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Wednesday, 02.11.2011.

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FBI in Belgrade to probe Sarajevo embassy case

U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) representatives investigating the terrorist attack on the U.S. Embassy in Sarajevo have arrived in Belgrade.

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c9

pre 12 godina

Valid point, but if part of those terrorist organisations have operations in Sandzak (which is part of Serbia, after all), and if this guy has roots on Serbian legal territory, then doesn't it make sense for the FBI to be heading to Serbia? Besides, they've just arrived there - I doubt they'd actually completely ignore Bosnia or Sarajevo in the next couple of days/weeks.
(Stefan, 3 November 2011 08:08)

Are you kidding me stefan, your are not too bright are you.. Did the attack happen in Serbia? NO, it happened in Bosnia. Who cares if he is from Sandzak, so if a serb from belgrade but lived in the Germany, did an attack, why on earth would they go back to Belgrade.. Lastly, the FBI knows all the terrorist organizations that exist and unless an American or american property is violated, nothing will happen. USA is the country that took the KLA out of the list of terrorist groups..

use some broad thinking before spewing out garbage..

NATO

pre 12 godina

All I'm saying is last time Serbia refused to cooperate with investigators over something that happened in Sarajevo, WWI happened and Serbia lost 1/3 of its population. That's all I'm saying...

lowe

pre 12 godina

“Note my previous post, Marty's report generated no new information regarding the alleged organ trafficking, he only what has previously been said but no one to date (including Marty) has been able to substantiate the claims. However the atrocities of the Milosevic era is well documented and proven in many arenas.
I have not changed my opinion on Marty's report, it is what it is. A collection of intel that anyone with a computer could have put together from available sources.
(an observation, 3 November 2011 16:58)”

I have noted your previous post – and it seems to contradict your reply to mine. You now claimed that Marty could not substantiate what he wrote. Yet your reply to me on 2 Nov stated that what he wrote was “undisputed and well proven”. You really ought to make up your mind once and for all whether what he wrote is realiable or not, and stop your penchant for self-contradiction.

an observation

pre 12 godina

So you consider Marty's report to be gospel truth ("well proven" being your words) ...... yet Albanians and pro-Albanians were, I recalled, the most vehement condemners of that report and Marty himself. Changed your mind now when it suits you?
(lowe, 3 November 2011 02:14)
Note my previous post, Marty's report generated no new information regarding the alleged organ trafficking, he only what has previously been said but no one to date (including Marty) has been able to substantiate the claims. However the atrocities of the Milosevic era is well documented and proven in many arenas.
I have not changed my opinion on Marty's report, it is what it is. A collection of intel that anyone with a computer could have put together from available sources.

Danilo

pre 12 godina

I'm sure they're investigating in Bosnia too.

I was just answering "why are they in Serbia". They can be in Bosnia at the same time. WHy are Serbs so prone to either/or thinking?

Stefan

pre 12 godina

@Danilo,

God you are such a smart ass arnt you? Yes he was from Sandzak, I can read thank you very much. You must be so naive to think that because he was from Sandzak that he has no connection to Bosnia what so ever. All of the Islamist groups in the Balkans are conncected, not just the extremeists but the religious groups as well, not to mention their politics. May I remind you that Ejup Ganic, Izetbegovic's 2nd in command during the war, and president of the Federation of BiH from both 1997-199 and 2000-2001 is also from Sandzak, to be precise a village called Sebecevo near Novi Pazar. Both muslims from Bosnia and Sandzak also give themselves the pathetic western-created identity of 'Bosniaks' or 'Bosnjaci'. One more point, if there was no connection with Bosnian muslims then why was the attack on the US embassy in Sarajevo and not in Belgrade? Exactly, so although Sandzak needs no be under surveillance, Bosnia is the place where the FBI want to go if they really want to get to the bottom of this issue.

You really are an easy person to argue against, Danilo.
(SCP UK, 2 November 2011 19:14)

Valid point, but if part of those terrorist organisations have operations in Sandzak (which is part of Serbia, after all), and if this guy has roots on Serbian legal territory, then doesn't it make sense for the FBI to be heading to Serbia? Besides, they've just arrived there - I doubt they'd actually completely ignore Bosnia or Sarajevo in the next couple of days/weeks.

Wally

pre 12 godina

observation-we shall see. Where there's smoke there's usually fire. Medicus and all that subhuman behaviour seems real enough to me. Whether there will be a smoking gun to the snake is another matter, many witnesses killed or intimidated I am sure. My point being you offer nothing new but the usual Serbs bad, albanians good narrative. Very facile.

lowe

pre 12 godina

"Using your logic and the fact that the brutal and harsh treatment of Kosovo Albanians is undisputed and well proven (taken from D Marty's report) during the Milosevic years then you feel that Albanian attacks on Kosovo Serbs now are somewhat deserved???

Or does your standard on pertain to nonSerbs??
(an observation, 2 November 2011 15:44)"

My stand on this thread pertained to that Muslim's attack on the Yankee embassy. This is obvious to me and should be obvious to anyone with any brains.

So you consider Marty's report to be gospel truth ("well proven" being your words) ...... yet Albanians and pro-Albanians were, I recalled, the most vehement condemners of that report and Marty himself. Changed your mind now when it suits you?

an observation

pre 12 godina

observation-so the Marty report is true. Or is it just the bit that pertains to Serbian "repression".
(Wally, 2 November 2011 16:38)
Apparently you are not familiar with the report itself, only the Serbian hype that surrounds it. The report itself bears NO new information regarding the organ trafficking claims, it is just a repeat of the rumors that that were circulated for years and the basis of the previous investigations of the ICTY, UNMIK. For which both concluded that there was nothing to substantiate the rumors.
So the answer to your question is yes it is true that these allegations exist. Is there something that will substantiate the claims, we shall see but it is doubtful.

SCP UK

pre 12 godina

@Danilo,

God you are such a smart ass arnt you? Yes he was from Sandzak, I can read thank you very much. You must be so naive to think that because he was from Sandzak that he has no connection to Bosnia what so ever. All of the Islamist groups in the Balkans are conncected, not just the extremeists but the religious groups as well, not to mention their politics. May I remind you that Ejup Ganic, Izetbegovic's 2nd in command during the war, and president of the Federation of BiH from both 1997-199 and 2000-2001 is also from Sandzak, to be precise a village called Sebecevo near Novi Pazar. Both muslims from Bosnia and Sandzak also give themselves the pathetic western-created identity of 'Bosniaks' or 'Bosnjaci'. One more point, if there was no connection with Bosnian muslims then why was the attack on the US embassy in Sarajevo and not in Belgrade? Exactly, so although Sandzak needs no be under surveillance, Bosnia is the place where the FBI want to go if they really want to get to the bottom of this issue.

You really are an easy person to argue against, Danilo.

geral

pre 12 godina

See evidence of the emerging evil confronting mankind at the direction of the fbi/cia's own terrorists:

http://barbarahartwellvscia.blogspot.com/2011/10/

http://www.sosbeevfbi.com/part4-worldinabo.html

Zoran

pre 12 godina

As you sow so shall you reap. It looks like these genetically modified seeds turned into weeds. They should sow them in their home soil next time.

ida

pre 12 godina

I don't think Serbia should bother helping the U.S. on all this. It was the U.S. which has heavily supported Muslim terrorists for years and they still fund and prop up Muslims in Serbia. They gift a disproportionate share to the Muslims of Serbia and for mosques: "U.S. government funds mosque renovation and rehabilitation around the world http://dailycaller.com/2010/08/24/u-s-government-funds-mosque-renovation-and-rehabilitation-around-the-world/#ixzz1Sa6TiTfg"

If the Balkan Muslims start attacking the U.S. embassies and personnel it is a win-win situation for Serbs as both are sneaky, rotten and harmful towards Serbs.

Secondly, why doesn't the FBI go to the news crew which obviously had advance warning as it was already there set up to film the guy arriving.

Steve B.

pre 12 godina

Good. Welcome the FBI in Serbia. Let them get rid of these criminals from Serbian soil. You wouldn't argue with your enemy pulling the weeds out from your lawn would you?

lowe

pre 12 godina

"no, Iowe. I got that. Just answering the confusion as to why people are landing in Serbia to investigate this.
(Danilo, 2 November 2011 15:30)"

What confusion except perhaps in your own mind? Looks to me the first two posters were into ironic sarcasm. At the Yankees' expense of course, well-deserved too I must add.

lowe

pre 12 godina

" So, SCP UK and Another Canadian Serb, please condemn US where it’s deserved (and often it is). But it doesn’t seem so in this case – it just seems like an unthinking condemnation of US without considering the merits or justification of the attack. Such blanket condemnation at everything only serves to invalidate your other - appropriate - criticisms.

Peace and respect to all

GRUK
(GRUK, 2 November 2011 14:21)"

I think the issue here is not so much that an attack took place on that Yankee embassy, but rather what these Yankees must have done to make others hate them enough to carry out the loweattack.

an observation

pre 12 godina

I think the issue here is not so much that an attack took place on that Yankee embassy, but rather what these Yankees must have done to make others hate them enough to carry out the loweattack.
(lowe, 2 November 2011 15:07)
Using your logic and the fact that the brutal and harsh treatment of Kosovo Albanians is undisputed and well proven (taken from D Marty's report) during the Milosevic years then you feel that Albanian attacks on Kosovo Serbs now are somewhat deserved???

Or does your standard on pertain to nonSerbs??

Aura

pre 12 godina

Of course it is the Americans fault there are Mujhideen and Wahabbis in the Balkans. On the other hand,they have asked us for our help and we should give it to them. Maybe I am too forgiving, but if they put out their hand we should take it and this may be a small way of them doing it. I also think it is a show of respect for our police and intelligence services, as they are the most capable in the region to deal with this and understand these problems. Just my 2 cents.

GRUK

pre 12 godina

Can you imagine the response if the FBI did not talk with Serbia on this matter? After all, the suspect, Jašarević, is from Serbia, so the Serbian authorities may have vital information. Also, the suspect may be or has been involved in illegal activity in or against Serbs. Had the FBI not talked with Serbia, people like Another Canadian Serb and SCP UK would claim that this is an example of US neglecting and disregarding Serbia.

I suspect that the Serbian intelligence community are pleased to be involved in responding to this terrorist attack - and will want to offer their expertise. So, SCP UK and Another Canadian Serb, please condemn US where it’s deserved (and often it is). But it doesn’t seem so in this case – it just seems like an unthinking condemnation of US without considering the merits or justification of the attack. Such blanket condemnation at everything only serves to invalidate your other - appropriate - criticisms.

Peace and respect to all

GRUK

lowe

pre 12 godina

"Did you guys not get the memo?

This guy was from Serbia (Sandzak)
(Danilo, 2 November 2011 14:06)"

He is ethnic Muslim too -- or did you not read the memo properly yourself? And yet presume yourself qualified to chastise others.

Wonders never cease I must say ..... I thought all Muslims are now so in love with these Yankees after "Kosova", Libya, Syria, Arab Spring? No?

SCP UK

pre 12 godina

I totally agree with Another Canadian Serb, this really is quite hilarious.

Maybe it would be more suitable if the FBI went to places like Sarajevo, Zenica or Tuzla and go and revisit those they were meeting up and getting comfortable with in the early 90s, and ask them what they are doing. The Americans are either stupid or created such a sitution on purpose to keep themselves at the centre of international affairs, I think both are true.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 12 godina

Wow, a Wahhabi gets killed in the act of terrorism on Bosniak soil and the US comes to Belgrade for an investigation.

The same Wahhabis that were armed and funded by the US during the Bosnian wars.

Is this for real? Or is this some new reality show?

Another Canadian Serb

pre 12 godina

Wow, a Wahhabi gets killed in the act of terrorism on Bosniak soil and the US comes to Belgrade for an investigation.

The same Wahhabis that were armed and funded by the US during the Bosnian wars.

Is this for real? Or is this some new reality show?

SCP UK

pre 12 godina

I totally agree with Another Canadian Serb, this really is quite hilarious.

Maybe it would be more suitable if the FBI went to places like Sarajevo, Zenica or Tuzla and go and revisit those they were meeting up and getting comfortable with in the early 90s, and ask them what they are doing. The Americans are either stupid or created such a sitution on purpose to keep themselves at the centre of international affairs, I think both are true.

lowe

pre 12 godina

"Did you guys not get the memo?

This guy was from Serbia (Sandzak)
(Danilo, 2 November 2011 14:06)"

He is ethnic Muslim too -- or did you not read the memo properly yourself? And yet presume yourself qualified to chastise others.

Wonders never cease I must say ..... I thought all Muslims are now so in love with these Yankees after "Kosova", Libya, Syria, Arab Spring? No?

lowe

pre 12 godina

" So, SCP UK and Another Canadian Serb, please condemn US where it’s deserved (and often it is). But it doesn’t seem so in this case – it just seems like an unthinking condemnation of US without considering the merits or justification of the attack. Such blanket condemnation at everything only serves to invalidate your other - appropriate - criticisms.

Peace and respect to all

GRUK
(GRUK, 2 November 2011 14:21)"

I think the issue here is not so much that an attack took place on that Yankee embassy, but rather what these Yankees must have done to make others hate them enough to carry out the loweattack.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

As you sow so shall you reap. It looks like these genetically modified seeds turned into weeds. They should sow them in their home soil next time.

Aura

pre 12 godina

Of course it is the Americans fault there are Mujhideen and Wahabbis in the Balkans. On the other hand,they have asked us for our help and we should give it to them. Maybe I am too forgiving, but if they put out their hand we should take it and this may be a small way of them doing it. I also think it is a show of respect for our police and intelligence services, as they are the most capable in the region to deal with this and understand these problems. Just my 2 cents.

Steve B.

pre 12 godina

Good. Welcome the FBI in Serbia. Let them get rid of these criminals from Serbian soil. You wouldn't argue with your enemy pulling the weeds out from your lawn would you?

SCP UK

pre 12 godina

@Danilo,

God you are such a smart ass arnt you? Yes he was from Sandzak, I can read thank you very much. You must be so naive to think that because he was from Sandzak that he has no connection to Bosnia what so ever. All of the Islamist groups in the Balkans are conncected, not just the extremeists but the religious groups as well, not to mention their politics. May I remind you that Ejup Ganic, Izetbegovic's 2nd in command during the war, and president of the Federation of BiH from both 1997-199 and 2000-2001 is also from Sandzak, to be precise a village called Sebecevo near Novi Pazar. Both muslims from Bosnia and Sandzak also give themselves the pathetic western-created identity of 'Bosniaks' or 'Bosnjaci'. One more point, if there was no connection with Bosnian muslims then why was the attack on the US embassy in Sarajevo and not in Belgrade? Exactly, so although Sandzak needs no be under surveillance, Bosnia is the place where the FBI want to go if they really want to get to the bottom of this issue.

You really are an easy person to argue against, Danilo.

lowe

pre 12 godina

"no, Iowe. I got that. Just answering the confusion as to why people are landing in Serbia to investigate this.
(Danilo, 2 November 2011 15:30)"

What confusion except perhaps in your own mind? Looks to me the first two posters were into ironic sarcasm. At the Yankees' expense of course, well-deserved too I must add.

ida

pre 12 godina

I don't think Serbia should bother helping the U.S. on all this. It was the U.S. which has heavily supported Muslim terrorists for years and they still fund and prop up Muslims in Serbia. They gift a disproportionate share to the Muslims of Serbia and for mosques: "U.S. government funds mosque renovation and rehabilitation around the world http://dailycaller.com/2010/08/24/u-s-government-funds-mosque-renovation-and-rehabilitation-around-the-world/#ixzz1Sa6TiTfg"

If the Balkan Muslims start attacking the U.S. embassies and personnel it is a win-win situation for Serbs as both are sneaky, rotten and harmful towards Serbs.

Secondly, why doesn't the FBI go to the news crew which obviously had advance warning as it was already there set up to film the guy arriving.

GRUK

pre 12 godina

Can you imagine the response if the FBI did not talk with Serbia on this matter? After all, the suspect, Jašarević, is from Serbia, so the Serbian authorities may have vital information. Also, the suspect may be or has been involved in illegal activity in or against Serbs. Had the FBI not talked with Serbia, people like Another Canadian Serb and SCP UK would claim that this is an example of US neglecting and disregarding Serbia.

I suspect that the Serbian intelligence community are pleased to be involved in responding to this terrorist attack - and will want to offer their expertise. So, SCP UK and Another Canadian Serb, please condemn US where it’s deserved (and often it is). But it doesn’t seem so in this case – it just seems like an unthinking condemnation of US without considering the merits or justification of the attack. Such blanket condemnation at everything only serves to invalidate your other - appropriate - criticisms.

Peace and respect to all

GRUK

lowe

pre 12 godina

"Using your logic and the fact that the brutal and harsh treatment of Kosovo Albanians is undisputed and well proven (taken from D Marty's report) during the Milosevic years then you feel that Albanian attacks on Kosovo Serbs now are somewhat deserved???

Or does your standard on pertain to nonSerbs??
(an observation, 2 November 2011 15:44)"

My stand on this thread pertained to that Muslim's attack on the Yankee embassy. This is obvious to me and should be obvious to anyone with any brains.

So you consider Marty's report to be gospel truth ("well proven" being your words) ...... yet Albanians and pro-Albanians were, I recalled, the most vehement condemners of that report and Marty himself. Changed your mind now when it suits you?

an observation

pre 12 godina

I think the issue here is not so much that an attack took place on that Yankee embassy, but rather what these Yankees must have done to make others hate them enough to carry out the loweattack.
(lowe, 2 November 2011 15:07)
Using your logic and the fact that the brutal and harsh treatment of Kosovo Albanians is undisputed and well proven (taken from D Marty's report) during the Milosevic years then you feel that Albanian attacks on Kosovo Serbs now are somewhat deserved???

Or does your standard on pertain to nonSerbs??

Wally

pre 12 godina

observation-we shall see. Where there's smoke there's usually fire. Medicus and all that subhuman behaviour seems real enough to me. Whether there will be a smoking gun to the snake is another matter, many witnesses killed or intimidated I am sure. My point being you offer nothing new but the usual Serbs bad, albanians good narrative. Very facile.

lowe

pre 12 godina

“Note my previous post, Marty's report generated no new information regarding the alleged organ trafficking, he only what has previously been said but no one to date (including Marty) has been able to substantiate the claims. However the atrocities of the Milosevic era is well documented and proven in many arenas.
I have not changed my opinion on Marty's report, it is what it is. A collection of intel that anyone with a computer could have put together from available sources.
(an observation, 3 November 2011 16:58)”

I have noted your previous post – and it seems to contradict your reply to mine. You now claimed that Marty could not substantiate what he wrote. Yet your reply to me on 2 Nov stated that what he wrote was “undisputed and well proven”. You really ought to make up your mind once and for all whether what he wrote is realiable or not, and stop your penchant for self-contradiction.

c9

pre 12 godina

Valid point, but if part of those terrorist organisations have operations in Sandzak (which is part of Serbia, after all), and if this guy has roots on Serbian legal territory, then doesn't it make sense for the FBI to be heading to Serbia? Besides, they've just arrived there - I doubt they'd actually completely ignore Bosnia or Sarajevo in the next couple of days/weeks.
(Stefan, 3 November 2011 08:08)

Are you kidding me stefan, your are not too bright are you.. Did the attack happen in Serbia? NO, it happened in Bosnia. Who cares if he is from Sandzak, so if a serb from belgrade but lived in the Germany, did an attack, why on earth would they go back to Belgrade.. Lastly, the FBI knows all the terrorist organizations that exist and unless an American or american property is violated, nothing will happen. USA is the country that took the KLA out of the list of terrorist groups..

use some broad thinking before spewing out garbage..

an observation

pre 12 godina

observation-so the Marty report is true. Or is it just the bit that pertains to Serbian "repression".
(Wally, 2 November 2011 16:38)
Apparently you are not familiar with the report itself, only the Serbian hype that surrounds it. The report itself bears NO new information regarding the organ trafficking claims, it is just a repeat of the rumors that that were circulated for years and the basis of the previous investigations of the ICTY, UNMIK. For which both concluded that there was nothing to substantiate the rumors.
So the answer to your question is yes it is true that these allegations exist. Is there something that will substantiate the claims, we shall see but it is doubtful.

Stefan

pre 12 godina

@Danilo,

God you are such a smart ass arnt you? Yes he was from Sandzak, I can read thank you very much. You must be so naive to think that because he was from Sandzak that he has no connection to Bosnia what so ever. All of the Islamist groups in the Balkans are conncected, not just the extremeists but the religious groups as well, not to mention their politics. May I remind you that Ejup Ganic, Izetbegovic's 2nd in command during the war, and president of the Federation of BiH from both 1997-199 and 2000-2001 is also from Sandzak, to be precise a village called Sebecevo near Novi Pazar. Both muslims from Bosnia and Sandzak also give themselves the pathetic western-created identity of 'Bosniaks' or 'Bosnjaci'. One more point, if there was no connection with Bosnian muslims then why was the attack on the US embassy in Sarajevo and not in Belgrade? Exactly, so although Sandzak needs no be under surveillance, Bosnia is the place where the FBI want to go if they really want to get to the bottom of this issue.

You really are an easy person to argue against, Danilo.
(SCP UK, 2 November 2011 19:14)

Valid point, but if part of those terrorist organisations have operations in Sandzak (which is part of Serbia, after all), and if this guy has roots on Serbian legal territory, then doesn't it make sense for the FBI to be heading to Serbia? Besides, they've just arrived there - I doubt they'd actually completely ignore Bosnia or Sarajevo in the next couple of days/weeks.

Danilo

pre 12 godina

I'm sure they're investigating in Bosnia too.

I was just answering "why are they in Serbia". They can be in Bosnia at the same time. WHy are Serbs so prone to either/or thinking?

an observation

pre 12 godina

So you consider Marty's report to be gospel truth ("well proven" being your words) ...... yet Albanians and pro-Albanians were, I recalled, the most vehement condemners of that report and Marty himself. Changed your mind now when it suits you?
(lowe, 3 November 2011 02:14)
Note my previous post, Marty's report generated no new information regarding the alleged organ trafficking, he only what has previously been said but no one to date (including Marty) has been able to substantiate the claims. However the atrocities of the Milosevic era is well documented and proven in many arenas.
I have not changed my opinion on Marty's report, it is what it is. A collection of intel that anyone with a computer could have put together from available sources.

geral

pre 12 godina

See evidence of the emerging evil confronting mankind at the direction of the fbi/cia's own terrorists:

http://barbarahartwellvscia.blogspot.com/2011/10/

http://www.sosbeevfbi.com/part4-worldinabo.html

NATO

pre 12 godina

All I'm saying is last time Serbia refused to cooperate with investigators over something that happened in Sarajevo, WWI happened and Serbia lost 1/3 of its population. That's all I'm saying...

an observation

pre 12 godina

I think the issue here is not so much that an attack took place on that Yankee embassy, but rather what these Yankees must have done to make others hate them enough to carry out the loweattack.
(lowe, 2 November 2011 15:07)
Using your logic and the fact that the brutal and harsh treatment of Kosovo Albanians is undisputed and well proven (taken from D Marty's report) during the Milosevic years then you feel that Albanian attacks on Kosovo Serbs now are somewhat deserved???

Or does your standard on pertain to nonSerbs??

Aura

pre 12 godina

Of course it is the Americans fault there are Mujhideen and Wahabbis in the Balkans. On the other hand,they have asked us for our help and we should give it to them. Maybe I am too forgiving, but if they put out their hand we should take it and this may be a small way of them doing it. I also think it is a show of respect for our police and intelligence services, as they are the most capable in the region to deal with this and understand these problems. Just my 2 cents.

lowe

pre 12 godina

"Did you guys not get the memo?

This guy was from Serbia (Sandzak)
(Danilo, 2 November 2011 14:06)"

He is ethnic Muslim too -- or did you not read the memo properly yourself? And yet presume yourself qualified to chastise others.

Wonders never cease I must say ..... I thought all Muslims are now so in love with these Yankees after "Kosova", Libya, Syria, Arab Spring? No?

ida

pre 12 godina

I don't think Serbia should bother helping the U.S. on all this. It was the U.S. which has heavily supported Muslim terrorists for years and they still fund and prop up Muslims in Serbia. They gift a disproportionate share to the Muslims of Serbia and for mosques: "U.S. government funds mosque renovation and rehabilitation around the world http://dailycaller.com/2010/08/24/u-s-government-funds-mosque-renovation-and-rehabilitation-around-the-world/#ixzz1Sa6TiTfg"

If the Balkan Muslims start attacking the U.S. embassies and personnel it is a win-win situation for Serbs as both are sneaky, rotten and harmful towards Serbs.

Secondly, why doesn't the FBI go to the news crew which obviously had advance warning as it was already there set up to film the guy arriving.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 12 godina

Wow, a Wahhabi gets killed in the act of terrorism on Bosniak soil and the US comes to Belgrade for an investigation.

The same Wahhabis that were armed and funded by the US during the Bosnian wars.

Is this for real? Or is this some new reality show?

Zoran

pre 12 godina

As you sow so shall you reap. It looks like these genetically modified seeds turned into weeds. They should sow them in their home soil next time.

Danilo

pre 12 godina

I'm sure they're investigating in Bosnia too.

I was just answering "why are they in Serbia". They can be in Bosnia at the same time. WHy are Serbs so prone to either/or thinking?

SCP UK

pre 12 godina

I totally agree with Another Canadian Serb, this really is quite hilarious.

Maybe it would be more suitable if the FBI went to places like Sarajevo, Zenica or Tuzla and go and revisit those they were meeting up and getting comfortable with in the early 90s, and ask them what they are doing. The Americans are either stupid or created such a sitution on purpose to keep themselves at the centre of international affairs, I think both are true.

an observation

pre 12 godina

observation-so the Marty report is true. Or is it just the bit that pertains to Serbian "repression".
(Wally, 2 November 2011 16:38)
Apparently you are not familiar with the report itself, only the Serbian hype that surrounds it. The report itself bears NO new information regarding the organ trafficking claims, it is just a repeat of the rumors that that were circulated for years and the basis of the previous investigations of the ICTY, UNMIK. For which both concluded that there was nothing to substantiate the rumors.
So the answer to your question is yes it is true that these allegations exist. Is there something that will substantiate the claims, we shall see but it is doubtful.

an observation

pre 12 godina

So you consider Marty's report to be gospel truth ("well proven" being your words) ...... yet Albanians and pro-Albanians were, I recalled, the most vehement condemners of that report and Marty himself. Changed your mind now when it suits you?
(lowe, 3 November 2011 02:14)
Note my previous post, Marty's report generated no new information regarding the alleged organ trafficking, he only what has previously been said but no one to date (including Marty) has been able to substantiate the claims. However the atrocities of the Milosevic era is well documented and proven in many arenas.
I have not changed my opinion on Marty's report, it is what it is. A collection of intel that anyone with a computer could have put together from available sources.

lowe

pre 12 godina

" So, SCP UK and Another Canadian Serb, please condemn US where it’s deserved (and often it is). But it doesn’t seem so in this case – it just seems like an unthinking condemnation of US without considering the merits or justification of the attack. Such blanket condemnation at everything only serves to invalidate your other - appropriate - criticisms.

Peace and respect to all

GRUK
(GRUK, 2 November 2011 14:21)"

I think the issue here is not so much that an attack took place on that Yankee embassy, but rather what these Yankees must have done to make others hate them enough to carry out the loweattack.

lowe

pre 12 godina

"no, Iowe. I got that. Just answering the confusion as to why people are landing in Serbia to investigate this.
(Danilo, 2 November 2011 15:30)"

What confusion except perhaps in your own mind? Looks to me the first two posters were into ironic sarcasm. At the Yankees' expense of course, well-deserved too I must add.

Steve B.

pre 12 godina

Good. Welcome the FBI in Serbia. Let them get rid of these criminals from Serbian soil. You wouldn't argue with your enemy pulling the weeds out from your lawn would you?

SCP UK

pre 12 godina

@Danilo,

God you are such a smart ass arnt you? Yes he was from Sandzak, I can read thank you very much. You must be so naive to think that because he was from Sandzak that he has no connection to Bosnia what so ever. All of the Islamist groups in the Balkans are conncected, not just the extremeists but the religious groups as well, not to mention their politics. May I remind you that Ejup Ganic, Izetbegovic's 2nd in command during the war, and president of the Federation of BiH from both 1997-199 and 2000-2001 is also from Sandzak, to be precise a village called Sebecevo near Novi Pazar. Both muslims from Bosnia and Sandzak also give themselves the pathetic western-created identity of 'Bosniaks' or 'Bosnjaci'. One more point, if there was no connection with Bosnian muslims then why was the attack on the US embassy in Sarajevo and not in Belgrade? Exactly, so although Sandzak needs no be under surveillance, Bosnia is the place where the FBI want to go if they really want to get to the bottom of this issue.

You really are an easy person to argue against, Danilo.

NATO

pre 12 godina

All I'm saying is last time Serbia refused to cooperate with investigators over something that happened in Sarajevo, WWI happened and Serbia lost 1/3 of its population. That's all I'm saying...

GRUK

pre 12 godina

Can you imagine the response if the FBI did not talk with Serbia on this matter? After all, the suspect, Jašarević, is from Serbia, so the Serbian authorities may have vital information. Also, the suspect may be or has been involved in illegal activity in or against Serbs. Had the FBI not talked with Serbia, people like Another Canadian Serb and SCP UK would claim that this is an example of US neglecting and disregarding Serbia.

I suspect that the Serbian intelligence community are pleased to be involved in responding to this terrorist attack - and will want to offer their expertise. So, SCP UK and Another Canadian Serb, please condemn US where it’s deserved (and often it is). But it doesn’t seem so in this case – it just seems like an unthinking condemnation of US without considering the merits or justification of the attack. Such blanket condemnation at everything only serves to invalidate your other - appropriate - criticisms.

Peace and respect to all

GRUK

geral

pre 12 godina

See evidence of the emerging evil confronting mankind at the direction of the fbi/cia's own terrorists:

http://barbarahartwellvscia.blogspot.com/2011/10/

http://www.sosbeevfbi.com/part4-worldinabo.html

lowe

pre 12 godina

“Note my previous post, Marty's report generated no new information regarding the alleged organ trafficking, he only what has previously been said but no one to date (including Marty) has been able to substantiate the claims. However the atrocities of the Milosevic era is well documented and proven in many arenas.
I have not changed my opinion on Marty's report, it is what it is. A collection of intel that anyone with a computer could have put together from available sources.
(an observation, 3 November 2011 16:58)”

I have noted your previous post – and it seems to contradict your reply to mine. You now claimed that Marty could not substantiate what he wrote. Yet your reply to me on 2 Nov stated that what he wrote was “undisputed and well proven”. You really ought to make up your mind once and for all whether what he wrote is realiable or not, and stop your penchant for self-contradiction.

lowe

pre 12 godina

"Using your logic and the fact that the brutal and harsh treatment of Kosovo Albanians is undisputed and well proven (taken from D Marty's report) during the Milosevic years then you feel that Albanian attacks on Kosovo Serbs now are somewhat deserved???

Or does your standard on pertain to nonSerbs??
(an observation, 2 November 2011 15:44)"

My stand on this thread pertained to that Muslim's attack on the Yankee embassy. This is obvious to me and should be obvious to anyone with any brains.

So you consider Marty's report to be gospel truth ("well proven" being your words) ...... yet Albanians and pro-Albanians were, I recalled, the most vehement condemners of that report and Marty himself. Changed your mind now when it suits you?

Wally

pre 12 godina

observation-we shall see. Where there's smoke there's usually fire. Medicus and all that subhuman behaviour seems real enough to me. Whether there will be a smoking gun to the snake is another matter, many witnesses killed or intimidated I am sure. My point being you offer nothing new but the usual Serbs bad, albanians good narrative. Very facile.

Stefan

pre 12 godina

@Danilo,

God you are such a smart ass arnt you? Yes he was from Sandzak, I can read thank you very much. You must be so naive to think that because he was from Sandzak that he has no connection to Bosnia what so ever. All of the Islamist groups in the Balkans are conncected, not just the extremeists but the religious groups as well, not to mention their politics. May I remind you that Ejup Ganic, Izetbegovic's 2nd in command during the war, and president of the Federation of BiH from both 1997-199 and 2000-2001 is also from Sandzak, to be precise a village called Sebecevo near Novi Pazar. Both muslims from Bosnia and Sandzak also give themselves the pathetic western-created identity of 'Bosniaks' or 'Bosnjaci'. One more point, if there was no connection with Bosnian muslims then why was the attack on the US embassy in Sarajevo and not in Belgrade? Exactly, so although Sandzak needs no be under surveillance, Bosnia is the place where the FBI want to go if they really want to get to the bottom of this issue.

You really are an easy person to argue against, Danilo.
(SCP UK, 2 November 2011 19:14)

Valid point, but if part of those terrorist organisations have operations in Sandzak (which is part of Serbia, after all), and if this guy has roots on Serbian legal territory, then doesn't it make sense for the FBI to be heading to Serbia? Besides, they've just arrived there - I doubt they'd actually completely ignore Bosnia or Sarajevo in the next couple of days/weeks.

c9

pre 12 godina

Valid point, but if part of those terrorist organisations have operations in Sandzak (which is part of Serbia, after all), and if this guy has roots on Serbian legal territory, then doesn't it make sense for the FBI to be heading to Serbia? Besides, they've just arrived there - I doubt they'd actually completely ignore Bosnia or Sarajevo in the next couple of days/weeks.
(Stefan, 3 November 2011 08:08)

Are you kidding me stefan, your are not too bright are you.. Did the attack happen in Serbia? NO, it happened in Bosnia. Who cares if he is from Sandzak, so if a serb from belgrade but lived in the Germany, did an attack, why on earth would they go back to Belgrade.. Lastly, the FBI knows all the terrorist organizations that exist and unless an American or american property is violated, nothing will happen. USA is the country that took the KLA out of the list of terrorist groups..

use some broad thinking before spewing out garbage..