I want guarantees for Serbs in Kosovo, president says

We hear that President Boris Tadic says that he wants some guarantees for the Serbian and Non-Albania People in Kosovo, and if you read History, you can be guaranteed of a few things.

People can be guaranteed that League of 1878 Prizren Declaration was made 133 years with the goal of stealing Kosovo, and other parts of the Balkans.

People can be guaranteed that the Albanian SS Skanderbeg Division was allied with Nazi Germany in WW 2, and that it conducted Murders and Ethic Cleaning of Serbs and other Non-Albanians in Kosovo.

People can be guaranteed that United Nations Security Council Resolution has been trampled on since 1999, along with the United Nations Six Point Plan for Kosovo since 2008, by many European Union Countries, led by the three Permanent Members of the United Nations Security Council Members; namely, Britain, America, and France.

People can be guaranteed that Most of the Western Media has done nothing but mainly lie about the Serbian People, and that they have covered up for the Kosovo Albanians and others.

People can be guaranteed that the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia has been a Kangaroo Court, and People can be guaranteed that too Many the Kosovo Albanians including their Leaders will always lie and be Criminals to put it Diplomatically.

We have read how UNSCR 1244 is supposed to guarantee to allow Serbia to send up to 1,000 Personnel to Kosovo, because Many People think that this would be provide a degree Guarantee for the Serbian and other Non-Albanian People in Kosovo.

Boris Tadic denies that there are parallel structures in the North of Kosovo.
I'm going to deny that there is a problem with the Greek economy.
(Ian, UK, 17 November 2011 12:03)
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Yes Ian, we all know parallel structures exist in KiM but they are Albanian and not Serbian. Those parallel structures have existed for decades. The difference is that Serbians have tolerated them. Albanians on the other hand can't seem to tolerate the legitimate structures in place for Serbians. As such, their greed will be their undoing. The score is being kept.

Boris Tadic denies that there are parallel structures in the North of Kosovo.

Bashar al-Assad denies that the Syrian people oppose him.

Sepp Blatter denies there is racism in football.

I'm starting to see a trend here.

I'm going to deny that there is a problem with the Greek economy.

No parallel structures in the North?
Go and tell eye to eye to Merkel, Sarcozy or Cameron and see what answer you will get...out disappear from here you liar.

The best way to solve the Kosovo crisis is to accept the offer from Russia to receive the Serbs of the North as repatriation whereby Taci and Putin would reach the final agreement. Probably Taci would offer to pay the transport (airplanes) to Russia for repatriation.

Grant the Kosovo Serbs Russian citizenship and let them remain in their homeland. Just like South Ossetia. No one would then dare and try remove them. This lesson of power might finally wake up Belgrade as to the actual weakness of the EU and US in the Balkans.

Hasn't Serbia got a right to finance Kosovo North according to 1244? Special connections of KSerbs to Serbia are mentioned in 1244, what do those special connections mean?

Iowe, you said the President should have asked about the winds of change blowing through Scotland at the moment. True, but the difference here is that if the Scottish people eventually want to leave the UK then thats their decision and everyone will be sad but respect it. I just think sometimes that Serbs, just don't realise that Kosovo Albanians just don't want to live under Serb Sovereignity any more. Accept it and move on, Thats what the UK will do if Scotland decides to leave.
(twindales, 17 November 2011 15:38)

Very well said. You're so right, we're much maturer than that. We won't let nationalists come to power because of it and start wars and commit ethnic cleansing; or try and isolate Scotland and spend millions on lobbying against them and trying to block them from international organisations. We won't hate each other and have legal arguments 20 years later either or make up crap like they have stole our land and distribute conspiracies theories to make ourselves feel better. We'd accept the will of the Scottish people and move on with the future and just be friends. I'd even apply for a Scottish passport as I'd be eligible.

Also don't listen to lowe, whenever he sees something about the UK on B92 he automatically has to say something about Scotland even though it has nothing to do with the article like this one. Its like some sort of Tourette's for him, he can't help or refrain himself from doing so.

Tadic is very confusing. He don't know how he will fool the serbian people because he already knowes that the final solution for Kosovo is settled.

Now he only speaks for internal use. The serbian people don't even know what to think of him or what his opinion about Kosovo is.

Tadic: "He asked why the international forces in Kosovo were not arresting criminals, both Serb and Albanian"

Such remark could give KFOR/EULEX one more excuse to arrest active defenders of Kosovo North calling them criminals.

"Tadić said he had analyzed various solutions reached in similar situations and he was particularly interested in the agreement between the Great Britain and the Republic of Ireland, as well as the practical solutions which followed from the document."

He should also be interested enough to ask the Brits about the winds of change currently blowing up north in Scotland.

"Boris Tadic denies that there are parallel structures in the North of Kosovo.

Bashar al-Assad denies that the Syrian people oppose him.

Sepp Blatter denies there is racism in football.

I'm starting to see a trend here.

I'm going to deny that there is a problem with the Greek economy."
(Ian, UK, 17 November 2011 12:03)

Will you also deny that Tadic is at the very least presenting Serbia to an increasing audience in a very positive, fairminded and pragmatic way. His way appears to me to be a thoughtful and diplomatically very effective method. Give the man some credit when it is deserved rather than always trying to find the negatives. I am not saying he is perfect but as a UK national living in Serbia, I like his style more and more each time I read about how he is acting. He is a very effective diplomat, something that is needed when dealing with Western politicians.

Will you also deny that Tadic is at the very least presenting Serbia to an increasing audience in a very positive, fairminded and pragmatic way. His way appears to me to be a thoughtful and diplomatically very effective method. Give the man some credit when it is deserved rather than always trying to find the negatives. I am not saying he is perfect but as a UK national living in Serbia, I like his style more and more each time I read about how he is acting. He is a very effective diplomat, something that is needed when dealing with Western politicians.
(UK, 17 November 2011 15:29)

What has Tadic gained actually?
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England and Scotland have mutually agreed border.

Did Tadic really visit the future Sir Cameron? Tadic does not qualifY for the title, I am afraid. I searched Web, I watched TV, I read English press, but could not see a mention of such a visit - Talk about Mr low-international profile Tadic.

Unfortunatelly, all what I was able to find in the international papers after Mr Tadic's visit to the UK is that the talk between so-called independent Kosovo "organs", and Mr Tadic's regime will continue immediatelly, and that the Serbian regime intends to implement all "agreements" although it is expected that the Serbs will resist such decision of Mr Tadic's regime.

Looks like that Mr Tadic regime's SALE of the Serbs to so-called independent Albanian criminal-run state in Kosovo is taking speed. This must be the biggest ever Christmas sale.

If the Serbs survive in Kosovo for next 50 years, then that will be only through their own local organizations, and despite Mr Tadic's regime efforts to sell them off. Good luck to all the Serbs in Kosovo, God be with you. Don't give up and Do not trust Mr Tadic.

You are talking to the Wrong People !.

“If there is a will, and there is on the Serbian side, solutions can be found,” he stressed.

Comment -

If there is a will, and there is none on the Albanian side, solution cant be found.

Therefore the guarante and solution can only be given by the Serbians themselves.

Arn.Sweden.

"Is that what you'll do if your neighbor stole your car?

"Oh well, it's sitting in his driveway now. I guess I will cut my losses and move on."

No you wouldn't. Theft should not be rewarded.
(Steve B.,"

Haha, theft?

340 million Slavs surrounding 6 million Albanians, no need to go onto who is the bully here.

We won't hate each other and have legal arguments 20 years later either or make up crap like they have stole our land and distribute conspiracies theories to make ourselves feel better.
(Ian, UK, 17 November 2011 17:09)
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I think Ian, we can see how mature the UK is towards the Catholics in Northern Ireland. You know, like shooting people on Bloody Sunday and denying it for decades only to eventually admit it. Like recent riots (you know, this year) and even banning all speeches of political opponents (so much for a free press eh).

Yes, we can see how mature the UK is. As for Scotland, the Scottish aren't actually asking for any English territory are they? Or should we hand over Berwick-upon-Tweed for starters? Check -> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-514118/Berwick-Tweed--Englands-northernmost-town--wants-defect-Scotland.html

@ mick

But the Albanians claim that you, Serbs, come to the Balkans and occupied their ancient land. So whom we supposed to listen? Most international history scholars agree that they've settled in the Balkans long before you immigrated there. Most also agree that they are illyrians. Albanian language is unique adding more facts to their claim.

B92 how are we supposed to spell the illyrian word? it seems it does not existed in your dictionary.

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Yes Ian, we all know parallel structures exist in KiM but they are Albanian and not Serbian. Those parallel structures have existed for decades. The difference is that Serbians have tolerated them. Albanians on the other hand can't seem to tolerate the legitimate structures in place for Serbians. As such, their greed will be their undoing. The score is being kept.
(Zoran, 17 November 2011 12:40)

I'm pretty sure the institutions in Pristina were established by UNMIK per UNSCR 1244 and are thus the legitimate institutions in Kosovo. However the ones in the North have been unilaterally set up since February 2008 are being funded by Belgrade, with the official title "Assembly of the Community of Municipalities of the Autonomous Province of Kosovo and Metohija" which is not in line with your ever so precious UNSCR 1244. This assembly aka parallel structure was established on 28 June 2008, therefore it cannot of "existed for decades" as you stated. I believe all of this to be fine, but you can't preach UNSCR 1244 one minute, then the next minute violate it yourself which is precisely what is happening in Northern Kosovo.

Also Pristina has stated several times before that is allowing and willing to give the north autonomy, which suggests to me it is tolerating the parallel structures in the north.

Also stating that Serbians have tolerated the institutions in Pristina is just a pathetic attempt of trying to dress up the fact that there is nothing Belgrade can do about the institution in Pristina, they're there and operating whether Belgrade likes it or not. And yes Pristina is the same when it comes to the parallel structures in the North, they're they and operating whether Pristina likes it or not.

@twindales

You are right on Scotland.
But Scotland Joined England to form the UK as a Union.
That was a mistake they lost their sovereignty to London. But eventually they got it back and even no they can vote for independence if they want.

SO imagine if not Scotish but pakis or polish or some other ethnic group becomes a majority in lets say west Midlands or Cornwall.
Or if welsh people become a majority in these two regions and they vote to make them part of welsh how would you react!!
The same reaction is for Serbs.
You can compare Scotland with Croatia
But A London/Cornwall/Midlands is a Kosovo
Thats the difference.

Reading the post of many Serbs here I propose a reward for Mr. Tadic for the hard work he has to do.

"You can compare Scotland with Croatia
But A London/Cornwall/Midlands is a Kosovo
Thats the difference.
(mick,"

So Kosovars are the Pakis or Polish from another continent into your Serbia?

It is sad but how useless are these arguments that always end by Serbs having to tell all else the real history of their world and what others are.

2 things; Sorboi and Balto-Slavic language ;)

"When a Kosovo Albanian from diplomat made" ... that's making no sense BTW!

He hasn't really said anything new Mr Tadic has he? A waste of trip, shows that he still lives in Lalaland with Tinky Winky et al.

OMG! Who negotiates this way?

Iowe, you said the President should have asked about the winds of change blowing through Scotland at the moment. True, but the difference here is that if the Scottish people eventually want to leave the UK then thats their decision and everyone will be sad but respect it. I just think sometimes that Serbs, just don't realise that Kosovo Albanians just don't want to live under Serb Sovereignity any more. Accept it and move on, Thats what the UK will do if Scotland decides to leave.

Thats what the UK will do if Scotland decides to leave.

Lol,i love it how some people think,especially ones who have not a shred of idea how big power politics work.
The UK would do the same thing as Serbia had done in Kosovo,or Yugoslavia had done in Slovenia,it would try to send an army,that is if bribes of officials,threats or anything else failes.Thats what any country would do.The UK would not really have any problems with Scotland tho,unlike kosovo,its not that much of a corrupt decrepit area.the trade and finacne which Scotland benefits from will not go down the drain as with Prishtina.But above all because the Americans would try to not let it happen.

Iowe, you said the President should have asked about the winds of change blowing through Scotland at the moment. True, but the difference here is that if the Scottish people eventually want to leave the UK then thats their decision and everyone will be sad but respect it. I just think sometimes that Serbs, just don't realise that Kosovo Albanians just don't want to live under Serb Sovereignity any more. Accept it and move on, Thats what the UK will do if Scotland decides to leave.
(twindales, 17 November 2011 15:38)

Is that what you'll do if your neighbor stole your car?

"Oh well, it's sitting in his driveway now. I guess I will cut my losses and move on."

No you wouldn't. Theft should not be rewarded.

Tadić also said that Serbia led by democrats showed readiness to find solutions for the most difficult problems inherited from the era of Slobodan Milošević.
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Poor Tadic. I bet UNSCR1244 gets in his way a lot. It's not so easy selling Serbia now, is it Tadic?

Will you also deny that Tadic is at the very least presenting Serbia to an increasing audience in a very positive, fairminded and pragmatic way.
(UK, 17 November 2011 15:29)

No why would I?

I was just making a topical joke about the old title of the article and people denying things before the title got changed/ updated.

"When a Kosovo Albanian from diplomat made" ... that's making no sense BTW!

They probably mean a Kosovo Albanian diplomat.
It really sounds funny as if a Kosovo Albanian suddenly appeared from a case called "diplomat";

“I'm not saying that you're not entitled to your own opinion because you are and I respect that even if I don't agree with your opinions. I'm saying that bringing up Scottish independence isn't related at all to the article. It'd be like me saying "Tadic should ask about Yorkshire Puddings", it has no relation to the article. B92's comment terms and conditions state "Please keep your messages... relevant to the news stories".

If you'd have actually read the article you'd understand that it isn't about the UK. Tadic who is visiting the UK has been talking to Cameron about EU integration, the future of Serbian politics, the situation of Kosovo Serbs/ northern Kosovo, Kumanovo Agreement, law and order/ Hague Tribunal, the partition of Kosovo, Serbia's relations with Croatia and other neighbours and a small bit about a future Olympic games taking place in the Balkans. The article itself is not about the UK, never mind the proposed Scottish independence.
(Ian, UK, 18 November 2011 14:45)”

Answer this question -- why did Tadic come to London? To ask about Yorkshire puddings? I would think not. So I can agree with you that your puddings are completely irrelevant.

He came to London and talked about Kosovo’s “independence” which your government supported. So don’t you think it would have been a good idea for him to ask his hosts about Scotland’s independence? So that at least some of the brighter, or at least less hypocritical, ones in your government might just begin the see glimpses of their own double standards with regards their open support for Pristina’s UDI on one hand and reluctance to do the same when their own territory up north is at stake.

Far from being irrelevant, I think Tadic missed a golden opportunity here to call a spade a spade. And if this had caused some of the pro-Kosovo hypocrites in London to squirm – well, too bad!

LOL! Ian, your interpretation of UNSCR1244 is wrong. Albanians have had parallel institutions for decades while Serbians have the legitimate ones. Serbia is a recognised UN state while "Kosova" is not. UNMIK only had the authority to hand over control to the "Provisional Institutions of. Self-Government of Kosovo", however, as the ICJ had shown, those declaring independence were not part of those institutions. Therefore, the Albanian "authorities" aka terrorists have no legitimate institutions.

The West/NATO are just making things up as they go. Breaking the rules when they get in the way and using them when they are useful. That has been the case for some time Ian, otherwise they wouldn't be able to destroy and occupy some many countries as they have in the past decades. They are essentially enforcing their policies through force, not international law. It is time to take your head out of the sand Ian.

Guarantees from the west are worthless and he knows it, they can't even follow Resolution 1244 to the letter. They openly break international law whenever it suits them. Time to go Boris, go teach somewhere..maybe in KiM and see for yourself as average person what it is to be Serb over there. Shame on you.

but the difference here is that if the Scottish people eventually want to leave the UK then thats their decision and everyone will be sad but respect it. I just think sometimes that Serbs, just don't realise that Kosovo Albanians just don't want to live under Serb Sovereignity any more. Accept it and move on, Thats what the UK will do if Scotland decides to leave.
(twindales, 17 November 2011 15:38)

What if the Scottish people want to leave and take property/land which is questionable(at best) or just not theirs?

“Why did Tadic come to London? To ask about Scotland? I would think not.

What does Tadic care about Scotland? It is of no concern for him or his government. He has got bigger things to worry about, his foreign policy is already occupied. Tadic was probably squirming and pleading for economic investment, help achieving EU candidate status on 9th December and trying to get the UK to neutralise Croatia over it's genocide lawsuit against Serbia. You see Tadic and Serbia are far too needy to go around trying to point score. You don't give a monkeys about what the Scottish want, you just want them to become independent as some sort of childish payback for the UK supporting Kosovo's independence. Regardless Westminster will respect the will of the Scottish people. The same applies to your comment about Greenland becoming independent. And lets say for arguments sake Scotland and Greenland do become independent, they'll just be other UN seats which recognises Kosovo.
(Ian, UK, 18 November 2011 18:04)”

Did I say that Tadic came to London to ask about Scotland? What I did state however that he SHOULD have asked about Scotland – and thereby show up the hypocrisy and double standards so shamelessly practised by Westminster. It was a different point that I raised and which you rushed headlong into misinterpreting. Whether he’s got “bigger things” to worry about was not the issue. Therefore if there was anyone misinterpreting posts by others, it is YOU!

I don’t think it is “childish payback” to support Scotland’s independence. It would be just desserts for England in my opinion when the Scots break free. To me they are no different from all those ex-colonies which got you guys booted out. But then again, that was not the issue of my original post and once more you got muddled up as expected.

Yes, Scotland and Greenland will likely win UN seats easily unlike poor, poor, poor Kosovo …… and I might add, England too – using the Yugoslavia precedent, England will probably have to reapply for UN entry as a new state again – and…… oopsy!!!!!! And lose its hallowed veto too!!!!! And no guarantee that it will overcome the Russian and Chinese who will wanna extract and arm and a leg – the “payback” that you talked about earlier -- all these delicious scenarios being irrelevant to my original posts of course, but since you insisted on mentioning UN entry – how could I not indulge you and your irrelevance once more?

I really think the argument regardingthe Ablanians have that they where there first is baseless, imagin the American Indians asking for there land back ? Don't think their's another goverment around the world that would let there own people be shoved are round like the Kosovo serbs are been at the momment.Why in hell would one want to join a union with the very people that not only a decade ago bombed help expel your people.

Just don't understand the logic with Mr Tadic serbs are europeans anyway carn't take that away from then, it's not that you have to be in the union to be one huh?

"Also don't listen to lowe, whenever he sees something about the UK on B92 he automatically has to say something about Scotland even though it has nothing to do with the article like this one. Its like some sort of Tourette's for him, he can't help or refrain himself from doing so.
(Ian, UK, 17 November 2011 17:09)"

Isn't this article about the UK (and its visitor Tadic)? And isn't Scotland still part of your UK? So how is Scotland entirely irrelevant to the articel? Also how is Kosovo, which was discussed in the article, all that different from Scotland when your government thinks nothing about dismembering another country (Serbia) and yet appeared loathed to lose its own territory, or more precisely I think, its North Sea oil, nuclear base, etc up north? As far as I know, most of the negative noises about Scottish independence came from London and not Edinburgh.

You are entitled to your opinion about me of course. Just as I am entitled to mine about you as the proverbial ostrich with its head stuck resolutely inside the sand. Just make sure you don't suffocate.

"Iowe, you said the President should have asked about the winds of change blowing through Scotland at the moment. True, but the difference here is that if the Scottish people eventually want to leave the UK then thats their decision and everyone will be sad but respect it. I just think sometimes that Serbs, just don't realise that Kosovo Albanians just don't want to live under Serb Sovereignity any more. Accept it and move on, Thats what the UK will do if Scotland decides to leave.
(twindales, 17 November 2011 15:38)"

Oh, I see ...... so the Serbs should "realise that Kosovo Albanians just don't want to live under Serb Sovereignity any more." and that they should "Accept it and move on" ....... what about K-Serbs who don't wanna live under Pristina's "sovereignty"? (especially those in the north who are a big majority there). Try telling Thaci & Co. to, in your own words, "Accept it and move on"! Or do you also prescribe double standards for K-Albanians and K-Serbs the way your government blatantly did?

Isn't this article about the UK (and its visitor Tadic)? And isn't Scotland still part of your UK? So how is Scotland entirely irrelevant to the articel? Also how is Kosovo, which was discussed in the article, all that different from Scotland when your government thinks nothing about dismembering another country (Serbia) and yet appeared loathed to lose its own territory, or more precisely I think, its North Sea oil, nuclear base, etc up north? As far as I know, most of the negative noises about Scottish independence came from London and not Edinburgh.

You are entitled to your opinion about me of course. Just as I am entitled to mine about you as the proverbial ostrich with its head stuck resolutely inside the sand. Just make sure you don't suffocate.
(lowe, 18 November 2011 06:37)

I'm not saying that you're not entitled to your own opinion because you are and I respect that even if I don't agree with your opinions. I'm saying that bringing up Scottish independence isn't related at all to the article. It'd be like me saying "Tadic should ask about Yorkshire Puddings", it has no relation to the article. B92's comment terms and conditions state "Please keep your messages... relevant to the news stories".

If you'd have actually read the article you'd understand that it isn't about the UK. Tadic who is visiting the UK has been talking to Cameron about EU integration, the future of Serbian politics, the situation of Kosovo Serbs/ northern Kosovo, Kumanovo Agreement, law and order/ Hague Tribunal, the partition of Kosovo, Serbia's relations with Croatia and other neighbours and a small bit about a future Olympic games taking place in the Balkans. The article itself is not about the UK, never mind the proposed Scottish independence.

You see Tadic and Serbia are far too needy to go around trying to point score. You don't give a monkeys about what the Scottish want, you just want them to become independent as some sort of childish payback for the UK supporting Kosovo's independence. Regardless Westminster will respect the will of the Scottish people. The same applies to your comment about Greenland becoming independent. And lets say for arguments sake Scotland and Greenland do become independent, they'll just be other UN seats which recognises Kosovo.
(Ian, UK, 18 November 2011 18:04)
So well said Ian, Uk, I am much enjoying but also improving a lot of my English reading your posts!! I am sure low is too, though he may not admitted.

"So well said Ian, Uk, I am much enjoying but also improving a lot of my English reading your posts!! I am sure low is too, though he may not admitted.
(Goni, 18 November 2011 22:16) "

Please do not speak for me. The only thing that I can learn from him is to become another confused turkey -- thanks but no thanks.

Answer this question -- why did Tadic come to London? To ask about Yorkshire puddings? I would think not. So I can agree with you that your puddings are completely irrelevant.

He came to London and talked about Kosovo’s “independence” which your government supported. So don’t you think it would have been a good idea for him to ask his hosts about Scotland’s independence? So that at least some of the brighter, or at least less hypocritical, ones in your government might just begin the see glimpses of their own double standards with regards their open support for Pristina’s UDI on one hand and reluctance to do the same when their own territory up north is at stake.

Far from being irrelevant, I think Tadic missed a golden opportunity here to call a spade a spade. And if this had caused some of the pro-Kosovo hypocrites in London to squirm – well, too bad!
(lowe, 18 November 2011 15:27)

Why did Tadic come to London? To ask about Scotland? I would think not.

What does Tadic care about Scotland? It is of no concern for him or his government. He has got bigger things to worry about, his foreign policy is already occupied. Tadic was probably squirming and pleading for economic investment, help achieving EU candidate status on 9th December and trying to get the UK to neutralise Croatia over it's genocide lawsuit against Serbia. You see Tadic and Serbia are far too needy to go around trying to point score. You don't give a monkeys about what the Scottish want, you just want them to become independent as some sort of childish payback for the UK supporting Kosovo's independence. Regardless Westminster will respect the will of the Scottish people. The same applies to your comment about Greenland becoming independent. And lets say for arguments sake Scotland and Greenland do become independent, they'll just be other UN seats which recognises Kosovo.

Poor old Boris. He looks so pathetic chasing the Euro dollars. He wants to “reach the end” so desperately he will sell his own mother.

But it’s all too late as the Russians are not keen on settling this Kosovo issue. I watch in amusement as it al plays out, much like a cat and mouse game and its not in the interests of the idiotic west LOL

"Independence aspirations are expressed via a declaration supported by the majority of the entity which has those aspirations, not by posts in online forums. There is no such a thing as independence aspirations of the majority of Scotland. So Boris can't ask about something that does not exist.
(icj1, 20 November 2011 14:33) "

Only a referendum can determine whether the Scots want independence -- which Edinburgh has the intentin to organize one soon.

However in your earlier post, you stated that Scotland had not done a UDI and Tadic should not ask about that UDI. My point to you was that I never said that the Scots did any UDI nor that Tadic should ask his hosts about that UDI.

"Well, Scotland has not declared any UDI. Boris can’t ask for things that don’t exist, otherwise his host may think Boris is having hallucinations. It’s not good for a country to have a president with hallucinations.
(icj1, 19 November 2011 23:26)"

Show me where did I state that Scotland had done a UDI and that Tadic should ask about that non-existent UDI. Anyone who read my posts properly would know that I was referring to the independence aspirations currently underway in Scotland which Tadic should ask about. Trust you to bark up the wrong tree again.

what about K-Serbs who don't wanna live under Pristina's "sovereignty"? (especially those in the north who are a big majority there).
(lowe, 18 November 2011 06:27)

"Who told you that ?! They haven’t declared independence from Kosovo."

Tell me why they must declare independence from Kosovo because they don't want to be under Pristina. They see themselves as part of Serbia.

Moreover that sentence of mine must be taken in the context of my reply to that poster who talked about K-Albanian rights not to live as part of Serbia. I was asking him/her whether the same rights should be given to K-Serbs who don't wanna live as part of "Kosova". So far he/she has not replied. But trust you once more to jump in headlong and bark up the wrong tree, yet again.

"Well, N. Kosovo is part of Kosovo. So, if N. Kosovo does not want to be part of Kosovo, it has to declare that.

Note, we are not discussing here if Kosovo, N. Kosovo, etc, are part of Serbia, Balkans, Europe, or Earth. Let's assume they are. That does not change the fact that N. Kosovo is still part of Kosovo. N. Kosovo has been part of Kosovo even before 1999 and never declared any desire to not be part of Kosovo.
(icj1, 20 November 2011 14:40) "

I think you are wrong. N Kosovo would declare independence only from an entity that it accepts to be a state. Since the K-Serbs don't accept Kosovo's statehood, how can they declare independence from a state that doesn't exist for them?????? Show me examples of states declaring independence from non-states!

People can be guaranteed that United Nations Security Council Resolution has been trampled on since 1999, along with the United Nations Six Point Plan for Kosovo since 2008, by many European Union Countries, led by the three Permanent Members of the United Nations Security Council Members; namely, Britain, America, and France.
(Yet Another J S, 17 November 2011 12:31)

But Kosovo’s UDI was in accordance with 1244. Haven’t you heard that yet ?!
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People can be guaranteed that the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia has been a Kangaroo Court
(Yet Another J S, 17 November 2011 12:31)

A court established by Russia, China and others is a Kangaroo Court ?!
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We have read how UNSCR 1244 is supposed to guarantee to allow Serbia to send up to 1,000 Personnel to Kosovo, because Many People think that this would be provide a degree Guarantee for the Serbian and other Non-Albanian People in Kosovo.
(Yet Another J S, 17 November 2011 12:31)

You have read the famous Serbian version my friend. The Arabic, Chinese, English, French and Russian versions of UNSCR 1244 say that “an agreed number” of Serbian personal can return. As soon as the number is agreed :) they will return for sure.

Serbia is a recognised UN state while "Kosova" is not.
(Zoran, 17 November 2011 17:50)

My dear Zoran, UN is not empowered by the UN charter to recognize anything. So, neither Serbia, nor Kosovo or any other country are recognized or will ever be recognized by the UN (at, least, until the UN charter changes).
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Therefore, the Albanian "authorities" aka terrorists have no legitimate institutions.
(Zoran, 17 November 2011 17:50)

The Kosovo’s institutions are legitimated by Kosovo’s Constitution which is in accordance with Kosovo’s UDI, which is in accordance with International Law. But you are correct, if there are any Albanian terrorist authorities they are not legitimate institutions.
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Poor Tadic. I bet UNSCR1244 gets in his way a lot.
(Zoran, 17 November 2011 18:08)

Absolutely, because UNSCR 1244 removed Serbia’s control of Kosovo thus getting in the way of all Serbia’s presidents from Milosevic to now. Milosevic understood that very well and pleaded Russia, China and the others in the UNSC in 1999 to block UNSCR 1244 which would dismember Serbia.
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What if the Scottish people want to leave and take property/land which is questionable(at best) or just not theirs?
(aaayyy, 17 November 2011 18:56)

The courts will resolve that if there is any doubt, just like ICJ did for the Kosovo case. Don’t lose your sleep at night about that.
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But it’s all too late as the Russians are not keen on settling this Kosovo issue. I watch in amusement as it al plays out, much like a cat and mouse game and its not in the interests of the idiotic west LOL
(sj, 18 November 2011 06:15)

Of course, just make sure to convince the west it’s not in its interest.
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what about K-Serbs who don't wanna live under Pristina's "sovereignty"? (especially those in the north who are a big majority there).
(lowe, 18 November 2011 06:27)

Who told you that ?! They haven’t declared independence from Kosovo.
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He came to London and talked about Kosovo’s “independence” which your government supported. So don’t you think it would have been a good idea for him to ask his hosts about Scotland’s independence? Far from being irrelevant, I think Tadic missed a golden opportunity here to call a spade a spade. And if this had caused some of the pro-Kosovo hypocrites in London to squirm – well, too bad!
(lowe, 18 November 2011 15:27)

Well, Scotland has not declared any UDI. Boris can’t ask for things that don’t exist, otherwise his host may think Boris is having hallucinations. It’s not good for a country to have a president with hallucinations.

Show me where did I state that Scotland had done a UDI and that Tadic should ask about that non-existent UDI. Anyone who read my posts properly would know that I was referring to the independence aspirations currently underway in Scotland which Tadic should ask about. Trust you to bark up the wrong tree again.
(lowe, 20 November 2011 04:35)

Independence aspirations are expressed via a declaration supported by the majority of the entity which has those aspirations, not by posts in online forums. There is no such a thing as independence aspirations of the majority of Scotland. So Boris can't ask about something that does not exist.

Tell me why they must declare independence from Kosovo because they don't want to be under Pristina. They see themselves as part of Serbia.
(lowe, 20 November 2011 04:47)

Well, N. Kosovo is part of Kosovo. So, if N. Kosovo does not want to be part of Kosovo, it has to declare that.

Note, we are not discussing here if Kosovo, N. Kosovo, etc, are part of Serbia, Balkans, Europe, or Earth. Let's assume they are. That does not change the fact that N. Kosovo is still part of Kosovo. N. Kosovo has been part of Kosovo even before 1999 and never declared any desire to not be part of Kosovo.

No parallel structures in the North?
Go and tell eye to eye to Merkel, Sarcozy or Cameron and see what answer you will get...out disappear from here you liar.

The best way to solve the Kosovo crisis is to accept the offer from Russia to receive the Serbs of the North as repatriation whereby Taci and Putin would reach the final agreement. Probably Taci would offer to pay the transport (airplanes) to Russia for repatriation.

Tadic is very confusing. He don't know how he will fool the serbian people because he already knowes that the final solution for Kosovo is settled.

Now he only speaks for internal use. The serbian people don't even know what to think of him or what his opinion about Kosovo is.

Yes Ian, we all know parallel structures exist in KiM but they are Albanian and not Serbian. Those parallel structures have existed for decades. The difference is that Serbians have tolerated them. Albanians on the other hand can't seem to tolerate the legitimate structures in place for Serbians. As such, their greed will be their undoing. The score is being kept.
(Zoran, 17 November 2011 12:40)

I'm pretty sure the institutions in Pristina were established by UNMIK per UNSCR 1244 and are thus the legitimate institutions in Kosovo. However the ones in the North have been unilaterally set up since February 2008 are being funded by Belgrade, with the official title "Assembly of the Community of Municipalities of the Autonomous Province of Kosovo and Metohija" which is not in line with your ever so precious UNSCR 1244. This assembly aka parallel structure was established on 28 June 2008, therefore it cannot of "existed for decades" as you stated. I believe all of this to be fine, but you can't preach UNSCR 1244 one minute, then the next minute violate it yourself which is precisely what is happening in Northern Kosovo.

Also Pristina has stated several times before that is allowing and willing to give the north autonomy, which suggests to me it is tolerating the parallel structures in the north.

Also stating that Serbians have tolerated the institutions in Pristina is just a pathetic attempt of trying to dress up the fact that there is nothing Belgrade can do about the institution in Pristina, they're there and operating whether Belgrade likes it or not. And yes Pristina is the same when it comes to the parallel structures in the North, they're they and operating whether Pristina likes it or not.

"When a Kosovo Albanian from diplomat made" ... that's making no sense BTW!

He hasn't really said anything new Mr Tadic has he? A waste of trip, shows that he still lives in Lalaland with Tinky Winky et al.

Boris Tadic denies that there are parallel structures in the North of Kosovo.

Bashar al-Assad denies that the Syrian people oppose him.

Sepp Blatter denies there is racism in football.

I'm starting to see a trend here.

I'm going to deny that there is a problem with the Greek economy.

We hear that President Boris Tadic says that he wants some guarantees for the Serbian and Non-Albania People in Kosovo, and if you read History, you can be guaranteed of a few things.

People can be guaranteed that League of 1878 Prizren Declaration was made 133 years with the goal of stealing Kosovo, and other parts of the Balkans.

People can be guaranteed that the Albanian SS Skanderbeg Division was allied with Nazi Germany in WW 2, and that it conducted Murders and Ethic Cleaning of Serbs and other Non-Albanians in Kosovo.

People can be guaranteed that United Nations Security Council Resolution has been trampled on since 1999, along with the United Nations Six Point Plan for Kosovo since 2008, by many European Union Countries, led by the three Permanent Members of the United Nations Security Council Members; namely, Britain, America, and France.

People can be guaranteed that Most of the Western Media has done nothing but mainly lie about the Serbian People, and that they have covered up for the Kosovo Albanians and others.

People can be guaranteed that the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia has been a Kangaroo Court, and People can be guaranteed that too Many the Kosovo Albanians including their Leaders will always lie and be Criminals to put it Diplomatically.

We have read how UNSCR 1244 is supposed to guarantee to allow Serbia to send up to 1,000 Personnel to Kosovo, because Many People think that this would be provide a degree Guarantee for the Serbian and other Non-Albanian People in Kosovo.

Tadic: "He asked why the international forces in Kosovo were not arresting criminals, both Serb and Albanian"

Such remark could give KFOR/EULEX one more excuse to arrest active defenders of Kosovo North calling them criminals.

Grant the Kosovo Serbs Russian citizenship and let them remain in their homeland. Just like South Ossetia. No one would then dare and try remove them. This lesson of power might finally wake up Belgrade as to the actual weakness of the EU and US in the Balkans.

Boris Tadic denies that there are parallel structures in the North of Kosovo.
I'm going to deny that there is a problem with the Greek economy.
(Ian, UK, 17 November 2011 12:03)
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Yes Ian, we all know parallel structures exist in KiM but they are Albanian and not Serbian. Those parallel structures have existed for decades. The difference is that Serbians have tolerated them. Albanians on the other hand can't seem to tolerate the legitimate structures in place for Serbians. As such, their greed will be their undoing. The score is being kept.

Iowe, you said the President should have asked about the winds of change blowing through Scotland at the moment. True, but the difference here is that if the Scottish people eventually want to leave the UK then thats their decision and everyone will be sad but respect it. I just think sometimes that Serbs, just don't realise that Kosovo Albanians just don't want to live under Serb Sovereignity any more. Accept it and move on, Thats what the UK will do if Scotland decides to leave.
(twindales, 17 November 2011 15:38)

Very well said. You're so right, we're much maturer than that. We won't let nationalists come to power because of it and start wars and commit ethnic cleansing; or try and isolate Scotland and spend millions on lobbying against them and trying to block them from international organisations. We won't hate each other and have legal arguments 20 years later either or make up crap like they have stole our land and distribute conspiracies theories to make ourselves feel better. We'd accept the will of the Scottish people and move on with the future and just be friends. I'd even apply for a Scottish passport as I'd be eligible.

Also don't listen to lowe, whenever he sees something about the UK on B92 he automatically has to say something about Scotland even though it has nothing to do with the article like this one. Its like some sort of Tourette's for him, he can't help or refrain himself from doing so.

You are talking to the Wrong People !.

“If there is a will, and there is on the Serbian side, solutions can be found,” he stressed.

Comment -

If there is a will, and there is none on the Albanian side, solution cant be found.

Therefore the guarante and solution can only be given by the Serbians themselves.

Arn.Sweden.

Iowe, you said the President should have asked about the winds of change blowing through Scotland at the moment. True, but the difference here is that if the Scottish people eventually want to leave the UK then thats their decision and everyone will be sad but respect it. I just think sometimes that Serbs, just don't realise that Kosovo Albanians just don't want to live under Serb Sovereignity any more. Accept it and move on, Thats what the UK will do if Scotland decides to leave.
(twindales, 17 November 2011 15:38)

Is that what you'll do if your neighbor stole your car?

"Oh well, it's sitting in his driveway now. I guess I will cut my losses and move on."

No you wouldn't. Theft should not be rewarded.

Will you also deny that Tadic is at the very least presenting Serbia to an increasing audience in a very positive, fairminded and pragmatic way.
(UK, 17 November 2011 15:29)

No why would I?

I was just making a topical joke about the old title of the article and people denying things before the title got changed/ updated.

@ mick

But the Albanians claim that you, Serbs, come to the Balkans and occupied their ancient land. So whom we supposed to listen? Most international history scholars agree that they've settled in the Balkans long before you immigrated there. Most also agree that they are illyrians. Albanian language is unique adding more facts to their claim.

B92 how are we supposed to spell the illyrian word? it seems it does not existed in your dictionary.

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Hasn't Serbia got a right to finance Kosovo North according to 1244? Special connections of KSerbs to Serbia are mentioned in 1244, what do those special connections mean?

Iowe, you said the President should have asked about the winds of change blowing through Scotland at the moment. True, but the difference here is that if the Scottish people eventually want to leave the UK then thats their decision and everyone will be sad but respect it. I just think sometimes that Serbs, just don't realise that Kosovo Albanians just don't want to live under Serb Sovereignity any more. Accept it and move on, Thats what the UK will do if Scotland decides to leave.

"Boris Tadic denies that there are parallel structures in the North of Kosovo.

Bashar al-Assad denies that the Syrian people oppose him.

Sepp Blatter denies there is racism in football.

I'm starting to see a trend here.

I'm going to deny that there is a problem with the Greek economy."
(Ian, UK, 17 November 2011 12:03)

Will you also deny that Tadic is at the very least presenting Serbia to an increasing audience in a very positive, fairminded and pragmatic way. His way appears to me to be a thoughtful and diplomatically very effective method. Give the man some credit when it is deserved rather than always trying to find the negatives. I am not saying he is perfect but as a UK national living in Serbia, I like his style more and more each time I read about how he is acting. He is a very effective diplomat, something that is needed when dealing with Western politicians.

@twindales

You are right on Scotland.
But Scotland Joined England to form the UK as a Union.
That was a mistake they lost their sovereignty to London. But eventually they got it back and even no they can vote for independence if they want.

SO imagine if not Scotish but pakis or polish or some other ethnic group becomes a majority in lets say west Midlands or Cornwall.
Or if welsh people become a majority in these two regions and they vote to make them part of welsh how would you react!!
The same reaction is for Serbs.
You can compare Scotland with Croatia
But A London/Cornwall/Midlands is a Kosovo
Thats the difference.

"Tadić said he had analyzed various solutions reached in similar situations and he was particularly interested in the agreement between the Great Britain and the Republic of Ireland, as well as the practical solutions which followed from the document."

He should also be interested enough to ask the Brits about the winds of change currently blowing up north in Scotland.

Thats what the UK will do if Scotland decides to leave.

Lol,i love it how some people think,especially ones who have not a shred of idea how big power politics work.
The UK would do the same thing as Serbia had done in Kosovo,or Yugoslavia had done in Slovenia,it would try to send an army,that is if bribes of officials,threats or anything else failes.Thats what any country would do.The UK would not really have any problems with Scotland tho,unlike kosovo,its not that much of a corrupt decrepit area.the trade and finacne which Scotland benefits from will not go down the drain as with Prishtina.But above all because the Americans would try to not let it happen.

LOL! Ian, your interpretation of UNSCR1244 is wrong. Albanians have had parallel institutions for decades while Serbians have the legitimate ones. Serbia is a recognised UN state while "Kosova" is not. UNMIK only had the authority to hand over control to the "Provisional Institutions of. Self-Government of Kosovo", however, as the ICJ had shown, those declaring independence were not part of those institutions. Therefore, the Albanian "authorities" aka terrorists have no legitimate institutions.

The West/NATO are just making things up as they go. Breaking the rules when they get in the way and using them when they are useful. That has been the case for some time Ian, otherwise they wouldn't be able to destroy and occupy some many countries as they have in the past decades. They are essentially enforcing their policies through force, not international law. It is time to take your head out of the sand Ian.

"Is that what you'll do if your neighbor stole your car?

"Oh well, it's sitting in his driveway now. I guess I will cut my losses and move on."

No you wouldn't. Theft should not be rewarded.
(Steve B.,"

Haha, theft?

340 million Slavs surrounding 6 million Albanians, no need to go onto who is the bully here.

We won't hate each other and have legal arguments 20 years later either or make up crap like they have stole our land and distribute conspiracies theories to make ourselves feel better.
(Ian, UK, 17 November 2011 17:09)
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I think Ian, we can see how mature the UK is towards the Catholics in Northern Ireland. You know, like shooting people on Bloody Sunday and denying it for decades only to eventually admit it. Like recent riots (you know, this year) and even banning all speeches of political opponents (so much for a free press eh).

Yes, we can see how mature the UK is. As for Scotland, the Scottish aren't actually asking for any English territory are they? Or should we hand over Berwick-upon-Tweed for starters? Check -> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-514118/Berwick-Tweed--Englands-northernmost-town--wants-defect-Scotland.html

Answer this question -- why did Tadic come to London? To ask about Yorkshire puddings? I would think not. So I can agree with you that your puddings are completely irrelevant.

He came to London and talked about Kosovo’s “independence” which your government supported. So don’t you think it would have been a good idea for him to ask his hosts about Scotland’s independence? So that at least some of the brighter, or at least less hypocritical, ones in your government might just begin the see glimpses of their own double standards with regards their open support for Pristina’s UDI on one hand and reluctance to do the same when their own territory up north is at stake.

Far from being irrelevant, I think Tadic missed a golden opportunity here to call a spade a spade. And if this had caused some of the pro-Kosovo hypocrites in London to squirm – well, too bad!
(lowe, 18 November 2011 15:27)

Why did Tadic come to London? To ask about Scotland? I would think not.

What does Tadic care about Scotland? It is of no concern for him or his government. He has got bigger things to worry about, his foreign policy is already occupied. Tadic was probably squirming and pleading for economic investment, help achieving EU candidate status on 9th December and trying to get the UK to neutralise Croatia over it's genocide lawsuit against Serbia. You see Tadic and Serbia are far too needy to go around trying to point score. You don't give a monkeys about what the Scottish want, you just want them to become independent as some sort of childish payback for the UK supporting Kosovo's independence. Regardless Westminster will respect the will of the Scottish people. The same applies to your comment about Greenland becoming independent. And lets say for arguments sake Scotland and Greenland do become independent, they'll just be other UN seats which recognises Kosovo.

"You can compare Scotland with Croatia
But A London/Cornwall/Midlands is a Kosovo
Thats the difference.
(mick,"

So Kosovars are the Pakis or Polish from another continent into your Serbia?

It is sad but how useless are these arguments that always end by Serbs having to tell all else the real history of their world and what others are.

2 things; Sorboi and Balto-Slavic language ;)

Reading the post of many Serbs here I propose a reward for Mr. Tadic for the hard work he has to do.

Did Tadic really visit the future Sir Cameron? Tadic does not qualifY for the title, I am afraid. I searched Web, I watched TV, I read English press, but could not see a mention of such a visit - Talk about Mr low-international profile Tadic.

Unfortunatelly, all what I was able to find in the international papers after Mr Tadic's visit to the UK is that the talk between so-called independent Kosovo "organs", and Mr Tadic's regime will continue immediatelly, and that the Serbian regime intends to implement all "agreements" although it is expected that the Serbs will resist such decision of Mr Tadic's regime.

Looks like that Mr Tadic regime's SALE of the Serbs to so-called independent Albanian criminal-run state in Kosovo is taking speed. This must be the biggest ever Christmas sale.

If the Serbs survive in Kosovo for next 50 years, then that will be only through their own local organizations, and despite Mr Tadic's regime efforts to sell them off. Good luck to all the Serbs in Kosovo, God be with you. Don't give up and Do not trust Mr Tadic.

Tadić also said that Serbia led by democrats showed readiness to find solutions for the most difficult problems inherited from the era of Slobodan Milošević.
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Poor Tadic. I bet UNSCR1244 gets in his way a lot. It's not so easy selling Serbia now, is it Tadic?

but the difference here is that if the Scottish people eventually want to leave the UK then thats their decision and everyone will be sad but respect it. I just think sometimes that Serbs, just don't realise that Kosovo Albanians just don't want to live under Serb Sovereignity any more. Accept it and move on, Thats what the UK will do if Scotland decides to leave.
(twindales, 17 November 2011 15:38)

What if the Scottish people want to leave and take property/land which is questionable(at best) or just not theirs?

Isn't this article about the UK (and its visitor Tadic)? And isn't Scotland still part of your UK? So how is Scotland entirely irrelevant to the articel? Also how is Kosovo, which was discussed in the article, all that different from Scotland when your government thinks nothing about dismembering another country (Serbia) and yet appeared loathed to lose its own territory, or more precisely I think, its North Sea oil, nuclear base, etc up north? As far as I know, most of the negative noises about Scottish independence came from London and not Edinburgh.

You are entitled to your opinion about me of course. Just as I am entitled to mine about you as the proverbial ostrich with its head stuck resolutely inside the sand. Just make sure you don't suffocate.
(lowe, 18 November 2011 06:37)

I'm not saying that you're not entitled to your own opinion because you are and I respect that even if I don't agree with your opinions. I'm saying that bringing up Scottish independence isn't related at all to the article. It'd be like me saying "Tadic should ask about Yorkshire Puddings", it has no relation to the article. B92's comment terms and conditions state "Please keep your messages... relevant to the news stories".

If you'd have actually read the article you'd understand that it isn't about the UK. Tadic who is visiting the UK has been talking to Cameron about EU integration, the future of Serbian politics, the situation of Kosovo Serbs/ northern Kosovo, Kumanovo Agreement, law and order/ Hague Tribunal, the partition of Kosovo, Serbia's relations with Croatia and other neighbours and a small bit about a future Olympic games taking place in the Balkans. The article itself is not about the UK, never mind the proposed Scottish independence.

“I'm not saying that you're not entitled to your own opinion because you are and I respect that even if I don't agree with your opinions. I'm saying that bringing up Scottish independence isn't related at all to the article. It'd be like me saying "Tadic should ask about Yorkshire Puddings", it has no relation to the article. B92's comment terms and conditions state "Please keep your messages... relevant to the news stories".

If you'd have actually read the article you'd understand that it isn't about the UK. Tadic who is visiting the UK has been talking to Cameron about EU integration, the future of Serbian politics, the situation of Kosovo Serbs/ northern Kosovo, Kumanovo Agreement, law and order/ Hague Tribunal, the partition of Kosovo, Serbia's relations with Croatia and other neighbours and a small bit about a future Olympic games taking place in the Balkans. The article itself is not about the UK, never mind the proposed Scottish independence.
(Ian, UK, 18 November 2011 14:45)”

Answer this question -- why did Tadic come to London? To ask about Yorkshire puddings? I would think not. So I can agree with you that your puddings are completely irrelevant.

He came to London and talked about Kosovo’s “independence” which your government supported. So don’t you think it would have been a good idea for him to ask his hosts about Scotland’s independence? So that at least some of the brighter, or at least less hypocritical, ones in your government might just begin the see glimpses of their own double standards with regards their open support for Pristina’s UDI on one hand and reluctance to do the same when their own territory up north is at stake.

Far from being irrelevant, I think Tadic missed a golden opportunity here to call a spade a spade. And if this had caused some of the pro-Kosovo hypocrites in London to squirm – well, too bad!

Guarantees from the west are worthless and he knows it, they can't even follow Resolution 1244 to the letter. They openly break international law whenever it suits them. Time to go Boris, go teach somewhere..maybe in KiM and see for yourself as average person what it is to be Serb over there. Shame on you.

Will you also deny that Tadic is at the very least presenting Serbia to an increasing audience in a very positive, fairminded and pragmatic way. His way appears to me to be a thoughtful and diplomatically very effective method. Give the man some credit when it is deserved rather than always trying to find the negatives. I am not saying he is perfect but as a UK national living in Serbia, I like his style more and more each time I read about how he is acting. He is a very effective diplomat, something that is needed when dealing with Western politicians.
(UK, 17 November 2011 15:29)

What has Tadic gained actually?
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England and Scotland have mutually agreed border.

"When a Kosovo Albanian from diplomat made" ... that's making no sense BTW!

They probably mean a Kosovo Albanian diplomat.
It really sounds funny as if a Kosovo Albanian suddenly appeared from a case called "diplomat";

You see Tadic and Serbia are far too needy to go around trying to point score. You don't give a monkeys about what the Scottish want, you just want them to become independent as some sort of childish payback for the UK supporting Kosovo's independence. Regardless Westminster will respect the will of the Scottish people. The same applies to your comment about Greenland becoming independent. And lets say for arguments sake Scotland and Greenland do become independent, they'll just be other UN seats which recognises Kosovo.
(Ian, UK, 18 November 2011 18:04)
So well said Ian, Uk, I am much enjoying but also improving a lot of my English reading your posts!! I am sure low is too, though he may not admitted.

“Why did Tadic come to London? To ask about Scotland? I would think not.

What does Tadic care about Scotland? It is of no concern for him or his government. He has got bigger things to worry about, his foreign policy is already occupied. Tadic was probably squirming and pleading for economic investment, help achieving EU candidate status on 9th December and trying to get the UK to neutralise Croatia over it's genocide lawsuit against Serbia. You see Tadic and Serbia are far too needy to go around trying to point score. You don't give a monkeys about what the Scottish want, you just want them to become independent as some sort of childish payback for the UK supporting Kosovo's independence. Regardless Westminster will respect the will of the Scottish people. The same applies to your comment about Greenland becoming independent. And lets say for arguments sake Scotland and Greenland do become independent, they'll just be other UN seats which recognises Kosovo.
(Ian, UK, 18 November 2011 18:04)”

Did I say that Tadic came to London to ask about Scotland? What I did state however that he SHOULD have asked about Scotland – and thereby show up the hypocrisy and double standards so shamelessly practised by Westminster. It was a different point that I raised and which you rushed headlong into misinterpreting. Whether he’s got “bigger things” to worry about was not the issue. Therefore if there was anyone misinterpreting posts by others, it is YOU!

I don’t think it is “childish payback” to support Scotland’s independence. It would be just desserts for England in my opinion when the Scots break free. To me they are no different from all those ex-colonies which got you guys booted out. But then again, that was not the issue of my original post and once more you got muddled up as expected.

Yes, Scotland and Greenland will likely win UN seats easily unlike poor, poor, poor Kosovo …… and I might add, England too – using the Yugoslavia precedent, England will probably have to reapply for UN entry as a new state again – and…… oopsy!!!!!! And lose its hallowed veto too!!!!! And no guarantee that it will overcome the Russian and Chinese who will wanna extract and arm and a leg – the “payback” that you talked about earlier -- all these delicious scenarios being irrelevant to my original posts of course, but since you insisted on mentioning UN entry – how could I not indulge you and your irrelevance once more?

Serbia is a recognised UN state while "Kosova" is not.
(Zoran, 17 November 2011 17:50)

My dear Zoran, UN is not empowered by the UN charter to recognize anything. So, neither Serbia, nor Kosovo or any other country are recognized or will ever be recognized by the UN (at, least, until the UN charter changes).
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Therefore, the Albanian "authorities" aka terrorists have no legitimate institutions.
(Zoran, 17 November 2011 17:50)

The Kosovo’s institutions are legitimated by Kosovo’s Constitution which is in accordance with Kosovo’s UDI, which is in accordance with International Law. But you are correct, if there are any Albanian terrorist authorities they are not legitimate institutions.
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Poor Tadic. I bet UNSCR1244 gets in his way a lot.
(Zoran, 17 November 2011 18:08)

Absolutely, because UNSCR 1244 removed Serbia’s control of Kosovo thus getting in the way of all Serbia’s presidents from Milosevic to now. Milosevic understood that very well and pleaded Russia, China and the others in the UNSC in 1999 to block UNSCR 1244 which would dismember Serbia.
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What if the Scottish people want to leave and take property/land which is questionable(at best) or just not theirs?
(aaayyy, 17 November 2011 18:56)

The courts will resolve that if there is any doubt, just like ICJ did for the Kosovo case. Don’t lose your sleep at night about that.
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But it’s all too late as the Russians are not keen on settling this Kosovo issue. I watch in amusement as it al plays out, much like a cat and mouse game and its not in the interests of the idiotic west LOL
(sj, 18 November 2011 06:15)

Of course, just make sure to convince the west it’s not in its interest.
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what about K-Serbs who don't wanna live under Pristina's "sovereignty"? (especially those in the north who are a big majority there).
(lowe, 18 November 2011 06:27)

Who told you that ?! They haven’t declared independence from Kosovo.
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He came to London and talked about Kosovo’s “independence” which your government supported. So don’t you think it would have been a good idea for him to ask his hosts about Scotland’s independence? Far from being irrelevant, I think Tadic missed a golden opportunity here to call a spade a spade. And if this had caused some of the pro-Kosovo hypocrites in London to squirm – well, too bad!
(lowe, 18 November 2011 15:27)

Well, Scotland has not declared any UDI. Boris can’t ask for things that don’t exist, otherwise his host may think Boris is having hallucinations. It’s not good for a country to have a president with hallucinations.

Poor old Boris. He looks so pathetic chasing the Euro dollars. He wants to “reach the end” so desperately he will sell his own mother.

But it’s all too late as the Russians are not keen on settling this Kosovo issue. I watch in amusement as it al plays out, much like a cat and mouse game and its not in the interests of the idiotic west LOL

"Iowe, you said the President should have asked about the winds of change blowing through Scotland at the moment. True, but the difference here is that if the Scottish people eventually want to leave the UK then thats their decision and everyone will be sad but respect it. I just think sometimes that Serbs, just don't realise that Kosovo Albanians just don't want to live under Serb Sovereignity any more. Accept it and move on, Thats what the UK will do if Scotland decides to leave.
(twindales, 17 November 2011 15:38)"

Oh, I see ...... so the Serbs should "realise that Kosovo Albanians just don't want to live under Serb Sovereignity any more." and that they should "Accept it and move on" ....... what about K-Serbs who don't wanna live under Pristina's "sovereignty"? (especially those in the north who are a big majority there). Try telling Thaci & Co. to, in your own words, "Accept it and move on"! Or do you also prescribe double standards for K-Albanians and K-Serbs the way your government blatantly did?

"Also don't listen to lowe, whenever he sees something about the UK on B92 he automatically has to say something about Scotland even though it has nothing to do with the article like this one. Its like some sort of Tourette's for him, he can't help or refrain himself from doing so.
(Ian, UK, 17 November 2011 17:09)"

Isn't this article about the UK (and its visitor Tadic)? And isn't Scotland still part of your UK? So how is Scotland entirely irrelevant to the articel? Also how is Kosovo, which was discussed in the article, all that different from Scotland when your government thinks nothing about dismembering another country (Serbia) and yet appeared loathed to lose its own territory, or more precisely I think, its North Sea oil, nuclear base, etc up north? As far as I know, most of the negative noises about Scottish independence came from London and not Edinburgh.

You are entitled to your opinion about me of course. Just as I am entitled to mine about you as the proverbial ostrich with its head stuck resolutely inside the sand. Just make sure you don't suffocate.

"So well said Ian, Uk, I am much enjoying but also improving a lot of my English reading your posts!! I am sure low is too, though he may not admitted.
(Goni, 18 November 2011 22:16) "

Please do not speak for me. The only thing that I can learn from him is to become another confused turkey -- thanks but no thanks.

OMG! Who negotiates this way?

People can be guaranteed that United Nations Security Council Resolution has been trampled on since 1999, along with the United Nations Six Point Plan for Kosovo since 2008, by many European Union Countries, led by the three Permanent Members of the United Nations Security Council Members; namely, Britain, America, and France.
(Yet Another J S, 17 November 2011 12:31)

But Kosovo’s UDI was in accordance with 1244. Haven’t you heard that yet ?!
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People can be guaranteed that the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia has been a Kangaroo Court
(Yet Another J S, 17 November 2011 12:31)

A court established by Russia, China and others is a Kangaroo Court ?!
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We have read how UNSCR 1244 is supposed to guarantee to allow Serbia to send up to 1,000 Personnel to Kosovo, because Many People think that this would be provide a degree Guarantee for the Serbian and other Non-Albanian People in Kosovo.
(Yet Another J S, 17 November 2011 12:31)

You have read the famous Serbian version my friend. The Arabic, Chinese, English, French and Russian versions of UNSCR 1244 say that “an agreed number” of Serbian personal can return. As soon as the number is agreed :) they will return for sure.

Tell me why they must declare independence from Kosovo because they don't want to be under Pristina. They see themselves as part of Serbia.
(lowe, 20 November 2011 04:47)

Well, N. Kosovo is part of Kosovo. So, if N. Kosovo does not want to be part of Kosovo, it has to declare that.

Note, we are not discussing here if Kosovo, N. Kosovo, etc, are part of Serbia, Balkans, Europe, or Earth. Let's assume they are. That does not change the fact that N. Kosovo is still part of Kosovo. N. Kosovo has been part of Kosovo even before 1999 and never declared any desire to not be part of Kosovo.

I really think the argument regardingthe Ablanians have that they where there first is baseless, imagin the American Indians asking for there land back ? Don't think their's another goverment around the world that would let there own people be shoved are round like the Kosovo serbs are been at the momment.Why in hell would one want to join a union with the very people that not only a decade ago bombed help expel your people.

Just don't understand the logic with Mr Tadic serbs are europeans anyway carn't take that away from then, it's not that you have to be in the union to be one huh?

"Well, Scotland has not declared any UDI. Boris can’t ask for things that don’t exist, otherwise his host may think Boris is having hallucinations. It’s not good for a country to have a president with hallucinations.
(icj1, 19 November 2011 23:26)"

Show me where did I state that Scotland had done a UDI and that Tadic should ask about that non-existent UDI. Anyone who read my posts properly would know that I was referring to the independence aspirations currently underway in Scotland which Tadic should ask about. Trust you to bark up the wrong tree again.

what about K-Serbs who don't wanna live under Pristina's "sovereignty"? (especially those in the north who are a big majority there).
(lowe, 18 November 2011 06:27)

"Who told you that ?! They haven’t declared independence from Kosovo."

Tell me why they must declare independence from Kosovo because they don't want to be under Pristina. They see themselves as part of Serbia.

Moreover that sentence of mine must be taken in the context of my reply to that poster who talked about K-Albanian rights not to live as part of Serbia. I was asking him/her whether the same rights should be given to K-Serbs who don't wanna live as part of "Kosova". So far he/she has not replied. But trust you once more to jump in headlong and bark up the wrong tree, yet again.

Show me where did I state that Scotland had done a UDI and that Tadic should ask about that non-existent UDI. Anyone who read my posts properly would know that I was referring to the independence aspirations currently underway in Scotland which Tadic should ask about. Trust you to bark up the wrong tree again.
(lowe, 20 November 2011 04:35)

Independence aspirations are expressed via a declaration supported by the majority of the entity which has those aspirations, not by posts in online forums. There is no such a thing as independence aspirations of the majority of Scotland. So Boris can't ask about something that does not exist.

"Well, N. Kosovo is part of Kosovo. So, if N. Kosovo does not want to be part of Kosovo, it has to declare that.

Note, we are not discussing here if Kosovo, N. Kosovo, etc, are part of Serbia, Balkans, Europe, or Earth. Let's assume they are. That does not change the fact that N. Kosovo is still part of Kosovo. N. Kosovo has been part of Kosovo even before 1999 and never declared any desire to not be part of Kosovo.
(icj1, 20 November 2011 14:40) "

I think you are wrong. N Kosovo would declare independence only from an entity that it accepts to be a state. Since the K-Serbs don't accept Kosovo's statehood, how can they declare independence from a state that doesn't exist for them?????? Show me examples of states declaring independence from non-states!

"Independence aspirations are expressed via a declaration supported by the majority of the entity which has those aspirations, not by posts in online forums. There is no such a thing as independence aspirations of the majority of Scotland. So Boris can't ask about something that does not exist.
(icj1, 20 November 2011 14:33) "

Only a referendum can determine whether the Scots want independence -- which Edinburgh has the intentin to organize one soon.

However in your earlier post, you stated that Scotland had not done a UDI and Tadic should not ask about that UDI. My point to you was that I never said that the Scots did any UDI nor that Tadic should ask his hosts about that UDI.