Moammar Gaddafi "dies of wounds after arrest"

You should worry about your own country of Greece. You spent more money than what you had in your pocket, and now you are burning what you forefathers built.Clean your own backyard first before you jump to your neighboring countries. By the way, don't you know that Greece despite the fact that did not recognize Kosova, it does recognize Kosova passport and RKS license plates. I can drive to Greece with Kosova plates with no problem.
(Agim Kelmendi, 20 October 2011 16:56)

Well you must be very happy that kosovar passport is accapted in Greece.I bet you are one of many albanian beggars found in the area between Omonia square and Monastiraki waiting for eurocents given by tourists and now you turned a bit worried that in future you maybe paid in drahma instead of euro.And indeed the greek are in big troble they really overspent themselves.This cannot happüen to albanians who do not buy german cars but steal them.As a part of rebuilding their econmy the greek should send back albanian beggars and criminals to their country .one of the reasons of overspending is that they have to cover the cost of predominanly albanian criminals sitting in their prisons and the demage caused by criminals also bears high costs.

WAR CRIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is a shame. He should have been tried for his crimes first.
(Ian, UK, 20 October 2011, 14:45)

If he did so should Jalil-the rebels leader- and so should Cameron and Sarkozi for the deaths of thousand of Libyan civilians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_2011_Libyan_civil_war

While I'm no major Gaddafi supporter, lets look at the facts. Prior to this 'uprising', Libya was a country with immense infrastructure, free health care, and free education provided by the government. Now after months of NATO-led bombing campaigns and the destruction caused by the 'freedom-fighting-rebels' armed with U.S. military weaponry, Libya is a wasteland of rubble. Are the citizens of Libya better today than they were a year ago?

Sure they now have 'freedom' but perhaps in just a philosophical sense - in reality, individuals have little to no freedom...unless they're wielding a sub machine gun on top of their pile of junk.

Just my 2 cents.

Nooo, not brother Ghaddafi.
I'm sorry for your loss Serbia.

So you're stuck for words then?
(Ian, UK, 20 October 2011 19:36)

If you haven't noticed the article is about Gaddafi's death and not about Greece or Kosovo.

I am in no doubt that smirking Cameron and his warmongering supporters like yourself are happy now.The ex-Gaddafi men that are the rebels leaders are not better than Gaddafi.They probably killed Gaddafi in order to shut him once and for all thus stopping him from revealing his dealings with Western Leaders like Blair and Hague when they were kissing Gaddafi’s arse in order to get oil contracts- screw Lockberie and Yvonne Fletcher.If the future of Libya is in the hands of the barbarians dragging corpses through the streets then Libya has no future.

This link might help the US back its push for 'democracy' cough capitalism cough in Libya.

RIP Gaddafi, they only had a problem with you in the 42nd year of your reign

If he did so should Jalil-the rebels leader- and so should Cameron and Sarkozi for the deaths of thousand of Libyan civilians.
[link]
(Leonidas, 20 October 2011 14:58)

You should worry about your own country of Greece. You spent more money than what you had in your pocket, and now you are burning what you forefathers built.Clean your own backyard first before you jump to your neighboring countries. By the way, don't you know that Greece despite the fact that did not recognize Kosova, it does recognize Kosova passport and RKS license plates. I can drive to Greece with Kosova plates with no problem.

You should worry about your own country of Greece. You spent more money than what you had in your pocket, and now you are burning what you forefathers built.Clean your own backyard first before you jump to your neighboring countries. By the way, don't you know that Greece despite the fact that did not recognize Kosova, it does recognize Kosova passport and RKS license plates. I can drive to Greece with Kosova plates with no problem.
(Agim Kelmendi, 20 October 2011 16:56)

I would love to give an answer to an informed comment but not to an idiotic one.

Today we should remember all those who died as a result of Gaddafi.
(Ian, UK, 20 October 2011 19:33)

Do you really want to play that game? Should I start gathering the details on the 'innocent' Brits, Americans and French? Yeah and don't get me started on Israel either.

http://viableopposition.blogspot.com/2011/02/muammars-oil-libyas-contribution-to.html

Sorry firefox is a little button happy

RIP Gaddafi, they only had a problem with you in the 42nd year of your reign
(Goran., 20 October 2011 15:23)

Really??? You are very ignorant on pre-2011 relations with the Gadaffi regime.

What about Gaddafi praising the Lod Airport massacre in May 1972?

What about Libya burning down the US embassy in Tripoli in December 1979?

What about Gaddafi praising the assassination of Anwar Sadat in October 1981?

How about Libyan diplomats shooting 11 civilians and murdering police woman Yvonne Fletcher from inside the Libyan Embassy in London on the 17th April 1984?

What about Gaddafi supporting the Rome and Vienna airport attacks in December 1985?

How about Pan Am Flight 103 aka the Lockerbie bombing where the Gaddafi regime was responsible for the deaths of 270 civilians (43 Brits)?

How about the 1986 Berlin discotheque bombing where 229 people were injured and 3 were killed?

How about in 1986 when Libyan state television announced that Libya was training suicide squads to attack American and European interests?

How about Gaddafi's brother-in-law Abdullah Senussi bombing French aeroplane UTA Flight 772 in which 170 civilians lost their lives?

How about all the 'donations' the Gaddafi regime gave to the IRA? In one single shipment from Libya to the IRA there was 20 tonnes of weapons, including HMGs, 36 RPGs, 1000 detonators, 20 SAMs, Semtex, 1,000,000 rounds of ammunition and £2 million cash. And this is just ONE of the many shipments of arms Gadaffi sent to these terrorists, which resulted in the deaths of thousands of British civilians.

How about Gaddafi declaring a Jihad on Switzerland because of the Swiss ban on minarets?

How about Gaddafi's son claiming that he would "wipe Switzerland off the map" all because he was arrested for attacking and causing bodily harm to hotel staff in Switzerland?

How about the 35th G8 summit when Gaddafi publicly called for the dissolution of Switzerland, its territory to be divided among France, Italy and Germany?

I'm not going to even bother mentioning Israel.

You still think the West didn't have a problem with the Gaddafi regime until 2011?

Today we should remember all those who died as a result of Gaddafi.

Well you must be very happy that kosovar passport is accapted in Greece.I bet you are one of many albanian beggars found in the area between Omonia square and Monastiraki waiting for eurocents given by tourists and now you turned a bit worried that in future you maybe paid in drahma instead of euro.And indeed the greek are in big troble they really overspent themselves.This cannot happüen to albanians who do not buy german cars but steal them.As a part of rebuilding their econmy the greek should send back albanian beggars and criminals to their country .one of the reasons of overspending is that they have to cover the cost of predominanly albanian criminals sitting in their prisons and the demage caused by criminals also bears high costs.
(szemi, 20 October 2011 18:37)

Kosovo passports aren't recognised by Greece.We don't have an embassy and without an embassy Albanians cannot get visas for Greece.Only last month the Greek foreign minister repeated again that the position of Greece regarding Kosovo will not change.

However,one Albanian practice that has been noticed recently by Greek immigration officers is that a lot of Asian illegal immigrants in Greece are carrying Albanian passports which gives them the right to move to Europe freely.I think some Albanian government officials are making some serious money.

Roberto,

Where is your outrage at this execution? To be frank, you come across as a total tool and complete hypocrite. Everyone has a right to fair trial and not be summarily executed, even guys like Gadaffi. You talk all this smack about human rights and fairness but only if it serves some particular side you support. It is obvious that at the end of the day you are just a bigot.

You have outed yourself, amigo.

This is a shame. He should have been tried for his crimes first.

I would love to give an answer to an informed comment but not to an idiotic one.
(Leonidas, 20 October 2011 17:36)

So you're stuck for words then?

Rest in peace !

(Leonidas, 20 October 2011 20:43)

Nah I think you'll find that oil companies such as Shell and BP will get back to drilling in Libya now that this "temporary disruption" is now over.

I'm no warmonger, I think it is a shame that it ended in civil war. I think it would have been better if Gaddafi had listened to the will of his people and just stood down. But his stubbornness has ended in his death and I cannot say I'm sorry or saddened. The Civil War started because he refused to give up power.

Had Gaddafi blown up a Greek plane your entire mentality and position would be the complete opposite because that is how hypocrites like you work. But because his victims were British, American, French, Chadian and Libyan you don't care and just like to criticise the west because Greeks weren't victimised. But had Gaddafi had killed a hand full of Greeks he'd be the worlds most evil man in the world according to you. You'd be the first to complain!

At least we will now witness the first elections in Libya in over 40 years, even if their democracy is only up to Russian standards. Better than nowt!

Yes you say that Libyans are no better now than they were a year ago, but where will Libya be in ten years time compared to a year ago; that is what is important.

I still remember you saying that is clear that Gaddafi has defeated NATO, how wrong were you. Yes Gaddafi's body may have been dragged through the streets but he got off easy, he deserved nothing more.

Had Gaddafi blown up a Greek plane your entire mentality and position would be the complete opposite because that is how hypocrites like you work. But because his victims were British, American, French, Chadian and Libyan you don't care and just like to criticise the west because Greeks weren't victimised. But had Gaddafi had killed a hand full of Greeks he'd be the worlds most evil man in the world according to you. You'd be the first to complain!

At least we will now witness the first elections in Libya in over 40 years, even if their democracy is only up to Russian standards. Better than nowt!

Yes you say that Libyans are no better now than they were a year ago, but where will Libya be in ten years time compared to a year ago; that is what is important.

I still remember you saying that is clear that Gaddafi has defeated NATO, how wrong were you. Yes Gaddafi's body may have been dragged through the streets but he got off easy, he deserved nothing more.
(Ian, UK, 20 October 2011 22:56)

On the contrary the hypocrites are the British politicians and their supporters like yourself.My jibe wasn't against the people who died in Lockberie but against the double-faced politicians who did sacrifice any principle and any morality in the pursuit of the black stuff called oil.Back in 2004 when war criminal Blair met Gaddafi in his tent he was eulogising Gaddafi for his successes against Al Qaeda and he proposed to him to fight terrorism together.At the same time Blair secured contracts for British oil companies worth £1 billion.So much for the Lockberie victims.

Now if you think that Libya will revert to democracy you're clearly deluded. Democracy needs traditions,culture and institutions to be implemented whereas Libya is a tribal society.Furthermore,what makes you think that Gaddafi's ex-ministers and the Islamists that make up the rebels council want Western style democracy?They've already said they want to establish a moderate Islamic country.Whether Libya remains a moderate Islamic country remains to be seen.

Now it's pretty clear the worst scenario for the West and its leaders would've been the arrest of Gaddafi. Wounded in both legs, and shot in the head, he couldn't have run away too far.So why killed?

Well had he been brought to trial, his close contacts with Western government leaders, banks and businesses would've have revealed the extent to which the people of Libya and the citizens of the West have been betrayed by their leaders - yet again - in pursuit of riches for the elites.Thousands of Libyans have been killed, or wounded. The majority will have been innocent victims caught on the wrong side of the fence.Simply Obama,Cameron and Sarkozy are not better than Gaddafi.At least Gaddafi had the balls and fought until the end and didn't take the easy option given to him and his family-exile.

Coll.Gadaffi,thank you for making albanians dance for recognotion and thank you for calling them nato poodles..we will never forget your goodness to serbian people..

RIP Gaddafi, they only had a problem with you in the 42nd year of your reign
(Goran., 20 October 2011 15:23)

Yes, may he rest in peace together with his brothers in mind Stalin, Saddam Hussein, Mobuto and similar self-proclaimed all-time generals and dictators.

Well, this is what gedafi wanted afterall. Either opress the rebels or die. And the rebels satisfied his will.

-Gaddafi was in power for over four decades.-

He's finally gone, but how many had to die for us to see this moment of liberation. the story is always the same, just the names and details change.

i have absolutely no sympathy for him, he was an evil mass-murderer. but i have a great deal of sympathy for all who had to suffer and die to make this day possible. may they rest in peace.

sad, another who escaped trial, escaped justice...

somehow, it shouldn't surprise me to hear so much sympathy and "brotherhood" from the usual suspects here. Hey, if you love gadaffi, you'll really love present day iran, N korea, syria, belarus etc. Hint hint.

cheers to the allies and the people of libya. tempered with the knowledge of so much wasted life and carnage.

ciao! roberto frisco

Coll.Gadaffi,thank you for making albanians dance for recognotion and thank you for calling them nato poodles..we will never forget your goodness to serbian people..
(lids, 21 October 2011 04:38)

Do you ever ask youselves how it comes you Serbs always end up with head frinds as Gdaffi; Sadam, Ben Ali, Mubarak and so one??? And why all the new Govt of these countries have exclicitly made clear that they will recognize Kosova??? it doesn't ring your bell, does it?? :)

@Roberto.

@sad, another who escaped trial, escaped justice...
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He escaped trial? have you seen the videos, 1st one shows him captured by rebels, wounded, but alive, second shows him dead with a fresh bullet in his head.
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@somehow, it shouldn't surprise me to hear so much sympathy and "brotherhood" from the usual suspects here. Hey, if you love gadaffi, you'll really love present day iran, N korea, syria, belarus etc. Hint hint.
ciao! roberto frisco
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Are you referring to present day Kosovo?

Where's the "rock solid" proof that Gadaffi is now deceased? If he's been slain and if it's proven that he was a murderous tyrant or despotic ruler than I say good riddance to bad rubbish (Gadaffi of course.)

Gadaffi was executed. The guy who found him said he told them 'not to shoot' and 'what have I done against you'. Hardly the words of a heavily injured man. It's much too early to know what kind, if any blowback, there will be. 10,000 SAMs are still missing. If even one airliner comes down over Europe it will turn very nasty for european politicians very quickly.

Belgium has recorded and 'exponential increase in asylum seekers from Albania' this last month (if I recall correctly, about 40 p/m to 240 p/m). One 22 y/o albanian man 'fell off' a eurostar high speed train when he was sent back to Belgian by British police yesterday, disrupting services for hours. How long is Belgium going to agree to Albania in Schengen if nothing changes?Albania still has a speedboat ban imposed by Brusels no? Albanians from Albanian can no longer .pretend to be fleeing persecution in Kosovo or claim to be 'Yugoslav'. Europe has got wise. As the police in any european country or just pop over to the EUROPOL website and inform yourself. There are no favors left and no fast track.

Do you really want to play that game? Should I start gathering the details on the 'innocent' Brits, Americans and French? Yeah and don't get me started on Israel either.
(Goran., 20 October 2011 22:00)

I'll be the first to admit that Blair and Bush are war criminals. Ideally I'd of liked to have seen Gaddafi, Blair and Bush all tried for war crimes amongst other crimes. But because Blair and Bush have unfortunately got away scot free doesn't mean Gaddafi should too.

While I'm no major Gaddafi supporter, lets look at the facts. Prior to this 'uprising', Libya was a country with immense infrastructure, free health care, and free education provided by the government. Now after months of NATO-led bombing campaigns and the destruction caused by the 'freedom-fighting-rebels' armed with U.S. military weaponry, Libya is a wasteland of rubble. Are the citizens of Libya better today than they were a year ago?

Sure they now have 'freedom' but perhaps in just a philosophical sense - in reality, individuals have little to no freedom...unless they're wielding a sub machine gun on top of their pile of junk.
(Maso, 20 October 2011 15:35)

Slaves in the Roman Empire were even better; they even had free housing and free food - their owner fed and housed them

Now after months of NATO-led bombing campaigns and the destruction caused by the 'freedom-fighting-rebels' armed with U.S. military weaponry.

You are so right!! I remember seeing news reports with the rebels using all those AK-47's( U.S. made) RPGS(U.S. made) and Russian tanks(U.S. made). Do you think no one else sees news report from Libya and what weapons they have? Save time and just put "I hate America,NATO and anybody else that isnt like me".

Englebert wrote: "Everyone has a right to fair trial and not be summarily executed"

No. Not if they deny others that same right.

--
Jan Andersen (DK)
(Jan Andersen (DK), 21 October 2011 17:05)

So two wrongs make a right then? Interesting. And sad.

If he did so should Jalil-the rebels leader- and so should Cameron and Sarkozi for the deaths of thousand of Libyan civilians.
[link]
(Leonidas, 20 October 2011 14:58)

Dude, if the Libyans are not asking that, there is no need for you to be more Libyan than the Libyans...

Do you ever ask youselves how it comes you Serbs always end up with head frinds as Gdaffi; Sadam, Ben Ali, Mubarak and so one??? And why all the new Govt of these countries have exclicitly made clear that they will recognize Kosova??? it doesn't ring your bell, does it?? :)
(ben, 21 October 2011 13:03)

And you must be in 6th.grade not to know answer to that..
But point is even your so called friends hate you to the point of dropping you for dead..And Serbia never had to sell a gram of heroin to buy any friendship..get it kiddo..???

Englebert wrote: "Everyone has a right to fair trial and not be summarily executed"

No. Not if they deny others that same right.

--
Jan Andersen (DK)

Do you really want to play that game? Should I start gathering the details on the 'innocent' Brits, Americans and French? Yeah and don't get me started on Israel either.
(Goran., 20 October 2011 22:00)

Your right! What about the ancient Romans, Greeks, Vikings, Persians, Arabs, Serbs? What game are we playing? Name any nation that has ever gone to war or killed people of another race..

If he did so should Jalil-the rebels leader- and so should Cameron and Sarkozi for the deaths of thousand of Libyan civilians.
[link]
(Leonidas, 20 October 2011 14:58)

You should worry about your own country of Greece. You spent more money than what you had in your pocket, and now you are burning what you forefathers built.Clean your own backyard first before you jump to your neighboring countries. By the way, don't you know that Greece despite the fact that did not recognize Kosova, it does recognize Kosova passport and RKS license plates. I can drive to Greece with Kosova plates with no problem.

This is a shame. He should have been tried for his crimes first.

You should worry about your own country of Greece. You spent more money than what you had in your pocket, and now you are burning what you forefathers built.Clean your own backyard first before you jump to your neighboring countries. By the way, don't you know that Greece despite the fact that did not recognize Kosova, it does recognize Kosova passport and RKS license plates. I can drive to Greece with Kosova plates with no problem.
(Agim Kelmendi, 20 October 2011 16:56)

Well you must be very happy that kosovar passport is accapted in Greece.I bet you are one of many albanian beggars found in the area between Omonia square and Monastiraki waiting for eurocents given by tourists and now you turned a bit worried that in future you maybe paid in drahma instead of euro.And indeed the greek are in big troble they really overspent themselves.This cannot happüen to albanians who do not buy german cars but steal them.As a part of rebuilding their econmy the greek should send back albanian beggars and criminals to their country .one of the reasons of overspending is that they have to cover the cost of predominanly albanian criminals sitting in their prisons and the demage caused by criminals also bears high costs.

Nooo, not brother Ghaddafi.
I'm sorry for your loss Serbia.

RIP Gaddafi, they only had a problem with you in the 42nd year of your reign
(Goran., 20 October 2011 15:23)

Really??? You are very ignorant on pre-2011 relations with the Gadaffi regime.

What about Gaddafi praising the Lod Airport massacre in May 1972?

What about Libya burning down the US embassy in Tripoli in December 1979?

What about Gaddafi praising the assassination of Anwar Sadat in October 1981?

How about Libyan diplomats shooting 11 civilians and murdering police woman Yvonne Fletcher from inside the Libyan Embassy in London on the 17th April 1984?

What about Gaddafi supporting the Rome and Vienna airport attacks in December 1985?

How about Pan Am Flight 103 aka the Lockerbie bombing where the Gaddafi regime was responsible for the deaths of 270 civilians (43 Brits)?

How about the 1986 Berlin discotheque bombing where 229 people were injured and 3 were killed?

How about in 1986 when Libyan state television announced that Libya was training suicide squads to attack American and European interests?

How about Gaddafi's brother-in-law Abdullah Senussi bombing French aeroplane UTA Flight 772 in which 170 civilians lost their lives?

How about all the 'donations' the Gaddafi regime gave to the IRA? In one single shipment from Libya to the IRA there was 20 tonnes of weapons, including HMGs, 36 RPGs, 1000 detonators, 20 SAMs, Semtex, 1,000,000 rounds of ammunition and £2 million cash. And this is just ONE of the many shipments of arms Gadaffi sent to these terrorists, which resulted in the deaths of thousands of British civilians.

How about Gaddafi declaring a Jihad on Switzerland because of the Swiss ban on minarets?

How about Gaddafi's son claiming that he would "wipe Switzerland off the map" all because he was arrested for attacking and causing bodily harm to hotel staff in Switzerland?

How about the 35th G8 summit when Gaddafi publicly called for the dissolution of Switzerland, its territory to be divided among France, Italy and Germany?

I'm not going to even bother mentioning Israel.

You still think the West didn't have a problem with the Gaddafi regime until 2011?

Today we should remember all those who died as a result of Gaddafi.

This is a shame. He should have been tried for his crimes first.
(Ian, UK, 20 October 2011, 14:45)

If he did so should Jalil-the rebels leader- and so should Cameron and Sarkozi for the deaths of thousand of Libyan civilians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_2011_Libyan_civil_war

You should worry about your own country of Greece. You spent more money than what you had in your pocket, and now you are burning what you forefathers built.Clean your own backyard first before you jump to your neighboring countries. By the way, don't you know that Greece despite the fact that did not recognize Kosova, it does recognize Kosova passport and RKS license plates. I can drive to Greece with Kosova plates with no problem.
(Agim Kelmendi, 20 October 2011 16:56)

I would love to give an answer to an informed comment but not to an idiotic one.

This link might help the US back its push for 'democracy' cough capitalism cough in Libya.

RIP Gaddafi, they only had a problem with you in the 42nd year of your reign

Where's the "rock solid" proof that Gadaffi is now deceased? If he's been slain and if it's proven that he was a murderous tyrant or despotic ruler than I say good riddance to bad rubbish (Gadaffi of course.)

I would love to give an answer to an informed comment but not to an idiotic one.
(Leonidas, 20 October 2011 17:36)

So you're stuck for words then?

While I'm no major Gaddafi supporter, lets look at the facts. Prior to this 'uprising', Libya was a country with immense infrastructure, free health care, and free education provided by the government. Now after months of NATO-led bombing campaigns and the destruction caused by the 'freedom-fighting-rebels' armed with U.S. military weaponry, Libya is a wasteland of rubble. Are the citizens of Libya better today than they were a year ago?

Sure they now have 'freedom' but perhaps in just a philosophical sense - in reality, individuals have little to no freedom...unless they're wielding a sub machine gun on top of their pile of junk.

Just my 2 cents.

(Leonidas, 20 October 2011 20:43)

Nah I think you'll find that oil companies such as Shell and BP will get back to drilling in Libya now that this "temporary disruption" is now over.

I'm no warmonger, I think it is a shame that it ended in civil war. I think it would have been better if Gaddafi had listened to the will of his people and just stood down. But his stubbornness has ended in his death and I cannot say I'm sorry or saddened. The Civil War started because he refused to give up power.

Had Gaddafi blown up a Greek plane your entire mentality and position would be the complete opposite because that is how hypocrites like you work. But because his victims were British, American, French, Chadian and Libyan you don't care and just like to criticise the west because Greeks weren't victimised. But had Gaddafi had killed a hand full of Greeks he'd be the worlds most evil man in the world according to you. You'd be the first to complain!

At least we will now witness the first elections in Libya in over 40 years, even if their democracy is only up to Russian standards. Better than nowt!

Yes you say that Libyans are no better now than they were a year ago, but where will Libya be in ten years time compared to a year ago; that is what is important.

I still remember you saying that is clear that Gaddafi has defeated NATO, how wrong were you. Yes Gaddafi's body may have been dragged through the streets but he got off easy, he deserved nothing more.

WAR CRIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RIP Gaddafi, they only had a problem with you in the 42nd year of your reign
(Goran., 20 October 2011 15:23)

Yes, may he rest in peace together with his brothers in mind Stalin, Saddam Hussein, Mobuto and similar self-proclaimed all-time generals and dictators.

-Gaddafi was in power for over four decades.-

He's finally gone, but how many had to die for us to see this moment of liberation. the story is always the same, just the names and details change.

i have absolutely no sympathy for him, he was an evil mass-murderer. but i have a great deal of sympathy for all who had to suffer and die to make this day possible. may they rest in peace.

sad, another who escaped trial, escaped justice...

somehow, it shouldn't surprise me to hear so much sympathy and "brotherhood" from the usual suspects here. Hey, if you love gadaffi, you'll really love present day iran, N korea, syria, belarus etc. Hint hint.

cheers to the allies and the people of libya. tempered with the knowledge of so much wasted life and carnage.

ciao! roberto frisco

Today we should remember all those who died as a result of Gaddafi.
(Ian, UK, 20 October 2011 19:33)

Do you really want to play that game? Should I start gathering the details on the 'innocent' Brits, Americans and French? Yeah and don't get me started on Israel either.

Well you must be very happy that kosovar passport is accapted in Greece.I bet you are one of many albanian beggars found in the area between Omonia square and Monastiraki waiting for eurocents given by tourists and now you turned a bit worried that in future you maybe paid in drahma instead of euro.And indeed the greek are in big troble they really overspent themselves.This cannot happüen to albanians who do not buy german cars but steal them.As a part of rebuilding their econmy the greek should send back albanian beggars and criminals to their country .one of the reasons of overspending is that they have to cover the cost of predominanly albanian criminals sitting in their prisons and the demage caused by criminals also bears high costs.
(szemi, 20 October 2011 18:37)

Kosovo passports aren't recognised by Greece.We don't have an embassy and without an embassy Albanians cannot get visas for Greece.Only last month the Greek foreign minister repeated again that the position of Greece regarding Kosovo will not change.

However,one Albanian practice that has been noticed recently by Greek immigration officers is that a lot of Asian illegal immigrants in Greece are carrying Albanian passports which gives them the right to move to Europe freely.I think some Albanian government officials are making some serious money.

If he did so should Jalil-the rebels leader- and so should Cameron and Sarkozi for the deaths of thousand of Libyan civilians.
[link]
(Leonidas, 20 October 2011 14:58)

Dude, if the Libyans are not asking that, there is no need for you to be more Libyan than the Libyans...

While I'm no major Gaddafi supporter, lets look at the facts. Prior to this 'uprising', Libya was a country with immense infrastructure, free health care, and free education provided by the government. Now after months of NATO-led bombing campaigns and the destruction caused by the 'freedom-fighting-rebels' armed with U.S. military weaponry, Libya is a wasteland of rubble. Are the citizens of Libya better today than they were a year ago?

Sure they now have 'freedom' but perhaps in just a philosophical sense - in reality, individuals have little to no freedom...unless they're wielding a sub machine gun on top of their pile of junk.
(Maso, 20 October 2011 15:35)

Slaves in the Roman Empire were even better; they even had free housing and free food - their owner fed and housed them

So you're stuck for words then?
(Ian, UK, 20 October 2011 19:36)

If you haven't noticed the article is about Gaddafi's death and not about Greece or Kosovo.

I am in no doubt that smirking Cameron and his warmongering supporters like yourself are happy now.The ex-Gaddafi men that are the rebels leaders are not better than Gaddafi.They probably killed Gaddafi in order to shut him once and for all thus stopping him from revealing his dealings with Western Leaders like Blair and Hague when they were kissing Gaddafi’s arse in order to get oil contracts- screw Lockberie and Yvonne Fletcher.If the future of Libya is in the hands of the barbarians dragging corpses through the streets then Libya has no future.

Well, this is what gedafi wanted afterall. Either opress the rebels or die. And the rebels satisfied his will.

Englebert wrote: "Everyone has a right to fair trial and not be summarily executed"

No. Not if they deny others that same right.

--
Jan Andersen (DK)

Rest in peace !

Coll.Gadaffi,thank you for making albanians dance for recognotion and thank you for calling them nato poodles..we will never forget your goodness to serbian people..

Roberto,

Where is your outrage at this execution? To be frank, you come across as a total tool and complete hypocrite. Everyone has a right to fair trial and not be summarily executed, even guys like Gadaffi. You talk all this smack about human rights and fairness but only if it serves some particular side you support. It is obvious that at the end of the day you are just a bigot.

You have outed yourself, amigo.

Coll.Gadaffi,thank you for making albanians dance for recognotion and thank you for calling them nato poodles..we will never forget your goodness to serbian people..
(lids, 21 October 2011 04:38)

Do you ever ask youselves how it comes you Serbs always end up with head frinds as Gdaffi; Sadam, Ben Ali, Mubarak and so one??? And why all the new Govt of these countries have exclicitly made clear that they will recognize Kosova??? it doesn't ring your bell, does it?? :)

Do you ever ask youselves how it comes you Serbs always end up with head frinds as Gdaffi; Sadam, Ben Ali, Mubarak and so one??? And why all the new Govt of these countries have exclicitly made clear that they will recognize Kosova??? it doesn't ring your bell, does it?? :)
(ben, 21 October 2011 13:03)

And you must be in 6th.grade not to know answer to that..
But point is even your so called friends hate you to the point of dropping you for dead..And Serbia never had to sell a gram of heroin to buy any friendship..get it kiddo..???

@Roberto.

@sad, another who escaped trial, escaped justice...
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He escaped trial? have you seen the videos, 1st one shows him captured by rebels, wounded, but alive, second shows him dead with a fresh bullet in his head.
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@somehow, it shouldn't surprise me to hear so much sympathy and "brotherhood" from the usual suspects here. Hey, if you love gadaffi, you'll really love present day iran, N korea, syria, belarus etc. Hint hint.
ciao! roberto frisco
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Are you referring to present day Kosovo?

http://viableopposition.blogspot.com/2011/02/muammars-oil-libyas-contribution-to.html

Sorry firefox is a little button happy

Had Gaddafi blown up a Greek plane your entire mentality and position would be the complete opposite because that is how hypocrites like you work. But because his victims were British, American, French, Chadian and Libyan you don't care and just like to criticise the west because Greeks weren't victimised. But had Gaddafi had killed a hand full of Greeks he'd be the worlds most evil man in the world according to you. You'd be the first to complain!

At least we will now witness the first elections in Libya in over 40 years, even if their democracy is only up to Russian standards. Better than nowt!

Yes you say that Libyans are no better now than they were a year ago, but where will Libya be in ten years time compared to a year ago; that is what is important.

I still remember you saying that is clear that Gaddafi has defeated NATO, how wrong were you. Yes Gaddafi's body may have been dragged through the streets but he got off easy, he deserved nothing more.
(Ian, UK, 20 October 2011 22:56)

On the contrary the hypocrites are the British politicians and their supporters like yourself.My jibe wasn't against the people who died in Lockberie but against the double-faced politicians who did sacrifice any principle and any morality in the pursuit of the black stuff called oil.Back in 2004 when war criminal Blair met Gaddafi in his tent he was eulogising Gaddafi for his successes against Al Qaeda and he proposed to him to fight terrorism together.At the same time Blair secured contracts for British oil companies worth £1 billion.So much for the Lockberie victims.

Now if you think that Libya will revert to democracy you're clearly deluded. Democracy needs traditions,culture and institutions to be implemented whereas Libya is a tribal society.Furthermore,what makes you think that Gaddafi's ex-ministers and the Islamists that make up the rebels council want Western style democracy?They've already said they want to establish a moderate Islamic country.Whether Libya remains a moderate Islamic country remains to be seen.

Now it's pretty clear the worst scenario for the West and its leaders would've been the arrest of Gaddafi. Wounded in both legs, and shot in the head, he couldn't have run away too far.So why killed?

Well had he been brought to trial, his close contacts with Western government leaders, banks and businesses would've have revealed the extent to which the people of Libya and the citizens of the West have been betrayed by their leaders - yet again - in pursuit of riches for the elites.Thousands of Libyans have been killed, or wounded. The majority will have been innocent victims caught on the wrong side of the fence.Simply Obama,Cameron and Sarkozy are not better than Gaddafi.At least Gaddafi had the balls and fought until the end and didn't take the easy option given to him and his family-exile.

Gadaffi was executed. The guy who found him said he told them 'not to shoot' and 'what have I done against you'. Hardly the words of a heavily injured man. It's much too early to know what kind, if any blowback, there will be. 10,000 SAMs are still missing. If even one airliner comes down over Europe it will turn very nasty for european politicians very quickly.

Belgium has recorded and 'exponential increase in asylum seekers from Albania' this last month (if I recall correctly, about 40 p/m to 240 p/m). One 22 y/o albanian man 'fell off' a eurostar high speed train when he was sent back to Belgian by British police yesterday, disrupting services for hours. How long is Belgium going to agree to Albania in Schengen if nothing changes?Albania still has a speedboat ban imposed by Brusels no? Albanians from Albanian can no longer .pretend to be fleeing persecution in Kosovo or claim to be 'Yugoslav'. Europe has got wise. As the police in any european country or just pop over to the EUROPOL website and inform yourself. There are no favors left and no fast track.

Do you really want to play that game? Should I start gathering the details on the 'innocent' Brits, Americans and French? Yeah and don't get me started on Israel either.
(Goran., 20 October 2011 22:00)

I'll be the first to admit that Blair and Bush are war criminals. Ideally I'd of liked to have seen Gaddafi, Blair and Bush all tried for war crimes amongst other crimes. But because Blair and Bush have unfortunately got away scot free doesn't mean Gaddafi should too.

Englebert wrote: "Everyone has a right to fair trial and not be summarily executed"

No. Not if they deny others that same right.

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Jan Andersen (DK)
(Jan Andersen (DK), 21 October 2011 17:05)

So two wrongs make a right then? Interesting. And sad.

Now after months of NATO-led bombing campaigns and the destruction caused by the 'freedom-fighting-rebels' armed with U.S. military weaponry.

You are so right!! I remember seeing news reports with the rebels using all those AK-47's( U.S. made) RPGS(U.S. made) and Russian tanks(U.S. made). Do you think no one else sees news report from Libya and what weapons they have? Save time and just put "I hate America,NATO and anybody else that isnt like me".

Do you really want to play that game? Should I start gathering the details on the 'innocent' Brits, Americans and French? Yeah and don't get me started on Israel either.
(Goran., 20 October 2011 22:00)

Your right! What about the ancient Romans, Greeks, Vikings, Persians, Arabs, Serbs? What game are we playing? Name any nation that has ever gone to war or killed people of another race..