, but after a long period of de-nazification, the German people accepted that what they'd been taught was lies and hate, apologised, and moved on. The same process can be used for the Kosovo Albanians.
(New Zealander, 29 November 2011 20:23)

@New Zealender
As much as l like the country that you live in NZ, had a blast down there in March, you need to get your personal act together. I’m sure you know you’re talking rubbish, as usual, but just read your own wording mate!!

You folk are not worth replying to…….

I do plan to go down to NZ this coming March and snatch me some Marlin….ahh, what a beautiful thing.