UN: Serbs, Albanians not ready for common life

after serving with our unit in Kosovo - I wouldn`t live next to albanians either- with serbs, on contrary, without problems. I could even stand russians (though they misbehave in Estonia exactly like albanians in Serbia) over any albanian. The only thing is I only encountered muslim albos, might be that christian albanians are at least more prone to understand that their historical Code is for selfish and narrow-minded creatures. I would say KiM albanians are exactly like turks or muslim arabs...and non of european has anything common with them. Albanians -more tolerance and less supremacy driven behaviour. Kosovo is not yours - historical bulidings prove that.

I would say KiM albanians are exactly like turks or muslim arabs...and non of european has anything common with them. Albanians -more tolerance and less supremacy driven behaviour. Kosovo is not yours - historical bulidings prove that.
(an estonian, 20 November 2011 13:42)

"muslim arabs"?
Serbia is in love with your muslim arabs, and you should do some research to see how many muslim arab countries have recognized Kosova even though everyone thought that arab muslims will be the first to recognize Kosova.
I personally don't give a hoot about any arabs. Their recognition is just a number for me and nothing else. You should check the relationship that Serbia has with them, and than make a silly comments.

We will be ready when Albanians stop trying to finish stealing land that they started stealing when they were Number 1 Turkish ally, when they stop faking an 'Illyrian' origin and when they admit Skenderbeg was of Serb descent and pro-Serb orientation. And it would help if they stop with international sex, weapons and drug trafficking to!

"A huge majority of Serbs and Albanians in Kosovo are not ready to work together and live in the same streets, United Nations Development Program (UNDP) says."

A HUGE majority you say? Then why make them live together in the never never land prescribed by the West -- the multiethnic "paradise" of "Kosova"? Easy for the West to dictate conditions for others that they themselves don't have to face on a daily basis.

UN: Serbs, Albanians not ready for common life

What a great discovery... I would say the discovery of the century...

"The only thing is I only encountered muslim albos, might be that christian albanians are at least more prone to understand that their historical Code is for selfish and narrow-minded creatures."

Creatures? Your unit wasn't just by chance the 20th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS (1st Estonian)?

I could even stand russians (though they misbehave in Estonia exactly like albanians in Serbia) over any albanian.
(an estonian)

How very touching of you :)

"Kosovo is not yours - historical bulidings prove that.
(an estonian, 20 November 2011 13:42)"

Does the name Livland ring a bell to you? And now Mr. estonian tell me what is yours!

Thank you, an Estonian, for your observations and comments. You understand the Serbs and Albanians very well, as well as the attempted theft of the Serb Province of Kosovo. UNSC Resolution 1244 governs and it holds Kosovo to be part of Serbia. I am ultimately confident that Europeans will respect international law, as you do. As we know, Kosovo will never be a UN member or EU member: it's illegitimate.

"Indeed, that's plain stupid. Serb-majority areas in Kosovo bordering Serbia should go under Serbia and Albanian-majority areas in Serbia bordering Kosovo should go under Kosovo and everybody is happy. The rest of Albanians/Serbs have to move if they don't want to live with the majority.
(icj1, 20 November 2011 14:46) "

My goodness! icj1 and I actually can agree, more or less, on something! What's the world coming to?

Methinks the only plausible reason why the West are not agreeable to this sensible solution is because they needed troubled waters to fish in -- otherwise they will be left high and dry. :)

icj,

Try to learn it one by one. Let's hope it will be easier for you.

1.In March 2008, Mourad Medelci, Foreign Affairs Minister, stated that while Algeria sympathised with all Muslim countries, it believed that international laws had to be adhered to.[106] A year later, Medelci reaffirmed the Algerian position of Kosovo being an integral part of Serbia.[107] In May 2009, the Ambassador of Algeria to Serbia, Abdelkader Mesdoua stated that Algeria would reconsider the issue of Kosovo if Serbia changed its own position.[108]

So, Algeria doesn't recognize independent Kosovo.

Estonian, thank you for being honest. And, please, answer the question, why 70% of russian population of Ukraine voted for Ukranian independence, the result definitely imposible for the same population in Estonia?
Are they different Russians, or, there is something else?
Thanks again, Russian, proud citizen of Ukraine.

Funny survey. I wonder how high the percentage of Albanians would have been who

- say that vandalizing Serbian cemeteries is okay
- say that stoning cars and buses with Serbs in it is okay
- say that looting Serbian churches and monasteries is okay

A HUGE majority you say? Then why make them live together in the never never land prescribed by the West -- the multiethnic "paradise" of "Kosova"? Easy for the West to dictate conditions for others that they themselves don't have to face on a daily basis.
(lowe, 20 November 2011 13:46)

Indeed, that's plain stupid. Serb-majority areas in Kosovo bordering Serbia should go under Serbia and Albanian-majority areas in Serbia bordering Kosovo should go under Kosovo and everybody is happy. The rest of Albanians/Serbs have to move if they don't want to live with the majority.

Curious how most people who experience Albanian behaviour first hand and over a period of time, such as the Estonian, and who have no axe to grind come to realise quite rapidly what they're dealing with. The Serbs have had to endure this kind of aggression and criminality for an awfully long time. Long before Milosevic ever appeared on the scene. The attitude has always been, we will squeeze you out no matter how long it takes. There is no co-existence. This has nothing to do with stereotypes or prejudice. This has been the Albanian agenda since they first set foot on Serbian land. Move in. Take over. Steal. period.

This summer Kosovo Muslims gathered for Friday prayers in the street as a sign of protest against what they said was the lack of space to pray, and want the authorities to build a bigger mosque in Pristina.

http://www.2space.net/news/article/366077-1309529401/

Not so secular and growing in number.
Wonder how the majority of Americans would feel if they knew that their tax dollars, marked as foreign aid, could be used to build mosques?

"During the Livonian Crusade, ancient Livonia was colonized by the Livonian Brothers of the Sword, later called the Livonian Order, and the name Livonia came to designate a much broader territory: : Terra Mariana on the eastern coasts of the Baltic Sea, in present-day Latvia and Estonia."

But what do I, a simple Martian, know about your Estonian history?

Regarding your capital: "In 1285 the city became the northernmost member of the Hanseatic League – a mercantile and military alliance of German-dominated cities in Northern Europe. The Danes sold Tallinn along with their other land possessions in northern Estonia to the Teutonic Knights in 1346. Medieval Tallinn enjoyed a strategic position at the crossroads of trade between Western and Northern Europe and Russia. The city, with a population of 8,000, was very well fortified with city walls and 66 defence towers.
With the start of the Protestant Reformation the German influence became even stronger as the city was converted to Lutheranism. (...) It was not until the mid-19th century that ethnic Estonians replaced the local Baltic Germans as the majority amongst the residents of Tallinn."

Following your logic this proves that Tallinn is not yours - historical bulidings prove that.

Does the name Livland rings a bell - yes it rings, cause it origins from finno-ugric tribe, who inhabited nowadays latvia (north with Riga and Courland) whose language was sth in btw est and finnish. though, they sided very fast with german crusaders and eventually turned into latvians, germans etc.
Est 20.waffen ss division - read the history over here, that is pretty much true http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20th_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_(1st_Estonian)
as smb has said that imagine what russians managed to do within 1 year , from 1940-41, so that estonians preferred their 700 yrs old enemies - german landlords to fight with. during our independece war 1918-20 we beat both red russians and germans, and if you, a Martian, knew the history a bit better - in Tsarist Russia german was official language in Estland and Livland Governorates up to the end of 19 century, when their last tsar started his russification campaign which caused also fierce disagreement in Finland, at this time a part of Russia.
my grandfather died at Mauthausen 3 weeks before yankees liberatied it - he evaded 1944 german mobilisation as russian in 1941, my step -grnadfather volunteered for German units in 1941 because withdrawing russians killed his parents and he survived by running into forest in underwear. that is a resent history of many estonians.
to mr Kelmendi - i have served in lebanon and syria and i tell you - muslim albanians are EXACTLY like muslim arabs. the same you can say about bolsheviks disregarding ethnicity - their ideology was by the way more progressive than some certain "religion of peace".
to a russian from Ukraine - the problem is that estonian russians - 95 % of whom have brough in after WWII or are their descendants - do not want to learn estonian cause the think they are better than owners of the land they live in - isn`t it a similarity with kosovo albanians(illyrians)?
Last thing - if kosovo albanians were orthdox christians and told me that they built those churches and monasteries under the command of Serb landlords - then it may sound plausible - like it is in estonia. But I believe you were brought in by turks - that is why you do not have any physical historical proof to claim others`land.
Hope, one day Serbia gets back what is her, and you albanians will be turned back where you are coming from - I do not think anyone in this world would approve kleptoparasitism.

icj,

Try to learn it one by one. Let's hope it will be easier for you.

1.In March 2008, Mourad Medelci, Foreign Affairs Minister, stated that while Algeria sympathised with all Muslim countries, it believed that international laws had to be adhered to.[106] A year later, Medelci reaffirmed the Algerian position of Kosovo being an integral part of Serbia.[107] In May 2009, the Ambassador of Algeria to Serbia, Abdelkader Mesdoua stated that Algeria would reconsider the issue of Kosovo if Serbia changed its own position.[108]

So, Algeria doesn't recognize independent Kosovo.
(aaayyy, 20 November 2011 19:55)

Yes, we are much clear now. You are starting to make some progress. Other 92 to go...

Well what gave it away? The numerous murders of Serbs by the Albanian "neighbors". Why would anyone want to live with this criminals. All they know is crime.

This guy an estonian is probably a russian estonian thats why is more serb than serbs.I have meet several estonians and they were friendly to me and other albanians so what this'an russian estonian" is saying is garbage.
FYI estonia was one of the first countries to recognise Kosova.

to estonian,

You might have spent time in Kosovo but you have obviously failed to understand anthyng about albanians. If you had informed yourself correctly before posting prejudiced comments, you would know that the albanian culture and traditions were formed and developed way before islam took hold in the region. The Code that you refer to (which i assume you are refering to Kanun was written by Lek Dugagjini, who was a roman catholic).


Having spent time in Kosovo, you should have also realised that albanians are one of the most secular socities in the world. It is usually the serbs that bring up religion - to us it makes no difference whatsoever. Whilts in no way am I justifiying attacks on serbian churches - these attacks happened because the serbian church represents an institution which has continuanlly promoted and influced anti-albanian policies - they were not attacked because they represent a different religion.

Lastly, the above is not meant as an argument to change your opinion - you are free to wish to live next to whomever you wish.

unfortunately u r not right
(to a Martian, 21 November 2011 17:51)

You should direct your complaints to Wikipedia. Feel free to rectify the articles concerned.

"A huge majority of Serbs and Albanians in Kosovo are not ready to work together and live in the same streets, United Nations Development Program (UNDP) says."

The so called Kosovo UDI project of the WEST is the "main cause" of this continued division of Serbs and Albanians in Kosovo province. instead of promoting genuine reconcilation. what the WEST did is partition Serbia and try to remove Kosovo.

''...This has been the Albanian agenda since they first set foot on Serbian land. Move in. Take over. Steal. period...''
(PEN, 21 November 2011 12:49)
Date please.Will u be able to provide some exact date when Albanians ''set foot on Serbian land''.
Otherwise,it is called PROPOGANDA

It was our idiotic government who recognised "Kosova" not the people, in order to please Brussels, most of our troops would choose Serbs over Albanians at any time. And as far as I know I have no blood-line connected to any russian...LOL.Strange that you cannot take any kind of critique, too big EGO you people have down there. Those estonians are just politically correct or antoher thing- as you are from Albania and not from occupied Kosovo - then I would not have anything against you either, though it seems from your comments you are still into albanians`exclusivness. By the way I have discussed those so called minority questions with estonan-russian human rights lawers on Kremlin payroll and they support you - it means illegal secession - because they know that they are in estonia like albanians in KiM - intruders, and once wanted to create a little "Kosova" here as well.
Regarding albanians secularism - ok, you destroy alien power institutions but why then do you cover Kosovo with newly-built mosques, accept islamic money? are you selling your secularity for bloody islamic money?that is nonsense - u just try to show that u r not interested in "religion of peace" `cause u know that life is not getting sweeter for muslim immigrants in europe - multiculti ist kaputt as frau Menkel has said - though, lefties are imposing heavy pressure on indigeous with bolsheviks slogans about friendship and unity.
just briefly surfed on the Net and found another proof about "secularsim" among Albanians - soon the heads are gonna roll - either for money, drugs or just because Canun says so.
http://actuajihad.wordpress.com/2006/04/03/albanian-muslims-against-a-statue-honoring-mother-theresa/


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/alb-muslimnews/message/2989

...and what percentage of them would agree to share the same planet with the other people? what about the same Universe?

icj,

I've tried very hard, but haven't found the document which says that the US recognizes the village Komarovo as a part of Russia. Also I haven't found any US statement which says the US doesn't recognize the village Komarovo as independent state. Your conclusions?

"We will be ready when Albanians stop trying to finish stealing land that they started stealing when they were Number 1 Turkish ally, when they stop faking an 'Illyrian' origin and when they admit Skenderbeg was of Serb descent and pro-Serb orientation."

This comment here proves beyond any doubt that the person who posted it, is stuck in the Ottoman Empire still. Why on Io would Skenderbeg's family origin be of precondition to establish good relations? Why?

"As i recall even turkish sources counted more Serbs than albanians in Kosovo after they had conquered Kosovo. "

Which sources would those be and in which year? Seriously do people on here ever think before writing stupidity?

What is it with these religious points? Have I stumbled on the Orthodox-Slavic-Brotherhood or something? I love how people on here reason, the Serbs were first apparently. Let us for a moment say it is true (it isn't but we'll leave that for now), there were Romans living in Kosovo and in Serbia proper when the Slavs came to Europe in the first place, so you know you usurped it from somebody else to begin with

I've tried very hard, but haven't found the document which says that the US recognizes the village Komarovo as a part of Russia. Also I haven't found any US statement which says the US doesn't recognize the village Komarovo as independent state. Your conclusions?
(aaayyy, 20 November 2011 21:59)

My conclusions about what ? what's your question ?

unfortunately u r not right - Livs were finno-ugric tribes who inhabited, as I said, more than half of nowadays Latvia - german crusaders took at first livs and later latgallian(latvians) part, but they got beaten by lithuanians - Livland was clearly delineated piece of land.
Tallinn (it comes from old estonian - danish town) was seized by danish crusaders in 1219 (consequently danes were killed in 1343 uprising and their king sold his lands to germans) and they built their castle at a site of estonian fortress Lindanise - there was a battle where their present flag - Dannebrog - fell from the sky in the critical moment of the battle to help them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Denmark. So the stone-town was built by estonians for the intruders (like turks and albanians forced Serbs to build their mosques)- that is written in german-danish chronicles.
all the castles and churches were built by ESTONIANS who eventually accepted Christianity - that is written in every medieval source(german,danish, russian). And germans remained always a minority until in 1920 the land they were in possession of was nationalised and turned over to estonian peasants - exactly like the land Albanian muslim beys lost the land in 1918 they had seized thanks to Turks from Serbs. And now albanians spew gall about "injustice by Serbs who took their land".
Now tell me - where it is written that Serbs(Slavs) conquered albanians`s land in 7-8 century and enslaved them. As i recall even turkish sources counted more Serbs than albanians in Kosovo after they had conquered Kosovo. I know that some albos say that there were actually albanians counted for serbs - why the heck would "illyrians" allow themselves to be counted for some "savage" slav tribesmen - that goes against Albanians` behaviour and selfish logic.

I've tried very hard, but haven't found the document which says that the US recognizes the village Komarovo as a part of Russia. Also I haven't found any US statement which says the US doesn't recognize the village Komarovo as independent state. Your conclusions?
(aaayyy, 20 November 2011 21:59)

My conclusions about what ? what's your question ?
(icj1, 21 November 2011 17:54)

My question is: does the US recognize the vilage Komarovo as independent state? According to your previous "reasoning" it does. icj, aren't you tied of trolling?

I fully understand why u r given "thumbs" down - peace-loving Kosovo arabs are in fact secular and those news are obviuosly another attempt to smear their higly educated and democratic leaders among whose is Mullah Thaci, Mullah Jashari, Mullah Haliti...

who would like to live next to Albanians, or is it again MUP
http://www.eurasiareview.com/15112011-kosovo-police-beating-complaints-pile-up/

My question is: does the US recognize the vilage Komarovo as independent state? According to your previous "reasoning" it does. icj, aren't you tied of trolling?
(aaayyy, 21 November 2011 18:28)

No, which of my “reasoning” led you to that conclusion ? Can you please cite it ?

I still can’t answer your question as some additional information is needed. Does this village of Komarovo has expressed the desire of not being part of Russia ?

Also, what does it mean being “tied of trolling” :)

after serving with our unit in Kosovo - I wouldn`t live next to albanians either- with serbs, on contrary, without problems. I could even stand russians (though they misbehave in Estonia exactly like albanians in Serbia) over any albanian. The only thing is I only encountered muslim albos, might be that christian albanians are at least more prone to understand that their historical Code is for selfish and narrow-minded creatures. I would say KiM albanians are exactly like turks or muslim arabs...and non of european has anything common with them. Albanians -more tolerance and less supremacy driven behaviour. Kosovo is not yours - historical bulidings prove that.

I would say KiM albanians are exactly like turks or muslim arabs...and non of european has anything common with them. Albanians -more tolerance and less supremacy driven behaviour. Kosovo is not yours - historical bulidings prove that.
(an estonian, 20 November 2011 13:42)

"muslim arabs"?
Serbia is in love with your muslim arabs, and you should do some research to see how many muslim arab countries have recognized Kosova even though everyone thought that arab muslims will be the first to recognize Kosova.
I personally don't give a hoot about any arabs. Their recognition is just a number for me and nothing else. You should check the relationship that Serbia has with them, and than make a silly comments.

We will be ready when Albanians stop trying to finish stealing land that they started stealing when they were Number 1 Turkish ally, when they stop faking an 'Illyrian' origin and when they admit Skenderbeg was of Serb descent and pro-Serb orientation. And it would help if they stop with international sex, weapons and drug trafficking to!

A HUGE majority you say? Then why make them live together in the never never land prescribed by the West -- the multiethnic "paradise" of "Kosova"? Easy for the West to dictate conditions for others that they themselves don't have to face on a daily basis.
(lowe, 20 November 2011 13:46)

Indeed, that's plain stupid. Serb-majority areas in Kosovo bordering Serbia should go under Serbia and Albanian-majority areas in Serbia bordering Kosovo should go under Kosovo and everybody is happy. The rest of Albanians/Serbs have to move if they don't want to live with the majority.

"Kosovo is not yours - historical bulidings prove that.
(an estonian, 20 November 2011 13:42)"

Does the name Livland ring a bell to you? And now Mr. estonian tell me what is yours!

"A huge majority of Serbs and Albanians in Kosovo are not ready to work together and live in the same streets, United Nations Development Program (UNDP) says."

A HUGE majority you say? Then why make them live together in the never never land prescribed by the West -- the multiethnic "paradise" of "Kosova"? Easy for the West to dictate conditions for others that they themselves don't have to face on a daily basis.

Curious how most people who experience Albanian behaviour first hand and over a period of time, such as the Estonian, and who have no axe to grind come to realise quite rapidly what they're dealing with. The Serbs have had to endure this kind of aggression and criminality for an awfully long time. Long before Milosevic ever appeared on the scene. The attitude has always been, we will squeeze you out no matter how long it takes. There is no co-existence. This has nothing to do with stereotypes or prejudice. This has been the Albanian agenda since they first set foot on Serbian land. Move in. Take over. Steal. period.

"The only thing is I only encountered muslim albos, might be that christian albanians are at least more prone to understand that their historical Code is for selfish and narrow-minded creatures."

Creatures? Your unit wasn't just by chance the 20th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS (1st Estonian)?

Does the name Livland rings a bell - yes it rings, cause it origins from finno-ugric tribe, who inhabited nowadays latvia (north with Riga and Courland) whose language was sth in btw est and finnish. though, they sided very fast with german crusaders and eventually turned into latvians, germans etc.
Est 20.waffen ss division - read the history over here, that is pretty much true http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20th_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_(1st_Estonian)
as smb has said that imagine what russians managed to do within 1 year , from 1940-41, so that estonians preferred their 700 yrs old enemies - german landlords to fight with. during our independece war 1918-20 we beat both red russians and germans, and if you, a Martian, knew the history a bit better - in Tsarist Russia german was official language in Estland and Livland Governorates up to the end of 19 century, when their last tsar started his russification campaign which caused also fierce disagreement in Finland, at this time a part of Russia.
my grandfather died at Mauthausen 3 weeks before yankees liberatied it - he evaded 1944 german mobilisation as russian in 1941, my step -grnadfather volunteered for German units in 1941 because withdrawing russians killed his parents and he survived by running into forest in underwear. that is a resent history of many estonians.
to mr Kelmendi - i have served in lebanon and syria and i tell you - muslim albanians are EXACTLY like muslim arabs. the same you can say about bolsheviks disregarding ethnicity - their ideology was by the way more progressive than some certain "religion of peace".
to a russian from Ukraine - the problem is that estonian russians - 95 % of whom have brough in after WWII or are their descendants - do not want to learn estonian cause the think they are better than owners of the land they live in - isn`t it a similarity with kosovo albanians(illyrians)?
Last thing - if kosovo albanians were orthdox christians and told me that they built those churches and monasteries under the command of Serb landlords - then it may sound plausible - like it is in estonia. But I believe you were brought in by turks - that is why you do not have any physical historical proof to claim others`land.
Hope, one day Serbia gets back what is her, and you albanians will be turned back where you are coming from - I do not think anyone in this world would approve kleptoparasitism.

"Indeed, that's plain stupid. Serb-majority areas in Kosovo bordering Serbia should go under Serbia and Albanian-majority areas in Serbia bordering Kosovo should go under Kosovo and everybody is happy. The rest of Albanians/Serbs have to move if they don't want to live with the majority.
(icj1, 20 November 2011 14:46) "

My goodness! icj1 and I actually can agree, more or less, on something! What's the world coming to?

Methinks the only plausible reason why the West are not agreeable to this sensible solution is because they needed troubled waters to fish in -- otherwise they will be left high and dry. :)

Thank you, an Estonian, for your observations and comments. You understand the Serbs and Albanians very well, as well as the attempted theft of the Serb Province of Kosovo. UNSC Resolution 1244 governs and it holds Kosovo to be part of Serbia. I am ultimately confident that Europeans will respect international law, as you do. As we know, Kosovo will never be a UN member or EU member: it's illegitimate.

Well what gave it away? The numerous murders of Serbs by the Albanian "neighbors". Why would anyone want to live with this criminals. All they know is crime.

"A huge majority of Serbs and Albanians in Kosovo are not ready to work together and live in the same streets, United Nations Development Program (UNDP) says."

The so called Kosovo UDI project of the WEST is the "main cause" of this continued division of Serbs and Albanians in Kosovo province. instead of promoting genuine reconcilation. what the WEST did is partition Serbia and try to remove Kosovo.

unfortunately u r not right - Livs were finno-ugric tribes who inhabited, as I said, more than half of nowadays Latvia - german crusaders took at first livs and later latgallian(latvians) part, but they got beaten by lithuanians - Livland was clearly delineated piece of land.
Tallinn (it comes from old estonian - danish town) was seized by danish crusaders in 1219 (consequently danes were killed in 1343 uprising and their king sold his lands to germans) and they built their castle at a site of estonian fortress Lindanise - there was a battle where their present flag - Dannebrog - fell from the sky in the critical moment of the battle to help them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Denmark. So the stone-town was built by estonians for the intruders (like turks and albanians forced Serbs to build their mosques)- that is written in german-danish chronicles.
all the castles and churches were built by ESTONIANS who eventually accepted Christianity - that is written in every medieval source(german,danish, russian). And germans remained always a minority until in 1920 the land they were in possession of was nationalised and turned over to estonian peasants - exactly like the land Albanian muslim beys lost the land in 1918 they had seized thanks to Turks from Serbs. And now albanians spew gall about "injustice by Serbs who took their land".
Now tell me - where it is written that Serbs(Slavs) conquered albanians`s land in 7-8 century and enslaved them. As i recall even turkish sources counted more Serbs than albanians in Kosovo after they had conquered Kosovo. I know that some albos say that there were actually albanians counted for serbs - why the heck would "illyrians" allow themselves to be counted for some "savage" slav tribesmen - that goes against Albanians` behaviour and selfish logic.

This summer Kosovo Muslims gathered for Friday prayers in the street as a sign of protest against what they said was the lack of space to pray, and want the authorities to build a bigger mosque in Pristina.

http://www.2space.net/news/article/366077-1309529401/

Not so secular and growing in number.
Wonder how the majority of Americans would feel if they knew that their tax dollars, marked as foreign aid, could be used to build mosques?

I could even stand russians (though they misbehave in Estonia exactly like albanians in Serbia) over any albanian.
(an estonian)

How very touching of you :)

UN: Serbs, Albanians not ready for common life

What a great discovery... I would say the discovery of the century...

Funny survey. I wonder how high the percentage of Albanians would have been who

- say that vandalizing Serbian cemeteries is okay
- say that stoning cars and buses with Serbs in it is okay
- say that looting Serbian churches and monasteries is okay

...and what percentage of them would agree to share the same planet with the other people? what about the same Universe?

icj,

Try to learn it one by one. Let's hope it will be easier for you.

1.In March 2008, Mourad Medelci, Foreign Affairs Minister, stated that while Algeria sympathised with all Muslim countries, it believed that international laws had to be adhered to.[106] A year later, Medelci reaffirmed the Algerian position of Kosovo being an integral part of Serbia.[107] In May 2009, the Ambassador of Algeria to Serbia, Abdelkader Mesdoua stated that Algeria would reconsider the issue of Kosovo if Serbia changed its own position.[108]

So, Algeria doesn't recognize independent Kosovo.

"During the Livonian Crusade, ancient Livonia was colonized by the Livonian Brothers of the Sword, later called the Livonian Order, and the name Livonia came to designate a much broader territory: : Terra Mariana on the eastern coasts of the Baltic Sea, in present-day Latvia and Estonia."

But what do I, a simple Martian, know about your Estonian history?

Regarding your capital: "In 1285 the city became the northernmost member of the Hanseatic League – a mercantile and military alliance of German-dominated cities in Northern Europe. The Danes sold Tallinn along with their other land possessions in northern Estonia to the Teutonic Knights in 1346. Medieval Tallinn enjoyed a strategic position at the crossroads of trade between Western and Northern Europe and Russia. The city, with a population of 8,000, was very well fortified with city walls and 66 defence towers.
With the start of the Protestant Reformation the German influence became even stronger as the city was converted to Lutheranism. (...) It was not until the mid-19th century that ethnic Estonians replaced the local Baltic Germans as the majority amongst the residents of Tallinn."

Following your logic this proves that Tallinn is not yours - historical bulidings prove that.

It was our idiotic government who recognised "Kosova" not the people, in order to please Brussels, most of our troops would choose Serbs over Albanians at any time. And as far as I know I have no blood-line connected to any russian...LOL.Strange that you cannot take any kind of critique, too big EGO you people have down there. Those estonians are just politically correct or antoher thing- as you are from Albania and not from occupied Kosovo - then I would not have anything against you either, though it seems from your comments you are still into albanians`exclusivness. By the way I have discussed those so called minority questions with estonan-russian human rights lawers on Kremlin payroll and they support you - it means illegal secession - because they know that they are in estonia like albanians in KiM - intruders, and once wanted to create a little "Kosova" here as well.
Regarding albanians secularism - ok, you destroy alien power institutions but why then do you cover Kosovo with newly-built mosques, accept islamic money? are you selling your secularity for bloody islamic money?that is nonsense - u just try to show that u r not interested in "religion of peace" `cause u know that life is not getting sweeter for muslim immigrants in europe - multiculti ist kaputt as frau Menkel has said - though, lefties are imposing heavy pressure on indigeous with bolsheviks slogans about friendship and unity.
just briefly surfed on the Net and found another proof about "secularsim" among Albanians - soon the heads are gonna roll - either for money, drugs or just because Canun says so.
http://actuajihad.wordpress.com/2006/04/03/albanian-muslims-against-a-statue-honoring-mother-theresa/


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/alb-muslimnews/message/2989

Estonian, thank you for being honest. And, please, answer the question, why 70% of russian population of Ukraine voted for Ukranian independence, the result definitely imposible for the same population in Estonia?
Are they different Russians, or, there is something else?
Thanks again, Russian, proud citizen of Ukraine.

icj,

I've tried very hard, but haven't found the document which says that the US recognizes the village Komarovo as a part of Russia. Also I haven't found any US statement which says the US doesn't recognize the village Komarovo as independent state. Your conclusions?

to estonian,

You might have spent time in Kosovo but you have obviously failed to understand anthyng about albanians. If you had informed yourself correctly before posting prejudiced comments, you would know that the albanian culture and traditions were formed and developed way before islam took hold in the region. The Code that you refer to (which i assume you are refering to Kanun was written by Lek Dugagjini, who was a roman catholic).


Having spent time in Kosovo, you should have also realised that albanians are one of the most secular socities in the world. It is usually the serbs that bring up religion - to us it makes no difference whatsoever. Whilts in no way am I justifiying attacks on serbian churches - these attacks happened because the serbian church represents an institution which has continuanlly promoted and influced anti-albanian policies - they were not attacked because they represent a different religion.

Lastly, the above is not meant as an argument to change your opinion - you are free to wish to live next to whomever you wish.

"As i recall even turkish sources counted more Serbs than albanians in Kosovo after they had conquered Kosovo. "

Which sources would those be and in which year? Seriously do people on here ever think before writing stupidity?

What is it with these religious points? Have I stumbled on the Orthodox-Slavic-Brotherhood or something? I love how people on here reason, the Serbs were first apparently. Let us for a moment say it is true (it isn't but we'll leave that for now), there were Romans living in Kosovo and in Serbia proper when the Slavs came to Europe in the first place, so you know you usurped it from somebody else to begin with

I fully understand why u r given "thumbs" down - peace-loving Kosovo arabs are in fact secular and those news are obviuosly another attempt to smear their higly educated and democratic leaders among whose is Mullah Thaci, Mullah Jashari, Mullah Haliti...

icj,

Try to learn it one by one. Let's hope it will be easier for you.

1.In March 2008, Mourad Medelci, Foreign Affairs Minister, stated that while Algeria sympathised with all Muslim countries, it believed that international laws had to be adhered to.[106] A year later, Medelci reaffirmed the Algerian position of Kosovo being an integral part of Serbia.[107] In May 2009, the Ambassador of Algeria to Serbia, Abdelkader Mesdoua stated that Algeria would reconsider the issue of Kosovo if Serbia changed its own position.[108]

So, Algeria doesn't recognize independent Kosovo.
(aaayyy, 20 November 2011 19:55)

Yes, we are much clear now. You are starting to make some progress. Other 92 to go...

This guy an estonian is probably a russian estonian thats why is more serb than serbs.I have meet several estonians and they were friendly to me and other albanians so what this'an russian estonian" is saying is garbage.
FYI estonia was one of the first countries to recognise Kosova.

''...This has been the Albanian agenda since they first set foot on Serbian land. Move in. Take over. Steal. period...''
(PEN, 21 November 2011 12:49)
Date please.Will u be able to provide some exact date when Albanians ''set foot on Serbian land''.
Otherwise,it is called PROPOGANDA

I've tried very hard, but haven't found the document which says that the US recognizes the village Komarovo as a part of Russia. Also I haven't found any US statement which says the US doesn't recognize the village Komarovo as independent state. Your conclusions?
(aaayyy, 20 November 2011 21:59)

My conclusions about what ? what's your question ?

unfortunately u r not right
(to a Martian, 21 November 2011 17:51)

You should direct your complaints to Wikipedia. Feel free to rectify the articles concerned.

who would like to live next to Albanians, or is it again MUP
http://www.eurasiareview.com/15112011-kosovo-police-beating-complaints-pile-up/

"We will be ready when Albanians stop trying to finish stealing land that they started stealing when they were Number 1 Turkish ally, when they stop faking an 'Illyrian' origin and when they admit Skenderbeg was of Serb descent and pro-Serb orientation."

This comment here proves beyond any doubt that the person who posted it, is stuck in the Ottoman Empire still. Why on Io would Skenderbeg's family origin be of precondition to establish good relations? Why?

I've tried very hard, but haven't found the document which says that the US recognizes the village Komarovo as a part of Russia. Also I haven't found any US statement which says the US doesn't recognize the village Komarovo as independent state. Your conclusions?
(aaayyy, 20 November 2011 21:59)

My conclusions about what ? what's your question ?
(icj1, 21 November 2011 17:54)

My question is: does the US recognize the vilage Komarovo as independent state? According to your previous "reasoning" it does. icj, aren't you tied of trolling?

My question is: does the US recognize the vilage Komarovo as independent state? According to your previous "reasoning" it does. icj, aren't you tied of trolling?
(aaayyy, 21 November 2011 18:28)

No, which of my “reasoning” led you to that conclusion ? Can you please cite it ?

I still can’t answer your question as some additional information is needed. Does this village of Komarovo has expressed the desire of not being part of Russia ?

Also, what does it mean being “tied of trolling” :)