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Monday, 21.11.2011.

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16 years since Dayton Peace Accords

Today marks 16 years since the Dayton Accords were initialed, bringing to an end the three and a half years of war in Bosnia-Herzegovina.

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Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

It gets bigger and better as the years go on. By 2020 the Croat Armies will have conquered all of Europe and half of Asia.
(sj, 22 November 2011 22:59)

LOL by that point, Nazi Germany would have been a puppet state of the NDH, and Venice would be a colony of Dubrovnik :)

sj

pre 12 godina

(Lenard, 22 November 2011 10:24)


Its politics that made this happen not the mighty Croats army. Where do you people live; some rustic backward community where a radio is a luxury?

“Same in Bosnia [link] 2 Croatian brigades took on 10 Serb brigades pushed them back 100s of kilometres with heavy mauling of the Serb brigades to Banja Luka. Which are only good at criminally murdering ethnic cleansing unarmed civilians the Serb pathetic brigades.”

You mean the Bihac offensive, well that happened after Dayton was signed and its funny how they stopped at the agreed lines???hmm? It’s not because of the mighty Croat army. In fact I have more respect for the Bosniaks than your lot because when Croats attacked them they were on their knees, but they fought back and would have wiped your cowards out if mother US did not stop them.

It gets bigger and better as the years go on. By 2020 the Croat Armies will have conquered all of Europe and half of Asia.

Lenard

pre 12 godina

sj As the years go by the legend gets better with the telling about glorious Croat and Bosniak troops defeating the Serbs. Its like the fish that got away – it gets bigger and better with the telling and very soon the fish is bigger than a house. Sj Damir is rite a 3rd echelon Croatian 204th brigade stopped Serbia's best brigades troops for 3 months at the border. Out numbered 20 to 1 in manpower low in ammunition no tanks heavy ,artillery or fighter planes which Serbia had 600 tanks on the battle field ,artillery galore ,fighter aircraft in the 100s Serbia stole. Same in Bosnia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mistral 2 Croatian brigades took on 10 Serb brigades pushed them back 100s of kilometres with heavy mauling of the Serb brigades to Banja Luka. Which are only good at criminally murdering ethnic cleansing unarmed civilians the Serb pathetic brigades.

New Zealander

pre 12 godina

serbia was on the verge of being annihilated by Croatia

(King Damir)


Your own Croat General Toli himself said that they didnt take the eastern Slavonia because they feared it would trigger conflict with the Yugoslav army, 150,000 Croats vs 50,000 Poorly armed Krajina Serbs is one thing, but 150,000 Croats vs the 200,000 strong, heavily armed Yugoslav army is another, so dont give us the bs that the HV could of taken Serbia

SCP UK

pre 12 godina

@adrian

Wow your ignorance of the social situation in Bosnia really highlights your stupidity and the fact that you have completely missed the point.

sj

pre 12 godina

(King Damir, 21 November 2011 20:19)


“Especially, since serbia was on the verge of being annihilated by Croatia with some help from federation troops in central Bosnia.”

As the years go by the legend gets better with the telling about glorious Croat and Bosniak troops defeating the Serbs. Its like the fish that got away – it gets bigger and better with the telling and very soon the fish is bigger than a house.

Didn’t your Croats kill and even burn alive some of your Bosniak allies in central Bosnia? Or was that Milosevic’s’s fault again eh?


“With US blessing because serbia had english, dutch, french, and italian support, Croatia finaally let the lions loose”.

This part is a treasure, best laugh I have had in a long time.


“How can the West let 4 years of serbia aggression go, but threaten Croatia with bombing if they did not halt their offensive The first time it was shown that serbia, the bigger better equipped team, could not win and the game is cancelled due to weather.”

If no one has explained this to you let me fill in the blanks. When that great Croat/Bosnaik offensive began it was only after Dayton was signed and the Serbs troops pulled out of those areas designated as part of the federation and if they went any further it would have brought in Serbia into the war and you and your Croats would be swimming in the Adriatic Sea.

Has it not dawned on you that neither Croatia nor the Bosniaks could do a thing for so many years until Dayton was signed?

“the Croatian military could have done that also and Bosnia would not be the basket case it is today”


Is this the same great Croat army that closes it barracks during winter to save money? or is it the one where they have to wait for months for spare parts to repair their vehicles or is it the one where navy vessels are rotting in docks unable to buy fuel or spare parts?.

Stop watching Franjo Tudgman propaganda films – they were bad to say the least.

???

pre 12 godina

The big thing this agreement accomplished was to stop the bloodshed, but the Croatian military could have done that also and Bosnia would not be the basket case it is today.
(King Damir, 21 November 2011 20:19)

if that were the case you would have been able to defend vukovar and not call the the us for help in invading krajina.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

serbia was on the verge of being annihilated by Croatia

(King Damir)

What??? A link, please. I read that Bosniak-Croatian troops tried to take Banja Luka, but they were not allowed, since the West worried about Serbia's direct involvement in the war if it had happened.

But I never read Croatia could annihilate Serbia.

adrian

pre 12 godina

You know the funny part is that to an objective person there is absolutely no difference in the way you Serbs whether of Catholic Orthodox or Islamic faith look, smell,sound,talk or act so all this Balkan nonsense was really a big domestic civil fight between retarded family members.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

According to YU constitution, Bosnia was a republic of three peoples - Bosniaks, Serbs and Croats. Decision about separation from YU should have been made only if majority of all three communities had agreed to it.

King Damir

pre 12 godina

The dayton agreement is only celebrated in RS because it only benefited the serbs, benefited them legally for their aggression by giving them half of Bosnia, milosevic was very happy on this day. Especially, since serbia was on the verge of being annihilated by Croatia with some help from federation troops in central Bosnia. After punishing serbia with only an economic embargo the West continued to allow serbia to attack, destroy, steal and rape inside Croatia and Bosnia for 4 years, hoping that the new democracies of Croatia and Bosnia would fall. When they didn't, the West had to change their position and start supporting the new democracies with token gestures like dropping food in to the safe havens from 3000 feet. When Bihac, another safe haven after Srebenica, was on the verge of starvation and about to fall after years of isolation and a brave defense by the people of Bihac to say the least, the world did nothing. Croatia could not stand to see the world allowing genocide again, and finally had enough. With US blessing because serbia had english, dutch, french, and italian support, Croatia finaally let the lions loose. The gift for serbia and RS which stands for Real Sham, I'm being nice, once it was about to collapse, your western friends came to your rescue with this dayton agreement to stop the Croatian offesnsive and reward you with territory that was illegally taken to begin with. How can the West let 4 years of serbia aggression go, but threaten Croatia with bombing if they did not halt their offensive. The first time it was shown that serbia, the bigger better equipped team, could not win and the game is cancelled due to weather. Serbia should never bad mouth the USA or Western Europe because in the end they saved you and that is why RS celebrates this Real Sham of an agreement. The big thing this agreement accomplished was to stop the bloodshed, but the Croatian military could have done that also and Bosnia would not be the basket case it is today.

Lenard

pre 12 godina

RS President Milorad Dodik said on the occasion that the Dayton peace deal was one of the most successful such agreement in recent political history, adding that it would be "very difficult to sustain Bosnia-Herzegovina today, even with the pressure from the international community, if there were no Dayton Agreement". What a forkt tongue Dodik I guess it is to hold the minority Serbs of Bosnia in a trance and in unreality as long as possible. The world and your neighbours see a totally different reality. Like this http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorialopinion/article/1089460--siddiqui-long-balkan-endgame-feeds-insecurity no one has forgotten who are responsible and were the cause of all the warmongering vile evil yes keep dancing your jig in make believe "Srpska" aka Greater Serbia. As time runs out for Serbia and Serbs to do the rite just things no one is buying Serb self inflicted delusions.

RBIH

pre 12 godina

To the Dayton ruling elite, the occupiers and traitors of the Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina,
I wish you to congratulate you all on the Dayton Disagreement. Maybe you all live a long life in pain and misery and hopefully you die in the most painful way possible.

RBIH

pre 12 godina

To the Dayton ruling elite, the occupiers and traitors of the Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina,
I wish you to congratulate you all on the Dayton Disagreement. Maybe you all live a long life in pain and misery and hopefully you die in the most painful way possible.

King Damir

pre 12 godina

The dayton agreement is only celebrated in RS because it only benefited the serbs, benefited them legally for their aggression by giving them half of Bosnia, milosevic was very happy on this day. Especially, since serbia was on the verge of being annihilated by Croatia with some help from federation troops in central Bosnia. After punishing serbia with only an economic embargo the West continued to allow serbia to attack, destroy, steal and rape inside Croatia and Bosnia for 4 years, hoping that the new democracies of Croatia and Bosnia would fall. When they didn't, the West had to change their position and start supporting the new democracies with token gestures like dropping food in to the safe havens from 3000 feet. When Bihac, another safe haven after Srebenica, was on the verge of starvation and about to fall after years of isolation and a brave defense by the people of Bihac to say the least, the world did nothing. Croatia could not stand to see the world allowing genocide again, and finally had enough. With US blessing because serbia had english, dutch, french, and italian support, Croatia finaally let the lions loose. The gift for serbia and RS which stands for Real Sham, I'm being nice, once it was about to collapse, your western friends came to your rescue with this dayton agreement to stop the Croatian offesnsive and reward you with territory that was illegally taken to begin with. How can the West let 4 years of serbia aggression go, but threaten Croatia with bombing if they did not halt their offensive. The first time it was shown that serbia, the bigger better equipped team, could not win and the game is cancelled due to weather. Serbia should never bad mouth the USA or Western Europe because in the end they saved you and that is why RS celebrates this Real Sham of an agreement. The big thing this agreement accomplished was to stop the bloodshed, but the Croatian military could have done that also and Bosnia would not be the basket case it is today.

Lenard

pre 12 godina

RS President Milorad Dodik said on the occasion that the Dayton peace deal was one of the most successful such agreement in recent political history, adding that it would be "very difficult to sustain Bosnia-Herzegovina today, even with the pressure from the international community, if there were no Dayton Agreement". What a forkt tongue Dodik I guess it is to hold the minority Serbs of Bosnia in a trance and in unreality as long as possible. The world and your neighbours see a totally different reality. Like this http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorialopinion/article/1089460--siddiqui-long-balkan-endgame-feeds-insecurity no one has forgotten who are responsible and were the cause of all the warmongering vile evil yes keep dancing your jig in make believe "Srpska" aka Greater Serbia. As time runs out for Serbia and Serbs to do the rite just things no one is buying Serb self inflicted delusions.

sj

pre 12 godina

(King Damir, 21 November 2011 20:19)


“Especially, since serbia was on the verge of being annihilated by Croatia with some help from federation troops in central Bosnia.”

As the years go by the legend gets better with the telling about glorious Croat and Bosniak troops defeating the Serbs. Its like the fish that got away – it gets bigger and better with the telling and very soon the fish is bigger than a house.

Didn’t your Croats kill and even burn alive some of your Bosniak allies in central Bosnia? Or was that Milosevic’s’s fault again eh?


“With US blessing because serbia had english, dutch, french, and italian support, Croatia finaally let the lions loose”.

This part is a treasure, best laugh I have had in a long time.


“How can the West let 4 years of serbia aggression go, but threaten Croatia with bombing if they did not halt their offensive The first time it was shown that serbia, the bigger better equipped team, could not win and the game is cancelled due to weather.”

If no one has explained this to you let me fill in the blanks. When that great Croat/Bosnaik offensive began it was only after Dayton was signed and the Serbs troops pulled out of those areas designated as part of the federation and if they went any further it would have brought in Serbia into the war and you and your Croats would be swimming in the Adriatic Sea.

Has it not dawned on you that neither Croatia nor the Bosniaks could do a thing for so many years until Dayton was signed?

“the Croatian military could have done that also and Bosnia would not be the basket case it is today”


Is this the same great Croat army that closes it barracks during winter to save money? or is it the one where they have to wait for months for spare parts to repair their vehicles or is it the one where navy vessels are rotting in docks unable to buy fuel or spare parts?.

Stop watching Franjo Tudgman propaganda films – they were bad to say the least.

???

pre 12 godina

The big thing this agreement accomplished was to stop the bloodshed, but the Croatian military could have done that also and Bosnia would not be the basket case it is today.
(King Damir, 21 November 2011 20:19)

if that were the case you would have been able to defend vukovar and not call the the us for help in invading krajina.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

serbia was on the verge of being annihilated by Croatia

(King Damir)

What??? A link, please. I read that Bosniak-Croatian troops tried to take Banja Luka, but they were not allowed, since the West worried about Serbia's direct involvement in the war if it had happened.

But I never read Croatia could annihilate Serbia.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

According to YU constitution, Bosnia was a republic of three peoples - Bosniaks, Serbs and Croats. Decision about separation from YU should have been made only if majority of all three communities had agreed to it.

adrian

pre 12 godina

You know the funny part is that to an objective person there is absolutely no difference in the way you Serbs whether of Catholic Orthodox or Islamic faith look, smell,sound,talk or act so all this Balkan nonsense was really a big domestic civil fight between retarded family members.

New Zealander

pre 12 godina

serbia was on the verge of being annihilated by Croatia

(King Damir)


Your own Croat General Toli himself said that they didnt take the eastern Slavonia because they feared it would trigger conflict with the Yugoslav army, 150,000 Croats vs 50,000 Poorly armed Krajina Serbs is one thing, but 150,000 Croats vs the 200,000 strong, heavily armed Yugoslav army is another, so dont give us the bs that the HV could of taken Serbia

Lenard

pre 12 godina

sj As the years go by the legend gets better with the telling about glorious Croat and Bosniak troops defeating the Serbs. Its like the fish that got away – it gets bigger and better with the telling and very soon the fish is bigger than a house. Sj Damir is rite a 3rd echelon Croatian 204th brigade stopped Serbia's best brigades troops for 3 months at the border. Out numbered 20 to 1 in manpower low in ammunition no tanks heavy ,artillery or fighter planes which Serbia had 600 tanks on the battle field ,artillery galore ,fighter aircraft in the 100s Serbia stole. Same in Bosnia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mistral 2 Croatian brigades took on 10 Serb brigades pushed them back 100s of kilometres with heavy mauling of the Serb brigades to Banja Luka. Which are only good at criminally murdering ethnic cleansing unarmed civilians the Serb pathetic brigades.

SCP UK

pre 12 godina

@adrian

Wow your ignorance of the social situation in Bosnia really highlights your stupidity and the fact that you have completely missed the point.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

It gets bigger and better as the years go on. By 2020 the Croat Armies will have conquered all of Europe and half of Asia.
(sj, 22 November 2011 22:59)

LOL by that point, Nazi Germany would have been a puppet state of the NDH, and Venice would be a colony of Dubrovnik :)

sj

pre 12 godina

(Lenard, 22 November 2011 10:24)


Its politics that made this happen not the mighty Croats army. Where do you people live; some rustic backward community where a radio is a luxury?

“Same in Bosnia [link] 2 Croatian brigades took on 10 Serb brigades pushed them back 100s of kilometres with heavy mauling of the Serb brigades to Banja Luka. Which are only good at criminally murdering ethnic cleansing unarmed civilians the Serb pathetic brigades.”

You mean the Bihac offensive, well that happened after Dayton was signed and its funny how they stopped at the agreed lines???hmm? It’s not because of the mighty Croat army. In fact I have more respect for the Bosniaks than your lot because when Croats attacked them they were on their knees, but they fought back and would have wiped your cowards out if mother US did not stop them.

It gets bigger and better as the years go on. By 2020 the Croat Armies will have conquered all of Europe and half of Asia.

King Damir

pre 12 godina

The dayton agreement is only celebrated in RS because it only benefited the serbs, benefited them legally for their aggression by giving them half of Bosnia, milosevic was very happy on this day. Especially, since serbia was on the verge of being annihilated by Croatia with some help from federation troops in central Bosnia. After punishing serbia with only an economic embargo the West continued to allow serbia to attack, destroy, steal and rape inside Croatia and Bosnia for 4 years, hoping that the new democracies of Croatia and Bosnia would fall. When they didn't, the West had to change their position and start supporting the new democracies with token gestures like dropping food in to the safe havens from 3000 feet. When Bihac, another safe haven after Srebenica, was on the verge of starvation and about to fall after years of isolation and a brave defense by the people of Bihac to say the least, the world did nothing. Croatia could not stand to see the world allowing genocide again, and finally had enough. With US blessing because serbia had english, dutch, french, and italian support, Croatia finaally let the lions loose. The gift for serbia and RS which stands for Real Sham, I'm being nice, once it was about to collapse, your western friends came to your rescue with this dayton agreement to stop the Croatian offesnsive and reward you with territory that was illegally taken to begin with. How can the West let 4 years of serbia aggression go, but threaten Croatia with bombing if they did not halt their offensive. The first time it was shown that serbia, the bigger better equipped team, could not win and the game is cancelled due to weather. Serbia should never bad mouth the USA or Western Europe because in the end they saved you and that is why RS celebrates this Real Sham of an agreement. The big thing this agreement accomplished was to stop the bloodshed, but the Croatian military could have done that also and Bosnia would not be the basket case it is today.

Lenard

pre 12 godina

RS President Milorad Dodik said on the occasion that the Dayton peace deal was one of the most successful such agreement in recent political history, adding that it would be "very difficult to sustain Bosnia-Herzegovina today, even with the pressure from the international community, if there were no Dayton Agreement". What a forkt tongue Dodik I guess it is to hold the minority Serbs of Bosnia in a trance and in unreality as long as possible. The world and your neighbours see a totally different reality. Like this http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorialopinion/article/1089460--siddiqui-long-balkan-endgame-feeds-insecurity no one has forgotten who are responsible and were the cause of all the warmongering vile evil yes keep dancing your jig in make believe "Srpska" aka Greater Serbia. As time runs out for Serbia and Serbs to do the rite just things no one is buying Serb self inflicted delusions.

sj

pre 12 godina

(King Damir, 21 November 2011 20:19)


“Especially, since serbia was on the verge of being annihilated by Croatia with some help from federation troops in central Bosnia.”

As the years go by the legend gets better with the telling about glorious Croat and Bosniak troops defeating the Serbs. Its like the fish that got away – it gets bigger and better with the telling and very soon the fish is bigger than a house.

Didn’t your Croats kill and even burn alive some of your Bosniak allies in central Bosnia? Or was that Milosevic’s’s fault again eh?


“With US blessing because serbia had english, dutch, french, and italian support, Croatia finaally let the lions loose”.

This part is a treasure, best laugh I have had in a long time.


“How can the West let 4 years of serbia aggression go, but threaten Croatia with bombing if they did not halt their offensive The first time it was shown that serbia, the bigger better equipped team, could not win and the game is cancelled due to weather.”

If no one has explained this to you let me fill in the blanks. When that great Croat/Bosnaik offensive began it was only after Dayton was signed and the Serbs troops pulled out of those areas designated as part of the federation and if they went any further it would have brought in Serbia into the war and you and your Croats would be swimming in the Adriatic Sea.

Has it not dawned on you that neither Croatia nor the Bosniaks could do a thing for so many years until Dayton was signed?

“the Croatian military could have done that also and Bosnia would not be the basket case it is today”


Is this the same great Croat army that closes it barracks during winter to save money? or is it the one where they have to wait for months for spare parts to repair their vehicles or is it the one where navy vessels are rotting in docks unable to buy fuel or spare parts?.

Stop watching Franjo Tudgman propaganda films – they were bad to say the least.

RBIH

pre 12 godina

To the Dayton ruling elite, the occupiers and traitors of the Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina,
I wish you to congratulate you all on the Dayton Disagreement. Maybe you all live a long life in pain and misery and hopefully you die in the most painful way possible.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

According to YU constitution, Bosnia was a republic of three peoples - Bosniaks, Serbs and Croats. Decision about separation from YU should have been made only if majority of all three communities had agreed to it.

New Zealander

pre 12 godina

serbia was on the verge of being annihilated by Croatia

(King Damir)


Your own Croat General Toli himself said that they didnt take the eastern Slavonia because they feared it would trigger conflict with the Yugoslav army, 150,000 Croats vs 50,000 Poorly armed Krajina Serbs is one thing, but 150,000 Croats vs the 200,000 strong, heavily armed Yugoslav army is another, so dont give us the bs that the HV could of taken Serbia

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

serbia was on the verge of being annihilated by Croatia

(King Damir)

What??? A link, please. I read that Bosniak-Croatian troops tried to take Banja Luka, but they were not allowed, since the West worried about Serbia's direct involvement in the war if it had happened.

But I never read Croatia could annihilate Serbia.

adrian

pre 12 godina

You know the funny part is that to an objective person there is absolutely no difference in the way you Serbs whether of Catholic Orthodox or Islamic faith look, smell,sound,talk or act so all this Balkan nonsense was really a big domestic civil fight between retarded family members.

sj

pre 12 godina

(Lenard, 22 November 2011 10:24)


Its politics that made this happen not the mighty Croats army. Where do you people live; some rustic backward community where a radio is a luxury?

“Same in Bosnia [link] 2 Croatian brigades took on 10 Serb brigades pushed them back 100s of kilometres with heavy mauling of the Serb brigades to Banja Luka. Which are only good at criminally murdering ethnic cleansing unarmed civilians the Serb pathetic brigades.”

You mean the Bihac offensive, well that happened after Dayton was signed and its funny how they stopped at the agreed lines???hmm? It’s not because of the mighty Croat army. In fact I have more respect for the Bosniaks than your lot because when Croats attacked them they were on their knees, but they fought back and would have wiped your cowards out if mother US did not stop them.

It gets bigger and better as the years go on. By 2020 the Croat Armies will have conquered all of Europe and half of Asia.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

It gets bigger and better as the years go on. By 2020 the Croat Armies will have conquered all of Europe and half of Asia.
(sj, 22 November 2011 22:59)

LOL by that point, Nazi Germany would have been a puppet state of the NDH, and Venice would be a colony of Dubrovnik :)

???

pre 12 godina

The big thing this agreement accomplished was to stop the bloodshed, but the Croatian military could have done that also and Bosnia would not be the basket case it is today.
(King Damir, 21 November 2011 20:19)

if that were the case you would have been able to defend vukovar and not call the the us for help in invading krajina.

SCP UK

pre 12 godina

@adrian

Wow your ignorance of the social situation in Bosnia really highlights your stupidity and the fact that you have completely missed the point.

Lenard

pre 12 godina

sj As the years go by the legend gets better with the telling about glorious Croat and Bosniak troops defeating the Serbs. Its like the fish that got away – it gets bigger and better with the telling and very soon the fish is bigger than a house. Sj Damir is rite a 3rd echelon Croatian 204th brigade stopped Serbia's best brigades troops for 3 months at the border. Out numbered 20 to 1 in manpower low in ammunition no tanks heavy ,artillery or fighter planes which Serbia had 600 tanks on the battle field ,artillery galore ,fighter aircraft in the 100s Serbia stole. Same in Bosnia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mistral 2 Croatian brigades took on 10 Serb brigades pushed them back 100s of kilometres with heavy mauling of the Serb brigades to Banja Luka. Which are only good at criminally murdering ethnic cleansing unarmed civilians the Serb pathetic brigades.