Interior minister: Time for more decisive action

He added that everything needed to be discussed, even the exchange of territory.

Now we are talking some sense. Eastern Kosova(Presheva,Bujanos&Medvedja) for northern Mitro. Any takers?

You don't have the force to threat anyone Dacic. You just got an big mouth.

What's your opinion about Kosovo, really ? It seems you have twenty different opinions.

Are you ready to give up preshevo valley for north Kosovo ??

"How about a deal that benefits everyone, Pristina gives up its fruitless independence attempts and in return everyone there gets a better life"

Go ahead and try and convince 1.8 million people that they should join with Serbia again. Be my guest.

A Russian base in Nis would ensure the Americans stay in Kosovo for a very very long time

Serbia has anew Slobodan wannabe. Imagine independence for 3 villages ?! How absurd

‘A Russian base will be in Niš as of today’,”

Ummmm...let's see. How are the Russian arms and troops going to make it to Nis? Through Albania+Kosova, Greece+Macedonia, Montenegro, Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Croatia, Slovenia? All are NATO members or waiting to be members. Not a plane can fly without permission or US will shoot it down, on behalf of NATO.

Nice try

Oh yeah sure, Belgrade to control Gracanica. Why not? There's only one way out of this impasse, Presheva for the North. That's it. Gracanica will NEVER, i repeat NEVER be under the jurisdiction of Belgrade. Seriously, wake up

I'm sure the 50,000 Odd strong fully professional Serbian armed forces would do the trick against some 1000 odd terrorists, How about a deal that benefits everyone, Pristina gives up its fruitless independence attempts and in return everyone there gets a better life
(New Zealander, 27 October 2011 11:25)

One thing you should know is that Kosovo will never be serbian. Neither north or south. As far as I know there is no serbian army in Kosovo. They left with tales behind their back long time ago. And they will never return I can assure you of that.

If you threat with your 50 000 strong army against an un-armed population of Kosovo and it's legitimate institutions then be sure Nato will bomb you again. Nato will secure Kosovo until Kosovo it self got it's 50 000 strong army so it can secure it self. Then you are more than welcome and we can sort things out in another way.

The ball is in your hands. No matter what Kosovo will stand independent and proud!!

You don't have the force to threat anyone Dacic. You just got an big mouth.

What's your opinion about Kosovo, really ? It seems you have twenty different opinions.

Are you ready to give up preshevo valley for north Kosovo ??
(Demiq, 27 October 2011 10:31)

I'm sure the 50,000 Odd strong fully professional Serbian armed forces would do the trick against some 1000 odd terrorists, How about a deal that benefits everyone, Pristina gives up its fruitless independence attempts and in return everyone there gets a better life

It seems Dacic is the only reasonable politician in Balkans.

Exchange of territory is the key.

Serbia can have her citizens in the north and the rest of k-Serbs in south will enjoy all minority rights (which will be much less of what they have now of course).

We take Presheva valley and the rest of Albanians will remain minority in Serbia. Fair is fair. Strike a deal and get over with lives.

The west needs to think long and hard about a lasting solution for Kosovo. Don't get your hopes up that Serbia will recognize Kosovo for EU membership. It won't happen. A federation sounds like a good deal compared to maintaining status quo. Were talking about a tiny part of Kosovo. Albanians will never rule there and the way it looks serbs will never rule the rest of Kosovo.

Well its easy for Dacic to say this now but why wasn't he more 'decisive' in demanding that SPS adopt this policy during the 1990's?

Or is it that this man doesn't believe in anything whatever apart from doing what he belives will gain him and his party more votes at the next election?

I'm sick and tired of listening to this idiot pretending to be clever now when he could have take this position 10 years ago, 5 years ago or even 3 years ago. And I'm even more sick that because of the incapability of Belgrade's politicians that he still manages to sound more 'reasonable' than the others.

The whole lot of them are pathetic.

I hope uck terrorists got the message.

The Serbian side should work in 2 scenarios. For Pristina to think it could ever control North Kosovo is as delusional as Serbia thinking it can control 1.5 million Albanians.

To me, North Kosovo is not a compromise for Serbia recognizing independence. I would only recognize Kosovo if the agreement was in addition to North Kosovo, Serbia would also get to govern Strpce & Gracanica. These places should not interest Albanians anyway as they do not live there.

If the West continues to be stubborn about the situation (remember the Albs have little say in this, the West speaks for them) and does not allow the enclaves south of the Ibar to be under Belgrade then I would move those Serbs out of those enclaves and into preferably Montenegro as this would have a big impact in the politics there.

If the West does not give us back the enclaves then shut down cooperation with the organ snatchers in Pristina for good, block Kosovo from using any of the rest of Serbia to import or export, do not allow Kosovo to have an international calling code or membership to the UN.

Look Albs, Serbs realize it does not control Kosovo. It is unfair especially because your cause would be crushed in 4 days if the West was not around to protect you. But to ever be a real country, you need Serbia's approval. Say all you want but all this convincing Serbia that Kosovo is independent would not be needed if in fact it really was. South Korea does not keep asking North Korea to "accept the reality" every single day because despite them not recognizing each other..they are both a given reality that you do not have to keep asking to accept.

So the 2 options would be as follows..

option one-let Belgrade freely control the North, enclaves and Monasteries in Kosovo in exchange for a international calling code, membership into international organizations and right to a olympic/FIFA team (not like you would ever make it to the actual tournaments anyway)

option two-partition at the Ibar, move Serbs out of enclaves preferably to Montenegro and never ever recognize Kosovo leaving you with no UN membership and basically remaining a black hole.

You need Serbia's cooperation there is no other way.

I am surprised from some of posters here, they consider that Serbia can crush our cause in 4 days, this mentality was among them for decades and they try to crush us in 4 days and it lasted them more than 100 years and they are still thinking 4 days is all they need.
Do not overestimate yourself because you will be surprised what can happen if Serbia try to do something, it I not that you will have no hope of gaining north Kosovo but for next lost war you will loss more.
We are not in 1912 Albania alone with enemies around and inside and no international support, now it is totally different picture in the world politics.

Be prepared for Sandzak, Presheva Valley, parts of Vojvodina to be independent too. What's good for the goose is good for the gander!

Prove it in action and not just in words in the media Mr. Dacic. Serbs are being threaten and shot by "occupiers" of kosovo and Belgrade just watching.

One thing you should know is that Kosovo will never be serbian. Neither north or south.
(Demi, 27 October 2011 13:15)
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Reality check for Demi. You obviously haven't been to the north of KiM. Serbian flags, Serbian currency, Serbian IDs, Serbian infrastructure and Serbian institutions. You have a problem Demi that is not going away. Keeping your head buried in the sand isn't going to help either. You can huff and puff as much as you like but that is the reality.

The only functioning border crossings are those between Albanians and other Albanians. But then again, you guys love shooting yourselves in the foot. LOL!

you're forgetting one major obstacle for the Russians. They will need NATO's permission to fly over NATO air space, which happens to surround Serbia.
(Maxi Me, 27 October 2011 15:50)
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Actually, Serbia is not surrounded by NATO as Montenegro is not a member and is currently being arm twisted to join like the Ukraine was, however, that won't last much longer. As for those Russia planes flying over NATO airspace, they already are, you know, for humanitarian purposes. ;) ;)

@adriatik - Don't worry Serbia already understand before that it cannot rule directly the Kosovo albanians anymore. That's why they are offering "maximum autonomy and short of independence" or a "Sub-State" for the kosovo albanians. But total independence?? Never! coz Kosovo is Serbia.

Never knew that Graqanica and Strpce are the size of West Belin, where all kinds of planes can take off and land!? I say lest built a wall around these two, and have Belgrade control them.

DimTuc, 27 October 2011 14:23)
The federation idea is a solution but I am wondering if you are willing to actually go that route. The difference in Kosovo as a province and an equal partner in a federation is huge. It would mean that Serbia would no longer be the masters. They would have to share the seat in the UN, they would have to have Kosovo approval for any international transaction. They would have no more control over Kosovo than Kosovo would have over Serbia??As a federation would put Kosovo and Serbia on an equal stance. Now do you agree or are you one of the nationalists you are criticizing.
Of course this was an idea circulated during the negotiations that Serbia firmly rejected.

“If we say that we will just peacefully watch what Albanians are doing than it is a disastrous message. (Kosovo Prime Minister Hashim) Thaci needs to know that an armed assault on Serbs will not go without response. I am not threatening anyone but I’m saying clearly that Serbia will defend its people in Kosovo,” he was quoted as saying. '

I'm glad to hear him say this, but this is not what Tadic is saying. In fact, Tadic is saying the opposite. Time for this government to fall and time for new elections.
Cheers!!

"Be prepared for Sandzak, Presheva Valley, parts of Vojvodina to be independent too. What's good for the goose is good for the gander!"

A

Hey A! How come you forgot Albania? I bet Northern Epirus in south Albania wan't to be returned to Greece. I guess its easy to carve up parts of Serbia but your are forgeting Albania and Bosnia. Dodik is watching.

Dodik is watching.
(MikeC, 27 October 2011 19:31) Sure very nervously even had a nervousa break down had to be checked in to hospital. So stop edging him on Serbian Serbs in the Greater Serbia Belgrade make believe fantasy before he loses it totally. Serbia just keep sending borrowed money to the big fantasy as Serbia gets poorer and more in debt. It's time ask IMF for a another loan it has been two months since last lone. To tie Serbia over until Christmas when Santa Clause brings presents to (good) boys and girls a always a catch 22.

Ummmm...let's see. How are the Russian arms and troops going to make it to Nis?
(Mini Me, 27 October 2011 11:17)
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Use your imagination. Why do you think there is an airport in Nis? The Russians are already flying their planes there. Also, don't be too confident about Montenegro. It is in a difficult position now but that will change soon enough. Russia is already making sure of that.
On another note, I just love seeing Albanians stand behind NATO thinking they are invincible. I suppose they did the same with the NAZIs and Ottomans. Just like in the past, they put all of their eggs in the one basket.

Zoran missed that one. He thought that was his 'gotcha moment'!
(metrod, 27 October 2011 16:40)
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LOL!
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/society-article.php?yyyy=2011&mm=08&dd=30&nav_id=76157
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/region-article.php?yyyy=2011&mm=10&dd=20&nav_id=76945

BTW, I can see our Albanian keyboard warriors like shooting their blanks again.

How ridiculous to keep bringing up 'Presevo' which is completely irrelevant.

Just because you've infiltrated our land doesn't mean you can start making claims to it.

Kosovo might be yours (by population) for present times but as soon as America fall & lose their power so will you and so will your unrealistic claims on Serbian land.

(Mini Me, 27 October 2011 11:17)

Now the US and NATO have been thrashed by a group of cave dwellers in Afghanistan with little more than Kalashnikov rifles and a few explosives and now the US is waiting to shoot down Russian aircraft.
Perhaps you might want to read yesterday’s article where China and other BRIC countries have been asked to BAIL OUT THE EU.

adriatik- Gracanica is Serbian, always was, always will be. What do you want with it anyway except to use as a public toilet.

kudos to dacic! looks like hes da man to watch.if traitor tadic ever comes back from his honey moon with der kommandant he better better watch dacic. still no photo of our mighty leader with mr shoigu HAHA!!Isure the ruskies can bring what they want in serbia if albos can take out dope organs and sex slaves!! more ruskies comming!george miletich

Its easy for nationalists on both sides to reject the idea of a federation. However, neither of them will see their own plan for Kosovo become a reality, at least not without bloodshead. Both sides have to respect the rights of other people. I think Dacics proposal is something that any sane person will find realistic and acheivable.

"Zoran,

you're forgetting one major obstacle for the Russians. They will need NATO's permission to fly over NATO air space, which happens to surround Serbia.
(Maxi Me"

Zoran missed that one. He thought that was his 'gotcha moment'!

Thaci needs to know that an armed assault on Serbs will not go without response. I am not threatening anyone but I’m saying clearly that Serbia will defend its people in Kosovo,” he was quoted as saying.

Hey tough guy the warmonging mentality will not take you anywhere.Following your logic we Albanians have every right to kill you serbs for what you did to us in 1999.Europe better pay attetntion that Milosevic is still alive and rules the politics in Serbia.Serbia doe not belong in EU.

All what he thinks Mr. Milosevic is a new war or not so ?... seems that he is not satisfied with past wars !

"A Russian base will be in Niš as of today"

Serbia would be the only country in the world with both a NATO base and a Russian base (assuming Kosovo is Serbia of course). I would really like to see that. You can also invite the Chinese to make a base seeing how they will dominate the world

Ummmm...let's see. How are the Russian arms and troops going to make it to Nis?
(Mini Me, 27 October 2011 11:17)
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Use your imagination. Why do you think there is an airport in Nis? The Russians are already flying their planes there. Also, don't be too confident about Montenegro. It is in a difficult position now but that will change soon enough. Russia is already making sure of that.
On another note, I just love seeing Albanians stand behind NATO thinking they are invincible. I suppose they did the same with the NAZIs and Ottomans. Just like in the past, they put all of their eggs in the one basket.
(Zoran, 27 October 2011 14:50)

Zoran,

you're forgetting one major obstacle for the Russians. They will need NATO's permission to fly over NATO air space, which happens to surround Serbia.

Kosovo is Serbia. Exchange of territory= that might solve the problem but, there is a lot more to lose than to gain.

Funny how a couple of dozen Serbs and Albanians responded to Dacic here to raise their usual nationalist slogans, yet not one noticed or commented on the most important thing he said:

“But the same day at lunch she (Merkel) said: ‘Why couldn’t Kosovo be a federation?’ That’s an interesting topic that nobody has mentioned so far,” Dačić stressed.

That is, of course, the solution. It is the compromise everyone talks about. I hope it is true that Merkel did say that, like Feith with the Catalan model. I kind of wonder why they keep giving these hints about what the end game obviously is, yet then go back to business, do nothing about it, and keep up the theatrics. Is it to tire nationalist energies on both sides so they both realise they kind of need to accept it and further theatrics are of no consequence?

For example, Is the exaggerated support to Thaci's unilateralism on the border aimed at softening him up by assuring him that will be the border - in order to later pop it to him that it will be a border of a different Kosovo, a federation between a Serb federal entity and an Albanian federal entity, ie, a much higher form of autonomy than the Ahtisaari Plan?

While at the same time the northern Serbs both get a feel that they can show their independence of Pristina through these actions, while also seeing the limitations.

Northern Serbs and Serbia should recognise that full partition at the Ibar simply deserts the K Serb majority scattered around the south. Should accept being part of some kind of independent Kosovo not because west or EU or US demands it but because it is in the interests of the serbs below the Ibar that you remain, as their natural centre. And that 2 million Albanians have every right to want nothing to do with being ruled in any way by you, but then this aspect seems to have been quietly accepted.

Albanians have to accept that in return for keeping your borders - which for Serbs north of the Ibar, with a compact Serb population and contiguous with Serbia, is not a given at all - the current Ahtisaari set-up, no matter how good it looks on paper, is rejected by the K Serb population as inadequate, in part due to your own shabby treatment of Serbs sicne 1999 and to the feeling that it was imposed.

If nationalists on both sides reply with the usual stuff, I will feel vindicated. Perhaps they reject such ideas because then they won't be able to insult each other on line here every night any more.

Well-done Dacic if you push for independent Kosovo/a as an equal federation of two peoples, both part of the neighbouring nations of Serbia and Albania but who are fated to share the same space.

Ivica Dačić Are you ready to take a risk? That's not what you feel like doing.
Something in your situation doesnt feel right.

Dodik is watching.
(MikeC, 27 October 2011 19:31)

Yeah, he is trying to find the right color for his straitjacket. This guy seriously lost his pills.

...‘A Russian base will be in Niš as of today’,” the interior minister stressed...

This 3-bit milosevic hack is really the frosting on that band of rogues that makes up the belgrade regime. go have yr damn russian base and show yr true (ugly) colors, rather than even pretending to be "democratic." Please!

ciao. roberto frisco

And thanks also for providing the details that Russia is not going to Kosovo with spacecrafts from Earth orbits to avoid asking NATO countries permission, but with normal helicopters which can go to Kosovo as long as they are allowed by NATO countries or Montenegro to use their airspace.
(icj1, 28 October 2011 04:37)
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No spacecrafts needed, as you can see, they are using helicopters and planes to get to their base in Serbia. As for the customs free zones, I would expect more Russian ships to dock at Montenegrin ports for the more heavier shipments.

(icj1, 28 October 2011 04:20)
Today, 28 October 2011 at 10am an aircraft landed in Beijing, China with an EU delegation to hold talks with the Chinese about a bailout by buying Euro Bonds. I believe similar delegations were sent to New Delhi, Brasilia and Moscow.
You work it out for yourself.

(Lenard, 27 October 2011 21:26)
I am convinced that not only are you delusional, but you must live a very sheltered life. The IMF is not capable of helping out the EU in this crisis, and you can be assured that the EU needs a lot more help, so how is it going to help out Serbia?????
Hello!!!!!! the BRIC countries are coming to the rescue of the EU and not the IMF.
I would not be too worried about Serbia as on Wednesday your HTV Dnevnik was asking people on the streets in Zagreb what they thought about Croatia’s living standards. One man summed it up “at least 80% are living on or below the poverty line and the prospects look even worse for the future”. He also said that he was living on $90 per month pension after 42 years of work. So the increase in tourism does not help, eh?
You see the EU is no longer contributing money to the Croatian budget and things are going to go from bad to worse. By the way Milorad Dodik met with the Russian delegation in New York and he was assured of continued support from Russia. For your information the R in BRICs stands for Russia.

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(Zoran, 27 October 2011 18:54)

Thanks for providing the details that Russia is discussing a customs union and not a joint airspace with Montenegro.

And thanks also for providing the details that Russia is not going to Kosovo with spacecrafts from Earth orbits to avoid asking NATO countries permission, but with normal helicopters which can go to Kosovo as long as they are allowed by NATO countries or Montenegro to use their airspace.

I am not threatening anyone but I’m saying clearly that Serbia will defend its people in Kosovo,” he was quoted as saying.
DUDE... why talking?? just SIMPLE no hard feeling's no bla...bla try and get in the war with albanians since you are mention!!??remember albanians are very well know for well remembering and not easy forgiving a specially for those who kill they family members..SO GOOD LUCK TO ALL OF YOU

Now the US and NATO have been thrashed by a group of cave dwellers in Afghanistan with little more than Kalashnikov rifles and a few explosives and now the US is waiting to shoot down Russian aircraft.
(sj, 27 October 2011 13:22)

You mean cave dwellers like that one who is resting in peace with the fish at the bottom of the ocean ?
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Perhaps you might want to read yesterday’s article where China and other BRIC countries have been asked to BAIL OUT THE EU.
(sj, 27 October 2011 13:22)

Nice, as I have said before we need to tell those ignorants of immigrants who risk even their lives to get in the EU, that they should go to Brazil, China, Russia or India.

sj, me and you have been telling this to those millions of people so many times, but they refuse and refuse to listen to us and insist on immigrating to the misery of US/EU. Not sure what their concern is about the Brazilian, Chinese, Russian or Indian paradises...

a New day:

"The federation idea is a solution but I am wondering if you are willing to actually go that route."

Who me? No, I don't have to take part in any federation between your two peoples.

"The difference in Kosovo as a province and an equal partner in a federation is huge. It would mean that Serbia would no longer be the masters. They would have to share the seat in the UN, they would have to have Kosovo approval for any international transaction. They would have no more control over Kosovo than Kosovo would have over Serbia??As a federation would put Kosovo and Serbia on an equal stance. Now do you agree or are you one of the nationalists you are criticizing."

You appear to have missed the point entirely. Sure I have no problem with the idea you just raised, I just think it is a silly idea, to have a federation only of Kosovo and Serbia in allthe Balkans - better have a Balkan federation of all.

However, what Dacic alleges Merkel said, and that I wrote is the best solution, is turning independent Kosovo itself into a federation, ie, a federation between a larger Albanian federal unit and a smaller Serb federal unit, as something radically "higher" than the Ahtisaari Plan in terms of Serb autonomy, but less than formal partiton at the Ibar.

The Serbian side should work in 2 scenarios. For Pristina to think it could ever control North Kosovo is as delusional as Serbia thinking it can control 1.5 million Albanians.
(Ari Gold, 27 October 2011 10:36)

You are correct, if we assume that North Kosovo wants to be independent from Pristina. However, the majority of North Kosovo inhabitants has not declared independence from Pristina yet.

On the other hand, the majority of Kosovo declared indipendence from Serbia, so we don't need to assume anything about that. We know for a fact that the majority of Kosovo does not want to be controlled by Belgrade.

you're forgetting one major obstacle for the Russians. They will need NATO's permission to fly over NATO air space, which happens to surround Serbia.
(Maxi Me, 27 October 2011 15:50)

That's not an insurmountable obstable. Russia, as a very rich superpower with a lot of technological advances, can send soldiers in the Earth's orbit and then drop them from the orbit to the Nis' airport. That way they don't need NATO's permission to fly in NATO's airspace.

Today, 28 October 2011 at 10am an aircraft landed in Beijing, China with an EU delegation to hold talks with the Chinese about a bailout by buying Euro Bonds. I believe similar delegations were sent to New Delhi, Brasilia and Moscow.
You work it out for yourself.
(sj, 28 October 2011 11:14)

I have worked it already; I'm travelling to the EU and US borders to post warning signs alerting millions of immigrants to change direction and go to China, Russia, Brazil and India and follow the example of EU officials.

I invite you to work it out for yourself, as well, and join me in this effort of opening the eyes to millions of immigrants and direct them to a better life rather than the EU and US misery.

No spacecrafts needed, as you can see, they are using helicopters and planes to get to their base in Serbia. As for the customs free zones, I would expect more Russian ships to dock at Montenegrin ports for the more heavier shipments.
(Zoran, 28 October 2011 11:08)

And that was precisely my point that no spacecrafts are needed as lonh as NATO or Montenegro allows these normal (non-Earth-orbiting) helicopters to enter their airspace. But, I'm glad that you finally understood that this is not reliable and started to look for alternative routes via the sea, of course, as long as NATO allows those ships to cross the Otranto Strait which is controlled by NATO countries.

How ridiculous to keep bringing up 'Presevo' which is completely irrelevant.

Just because you've infiltrated our land doesn't mean you can start making claims to it.

Kosovo might be yours (by population) for present times but as soon as America fall & lose their power so will you and so will your unrealistic claims on Serbian land.

@adriatik - Don't worry Serbia already understand before that it cannot rule directly the Kosovo albanians anymore. That's why they are offering "maximum autonomy and short of independence" or a "Sub-State" for the kosovo albanians. But total independence?? Never! coz Kosovo is Serbia.

Kosovo is Serbia. Exchange of territory= that might solve the problem but, there is a lot more to lose than to gain.

Prove it in action and not just in words in the media Mr. Dacic. Serbs are being threaten and shot by "occupiers" of kosovo and Belgrade just watching.

You don't have the force to threat anyone Dacic. You just got an big mouth.

What's your opinion about Kosovo, really ? It seems you have twenty different opinions.

Are you ready to give up preshevo valley for north Kosovo ??
(Demiq, 27 October 2011 10:31)

I'm sure the 50,000 Odd strong fully professional Serbian armed forces would do the trick against some 1000 odd terrorists, How about a deal that benefits everyone, Pristina gives up its fruitless independence attempts and in return everyone there gets a better life

The Serbian side should work in 2 scenarios. For Pristina to think it could ever control North Kosovo is as delusional as Serbia thinking it can control 1.5 million Albanians.

To me, North Kosovo is not a compromise for Serbia recognizing independence. I would only recognize Kosovo if the agreement was in addition to North Kosovo, Serbia would also get to govern Strpce & Gracanica. These places should not interest Albanians anyway as they do not live there.

If the West continues to be stubborn about the situation (remember the Albs have little say in this, the West speaks for them) and does not allow the enclaves south of the Ibar to be under Belgrade then I would move those Serbs out of those enclaves and into preferably Montenegro as this would have a big impact in the politics there.

If the West does not give us back the enclaves then shut down cooperation with the organ snatchers in Pristina for good, block Kosovo from using any of the rest of Serbia to import or export, do not allow Kosovo to have an international calling code or membership to the UN.

Look Albs, Serbs realize it does not control Kosovo. It is unfair especially because your cause would be crushed in 4 days if the West was not around to protect you. But to ever be a real country, you need Serbia's approval. Say all you want but all this convincing Serbia that Kosovo is independent would not be needed if in fact it really was. South Korea does not keep asking North Korea to "accept the reality" every single day because despite them not recognizing each other..they are both a given reality that you do not have to keep asking to accept.

So the 2 options would be as follows..

option one-let Belgrade freely control the North, enclaves and Monasteries in Kosovo in exchange for a international calling code, membership into international organizations and right to a olympic/FIFA team (not like you would ever make it to the actual tournaments anyway)

option two-partition at the Ibar, move Serbs out of enclaves preferably to Montenegro and never ever recognize Kosovo leaving you with no UN membership and basically remaining a black hole.

You need Serbia's cooperation there is no other way.

He added that everything needed to be discussed, even the exchange of territory.

Now we are talking some sense. Eastern Kosova(Presheva,Bujanos&Medvedja) for northern Mitro. Any takers?

Oh yeah sure, Belgrade to control Gracanica. Why not? There's only one way out of this impasse, Presheva for the North. That's it. Gracanica will NEVER, i repeat NEVER be under the jurisdiction of Belgrade. Seriously, wake up

I'm sure the 50,000 Odd strong fully professional Serbian armed forces would do the trick against some 1000 odd terrorists, How about a deal that benefits everyone, Pristina gives up its fruitless independence attempts and in return everyone there gets a better life
(New Zealander, 27 October 2011 11:25)

One thing you should know is that Kosovo will never be serbian. Neither north or south. As far as I know there is no serbian army in Kosovo. They left with tales behind their back long time ago. And they will never return I can assure you of that.

If you threat with your 50 000 strong army against an un-armed population of Kosovo and it's legitimate institutions then be sure Nato will bomb you again. Nato will secure Kosovo until Kosovo it self got it's 50 000 strong army so it can secure it self. Then you are more than welcome and we can sort things out in another way.

The ball is in your hands. No matter what Kosovo will stand independent and proud!!

Never knew that Graqanica and Strpce are the size of West Belin, where all kinds of planes can take off and land!? I say lest built a wall around these two, and have Belgrade control them.

Ummmm...let's see. How are the Russian arms and troops going to make it to Nis?
(Mini Me, 27 October 2011 11:17)
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Use your imagination. Why do you think there is an airport in Nis? The Russians are already flying their planes there. Also, don't be too confident about Montenegro. It is in a difficult position now but that will change soon enough. Russia is already making sure of that.
On another note, I just love seeing Albanians stand behind NATO thinking they are invincible. I suppose they did the same with the NAZIs and Ottomans. Just like in the past, they put all of their eggs in the one basket.

You don't have the force to threat anyone Dacic. You just got an big mouth.

What's your opinion about Kosovo, really ? It seems you have twenty different opinions.

Are you ready to give up preshevo valley for north Kosovo ??

"How about a deal that benefits everyone, Pristina gives up its fruitless independence attempts and in return everyone there gets a better life"

Go ahead and try and convince 1.8 million people that they should join with Serbia again. Be my guest.

adriatik- Gracanica is Serbian, always was, always will be. What do you want with it anyway except to use as a public toilet.

(Mini Me, 27 October 2011 11:17)

Now the US and NATO have been thrashed by a group of cave dwellers in Afghanistan with little more than Kalashnikov rifles and a few explosives and now the US is waiting to shoot down Russian aircraft.
Perhaps you might want to read yesterday’s article where China and other BRIC countries have been asked to BAIL OUT THE EU.

One thing you should know is that Kosovo will never be serbian. Neither north or south.
(Demi, 27 October 2011 13:15)
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Reality check for Demi. You obviously haven't been to the north of KiM. Serbian flags, Serbian currency, Serbian IDs, Serbian infrastructure and Serbian institutions. You have a problem Demi that is not going away. Keeping your head buried in the sand isn't going to help either. You can huff and puff as much as you like but that is the reality.

The only functioning border crossings are those between Albanians and other Albanians. But then again, you guys love shooting yourselves in the foot. LOL!

‘A Russian base will be in Niš as of today’,”

Ummmm...let's see. How are the Russian arms and troops going to make it to Nis? Through Albania+Kosova, Greece+Macedonia, Montenegro, Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Croatia, Slovenia? All are NATO members or waiting to be members. Not a plane can fly without permission or US will shoot it down, on behalf of NATO.

Nice try

It seems Dacic is the only reasonable politician in Balkans.

Exchange of territory is the key.

Serbia can have her citizens in the north and the rest of k-Serbs in south will enjoy all minority rights (which will be much less of what they have now of course).

We take Presheva valley and the rest of Albanians will remain minority in Serbia. Fair is fair. Strike a deal and get over with lives.

Funny how a couple of dozen Serbs and Albanians responded to Dacic here to raise their usual nationalist slogans, yet not one noticed or commented on the most important thing he said:

“But the same day at lunch she (Merkel) said: ‘Why couldn’t Kosovo be a federation?’ That’s an interesting topic that nobody has mentioned so far,” Dačić stressed.

That is, of course, the solution. It is the compromise everyone talks about. I hope it is true that Merkel did say that, like Feith with the Catalan model. I kind of wonder why they keep giving these hints about what the end game obviously is, yet then go back to business, do nothing about it, and keep up the theatrics. Is it to tire nationalist energies on both sides so they both realise they kind of need to accept it and further theatrics are of no consequence?

For example, Is the exaggerated support to Thaci's unilateralism on the border aimed at softening him up by assuring him that will be the border - in order to later pop it to him that it will be a border of a different Kosovo, a federation between a Serb federal entity and an Albanian federal entity, ie, a much higher form of autonomy than the Ahtisaari Plan?

While at the same time the northern Serbs both get a feel that they can show their independence of Pristina through these actions, while also seeing the limitations.

Northern Serbs and Serbia should recognise that full partition at the Ibar simply deserts the K Serb majority scattered around the south. Should accept being part of some kind of independent Kosovo not because west or EU or US demands it but because it is in the interests of the serbs below the Ibar that you remain, as their natural centre. And that 2 million Albanians have every right to want nothing to do with being ruled in any way by you, but then this aspect seems to have been quietly accepted.

Albanians have to accept that in return for keeping your borders - which for Serbs north of the Ibar, with a compact Serb population and contiguous with Serbia, is not a given at all - the current Ahtisaari set-up, no matter how good it looks on paper, is rejected by the K Serb population as inadequate, in part due to your own shabby treatment of Serbs sicne 1999 and to the feeling that it was imposed.

If nationalists on both sides reply with the usual stuff, I will feel vindicated. Perhaps they reject such ideas because then they won't be able to insult each other on line here every night any more.

Well-done Dacic if you push for independent Kosovo/a as an equal federation of two peoples, both part of the neighbouring nations of Serbia and Albania but who are fated to share the same space.

I am surprised from some of posters here, they consider that Serbia can crush our cause in 4 days, this mentality was among them for decades and they try to crush us in 4 days and it lasted them more than 100 years and they are still thinking 4 days is all they need.
Do not overestimate yourself because you will be surprised what can happen if Serbia try to do something, it I not that you will have no hope of gaining north Kosovo but for next lost war you will loss more.
We are not in 1912 Albania alone with enemies around and inside and no international support, now it is totally different picture in the world politics.

Be prepared for Sandzak, Presheva Valley, parts of Vojvodina to be independent too. What's good for the goose is good for the gander!

"Be prepared for Sandzak, Presheva Valley, parts of Vojvodina to be independent too. What's good for the goose is good for the gander!"

A

Hey A! How come you forgot Albania? I bet Northern Epirus in south Albania wan't to be returned to Greece. I guess its easy to carve up parts of Serbia but your are forgeting Albania and Bosnia. Dodik is watching.

I hope uck terrorists got the message.

A Russian base in Nis would ensure the Americans stay in Kosovo for a very very long time

Ummmm...let's see. How are the Russian arms and troops going to make it to Nis?
(Mini Me, 27 October 2011 11:17)
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Use your imagination. Why do you think there is an airport in Nis? The Russians are already flying their planes there. Also, don't be too confident about Montenegro. It is in a difficult position now but that will change soon enough. Russia is already making sure of that.
On another note, I just love seeing Albanians stand behind NATO thinking they are invincible. I suppose they did the same with the NAZIs and Ottomans. Just like in the past, they put all of their eggs in the one basket.
(Zoran, 27 October 2011 14:50)

Zoran,

you're forgetting one major obstacle for the Russians. They will need NATO's permission to fly over NATO air space, which happens to surround Serbia.

“If we say that we will just peacefully watch what Albanians are doing than it is a disastrous message. (Kosovo Prime Minister Hashim) Thaci needs to know that an armed assault on Serbs will not go without response. I am not threatening anyone but I’m saying clearly that Serbia will defend its people in Kosovo,” he was quoted as saying. '

I'm glad to hear him say this, but this is not what Tadic is saying. In fact, Tadic is saying the opposite. Time for this government to fall and time for new elections.
Cheers!!

"Zoran,

you're forgetting one major obstacle for the Russians. They will need NATO's permission to fly over NATO air space, which happens to surround Serbia.
(Maxi Me"

Zoran missed that one. He thought that was his 'gotcha moment'!

Serbia has anew Slobodan wannabe. Imagine independence for 3 villages ?! How absurd

you're forgetting one major obstacle for the Russians. They will need NATO's permission to fly over NATO air space, which happens to surround Serbia.
(Maxi Me, 27 October 2011 15:50)
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Actually, Serbia is not surrounded by NATO as Montenegro is not a member and is currently being arm twisted to join like the Ukraine was, however, that won't last much longer. As for those Russia planes flying over NATO airspace, they already are, you know, for humanitarian purposes. ;) ;)

Dodik is watching.
(MikeC, 27 October 2011 19:31) Sure very nervously even had a nervousa break down had to be checked in to hospital. So stop edging him on Serbian Serbs in the Greater Serbia Belgrade make believe fantasy before he loses it totally. Serbia just keep sending borrowed money to the big fantasy as Serbia gets poorer and more in debt. It's time ask IMF for a another loan it has been two months since last lone. To tie Serbia over until Christmas when Santa Clause brings presents to (good) boys and girls a always a catch 22.

Zoran missed that one. He thought that was his 'gotcha moment'!
(metrod, 27 October 2011 16:40)
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LOL!
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/society-article.php?yyyy=2011&mm=08&dd=30&nav_id=76157
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/region-article.php?yyyy=2011&mm=10&dd=20&nav_id=76945

BTW, I can see our Albanian keyboard warriors like shooting their blanks again.

...‘A Russian base will be in Niš as of today’,” the interior minister stressed...

This 3-bit milosevic hack is really the frosting on that band of rogues that makes up the belgrade regime. go have yr damn russian base and show yr true (ugly) colors, rather than even pretending to be "democratic." Please!

ciao. roberto frisco

Well its easy for Dacic to say this now but why wasn't he more 'decisive' in demanding that SPS adopt this policy during the 1990's?

Or is it that this man doesn't believe in anything whatever apart from doing what he belives will gain him and his party more votes at the next election?

I'm sick and tired of listening to this idiot pretending to be clever now when he could have take this position 10 years ago, 5 years ago or even 3 years ago. And I'm even more sick that because of the incapability of Belgrade's politicians that he still manages to sound more 'reasonable' than the others.

The whole lot of them are pathetic.

Thaci needs to know that an armed assault on Serbs will not go without response. I am not threatening anyone but I’m saying clearly that Serbia will defend its people in Kosovo,” he was quoted as saying.

Hey tough guy the warmonging mentality will not take you anywhere.Following your logic we Albanians have every right to kill you serbs for what you did to us in 1999.Europe better pay attetntion that Milosevic is still alive and rules the politics in Serbia.Serbia doe not belong in EU.

The west needs to think long and hard about a lasting solution for Kosovo. Don't get your hopes up that Serbia will recognize Kosovo for EU membership. It won't happen. A federation sounds like a good deal compared to maintaining status quo. Were talking about a tiny part of Kosovo. Albanians will never rule there and the way it looks serbs will never rule the rest of Kosovo.

Its easy for nationalists on both sides to reject the idea of a federation. However, neither of them will see their own plan for Kosovo become a reality, at least not without bloodshead. Both sides have to respect the rights of other people. I think Dacics proposal is something that any sane person will find realistic and acheivable.

All what he thinks Mr. Milosevic is a new war or not so ?... seems that he is not satisfied with past wars !

kudos to dacic! looks like hes da man to watch.if traitor tadic ever comes back from his honey moon with der kommandant he better better watch dacic. still no photo of our mighty leader with mr shoigu HAHA!!Isure the ruskies can bring what they want in serbia if albos can take out dope organs and sex slaves!! more ruskies comming!george miletich

Dodik is watching.
(MikeC, 27 October 2011 19:31)

Yeah, he is trying to find the right color for his straitjacket. This guy seriously lost his pills.

Ivica Dačić Are you ready to take a risk? That's not what you feel like doing.
Something in your situation doesnt feel right.

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(Zoran, 27 October 2011 18:54)

Thanks for providing the details that Russia is discussing a customs union and not a joint airspace with Montenegro.

And thanks also for providing the details that Russia is not going to Kosovo with spacecrafts from Earth orbits to avoid asking NATO countries permission, but with normal helicopters which can go to Kosovo as long as they are allowed by NATO countries or Montenegro to use their airspace.

DimTuc, 27 October 2011 14:23)
The federation idea is a solution but I am wondering if you are willing to actually go that route. The difference in Kosovo as a province and an equal partner in a federation is huge. It would mean that Serbia would no longer be the masters. They would have to share the seat in the UN, they would have to have Kosovo approval for any international transaction. They would have no more control over Kosovo than Kosovo would have over Serbia??As a federation would put Kosovo and Serbia on an equal stance. Now do you agree or are you one of the nationalists you are criticizing.
Of course this was an idea circulated during the negotiations that Serbia firmly rejected.

(Lenard, 27 October 2011 21:26)
I am convinced that not only are you delusional, but you must live a very sheltered life. The IMF is not capable of helping out the EU in this crisis, and you can be assured that the EU needs a lot more help, so how is it going to help out Serbia?????
Hello!!!!!! the BRIC countries are coming to the rescue of the EU and not the IMF.
I would not be too worried about Serbia as on Wednesday your HTV Dnevnik was asking people on the streets in Zagreb what they thought about Croatia’s living standards. One man summed it up “at least 80% are living on or below the poverty line and the prospects look even worse for the future”. He also said that he was living on $90 per month pension after 42 years of work. So the increase in tourism does not help, eh?
You see the EU is no longer contributing money to the Croatian budget and things are going to go from bad to worse. By the way Milorad Dodik met with the Russian delegation in New York and he was assured of continued support from Russia. For your information the R in BRICs stands for Russia.

a New day:

"The federation idea is a solution but I am wondering if you are willing to actually go that route."

Who me? No, I don't have to take part in any federation between your two peoples.

"The difference in Kosovo as a province and an equal partner in a federation is huge. It would mean that Serbia would no longer be the masters. They would have to share the seat in the UN, they would have to have Kosovo approval for any international transaction. They would have no more control over Kosovo than Kosovo would have over Serbia??As a federation would put Kosovo and Serbia on an equal stance. Now do you agree or are you one of the nationalists you are criticizing."

You appear to have missed the point entirely. Sure I have no problem with the idea you just raised, I just think it is a silly idea, to have a federation only of Kosovo and Serbia in allthe Balkans - better have a Balkan federation of all.

However, what Dacic alleges Merkel said, and that I wrote is the best solution, is turning independent Kosovo itself into a federation, ie, a federation between a larger Albanian federal unit and a smaller Serb federal unit, as something radically "higher" than the Ahtisaari Plan in terms of Serb autonomy, but less than formal partiton at the Ibar.

"A Russian base will be in Niš as of today"

Serbia would be the only country in the world with both a NATO base and a Russian base (assuming Kosovo is Serbia of course). I would really like to see that. You can also invite the Chinese to make a base seeing how they will dominate the world

The Serbian side should work in 2 scenarios. For Pristina to think it could ever control North Kosovo is as delusional as Serbia thinking it can control 1.5 million Albanians.
(Ari Gold, 27 October 2011 10:36)

You are correct, if we assume that North Kosovo wants to be independent from Pristina. However, the majority of North Kosovo inhabitants has not declared independence from Pristina yet.

On the other hand, the majority of Kosovo declared indipendence from Serbia, so we don't need to assume anything about that. We know for a fact that the majority of Kosovo does not want to be controlled by Belgrade.

Now the US and NATO have been thrashed by a group of cave dwellers in Afghanistan with little more than Kalashnikov rifles and a few explosives and now the US is waiting to shoot down Russian aircraft.
(sj, 27 October 2011 13:22)

You mean cave dwellers like that one who is resting in peace with the fish at the bottom of the ocean ?
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Perhaps you might want to read yesterday’s article where China and other BRIC countries have been asked to BAIL OUT THE EU.
(sj, 27 October 2011 13:22)

Nice, as I have said before we need to tell those ignorants of immigrants who risk even their lives to get in the EU, that they should go to Brazil, China, Russia or India.

sj, me and you have been telling this to those millions of people so many times, but they refuse and refuse to listen to us and insist on immigrating to the misery of US/EU. Not sure what their concern is about the Brazilian, Chinese, Russian or Indian paradises...

you're forgetting one major obstacle for the Russians. They will need NATO's permission to fly over NATO air space, which happens to surround Serbia.
(Maxi Me, 27 October 2011 15:50)

That's not an insurmountable obstable. Russia, as a very rich superpower with a lot of technological advances, can send soldiers in the Earth's orbit and then drop them from the orbit to the Nis' airport. That way they don't need NATO's permission to fly in NATO's airspace.

(icj1, 28 October 2011 04:20)
Today, 28 October 2011 at 10am an aircraft landed in Beijing, China with an EU delegation to hold talks with the Chinese about a bailout by buying Euro Bonds. I believe similar delegations were sent to New Delhi, Brasilia and Moscow.
You work it out for yourself.

Today, 28 October 2011 at 10am an aircraft landed in Beijing, China with an EU delegation to hold talks with the Chinese about a bailout by buying Euro Bonds. I believe similar delegations were sent to New Delhi, Brasilia and Moscow.
You work it out for yourself.
(sj, 28 October 2011 11:14)

I have worked it already; I'm travelling to the EU and US borders to post warning signs alerting millions of immigrants to change direction and go to China, Russia, Brazil and India and follow the example of EU officials.

I invite you to work it out for yourself, as well, and join me in this effort of opening the eyes to millions of immigrants and direct them to a better life rather than the EU and US misery.

No spacecrafts needed, as you can see, they are using helicopters and planes to get to their base in Serbia. As for the customs free zones, I would expect more Russian ships to dock at Montenegrin ports for the more heavier shipments.
(Zoran, 28 October 2011 11:08)

And that was precisely my point that no spacecrafts are needed as lonh as NATO or Montenegro allows these normal (non-Earth-orbiting) helicopters to enter their airspace. But, I'm glad that you finally understood that this is not reliable and started to look for alternative routes via the sea, of course, as long as NATO allows those ships to cross the Otranto Strait which is controlled by NATO countries.

I am not threatening anyone but I’m saying clearly that Serbia will defend its people in Kosovo,” he was quoted as saying.
DUDE... why talking?? just SIMPLE no hard feeling's no bla...bla try and get in the war with albanians since you are mention!!??remember albanians are very well know for well remembering and not easy forgiving a specially for those who kill they family members..SO GOOD LUCK TO ALL OF YOU

And thanks also for providing the details that Russia is not going to Kosovo with spacecrafts from Earth orbits to avoid asking NATO countries permission, but with normal helicopters which can go to Kosovo as long as they are allowed by NATO countries or Montenegro to use their airspace.
(icj1, 28 October 2011 04:37)
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No spacecrafts needed, as you can see, they are using helicopters and planes to get to their base in Serbia. As for the customs free zones, I would expect more Russian ships to dock at Montenegrin ports for the more heavier shipments.