Muslim presidency member accuses RS president

The real crisis for Bakir and the Fed is that only a couple of days ago, some Canton 10 leaders were putting out the feelers for a referendum to unite with Rep Srpska. To co-operate and put historical diffs aside for the future between two former enemies, then the problem is obviously you Bakir and not your neighbour.

What kind of an Foolish and Idiotic statement is this -

“Talks about referendums, about Bosnia-Herzegovina’s unsustainability, inability to live together, about the state as a failed experiment of the international community continuously poison the public and bring anxiety among people in the entire country,” the Muslim presidency member pointed out.

He stressed that Dodik’s policy had brought Bosnia-Herzegovina into one of the deepest crisis since the Dayton Accords, adding that the reforms were blocked, that the country was lagging behind the entire region on the European pathway and that the reconciliation process was halted by raising of international tensions.

- Is not the break up of Yugoslavia the Proof that Dodik is Right ?.

Amazing what kind of fools there are !.

Arn.Sweden.

Attack on serb leader today is funny. Radical Islam leaders again shaking Bosnia. His 1-st job is to take care for bad islamist and after use Dayton, He do oposite. Lifting of dust and painting Serb is over bro. Be quiet and nice with the Serbs, please.

"Fred",

May I remind you that it is the Bosniaks and their Western masters who are constantly trying to undermine "Dayton" and take away the hard fought rights of RS. Your innuendo that RS is looking for an armed conflict is ridiculous and even if there is going to be a conflict in the future you seem to have already branded Dodik and others as war criminals that need to go to The Hague. I am sure that the Serbs in RS will defend what is their and for which many brave and innocent Serbs paid the ultimate price. Finally, if you get agitated by the way B92 employees are doing their job then please feel free to stop visiting this site. I am sure there are many site where you can exchange your biased mind and opinions with other like-minded people. You will not be missed if you decide to do that.

Dodik will see to it that "Republika Srpska" in Bosnia-Herzegovina ends up the same way that "Republika Srpska Krajina" ended up in Croatia. Violate Dayton, start conflict, see where it gets him. He's well on his path towards joining his mentors Karadzic and Mladic in jail. Btw, who is the editor of B92? How can a statement like the "Muslim" member of the presidency make it into print? He is the Bosniak/Bosnian member of the presidency of Bosnia-Herzegovina and should be referred to as such. I, and many other avid readers, expect more from B92 in terms of journalistic professionalism and accuracy.

If Dodik is to be criticized in public for something he said, it is good form to quote him on what he did say. There are, at least, two sides to every story.

Milan what a bunch of BS you are spewing. The "innocent" Serbs out gunned their victims 99 to 1 in military hardware that they stole and war criminally used overwhelmingly on unarmed civilian populations. The facts are over 90% of the convicted war criminals are Serbs.

How can a statement like the "Muslim" member of the presidency make it into print? He is the Bosniak/Bosnian member of the presidency of Bosnia-Herzegovina and should be referred to as such. I, and many other avid readers, expect more from B92 in terms of journalistic professionalism and accuracy.
(Fred, 19 October 2011 22:00)
He is muslim. There is no such thing as 'Bosniak', it was invented by Tito to weaken Serbia even further. You muslims in Bosnia are former Serbs who converted to islam for an easier life and not to pay taxes. Those are the facts. Cheers!!

Milan, how are Bakir and the west trying to undermine the dayton agreement when Dodik's the one making calls for secession?

And hard fought rights? creating a state through genocide and ethnic-cleansing? yes, very hard fought. And what of the former residents of Muslim or Catholic backrounds that were either murdered or dispelled in order to make that RS state of yours? I guess their rights werent of much value were they? come on, wake up mate.

Hi Fred, I disagree with your argument that Muslims should be referred to Bosniaks/Bosnians. Bosnian Muslims are today referred to as Bosniaks however "Bosnian" refers to all the "native" Slav people of Bosnia-Herzegovina - Serb, Croat and Muslim, regardless of who got there first. Cheers, Nick...

Poor Fred gets offended by small details, and meanwhile here I'm driving on Sunday through Richmond Hill in Ontario and see a new super mosque built right beside a Jewish Yeshiva, while there's so much room elsewhere to build it. Top things off, another town Markham has just given the greenlight to build another super Mosque, this time right next to a Catholic School in a residential neighborhood. Hmmmm...think about those points abit...and see where its leading, with unlimited freedom in a secular world...

-Dodik will see to it that "Republika Srpska" in Bosnia-Herzegovina ends up the same way that "Republika Srpska Krajina" ended up in Croatia. Violate Dayton, start conflict, see where it gets him. He's well on his path towards joining his mentors Karadzic and Mladic in jail. Btw, who is the editor of B92? How can a statement like the "Muslim" member of the presidency make it into print? He is the Bosniak/Bosnian member of the presidency of Bosnia-Herzegovina and should be referred to as such. I, and many other avid readers, expect more from B92 in terms of journalistic professionalism and accuracy.(Fred, 19 October 2011 22:00)-

Thanks Fred, as always. when i saw the headline, i just groaned. the milosevic press, biz as usual. "muslim" member... oh, please. mr prop and ms ganda in high gear as always. can you imagine every time they mentioned that horrible do-dik, they'd call him "orthodox do-dik" or "commie do-dik", for once!

izetbegovic is the bosniak member, if you are obsessed about ethnicity, which their media obviously is, and which dayton has promoted. altho do-dik and company have forever perverted dayton. while the intl community has facilitated him.

and IF there ever comes into power something resembling democratic governance in bosnia, in the balkans, we can INterview their beloved do-dik -- in prison!

fred -- i was just writing about the desperate need for dissidents to visit this site, not be scared off, intimidated by the usual suspects. something tells me you are not easily intimidated, bro!

ciao. roberto frisco

Emir and Lenard,

Do you really think that the Bosnian Serbs were going to let themselves slaughtered by the Bosniaks and Croats again after all that happened in WWI and WWII when these groups fought against the Serbs alongside Austria-Hungary and Nazi Germany? I do not think so. The Bosniaks and Croats did not want to live peacefully with the Serbs and despite being outgunned they chose the confrontation. They got what they asked for and all this was preventable. It is sad that so many innocent civilians got killed on all sides, but in general the Bosniaks and Croats ignore the Serbian victims and their own war crimes. Do not try to maintain something that cannot and will not last.

Fred - well yes he is the Bosniak member, not Bosnian. But he is also the son of the man who made the Islamic Declaration so Muslim is not exactly misleading either.

First: I am not pro-Serb. Nor pro-Bosniak or pro-Croat.

If RS wants to change Dayton the West says: no way!
But the West and the Bosniaks themselves also want to change Dayton.

No double standards please!

Dayton is not perfect. But it is als 'we' got!

Bosniaks want a more centralized state.
Serbs want more power to the regions.
Croats want their own entity.

Well: the result is: nothing will change. Maybe Dayton is not that bad!
As in: it is all 'we' got!

Do not try to maintain something that cannot and will not last.
(Milan, 20 October 2011 16:11) Yore rite the criminal aggression militarily thrust fantasy of a "Srpska" entity aka Greater Serbia. Will not last in the country of Bosnia i Herzegovina just like did not in Croatia. The Serbs like always being a obstinate expansionist war mongering people in the region of former Yugo Serb nick name was the Mexican banditos.

Yugoslavia is not was not BiH- it is a nationalist’s fantasy that it was or is- the fact that there is a mix within BiH greater than mixes elsewhere is more to do with geography. Dayton was a tourniquet to stop the bleeding it never was a blueprint for political development- its weaknesses in this area are glaring and increasingly counterproductive to underpinning a peaceful and healthy development. Dodik constantly plays both sides – the Daytonesque let’s all work together but then does the opposite and the separatist we can’t work together then prevents anything to the contrary.

It is amazing how every serb is a historical expert. It would not surprise me if someone made a claim that Dinosaurs derived from serbs. It's easier for weak-minded people such as milan to simply re-write history in order not to face the truth, but it's time for a reality check. The fact of the matter is that serbs started four different wars in less than a decade, so do not try to make it look like you were the victims in this conflict. It was the serbs that set up rape camps and killed thousands of innocent civilians; this is demonstrated by the fact that mass graves of BOSNIAK victims are found all over Bosnia & Hercegovina to this day while not even one mass grave of serbian victims from the Bosnian war has been found.

Milan by your reasoning it looks like we are to preemptive strikes who ever has the weapons and a military advantage obliterate their neighbours first eat or be eaten lawless rule of the jungle. By it make believe of a "Srpska" is the little fat flightless Dodo not to swift about to go extinct permanently. The old saying what you sowed that is what you will reap it looks we will be playing by the Serb criminal rules pity that is exactly what Milan are advocating and support.

Lenard,

Next time the Bosniaks and Croats plan another "little" Serb genocide they know what to expect. RS is here to stay, RS is here to stay! Anything to upset you!

(Fred, 19 October 2011 22:00)

Just keep on threatening,that is what you Muslims did in 92 saying Bosnia will be all your and Serbs and Croats your slaves etc.
I can clearly remember those statements...

And now you are decimated on 20% territory and lost some 200.000 people...
Better be quiet or you will be decimated to 10% or 5% of the territory,you are surrounded by enemies,the West will NOT help you out this time (no sympathy fo radical Muslims left)!

As far as the RS and Dodik is concerned,we mainly achieved what we wanted in 1992-1995,now we are just waiting until the West gives us the permission to secede,this will happen and you cannot do anything but cry...

Lenard,

Just answer my question at the beginning of my previous posting instead of your usual anti-RS rant. RS will not go away. It will stay autonomous in BiH or if the Bosniaks and their western sponsors break "Dayton" it will finally secede from BiH and either stay independent or form some union with Serbia. I would call that a win-win-win situation.

this is demonstrated by the fact that mass graves of BOSNIAK victims are found all over Bosnia & Hercegovina to this day while not even one mass grave of serbian victims from the Bosnian war has been found.
(Armin, 21 October 2011 18:41)

Yet Milan is re-writing history because you are not aware. Ok the Bosnian war started in April 92, the first mass grave and massacre of civilians happened around then. It was the first 59 civilians of which 18 were children as young as five killed by joint Muslim and Croat forces. Ths is what set the tone for the war, this is what Milan is saying the Serbs would not let you kill them again.

He reminds me so much of Milosevic. So arrogant, selfish, and self-serving. He'll run the RS entity's economy into the ground with his reckless spending and theft and will then ask the impoverished Bosnian Serbs to follow him into a war with the Bosnian state which he will lose resulting in disappearance of entities and him going to jail. Milosevic though he had it all figured out and was master of the universe. He died in a jail cell after most Serbs couldn't stand the sight of him due to the hardships and isolation he put them through. Dodik is on that path. He who lives by the sword dies by the sword, Dodik should know that.

Bush Jr intended to go to war in Iraq irrespective of public belief in WMD, once he had set in motion the military juggernaut 12 months before the invasion, nothing like truth or good will was going to get in the way. Equally so the first shots fired in BiH weren’t at the ‘wedding party’ nor in April 92 they were well and truly locked and loaded prior to that. If one was to be even more sequentially simplisitc then ask how long did it take Arkan and his thugs to drive from Serbia to Bijelina and start their bloody business end of March and the first days of April, well before the snipers fired at the 100,000 strong peace marchers in Sarajevo( although he was by then centred n Banja Luka 'fresh' from Vukovar) Weeks before the wedding party Serb paramilitaries were shooting and bombing their way through Bosanski Brod and around Banja Luka.
I suggest you go for a drive sometime through BiH take a tallymeter and simply visit the grave sites of those killed down the Drina and in Sarajevo and Tuzla, of course go to Pale and Banja Luka –compare the figures and dates. If you can't make it then check the Book of the Dead by the RDC who have done the task for you. And if you doubt them then ask people in Bosnaski Brod, Foca, Prijedor, Visegrad, Doboj, Brcko, to name a few, what happened there and when- but look into their eyes when they answer, for that is where the truth, lies.

Leaving aside the anachronistic and misrepresentation 'national' origins reference, it is always surprising how easily some dismiss individual based conversion to a religion, adding to it every negative interpretation possible, yet overlook the absurdity and entrapment of conversion by royal decree, as in the case of most orthodox ( used in the general sense) religions. What is it about religion by birth that makes the followers so bigoted and fearful of any alternative?

Attack on serb leader today is funny. Radical Islam leaders again shaking Bosnia. His 1-st job is to take care for bad islamist and after use Dayton, He do oposite. Lifting of dust and painting Serb is over bro. Be quiet and nice with the Serbs, please.

The real crisis for Bakir and the Fed is that only a couple of days ago, some Canton 10 leaders were putting out the feelers for a referendum to unite with Rep Srpska. To co-operate and put historical diffs aside for the future between two former enemies, then the problem is obviously you Bakir and not your neighbour.

Dodik will see to it that "Republika Srpska" in Bosnia-Herzegovina ends up the same way that "Republika Srpska Krajina" ended up in Croatia. Violate Dayton, start conflict, see where it gets him. He's well on his path towards joining his mentors Karadzic and Mladic in jail. Btw, who is the editor of B92? How can a statement like the "Muslim" member of the presidency make it into print? He is the Bosniak/Bosnian member of the presidency of Bosnia-Herzegovina and should be referred to as such. I, and many other avid readers, expect more from B92 in terms of journalistic professionalism and accuracy.

"Fred",

May I remind you that it is the Bosniaks and their Western masters who are constantly trying to undermine "Dayton" and take away the hard fought rights of RS. Your innuendo that RS is looking for an armed conflict is ridiculous and even if there is going to be a conflict in the future you seem to have already branded Dodik and others as war criminals that need to go to The Hague. I am sure that the Serbs in RS will defend what is their and for which many brave and innocent Serbs paid the ultimate price. Finally, if you get agitated by the way B92 employees are doing their job then please feel free to stop visiting this site. I am sure there are many site where you can exchange your biased mind and opinions with other like-minded people. You will not be missed if you decide to do that.

What kind of an Foolish and Idiotic statement is this -

“Talks about referendums, about Bosnia-Herzegovina’s unsustainability, inability to live together, about the state as a failed experiment of the international community continuously poison the public and bring anxiety among people in the entire country,” the Muslim presidency member pointed out.

He stressed that Dodik’s policy had brought Bosnia-Herzegovina into one of the deepest crisis since the Dayton Accords, adding that the reforms were blocked, that the country was lagging behind the entire region on the European pathway and that the reconciliation process was halted by raising of international tensions.

- Is not the break up of Yugoslavia the Proof that Dodik is Right ?.

Amazing what kind of fools there are !.

Arn.Sweden.

Emir and Lenard,

Do you really think that the Bosnian Serbs were going to let themselves slaughtered by the Bosniaks and Croats again after all that happened in WWI and WWII when these groups fought against the Serbs alongside Austria-Hungary and Nazi Germany? I do not think so. The Bosniaks and Croats did not want to live peacefully with the Serbs and despite being outgunned they chose the confrontation. They got what they asked for and all this was preventable. It is sad that so many innocent civilians got killed on all sides, but in general the Bosniaks and Croats ignore the Serbian victims and their own war crimes. Do not try to maintain something that cannot and will not last.

Milan what a bunch of BS you are spewing. The "innocent" Serbs out gunned their victims 99 to 1 in military hardware that they stole and war criminally used overwhelmingly on unarmed civilian populations. The facts are over 90% of the convicted war criminals are Serbs.

Fred - well yes he is the Bosniak member, not Bosnian. But he is also the son of the man who made the Islamic Declaration so Muslim is not exactly misleading either.

Milan, how are Bakir and the west trying to undermine the dayton agreement when Dodik's the one making calls for secession?

And hard fought rights? creating a state through genocide and ethnic-cleansing? yes, very hard fought. And what of the former residents of Muslim or Catholic backrounds that were either murdered or dispelled in order to make that RS state of yours? I guess their rights werent of much value were they? come on, wake up mate.

-Dodik will see to it that "Republika Srpska" in Bosnia-Herzegovina ends up the same way that "Republika Srpska Krajina" ended up in Croatia. Violate Dayton, start conflict, see where it gets him. He's well on his path towards joining his mentors Karadzic and Mladic in jail. Btw, who is the editor of B92? How can a statement like the "Muslim" member of the presidency make it into print? He is the Bosniak/Bosnian member of the presidency of Bosnia-Herzegovina and should be referred to as such. I, and many other avid readers, expect more from B92 in terms of journalistic professionalism and accuracy.(Fred, 19 October 2011 22:00)-

Thanks Fred, as always. when i saw the headline, i just groaned. the milosevic press, biz as usual. "muslim" member... oh, please. mr prop and ms ganda in high gear as always. can you imagine every time they mentioned that horrible do-dik, they'd call him "orthodox do-dik" or "commie do-dik", for once!

izetbegovic is the bosniak member, if you are obsessed about ethnicity, which their media obviously is, and which dayton has promoted. altho do-dik and company have forever perverted dayton. while the intl community has facilitated him.

and IF there ever comes into power something resembling democratic governance in bosnia, in the balkans, we can INterview their beloved do-dik -- in prison!

fred -- i was just writing about the desperate need for dissidents to visit this site, not be scared off, intimidated by the usual suspects. something tells me you are not easily intimidated, bro!

ciao. roberto frisco

Poor Fred gets offended by small details, and meanwhile here I'm driving on Sunday through Richmond Hill in Ontario and see a new super mosque built right beside a Jewish Yeshiva, while there's so much room elsewhere to build it. Top things off, another town Markham has just given the greenlight to build another super Mosque, this time right next to a Catholic School in a residential neighborhood. Hmmmm...think about those points abit...and see where its leading, with unlimited freedom in a secular world...

Yugoslavia is not was not BiH- it is a nationalist’s fantasy that it was or is- the fact that there is a mix within BiH greater than mixes elsewhere is more to do with geography. Dayton was a tourniquet to stop the bleeding it never was a blueprint for political development- its weaknesses in this area are glaring and increasingly counterproductive to underpinning a peaceful and healthy development. Dodik constantly plays both sides – the Daytonesque let’s all work together but then does the opposite and the separatist we can’t work together then prevents anything to the contrary.

It is amazing how every serb is a historical expert. It would not surprise me if someone made a claim that Dinosaurs derived from serbs. It's easier for weak-minded people such as milan to simply re-write history in order not to face the truth, but it's time for a reality check. The fact of the matter is that serbs started four different wars in less than a decade, so do not try to make it look like you were the victims in this conflict. It was the serbs that set up rape camps and killed thousands of innocent civilians; this is demonstrated by the fact that mass graves of BOSNIAK victims are found all over Bosnia & Hercegovina to this day while not even one mass grave of serbian victims from the Bosnian war has been found.

First: I am not pro-Serb. Nor pro-Bosniak or pro-Croat.

If RS wants to change Dayton the West says: no way!
But the West and the Bosniaks themselves also want to change Dayton.

No double standards please!

Dayton is not perfect. But it is als 'we' got!

Bosniaks want a more centralized state.
Serbs want more power to the regions.
Croats want their own entity.

Well: the result is: nothing will change. Maybe Dayton is not that bad!
As in: it is all 'we' got!

If Dodik is to be criticized in public for something he said, it is good form to quote him on what he did say. There are, at least, two sides to every story.

Hi Fred, I disagree with your argument that Muslims should be referred to Bosniaks/Bosnians. Bosnian Muslims are today referred to as Bosniaks however "Bosnian" refers to all the "native" Slav people of Bosnia-Herzegovina - Serb, Croat and Muslim, regardless of who got there first. Cheers, Nick...

(Fred, 19 October 2011 22:00)

Just keep on threatening,that is what you Muslims did in 92 saying Bosnia will be all your and Serbs and Croats your slaves etc.
I can clearly remember those statements...

And now you are decimated on 20% territory and lost some 200.000 people...
Better be quiet or you will be decimated to 10% or 5% of the territory,you are surrounded by enemies,the West will NOT help you out this time (no sympathy fo radical Muslims left)!

As far as the RS and Dodik is concerned,we mainly achieved what we wanted in 1992-1995,now we are just waiting until the West gives us the permission to secede,this will happen and you cannot do anything but cry...

Lenard,

Next time the Bosniaks and Croats plan another "little" Serb genocide they know what to expect. RS is here to stay, RS is here to stay! Anything to upset you!

Milan by your reasoning it looks like we are to preemptive strikes who ever has the weapons and a military advantage obliterate their neighbours first eat or be eaten lawless rule of the jungle. By it make believe of a "Srpska" is the little fat flightless Dodo not to swift about to go extinct permanently. The old saying what you sowed that is what you will reap it looks we will be playing by the Serb criminal rules pity that is exactly what Milan are advocating and support.

He reminds me so much of Milosevic. So arrogant, selfish, and self-serving. He'll run the RS entity's economy into the ground with his reckless spending and theft and will then ask the impoverished Bosnian Serbs to follow him into a war with the Bosnian state which he will lose resulting in disappearance of entities and him going to jail. Milosevic though he had it all figured out and was master of the universe. He died in a jail cell after most Serbs couldn't stand the sight of him due to the hardships and isolation he put them through. Dodik is on that path. He who lives by the sword dies by the sword, Dodik should know that.

Do not try to maintain something that cannot and will not last.
(Milan, 20 October 2011 16:11) Yore rite the criminal aggression militarily thrust fantasy of a "Srpska" entity aka Greater Serbia. Will not last in the country of Bosnia i Herzegovina just like did not in Croatia. The Serbs like always being a obstinate expansionist war mongering people in the region of former Yugo Serb nick name was the Mexican banditos.

Lenard,

Just answer my question at the beginning of my previous posting instead of your usual anti-RS rant. RS will not go away. It will stay autonomous in BiH or if the Bosniaks and their western sponsors break "Dayton" it will finally secede from BiH and either stay independent or form some union with Serbia. I would call that a win-win-win situation.

How can a statement like the "Muslim" member of the presidency make it into print? He is the Bosniak/Bosnian member of the presidency of Bosnia-Herzegovina and should be referred to as such. I, and many other avid readers, expect more from B92 in terms of journalistic professionalism and accuracy.
(Fred, 19 October 2011 22:00)
He is muslim. There is no such thing as 'Bosniak', it was invented by Tito to weaken Serbia even further. You muslims in Bosnia are former Serbs who converted to islam for an easier life and not to pay taxes. Those are the facts. Cheers!!

Leaving aside the anachronistic and misrepresentation 'national' origins reference, it is always surprising how easily some dismiss individual based conversion to a religion, adding to it every negative interpretation possible, yet overlook the absurdity and entrapment of conversion by royal decree, as in the case of most orthodox ( used in the general sense) religions. What is it about religion by birth that makes the followers so bigoted and fearful of any alternative?

this is demonstrated by the fact that mass graves of BOSNIAK victims are found all over Bosnia & Hercegovina to this day while not even one mass grave of serbian victims from the Bosnian war has been found.
(Armin, 21 October 2011 18:41)

Yet Milan is re-writing history because you are not aware. Ok the Bosnian war started in April 92, the first mass grave and massacre of civilians happened around then. It was the first 59 civilians of which 18 were children as young as five killed by joint Muslim and Croat forces. Ths is what set the tone for the war, this is what Milan is saying the Serbs would not let you kill them again.

Bush Jr intended to go to war in Iraq irrespective of public belief in WMD, once he had set in motion the military juggernaut 12 months before the invasion, nothing like truth or good will was going to get in the way. Equally so the first shots fired in BiH weren’t at the ‘wedding party’ nor in April 92 they were well and truly locked and loaded prior to that. If one was to be even more sequentially simplisitc then ask how long did it take Arkan and his thugs to drive from Serbia to Bijelina and start their bloody business end of March and the first days of April, well before the snipers fired at the 100,000 strong peace marchers in Sarajevo( although he was by then centred n Banja Luka 'fresh' from Vukovar) Weeks before the wedding party Serb paramilitaries were shooting and bombing their way through Bosanski Brod and around Banja Luka.
I suggest you go for a drive sometime through BiH take a tallymeter and simply visit the grave sites of those killed down the Drina and in Sarajevo and Tuzla, of course go to Pale and Banja Luka –compare the figures and dates. If you can't make it then check the Book of the Dead by the RDC who have done the task for you. And if you doubt them then ask people in Bosnaski Brod, Foca, Prijedor, Visegrad, Doboj, Brcko, to name a few, what happened there and when- but look into their eyes when they answer, for that is where the truth, lies.