Talks about Serbia’s EU candidacy “meaningless”

Well said Kostunica, I agree totally. As long as the EU believes you want to join they'll use it as leverage against you- they have done nothing for Serbs and although I believe they would eventually want you in it is only because they can control you, they won't want a free country in the middle of Europe. All this talk of a three tier Europe is much like the third Reich's ideas of a hierachy of people with the Germans being top and the others as slave workers and second class citizens or third class citizens. The EU was set up as a trading common maket and the people of Europe have been lied to again and again. I hope the EU falls apart, the people aren't happy, let's get back to it being a common market instead of a gravy train for unelected demi-gods.

Kostunica is a very rare person and an even rarer politician. He actually believes in putting his people first.
What he claims is all true. What is the point of these EU talks? They are meaningless expulsion of hot air and diverting from issues that really need attention. The best Serbia should look for is trade agreements.
If there is any Serb deluded enough that believes that Euros will rain on Serbia after joining the EU then I’m very sorry for you. There is no money.
The EU is no longer the same entity it was in 2000 and its survival is on the table. As I heard one economist say today - the dark clouds are gathering over Europe and the US and they will get darker and many will feel the pains of allowing financial systems run wild.
Christmas is coming so enjoy it because all predictions say that 2012 is going to be even tougher than ever.

"You will find out when the Slavs moved to Europe from Russia with love."

EA

I know when the slavs came to the balkans. And I know when albanians came to Kosovo. 100-150 years ago you fled impoverished Albania. To Albania you came from either Turkey or Hell. Since then you continue to escape the "pride of Europe" and settle in Kosovo.
Show me one building, monument or other proof that would indicate that albanians were in Kosovo before the serbs? Just one! It more likely that the ancient illyrian culture didn't leave any traces behind because they were never there in the first place.

Don't blame the mirror for your look. You are running out of arguments and blaming B92. It is not an argument just shouting "...albanians are taking something that is not theirs..." BUT SHOW us the deeds of ownership. If you really want to know the truth they are in Russia. You will find out when the Slavs moved to Europe from Russia with love.
(EA, 27 November 2011 16:34)
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The "deed as you call is is proof in all the ancient buildings and paintings showing Serb history in Kosovo. Now I have been asking Albanians for proof of their ownership of Kosovo for a long time now and so far nothing. Not one piece of evidence in that form or in the form of any old map showing it as part of Albania or indeed something separate from Serbia.
So please do as you ask us to do and prove something instead of making yourself look silly by asking for something you clearly don't have.

"No, Serbia can't do this by itself. It would be better if it could, but it can't. It's too broken. It needs a doctor. It needs outside intervention.

The path to the EU (also sick and broken, but in different ways), gives Serbia what it needs to fix itself.

Whether or not Serbia actually joins the EU is a different story. Personally, I don't know the right answer. In a few years, who knows, the parameters of that decision making might change.

However, now, the road to the EU is the best chance Serbia has for fixing itself.
(Danilo, 27 November 2011 14:22)"


So you would prescribe the EU as a cure for Serbia's maladies even though the EU is "also sick and broken" ..... like getting a quack doctor to cure a patient ..... are you sure you have not lost your marbles? Or, more likely, as that English saying goes -- with friends like you, who needs enemies?

This website is becoming like Kosovo. Overrun by albanians who wants to take what is not thirs.

Kostunica for president!

I completely agree that Serbia should only look to sign a free trade agreement with the EU, since it already has a visa-free travel agreement with EU. Please keep your sovereignty by not adopting the Euro and joining the EU!!!!!!!!

Danilo- the EU is broke. We don't need EU meddling. Just copy what is good. There is no copyright on the EU accession process. Leave the Croats to be German servants, as they always have been.

Koštunica signed a 99 year lease with the americans for their base Camp Bondsteel.
(Aleks, 27 November 2011 13:04)
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Aleks, where did you get that information? I doubt very much that Kostunica would do something like that. I know the US was trying to get a 99 year lease, not only on camp bondsteel, but also other places around Serbia. I can't find any information that they succeeded.

"What is the point of these EU talks? They are meaningless expulsion of hot air and diverting from issues that really need attention. The best Serbia should look for is trade agreements. "


You're right that Serbia needs to fix it's own problems before worrying about the EU

Serbia is broken. So broken, it doesn't even realize how broken it is.

The path to the EU gives Serbia a blueprint to fix what's broken with it.

No, Serbia can't do this by itself. It would be better if it could, but it can't. It's too broken. It needs a doctor. It needs outside intervention.

The path to the EU (also sick and broken, but in different ways), gives Serbia what it needs to fix itself.

Whether or not Serbia actually joins the EU is a different story. Personally, I don't know the right answer. In a few years, who knows, the parameters of that decision making might change.

However, now, the road to the EU is the best chance Serbia has for fixing itself.

Koštunica signed a 99 year lease with the americans for their base Camp Bondsteel. So Mr. Koštunica, how exactly did that help Serbia or the serbs in Kosovo when that base allows supports american ethnic cleansing of kosovo serbs and is also a black site for the torture of suspected terrorists they have captured in Afghanistan, Iraq and elsewhere? Have you learnt your lesson yet or do you talk big but do nothing once you actually have the responsibility of government?

So you would prescribe the EU as a cure for Serbia's maladies even though the EU is "also sick and broken" ..... like getting a quack doctor to cure a patient ..... are you sure you have not lost your marbles? Or, more likely, as that English saying goes -- with friends like you, who needs enemies?
(lowe, 27 November 2011 14:50)

Broke EU is tranfering lots of money to Serbia. Show some pride: reject future payments, pay back what you have received so far!

"Talks about Serbia’s EU candidacy “meaningless”."


So are your proposed talks with Kosovo on the "status issue".

Ian, could you give a link to the documents dated after 1999 where Prishtina proposed anything less than independence in the current border of the province for Kosovo status? NEVER.

Could you give a link to the documents dated after 1999 where the West/US/NATO agreed to Kosovo partition? All of them kept/keep saying that Kosovo partition was/is out of question since 1999.

Just ask Albanian participants of this site.

This website is becoming like Kosovo. Overrun by albanians who wants to take what is not thirs.

Kostunica for president!
(MikeC, 27 November 2011 14:56)

MikeC,

Don't blame the mirror for your look. You are running out of arguments and blaming B92. It is not an argument just shouting "...albanians are taking something that is not theirs..." BUT SHOW us the deeds of ownership. If you really want to know the truth they are in Russia. You will find out when the Slavs moved to Europe from Russia with love.

"no Iowe.

I don't prescribe the EU to fix Serbia. I prescribe the process of joining the EU to fix Serbia's broken society.
(Danilo, 27 November 2011 15:50)"

Isn't the "process of joining the EU" tantamount to having to obey the dictates of the EU during that process? So how is this not prescribing the EU to fix Serbia?????????

Moreover given the current EU financial quagmire, are they indeed qualified to teach others at all????

This website is becoming like Kosovo. Overrun by albanians who wants to take what is not thirs.
Kostunica for president!
(MikeC, 27 November 2011 14:56)

Could you please make up your mind? If Kosovo is Serbia why should Kosovo-Albanians not write here? And why don't you use the Serbian edition of B92?

no Iowe.

I don't prescribe the EU to fix Serbia. I prescribe the process of joining the EU to fix Serbia's broken society.

"I prescribe the process of joining the EU to fix Serbia's broken society.
(Danilo, 27 November 2011 15:50)"

Based on his comments "Dr." Danilo does not seem to be the right person to prescribe anything helpful. Serbia has, like many many countries and societies, problems because of various historical, internal, and external reasons. Calling it broken is more a personal view, probably based on some biased reasons. It is up to Serbia and the Serbs to figure out where they are today, how they got here, and where they want to go 5, 10, 25, 50, 100 years, and so on from now on (and also where you certainly do not want to go). The first thing is to see the division and find a common ground for all to move forward. The next will be to stay independent and be your own #1 and so stop pleasing enemies and others who do not care about Serbia and its people. Then recognize and acknowledge the good friends Serbia had and has and intensify relationships with these countries. Every society goes through the changes it needs when it is ready. Serbia and Serbs are brave and the things that need adjustments can be done. A society without poverty and with respect, a strong sense of historical and cultural belonging will be the base. And every Serb should be important and Serbia should be run by true Serbs and not be outsiders who will abuse it for their own purposes.

It was Kostunica personally who delayed the negotiation of the SAA by messing up relations with The Hague. Funny he should stress the importance of free trade with the EU now.

"Broke EU is tranfering lots of money to Serbia. Show some pride: reject future payments, pay back what you have received so far!
(pro-me, 27 November 2011 15:49)"

If they are indeed transferring "lots of money" to Serbia despite being "Broke", then its sheer stupidity of the highest order if you ask me. Not sure if the EU tax payers won't be hopping mad if they knew. By the way, for your info I'm neither Serb nor from the Balkans.

"From 2007 to 2011 Serbia has received alone under the instrument for pre-accession assistance (IPA) 976,4 million Euros EU financial aid. Sounds a lot to me.
(pro-me, 28 November 2011 10:23) "

If that amount "Sounds a lot" to you although the EU is, according to your earlier post, "Broke" ..... well, then I rest my case about the EU's sheer stupidity.

By the way, do you have the amount spent by those EU countries when they joined Nato in attacking Serbia back in 1999? And the amount of damage inflicted? I don't the total figure but it won't surprise me one bit if that figure makes your 976.4 million euros seem like a drop in the bucket!

Good to see that some people are stuck in the past. As long as the question "who was there first" is your biggest problem, the situation in Kosovo can't be that bad as you make it sound.
Next you should discuss whose daddy has the better job, whose mother looks better and who has the best toys.

If they are indeed transferring "lots of money" to Serbia despite being "Broke", then its sheer stupidity of the highest order if you ask me. Not sure if the EU tax payers won't be hopping mad if they knew. By the way, for your info I'm neither Serb nor from the Balkans.
(lowe, 28 November 2011 04:38)

From 2007 to 2011 Serbia has received alone under the instrument for pre-accession assistance (IPA) 976,4 million Euros EU financial aid. Sounds a lot to me.

By the way, do you have the amount spent by those EU countries when they joined Nato in attacking Serbia back in 1999? And the amount of damage inflicted? I don't the total figure but it won't surprise me one bit if that figure makes your 976.4 million euros seem like a drop in the bucket!
(lowe, 28 November 2011 13:21)
Thanks for reminding us of the commitment of the EU in its efforts to rescue the Kosovo Albanians from the reign of terror from the Milosevic regime. During this time of much Serbian rhetoric one sometime forgets the real reason we are in this mess. And it reminds us that as long as there are supporters like you to the cause that a whole nation of innocent people are still in danger.

By the way, do you have the amount spent by those EU countries when they joined Nato in attacking Serbia back in 1999? And the amount of damage inflicted? I don't the total figure but it won't surprise me one bit if that figure makes your 976.4 million euros seem like a drop in the bucket!
(lowe, 28 November 2011 13:21)

Serbia simply shouldn't have started it. And instead of paying compensation it even receives money... So please don't complain!

"Isn't the "process of joining the EU" tantamount to having to obey the dictates of the EU during that process? So how is this not prescribing the EU to fix Serbia????????? "


"no. it isn't. Serbia still has to do the work. work that would only benefit Serbia and Serbs.
(Danilo, 28 November 2011 20:49)"

Then can you explain to us all how your "process of joining the EU" does not require Serbia to follow what the EU prescribe about reforms????? Stop fudging the issue and answer this basic question!

"Serbia simply shouldn't have started it. And instead of paying compensation it even receives money... So please don't complain!
(pro-me, 28 November 2011 18:00):

I see that you have decided not to contest further my point about EU's stupidity in lending.

Instead you now accuse of complaining about Serbia receiving money .... when did I complain about this? Its not my money anyway. What I did was to talk about EU's stupidity for giving away money that "Sounds a lot" (your words) even though it is "Broke" (your word again). Barking up the wrong tree again no doubt.

"Thanks for reminding us of the commitment of the EU in its efforts to rescue the Kosovo Albanians from the reign of terror from the Milosevic regime. During this time of much Serbian rhetoric one sometime forgets the real reason we are in this mess. And it reminds us that as long as there are supporters like you to the cause that a whole nation of innocent people are still in danger.
(a New Day, 28 November 2011 17:08) "

If you need me or anyone else to remind you about something, it either means that you have a real terrible memory or else Milosevic's reign can't be all that bad as otherwise you wouldn't need any reminder of its alleged atrocities. Either way, the problem is yours and not mine.

As for your hysterics about "supporters like you" -- can you show me where in my posts did I ever state that I support Milosevic or his actions?????? Sweeping statements like yours only reflect your own ignorance. Just for the record, I'm not a Serb, Serbian citizen or from South East Europe.

Christmas is coming so enjoy it because all predictions say that 2012 is going to be even tougher than ever.
(sj, 27 November 2011 13:18)

Yeah, we see it everyday by clicking the link "Economic crisis in Serbia" on the right of this page. Of course I don't enjoy, but feel sorry for the Serbs who have to face this economic crisis when millions of Serb taxpayer money are spent for the benefit of 1% of Serbs.

Yeah, we see it everyday by clicking the link "Economic crisis in Serbia" on the right of this page. Of course I don't enjoy, but feel sorry for the Serbs who have to face this economic crisis when millions of Serb taxpayer money are spent for the benefit of 1% of Serbs.
(icj1, 27 November 2011 19:28)

I’m not sure what you mean by this statement as Serbia is not the EU or US by any stretch of imagination, but I strongly suggest that you read the latest OECD report.
I also note how Serbian monasteries in Kosovo have to build walls around their lands to stop their neighbors from stealing fruit, vegetables, cattle and sheep because most are hungry and desperate – hope they enjoy their economic freedom brought to them by the west. I also presume that this is Albanian’s version of rule of law eh???

As long as the question "who was there first" is your biggest problem,
(pro-me, 28 November 2011 09:15)

But that's no longer a problem. That has already been solved since 1859 when Charles Darwin published his book "On the origin of species".

"Isn't the "process of joining the EU" tantamount to having to obey the dictates of the EU during that process? So how is this not prescribing the EU to fix Serbia????????? "


no. it isn't. Serbia still has to do the work. work that would only benefit Serbia and Serbs.

"Talks about Serbia’s EU candidacy “meaningless”."


So are your proposed talks with Kosovo on the "status issue".

no Iowe.

I don't prescribe the EU to fix Serbia. I prescribe the process of joining the EU to fix Serbia's broken society.

This website is becoming like Kosovo. Overrun by albanians who wants to take what is not thirs.

Kostunica for president!
(MikeC, 27 November 2011 14:56)

MikeC,

Don't blame the mirror for your look. You are running out of arguments and blaming B92. It is not an argument just shouting "...albanians are taking something that is not theirs..." BUT SHOW us the deeds of ownership. If you really want to know the truth they are in Russia. You will find out when the Slavs moved to Europe from Russia with love.

"What is the point of these EU talks? They are meaningless expulsion of hot air and diverting from issues that really need attention. The best Serbia should look for is trade agreements. "


You're right that Serbia needs to fix it's own problems before worrying about the EU

Serbia is broken. So broken, it doesn't even realize how broken it is.

The path to the EU gives Serbia a blueprint to fix what's broken with it.

No, Serbia can't do this by itself. It would be better if it could, but it can't. It's too broken. It needs a doctor. It needs outside intervention.

The path to the EU (also sick and broken, but in different ways), gives Serbia what it needs to fix itself.

Whether or not Serbia actually joins the EU is a different story. Personally, I don't know the right answer. In a few years, who knows, the parameters of that decision making might change.

However, now, the road to the EU is the best chance Serbia has for fixing itself.

It was Kostunica personally who delayed the negotiation of the SAA by messing up relations with The Hague. Funny he should stress the importance of free trade with the EU now.

This website is becoming like Kosovo. Overrun by albanians who wants to take what is not thirs.

Kostunica for president!

Koštunica signed a 99 year lease with the americans for their base Camp Bondsteel. So Mr. Koštunica, how exactly did that help Serbia or the serbs in Kosovo when that base allows supports american ethnic cleansing of kosovo serbs and is also a black site for the torture of suspected terrorists they have captured in Afghanistan, Iraq and elsewhere? Have you learnt your lesson yet or do you talk big but do nothing once you actually have the responsibility of government?

Well said Kostunica, I agree totally. As long as the EU believes you want to join they'll use it as leverage against you- they have done nothing for Serbs and although I believe they would eventually want you in it is only because they can control you, they won't want a free country in the middle of Europe. All this talk of a three tier Europe is much like the third Reich's ideas of a hierachy of people with the Germans being top and the others as slave workers and second class citizens or third class citizens. The EU was set up as a trading common maket and the people of Europe have been lied to again and again. I hope the EU falls apart, the people aren't happy, let's get back to it being a common market instead of a gravy train for unelected demi-gods.

Koštunica signed a 99 year lease with the americans for their base Camp Bondsteel.
(Aleks, 27 November 2011 13:04)
--
Aleks, where did you get that information? I doubt very much that Kostunica would do something like that. I know the US was trying to get a 99 year lease, not only on camp bondsteel, but also other places around Serbia. I can't find any information that they succeeded.

Kostunica is a very rare person and an even rarer politician. He actually believes in putting his people first.
What he claims is all true. What is the point of these EU talks? They are meaningless expulsion of hot air and diverting from issues that really need attention. The best Serbia should look for is trade agreements.
If there is any Serb deluded enough that believes that Euros will rain on Serbia after joining the EU then I’m very sorry for you. There is no money.
The EU is no longer the same entity it was in 2000 and its survival is on the table. As I heard one economist say today - the dark clouds are gathering over Europe and the US and they will get darker and many will feel the pains of allowing financial systems run wild.
Christmas is coming so enjoy it because all predictions say that 2012 is going to be even tougher than ever.

"No, Serbia can't do this by itself. It would be better if it could, but it can't. It's too broken. It needs a doctor. It needs outside intervention.

The path to the EU (also sick and broken, but in different ways), gives Serbia what it needs to fix itself.

Whether or not Serbia actually joins the EU is a different story. Personally, I don't know the right answer. In a few years, who knows, the parameters of that decision making might change.

However, now, the road to the EU is the best chance Serbia has for fixing itself.
(Danilo, 27 November 2011 14:22)"


So you would prescribe the EU as a cure for Serbia's maladies even though the EU is "also sick and broken" ..... like getting a quack doctor to cure a patient ..... are you sure you have not lost your marbles? Or, more likely, as that English saying goes -- with friends like you, who needs enemies?

So you would prescribe the EU as a cure for Serbia's maladies even though the EU is "also sick and broken" ..... like getting a quack doctor to cure a patient ..... are you sure you have not lost your marbles? Or, more likely, as that English saying goes -- with friends like you, who needs enemies?
(lowe, 27 November 2011 14:50)

Broke EU is tranfering lots of money to Serbia. Show some pride: reject future payments, pay back what you have received so far!

This website is becoming like Kosovo. Overrun by albanians who wants to take what is not thirs.
Kostunica for president!
(MikeC, 27 November 2011 14:56)

Could you please make up your mind? If Kosovo is Serbia why should Kosovo-Albanians not write here? And why don't you use the Serbian edition of B92?

Christmas is coming so enjoy it because all predictions say that 2012 is going to be even tougher than ever.
(sj, 27 November 2011 13:18)

Yeah, we see it everyday by clicking the link "Economic crisis in Serbia" on the right of this page. Of course I don't enjoy, but feel sorry for the Serbs who have to face this economic crisis when millions of Serb taxpayer money are spent for the benefit of 1% of Serbs.

Good to see that some people are stuck in the past. As long as the question "who was there first" is your biggest problem, the situation in Kosovo can't be that bad as you make it sound.
Next you should discuss whose daddy has the better job, whose mother looks better and who has the best toys.

Ian, could you give a link to the documents dated after 1999 where Prishtina proposed anything less than independence in the current border of the province for Kosovo status? NEVER.

Could you give a link to the documents dated after 1999 where the West/US/NATO agreed to Kosovo partition? All of them kept/keep saying that Kosovo partition was/is out of question since 1999.

Just ask Albanian participants of this site.

I completely agree that Serbia should only look to sign a free trade agreement with the EU, since it already has a visa-free travel agreement with EU. Please keep your sovereignty by not adopting the Euro and joining the EU!!!!!!!!

If they are indeed transferring "lots of money" to Serbia despite being "Broke", then its sheer stupidity of the highest order if you ask me. Not sure if the EU tax payers won't be hopping mad if they knew. By the way, for your info I'm neither Serb nor from the Balkans.
(lowe, 28 November 2011 04:38)

From 2007 to 2011 Serbia has received alone under the instrument for pre-accession assistance (IPA) 976,4 million Euros EU financial aid. Sounds a lot to me.

By the way, do you have the amount spent by those EU countries when they joined Nato in attacking Serbia back in 1999? And the amount of damage inflicted? I don't the total figure but it won't surprise me one bit if that figure makes your 976.4 million euros seem like a drop in the bucket!
(lowe, 28 November 2011 13:21)
Thanks for reminding us of the commitment of the EU in its efforts to rescue the Kosovo Albanians from the reign of terror from the Milosevic regime. During this time of much Serbian rhetoric one sometime forgets the real reason we are in this mess. And it reminds us that as long as there are supporters like you to the cause that a whole nation of innocent people are still in danger.

By the way, do you have the amount spent by those EU countries when they joined Nato in attacking Serbia back in 1999? And the amount of damage inflicted? I don't the total figure but it won't surprise me one bit if that figure makes your 976.4 million euros seem like a drop in the bucket!
(lowe, 28 November 2011 13:21)

Serbia simply shouldn't have started it. And instead of paying compensation it even receives money... So please don't complain!

"Isn't the "process of joining the EU" tantamount to having to obey the dictates of the EU during that process? So how is this not prescribing the EU to fix Serbia????????? "


no. it isn't. Serbia still has to do the work. work that would only benefit Serbia and Serbs.

Danilo- the EU is broke. We don't need EU meddling. Just copy what is good. There is no copyright on the EU accession process. Leave the Croats to be German servants, as they always have been.

"You will find out when the Slavs moved to Europe from Russia with love."

EA

I know when the slavs came to the balkans. And I know when albanians came to Kosovo. 100-150 years ago you fled impoverished Albania. To Albania you came from either Turkey or Hell. Since then you continue to escape the "pride of Europe" and settle in Kosovo.
Show me one building, monument or other proof that would indicate that albanians were in Kosovo before the serbs? Just one! It more likely that the ancient illyrian culture didn't leave any traces behind because they were never there in the first place.

"no Iowe.

I don't prescribe the EU to fix Serbia. I prescribe the process of joining the EU to fix Serbia's broken society.
(Danilo, 27 November 2011 15:50)"

Isn't the "process of joining the EU" tantamount to having to obey the dictates of the EU during that process? So how is this not prescribing the EU to fix Serbia?????????

Moreover given the current EU financial quagmire, are they indeed qualified to teach others at all????

"From 2007 to 2011 Serbia has received alone under the instrument for pre-accession assistance (IPA) 976,4 million Euros EU financial aid. Sounds a lot to me.
(pro-me, 28 November 2011 10:23) "

If that amount "Sounds a lot" to you although the EU is, according to your earlier post, "Broke" ..... well, then I rest my case about the EU's sheer stupidity.

By the way, do you have the amount spent by those EU countries when they joined Nato in attacking Serbia back in 1999? And the amount of damage inflicted? I don't the total figure but it won't surprise me one bit if that figure makes your 976.4 million euros seem like a drop in the bucket!

Yeah, we see it everyday by clicking the link "Economic crisis in Serbia" on the right of this page. Of course I don't enjoy, but feel sorry for the Serbs who have to face this economic crisis when millions of Serb taxpayer money are spent for the benefit of 1% of Serbs.
(icj1, 27 November 2011 19:28)

I’m not sure what you mean by this statement as Serbia is not the EU or US by any stretch of imagination, but I strongly suggest that you read the latest OECD report.
I also note how Serbian monasteries in Kosovo have to build walls around their lands to stop their neighbors from stealing fruit, vegetables, cattle and sheep because most are hungry and desperate – hope they enjoy their economic freedom brought to them by the west. I also presume that this is Albanian’s version of rule of law eh???

Don't blame the mirror for your look. You are running out of arguments and blaming B92. It is not an argument just shouting "...albanians are taking something that is not theirs..." BUT SHOW us the deeds of ownership. If you really want to know the truth they are in Russia. You will find out when the Slavs moved to Europe from Russia with love.
(EA, 27 November 2011 16:34)
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The "deed as you call is is proof in all the ancient buildings and paintings showing Serb history in Kosovo. Now I have been asking Albanians for proof of their ownership of Kosovo for a long time now and so far nothing. Not one piece of evidence in that form or in the form of any old map showing it as part of Albania or indeed something separate from Serbia.
So please do as you ask us to do and prove something instead of making yourself look silly by asking for something you clearly don't have.

"I prescribe the process of joining the EU to fix Serbia's broken society.
(Danilo, 27 November 2011 15:50)"

Based on his comments "Dr." Danilo does not seem to be the right person to prescribe anything helpful. Serbia has, like many many countries and societies, problems because of various historical, internal, and external reasons. Calling it broken is more a personal view, probably based on some biased reasons. It is up to Serbia and the Serbs to figure out where they are today, how they got here, and where they want to go 5, 10, 25, 50, 100 years, and so on from now on (and also where you certainly do not want to go). The first thing is to see the division and find a common ground for all to move forward. The next will be to stay independent and be your own #1 and so stop pleasing enemies and others who do not care about Serbia and its people. Then recognize and acknowledge the good friends Serbia had and has and intensify relationships with these countries. Every society goes through the changes it needs when it is ready. Serbia and Serbs are brave and the things that need adjustments can be done. A society without poverty and with respect, a strong sense of historical and cultural belonging will be the base. And every Serb should be important and Serbia should be run by true Serbs and not be outsiders who will abuse it for their own purposes.

"Broke EU is tranfering lots of money to Serbia. Show some pride: reject future payments, pay back what you have received so far!
(pro-me, 27 November 2011 15:49)"

If they are indeed transferring "lots of money" to Serbia despite being "Broke", then its sheer stupidity of the highest order if you ask me. Not sure if the EU tax payers won't be hopping mad if they knew. By the way, for your info I'm neither Serb nor from the Balkans.

As long as the question "who was there first" is your biggest problem,
(pro-me, 28 November 2011 09:15)

But that's no longer a problem. That has already been solved since 1859 when Charles Darwin published his book "On the origin of species".

"Isn't the "process of joining the EU" tantamount to having to obey the dictates of the EU during that process? So how is this not prescribing the EU to fix Serbia????????? "


"no. it isn't. Serbia still has to do the work. work that would only benefit Serbia and Serbs.
(Danilo, 28 November 2011 20:49)"

Then can you explain to us all how your "process of joining the EU" does not require Serbia to follow what the EU prescribe about reforms????? Stop fudging the issue and answer this basic question!

"Serbia simply shouldn't have started it. And instead of paying compensation it even receives money... So please don't complain!
(pro-me, 28 November 2011 18:00):

I see that you have decided not to contest further my point about EU's stupidity in lending.

Instead you now accuse of complaining about Serbia receiving money .... when did I complain about this? Its not my money anyway. What I did was to talk about EU's stupidity for giving away money that "Sounds a lot" (your words) even though it is "Broke" (your word again). Barking up the wrong tree again no doubt.

"Thanks for reminding us of the commitment of the EU in its efforts to rescue the Kosovo Albanians from the reign of terror from the Milosevic regime. During this time of much Serbian rhetoric one sometime forgets the real reason we are in this mess. And it reminds us that as long as there are supporters like you to the cause that a whole nation of innocent people are still in danger.
(a New Day, 28 November 2011 17:08) "

If you need me or anyone else to remind you about something, it either means that you have a real terrible memory or else Milosevic's reign can't be all that bad as otherwise you wouldn't need any reminder of its alleged atrocities. Either way, the problem is yours and not mine.

As for your hysterics about "supporters like you" -- can you show me where in my posts did I ever state that I support Milosevic or his actions?????? Sweeping statements like yours only reflect your own ignorance. Just for the record, I'm not a Serb, Serbian citizen or from South East Europe.