KFOR can go through, EULEX with guarantees

I honestly do not see what the problem is in N. KiM. The KFOR and EULEX are supposed to be status-neutral, and not act as worker bees for Pristina. If agreements were respected, there would be no problems, and matters between the Serbs and Albanians would be solved through negotiations. But I have a feeling that Brussels is trying some heavy-handed tactics here.

Don't provoke the Serbian people Mr. Drews and act in accordance of UN resolution 1244. KFOR/EULEX should be status neutral and NOT serving Thaci "The Snake" and his gangsters in Pristina.

Very soon KFOR won't ask Serbs at all.

International community will get tired with these pampered people,and after running out of options,they may allow an Oluja 2.
Sad but true.
(Mirel from Albania, 25 October 2011 15:52)

A perfect example why Albania should not be allowed anywhere near the EU. Try Turkey for your next holiday. You share the same values.

I love it. A small defenceless community have effectively neutered the most powerful military machine in the world. And through peaceful means. The message is, you can't push us around. The camera's are watching. NATO doesn't know what to do. I have great admiration for these people. They've got guts. I hope some of them see this message. As for mirel from albania. Stew in your own bile chum. You're a sad individual. The best oluja we could all hope for, is the one that sweeps your methane away from our nostrils.

Kfor diden't accept your request.

The days of the serb criminals wich block roads in the north are numbered. They will very soon have to leave the roads while some of them will have to go to jail.

Those people at the barricades are payed by criminals in northern Kosovo to keep the roads barricaded. This for own profit.


North Kosovo is part of Kosovo and will stay part of Kosovo!! Mark my words people!!

10 russian military personnel spotted in N. Mitrovica, as reported via official propaganda website, Balkan Insight:

http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/russian-s-visiting-the-barricades-in-the-north

On another note, China to invest 2bn in EPS and build Nikola Tesla 3 power station. Hmm, why didn't the jermans get that one? Again via BI

http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/china-to-invest-2-billion-euro-in-serbia-s-energy-sector

Finally, Lidl want to get in to Serbia in a big way (same source):

http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/german-s-lidl-eyes-locations-in-serbia

So Frau Merkel, is your blackmail of Serbia going to p*ss off jerman business who are desperate to get in to serbia? There is competition.

So Frau Merkel, is your blackmail of Serbia going to p*ss off jerman business who are desperate to get in to serbia? There is competition.
(Aleks, 25 October 2011 14:58)

Very funny mate lol

Judging by the German Economy figures and in particular the size of German Exports ( more than 1000 BN euros), I don't think that German businesses do even give a sh... about serbian market.

It's more obvious that serbian tiny bankrupted economy is in fact desperate to have German widely well-known companies invest a couple of euros down there...

Take it easy lol

I honestly do not see what the problem is in N. KiM.
(winston, 25 October 2011 13:36)

There's no problem in northern Kosovo. The legitimate and democratically elected representatives of the Serbian community have created a common platform that reflects the collective wishes of the people there that they do not want any illegal parallel institutions from the so-called Republic of Kosova established there. The extremists in Pristina are only provoking conflict with their harsh words and the comments from regular Albanian posters here only affirm what is obvious to everyone: Albanians are incapable of working with other people unless they are in a clearly subordinate position. Pristina has failed miserably and all they can do now is shout empty threats :)

I don't think anyone is interested in allowing the organised crime go on.

Politicians in Pristina as well as in Belgrade, and as a matter of fact pretty much all Balkan countries, are under huge pressure from their communities and European institutions to curb the organised crime, and free the markets from the monopolies.

The customs are there to stop illegal activities which will benefit both Serbia and Kosovo.

Wow ballkanbert you're such an Ballkan "expert", NOT. Shocking you "know" everything when it comes to UÇK, Kosovo and Mr Thaçi. Oh dear why am I not surprised with brainwashed people from Serbian propaganda.
I cannot belive that KFOR is letting 3-4 illegal mayers put conditions on the free movement for the citizen in the North of Kosovo.

Today there are 3 different world on the Serbian land of Kosovo and Metohija are Serbs, Albo and Western Civilization with Ghetto.
Let us start with the names of Kosovo or whu give the name Kosovo? The explanation for those who don't know answer is very simple.
When the Intelligent Slav Serb people came 1-st time in to the region they see around to many blackbird ( Serb Kos) also Serb created more place with blackbird name such is: city Kosovska Mitrovica, Kosovo Polje( blackbird field ).
Hungry Albo with other use Serb name "Kosovo" and wanted artifical # 3 Albo (Albania and Azerbeijan is member of the UN. Arrogant Western civilization is not perfect they don't count for blackbird has made a mistake with barbed wire and no sign above wire for blackbird:"IF BLACKBIRD FLY OVER WILL BE PUNISH BY LAW"
God bird say: I liked serbs they use my name for their land - this name(kos) must stay for ever - no Ghetto for me.

@ winston!
You are right also you forgot to mention that according 1244,Kosovo is ONE cumstom zone and supposed to be magaged by Prishtina institutions.

Serbs in North are playing with fire.They have the special status under Kosovo institutiuons which means that they can manage all the .International community will get tired with these pampered people,and after running out of options,they may allow an Oluja 2.
Sad but true.

@(Mendo, 25 October 2011 17:11)

Mendo - Yes, it was shocking what I learned about UCK and Thaci, in particular when I was working in Kosovo in a long-term mission.
No, I was not exposed to a large extend of propaganda from Serbian side. The most interesting things I learned from Kosovo Albanians. One of them and friend of mine, who did not want to collaborate with UCK, disappeared withou leaving any trace from Prizren. Another one, Kosovo Albanian senior politician, as well refusing to collaborate with the ruthless war heroes AFTER THE WAR, had already more than 10 body guards when I saw him last time - not to protect him from Serbs, but from "The Snake´s" so called "judges"!
Yes, I believe you would like to faciliate "movement" for the people in the North - just not free movement as you claim, but forced movement like the mob orchestrated by the UCK "established" after UNMIK´s arrival arrival and under the watchful eyes of the so-called international community with the well-known peak of what you apparently understand as "movement" in 2004.
Thank you for revealing your mind set so openly!

"The customs are there to stop illegal activities which will benefit both Serbia and Kosovo."
(n n zeka, 25 October 2011 14:34)

No, Kosovo custom officers are there to get the bribes for their own pockets (probably with a percentage going directly to Thaci's clan) instead to local Serb smugglers. Look at the border between Albanian and Kosovo - there you have illegal activities on bigger scales. And they don't only 'smuggle' food, fuel and cigarettes there, but drugs, weapons and some more things, too.

@(winston, 25 October 2011 13:36)
Well, Winston, I believe everybody a bit familiar with the issue is supposed to know what the main problem is. The problem has a name and an address. The name is Thaci as the strongman of the regime occupying the institutions in Pristina and his residence is there. He stirred once again up trouble! As long as he and the other warlords are considered by the self-appointed international community - the usual suspects in NATO and EU - as partner in problem resolution, the process will go down the drain. The warlords cannot be part of the problem resolution, they embody the problem.
I do not believe in conspiracy theories. The warlords are increasingly bothering for the NATO and the EU. However, there are still some reasons that they do not want to drop these hot potatoes: Firstly, they do not want to enter into a debate, why they initially supported the warlords and bombed them into power. Secondly, they fear that the warlords might unleash their reckless UCK-gunmen (in Kosovo and beyond)- which would mean they would have to fight them - however, the general public of the NATO and EU countries would not accept casualities among their troops down there (This was the case 1999 as well and main reason that "the coaltion of the willing" in NATO used the UCK as ground troops of sort).

So EU and NATO are actually waiting that people in Kosovo finally break away from the notorious trouble makers and, most probably, big fishes of organised crime.

On the other hand, they fear after that it could get even worse: with the far-right movement climbing onto the driver seats of the institutions in troubled Kosovo.

To sum it up: NATO and EU - UNMIK initially with an UCK admirer and THaci friend as Head of Mission anyway - have created a complete mess and do not how how to find a way out. Anyway: there are "political problems" like KFOR-speaker Frank Martin termed it yesterday accurately - problems they cannot leave to KFOR to have them resolved.
What still is of importance: Only a return to the status before the current conflict was sparked - to the status ante - can be the basis for continuation of a process aimed on sustainable peace and stability in Kosovo - and the entire region. Apparently, people on the barricades are the only factor able to push this through. Therefore I am with them with my thoughts and from the depth of my heart.
How NATO and KFOR can get rid of the warlords soon after that is their problem. They have ""called upon those spirits", they have to deal with them. Good luck!

Funny old stefan needs new glasses because he has not bothered to read multiple stories about this or maybe just his bigotry just gets in the way. As with usual serbophobes, he cannot back up his claim that serbia is bankrupt! Macht Arbeit Frei, no?

@ Ballkanbert

I go to Kosovo twice a year and I never saw anyone, not even one person walk around with bodyguards. There was no K-Albs who refused to help UÇK one way or another only traitors refused so your K-Alb friend must have been a sellout to Serbs that's why he needs to watch his back now. When it comes to Mr Thaçi I personally don't like him but stop believing propaganda until there is proof that he really did things he is accused of.

@ Mirel from Albania
Friendly message for those who wanted to change history today: per Greek books 1-st time albo visit Balkans in 1042 with George Maniac leader. Other name is Arnaut (means "they are not returned") com from Turks and they know your location wery well - today Azerbaijan. If I'm Arab I will play with letters: zer = L, shift N betwen a * i a new word will be = ALBANIJA (or old homeland). Albo in the Balkans just use old name, becouse if you are form Acient Dardani name of the contry will be Dardania not Albanija from Caspic Sea
Be happy and have nice day from Kosovo, don't use Kosova is not your word.

To the other comentator who was upset that I said that if serbs refuse all peace options they may face Oluja 2.
(Mirel from Albania, 25 October 2011 18:32)

Mirel, as I can see you support ethnic cleansing of unloyal population as a way of ethnic problem solution. I guess you believe that Milosevic should have ethnically cleansed Albanians from Kosovo and made Serbia stable.

"North Kosovo is part of Kosovo and will stay part of Kosovo!! Mark my words people!!"
Demi

Take it easy Rambo. North Kosovo is part of Kosovo just like Kosovo is part of Serbia. They west is getting tired of albanians. No one wants to visit poor old Thaci and lately there has been little oposition in the west to the actions of Kosovo serbs. No one seems to care about "prisoncamp Kosova" now that America and its allies have enough dept to make even Albania seem rich. I'm even begining to think they actually support the actions of freedomfighting serbs. I hope these actions spread to the rest of Kosovo. I mean what kind of society has been created by albanians in Kosovo. Media in Europe is highlighting the huge problems facing this puppet territory. One year ago it was difficult to find any negative articles about Kosovo now media is full of them. I have always said that running a democratic society is not for everyone. Albanians should stick to what they do best: taking care of donkeys and smuggling drugs to Europe.

@Milan
We albanians have our name for your Kosova.We call it Dardania from the name of acient Dardani tribes which in albanian means "Land of pears".
We wanted to rename the albanian region of Dardania but we accepted the Ahtisari plan so we gave up about the name.Also we gave up in the name of compromise the flag,national athem and other simbols.
Now is your turn to obey the Ahtisari plan because it favours serbs more than albanians.

To the other comentator who was upset that I said that if serbs refuse all peace options they may face Oluja 2.
I didn't know that Croats are with Turkey when they excecuted Oluja 1.
It seems that Oluja 1 made them very stable and they are gonna be part of EU in 2013.

@ mirel

Where did you find that ahtrisari package plan, in the garbage? Because it's been there a while now. btw one albanian terrorist (rosu) already expreienced oluja.

PEN, 25 October 2011 19:08)
I think your celebration is a little premature. You are celebrating a huge victory on a onesided decision. Maybe you should wait until you see Kfor response. It is extremely doubtful that these terms will be accepted. Kfor mandate is not to secure freedom of movement for themselves, it is for all citizens of Kosovo and international presence.
But the reaction to the disappointment of many "proSerb posters" will not be some massive massacre that you can use as a example of the plight of the Serbs in the north.

icj,

So, if you declare your own appartment as independent state and all the countries keep silence, what will it mean? Will you be able to take their silence as recognition?

Criminals in the northern part of Kosovo reject Pristina and now they are rejecting Belgrade. This creates the perfect opportunity for the internationals to step in and ensure freedom of movement and rule of law.

How comedic, who would have predicted that criminals don't like rule of law? >

Milan!
In the greek book for the first time you see albanian in 1000, in the greek book for the first time you see the serb name 800, in the Greek book for the first time you see Roma in 300 b.c. and we see italian in 1850. I'ts so dificult for you to understand that Albanin comes from Ilirian, like Italian comes from Romans. I'ts so dificult to understand that if Romans has build Chuches overall Balcany this does not mean that this is a Roman (Italian) territory like Serbs that builds churches in Kosova(Dardania) or Macedonia this is not a Serb territory, but a territory ruled for some time by a Serb Kingdom. Tell me what you read in Greek books when did Albanians comes. They don't say nothing because when they come we were here.Dear Serbs stop reading Colonialist history.

How can you constantly be spreading propaganda that the North is all criminals bla bla controlled by Belgrade bla bla.. it's absolute rubbish.
(trizo, 26 October 2011 04:37)

Because Albanian propaganda needs to make a group of people that reject their sweet multiethnic democratic la la land to look like a bunch of criminals. God forbid Albanians start believing the reality that there's a lot of people that want nothing to do with them or their shoddy politics :)

(Mirel from Albania, 25 October 2011 15:52)

There are more chances of NATO burning every Albanian in Kosovo to ashes than another Oljua.

Here is some information for you. If the west could use force they would have done this a long time ago, but they can’t and that is why you Albanians are so frustrated. The Serbs will get what they want and its not too far from that agreement being reached.

So, if you declare your own appartment as independent state and all the countries keep silence, what will it mean? Will you be able to take their silence as recognition?
(aaayyy, 25 October 2011 22:22)

I don't make assumptions like you do. So we, first, need to establish what silence means, i.e. "Yes" or "No" and, second, what is the question that was asked to other countries. After we have established that, we can come back to provide an answer for your very interesting question...

@"There was no K-Albs who refused to help UÇK one way or another only traitors refused so your K-Alb friend must have been a sellout to Serbs that's why he needs to watch his back now."
(Mendo, 25 October 2011 20:53)

So, you finally admit: who is not with the UCK (allegedly disbanded sic!) is a traitor and QUOTE "needs to watch his back now" END OF QUOTE. Which means Thaci and Co have established a regime of terror under the watchful eyes of the so-called "international community".
BTW From all what I can gather, all who are not loyal to the UCK warlords have not just to watch their back. In particular they have to watch their body organs...

I did not realize B92 was a history forum as well. You learn something new everyday

@ Ballkanbert

I did not admit anything it's in the open that 99.9% of K-Albs are with UÇK, and yes traitors should watch their back just like in any other country.

How can you constantly be spreading propaganda that the North is all criminals bla bla controlled by Belgrade bla bla.. it's absolute rubbish.

Can you not see the people manning the barricades in freezing cold weather?

They are just normal peasant Serbs defending their land. There are a lot of women just standing around with Serbian flags.. do you honestly believe they are the henchmen of criminals?

C'mon Albanians at least use some common sense here.

There are so many legitimate accusations of criminal activity in Pristina on a far greater scale then anything that has been brought to the North.

If you honestly believe that the customs borders operation is to stop these 'HUGE' criminal Serb syndicates in the North then you are so wrong. If that is what KFOR/EULEX were so serious about they would stop the massive heroin trade & other black market goods from passing through Pristina (first) and then being sent OUT to other european nations.

@Dori
The famous Greek historian Michael Ataliota in his book from page 9 to 18
noted: " George Maniac com from Sicily on the Balkans in March 1043.
Serbian king vojislav accepted rest in city Drach left them to live in the hills.
red thi book please and be happy -to late for change.

@Dori
The famous Greek historian Michael Ataliota in his book from page 9 to 18
noted: " George Maniac com from Sicily on the Balkans in March 1043.
Serbian king vojislav accepted rest in city Drach left them to live in the hills.
red thi book please and be happy -to late for change.
(milan, 26 October 2011 19:33)

Wow pretty interesting... I apologize with the administrators of the forum as this is totally unrelated to what the topic is, but I always find history fascinating...

@ I did not admit anything it's in the open that 99.9% of K-Albs are with UÇK, and yes traitors should watch their back just like in any other country.
(Mendo, 26 October 2011 14:40)

I am still assuming you are completey on the wrong track, my friend. If you are not and 99,9% of K-Albs were alongside with the (allegedly and in accordance with UN WSCR 1244 disbanded)UCK - well, in that case Europe should seal off oneself against some 1.5 million culprits. "Culprits" to use a moderate term.
You really seriously claim that your Kosova is such a nightmare?

@Milan!

I have not read this book but even so seems a week source, and a weak theory. You are telling that a small group of people that lives in the hills makes what is today the third nation in Balcany Albanian.

I sugest you one sourse catholyc encyclopedia and I think that they know more than you and me.

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=77023


http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=77023

@ winston!
You are right also you forgot to mention that according 1244,Kosovo is ONE cumstom zone and supposed to be magaged by Prishtina institutions.

Serbs in North are playing with fire.They have the special status under Kosovo institutiuons which means that they can manage all the .International community will get tired with these pampered people,and after running out of options,they may allow an Oluja 2.
Sad but true.

I honestly do not see what the problem is in N. KiM. The KFOR and EULEX are supposed to be status-neutral, and not act as worker bees for Pristina. If agreements were respected, there would be no problems, and matters between the Serbs and Albanians would be solved through negotiations. But I have a feeling that Brussels is trying some heavy-handed tactics here.

Kfor diden't accept your request.

The days of the serb criminals wich block roads in the north are numbered. They will very soon have to leave the roads while some of them will have to go to jail.

Those people at the barricades are payed by criminals in northern Kosovo to keep the roads barricaded. This for own profit.


North Kosovo is part of Kosovo and will stay part of Kosovo!! Mark my words people!!

@(winston, 25 October 2011 13:36)
Well, Winston, I believe everybody a bit familiar with the issue is supposed to know what the main problem is. The problem has a name and an address. The name is Thaci as the strongman of the regime occupying the institutions in Pristina and his residence is there. He stirred once again up trouble! As long as he and the other warlords are considered by the self-appointed international community - the usual suspects in NATO and EU - as partner in problem resolution, the process will go down the drain. The warlords cannot be part of the problem resolution, they embody the problem.
I do not believe in conspiracy theories. The warlords are increasingly bothering for the NATO and the EU. However, there are still some reasons that they do not want to drop these hot potatoes: Firstly, they do not want to enter into a debate, why they initially supported the warlords and bombed them into power. Secondly, they fear that the warlords might unleash their reckless UCK-gunmen (in Kosovo and beyond)- which would mean they would have to fight them - however, the general public of the NATO and EU countries would not accept casualities among their troops down there (This was the case 1999 as well and main reason that "the coaltion of the willing" in NATO used the UCK as ground troops of sort).

So EU and NATO are actually waiting that people in Kosovo finally break away from the notorious trouble makers and, most probably, big fishes of organised crime.

On the other hand, they fear after that it could get even worse: with the far-right movement climbing onto the driver seats of the institutions in troubled Kosovo.

To sum it up: NATO and EU - UNMIK initially with an UCK admirer and THaci friend as Head of Mission anyway - have created a complete mess and do not how how to find a way out. Anyway: there are "political problems" like KFOR-speaker Frank Martin termed it yesterday accurately - problems they cannot leave to KFOR to have them resolved.
What still is of importance: Only a return to the status before the current conflict was sparked - to the status ante - can be the basis for continuation of a process aimed on sustainable peace and stability in Kosovo - and the entire region. Apparently, people on the barricades are the only factor able to push this through. Therefore I am with them with my thoughts and from the depth of my heart.
How NATO and KFOR can get rid of the warlords soon after that is their problem. They have ""called upon those spirits", they have to deal with them. Good luck!

Very soon KFOR won't ask Serbs at all.

Don't provoke the Serbian people Mr. Drews and act in accordance of UN resolution 1244. KFOR/EULEX should be status neutral and NOT serving Thaci "The Snake" and his gangsters in Pristina.

Wow ballkanbert you're such an Ballkan "expert", NOT. Shocking you "know" everything when it comes to UÇK, Kosovo and Mr Thaçi. Oh dear why am I not surprised with brainwashed people from Serbian propaganda.
I cannot belive that KFOR is letting 3-4 illegal mayers put conditions on the free movement for the citizen in the North of Kosovo.

So Frau Merkel, is your blackmail of Serbia going to p*ss off jerman business who are desperate to get in to serbia? There is competition.
(Aleks, 25 October 2011 14:58)

Very funny mate lol

Judging by the German Economy figures and in particular the size of German Exports ( more than 1000 BN euros), I don't think that German businesses do even give a sh... about serbian market.

It's more obvious that serbian tiny bankrupted economy is in fact desperate to have German widely well-known companies invest a couple of euros down there...

Take it easy lol

Today there are 3 different world on the Serbian land of Kosovo and Metohija are Serbs, Albo and Western Civilization with Ghetto.
Let us start with the names of Kosovo or whu give the name Kosovo? The explanation for those who don't know answer is very simple.
When the Intelligent Slav Serb people came 1-st time in to the region they see around to many blackbird ( Serb Kos) also Serb created more place with blackbird name such is: city Kosovska Mitrovica, Kosovo Polje( blackbird field ).
Hungry Albo with other use Serb name "Kosovo" and wanted artifical # 3 Albo (Albania and Azerbeijan is member of the UN. Arrogant Western civilization is not perfect they don't count for blackbird has made a mistake with barbed wire and no sign above wire for blackbird:"IF BLACKBIRD FLY OVER WILL BE PUNISH BY LAW"
God bird say: I liked serbs they use my name for their land - this name(kos) must stay for ever - no Ghetto for me.

@Milan
We albanians have our name for your Kosova.We call it Dardania from the name of acient Dardani tribes which in albanian means "Land of pears".
We wanted to rename the albanian region of Dardania but we accepted the Ahtisari plan so we gave up about the name.Also we gave up in the name of compromise the flag,national athem and other simbols.
Now is your turn to obey the Ahtisari plan because it favours serbs more than albanians.

To the other comentator who was upset that I said that if serbs refuse all peace options they may face Oluja 2.
I didn't know that Croats are with Turkey when they excecuted Oluja 1.
It seems that Oluja 1 made them very stable and they are gonna be part of EU in 2013.

10 russian military personnel spotted in N. Mitrovica, as reported via official propaganda website, Balkan Insight:

http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/russian-s-visiting-the-barricades-in-the-north

On another note, China to invest 2bn in EPS and build Nikola Tesla 3 power station. Hmm, why didn't the jermans get that one? Again via BI

http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/china-to-invest-2-billion-euro-in-serbia-s-energy-sector

Finally, Lidl want to get in to Serbia in a big way (same source):

http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/german-s-lidl-eyes-locations-in-serbia

So Frau Merkel, is your blackmail of Serbia going to p*ss off jerman business who are desperate to get in to serbia? There is competition.

International community will get tired with these pampered people,and after running out of options,they may allow an Oluja 2.
Sad but true.
(Mirel from Albania, 25 October 2011 15:52)

A perfect example why Albania should not be allowed anywhere near the EU. Try Turkey for your next holiday. You share the same values.

@(Mendo, 25 October 2011 17:11)

Mendo - Yes, it was shocking what I learned about UCK and Thaci, in particular when I was working in Kosovo in a long-term mission.
No, I was not exposed to a large extend of propaganda from Serbian side. The most interesting things I learned from Kosovo Albanians. One of them and friend of mine, who did not want to collaborate with UCK, disappeared withou leaving any trace from Prizren. Another one, Kosovo Albanian senior politician, as well refusing to collaborate with the ruthless war heroes AFTER THE WAR, had already more than 10 body guards when I saw him last time - not to protect him from Serbs, but from "The Snake´s" so called "judges"!
Yes, I believe you would like to faciliate "movement" for the people in the North - just not free movement as you claim, but forced movement like the mob orchestrated by the UCK "established" after UNMIK´s arrival arrival and under the watchful eyes of the so-called international community with the well-known peak of what you apparently understand as "movement" in 2004.
Thank you for revealing your mind set so openly!

I love it. A small defenceless community have effectively neutered the most powerful military machine in the world. And through peaceful means. The message is, you can't push us around. The camera's are watching. NATO doesn't know what to do. I have great admiration for these people. They've got guts. I hope some of them see this message. As for mirel from albania. Stew in your own bile chum. You're a sad individual. The best oluja we could all hope for, is the one that sweeps your methane away from our nostrils.

Funny old stefan needs new glasses because he has not bothered to read multiple stories about this or maybe just his bigotry just gets in the way. As with usual serbophobes, he cannot back up his claim that serbia is bankrupt! Macht Arbeit Frei, no?

"The customs are there to stop illegal activities which will benefit both Serbia and Kosovo."
(n n zeka, 25 October 2011 14:34)

No, Kosovo custom officers are there to get the bribes for their own pockets (probably with a percentage going directly to Thaci's clan) instead to local Serb smugglers. Look at the border between Albanian and Kosovo - there you have illegal activities on bigger scales. And they don't only 'smuggle' food, fuel and cigarettes there, but drugs, weapons and some more things, too.

@ Mirel from Albania
Friendly message for those who wanted to change history today: per Greek books 1-st time albo visit Balkans in 1042 with George Maniac leader. Other name is Arnaut (means "they are not returned") com from Turks and they know your location wery well - today Azerbaijan. If I'm Arab I will play with letters: zer = L, shift N betwen a * i a new word will be = ALBANIJA (or old homeland). Albo in the Balkans just use old name, becouse if you are form Acient Dardani name of the contry will be Dardania not Albanija from Caspic Sea
Be happy and have nice day from Kosovo, don't use Kosova is not your word.

I honestly do not see what the problem is in N. KiM.
(winston, 25 October 2011 13:36)

There's no problem in northern Kosovo. The legitimate and democratically elected representatives of the Serbian community have created a common platform that reflects the collective wishes of the people there that they do not want any illegal parallel institutions from the so-called Republic of Kosova established there. The extremists in Pristina are only provoking conflict with their harsh words and the comments from regular Albanian posters here only affirm what is obvious to everyone: Albanians are incapable of working with other people unless they are in a clearly subordinate position. Pristina has failed miserably and all they can do now is shout empty threats :)

@ mirel

Where did you find that ahtrisari package plan, in the garbage? Because it's been there a while now. btw one albanian terrorist (rosu) already expreienced oluja.

I don't think anyone is interested in allowing the organised crime go on.

Politicians in Pristina as well as in Belgrade, and as a matter of fact pretty much all Balkan countries, are under huge pressure from their communities and European institutions to curb the organised crime, and free the markets from the monopolies.

The customs are there to stop illegal activities which will benefit both Serbia and Kosovo.

"North Kosovo is part of Kosovo and will stay part of Kosovo!! Mark my words people!!"
Demi

Take it easy Rambo. North Kosovo is part of Kosovo just like Kosovo is part of Serbia. They west is getting tired of albanians. No one wants to visit poor old Thaci and lately there has been little oposition in the west to the actions of Kosovo serbs. No one seems to care about "prisoncamp Kosova" now that America and its allies have enough dept to make even Albania seem rich. I'm even begining to think they actually support the actions of freedomfighting serbs. I hope these actions spread to the rest of Kosovo. I mean what kind of society has been created by albanians in Kosovo. Media in Europe is highlighting the huge problems facing this puppet territory. One year ago it was difficult to find any negative articles about Kosovo now media is full of them. I have always said that running a democratic society is not for everyone. Albanians should stick to what they do best: taking care of donkeys and smuggling drugs to Europe.

Criminals in the northern part of Kosovo reject Pristina and now they are rejecting Belgrade. This creates the perfect opportunity for the internationals to step in and ensure freedom of movement and rule of law.

How comedic, who would have predicted that criminals don't like rule of law? >

To the other comentator who was upset that I said that if serbs refuse all peace options they may face Oluja 2.
(Mirel from Albania, 25 October 2011 18:32)

Mirel, as I can see you support ethnic cleansing of unloyal population as a way of ethnic problem solution. I guess you believe that Milosevic should have ethnically cleansed Albanians from Kosovo and made Serbia stable.

icj,

So, if you declare your own appartment as independent state and all the countries keep silence, what will it mean? Will you be able to take their silence as recognition?

@"There was no K-Albs who refused to help UÇK one way or another only traitors refused so your K-Alb friend must have been a sellout to Serbs that's why he needs to watch his back now."
(Mendo, 25 October 2011 20:53)

So, you finally admit: who is not with the UCK (allegedly disbanded sic!) is a traitor and QUOTE "needs to watch his back now" END OF QUOTE. Which means Thaci and Co have established a regime of terror under the watchful eyes of the so-called "international community".
BTW From all what I can gather, all who are not loyal to the UCK warlords have not just to watch their back. In particular they have to watch their body organs...

@ Ballkanbert

I go to Kosovo twice a year and I never saw anyone, not even one person walk around with bodyguards. There was no K-Albs who refused to help UÇK one way or another only traitors refused so your K-Alb friend must have been a sellout to Serbs that's why he needs to watch his back now. When it comes to Mr Thaçi I personally don't like him but stop believing propaganda until there is proof that he really did things he is accused of.

How can you constantly be spreading propaganda that the North is all criminals bla bla controlled by Belgrade bla bla.. it's absolute rubbish.

Can you not see the people manning the barricades in freezing cold weather?

They are just normal peasant Serbs defending their land. There are a lot of women just standing around with Serbian flags.. do you honestly believe they are the henchmen of criminals?

C'mon Albanians at least use some common sense here.

There are so many legitimate accusations of criminal activity in Pristina on a far greater scale then anything that has been brought to the North.

If you honestly believe that the customs borders operation is to stop these 'HUGE' criminal Serb syndicates in the North then you are so wrong. If that is what KFOR/EULEX were so serious about they would stop the massive heroin trade & other black market goods from passing through Pristina (first) and then being sent OUT to other european nations.

I did not realize B92 was a history forum as well. You learn something new everyday

@ Ballkanbert

I did not admit anything it's in the open that 99.9% of K-Albs are with UÇK, and yes traitors should watch their back just like in any other country.

PEN, 25 October 2011 19:08)
I think your celebration is a little premature. You are celebrating a huge victory on a onesided decision. Maybe you should wait until you see Kfor response. It is extremely doubtful that these terms will be accepted. Kfor mandate is not to secure freedom of movement for themselves, it is for all citizens of Kosovo and international presence.
But the reaction to the disappointment of many "proSerb posters" will not be some massive massacre that you can use as a example of the plight of the Serbs in the north.

Milan!
In the greek book for the first time you see albanian in 1000, in the greek book for the first time you see the serb name 800, in the Greek book for the first time you see Roma in 300 b.c. and we see italian in 1850. I'ts so dificult for you to understand that Albanin comes from Ilirian, like Italian comes from Romans. I'ts so dificult to understand that if Romans has build Chuches overall Balcany this does not mean that this is a Roman (Italian) territory like Serbs that builds churches in Kosova(Dardania) or Macedonia this is not a Serb territory, but a territory ruled for some time by a Serb Kingdom. Tell me what you read in Greek books when did Albanians comes. They don't say nothing because when they come we were here.Dear Serbs stop reading Colonialist history.

(Mirel from Albania, 25 October 2011 15:52)

There are more chances of NATO burning every Albanian in Kosovo to ashes than another Oljua.

Here is some information for you. If the west could use force they would have done this a long time ago, but they can’t and that is why you Albanians are so frustrated. The Serbs will get what they want and its not too far from that agreement being reached.

How can you constantly be spreading propaganda that the North is all criminals bla bla controlled by Belgrade bla bla.. it's absolute rubbish.
(trizo, 26 October 2011 04:37)

Because Albanian propaganda needs to make a group of people that reject their sweet multiethnic democratic la la land to look like a bunch of criminals. God forbid Albanians start believing the reality that there's a lot of people that want nothing to do with them or their shoddy politics :)

So, if you declare your own appartment as independent state and all the countries keep silence, what will it mean? Will you be able to take their silence as recognition?
(aaayyy, 25 October 2011 22:22)

I don't make assumptions like you do. So we, first, need to establish what silence means, i.e. "Yes" or "No" and, second, what is the question that was asked to other countries. After we have established that, we can come back to provide an answer for your very interesting question...

@Dori
The famous Greek historian Michael Ataliota in his book from page 9 to 18
noted: " George Maniac com from Sicily on the Balkans in March 1043.
Serbian king vojislav accepted rest in city Drach left them to live in the hills.
red thi book please and be happy -to late for change.

@Dori
The famous Greek historian Michael Ataliota in his book from page 9 to 18
noted: " George Maniac com from Sicily on the Balkans in March 1043.
Serbian king vojislav accepted rest in city Drach left them to live in the hills.
red thi book please and be happy -to late for change.
(milan, 26 October 2011 19:33)

Wow pretty interesting... I apologize with the administrators of the forum as this is totally unrelated to what the topic is, but I always find history fascinating...

@ I did not admit anything it's in the open that 99.9% of K-Albs are with UÇK, and yes traitors should watch their back just like in any other country.
(Mendo, 26 October 2011 14:40)

I am still assuming you are completey on the wrong track, my friend. If you are not and 99,9% of K-Albs were alongside with the (allegedly and in accordance with UN WSCR 1244 disbanded)UCK - well, in that case Europe should seal off oneself against some 1.5 million culprits. "Culprits" to use a moderate term.
You really seriously claim that your Kosova is such a nightmare?

@Milan!

I have not read this book but even so seems a week source, and a weak theory. You are telling that a small group of people that lives in the hills makes what is today the third nation in Balcany Albanian.

I sugest you one sourse catholyc encyclopedia and I think that they know more than you and me.

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=77023


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