“NATO won’t let Kosovo tensions turn back time”

Oh yeah, an excellent job. They stood by when the KLA butchered and ethnically cleansed thousands of Serbs in 1999, they stood by when hundreds of Serb religious and other sites were demolished and 'en passant' more Serbs were ethnically cleansed, they stand by when Serbs are being attacked in the enclaves. You can be proud of yourself Nato.
Well, given your reputation of bombing countries to bits and starving Iraqees during the oil for food programme, this Kosovo business is peanuts of course.

You f'ing imperialsists. Who the hell gives the NATO the right to impose it's will on countries around the world? I cannot wait for this military evil to perish. The world will then be a more peaceful place.

We must cogratulate the Germans, after two world wars and the threat of a new Great Depression they finally own Europe. Now with all the ducks in line they can finally get back to their favourite sport-slav bashing. If they can humiliate the Serbs then maybe...maybe Russia-third time lucky and all that.

This man's refusal to condemn Albanian crimes against Serbs and his rhetoric which threatens Serbia's position without threatening tells us all we need to know-if the Serbs in Kosovo refuse to accept a Kosova then they will be forced out just as they were in Krajina-just as they will be in Bosnia. There will be no independence or autonomy for Serbs.

Did I hear some jack boots clicking together?

balkenbert

yes...its all a conspiracy theory. this place is full of them

The Fact that Time is one directional, makes it difficult for any one of us to turn back Time.

The Secretary General of NATO stated that NATO will not allow recent tensions in Kosovo to turn back Time.

Could he be referring to the Time before NATO schemed to Murder Innocent People and steal Kosovo, and the Time when NATO was Honest to their Charter and obeyed the United Nations Charter and International Law, as the Time that NATO never wants to go back to?

There are many People who think that NATO should move with the Times, and be Honest for a Change, and that they should go Forward in Time in order to join the Human Race.

A Scholar and Historian once said that Any Time is a Good Time to be Wise, and Any Time is a Good Time to do the Right Thing.

Arn.Sweden., 28 October 2011 10:58
Interesting theory but when this Nato war in the middle east of yours comes, then Nato members Hungary, Croatia and Albania will be busy with that war. Nato does not accept desent so they would have to join. Next to that, they will be busy fighting the Jihadist in Bosnia and Kosovo to focus on anything else.

balkanbert

Next time you're in London let me know. I'll pay for the coffees

@(Arn.Sweden., 28 October 2011 10:58)
... any comment to this posting, adriatik?

Arn.Sweden.
(Arn.Sweden., 28 October 2011 13:05)

NATO is on the verge of leaving Afghanistan after pursuing its war against the Taliban – yes that is correct NATO has lost the war after 7 years. Plus the EU is in a financial hole that needs the likes of China Brazil India and Russia to dig it out, and you think NATO is in a position to do all you have listed.
If that is so, Arn my friend you have no concept of military capabilities. I can guarantee you that if NATO/KFOR/EULEX could have used deadly force against the Serbs they would have done so without even thinking. NATO is finished as the organization you know because no military group of this nature can survive after a humiliating defeat such as the one in Afghanistan.

Arn.Sweden., 28 October 2011 10:58
Interesting theory but when this Nato war in the middle east of yours comes, then Nato members Hungary, Croatia and Albania will be busy with that war. Nato does not accept desent so they would have to join. Next to that, they will be busy fighting the Jihadist in Bosnia and Kosovo to focus on anything else.
(Joe A, 28 October 2011 12:16)

Comment -

See that you are no Military or understand Military matters.

Do you really think Hungary,Croatia and Albania can partake in a War in the mideast ?
The Nato War in the Mideast against Iran and Syria will not involve troops from the West,
and Germany will be occupied to as they will say,
protect Poland against Russia and cover the Back of Hungary against any Russian attack.

So you believe that the Nato Troops in Kosovo would fight against the Nato troops of Albania ?

Amazing what kind of understanding you have,
the Natotroops in Kosovo would not stand a chanse against the Houndreds of thousends of Alanians swarming in from Albania either.

Any Nato attemt in Bosnia are in the same situation,
they better hold their peace against the Natotroops swarming in from Croatia backed by Austria,
they would be slaughtered otherwise.

And Sebia would be occupied to just hold her territory as such.

Arn.Sweden.

"You f'ing imperialsists. Who the hell gives the NATO the right to impose it's will on countries around the world? I cannot wait for this military evil to perish. The world will then be a more peaceful place.
Winston"

Who the hell gave Serbia the right to wage war against Slovenia, Croatia, B&H and Kosovo? It it wasn't for Serbia the wars of the 90s would have never happened.

BTW, NATO will never perish. :(

Mr. Rasmussen!! It's time for NATO to leave Kosovo province and let the Serbian troops restore order there and put all the criminals in Pristina in jail.

balkanbert

Next time you're in London let me know. I'll pay for the coffees
(adriatik, 28 October 2011 15:30
===========================

And then what after the coffee? Ten of your mates beating up on him?

You know nothing of future reality.

When the coming Mideast War comenses and Nato is occupied with that,

Albanis will come for Kosovo,
Hungary for Vojvodina,
Kroatia for Bosnia baced millitarily by Austria,
and bouth Hungary and Kroatia suported by Germany,
Bulgaria and Greece for Makedonia
and there is nothing Nato can do about that.

Arn.Sweden.

Apparently there are points where we agree, others where we do not. Good basis for a fruitful discussion. Unfortunately, got back from London 3 weeks ago and do not know when I will come again. Would have proposed a chat over a coffee or something...

Whose benefit is this social experiment?

It doesn't appear to benefit the Serbians living in Kosovo. I don't see how it benefits the Albanians in Kosovo. I don't see how it benefits the NATO countries, specifically mine, to be there.

Why did they draw this boundary this way? It looks like it was intended on being an enforced social experiment.

I'm glad they don't want to "turn back time." I didn't like that song either.

There is a problem. The problem continues to exist. Are we going to stay forever to make this social experiment work? If so, what is the benefit to me, a person whose tax dollars support this but I don't understand why or how it benefits me or the people in this area?

To BMcD.

Then understand this then -

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/10372#.TqrwH3Lt5Aw

Clinton regarding former Yugoslavia,
is as Obama in Libya.

Arn.Sweden.

"You f'ing imperialsists. Who the hell gives the NATO the right to impose it's will on countries around the world? I cannot wait for this military evil to perish. The world will then be a more peaceful place.
Winston"

Who the hell gave Serbia the right to wage war against Slovenia, Croatia, B&H and Kosovo? It it wasn't for Serbia the wars of the 90s would have never happened.

BTW, NATO will never perish. :(
(metrod, 28 October 2011 15:16)

You answered your own question, everyone was YUGOSLAVIA which controlled by the serbs, everyone wanted to SPLIT, so who caused the war..

You must be British

Secondly during YUGOSLAVIA, Croats and other countries had it better then serbs, so don't argue on a topic that you know shit about. If it was bad for Croats, they woulnd't have their coast line and YUGOSLAVIA saved it from the Italians..

“NATO won’t let Kosovo tensions turn back time”

That's good news! So KFOR will stop all silly 'operations' in the north ordered by the Pristina government which are only meant to increase the tension?

Arn.Sweden.
(Arn.Sweden., 28 October 2011 13:05)

NATO is on the verge of leaving Afghanistan after pursuing its war against the Taliban – yes that is correct NATO has lost the war after 7 years. Plus the EU is in a financial hole that needs the likes of China Brazil India and Russia to dig it out, and you think NATO is in a position to do all you have listed.
If that is so, Arn my friend you have no concept of military capabilities. I can guarantee you that if NATO/KFOR/EULEX could have used deadly force against the Serbs they would have done so without even thinking. NATO is finished as the organization you know because no military group of this nature can survive after a humiliating defeat such as the one in Afghanistan.
(sj, 28 October 2011 14:45)

Comment.
I Quote -

and you think NATO is in a position to do all you have listed.

Comment - all Nato Forces aginst Iran is already in the Persian Gulf.
All the Nato-Memberstates Forces - Albanias,Hungarys and Croatias is already in place for the assult i have foretold will come,
as they border the areas they will attack.

Further -

NATO is finished as the organization you know because no military group of this nature can survive after a humiliating defeat such as the one in Afghanistan.

Comment - You err.

Nato will soon be finished because of this coming Balkan war where Nato-Memberstates will go on the Prey in former Yugoslavia.

This will wake up bouth the US and France to the realisation that their Sacrifices,
in the 1st and 2nd World Wars against the Foes of Serbia will be lost, and if they dont take their stand with Serbia,
those Foes will win those Two Worldwars in this Balkanwar to come.

This Will split and Make and end to Nato in the aftermatch.

Further -

I can guarantee you that if NATO/KFOR/EULEX could have used deadly force against the Serbs they would have done so without even thinking.

Comment - sure thing - in your imaginations.

You have no hint of the capability of the Serbians,
and i will not disclose that secret here or to you.

Arn.Sweden.

(Arn.Sweden., 28 October 2011 13:05)
Well Napoleon, I might not be a military man (thank goodness) or understand military strategies but I understand them more than you do.
You say that a Nato war in ME will not involve western troops? So what have all these western troops been doing in the ME ever since Golfwar I, play scrabble? Who will fight the Nato war in ME then? The Turks? I don't think the Turks are stupid.
So, perhaps the Elfs will fight Nato's war in ME. I don't think that Nato will tolerate any go-it-alone- action in central and Eastern Europe. In that case it wil be "you're all alone buddy". Nato solidarity principle only counts is one Nato country is attacked by another country/entity. Not the other way around.
Now, run off to the library and get some books on militrary strategies and tactics. Begin with Sun Zsu and von Clausewitz.

(Joe A, 28 October 2011 17:13)

Ok - i may have been unclear about my Meaning -

There will be no Groudtroops from the West in this Mideast war,
exept the Turkish ones,


The War by Nato will be waged by Airforces and Missiles,
against Bouth Iran and Syria,
not by Groundforces.

I thought anybody understood this,
and especially you,
but you did not.

Arn.Sweden.

You know nothing of future reality.

When the coming Mideast War comenses and Nato is occupied with that,

Albanis will come for Kosovo,
Hungary for Vojvodina,
Kroatia for Bosnia baced millitarily by Austria,
and bouth Hungary and Kroatia suported by Germany,
Bulgaria and Greece for Makedonia
and there is nothing Nato can do about that.

Arn.Sweden.

You f'ing imperialsists. Who the hell gives the NATO the right to impose it's will on countries around the world? I cannot wait for this military evil to perish. The world will then be a more peaceful place.

Oh yeah, an excellent job. They stood by when the KLA butchered and ethnically cleansed thousands of Serbs in 1999, they stood by when hundreds of Serb religious and other sites were demolished and 'en passant' more Serbs were ethnically cleansed, they stand by when Serbs are being attacked in the enclaves. You can be proud of yourself Nato.
Well, given your reputation of bombing countries to bits and starving Iraqees during the oil for food programme, this Kosovo business is peanuts of course.

"You f'ing imperialsists. Who the hell gives the NATO the right to impose it's will on countries around the world? I cannot wait for this military evil to perish. The world will then be a more peaceful place.
Winston"

Who the hell gave Serbia the right to wage war against Slovenia, Croatia, B&H and Kosovo? It it wasn't for Serbia the wars of the 90s would have never happened.

BTW, NATO will never perish. :(

Arn.Sweden., 28 October 2011 10:58
Interesting theory but when this Nato war in the middle east of yours comes, then Nato members Hungary, Croatia and Albania will be busy with that war. Nato does not accept desent so they would have to join. Next to that, they will be busy fighting the Jihadist in Bosnia and Kosovo to focus on anything else.
(Joe A, 28 October 2011 12:16)

Comment -

See that you are no Military or understand Military matters.

Do you really think Hungary,Croatia and Albania can partake in a War in the mideast ?
The Nato War in the Mideast against Iran and Syria will not involve troops from the West,
and Germany will be occupied to as they will say,
protect Poland against Russia and cover the Back of Hungary against any Russian attack.

So you believe that the Nato Troops in Kosovo would fight against the Nato troops of Albania ?

Amazing what kind of understanding you have,
the Natotroops in Kosovo would not stand a chanse against the Houndreds of thousends of Alanians swarming in from Albania either.

Any Nato attemt in Bosnia are in the same situation,
they better hold their peace against the Natotroops swarming in from Croatia backed by Austria,
they would be slaughtered otherwise.

And Sebia would be occupied to just hold her territory as such.

Arn.Sweden.

We must cogratulate the Germans, after two world wars and the threat of a new Great Depression they finally own Europe. Now with all the ducks in line they can finally get back to their favourite sport-slav bashing. If they can humiliate the Serbs then maybe...maybe Russia-third time lucky and all that.

This man's refusal to condemn Albanian crimes against Serbs and his rhetoric which threatens Serbia's position without threatening tells us all we need to know-if the Serbs in Kosovo refuse to accept a Kosova then they will be forced out just as they were in Krajina-just as they will be in Bosnia. There will be no independence or autonomy for Serbs.

Did I hear some jack boots clicking together?

The Fact that Time is one directional, makes it difficult for any one of us to turn back Time.

The Secretary General of NATO stated that NATO will not allow recent tensions in Kosovo to turn back Time.

Could he be referring to the Time before NATO schemed to Murder Innocent People and steal Kosovo, and the Time when NATO was Honest to their Charter and obeyed the United Nations Charter and International Law, as the Time that NATO never wants to go back to?

There are many People who think that NATO should move with the Times, and be Honest for a Change, and that they should go Forward in Time in order to join the Human Race.

A Scholar and Historian once said that Any Time is a Good Time to be Wise, and Any Time is a Good Time to do the Right Thing.

Arn.Sweden., 28 October 2011 10:58
Interesting theory but when this Nato war in the middle east of yours comes, then Nato members Hungary, Croatia and Albania will be busy with that war. Nato does not accept desent so they would have to join. Next to that, they will be busy fighting the Jihadist in Bosnia and Kosovo to focus on anything else.

@(Arn.Sweden., 28 October 2011 10:58)
... any comment to this posting, adriatik?

balkenbert

yes...its all a conspiracy theory. this place is full of them

Arn.Sweden.
(Arn.Sweden., 28 October 2011 13:05)

NATO is on the verge of leaving Afghanistan after pursuing its war against the Taliban – yes that is correct NATO has lost the war after 7 years. Plus the EU is in a financial hole that needs the likes of China Brazil India and Russia to dig it out, and you think NATO is in a position to do all you have listed.
If that is so, Arn my friend you have no concept of military capabilities. I can guarantee you that if NATO/KFOR/EULEX could have used deadly force against the Serbs they would have done so without even thinking. NATO is finished as the organization you know because no military group of this nature can survive after a humiliating defeat such as the one in Afghanistan.

balkanbert

Next time you're in London let me know. I'll pay for the coffees

Arn.Sweden.
(Arn.Sweden., 28 October 2011 13:05)

NATO is on the verge of leaving Afghanistan after pursuing its war against the Taliban – yes that is correct NATO has lost the war after 7 years. Plus the EU is in a financial hole that needs the likes of China Brazil India and Russia to dig it out, and you think NATO is in a position to do all you have listed.
If that is so, Arn my friend you have no concept of military capabilities. I can guarantee you that if NATO/KFOR/EULEX could have used deadly force against the Serbs they would have done so without even thinking. NATO is finished as the organization you know because no military group of this nature can survive after a humiliating defeat such as the one in Afghanistan.
(sj, 28 October 2011 14:45)

Comment.
I Quote -

and you think NATO is in a position to do all you have listed.

Comment - all Nato Forces aginst Iran is already in the Persian Gulf.
All the Nato-Memberstates Forces - Albanias,Hungarys and Croatias is already in place for the assult i have foretold will come,
as they border the areas they will attack.

Further -

NATO is finished as the organization you know because no military group of this nature can survive after a humiliating defeat such as the one in Afghanistan.

Comment - You err.

Nato will soon be finished because of this coming Balkan war where Nato-Memberstates will go on the Prey in former Yugoslavia.

This will wake up bouth the US and France to the realisation that their Sacrifices,
in the 1st and 2nd World Wars against the Foes of Serbia will be lost, and if they dont take their stand with Serbia,
those Foes will win those Two Worldwars in this Balkanwar to come.

This Will split and Make and end to Nato in the aftermatch.

Further -

I can guarantee you that if NATO/KFOR/EULEX could have used deadly force against the Serbs they would have done so without even thinking.

Comment - sure thing - in your imaginations.

You have no hint of the capability of the Serbians,
and i will not disclose that secret here or to you.

Arn.Sweden.

“NATO won’t let Kosovo tensions turn back time”

That's good news! So KFOR will stop all silly 'operations' in the north ordered by the Pristina government which are only meant to increase the tension?

Apparently there are points where we agree, others where we do not. Good basis for a fruitful discussion. Unfortunately, got back from London 3 weeks ago and do not know when I will come again. Would have proposed a chat over a coffee or something...

To BMcD.

Then understand this then -

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/10372#.TqrwH3Lt5Aw

Clinton regarding former Yugoslavia,
is as Obama in Libya.

Arn.Sweden.

Whose benefit is this social experiment?

It doesn't appear to benefit the Serbians living in Kosovo. I don't see how it benefits the Albanians in Kosovo. I don't see how it benefits the NATO countries, specifically mine, to be there.

Why did they draw this boundary this way? It looks like it was intended on being an enforced social experiment.

I'm glad they don't want to "turn back time." I didn't like that song either.

There is a problem. The problem continues to exist. Are we going to stay forever to make this social experiment work? If so, what is the benefit to me, a person whose tax dollars support this but I don't understand why or how it benefits me or the people in this area?

balkanbert

Next time you're in London let me know. I'll pay for the coffees
(adriatik, 28 October 2011 15:30
===========================

And then what after the coffee? Ten of your mates beating up on him?

Mr. Rasmussen!! It's time for NATO to leave Kosovo province and let the Serbian troops restore order there and put all the criminals in Pristina in jail.

(Arn.Sweden., 28 October 2011 13:05)
Well Napoleon, I might not be a military man (thank goodness) or understand military strategies but I understand them more than you do.
You say that a Nato war in ME will not involve western troops? So what have all these western troops been doing in the ME ever since Golfwar I, play scrabble? Who will fight the Nato war in ME then? The Turks? I don't think the Turks are stupid.
So, perhaps the Elfs will fight Nato's war in ME. I don't think that Nato will tolerate any go-it-alone- action in central and Eastern Europe. In that case it wil be "you're all alone buddy". Nato solidarity principle only counts is one Nato country is attacked by another country/entity. Not the other way around.
Now, run off to the library and get some books on militrary strategies and tactics. Begin with Sun Zsu and von Clausewitz.

"You f'ing imperialsists. Who the hell gives the NATO the right to impose it's will on countries around the world? I cannot wait for this military evil to perish. The world will then be a more peaceful place.
Winston"

Who the hell gave Serbia the right to wage war against Slovenia, Croatia, B&H and Kosovo? It it wasn't for Serbia the wars of the 90s would have never happened.

BTW, NATO will never perish. :(
(metrod, 28 October 2011 15:16)

You answered your own question, everyone was YUGOSLAVIA which controlled by the serbs, everyone wanted to SPLIT, so who caused the war..

You must be British

Secondly during YUGOSLAVIA, Croats and other countries had it better then serbs, so don't argue on a topic that you know shit about. If it was bad for Croats, they woulnd't have their coast line and YUGOSLAVIA saved it from the Italians..

(Joe A, 28 October 2011 17:13)

Ok - i may have been unclear about my Meaning -

There will be no Groudtroops from the West in this Mideast war,
exept the Turkish ones,


The War by Nato will be waged by Airforces and Missiles,
against Bouth Iran and Syria,
not by Groundforces.

I thought anybody understood this,
and especially you,
but you did not.

Arn.Sweden.