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Friday, 21.10.2011.

09:12

KFOR headed toward barricades, Serbs say

Serbs at the barricades have been told that two KFOR combat vehicles equipped with water cannons are headed to the village of Jagnjenica.

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to Uli

pre 12 godina

as exKFOR and a foreigner I `ve got an impression that Kosovo belongs to Serbs because every historical monument tells that to me. Indeed,there are some Turkish muslim occupiers building - or they wanted to leave their imprint - that demonstrate historical injustice and violence they brought. albanians are secretly perfroming what where turks left off...
Balkans would be much better place if albanians introduced once again Hoxha`s policy. I have been around and all those serbo-croatian speakers eventually (of course they may grab for each others throats next moment, but afterwards have no clue what was the reason) can get along but noone wants "illryans" - they were never invited to exYugo or Balkan recreation events - so , it is time to look in the mirror.
as Kosovo’s first ombudsman Marek Antoni Nowicki commented on things in KiM “One thing is clear: a lot of things need to change, both on the part of the international mission here as well as on the part of local Kosovo leaders, the local government and, most of all, the Albanian community.

trizo

pre 12 godina

@ aaayy

These guys contradict themselves and have double standards.. the only argument they have got is about establishing 'law & order' and they only say that because they hear it from the heads in Pristina.

We have the strongest history & the most years in control of Kosovo and that is undeniable (unless of course you're getting empirical evidence from a K.Albanian scholar).

The borders were taken from us and put into international hands for their own agendas but this cannot & will not remain like this for too long. More countries do NOT recognise KosovA.

The only reason that we are in this current situation is because America have the military power otherwise it would be a different situation altogether. The Americans have not earned this power but profited from less fortunate & exploited people all over the world.

No other country has interfered in so many other countries' business like America has and they cannot keep this up forever.

Even a lot of Americans hate their country and the image America has because of all the greed & hunger for power that their government has.

They even put people in jail so easily to exploit cheap labour and are privatising many of their prisons so they can make profit from locking people up! There are 7 million Americans who are either in jail or on probation!!!

I've been all over the world to every continent except Africa & Americans are not popular at all. We all know there are good American people but a good government/justice system/geopolitical objectives etc? That's a different story.

I'm sorry to say kalbs but it is only a matter of years until things change and only then you'll look back and wish you'd been able to stand on your own two feet and make your own decisions instead of being moved like a puppet on strings.

We will be back to our holy land ;) mark my words.

uli

pre 12 godina

I feel tired and sick of some people here that still claim Kosovo Serbian land. It is not and never was your land. That is Albanian land and belong to the people of Kosova. There is no more Yugoslavia, wake up. Sooner you realize it better will be for you. No one wants to put up with your non sence anymore. If albanians of Preseva would have acted like you are acting in northern Kosovo, you would have killed them all by now. You dont own Kosovo Kosovo belong to the people of Kosovo. Kosovo belong to Albanians and some serbs that live there.

to Denis2

pre 12 godina

r u feeding their children? yes, civilized or be more precise - naive - people unfortunately do feed albos, and in a long run, through that shooting in their own foot. what about aid during Yugo, and now by EU@US, So pls, albos stop this God gives to us children nonsense - in this case, Insh`Allah, he took them away while commiting crimes against KiM minorities in 1998-99. Right!?

icj1

pre 12 godina

I am glad the cameras are catching these foreign occupation forces and their brutal actions agains peacefull demonstrators.
(Dragan, 21 October 2011 14:14)

The UNSC's forces are foreign occupation forces ?!

The UNSC's forces use brutal actions agains peacefull demonstrators ?!

These foreigners need be reminded that they are on sovereign Serbian soil, and are not welcome in Serbia.
(Dragan, 21 October 2011 14:14)

I'm sorry, but you have to tell that to Russia, China and the others in the UNSC who have sent them there... What Serbia thinks is not relevant. It is the UNSC which decides.

They will go home with their tails between their legs eventually, it's only a matter of time.
(Dragan, 21 October 2011 14:14)

Sure, we soon as 1244 is repealed which is not going to happen any time soon.

icj1

pre 12 godina

Unfortunately, the media control is strong in the US. Although we supposedly have freedom of speech, publishers will only publish what they want, and over the past two decades, much hasn't been published that's pro Serb, with the exception of tennis stuff.
(Daniel, 21 October 2011 12:36)

Oh, thanks for letting us know... From today I'll start following the free and independent Xinhua News Agency.

Now, somebody may ask how do I know that Xinhua is free and independent ? Simple... because they have published pro-Serb news. From now onwards, the standard of measuring whether a media is controlled or not is whether they publish or not pro-Serb news (regardless what the facts are).

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

Ultimately, it would have been better for them to have recognized Croatia and not been driven out.
(adriatik)

They did recognize Croatia, just declared their own independency from Croatia.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

Ultimately, it would have been better for them to have recognized Croatia and not been driven out. I fear the the same fate awaits the Serbs North of Kosovo.
(adriatik, 21 October 2011 10:53)

So you support driving out - ethnic cleansing that - is of unloyal population as a way of ethnic conflict solution. So why do you complain about Milosevic's actions?

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

as for the radicalization of albanians, in all movements you have factions. 8 years albanians pursued passive resistance. 8 years they were ignored. they were stripped of most rights, kicked out of universities and a period of police state followed.
(adriatik)

So your main point is that "our Albanian plight in Kosovo is/was a real plight, while Serbian plight in Kosovo throughout centuries is pure Serbian propaganda."

to Denis

pre 12 godina

strange, russian name u have got? but, overbreeding like albos do is nothing to be proud of - humans plan family animals do not but act by instincts. after all, what will u do in this overpopulated world if u already now are not able to have normal life for every albanian? the answer is - criminal activities and that u r famous all over the world. but as Tao says - The soft overcomes the hard; and the weak the strong and Hence he who (relies on) the strength of his forces does not
conquer; and a tree which is strong will fill the out-stretched arms,
(and thereby invites the feller.) So albanians - y have always thought u r the best and strong but u can`t eventually escape The Justice!

Lenard

pre 12 godina

Several hundreds of Serbs have gathered at the barricades in the Ibarski Kolašin region, including mayors of Serb towns, priests and local monks. What yokel entertainment I'm surprised some local entrepreneur hasn't set some chairs close by selling chevapchichi with butter milk giving running commentaries to the greatest show on earth. Definitely could be entertaining tourist traction I'm sure Ataman would be the fist to go and see it.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

Are you feeding their children? For sure not. What land grabbing exercise, didn't you steal that land in 1912 with the backing of Russia, and kept it for one century through brutal force and persecution?
(Denis, 21 October 2011 15:38)
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Actually Denis, having children is not just about feeding them. I know this may come and a surprise but children need love and guidance, which is something I see all of the time in Serbia. Children are idolised and cherished. When I compare that to Albanian children, throwing rocks at buses, desecrating graves and abusing elderly Serbians I can only assume they have been brought up with hate.

I see Albanians coming here daily spitting at Serbians but I don't think you hate us. Actually I really believe you hate yourselves. We can be proud of having world famous sportsmen/women and intellects. Serbia is deemed a safe country relative to world standards and the hospitality here is world class. If you like having as many children as possible and raising them with hate, what you end up with is a backward region full of crime with people always blaming others for their own misfortunes.

As for ben's comments. Just scratch the surface and what he is promoting is further ethnic cleansing. He claims KiM has 95% Albanians so Serbians should move out and give their land to them. You see, according to his logic, India and China should now demand close to half of the world's land since they almost represent half the world's population.

Finally, I really don't understand how we have occupied KiM for a century when we have centuries old sites spread all around the province. Your nomadic tribe, which originated from Turkey, has nothing to show for it.

Denis

pre 12 godina

LOL! ben, you are funny. That's what happens when poor impoverished Albanians have 7 children and live on top of each other. It is a shame that children are brought up as commodities in this land grab exercise instead of learning to love.
ZORAN

Are you feeding their children? For sure not. What land grabbing exercise, didn't you steal that land in 1912 with the backing of Russia, and kept it for one century through brutal force and persecution?

I think it is a blessing to have as many children as you can, and use the tools that God gave you, rather than vegetate or being a sterile, eunuk society getting older and older by the day. Just as a reminder, Serbia's population is one of the fastest declining ones in the world.

Blero

pre 12 godina

@Srboslav ! In every other country of this planet anyone who open wholes in the public roads are considered as Criminals or Thugs and the state is ready to deal with them one way or another.The same will happen to you if you dont respect the ruleif law.You think you still live in yugoslavia and you are allowed to do whatever your wish but no this is the end you will have to lern how to respect the others one way or another.

Yet Another J S

pre 12 godina

There are those that comment on how few People who happen to be Serbs are up there in the North of Kosovo.

The important thing for People, even some Albanians and KFOR and EULUX People to understand is that every Human Being is important to those who have not disqualified themselves as being Human Beings, and who have disqualified themselves worthy of some Rights.

Dragan

pre 12 godina

I am glad the cameras are catching these foreign occupation forces and their brutal actions agains peacefull demonstrators. The more they show their brute force aggression and what they are all about, the sooner the Serbian army will be back there to protect their citizens.
These foreigners need be reminded that they are on sovereign Serbian soil, and are not welcome in Serbia. They will go home with their tails between their legs eventually, it's only a matter of time. Keep up the resistance, all of Serbia is proud of you!
Cheers!!

Srboslav

pre 12 godina

O trust me, they will remove all of them, just a matter of time.
(FROM FERIZAJ, 21 October 2011 09:32)

Sure, and new ones will be built :-) Holes will be put in the roads as next step, what will KFOR do then? fix the roads and put new asphalt on them also? SOunds like a great deal to me!

Zoran

pre 12 godina

1 Kosovar Serb has 5 times more land than 1 Kosovar Albanian- and they still cry to have been ripped off- it is simply unbelievable
(ben, 21 October 2011 12:50)
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LOL! ben, you are funny. That's what happens when poor impoverished Albanians have 7 children and live on top of each other. It is a shame that children are brought up as commodities in this land grab exercise instead of learning to love.

Wally

pre 12 godina

Adriatik-They were forcibly cleansed from Krajina. They didn't have a choice. I'm not talking about Martic etc, i'm talking about innocent grannies and old men and children. Even now they can't return from fear of violence. Going away for a couple of weeks, maybe on my return. Will keep posting though, i am sure you will be happy to hear!!

Srboljub

pre 12 godina

ben-look at the direction population and ownership is heading. Dramatically down. Just look what happened to the guy in Pec who wouldnt sell his land. Covert ethnic cleansing. This has been going on for ages. Before the war we were easily 15%. We can use that number.

PEN

pre 12 godina

FROM FERIZAJ- You mean from Urosevac, not the name you made up once you stole the territory from its rightful holders. Perhaps you should consider joining your friends KFOR on the frontline. But no, wait a minute. You usually let them do the dirty work for you, then move in behind to mop up the pensioners and children, and then steal their land.

Wally

pre 12 godina

Adriatik-fear or hope. The latter i imagine. Are you suggesting the Kabs will ethnically cleanse the remaining Serbs as the Croats did. Talk about inciting war. Listen, if Serbia can be carved up, so can Kosovo. End of. Believe me, we are going nowhere, The hoax will be revealed. Thanks for the invitation btw. Wouldn't mind at all, you seem like a decent chap. Wouldn't know how to make it happen though. Cheers!

adriatik

pre 12 godina

Wally

Not for a moment am I insinuating ethnic cleansing. What I am saying is that its better for Kosovoar Serbs to remain where they are, as it would have been for the Serbs of Krajina.

p.s. there's a very nice cafe on Berwick Street, Soho called Foxcroft & Ginger. if you want to meet up, let me know. my treat

Daniel

pre 12 godina

I cannot imagine NATO soldiers massacring Serbian civilians over this issue. If they do, the media will be there to see so the whole world will know. Unfortunately, the media control is strong in the US. Although we supposedly have freedom of speech, publishers will only publish what they want, and over the past two decades, much hasn't been published that's pro Serb, with the exception of tennis stuff. The Washington Post hasn't even taken time to have its own reporters publish anything about the barricades; it relies on the Associated Press. How I wish I could be there with you to stand against these troops, and I'm only half Serb. I am with you in spirit though and will continue to push your cause here in the US.
Much love and stay strong Serbs of Kosovo.

ben

pre 12 godina

Too much attention and energy wasted for 60,000 Serbians in north Kosova. They make only a small town or a small street in a metropolitan area.

These guys constitute less than 3% of the Kosova's population and want to grab 20% of the land.

The other part of the 3-4% of the Serbs south of Ibar have land that goes up to 15-18% of the entire territory of Kosova and still cry that they are persecuted.

Serbs in Kosova who make abot 6-7% of the population possess land that goes to above 35% of the entire Kosova’s territory.

1 Kosovar Serb has 5 times more land than 1 Kosovar Albanian- and they still cry to have been ripped off- it is simply unbelievable
Each Serb including Serbia proper has over 3 times more land than one Kosovar Albanian. And still cry that they have been robbed.

adriatik

pre 12 godina

No media outlet has stated that all the barricades have been removed. However, the Serbs have been pushed back. This has the makings of another Krajina. The Serbs there were mobilized, defended their ancient home et etc. Ultimately, it would have been better for them to have recognized Croatia and not been driven out. I fear the the same fate awaits the Serbs North of Kosovo.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

KFOR troops are still located around 150 meters from the barricades that Serbs set up in the village of Zupče and they still have not tried to remove them.
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Well done to the Serbs! I read last night on a few Western media outlets that NATO had successfully removed the barricade but that is obviously a lie.

Now I can't see how NATO can win this without resorting to violence and shooting people, however, the cameras are ready to spread this around the world. When the fire comes, it is all over for NATO and Albanians. They will then realise that negotiations really were the best option.

In the mean time, my sources tell me that the alternative routes for passage between Central Serbia and KiM are working just fine. NATO have no access to close them now. Too bad NATO and too bad Thaci, this is the bone that gets stuck in your throat. Albanians in the end will pay for it.

Some points to note. This has strengthened the opposition, the current sellout government has little control over events, EU membership support has fallen dramatically, NATO support is practically non-existent. It looks like this event has finally woken up Serbians while Russia and China are finally ready to provide concrete support. After allowing crippling sanctions on Serbia, it is about time.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

KFOR troops are still located around 150 meters from the barricades that Serbs set up in the village of Zupče and they still have not tried to remove them.
--
Well done to the Serbs! I read last night on a few Western media outlets that NATO had successfully removed the barricade but that is obviously a lie.

Now I can't see how NATO can win this without resorting to violence and shooting people, however, the cameras are ready to spread this around the world. When the fire comes, it is all over for NATO and Albanians. They will then realise that negotiations really were the best option.

In the mean time, my sources tell me that the alternative routes for passage between Central Serbia and KiM are working just fine. NATO have no access to close them now. Too bad NATO and too bad Thaci, this is the bone that gets stuck in your throat. Albanians in the end will pay for it.

Some points to note. This has strengthened the opposition, the current sellout government has little control over events, EU membership support has fallen dramatically, NATO support is practically non-existent. It looks like this event has finally woken up Serbians while Russia and China are finally ready to provide concrete support. After allowing crippling sanctions on Serbia, it is about time.

PEN

pre 12 godina

FROM FERIZAJ- You mean from Urosevac, not the name you made up once you stole the territory from its rightful holders. Perhaps you should consider joining your friends KFOR on the frontline. But no, wait a minute. You usually let them do the dirty work for you, then move in behind to mop up the pensioners and children, and then steal their land.

Dragan

pre 12 godina

I am glad the cameras are catching these foreign occupation forces and their brutal actions agains peacefull demonstrators. The more they show their brute force aggression and what they are all about, the sooner the Serbian army will be back there to protect their citizens.
These foreigners need be reminded that they are on sovereign Serbian soil, and are not welcome in Serbia. They will go home with their tails between their legs eventually, it's only a matter of time. Keep up the resistance, all of Serbia is proud of you!
Cheers!!

Daniel

pre 12 godina

I cannot imagine NATO soldiers massacring Serbian civilians over this issue. If they do, the media will be there to see so the whole world will know. Unfortunately, the media control is strong in the US. Although we supposedly have freedom of speech, publishers will only publish what they want, and over the past two decades, much hasn't been published that's pro Serb, with the exception of tennis stuff. The Washington Post hasn't even taken time to have its own reporters publish anything about the barricades; it relies on the Associated Press. How I wish I could be there with you to stand against these troops, and I'm only half Serb. I am with you in spirit though and will continue to push your cause here in the US.
Much love and stay strong Serbs of Kosovo.

adriatik

pre 12 godina

No media outlet has stated that all the barricades have been removed. However, the Serbs have been pushed back. This has the makings of another Krajina. The Serbs there were mobilized, defended their ancient home et etc. Ultimately, it would have been better for them to have recognized Croatia and not been driven out. I fear the the same fate awaits the Serbs North of Kosovo.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

1 Kosovar Serb has 5 times more land than 1 Kosovar Albanian- and they still cry to have been ripped off- it is simply unbelievable
(ben, 21 October 2011 12:50)
--
LOL! ben, you are funny. That's what happens when poor impoverished Albanians have 7 children and live on top of each other. It is a shame that children are brought up as commodities in this land grab exercise instead of learning to love.

adriatik

pre 12 godina

Wally

Not for a moment am I insinuating ethnic cleansing. What I am saying is that its better for Kosovoar Serbs to remain where they are, as it would have been for the Serbs of Krajina.

p.s. there's a very nice cafe on Berwick Street, Soho called Foxcroft & Ginger. if you want to meet up, let me know. my treat

Denis

pre 12 godina

LOL! ben, you are funny. That's what happens when poor impoverished Albanians have 7 children and live on top of each other. It is a shame that children are brought up as commodities in this land grab exercise instead of learning to love.
ZORAN

Are you feeding their children? For sure not. What land grabbing exercise, didn't you steal that land in 1912 with the backing of Russia, and kept it for one century through brutal force and persecution?

I think it is a blessing to have as many children as you can, and use the tools that God gave you, rather than vegetate or being a sterile, eunuk society getting older and older by the day. Just as a reminder, Serbia's population is one of the fastest declining ones in the world.

Wally

pre 12 godina

Adriatik-fear or hope. The latter i imagine. Are you suggesting the Kabs will ethnically cleanse the remaining Serbs as the Croats did. Talk about inciting war. Listen, if Serbia can be carved up, so can Kosovo. End of. Believe me, we are going nowhere, The hoax will be revealed. Thanks for the invitation btw. Wouldn't mind at all, you seem like a decent chap. Wouldn't know how to make it happen though. Cheers!

Wally

pre 12 godina

Adriatik-They were forcibly cleansed from Krajina. They didn't have a choice. I'm not talking about Martic etc, i'm talking about innocent grannies and old men and children. Even now they can't return from fear of violence. Going away for a couple of weeks, maybe on my return. Will keep posting though, i am sure you will be happy to hear!!

Srboslav

pre 12 godina

O trust me, they will remove all of them, just a matter of time.
(FROM FERIZAJ, 21 October 2011 09:32)

Sure, and new ones will be built :-) Holes will be put in the roads as next step, what will KFOR do then? fix the roads and put new asphalt on them also? SOunds like a great deal to me!

ben

pre 12 godina

Too much attention and energy wasted for 60,000 Serbians in north Kosova. They make only a small town or a small street in a metropolitan area.

These guys constitute less than 3% of the Kosova's population and want to grab 20% of the land.

The other part of the 3-4% of the Serbs south of Ibar have land that goes up to 15-18% of the entire territory of Kosova and still cry that they are persecuted.

Serbs in Kosova who make abot 6-7% of the population possess land that goes to above 35% of the entire Kosova’s territory.

1 Kosovar Serb has 5 times more land than 1 Kosovar Albanian- and they still cry to have been ripped off- it is simply unbelievable
Each Serb including Serbia proper has over 3 times more land than one Kosovar Albanian. And still cry that they have been robbed.

Srboljub

pre 12 godina

ben-look at the direction population and ownership is heading. Dramatically down. Just look what happened to the guy in Pec who wouldnt sell his land. Covert ethnic cleansing. This has been going on for ages. Before the war we were easily 15%. We can use that number.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

Are you feeding their children? For sure not. What land grabbing exercise, didn't you steal that land in 1912 with the backing of Russia, and kept it for one century through brutal force and persecution?
(Denis, 21 October 2011 15:38)
--
Actually Denis, having children is not just about feeding them. I know this may come and a surprise but children need love and guidance, which is something I see all of the time in Serbia. Children are idolised and cherished. When I compare that to Albanian children, throwing rocks at buses, desecrating graves and abusing elderly Serbians I can only assume they have been brought up with hate.

I see Albanians coming here daily spitting at Serbians but I don't think you hate us. Actually I really believe you hate yourselves. We can be proud of having world famous sportsmen/women and intellects. Serbia is deemed a safe country relative to world standards and the hospitality here is world class. If you like having as many children as possible and raising them with hate, what you end up with is a backward region full of crime with people always blaming others for their own misfortunes.

As for ben's comments. Just scratch the surface and what he is promoting is further ethnic cleansing. He claims KiM has 95% Albanians so Serbians should move out and give their land to them. You see, according to his logic, India and China should now demand close to half of the world's land since they almost represent half the world's population.

Finally, I really don't understand how we have occupied KiM for a century when we have centuries old sites spread all around the province. Your nomadic tribe, which originated from Turkey, has nothing to show for it.

Blero

pre 12 godina

@Srboslav ! In every other country of this planet anyone who open wholes in the public roads are considered as Criminals or Thugs and the state is ready to deal with them one way or another.The same will happen to you if you dont respect the ruleif law.You think you still live in yugoslavia and you are allowed to do whatever your wish but no this is the end you will have to lern how to respect the others one way or another.

Lenard

pre 12 godina

Several hundreds of Serbs have gathered at the barricades in the Ibarski Kolašin region, including mayors of Serb towns, priests and local monks. What yokel entertainment I'm surprised some local entrepreneur hasn't set some chairs close by selling chevapchichi with butter milk giving running commentaries to the greatest show on earth. Definitely could be entertaining tourist traction I'm sure Ataman would be the fist to go and see it.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

Ultimately, it would have been better for them to have recognized Croatia and not been driven out. I fear the the same fate awaits the Serbs North of Kosovo.
(adriatik, 21 October 2011 10:53)

So you support driving out - ethnic cleansing that - is of unloyal population as a way of ethnic conflict solution. So why do you complain about Milosevic's actions?

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

as for the radicalization of albanians, in all movements you have factions. 8 years albanians pursued passive resistance. 8 years they were ignored. they were stripped of most rights, kicked out of universities and a period of police state followed.
(adriatik)

So your main point is that "our Albanian plight in Kosovo is/was a real plight, while Serbian plight in Kosovo throughout centuries is pure Serbian propaganda."

Yet Another J S

pre 12 godina

There are those that comment on how few People who happen to be Serbs are up there in the North of Kosovo.

The important thing for People, even some Albanians and KFOR and EULUX People to understand is that every Human Being is important to those who have not disqualified themselves as being Human Beings, and who have disqualified themselves worthy of some Rights.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

Ultimately, it would have been better for them to have recognized Croatia and not been driven out.
(adriatik)

They did recognize Croatia, just declared their own independency from Croatia.

to Denis

pre 12 godina

strange, russian name u have got? but, overbreeding like albos do is nothing to be proud of - humans plan family animals do not but act by instincts. after all, what will u do in this overpopulated world if u already now are not able to have normal life for every albanian? the answer is - criminal activities and that u r famous all over the world. but as Tao says - The soft overcomes the hard; and the weak the strong and Hence he who (relies on) the strength of his forces does not
conquer; and a tree which is strong will fill the out-stretched arms,
(and thereby invites the feller.) So albanians - y have always thought u r the best and strong but u can`t eventually escape The Justice!

to Uli

pre 12 godina

as exKFOR and a foreigner I `ve got an impression that Kosovo belongs to Serbs because every historical monument tells that to me. Indeed,there are some Turkish muslim occupiers building - or they wanted to leave their imprint - that demonstrate historical injustice and violence they brought. albanians are secretly perfroming what where turks left off...
Balkans would be much better place if albanians introduced once again Hoxha`s policy. I have been around and all those serbo-croatian speakers eventually (of course they may grab for each others throats next moment, but afterwards have no clue what was the reason) can get along but noone wants "illryans" - they were never invited to exYugo or Balkan recreation events - so , it is time to look in the mirror.
as Kosovo’s first ombudsman Marek Antoni Nowicki commented on things in KiM “One thing is clear: a lot of things need to change, both on the part of the international mission here as well as on the part of local Kosovo leaders, the local government and, most of all, the Albanian community.

uli

pre 12 godina

I feel tired and sick of some people here that still claim Kosovo Serbian land. It is not and never was your land. That is Albanian land and belong to the people of Kosova. There is no more Yugoslavia, wake up. Sooner you realize it better will be for you. No one wants to put up with your non sence anymore. If albanians of Preseva would have acted like you are acting in northern Kosovo, you would have killed them all by now. You dont own Kosovo Kosovo belong to the people of Kosovo. Kosovo belong to Albanians and some serbs that live there.

trizo

pre 12 godina

@ aaayy

These guys contradict themselves and have double standards.. the only argument they have got is about establishing 'law & order' and they only say that because they hear it from the heads in Pristina.

We have the strongest history & the most years in control of Kosovo and that is undeniable (unless of course you're getting empirical evidence from a K.Albanian scholar).

The borders were taken from us and put into international hands for their own agendas but this cannot & will not remain like this for too long. More countries do NOT recognise KosovA.

The only reason that we are in this current situation is because America have the military power otherwise it would be a different situation altogether. The Americans have not earned this power but profited from less fortunate & exploited people all over the world.

No other country has interfered in so many other countries' business like America has and they cannot keep this up forever.

Even a lot of Americans hate their country and the image America has because of all the greed & hunger for power that their government has.

They even put people in jail so easily to exploit cheap labour and are privatising many of their prisons so they can make profit from locking people up! There are 7 million Americans who are either in jail or on probation!!!

I've been all over the world to every continent except Africa & Americans are not popular at all. We all know there are good American people but a good government/justice system/geopolitical objectives etc? That's a different story.

I'm sorry to say kalbs but it is only a matter of years until things change and only then you'll look back and wish you'd been able to stand on your own two feet and make your own decisions instead of being moved like a puppet on strings.

We will be back to our holy land ;) mark my words.

icj1

pre 12 godina

Unfortunately, the media control is strong in the US. Although we supposedly have freedom of speech, publishers will only publish what they want, and over the past two decades, much hasn't been published that's pro Serb, with the exception of tennis stuff.
(Daniel, 21 October 2011 12:36)

Oh, thanks for letting us know... From today I'll start following the free and independent Xinhua News Agency.

Now, somebody may ask how do I know that Xinhua is free and independent ? Simple... because they have published pro-Serb news. From now onwards, the standard of measuring whether a media is controlled or not is whether they publish or not pro-Serb news (regardless what the facts are).

icj1

pre 12 godina

I am glad the cameras are catching these foreign occupation forces and their brutal actions agains peacefull demonstrators.
(Dragan, 21 October 2011 14:14)

The UNSC's forces are foreign occupation forces ?!

The UNSC's forces use brutal actions agains peacefull demonstrators ?!

These foreigners need be reminded that they are on sovereign Serbian soil, and are not welcome in Serbia.
(Dragan, 21 October 2011 14:14)

I'm sorry, but you have to tell that to Russia, China and the others in the UNSC who have sent them there... What Serbia thinks is not relevant. It is the UNSC which decides.

They will go home with their tails between their legs eventually, it's only a matter of time.
(Dragan, 21 October 2011 14:14)

Sure, we soon as 1244 is repealed which is not going to happen any time soon.

to Denis2

pre 12 godina

r u feeding their children? yes, civilized or be more precise - naive - people unfortunately do feed albos, and in a long run, through that shooting in their own foot. what about aid during Yugo, and now by EU@US, So pls, albos stop this God gives to us children nonsense - in this case, Insh`Allah, he took them away while commiting crimes against KiM minorities in 1998-99. Right!?

Zoran

pre 12 godina

KFOR troops are still located around 150 meters from the barricades that Serbs set up in the village of Zupče and they still have not tried to remove them.
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Well done to the Serbs! I read last night on a few Western media outlets that NATO had successfully removed the barricade but that is obviously a lie.

Now I can't see how NATO can win this without resorting to violence and shooting people, however, the cameras are ready to spread this around the world. When the fire comes, it is all over for NATO and Albanians. They will then realise that negotiations really were the best option.

In the mean time, my sources tell me that the alternative routes for passage between Central Serbia and KiM are working just fine. NATO have no access to close them now. Too bad NATO and too bad Thaci, this is the bone that gets stuck in your throat. Albanians in the end will pay for it.

Some points to note. This has strengthened the opposition, the current sellout government has little control over events, EU membership support has fallen dramatically, NATO support is practically non-existent. It looks like this event has finally woken up Serbians while Russia and China are finally ready to provide concrete support. After allowing crippling sanctions on Serbia, it is about time.

adriatik

pre 12 godina

No media outlet has stated that all the barricades have been removed. However, the Serbs have been pushed back. This has the makings of another Krajina. The Serbs there were mobilized, defended their ancient home et etc. Ultimately, it would have been better for them to have recognized Croatia and not been driven out. I fear the the same fate awaits the Serbs North of Kosovo.

ben

pre 12 godina

Too much attention and energy wasted for 60,000 Serbians in north Kosova. They make only a small town or a small street in a metropolitan area.

These guys constitute less than 3% of the Kosova's population and want to grab 20% of the land.

The other part of the 3-4% of the Serbs south of Ibar have land that goes up to 15-18% of the entire territory of Kosova and still cry that they are persecuted.

Serbs in Kosova who make abot 6-7% of the population possess land that goes to above 35% of the entire Kosova’s territory.

1 Kosovar Serb has 5 times more land than 1 Kosovar Albanian- and they still cry to have been ripped off- it is simply unbelievable
Each Serb including Serbia proper has over 3 times more land than one Kosovar Albanian. And still cry that they have been robbed.

PEN

pre 12 godina

FROM FERIZAJ- You mean from Urosevac, not the name you made up once you stole the territory from its rightful holders. Perhaps you should consider joining your friends KFOR on the frontline. But no, wait a minute. You usually let them do the dirty work for you, then move in behind to mop up the pensioners and children, and then steal their land.

Daniel

pre 12 godina

I cannot imagine NATO soldiers massacring Serbian civilians over this issue. If they do, the media will be there to see so the whole world will know. Unfortunately, the media control is strong in the US. Although we supposedly have freedom of speech, publishers will only publish what they want, and over the past two decades, much hasn't been published that's pro Serb, with the exception of tennis stuff. The Washington Post hasn't even taken time to have its own reporters publish anything about the barricades; it relies on the Associated Press. How I wish I could be there with you to stand against these troops, and I'm only half Serb. I am with you in spirit though and will continue to push your cause here in the US.
Much love and stay strong Serbs of Kosovo.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

1 Kosovar Serb has 5 times more land than 1 Kosovar Albanian- and they still cry to have been ripped off- it is simply unbelievable
(ben, 21 October 2011 12:50)
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LOL! ben, you are funny. That's what happens when poor impoverished Albanians have 7 children and live on top of each other. It is a shame that children are brought up as commodities in this land grab exercise instead of learning to love.

Wally

pre 12 godina

Adriatik-fear or hope. The latter i imagine. Are you suggesting the Kabs will ethnically cleanse the remaining Serbs as the Croats did. Talk about inciting war. Listen, if Serbia can be carved up, so can Kosovo. End of. Believe me, we are going nowhere, The hoax will be revealed. Thanks for the invitation btw. Wouldn't mind at all, you seem like a decent chap. Wouldn't know how to make it happen though. Cheers!

Blero

pre 12 godina

@Srboslav ! In every other country of this planet anyone who open wholes in the public roads are considered as Criminals or Thugs and the state is ready to deal with them one way or another.The same will happen to you if you dont respect the ruleif law.You think you still live in yugoslavia and you are allowed to do whatever your wish but no this is the end you will have to lern how to respect the others one way or another.

Denis

pre 12 godina

LOL! ben, you are funny. That's what happens when poor impoverished Albanians have 7 children and live on top of each other. It is a shame that children are brought up as commodities in this land grab exercise instead of learning to love.
ZORAN

Are you feeding their children? For sure not. What land grabbing exercise, didn't you steal that land in 1912 with the backing of Russia, and kept it for one century through brutal force and persecution?

I think it is a blessing to have as many children as you can, and use the tools that God gave you, rather than vegetate or being a sterile, eunuk society getting older and older by the day. Just as a reminder, Serbia's population is one of the fastest declining ones in the world.

Srboljub

pre 12 godina

ben-look at the direction population and ownership is heading. Dramatically down. Just look what happened to the guy in Pec who wouldnt sell his land. Covert ethnic cleansing. This has been going on for ages. Before the war we were easily 15%. We can use that number.

Dragan

pre 12 godina

I am glad the cameras are catching these foreign occupation forces and their brutal actions agains peacefull demonstrators. The more they show their brute force aggression and what they are all about, the sooner the Serbian army will be back there to protect their citizens.
These foreigners need be reminded that they are on sovereign Serbian soil, and are not welcome in Serbia. They will go home with their tails between their legs eventually, it's only a matter of time. Keep up the resistance, all of Serbia is proud of you!
Cheers!!

Srboslav

pre 12 godina

O trust me, they will remove all of them, just a matter of time.
(FROM FERIZAJ, 21 October 2011 09:32)

Sure, and new ones will be built :-) Holes will be put in the roads as next step, what will KFOR do then? fix the roads and put new asphalt on them also? SOunds like a great deal to me!

Lenard

pre 12 godina

Several hundreds of Serbs have gathered at the barricades in the Ibarski Kolašin region, including mayors of Serb towns, priests and local monks. What yokel entertainment I'm surprised some local entrepreneur hasn't set some chairs close by selling chevapchichi with butter milk giving running commentaries to the greatest show on earth. Definitely could be entertaining tourist traction I'm sure Ataman would be the fist to go and see it.

adriatik

pre 12 godina

Wally

Not for a moment am I insinuating ethnic cleansing. What I am saying is that its better for Kosovoar Serbs to remain where they are, as it would have been for the Serbs of Krajina.

p.s. there's a very nice cafe on Berwick Street, Soho called Foxcroft & Ginger. if you want to meet up, let me know. my treat

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

Ultimately, it would have been better for them to have recognized Croatia and not been driven out.
(adriatik)

They did recognize Croatia, just declared their own independency from Croatia.

Yet Another J S

pre 12 godina

There are those that comment on how few People who happen to be Serbs are up there in the North of Kosovo.

The important thing for People, even some Albanians and KFOR and EULUX People to understand is that every Human Being is important to those who have not disqualified themselves as being Human Beings, and who have disqualified themselves worthy of some Rights.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

Are you feeding their children? For sure not. What land grabbing exercise, didn't you steal that land in 1912 with the backing of Russia, and kept it for one century through brutal force and persecution?
(Denis, 21 October 2011 15:38)
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Actually Denis, having children is not just about feeding them. I know this may come and a surprise but children need love and guidance, which is something I see all of the time in Serbia. Children are idolised and cherished. When I compare that to Albanian children, throwing rocks at buses, desecrating graves and abusing elderly Serbians I can only assume they have been brought up with hate.

I see Albanians coming here daily spitting at Serbians but I don't think you hate us. Actually I really believe you hate yourselves. We can be proud of having world famous sportsmen/women and intellects. Serbia is deemed a safe country relative to world standards and the hospitality here is world class. If you like having as many children as possible and raising them with hate, what you end up with is a backward region full of crime with people always blaming others for their own misfortunes.

As for ben's comments. Just scratch the surface and what he is promoting is further ethnic cleansing. He claims KiM has 95% Albanians so Serbians should move out and give their land to them. You see, according to his logic, India and China should now demand close to half of the world's land since they almost represent half the world's population.

Finally, I really don't understand how we have occupied KiM for a century when we have centuries old sites spread all around the province. Your nomadic tribe, which originated from Turkey, has nothing to show for it.

to Denis

pre 12 godina

strange, russian name u have got? but, overbreeding like albos do is nothing to be proud of - humans plan family animals do not but act by instincts. after all, what will u do in this overpopulated world if u already now are not able to have normal life for every albanian? the answer is - criminal activities and that u r famous all over the world. but as Tao says - The soft overcomes the hard; and the weak the strong and Hence he who (relies on) the strength of his forces does not
conquer; and a tree which is strong will fill the out-stretched arms,
(and thereby invites the feller.) So albanians - y have always thought u r the best and strong but u can`t eventually escape The Justice!

icj1

pre 12 godina

I am glad the cameras are catching these foreign occupation forces and their brutal actions agains peacefull demonstrators.
(Dragan, 21 October 2011 14:14)

The UNSC's forces are foreign occupation forces ?!

The UNSC's forces use brutal actions agains peacefull demonstrators ?!

These foreigners need be reminded that they are on sovereign Serbian soil, and are not welcome in Serbia.
(Dragan, 21 October 2011 14:14)

I'm sorry, but you have to tell that to Russia, China and the others in the UNSC who have sent them there... What Serbia thinks is not relevant. It is the UNSC which decides.

They will go home with their tails between their legs eventually, it's only a matter of time.
(Dragan, 21 October 2011 14:14)

Sure, we soon as 1244 is repealed which is not going to happen any time soon.

uli

pre 12 godina

I feel tired and sick of some people here that still claim Kosovo Serbian land. It is not and never was your land. That is Albanian land and belong to the people of Kosova. There is no more Yugoslavia, wake up. Sooner you realize it better will be for you. No one wants to put up with your non sence anymore. If albanians of Preseva would have acted like you are acting in northern Kosovo, you would have killed them all by now. You dont own Kosovo Kosovo belong to the people of Kosovo. Kosovo belong to Albanians and some serbs that live there.

Wally

pre 12 godina

Adriatik-They were forcibly cleansed from Krajina. They didn't have a choice. I'm not talking about Martic etc, i'm talking about innocent grannies and old men and children. Even now they can't return from fear of violence. Going away for a couple of weeks, maybe on my return. Will keep posting though, i am sure you will be happy to hear!!

to Uli

pre 12 godina

as exKFOR and a foreigner I `ve got an impression that Kosovo belongs to Serbs because every historical monument tells that to me. Indeed,there are some Turkish muslim occupiers building - or they wanted to leave their imprint - that demonstrate historical injustice and violence they brought. albanians are secretly perfroming what where turks left off...
Balkans would be much better place if albanians introduced once again Hoxha`s policy. I have been around and all those serbo-croatian speakers eventually (of course they may grab for each others throats next moment, but afterwards have no clue what was the reason) can get along but noone wants "illryans" - they were never invited to exYugo or Balkan recreation events - so , it is time to look in the mirror.
as Kosovo’s first ombudsman Marek Antoni Nowicki commented on things in KiM “One thing is clear: a lot of things need to change, both on the part of the international mission here as well as on the part of local Kosovo leaders, the local government and, most of all, the Albanian community.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

Ultimately, it would have been better for them to have recognized Croatia and not been driven out. I fear the the same fate awaits the Serbs North of Kosovo.
(adriatik, 21 October 2011 10:53)

So you support driving out - ethnic cleansing that - is of unloyal population as a way of ethnic conflict solution. So why do you complain about Milosevic's actions?

icj1

pre 12 godina

Unfortunately, the media control is strong in the US. Although we supposedly have freedom of speech, publishers will only publish what they want, and over the past two decades, much hasn't been published that's pro Serb, with the exception of tennis stuff.
(Daniel, 21 October 2011 12:36)

Oh, thanks for letting us know... From today I'll start following the free and independent Xinhua News Agency.

Now, somebody may ask how do I know that Xinhua is free and independent ? Simple... because they have published pro-Serb news. From now onwards, the standard of measuring whether a media is controlled or not is whether they publish or not pro-Serb news (regardless what the facts are).

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

as for the radicalization of albanians, in all movements you have factions. 8 years albanians pursued passive resistance. 8 years they were ignored. they were stripped of most rights, kicked out of universities and a period of police state followed.
(adriatik)

So your main point is that "our Albanian plight in Kosovo is/was a real plight, while Serbian plight in Kosovo throughout centuries is pure Serbian propaganda."

trizo

pre 12 godina

@ aaayy

These guys contradict themselves and have double standards.. the only argument they have got is about establishing 'law & order' and they only say that because they hear it from the heads in Pristina.

We have the strongest history & the most years in control of Kosovo and that is undeniable (unless of course you're getting empirical evidence from a K.Albanian scholar).

The borders were taken from us and put into international hands for their own agendas but this cannot & will not remain like this for too long. More countries do NOT recognise KosovA.

The only reason that we are in this current situation is because America have the military power otherwise it would be a different situation altogether. The Americans have not earned this power but profited from less fortunate & exploited people all over the world.

No other country has interfered in so many other countries' business like America has and they cannot keep this up forever.

Even a lot of Americans hate their country and the image America has because of all the greed & hunger for power that their government has.

They even put people in jail so easily to exploit cheap labour and are privatising many of their prisons so they can make profit from locking people up! There are 7 million Americans who are either in jail or on probation!!!

I've been all over the world to every continent except Africa & Americans are not popular at all. We all know there are good American people but a good government/justice system/geopolitical objectives etc? That's a different story.

I'm sorry to say kalbs but it is only a matter of years until things change and only then you'll look back and wish you'd been able to stand on your own two feet and make your own decisions instead of being moved like a puppet on strings.

We will be back to our holy land ;) mark my words.

to Denis2

pre 12 godina

r u feeding their children? yes, civilized or be more precise - naive - people unfortunately do feed albos, and in a long run, through that shooting in their own foot. what about aid during Yugo, and now by EU@US, So pls, albos stop this God gives to us children nonsense - in this case, Insh`Allah, he took them away while commiting crimes against KiM minorities in 1998-99. Right!?