"Dačić would have support for war over Kosovo"

"Even if I don't live in Kosovo, I am for use of war to recuperate the Craddle of the Serbian Civilization, which is Kosovo.
(Peggy, 25 November 2011 16:40) "

The very fact that you don't live in Kosovo is probably the main reason why you advocate war. From your comment I can also conclude that you did not personally experience at frist hand the horrors of Balkan wars hence the reason why you promote it...

Every so often Serbia produces a hero like Millosevich that likes to donate piece of land , my question is what is this idiot ready to donate ( perhaps sandzak )

Even if I don't live in Kosovo, I am for use of war to recuperate the Craddle of the Serbian Civilization, which is Kosovo.
(Peggy, 25 November 2011 16:40)

Yawn... Kosovo "the Craddle (sic) of the Serbian Civilization" aka a term which has been coined up since 1999. Doesn't have much meaning. Why isn't "White Serbia" the so called cradle of Serbian civilisation?

I wonder if your beloved Noam Chomsky would agree with your justification of war?

You do realise that if Serbia starts a war with Kosovo it will instantly be repelled by NATO and just give Kosovo sympathy on the international arena.

Even if I don't live in Kosovo, I am for use of war to recuperate the Craddle of the Serbian Civilization, which is Kosovo.

Even if I don't live in Kosovo, I am for use of war to recuperate the Craddle of the Serbian Civilization, which is Kosovo.
(Peggy, 25 November 2011 16:40)

But Kosovo is Serbia, isn't it ? This would be the most pointless war in history for Serbia to recuperate something that Serbia already has :) I know that Serbia is used to pointless wars, but still...

Are you planing to get Russian citizenship Mr Minister.Didn't you go to war in 98-99 ? Ups i forgot you won that war and you want to repeat again.

I Love to see Serbia start a nother War and then serbia will and up with little land, Serbia will not have same Borders at it have now same time Vojvodin will be gone to, Serbia will be smoller with land

That's digusting. On offence against any health mind and against Serbia as a nation of culture and civilization.

Even if I don't live in Kosovo, I am for use of war to recuperate the Craddle of the Serbian Civilization, which is Kosovo.
(Peggy, 25 November 2011 16:40)

That's very convenient for someone who will not bear the consequences of that war Peggy.

Sacrificing the lives and the wealth of the Serbian people to occupy a territory where the population hates you. A territory which you lack the means to stabilize and reintegrate.

Why don't you condem Thaci who started this conflict over northern Kosovo? Or do you support him?
(aaayyy, 25 November 2011 19:19)

Because all Thaci tried to do was establish law and order in the north, it wasn't Thaci who had people killed but it was K-Serbs who murdered a policeman and through petrol bombs at KFOR soldiers. Also it is only a political conflict, it is Serb politicians who are talking about making it a military conflict.

Im surprsed to read today's albo comments. Funny, I thought you trolls wanted another go around with Serbs?

Lets set the ground work and rules for the engagement. Serbia vs albanism, no outside help or intervention. No crying in front of camera and TV crews from CNN, gloves off...winner take all? Are you all in or do you fold?

All we need now is for the Radicals to put aside their Anti-Nikolic rhetoric and join the SNS, DSS and SPS to recreate the coalition that should have ruled Serbia since 2008. Moscow admonishing the DS government this month on its Kosovo stance is what is really behind Dacic's statements, not ''election rhetoric'' because Moscow has too much money invested in longterm strategic interests which Serbia is integrally a part of, to let the glitter of EU money get in the way.

Every so often Serbia produces a hero like Millosevich that likes to donate piece of land , my question is what is this idiot ready to donate ( perhaps sandzak )

flo

Or perhaps Northern Epirus in south Albania. Remember, the greeks want that land back. Besides, who asked albanians to represent bosnjaks in Sandzak? Serbs are in control of northern Kosovo, are albanians in control of Sandzak?

Even if I don't live in Kosovo, I am for use of war to recuperate the Craddle of the Serbian Civilization, which is Kosovo.
(Peggy, 25 November 2011 16:40)

You are very brave Peggy. You would not fight in it, would not participate in any way but would not mind if Serbs were to die for a land you most likely have never been to, have no intention of visiting and if offered a chance to live there would probably refuse. So why would you not mind a war? So that you can feel good about being a Serb all those thousands of miles away from Serbia? You don't care for Serbia or the Serbs, you only want them to be a certain way for you. If its war you want Peggy, do the right thing an join the army. Do not advocate that the children of others die for some territory you only care for in rhetoric

You do realise that if Serbia starts a war with Kosovo it will instantly be repelled by NATO and just give Kosovo sympathy on the international arena.
(Ian, UK, 25 November 2011 17:32)

Why don't you condem Thaci who started this conflict over northern Kosovo? Or do you support him?

Lets set the ground work and rules for the engagement. Serbia vs albanism, no outside help or intervention. No crying in front of camera and TV crews from CNN, gloves off...winner take all? Are you all in or do you fold?
(reach around?, 25 November 2011 18:09)

OK you like to set rules! Since you serbians so brave let exchange our guns. We give you our guns and you gave us yours. And you will see that albanians will populate Belgrade in two weeks war. I have to remind you we already have seen you serbians how brave you are at Krajina.
Also as for Peggy that in last 10 years never stopped complain against albanians that are war mongers I feel really disappointed.

According to its mandat KFOR should provide freedom of movement for Kosovo Serbs in Southern part of the province. KFOR should provide the opportunity for Serbian refugees from Kosovo to return to Kosovo and enjoy life in safety all over Kosovo.
Let KFOR concentrate on this task.
(aaayyy, 25 November 2011 20:49)

Of course, that's what KFOR is focusing on; trying to ensure the freedom of movement of Kosovo Serbs, who, according to Zvečan Mayor Dragiša Milović are facing a difficult winter when it comes to freedom of movement, among others. So, I agree with you that we need to let KFOR concentrate on this task.

Who's law and who's order Ian??? UN Resolution 1244 guarantees Serbian sovereignty over Kosovo (as Serbia is the successor to Yugoslavia) , it even guarantees a return of Serbian border police. Its funny how the "democratic" West picks and chooses to abide by only those laws that suits their interests. Funny how laws are bent and twisted so much they can basically do ANYTHING to ANYONE they want. Well, unfortunately Ian that method can only get you so far. Serbia wont give up Kosovo, we will wait, we will study your moves, we will be a thorn in your side for as long as it takes for us to get back what is ours. We have the strength, patience and courage to outwit and outlast ALL occupiers. Serbian history is full of battles against occupiers (all of which thought they won, all of which were wrong in the end). You think Kosovo was lost to Serbia in '99 forever? This is NOTHING, compared to what we have overcome in the past. Serbia and its people will resist foreign domination until the end of time. Serbia is doing everything it can to drag its feet on Kosovo, to let the occupiers burn through their resources. In the meantime it should develop closer ties with its true allies, use its vast amount of academic resources to help build up the means to defend itself from the new enemy. If our scientists were good enough to work for NASA, the Pentagon, or to develop AC current, X-rays, Radio, etc... then the skills of talented Serbs should also be used to defend their homeland from foreign armies.
(David.V, 25 November 2011 23:12)

No no no! UNSCR 1244 guaranteed the FR-Yugoslavia's sovereignty over Kosovo for the INDEFINITE FUTURE, meaning that FR-Yugoslavia's sovereignty over Kosovo was NOT A PERMANENT GUARANTEE per UNSCR 1244. The Successor of FR-Yugoslavia was Serbia and Montenegro, which itself was replaced by two states and succeeded by Serbia according to the Serbian constitution (which I will come back to later). So Serbia is the successor to the successor of FR-Yugoslavia. Part of the FR-Yugoslavia's successor aka Montenegro, recognises Kosovo.

Anyway UNSCR 1244 said that Kosovo's final status (as Kosovo according to UNSCR 1244 is only apart of FR-Yugoslavia for the indefinite future) must be mutually agreed by both parties. The government established in Pristina per UNSCR 1244 tried and tried to discuss and negotiate the final status of Kosovo and Belgrade did not care at all and just ignored the government in Pristina. Belgrade did not want to discuss the final status of Kosovo and was just happy with the then status quo. Anyway along comes 8 November 2006 and the National Assembly of Serbia unveils the Constitution of Serbia. The Constitution of Serbia states that it "defines the Autonomous Province of Kosovo and Metohija as the integral part of Serbia", meaning that Serbia violated UNSCR 1244 in November 2006 as Belgrade unilaterally finalised Kosovo's status without giving anyone in Kosovo a say. The referendum on adopting the Serbian Constitution was not even carried out in Kosovo. The people of Kosovo and the authorities in Kosovo had no say over Kosovo's final status, it was not mutually agreed by both parties which UNSCR 1244 clearly states the case must be. As Serbia violated UNSCR 1244 in November 2006 with their constitution which unilaterally finalised Kosovo's status, this gave Kosovo no option but to declare independence. They had tried to negotiate the future of Kosovo's status, but Belgrade ignored them; Belgrade unilaterally finalised Kosovo's status without giving a single person in Kosovo a say. There was no mutual agreement by both parties.

So basically what I'm trying to say is, its funny how Serbia and friends pick and choose to abide by only those laws that suits their interests.

Now that Serbia has failed on the international arena diplomatically and the limited success Serbia has had is down to peace loving Russia actively lobbying against Kosovo. Not to mention Serbia's failure in the ICJ.

Now because things haven't gone as planned, we have Serbian politicians shouting "International Law" whilst banging the War Drums. Now isn't that ironic.

Peggy ... you talk about Civilization... thats the thing you never had and looks like it will be a while if you will ever have one.

Even if I don't live in Kosovo, I am for use of war to recuperate the Craddle of the Serbian Civilization, which is Kosovo.
(Peggy, 25 November 2011 16:40)

Of course you are, because you keep your a** in a cushy chair in the "evil" west, far from all consequences, like most of Serbian right wingers in the West.

Its not surprising that Dacic still has serb public support to go to war

People in the North don't need Thaci's law and order, they don't recognize Prishtina authority just like the most of the world doesn't recognize it.
(aaayyy, 25 November 2011 22:08)

That is not a justification for war. Either Northern Kosovo comes under Pristina's law and order or it comes under Belgrade's law and order via the recognition of Kosovo, south of the river Ibar. But no, Belgrade would rather battle it out with Pristina on the world stage without a care in the world for the situation in North Kosovo and use warmongering as a scare/ election tactic. This is why the Serbs in Northern Kosovo are looking to Russia for help because they have given up on Belgrade!

Northern Kosovo needs to become apart of either two realities for stability and peace, if Belgrade really cares about Northern Kosovo they'd allow it to integrate fully into either their own or Pristina's authority instead of it being stuck in some parallel universe at Northern Kosovo's expense; rather than threatening more bloodshed which will not achieve anything.

I'll be the first to admit that Thaci is no angel, but he is the only one trying to give Northern Kosovo a future by offering it law and order instead of it being a piece of land governed by local mayors without any future prospects or potential.

Also you say most of the world doesn't recognise Pristina's authority and you're right, but it is only a slim majority and many of those who don't recognise Kosovo do not back Belgrade on the issue; and with the current rate of recognition the majority of the world could recognise Kosovo in the next 12-24 months. A further 12 recognitions would change the statistics and that isn't impossible.

But just remember, more bloodshed will not achieve anything, nor will it be worth it!

Why don't you condem Thaci who started this conflict over northern Kosovo? Or do you support him?
(aaayyy, 25 November 2011 19:19)

Of course nobody supports conflicts, but is there a conflict in Northern Kosovo ?! If so, who is fighting and for what ? When, how and why did it start ? Just that we know whom to condemn, if a conflict exists.

Because all Thaci tried to do was establish law and order in the north
(Ian)

People in the North don't need Thaci's law and order, they don't recognize Prishtina authority just like the most of the world doesn't recognize it.

Even if I don't live in Kosovo, I am for use of war to recuperate the Craddle of the Serbian Civilization, which is Kosovo.
(Peggy, 25 November 2011 16:40)

I don't think you'll ever live in Kosova, you've had your chances already, how many times did serbia try to colonize and re-colonize Kosova during the 20th century?. Now to your wish for a war vs Kosova hmmmm haven't you learned your lesson already?.

Because all Thaci tried to do was establish law and order in the north, it wasn't Thaci who had people killed but it was K-Serbs who murdered a policeman and through petrol bombs at KFOR soldiers. Also it is only a political conflict, it is Serb politicians who are talking about making it a military conflict.
(Ian, UK, 25 November 2011 21:20)
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Really Ian? What about all the policemen who were murdered before the war in order to provoke a war?
What about their lives, or don't they count because they were Serbian and they are worth less than Albanians lives?
What was the purpose of killing police and harassing Serbs for decades?
I am sure you won't even believe it.

According to its mandat KFOR should provide freedom of movement for Kosovo Serbs in Southern part of the province. KFOR should provide the opportunity for Serbian refugees from Kosovo to return to Kosovo and enjoy life in safety all over Kosovo.
Let KFOR concentrate on this task.

B92, there has to be a way for you to filter out imposters here. How about checking IP addresses before you allow people to pretend to be someone else?
It's obvious some Albanian has hijacked my name in order to make me sound radical.
This has happened on another site quite a while ago which makes me wonder how much I am a thorn in their side and they have to try to discredit me.
Obviously I am too close to the truth and they can't handle it.

Because all Thaci tried to do was establish law and order in the north, it wasn't Thaci who had people killed but it was K-Serbs who murdered a policeman and through petrol bombs at KFOR soldiers. Also it is only a political conflict, it is Serb politicians who are talking about making it a military conflict.
(Ian, UK, 25 November 2011 21:20)

Who's law and who's order Ian??? UN Resolution 1244 guarantees Serbian sovereignty over Kosovo (as Serbia is the successor to Yugoslavia) , it even guarantees a return of Serbian border police. Its funny how the "democratic" West picks and chooses to abide by only those laws that suits their interests. Funny how laws are bent and twisted so much they can basically do ANYTHING to ANYONE they want. Well, unfortunately Ian that method can only get you so far. Serbia wont give up Kosovo, we will wait, we will study your moves, we will be a thorn in your side for as long as it takes for us to get back what is ours. We have the strength, patience and courage to outwit and outlast ALL occupiers. Serbian history is full of battles against occupiers (all of which thought they won, all of which were wrong in the end). You think Kosovo was lost to Serbia in '99 forever? This is NOTHING, compared to what we have overcome in the past. Serbia and its people will resist foreign domination until the end of time. Serbia is doing everything it can to drag its feet on Kosovo, to let the occupiers burn through their resources. In the meantime it should develop closer ties with its true allies, use its vast amount of academic resources to help build up the means to defend itself from the new enemy. If our scientists were good enough to work for NASA, the Pentagon, or to develop AC current, X-rays, Radio, etc... then the skills of talented Serbs should also be used to defend their homeland from foreign armies.

The simple Fact is that the Serbs do not want to live under the so called "Laws" of an illegal terrorist albanian entity and will fight to defend their land and people!

Next time you albanian cowards will not be able to run to NATO to save your pathetic rears!

Ian, since 1999 Prishtina has been proposing nothing less than independent Kosovo in its current border.

The West said/says that Kosovo partition is out of discussion.
(aaayyy, 26 November 2011 23:19)

And since 2008 aka when Belgrade started to give an interest in Kosovo, has not offered anything but Belgrade's sovereignty in its current boarders.

Russia and Friends said/ say that partition is out of discussion.

OK you like to set rules! Since you serbians so brave let exchange our guns. We give you our guns and you gave us yours. And you will see that albanians will populate Belgrade in two weeks war. I have to remind you we already have seen you serbians how brave you are at Krajina.
Also as for Peggy that in last 10 years never stopped complain against albanians that are war mongers I feel really disappointed.
(gjon fusha, 25 November 2011 20:10)

KLA was very well armed and equipted probably by US

Even if I don't live in Kosovo, I am for use of war to recuperate the Craddle of the Serbian Civilization, which is Kosovo.
(Peggy, 25 November 2011 16:40)

That's very convenient for someone who will not bear the consequences of that war Peggy.

Sacrificing the lives and the wealth of the Serbian people to occupy a territory where the population hates you. A territory which you lack the means to stabilize and reintegrate.
(Ruben-NYC, 25 November 2011 22:39)
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I want to make one thing crystal clear. I DID NOT SAY THIS. Whoever is using my name is obviously using it for foul purposes.
Nice try, but anyone who has known me for as long as I have posted here would know that I would not write this. I have never, ever used the term "cradle of Serbian civilisation", even if I do agree with this term.

You are very brave Peggy. You would not fight in it, would not participate in any way but would not mind if Serbs were to die for a land you most likely have never been to, have no intention of visiting and if offered a chance to live there would probably refuse. So why would you not mind a war? So that you can feel good about being a Serb all those thousands of miles away from Serbia? You don't care for Serbia or the Serbs, you only want them to be a certain way for you. If its war you want Peggy, do the right thing an join the army. Do not advocate that the children of others die for some territory you only care for in rhetoric
(Sean, 26 November 2011 11:40)

On the other hand I'm sure she already gave much more as a virtual warrior then many others have done in real war circumstances and therefore I consider your writing at this point as a nonsense. It's definitely sure that 5 Peggy's would kick all buts on B92 and 500 Peggy's in coordination would won any media war. I cant say she could ever hold gun but 85% (at least) of people involved in modern warfare are not members of the army anyhow. She's better soldier then many army or paramilitary members I met in my life. She can be thousands miles away but there are Serbs in Kosovo or Serbia who are physically there but mentally thousands miles away too..

She should go to Serbia or Kosovo., as a hero.

Basically there is no answer.

For the Albanians they are so set in their minds about independence and they will never accept Kosovo as Serbian but only as an independent country. It's evident that Albania as a separate nation is strongly supporting Kosovo's independence with hopes to join Albania & Kosovo. Why would the Albanians in KosovA not want to join Albania? and vice-versa.

On the other side of the fence we have us Serbs who will never accept or recognise Kosovo as an independent state or country or whatever the Albanians are calling it. We have been the longest inhabitants of Kosovo & are not going to give it up because of the arrival of Americans & Germans in the 21st century.

We are losing our citizens every other week through murder and intimidation leading to evacuation.

The talks are proving useless with Serbs from the North wanting to SUE Stefanovic and labelling him as a traitor. ET (or Edita Tahiri) is close minded on the issue, especially of border checkpoints.

There will be no big change from either side. Tadic wants EU but EU are leading Serbia on and on and all of us know that Tadic is doing this for a big euro paycheck that awaits him.

Going to war over territorial disputes is not a new concept and has proven to solve the problem, at the expense of lost lives from both sides.

We are already losing lives in Kosovo and nothing is being done about it.

What is the answer? There isn't one. It's going to end nasty.

We're both going to lose out.

Because all Thaci tried to do was establish law and order in the north, it wasn't Thaci who had people killed but it was K-Serbs who murdered a policeman and through petrol bombs at KFOR soldiers. Also it is only a political conflict, it is Serb politicians who are talking about making it a military conflict.
(Ian, UK, 25 November 2011 21:20)

If it's true that you got yourself one of them mail-order brides from Kosova you shouldn't keep it hidden--that way folks would better understand your motives behind your evil writing.

Did you know that you can be born again in this here world and know the Lord?

As you already know Brother Ian, I never did mistake you for one of them gallant British souls with a sense for honor and justice.

Even if I don't live in Kosovo, I am for use of war to recuperate the Craddle of the Serbian Civilization, which is Kosovo.
(Peggy, 25 November 2011 16:40)

That's very convenient for someone who will not bear the consequences of that war Peggy.

Sacrificing the lives and the wealth of the Serbian people to occupy a territory where the population hates you. A territory which you lack the means to stabilize and reintegrate.
(Ruben-NYC, 25 November 2011 22:39)

Do KAlbs have means to stabilize and integrate KSerb enclaves?

She should go to Serbia or Kosovo., as a hero.
(ZMAJ, 28 November 2011 02:35)
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Thank you for those kind words but I don't see myself as any kind of hero. The true heroes out there are the brave Serbs who have chosen to remain in Kosovo, exposed to murder and intimidation on daily basis.
It's true that there are more ways to fight than with a gun and Albanians themselves have chosen that way, with their dirty, evil drug and human misery money.
At least what we in diaspora do is try to raise awareness of Serbian plight and try to get others to understand us and work with us.
Just last Saturday I went to a meeting organized by Q Society of Australia which brought Robert Spencer to give a talk on Islamisation of the west by stealth.
I raised the question of Bosnia and Kosovo and he talked about it. The room was filled with many concerned Australians who heard what he had to say and he was not kind to the Muslims but he did and does see the Serbian side.
I am very active in making and distributing DVDs for people to watch as well.
Coming on this site is only a part of what I do. Albanians with the help of US and dirty money got to announce their point of view and we can do the same. We are talking to ordinary people here who are more and more agreeing with us. There is a role for us in diaspora so people like Sean telling me to pick up a gun and go in is only to try to minimize what I do.
Besides, someone here has decided to impersonate me and they seem to have gotten away with it. I have already said that it was not me posting it but too many silly people like Sean just can't read.

Ian, since 1999 Prishtina has been proposing nothing less than independent Kosovo in its current border.

The West said/says that Kosovo partition is out of discussion.

Besides, someone here has decided to impersonate me and they seem to have gotten away with it. I have already said that it was not me posting it but too many silly people like Sean just can't read.
(Peggy, 28 November 2011 21:03)

I do not read too.. I do not have time to read all of 'em but here and there something jumps out drawing attention anyhow. And that's why B92 should provide accounts to it's commentators, not to speak about all other reasons to do that. There should be "vulnerable" possibility to comment as a guest too, at this point comment should be removed if requested by original account owner. Initial accounts should be claimed by IP.

Even if I don't live in Kosovo, I am for use of war to recuperate the Craddle of the Serbian Civilization, which is Kosovo.

Every so often Serbia produces a hero like Millosevich that likes to donate piece of land , my question is what is this idiot ready to donate ( perhaps sandzak )

flo

Or perhaps Northern Epirus in south Albania. Remember, the greeks want that land back. Besides, who asked albanians to represent bosnjaks in Sandzak? Serbs are in control of northern Kosovo, are albanians in control of Sandzak?

Every so often Serbia produces a hero like Millosevich that likes to donate piece of land , my question is what is this idiot ready to donate ( perhaps sandzak )

Im surprsed to read today's albo comments. Funny, I thought you trolls wanted another go around with Serbs?

Lets set the ground work and rules for the engagement. Serbia vs albanism, no outside help or intervention. No crying in front of camera and TV crews from CNN, gloves off...winner take all? Are you all in or do you fold?

That's digusting. On offence against any health mind and against Serbia as a nation of culture and civilization.

OK you like to set rules! Since you serbians so brave let exchange our guns. We give you our guns and you gave us yours. And you will see that albanians will populate Belgrade in two weeks war. I have to remind you we already have seen you serbians how brave you are at Krajina.
Also as for Peggy that in last 10 years never stopped complain against albanians that are war mongers I feel really disappointed.
(gjon fusha, 25 November 2011 20:10)

KLA was very well armed and equipted probably by US

"Even if I don't live in Kosovo, I am for use of war to recuperate the Craddle of the Serbian Civilization, which is Kosovo.
(Peggy, 25 November 2011 16:40) "

The very fact that you don't live in Kosovo is probably the main reason why you advocate war. From your comment I can also conclude that you did not personally experience at frist hand the horrors of Balkan wars hence the reason why you promote it...

Even if I don't live in Kosovo, I am for use of war to recuperate the Craddle of the Serbian Civilization, which is Kosovo.
(Peggy, 25 November 2011 16:40)

Yawn... Kosovo "the Craddle (sic) of the Serbian Civilization" aka a term which has been coined up since 1999. Doesn't have much meaning. Why isn't "White Serbia" the so called cradle of Serbian civilisation?

I wonder if your beloved Noam Chomsky would agree with your justification of war?

You do realise that if Serbia starts a war with Kosovo it will instantly be repelled by NATO and just give Kosovo sympathy on the international arena.

I Love to see Serbia start a nother War and then serbia will and up with little land, Serbia will not have same Borders at it have now same time Vojvodin will be gone to, Serbia will be smoller with land

Because all Thaci tried to do was establish law and order in the north
(Ian)

People in the North don't need Thaci's law and order, they don't recognize Prishtina authority just like the most of the world doesn't recognize it.

B92, there has to be a way for you to filter out imposters here. How about checking IP addresses before you allow people to pretend to be someone else?
It's obvious some Albanian has hijacked my name in order to make me sound radical.
This has happened on another site quite a while ago which makes me wonder how much I am a thorn in their side and they have to try to discredit me.
Obviously I am too close to the truth and they can't handle it.

The simple Fact is that the Serbs do not want to live under the so called "Laws" of an illegal terrorist albanian entity and will fight to defend their land and people!

Next time you albanian cowards will not be able to run to NATO to save your pathetic rears!

All we need now is for the Radicals to put aside their Anti-Nikolic rhetoric and join the SNS, DSS and SPS to recreate the coalition that should have ruled Serbia since 2008. Moscow admonishing the DS government this month on its Kosovo stance is what is really behind Dacic's statements, not ''election rhetoric'' because Moscow has too much money invested in longterm strategic interests which Serbia is integrally a part of, to let the glitter of EU money get in the way.

You do realise that if Serbia starts a war with Kosovo it will instantly be repelled by NATO and just give Kosovo sympathy on the international arena.
(Ian, UK, 25 November 2011 17:32)

Why don't you condem Thaci who started this conflict over northern Kosovo? Or do you support him?

Even if I don't live in Kosovo, I am for use of war to recuperate the Craddle of the Serbian Civilization, which is Kosovo.
(Peggy, 25 November 2011 16:40)

But Kosovo is Serbia, isn't it ? This would be the most pointless war in history for Serbia to recuperate something that Serbia already has :) I know that Serbia is used to pointless wars, but still...

According to its mandat KFOR should provide freedom of movement for Kosovo Serbs in Southern part of the province. KFOR should provide the opportunity for Serbian refugees from Kosovo to return to Kosovo and enjoy life in safety all over Kosovo.
Let KFOR concentrate on this task.

Because all Thaci tried to do was establish law and order in the north, it wasn't Thaci who had people killed but it was K-Serbs who murdered a policeman and through petrol bombs at KFOR soldiers. Also it is only a political conflict, it is Serb politicians who are talking about making it a military conflict.
(Ian, UK, 25 November 2011 21:20)
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Really Ian? What about all the policemen who were murdered before the war in order to provoke a war?
What about their lives, or don't they count because they were Serbian and they are worth less than Albanians lives?
What was the purpose of killing police and harassing Serbs for decades?
I am sure you won't even believe it.

Even if I don't live in Kosovo, I am for use of war to recuperate the Craddle of the Serbian Civilization, which is Kosovo.
(Peggy, 25 November 2011 16:40)

That's very convenient for someone who will not bear the consequences of that war Peggy.

Sacrificing the lives and the wealth of the Serbian people to occupy a territory where the population hates you. A territory which you lack the means to stabilize and reintegrate.
(Ruben-NYC, 25 November 2011 22:39)

Do KAlbs have means to stabilize and integrate KSerb enclaves?

Even if I don't live in Kosovo, I am for use of war to recuperate the Craddle of the Serbian Civilization, which is Kosovo.
(Peggy, 25 November 2011 16:40)

You are very brave Peggy. You would not fight in it, would not participate in any way but would not mind if Serbs were to die for a land you most likely have never been to, have no intention of visiting and if offered a chance to live there would probably refuse. So why would you not mind a war? So that you can feel good about being a Serb all those thousands of miles away from Serbia? You don't care for Serbia or the Serbs, you only want them to be a certain way for you. If its war you want Peggy, do the right thing an join the army. Do not advocate that the children of others die for some territory you only care for in rhetoric

Why don't you condem Thaci who started this conflict over northern Kosovo? Or do you support him?
(aaayyy, 25 November 2011 19:19)

Because all Thaci tried to do was establish law and order in the north, it wasn't Thaci who had people killed but it was K-Serbs who murdered a policeman and through petrol bombs at KFOR soldiers. Also it is only a political conflict, it is Serb politicians who are talking about making it a military conflict.

Even if I don't live in Kosovo, I am for use of war to recuperate the Craddle of the Serbian Civilization, which is Kosovo.
(Peggy, 25 November 2011 16:40)

That's very convenient for someone who will not bear the consequences of that war Peggy.

Sacrificing the lives and the wealth of the Serbian people to occupy a territory where the population hates you. A territory which you lack the means to stabilize and reintegrate.

Even if I don't live in Kosovo, I am for use of war to recuperate the Craddle of the Serbian Civilization, which is Kosovo.
(Peggy, 25 November 2011 16:40)

That's very convenient for someone who will not bear the consequences of that war Peggy.

Sacrificing the lives and the wealth of the Serbian people to occupy a territory where the population hates you. A territory which you lack the means to stabilize and reintegrate.
(Ruben-NYC, 25 November 2011 22:39)
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I want to make one thing crystal clear. I DID NOT SAY THIS. Whoever is using my name is obviously using it for foul purposes.
Nice try, but anyone who has known me for as long as I have posted here would know that I would not write this. I have never, ever used the term "cradle of Serbian civilisation", even if I do agree with this term.

Are you planing to get Russian citizenship Mr Minister.Didn't you go to war in 98-99 ? Ups i forgot you won that war and you want to repeat again.

Lets set the ground work and rules for the engagement. Serbia vs albanism, no outside help or intervention. No crying in front of camera and TV crews from CNN, gloves off...winner take all? Are you all in or do you fold?
(reach around?, 25 November 2011 18:09)

OK you like to set rules! Since you serbians so brave let exchange our guns. We give you our guns and you gave us yours. And you will see that albanians will populate Belgrade in two weeks war. I have to remind you we already have seen you serbians how brave you are at Krajina.
Also as for Peggy that in last 10 years never stopped complain against albanians that are war mongers I feel really disappointed.

Because all Thaci tried to do was establish law and order in the north, it wasn't Thaci who had people killed but it was K-Serbs who murdered a policeman and through petrol bombs at KFOR soldiers. Also it is only a political conflict, it is Serb politicians who are talking about making it a military conflict.
(Ian, UK, 25 November 2011 21:20)

If it's true that you got yourself one of them mail-order brides from Kosova you shouldn't keep it hidden--that way folks would better understand your motives behind your evil writing.

Did you know that you can be born again in this here world and know the Lord?

As you already know Brother Ian, I never did mistake you for one of them gallant British souls with a sense for honor and justice.

Who's law and who's order Ian??? UN Resolution 1244 guarantees Serbian sovereignty over Kosovo (as Serbia is the successor to Yugoslavia) , it even guarantees a return of Serbian border police. Its funny how the "democratic" West picks and chooses to abide by only those laws that suits their interests. Funny how laws are bent and twisted so much they can basically do ANYTHING to ANYONE they want. Well, unfortunately Ian that method can only get you so far. Serbia wont give up Kosovo, we will wait, we will study your moves, we will be a thorn in your side for as long as it takes for us to get back what is ours. We have the strength, patience and courage to outwit and outlast ALL occupiers. Serbian history is full of battles against occupiers (all of which thought they won, all of which were wrong in the end). You think Kosovo was lost to Serbia in '99 forever? This is NOTHING, compared to what we have overcome in the past. Serbia and its people will resist foreign domination until the end of time. Serbia is doing everything it can to drag its feet on Kosovo, to let the occupiers burn through their resources. In the meantime it should develop closer ties with its true allies, use its vast amount of academic resources to help build up the means to defend itself from the new enemy. If our scientists were good enough to work for NASA, the Pentagon, or to develop AC current, X-rays, Radio, etc... then the skills of talented Serbs should also be used to defend their homeland from foreign armies.
(David.V, 25 November 2011 23:12)

No no no! UNSCR 1244 guaranteed the FR-Yugoslavia's sovereignty over Kosovo for the INDEFINITE FUTURE, meaning that FR-Yugoslavia's sovereignty over Kosovo was NOT A PERMANENT GUARANTEE per UNSCR 1244. The Successor of FR-Yugoslavia was Serbia and Montenegro, which itself was replaced by two states and succeeded by Serbia according to the Serbian constitution (which I will come back to later). So Serbia is the successor to the successor of FR-Yugoslavia. Part of the FR-Yugoslavia's successor aka Montenegro, recognises Kosovo.

Anyway UNSCR 1244 said that Kosovo's final status (as Kosovo according to UNSCR 1244 is only apart of FR-Yugoslavia for the indefinite future) must be mutually agreed by both parties. The government established in Pristina per UNSCR 1244 tried and tried to discuss and negotiate the final status of Kosovo and Belgrade did not care at all and just ignored the government in Pristina. Belgrade did not want to discuss the final status of Kosovo and was just happy with the then status quo. Anyway along comes 8 November 2006 and the National Assembly of Serbia unveils the Constitution of Serbia. The Constitution of Serbia states that it "defines the Autonomous Province of Kosovo and Metohija as the integral part of Serbia", meaning that Serbia violated UNSCR 1244 in November 2006 as Belgrade unilaterally finalised Kosovo's status without giving anyone in Kosovo a say. The referendum on adopting the Serbian Constitution was not even carried out in Kosovo. The people of Kosovo and the authorities in Kosovo had no say over Kosovo's final status, it was not mutually agreed by both parties which UNSCR 1244 clearly states the case must be. As Serbia violated UNSCR 1244 in November 2006 with their constitution which unilaterally finalised Kosovo's status, this gave Kosovo no option but to declare independence. They had tried to negotiate the future of Kosovo's status, but Belgrade ignored them; Belgrade unilaterally finalised Kosovo's status without giving a single person in Kosovo a say. There was no mutual agreement by both parties.

So basically what I'm trying to say is, its funny how Serbia and friends pick and choose to abide by only those laws that suits their interests.

Now that Serbia has failed on the international arena diplomatically and the limited success Serbia has had is down to peace loving Russia actively lobbying against Kosovo. Not to mention Serbia's failure in the ICJ.

Now because things haven't gone as planned, we have Serbian politicians shouting "International Law" whilst banging the War Drums. Now isn't that ironic.

Because all Thaci tried to do was establish law and order in the north, it wasn't Thaci who had people killed but it was K-Serbs who murdered a policeman and through petrol bombs at KFOR soldiers. Also it is only a political conflict, it is Serb politicians who are talking about making it a military conflict.
(Ian, UK, 25 November 2011 21:20)

Who's law and who's order Ian??? UN Resolution 1244 guarantees Serbian sovereignty over Kosovo (as Serbia is the successor to Yugoslavia) , it even guarantees a return of Serbian border police. Its funny how the "democratic" West picks and chooses to abide by only those laws that suits their interests. Funny how laws are bent and twisted so much they can basically do ANYTHING to ANYONE they want. Well, unfortunately Ian that method can only get you so far. Serbia wont give up Kosovo, we will wait, we will study your moves, we will be a thorn in your side for as long as it takes for us to get back what is ours. We have the strength, patience and courage to outwit and outlast ALL occupiers. Serbian history is full of battles against occupiers (all of which thought they won, all of which were wrong in the end). You think Kosovo was lost to Serbia in '99 forever? This is NOTHING, compared to what we have overcome in the past. Serbia and its people will resist foreign domination until the end of time. Serbia is doing everything it can to drag its feet on Kosovo, to let the occupiers burn through their resources. In the meantime it should develop closer ties with its true allies, use its vast amount of academic resources to help build up the means to defend itself from the new enemy. If our scientists were good enough to work for NASA, the Pentagon, or to develop AC current, X-rays, Radio, etc... then the skills of talented Serbs should also be used to defend their homeland from foreign armies.

Basically there is no answer.

For the Albanians they are so set in their minds about independence and they will never accept Kosovo as Serbian but only as an independent country. It's evident that Albania as a separate nation is strongly supporting Kosovo's independence with hopes to join Albania & Kosovo. Why would the Albanians in KosovA not want to join Albania? and vice-versa.

On the other side of the fence we have us Serbs who will never accept or recognise Kosovo as an independent state or country or whatever the Albanians are calling it. We have been the longest inhabitants of Kosovo & are not going to give it up because of the arrival of Americans & Germans in the 21st century.

We are losing our citizens every other week through murder and intimidation leading to evacuation.

The talks are proving useless with Serbs from the North wanting to SUE Stefanovic and labelling him as a traitor. ET (or Edita Tahiri) is close minded on the issue, especially of border checkpoints.

There will be no big change from either side. Tadic wants EU but EU are leading Serbia on and on and all of us know that Tadic is doing this for a big euro paycheck that awaits him.

Going to war over territorial disputes is not a new concept and has proven to solve the problem, at the expense of lost lives from both sides.

We are already losing lives in Kosovo and nothing is being done about it.

What is the answer? There isn't one. It's going to end nasty.

We're both going to lose out.

Peggy ... you talk about Civilization... thats the thing you never had and looks like it will be a while if you will ever have one.

Even if I don't live in Kosovo, I am for use of war to recuperate the Craddle of the Serbian Civilization, which is Kosovo.
(Peggy, 25 November 2011 16:40)

I don't think you'll ever live in Kosova, you've had your chances already, how many times did serbia try to colonize and re-colonize Kosova during the 20th century?. Now to your wish for a war vs Kosova hmmmm haven't you learned your lesson already?.

Ian, since 1999 Prishtina has been proposing nothing less than independent Kosovo in its current border.

The West said/says that Kosovo partition is out of discussion.

Even if I don't live in Kosovo, I am for use of war to recuperate the Craddle of the Serbian Civilization, which is Kosovo.
(Peggy, 25 November 2011 16:40)

Of course you are, because you keep your a** in a cushy chair in the "evil" west, far from all consequences, like most of Serbian right wingers in the West.

Ian, since 1999 Prishtina has been proposing nothing less than independent Kosovo in its current border.

The West said/says that Kosovo partition is out of discussion.
(aaayyy, 26 November 2011 23:19)

And since 2008 aka when Belgrade started to give an interest in Kosovo, has not offered anything but Belgrade's sovereignty in its current boarders.

Russia and Friends said/ say that partition is out of discussion.

Its not surprising that Dacic still has serb public support to go to war

People in the North don't need Thaci's law and order, they don't recognize Prishtina authority just like the most of the world doesn't recognize it.
(aaayyy, 25 November 2011 22:08)

That is not a justification for war. Either Northern Kosovo comes under Pristina's law and order or it comes under Belgrade's law and order via the recognition of Kosovo, south of the river Ibar. But no, Belgrade would rather battle it out with Pristina on the world stage without a care in the world for the situation in North Kosovo and use warmongering as a scare/ election tactic. This is why the Serbs in Northern Kosovo are looking to Russia for help because they have given up on Belgrade!

Northern Kosovo needs to become apart of either two realities for stability and peace, if Belgrade really cares about Northern Kosovo they'd allow it to integrate fully into either their own or Pristina's authority instead of it being stuck in some parallel universe at Northern Kosovo's expense; rather than threatening more bloodshed which will not achieve anything.

I'll be the first to admit that Thaci is no angel, but he is the only one trying to give Northern Kosovo a future by offering it law and order instead of it being a piece of land governed by local mayors without any future prospects or potential.

Also you say most of the world doesn't recognise Pristina's authority and you're right, but it is only a slim majority and many of those who don't recognise Kosovo do not back Belgrade on the issue; and with the current rate of recognition the majority of the world could recognise Kosovo in the next 12-24 months. A further 12 recognitions would change the statistics and that isn't impossible.

But just remember, more bloodshed will not achieve anything, nor will it be worth it!

Why don't you condem Thaci who started this conflict over northern Kosovo? Or do you support him?
(aaayyy, 25 November 2011 19:19)

Of course nobody supports conflicts, but is there a conflict in Northern Kosovo ?! If so, who is fighting and for what ? When, how and why did it start ? Just that we know whom to condemn, if a conflict exists.

According to its mandat KFOR should provide freedom of movement for Kosovo Serbs in Southern part of the province. KFOR should provide the opportunity for Serbian refugees from Kosovo to return to Kosovo and enjoy life in safety all over Kosovo.
Let KFOR concentrate on this task.
(aaayyy, 25 November 2011 20:49)

Of course, that's what KFOR is focusing on; trying to ensure the freedom of movement of Kosovo Serbs, who, according to Zvečan Mayor Dragiša Milović are facing a difficult winter when it comes to freedom of movement, among others. So, I agree with you that we need to let KFOR concentrate on this task.

You are very brave Peggy. You would not fight in it, would not participate in any way but would not mind if Serbs were to die for a land you most likely have never been to, have no intention of visiting and if offered a chance to live there would probably refuse. So why would you not mind a war? So that you can feel good about being a Serb all those thousands of miles away from Serbia? You don't care for Serbia or the Serbs, you only want them to be a certain way for you. If its war you want Peggy, do the right thing an join the army. Do not advocate that the children of others die for some territory you only care for in rhetoric
(Sean, 26 November 2011 11:40)

On the other hand I'm sure she already gave much more as a virtual warrior then many others have done in real war circumstances and therefore I consider your writing at this point as a nonsense. It's definitely sure that 5 Peggy's would kick all buts on B92 and 500 Peggy's in coordination would won any media war. I cant say she could ever hold gun but 85% (at least) of people involved in modern warfare are not members of the army anyhow. She's better soldier then many army or paramilitary members I met in my life. She can be thousands miles away but there are Serbs in Kosovo or Serbia who are physically there but mentally thousands miles away too..

She should go to Serbia or Kosovo., as a hero.

She should go to Serbia or Kosovo., as a hero.
(ZMAJ, 28 November 2011 02:35)
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Thank you for those kind words but I don't see myself as any kind of hero. The true heroes out there are the brave Serbs who have chosen to remain in Kosovo, exposed to murder and intimidation on daily basis.
It's true that there are more ways to fight than with a gun and Albanians themselves have chosen that way, with their dirty, evil drug and human misery money.
At least what we in diaspora do is try to raise awareness of Serbian plight and try to get others to understand us and work with us.
Just last Saturday I went to a meeting organized by Q Society of Australia which brought Robert Spencer to give a talk on Islamisation of the west by stealth.
I raised the question of Bosnia and Kosovo and he talked about it. The room was filled with many concerned Australians who heard what he had to say and he was not kind to the Muslims but he did and does see the Serbian side.
I am very active in making and distributing DVDs for people to watch as well.
Coming on this site is only a part of what I do. Albanians with the help of US and dirty money got to announce their point of view and we can do the same. We are talking to ordinary people here who are more and more agreeing with us. There is a role for us in diaspora so people like Sean telling me to pick up a gun and go in is only to try to minimize what I do.
Besides, someone here has decided to impersonate me and they seem to have gotten away with it. I have already said that it was not me posting it but too many silly people like Sean just can't read.

Besides, someone here has decided to impersonate me and they seem to have gotten away with it. I have already said that it was not me posting it but too many silly people like Sean just can't read.
(Peggy, 28 November 2011 21:03)

I do not read too.. I do not have time to read all of 'em but here and there something jumps out drawing attention anyhow. And that's why B92 should provide accounts to it's commentators, not to speak about all other reasons to do that. There should be "vulnerable" possibility to comment as a guest too, at this point comment should be removed if requested by original account owner. Initial accounts should be claimed by IP.