Sunday, 02.10.2011.
14:04
Kosovo police Hazir Berisha told Tanjug on Sunday that one person was murdered and another wounded in the shootout in the village of Zrze near Orahovac.
Izvor: Tanjug
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pre 12 godina
Well, you did not say “some murders” have not been solved. You said “no murders” have been solved. So you need to list all murders and show that none of them has been solved :)
(icj1, 6 October 2011 03:13)
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NO, actually it is you who needs to tell us which murders have been sold since you are trying to counter his statement.
That's how it works, so let's hear them.
pre 12 godina
ICJ you ask about the list of Serbs who have been murdered and the murders remain unsolved. I can think of several right off the top of my head:
Swimming children shot in Gorazdevac. Unsolved.
12 farmers murdered in Gracko. Unsolved.
Elderly couple murdered in their home in 2009 in Gnjilane. Unsolved.
These are just three well known cases off the top of my head. How is this for starters?
Eagerly awaiting your answer.
(Englebert, 4 October 2011 15:49)
Well, you did not say “some murders” have not been solved. You said “no murders” have been solved. So you need to list all murders and show that none of them has been solved :)
pre 12 godina
And I bet that many Serbs saw who murdered Enver Zymberi, but don't say a word because they silently condone it. That is why I don't give much on Serbian crocodile tears in that case here. Most likely it was anyway a criminal disput between two factions or persons. Who knows..
(JohnC., 3 October 2011 12:57)
There is a difference between an innocent man being shot leaving a restaurant and a terrorist firing automatic weapons at civilians being shot.
pre 12 godina
hey, where's roberto to condemn this act?
(frisco watch, 3 October 2011 22:48)
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He is busy with Sonja and Nada thinking of new ways to make Serbia look bad.
pre 12 godina
Pure obfuscation. 42 comments so far and nobody even cares to mention the fact that there are no known motives for the attack nor is the assailants ethnicity been mentioned. All we know is that there was a shooting and a gentleman is dead and his son is wounded. This reminds me of when people were arguing about whether the world was flat or round. Stop ignoring the facts and make statements based off of fact and not your subjective racist ideas. I've come to understand that anyone using the catch phrases "albanians did organ trafficking" or "Kosovo je Srbija" is just projecting their own ignorance. Keep it up.
pre 12 godina
ICJ you ask about the list of Serbs who have been murdered and the murders remain unsolved. I can think of several right off the top of my head:
Swimming children shot in Gorazdevac. Unsolved.
12 farmers murdered in Gracko. Unsolved.
Elderly couple murdered in their home in 2009 in Gnjilane. Unsolved.
These are just three well known cases off the top of my head. How is this for starters?
Eagerly awaiting your answer.
pre 12 godina
Alban, I used my head, thats how im making an educated assumption.
(SCP UK, 3 October 2011 19:46)
And I used my head to make an educated assumption, which is opposite to yours. Let’s now exchange the resumes and find out who is more educated :)
I dont think I need to waste my time filing through all the articles of cases of Serbs being murdered by albanians, you must be in denial or something.
(SCP UK, 3 October 2011 19:46)
Articles are not evidence… Just read the B92 “article” about this case and you understand what I am saying :)
In fact, if you are so sure this wasn't ethnically motivated, how about you prove that. Enough of the BS by you albanians please.
(SCP UK, 3 October 2011 19:46)
This must be the most brilliant comment here. When I read this, I cried Eureka ! All murders in Kosovo, Serbia, Balkans or the world are ethnically motivated unless proved otherwise. Prosecutors job in all countries from now onwards in much easier. They no longer have to find a motive for a murder; they have it – ethnicity, unless somebody is able to prove beyond reasonable doubt the contrary. It is the accused now that has to prove that the crime he/she allegedly committed is not ethnically motivated. This is a revolution in criminal procedural law !
Uh yeeeeeeah, about Enver. There is information coming out of some EULEX sources that Enver was shot from the back at a distance of 10-15 meters. Additionally, the round(s) recovered from his body are the very same as ROSU uses. This is obviously second-hand information, but is worth considering.
Believe it or do not believe it, but the silence by EULEX on this issue is deafening. It may well have been a case of friendly fire.
(Wikileakz, 3 October 2011 14:35)
Uh yeeeeeeah, about Enver. There is information coming out of some EULEX sources that Enver was shot from above (most likely from the Moon) at a distance of 390-400B meters. Additionally, the round(s) recovered from his body are the very same as ALIEN uses. This is obviously one second-hand information, but is worth considering.
Believe it or do not believe it, but the silence by EULEX on this issue is deafening. It may well have been a case of godly fire.
Alban, not to be funny but no one knows the answer to this question because no murder of Serbs has been solved in the past decade.
(Englebert, 3 October 2011 12:29)
Can you please list all the murders of Serbs in Kosovo that have not been solved ?
I would put every penny I have on them being albanian, this is hardly rocket science when we judge the situation in Kosovo and all the many crimes that have occured against Serbs in the last few years.
(SCP UK, 3 October 2011 10:43)
There are fewer murders against Serbs in Kosovo, than Serbs in Serbia. I would put every penny I have on them (the murderers in Serbia) being albanian, this is hardly rocket science when we judge the situation in Serbia and all the many crimes that have occured against Serbs in the last few years.
Oh: and obviously that doesn't change the gravity of the crime...
(Martin, 3 October 2011 10:40)
Of course it does.
has it even been established that they were killed by albanians? were the motived purely ethnically motivated or was there something else behind? you jump to conclusions rather easily
(alban, 3 October 2011 10:10)
Oooooh, here is another one demanding evidence, proof, and BS like that. Isn’t it sufficient for you the expertise of the people in these forums ?!
Where's that "law and order" Serbs can be guaranteed in the independent dream state of "Kosova"?
(Balkan Anthropologist, 3 October 2011 00:11)
Where's that "law and order" Serbs can be guaranteed in the independent dream state of "Serbia" where the police can’t guarantee the right of minorities to gather in public, not even the right to do a fraction of what Serbs are allowed to do in Kosovo without anybody preventing them ?
pre 12 godina
Just another day in the life of a Serb living in Kosovo...
pre 12 godina
@SCP UK you're making an educated assumption are you? OK, i too am making an educated assumption...he wasn't killed by an albanian. if he was, it wasn't ethnically motivated. since you an't prove your 'educated assumption'...neither can I
pre 12 godina
hey, where's roberto to condemn this act?
pre 12 godina
Alban, I used my head, thats how im making an educated assumption. I dont think I need to waste my time filing through all the articles of cases of Serbs being murdered by albanians, you must be in denial or something. In fact, if you are so sure this wasn't ethnically motivated, how about you prove that. Enough of the BS by you albanians please.
pre 12 godina
"Go head I dare you to preach christianity in muslim Kosovo!...dead man walking!...lol..."
You really don't know what you are talking about. 10% of Albanians are Catholic. There are many Christina churches in Pristina.
The conflict in Kosovo is not, and never has been religious, but ethnic.
(Another American, 3 October 2011 16:25)
Aside from the new Catholic cathedral in Pristina, I can only thing of one other church and it is Serbian. I also do not think 10% is an accurate number - I think it is more around 3%. Either way, I do agree that the majority of the conflict was ethnic rather than religious, although the conflict did provide the opportunity for religious extremists to enter Kosovo and spread radicalism. The links between Arab terrorist groups fronting as charities are clear, as are the links to US contractor MPRI bringing in mujaheddin from Bosnia. The Srbica mosque and the blue mosque in South Mitro have been known for the radical elements, Bajram Aslani being one of the followers.
pre 12 godina
"Go head I dare you to preach christianity in muslim Kosovo!...dead man walking!...lol..."
You really don't know what you are talking about. 10% of Albanians are Catholic. There are many Christina churches in Pristina.
The conflict in Kosovo is not, and never has been religious, but ethnic.
pre 12 godina
To: JohnC
The only reason they were shot is they were not Muslim! It;s simple you are either with them or against them. No ethnic group can survive, grow and develop in Muslim Kosovo other than muslims themselves. Islam is a religion of assimilation! Always has been....
You can tell yor are rendering views of which you know nothing from your perch 4000 miles away. During the 3 years I was there I never saw one incident against Christians because they were Christian. Attacks against SErbian Churches were due to their Serbian connection not their Christian connection.
(truth, 2 October 2011 23:28)
Go head I dare you to preach christianity in muslim Kosovo!...dead man walking!...lol...
pre 12 godina
And I bet that many Serbs saw who murdered Enver Zymberi, but don't say a word because they silently condone it. That is why I don't give much on Serbian crocodile tears in that case here. Most likely it was anyway a criminal disput between two factions or persons. Who knows..
(JohnC., 3 October 2011 12:57)
Uh yeeeeeeah, about Enver. There is information coming out of some EULEX sources that Enver was shot from the back at a distance of 10-15 meters. Additionally, the round(s) recovered from his body are the very same as ROSU uses. This is obviously second-hand information, but is worth considering.
Believe it or do not believe it, but the silence by EULEX on this issue is deafening. It may well have been a case of friendly fire.
pre 12 godina
I bet the Kosovo "Police" found the shooter(s). But since they were albanians killing serbs, they let them go with a warning and continue "looking" for the shooters.
(Steve B., 2 October 2011 17:06)
And I bet that many Serbs saw who murdered Enver Zymberi, but don't say a word because they silently condone it. That is why I don't give much on Serbian crocodile tears in that case here. Most likely it was anyway a criminal disput between two factions or persons. Who knows..
pre 12 godina
answer me this question, when was the last time a Serb was murdered in Kosovo by an ALbanian for the pure reason of being a Serb?
(alban, 3 October 2011 11:10)
Alban, not to be funny but no one knows the answer to this question because no murder of Serbs has been solved in the past decade. ALL of the murders of Serbs have gone unsolved, be they in Gracko, Gnjilanje or Gorazdevac. I am aware that you are not one of the radicals on here and I am not trying to be sarcastic, but these are the facts to the best of my knowledge. I am sure most average Kosovo Albanians do not even realize the pathetic clearance rate of these murders, but the Kosov Serbs certainly do.
pre 12 godina
@SCP OK...go ahead and prove it. you obviously know for a fact that this was a purely ethnically motivated crime...show me where it is that you read this? answer me this question, when was the last time a Serb was murdered in Kosovo by an ALbanian for the pure reason of being a Serb?
p.s. As for the Albanians in Preseva and Bujanovathey are also treated badly and suffer .Your people need to stop dodging this and admit they are treated badly purely because they are Albanians
pre 12 godina
"There is no protection in muslim Kosovo for anyone that is non muslim! For this family it is too late, old man is dead and there will be no future for his son if he stays in muslim Kosovo! This story does not surprise me at all."
(Canadian Serb, 2 October 2011 16:56)
There's no protection at all in Kosovo. It's ruled by mafia clans, they define the laws in this nice country, and if you don't agree with them or, beware, even dare to testify against one of these clan leaders, you are killed, no matter if you are Serb, Albanian or Volcanian.
pre 12 godina
Alban,
I would put every penny I have on them being albanian, this is hardly rocket science when we judge the situation in Kosovo and all the many crimes that have occured against Serbs in the last few years. As for the other ethnic groups in Kosovo, they are also treated badly and suffer just like Serbs do, even if not to much of an extent as Serbs do. Your people need to stop dodging this and admit this was a cold blooded murder because they were Serbian, just like all the other many murders.
pre 12 godina
has it even been established that they were killed by albanians? were the motived purely ethnically motivated or was there something else behind? you jump to conclusions rather easily
p.s. if it is established that the killers were albanian and did this heinous crime out of pure hatred, hope they get locked up for life
pre 12 godina
@b92 - reconsider your headline. It is now confirmed that the victim was NOT a Serb but a CROAT! By just assuming that he is a Serb you bear part of the blame for igniting the situation on the ground... Thanks!
Oh: and obviously that doesn't change the gravity of the crime...
pre 12 godina
Serbs will continue to be killed by albanians and the quisling government in Belgrade will do nothing because . All of the remaining Serbs will be expelled from Kosovo and america will rejoice and the Tadic regime will squabble over the next gay pride marching route.
(Budimir, 2 October 2011 19:32)
Why does the gay parade have to be apart of this blog??!!! This proves that there"s limited tolerance withing Serbian comunity.
Gay, Croation, Mulsim, Albanian, Serb !!!! Who cares!!!??? All human beings for crying out loud.
I personally condemn any type of killings, regardless of the reason behind it,
But to teach your children to remember, not forget and retaliate.....hmmmmm....
pre 12 godina
@ CG:
After what you said you do realize that innocent Albanians have the right to not take s**t from certain people. I'd like to add by saying that my local brother-in-law when first residing in Fredericton dealt with Kosovar-Albanian refugees who arrived to Fredericton or the nearby town or village of Oromocto or another nearby town or village of Gagetown and when we discussed about the refugees, at one point he said something along the lines of that 10 year olds (he must be referring to 10 year ethnic Albanian boys at least) had to grow up really fast so therefore I wonder what he meant? Did he mean to tell me that some 10 year old ethnic Albanian kids or boys were trained to be child soldiers or at least learn how to take up arms to defend their families or themselves from the Serb army? If need be and although I had real life encounters with some Kosovar-Albanians I never had the opportunity to visit places that sheltered Kosovar refugees. Besides I was living in our birthplace ( the city of Bathurst) at the time so therefore Bathurst,New Brunswick was not equipped to shelter the refugees and it's also relatively far from Fredericton,Gagetown and Oromocto in New Brunswick.
pre 12 godina
This is sad.
This only fuels the fire & tensions between Serbs and Albanians in Kosovo.
This poor guy saw his father murdered before his eyes :(
RIP
pre 12 godina
All I see here is morons attacking CG for a statement he made, one which I happen to agree with, this is about a Serb being murdered yet again by an albanian, this is the tragic issue.
How many more Serbs need to be murdered before this mental world realises what kind of a place Kosovo is? Even with all the bitterness between Serbs and Croats, this kind of terror doesn't happen to Serbs living in Croatia. What is it with some albanians? It is as if killing Serbs has become a hobby.
pre 12 godina
Where's that "law and order" Serbs can be guaranteed in the independent dream state of "Kosova"? KFOR is pointing its guns at the wrong people.
pre 12 godina
The liberation of occupied kosovo is inevitable. one day soon the decaying, feeble, corrupt united states will be incapable of protecting her mafiosi friends in kosovo-that is the day that the serb flag will once again fly in its proper place in the center of pristina.
pre 12 godina
There is no protection in muslim Kosovo for anyone that is non muslim! For this family it is too late, old man is dead and there will be no future for his son if he stays in muslim Kosovo! This story does not surprise me at all. Serbs will nevr forget what international community did to their country and their people.
(Canadian Serb, 2 October 2011 16:56)
You can tell yor are rendering views of which you know nothing from your perch 4000 miles away. During the 3 years I was there I never saw one incident against Christians because they were Christian. Attacks against SErbian Churches were due to their Serbian connection not their Christian connection.
pre 12 godina
Never forget and never forgive,prepare yourself for the day x,the liberation day of our occupied southern province,that is what I teach my children!
(CG, 2 October 2011 14:27)
seems your father prepared you for the day x, and that day have gone in 1998 – 1999 regarding southern province, but such day your children can enjoy somewhere in Vojvodina, Sandjak, or Presevo. It would be better to prepare your children for a better life at your home or in e place where they can live better. All wars in ex-Yugoslavia came because of parents like you. I hope your children will learn from your failure and think in different way. Something we in Balkans are missing for centuries.
pre 12 godina
@CG:
that day will come.
pre 12 godina
" One thing is sure as the amen in the church:
Never forget and never forgive,prepare yourself for the day x,the liberation day of our occupied southern province,that is what I teach my children! CG"
- Are you going to send your kids there to die?
Will you be a proud father then? Or, do you know that day x will never happen?
You're just an internet warrior, aren't you?
pre 12 godina
Speaking Serbian around Albanians has been known to be fatal in Kosovo
pre 12 godina
Serbs will continue to be killed by albanians and the quisling government in Belgrade will do nothing because . All of the remaining Serbs will be expelled from Kosovo and america will rejoice and the Tadic regime will squabble over the next gay pride marching route.
pre 12 godina
CG,
You teach your children to hate and to prepare for war?
The only thing as sure as amen is that you don't deserve to live in the western democracy you emigrated to.
pre 12 godina
Way to go Paps!!! That's a way to raise children!!!
To those/him that comitted this crime, I trully wish they/he rotten(s) in hell. This is one of the reasons why Balkans will never move forward.
If this guy is found, and I'm sure he will, one would only hope that he gets the worst punishment possible. Even the electric chair would not do any justice.
pre 12 godina
It is sad what happend to this family
pre 12 godina
RIP.
pre 12 godina
I bet the Kosovo "Police" found the shooter(s). But since they were albanians killing serbs, they let them go with a warning and continue "looking" for the shooters.
pre 12 godina
cg,
Serbia doesn't have a "southern province".
RIP to the victim.
Thanks,
pre 12 godina
Sources say that all 10 eyewitnesses who blamed Kosovo Albans for murdering unfortunately committed suicide alltogether by shooting in the back of their own heads.
pre 12 godina
There is no protection in muslim Kosovo for anyone that is non muslim! For this family it is too late, old man is dead and there will be no future for his son if he stays in muslim Kosovo! This story does not surprise me at all. Serbs will nevr forget what international community did to their country and their people.
pre 12 godina
One thing is sure as the amen in the church:
Never forget and never forgive,prepare yourself for the day x,the liberation day of our occupied southern province,that is what I teach my children!
(CG, 2 October 2011 14:27)
Good to know. We albanians will be prepared then. You will not succed to occupy Kosovo again. If you were such an patriot then why don't you go to Kosovo and live there ?? If it's holy land to you then why don't pay with your life like albanian did to stay in Kosovo ??
pre 12 godina
The life of a Serb is at any time endangered in Kosovo except for the Northern part of KiM.
So, why should "Prishtina" have any right or legitimacy to govern the Northern part, since "Prishtina" is not capable and willing to protect the lifes of Serbian individuals ?
pre 12 godina
One thing is sure as the amen in the church:
Never forget and never forgive,prepare yourself for the day x,the liberation day of our occupied southern province,that is what I teach my children!
(CG, 2 October 2011 14:27)
Unless that so called 'southern province" of your is located in Jupiter,otherwise, I suggest you stop waisting time with your teaching.
pre 12 godina
RIP
pre 12 godina
One thing is sure as the amen in the church:
Never forget and never forgive,prepare yourself for the day x,the liberation day of our occupied southern province,that is what I teach my children!
pre 12 godina
One thing is sure as the amen in the church:
Never forget and never forgive,prepare yourself for the day x,the liberation day of our occupied southern province,that is what I teach my children!
pre 12 godina
RIP
pre 12 godina
Speaking Serbian around Albanians has been known to be fatal in Kosovo
pre 12 godina
Sources say that all 10 eyewitnesses who blamed Kosovo Albans for murdering unfortunately committed suicide alltogether by shooting in the back of their own heads.
pre 12 godina
There is no protection in muslim Kosovo for anyone that is non muslim! For this family it is too late, old man is dead and there will be no future for his son if he stays in muslim Kosovo! This story does not surprise me at all. Serbs will nevr forget what international community did to their country and their people.
pre 12 godina
It is sad what happend to this family
pre 12 godina
Serbs will continue to be killed by albanians and the quisling government in Belgrade will do nothing because . All of the remaining Serbs will be expelled from Kosovo and america will rejoice and the Tadic regime will squabble over the next gay pride marching route.
pre 12 godina
I bet the Kosovo "Police" found the shooter(s). But since they were albanians killing serbs, they let them go with a warning and continue "looking" for the shooters.
pre 12 godina
RIP.
pre 12 godina
The life of a Serb is at any time endangered in Kosovo except for the Northern part of KiM.
So, why should "Prishtina" have any right or legitimacy to govern the Northern part, since "Prishtina" is not capable and willing to protect the lifes of Serbian individuals ?
pre 12 godina
@CG:
that day will come.
pre 12 godina
Never forget and never forgive,prepare yourself for the day x,the liberation day of our occupied southern province,that is what I teach my children!
(CG, 2 October 2011 14:27)
seems your father prepared you for the day x, and that day have gone in 1998 – 1999 regarding southern province, but such day your children can enjoy somewhere in Vojvodina, Sandjak, or Presevo. It would be better to prepare your children for a better life at your home or in e place where they can live better. All wars in ex-Yugoslavia came because of parents like you. I hope your children will learn from your failure and think in different way. Something we in Balkans are missing for centuries.
pre 12 godina
One thing is sure as the amen in the church:
Never forget and never forgive,prepare yourself for the day x,the liberation day of our occupied southern province,that is what I teach my children!
(CG, 2 October 2011 14:27)
Good to know. We albanians will be prepared then. You will not succed to occupy Kosovo again. If you were such an patriot then why don't you go to Kosovo and live there ?? If it's holy land to you then why don't pay with your life like albanian did to stay in Kosovo ??
pre 12 godina
One thing is sure as the amen in the church:
Never forget and never forgive,prepare yourself for the day x,the liberation day of our occupied southern province,that is what I teach my children!
(CG, 2 October 2011 14:27)
Unless that so called 'southern province" of your is located in Jupiter,otherwise, I suggest you stop waisting time with your teaching.
pre 12 godina
CG,
You teach your children to hate and to prepare for war?
The only thing as sure as amen is that you don't deserve to live in the western democracy you emigrated to.
pre 12 godina
" One thing is sure as the amen in the church:
Never forget and never forgive,prepare yourself for the day x,the liberation day of our occupied southern province,that is what I teach my children! CG"
- Are you going to send your kids there to die?
Will you be a proud father then? Or, do you know that day x will never happen?
You're just an internet warrior, aren't you?
pre 12 godina
answer me this question, when was the last time a Serb was murdered in Kosovo by an ALbanian for the pure reason of being a Serb?
(alban, 3 October 2011 11:10)
Alban, not to be funny but no one knows the answer to this question because no murder of Serbs has been solved in the past decade. ALL of the murders of Serbs have gone unsolved, be they in Gracko, Gnjilanje or Gorazdevac. I am aware that you are not one of the radicals on here and I am not trying to be sarcastic, but these are the facts to the best of my knowledge. I am sure most average Kosovo Albanians do not even realize the pathetic clearance rate of these murders, but the Kosov Serbs certainly do.
pre 12 godina
cg,
Serbia doesn't have a "southern province".
RIP to the victim.
Thanks,
pre 12 godina
Way to go Paps!!! That's a way to raise children!!!
To those/him that comitted this crime, I trully wish they/he rotten(s) in hell. This is one of the reasons why Balkans will never move forward.
If this guy is found, and I'm sure he will, one would only hope that he gets the worst punishment possible. Even the electric chair would not do any justice.
pre 12 godina
Where's that "law and order" Serbs can be guaranteed in the independent dream state of "Kosova"? KFOR is pointing its guns at the wrong people.
pre 12 godina
The liberation of occupied kosovo is inevitable. one day soon the decaying, feeble, corrupt united states will be incapable of protecting her mafiosi friends in kosovo-that is the day that the serb flag will once again fly in its proper place in the center of pristina.
pre 12 godina
has it even been established that they were killed by albanians? were the motived purely ethnically motivated or was there something else behind? you jump to conclusions rather easily
p.s. if it is established that the killers were albanian and did this heinous crime out of pure hatred, hope they get locked up for life
pre 12 godina
This is sad.
This only fuels the fire & tensions between Serbs and Albanians in Kosovo.
This poor guy saw his father murdered before his eyes :(
RIP
pre 12 godina
@b92 - reconsider your headline. It is now confirmed that the victim was NOT a Serb but a CROAT! By just assuming that he is a Serb you bear part of the blame for igniting the situation on the ground... Thanks!
Oh: and obviously that doesn't change the gravity of the crime...
pre 12 godina
Alban,
I would put every penny I have on them being albanian, this is hardly rocket science when we judge the situation in Kosovo and all the many crimes that have occured against Serbs in the last few years. As for the other ethnic groups in Kosovo, they are also treated badly and suffer just like Serbs do, even if not to much of an extent as Serbs do. Your people need to stop dodging this and admit this was a cold blooded murder because they were Serbian, just like all the other many murders.
pre 12 godina
All I see here is morons attacking CG for a statement he made, one which I happen to agree with, this is about a Serb being murdered yet again by an albanian, this is the tragic issue.
How many more Serbs need to be murdered before this mental world realises what kind of a place Kosovo is? Even with all the bitterness between Serbs and Croats, this kind of terror doesn't happen to Serbs living in Croatia. What is it with some albanians? It is as if killing Serbs has become a hobby.
pre 12 godina
"There is no protection in muslim Kosovo for anyone that is non muslim! For this family it is too late, old man is dead and there will be no future for his son if he stays in muslim Kosovo! This story does not surprise me at all."
(Canadian Serb, 2 October 2011 16:56)
There's no protection at all in Kosovo. It's ruled by mafia clans, they define the laws in this nice country, and if you don't agree with them or, beware, even dare to testify against one of these clan leaders, you are killed, no matter if you are Serb, Albanian or Volcanian.
pre 12 godina
@SCP OK...go ahead and prove it. you obviously know for a fact that this was a purely ethnically motivated crime...show me where it is that you read this? answer me this question, when was the last time a Serb was murdered in Kosovo by an ALbanian for the pure reason of being a Serb?
p.s. As for the Albanians in Preseva and Bujanovathey are also treated badly and suffer .Your people need to stop dodging this and admit they are treated badly purely because they are Albanians
pre 12 godina
And I bet that many Serbs saw who murdered Enver Zymberi, but don't say a word because they silently condone it. That is why I don't give much on Serbian crocodile tears in that case here. Most likely it was anyway a criminal disput between two factions or persons. Who knows..
(JohnC., 3 October 2011 12:57)
Uh yeeeeeeah, about Enver. There is information coming out of some EULEX sources that Enver was shot from the back at a distance of 10-15 meters. Additionally, the round(s) recovered from his body are the very same as ROSU uses. This is obviously second-hand information, but is worth considering.
Believe it or do not believe it, but the silence by EULEX on this issue is deafening. It may well have been a case of friendly fire.
pre 12 godina
There is no protection in muslim Kosovo for anyone that is non muslim! For this family it is too late, old man is dead and there will be no future for his son if he stays in muslim Kosovo! This story does not surprise me at all. Serbs will nevr forget what international community did to their country and their people.
(Canadian Serb, 2 October 2011 16:56)
You can tell yor are rendering views of which you know nothing from your perch 4000 miles away. During the 3 years I was there I never saw one incident against Christians because they were Christian. Attacks against SErbian Churches were due to their Serbian connection not their Christian connection.
pre 12 godina
ICJ you ask about the list of Serbs who have been murdered and the murders remain unsolved. I can think of several right off the top of my head:
Swimming children shot in Gorazdevac. Unsolved.
12 farmers murdered in Gracko. Unsolved.
Elderly couple murdered in their home in 2009 in Gnjilane. Unsolved.
These are just three well known cases off the top of my head. How is this for starters?
Eagerly awaiting your answer.
pre 12 godina
"Go head I dare you to preach christianity in muslim Kosovo!...dead man walking!...lol..."
You really don't know what you are talking about. 10% of Albanians are Catholic. There are many Christina churches in Pristina.
The conflict in Kosovo is not, and never has been religious, but ethnic.
pre 12 godina
Serbs will continue to be killed by albanians and the quisling government in Belgrade will do nothing because . All of the remaining Serbs will be expelled from Kosovo and america will rejoice and the Tadic regime will squabble over the next gay pride marching route.
(Budimir, 2 October 2011 19:32)
Why does the gay parade have to be apart of this blog??!!! This proves that there"s limited tolerance withing Serbian comunity.
Gay, Croation, Mulsim, Albanian, Serb !!!! Who cares!!!??? All human beings for crying out loud.
I personally condemn any type of killings, regardless of the reason behind it,
But to teach your children to remember, not forget and retaliate.....hmmmmm....
pre 12 godina
I bet the Kosovo "Police" found the shooter(s). But since they were albanians killing serbs, they let them go with a warning and continue "looking" for the shooters.
(Steve B., 2 October 2011 17:06)
And I bet that many Serbs saw who murdered Enver Zymberi, but don't say a word because they silently condone it. That is why I don't give much on Serbian crocodile tears in that case here. Most likely it was anyway a criminal disput between two factions or persons. Who knows..
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To: JohnC
The only reason they were shot is they were not Muslim! It;s simple you are either with them or against them. No ethnic group can survive, grow and develop in Muslim Kosovo other than muslims themselves. Islam is a religion of assimilation! Always has been....
You can tell yor are rendering views of which you know nothing from your perch 4000 miles away. During the 3 years I was there I never saw one incident against Christians because they were Christian. Attacks against SErbian Churches were due to their Serbian connection not their Christian connection.
(truth, 2 October 2011 23:28)
Go head I dare you to preach christianity in muslim Kosovo!...dead man walking!...lol...
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@ CG:
After what you said you do realize that innocent Albanians have the right to not take s**t from certain people. I'd like to add by saying that my local brother-in-law when first residing in Fredericton dealt with Kosovar-Albanian refugees who arrived to Fredericton or the nearby town or village of Oromocto or another nearby town or village of Gagetown and when we discussed about the refugees, at one point he said something along the lines of that 10 year olds (he must be referring to 10 year ethnic Albanian boys at least) had to grow up really fast so therefore I wonder what he meant? Did he mean to tell me that some 10 year old ethnic Albanian kids or boys were trained to be child soldiers or at least learn how to take up arms to defend their families or themselves from the Serb army? If need be and although I had real life encounters with some Kosovar-Albanians I never had the opportunity to visit places that sheltered Kosovar refugees. Besides I was living in our birthplace ( the city of Bathurst) at the time so therefore Bathurst,New Brunswick was not equipped to shelter the refugees and it's also relatively far from Fredericton,Gagetown and Oromocto in New Brunswick.
pre 12 godina
"Go head I dare you to preach christianity in muslim Kosovo!...dead man walking!...lol..."
You really don't know what you are talking about. 10% of Albanians are Catholic. There are many Christina churches in Pristina.
The conflict in Kosovo is not, and never has been religious, but ethnic.
(Another American, 3 October 2011 16:25)
Aside from the new Catholic cathedral in Pristina, I can only thing of one other church and it is Serbian. I also do not think 10% is an accurate number - I think it is more around 3%. Either way, I do agree that the majority of the conflict was ethnic rather than religious, although the conflict did provide the opportunity for religious extremists to enter Kosovo and spread radicalism. The links between Arab terrorist groups fronting as charities are clear, as are the links to US contractor MPRI bringing in mujaheddin from Bosnia. The Srbica mosque and the blue mosque in South Mitro have been known for the radical elements, Bajram Aslani being one of the followers.
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Alban, I used my head, thats how im making an educated assumption. I dont think I need to waste my time filing through all the articles of cases of Serbs being murdered by albanians, you must be in denial or something. In fact, if you are so sure this wasn't ethnically motivated, how about you prove that. Enough of the BS by you albanians please.
pre 12 godina
hey, where's roberto to condemn this act?
pre 12 godina
Just another day in the life of a Serb living in Kosovo...
pre 12 godina
hey, where's roberto to condemn this act?
(frisco watch, 3 October 2011 22:48)
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He is busy with Sonja and Nada thinking of new ways to make Serbia look bad.
pre 12 godina
And I bet that many Serbs saw who murdered Enver Zymberi, but don't say a word because they silently condone it. That is why I don't give much on Serbian crocodile tears in that case here. Most likely it was anyway a criminal disput between two factions or persons. Who knows..
(JohnC., 3 October 2011 12:57)
There is a difference between an innocent man being shot leaving a restaurant and a terrorist firing automatic weapons at civilians being shot.
pre 12 godina
ICJ you ask about the list of Serbs who have been murdered and the murders remain unsolved. I can think of several right off the top of my head:
Swimming children shot in Gorazdevac. Unsolved.
12 farmers murdered in Gracko. Unsolved.
Elderly couple murdered in their home in 2009 in Gnjilane. Unsolved.
These are just three well known cases off the top of my head. How is this for starters?
Eagerly awaiting your answer.
(Englebert, 4 October 2011 15:49)
Well, you did not say “some murders” have not been solved. You said “no murders” have been solved. So you need to list all murders and show that none of them has been solved :)
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@SCP UK you're making an educated assumption are you? OK, i too am making an educated assumption...he wasn't killed by an albanian. if he was, it wasn't ethnically motivated. since you an't prove your 'educated assumption'...neither can I
pre 12 godina
Alban, I used my head, thats how im making an educated assumption.
(SCP UK, 3 October 2011 19:46)
And I used my head to make an educated assumption, which is opposite to yours. Let’s now exchange the resumes and find out who is more educated :)
I dont think I need to waste my time filing through all the articles of cases of Serbs being murdered by albanians, you must be in denial or something.
(SCP UK, 3 October 2011 19:46)
Articles are not evidence… Just read the B92 “article” about this case and you understand what I am saying :)
In fact, if you are so sure this wasn't ethnically motivated, how about you prove that. Enough of the BS by you albanians please.
(SCP UK, 3 October 2011 19:46)
This must be the most brilliant comment here. When I read this, I cried Eureka ! All murders in Kosovo, Serbia, Balkans or the world are ethnically motivated unless proved otherwise. Prosecutors job in all countries from now onwards in much easier. They no longer have to find a motive for a murder; they have it – ethnicity, unless somebody is able to prove beyond reasonable doubt the contrary. It is the accused now that has to prove that the crime he/she allegedly committed is not ethnically motivated. This is a revolution in criminal procedural law !
Uh yeeeeeeah, about Enver. There is information coming out of some EULEX sources that Enver was shot from the back at a distance of 10-15 meters. Additionally, the round(s) recovered from his body are the very same as ROSU uses. This is obviously second-hand information, but is worth considering.
Believe it or do not believe it, but the silence by EULEX on this issue is deafening. It may well have been a case of friendly fire.
(Wikileakz, 3 October 2011 14:35)
Uh yeeeeeeah, about Enver. There is information coming out of some EULEX sources that Enver was shot from above (most likely from the Moon) at a distance of 390-400B meters. Additionally, the round(s) recovered from his body are the very same as ALIEN uses. This is obviously one second-hand information, but is worth considering.
Believe it or do not believe it, but the silence by EULEX on this issue is deafening. It may well have been a case of godly fire.
Alban, not to be funny but no one knows the answer to this question because no murder of Serbs has been solved in the past decade.
(Englebert, 3 October 2011 12:29)
Can you please list all the murders of Serbs in Kosovo that have not been solved ?
I would put every penny I have on them being albanian, this is hardly rocket science when we judge the situation in Kosovo and all the many crimes that have occured against Serbs in the last few years.
(SCP UK, 3 October 2011 10:43)
There are fewer murders against Serbs in Kosovo, than Serbs in Serbia. I would put every penny I have on them (the murderers in Serbia) being albanian, this is hardly rocket science when we judge the situation in Serbia and all the many crimes that have occured against Serbs in the last few years.
Oh: and obviously that doesn't change the gravity of the crime...
(Martin, 3 October 2011 10:40)
Of course it does.
has it even been established that they were killed by albanians? were the motived purely ethnically motivated or was there something else behind? you jump to conclusions rather easily
(alban, 3 October 2011 10:10)
Oooooh, here is another one demanding evidence, proof, and BS like that. Isn’t it sufficient for you the expertise of the people in these forums ?!
Where's that "law and order" Serbs can be guaranteed in the independent dream state of "Kosova"?
(Balkan Anthropologist, 3 October 2011 00:11)
Where's that "law and order" Serbs can be guaranteed in the independent dream state of "Serbia" where the police can’t guarantee the right of minorities to gather in public, not even the right to do a fraction of what Serbs are allowed to do in Kosovo without anybody preventing them ?
pre 12 godina
Pure obfuscation. 42 comments so far and nobody even cares to mention the fact that there are no known motives for the attack nor is the assailants ethnicity been mentioned. All we know is that there was a shooting and a gentleman is dead and his son is wounded. This reminds me of when people were arguing about whether the world was flat or round. Stop ignoring the facts and make statements based off of fact and not your subjective racist ideas. I've come to understand that anyone using the catch phrases "albanians did organ trafficking" or "Kosovo je Srbija" is just projecting their own ignorance. Keep it up.
pre 12 godina
Well, you did not say “some murders” have not been solved. You said “no murders” have been solved. So you need to list all murders and show that none of them has been solved :)
(icj1, 6 October 2011 03:13)
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NO, actually it is you who needs to tell us which murders have been sold since you are trying to counter his statement.
That's how it works, so let's hear them.
pre 12 godina
One thing is sure as the amen in the church:
Never forget and never forgive,prepare yourself for the day x,the liberation day of our occupied southern province,that is what I teach my children!
pre 12 godina
One thing is sure as the amen in the church:
Never forget and never forgive,prepare yourself for the day x,the liberation day of our occupied southern province,that is what I teach my children!
(CG, 2 October 2011 14:27)
Unless that so called 'southern province" of your is located in Jupiter,otherwise, I suggest you stop waisting time with your teaching.
pre 12 godina
One thing is sure as the amen in the church:
Never forget and never forgive,prepare yourself for the day x,the liberation day of our occupied southern province,that is what I teach my children!
(CG, 2 October 2011 14:27)
Good to know. We albanians will be prepared then. You will not succed to occupy Kosovo again. If you were such an patriot then why don't you go to Kosovo and live there ?? If it's holy land to you then why don't pay with your life like albanian did to stay in Kosovo ??
pre 12 godina
Never forget and never forgive,prepare yourself for the day x,the liberation day of our occupied southern province,that is what I teach my children!
(CG, 2 October 2011 14:27)
seems your father prepared you for the day x, and that day have gone in 1998 – 1999 regarding southern province, but such day your children can enjoy somewhere in Vojvodina, Sandjak, or Presevo. It would be better to prepare your children for a better life at your home or in e place where they can live better. All wars in ex-Yugoslavia came because of parents like you. I hope your children will learn from your failure and think in different way. Something we in Balkans are missing for centuries.
pre 12 godina
cg,
Serbia doesn't have a "southern province".
RIP to the victim.
Thanks,
pre 12 godina
" One thing is sure as the amen in the church:
Never forget and never forgive,prepare yourself for the day x,the liberation day of our occupied southern province,that is what I teach my children! CG"
- Are you going to send your kids there to die?
Will you be a proud father then? Or, do you know that day x will never happen?
You're just an internet warrior, aren't you?
pre 12 godina
CG,
You teach your children to hate and to prepare for war?
The only thing as sure as amen is that you don't deserve to live in the western democracy you emigrated to.
pre 12 godina
Way to go Paps!!! That's a way to raise children!!!
To those/him that comitted this crime, I trully wish they/he rotten(s) in hell. This is one of the reasons why Balkans will never move forward.
If this guy is found, and I'm sure he will, one would only hope that he gets the worst punishment possible. Even the electric chair would not do any justice.
pre 12 godina
@CG:
that day will come.
pre 12 godina
There is no protection in muslim Kosovo for anyone that is non muslim! For this family it is too late, old man is dead and there will be no future for his son if he stays in muslim Kosovo! This story does not surprise me at all. Serbs will nevr forget what international community did to their country and their people.
pre 12 godina
I bet the Kosovo "Police" found the shooter(s). But since they were albanians killing serbs, they let them go with a warning and continue "looking" for the shooters.
pre 12 godina
Speaking Serbian around Albanians has been known to be fatal in Kosovo
pre 12 godina
Serbs will continue to be killed by albanians and the quisling government in Belgrade will do nothing because . All of the remaining Serbs will be expelled from Kosovo and america will rejoice and the Tadic regime will squabble over the next gay pride marching route.
pre 12 godina
RIP
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The life of a Serb is at any time endangered in Kosovo except for the Northern part of KiM.
So, why should "Prishtina" have any right or legitimacy to govern the Northern part, since "Prishtina" is not capable and willing to protect the lifes of Serbian individuals ?
pre 12 godina
I bet the Kosovo "Police" found the shooter(s). But since they were albanians killing serbs, they let them go with a warning and continue "looking" for the shooters.
(Steve B., 2 October 2011 17:06)
And I bet that many Serbs saw who murdered Enver Zymberi, but don't say a word because they silently condone it. That is why I don't give much on Serbian crocodile tears in that case here. Most likely it was anyway a criminal disput between two factions or persons. Who knows..
pre 12 godina
"There is no protection in muslim Kosovo for anyone that is non muslim! For this family it is too late, old man is dead and there will be no future for his son if he stays in muslim Kosovo! This story does not surprise me at all."
(Canadian Serb, 2 October 2011 16:56)
There's no protection at all in Kosovo. It's ruled by mafia clans, they define the laws in this nice country, and if you don't agree with them or, beware, even dare to testify against one of these clan leaders, you are killed, no matter if you are Serb, Albanian or Volcanian.
pre 12 godina
Sources say that all 10 eyewitnesses who blamed Kosovo Albans for murdering unfortunately committed suicide alltogether by shooting in the back of their own heads.
pre 12 godina
There is no protection in muslim Kosovo for anyone that is non muslim! For this family it is too late, old man is dead and there will be no future for his son if he stays in muslim Kosovo! This story does not surprise me at all. Serbs will nevr forget what international community did to their country and their people.
(Canadian Serb, 2 October 2011 16:56)
You can tell yor are rendering views of which you know nothing from your perch 4000 miles away. During the 3 years I was there I never saw one incident against Christians because they were Christian. Attacks against SErbian Churches were due to their Serbian connection not their Christian connection.
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@SCP OK...go ahead and prove it. you obviously know for a fact that this was a purely ethnically motivated crime...show me where it is that you read this? answer me this question, when was the last time a Serb was murdered in Kosovo by an ALbanian for the pure reason of being a Serb?
p.s. As for the Albanians in Preseva and Bujanovathey are also treated badly and suffer .Your people need to stop dodging this and admit they are treated badly purely because they are Albanians
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@ CG:
After what you said you do realize that innocent Albanians have the right to not take s**t from certain people. I'd like to add by saying that my local brother-in-law when first residing in Fredericton dealt with Kosovar-Albanian refugees who arrived to Fredericton or the nearby town or village of Oromocto or another nearby town or village of Gagetown and when we discussed about the refugees, at one point he said something along the lines of that 10 year olds (he must be referring to 10 year ethnic Albanian boys at least) had to grow up really fast so therefore I wonder what he meant? Did he mean to tell me that some 10 year old ethnic Albanian kids or boys were trained to be child soldiers or at least learn how to take up arms to defend their families or themselves from the Serb army? If need be and although I had real life encounters with some Kosovar-Albanians I never had the opportunity to visit places that sheltered Kosovar refugees. Besides I was living in our birthplace ( the city of Bathurst) at the time so therefore Bathurst,New Brunswick was not equipped to shelter the refugees and it's also relatively far from Fredericton,Gagetown and Oromocto in New Brunswick.
pre 12 godina
Where's that "law and order" Serbs can be guaranteed in the independent dream state of "Kosova"? KFOR is pointing its guns at the wrong people.
pre 12 godina
The liberation of occupied kosovo is inevitable. one day soon the decaying, feeble, corrupt united states will be incapable of protecting her mafiosi friends in kosovo-that is the day that the serb flag will once again fly in its proper place in the center of pristina.
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Alban,
I would put every penny I have on them being albanian, this is hardly rocket science when we judge the situation in Kosovo and all the many crimes that have occured against Serbs in the last few years. As for the other ethnic groups in Kosovo, they are also treated badly and suffer just like Serbs do, even if not to much of an extent as Serbs do. Your people need to stop dodging this and admit this was a cold blooded murder because they were Serbian, just like all the other many murders.
pre 12 godina
RIP.
pre 12 godina
All I see here is morons attacking CG for a statement he made, one which I happen to agree with, this is about a Serb being murdered yet again by an albanian, this is the tragic issue.
How many more Serbs need to be murdered before this mental world realises what kind of a place Kosovo is? Even with all the bitterness between Serbs and Croats, this kind of terror doesn't happen to Serbs living in Croatia. What is it with some albanians? It is as if killing Serbs has become a hobby.
pre 12 godina
has it even been established that they were killed by albanians? were the motived purely ethnically motivated or was there something else behind? you jump to conclusions rather easily
p.s. if it is established that the killers were albanian and did this heinous crime out of pure hatred, hope they get locked up for life
pre 12 godina
answer me this question, when was the last time a Serb was murdered in Kosovo by an ALbanian for the pure reason of being a Serb?
(alban, 3 October 2011 11:10)
Alban, not to be funny but no one knows the answer to this question because no murder of Serbs has been solved in the past decade. ALL of the murders of Serbs have gone unsolved, be they in Gracko, Gnjilanje or Gorazdevac. I am aware that you are not one of the radicals on here and I am not trying to be sarcastic, but these are the facts to the best of my knowledge. I am sure most average Kosovo Albanians do not even realize the pathetic clearance rate of these murders, but the Kosov Serbs certainly do.
pre 12 godina
Serbs will continue to be killed by albanians and the quisling government in Belgrade will do nothing because . All of the remaining Serbs will be expelled from Kosovo and america will rejoice and the Tadic regime will squabble over the next gay pride marching route.
(Budimir, 2 October 2011 19:32)
Why does the gay parade have to be apart of this blog??!!! This proves that there"s limited tolerance withing Serbian comunity.
Gay, Croation, Mulsim, Albanian, Serb !!!! Who cares!!!??? All human beings for crying out loud.
I personally condemn any type of killings, regardless of the reason behind it,
But to teach your children to remember, not forget and retaliate.....hmmmmm....
pre 12 godina
To: JohnC
The only reason they were shot is they were not Muslim! It;s simple you are either with them or against them. No ethnic group can survive, grow and develop in Muslim Kosovo other than muslims themselves. Islam is a religion of assimilation! Always has been....
You can tell yor are rendering views of which you know nothing from your perch 4000 miles away. During the 3 years I was there I never saw one incident against Christians because they were Christian. Attacks against SErbian Churches were due to their Serbian connection not their Christian connection.
(truth, 2 October 2011 23:28)
Go head I dare you to preach christianity in muslim Kosovo!...dead man walking!...lol...
pre 12 godina
@b92 - reconsider your headline. It is now confirmed that the victim was NOT a Serb but a CROAT! By just assuming that he is a Serb you bear part of the blame for igniting the situation on the ground... Thanks!
Oh: and obviously that doesn't change the gravity of the crime...
pre 12 godina
And I bet that many Serbs saw who murdered Enver Zymberi, but don't say a word because they silently condone it. That is why I don't give much on Serbian crocodile tears in that case here. Most likely it was anyway a criminal disput between two factions or persons. Who knows..
(JohnC., 3 October 2011 12:57)
Uh yeeeeeeah, about Enver. There is information coming out of some EULEX sources that Enver was shot from the back at a distance of 10-15 meters. Additionally, the round(s) recovered from his body are the very same as ROSU uses. This is obviously second-hand information, but is worth considering.
Believe it or do not believe it, but the silence by EULEX on this issue is deafening. It may well have been a case of friendly fire.
pre 12 godina
Alban, I used my head, thats how im making an educated assumption.
(SCP UK, 3 October 2011 19:46)
And I used my head to make an educated assumption, which is opposite to yours. Let’s now exchange the resumes and find out who is more educated :)
I dont think I need to waste my time filing through all the articles of cases of Serbs being murdered by albanians, you must be in denial or something.
(SCP UK, 3 October 2011 19:46)
Articles are not evidence… Just read the B92 “article” about this case and you understand what I am saying :)
In fact, if you are so sure this wasn't ethnically motivated, how about you prove that. Enough of the BS by you albanians please.
(SCP UK, 3 October 2011 19:46)
This must be the most brilliant comment here. When I read this, I cried Eureka ! All murders in Kosovo, Serbia, Balkans or the world are ethnically motivated unless proved otherwise. Prosecutors job in all countries from now onwards in much easier. They no longer have to find a motive for a murder; they have it – ethnicity, unless somebody is able to prove beyond reasonable doubt the contrary. It is the accused now that has to prove that the crime he/she allegedly committed is not ethnically motivated. This is a revolution in criminal procedural law !
Uh yeeeeeeah, about Enver. There is information coming out of some EULEX sources that Enver was shot from the back at a distance of 10-15 meters. Additionally, the round(s) recovered from his body are the very same as ROSU uses. This is obviously second-hand information, but is worth considering.
Believe it or do not believe it, but the silence by EULEX on this issue is deafening. It may well have been a case of friendly fire.
(Wikileakz, 3 October 2011 14:35)
Uh yeeeeeeah, about Enver. There is information coming out of some EULEX sources that Enver was shot from above (most likely from the Moon) at a distance of 390-400B meters. Additionally, the round(s) recovered from his body are the very same as ALIEN uses. This is obviously one second-hand information, but is worth considering.
Believe it or do not believe it, but the silence by EULEX on this issue is deafening. It may well have been a case of godly fire.
Alban, not to be funny but no one knows the answer to this question because no murder of Serbs has been solved in the past decade.
(Englebert, 3 October 2011 12:29)
Can you please list all the murders of Serbs in Kosovo that have not been solved ?
I would put every penny I have on them being albanian, this is hardly rocket science when we judge the situation in Kosovo and all the many crimes that have occured against Serbs in the last few years.
(SCP UK, 3 October 2011 10:43)
There are fewer murders against Serbs in Kosovo, than Serbs in Serbia. I would put every penny I have on them (the murderers in Serbia) being albanian, this is hardly rocket science when we judge the situation in Serbia and all the many crimes that have occured against Serbs in the last few years.
Oh: and obviously that doesn't change the gravity of the crime...
(Martin, 3 October 2011 10:40)
Of course it does.
has it even been established that they were killed by albanians? were the motived purely ethnically motivated or was there something else behind? you jump to conclusions rather easily
(alban, 3 October 2011 10:10)
Oooooh, here is another one demanding evidence, proof, and BS like that. Isn’t it sufficient for you the expertise of the people in these forums ?!
Where's that "law and order" Serbs can be guaranteed in the independent dream state of "Kosova"?
(Balkan Anthropologist, 3 October 2011 00:11)
Where's that "law and order" Serbs can be guaranteed in the independent dream state of "Serbia" where the police can’t guarantee the right of minorities to gather in public, not even the right to do a fraction of what Serbs are allowed to do in Kosovo without anybody preventing them ?
pre 12 godina
This is sad.
This only fuels the fire & tensions between Serbs and Albanians in Kosovo.
This poor guy saw his father murdered before his eyes :(
RIP
pre 12 godina
"Go head I dare you to preach christianity in muslim Kosovo!...dead man walking!...lol..."
You really don't know what you are talking about. 10% of Albanians are Catholic. There are many Christina churches in Pristina.
The conflict in Kosovo is not, and never has been religious, but ethnic.
pre 12 godina
Pure obfuscation. 42 comments so far and nobody even cares to mention the fact that there are no known motives for the attack nor is the assailants ethnicity been mentioned. All we know is that there was a shooting and a gentleman is dead and his son is wounded. This reminds me of when people were arguing about whether the world was flat or round. Stop ignoring the facts and make statements based off of fact and not your subjective racist ideas. I've come to understand that anyone using the catch phrases "albanians did organ trafficking" or "Kosovo je Srbija" is just projecting their own ignorance. Keep it up.
pre 12 godina
@SCP UK you're making an educated assumption are you? OK, i too am making an educated assumption...he wasn't killed by an albanian. if he was, it wasn't ethnically motivated. since you an't prove your 'educated assumption'...neither can I
pre 12 godina
It is sad what happend to this family
pre 12 godina
Alban, I used my head, thats how im making an educated assumption. I dont think I need to waste my time filing through all the articles of cases of Serbs being murdered by albanians, you must be in denial or something. In fact, if you are so sure this wasn't ethnically motivated, how about you prove that. Enough of the BS by you albanians please.
pre 12 godina
And I bet that many Serbs saw who murdered Enver Zymberi, but don't say a word because they silently condone it. That is why I don't give much on Serbian crocodile tears in that case here. Most likely it was anyway a criminal disput between two factions or persons. Who knows..
(JohnC., 3 October 2011 12:57)
There is a difference between an innocent man being shot leaving a restaurant and a terrorist firing automatic weapons at civilians being shot.
pre 12 godina
"Go head I dare you to preach christianity in muslim Kosovo!...dead man walking!...lol..."
You really don't know what you are talking about. 10% of Albanians are Catholic. There are many Christina churches in Pristina.
The conflict in Kosovo is not, and never has been religious, but ethnic.
(Another American, 3 October 2011 16:25)
Aside from the new Catholic cathedral in Pristina, I can only thing of one other church and it is Serbian. I also do not think 10% is an accurate number - I think it is more around 3%. Either way, I do agree that the majority of the conflict was ethnic rather than religious, although the conflict did provide the opportunity for religious extremists to enter Kosovo and spread radicalism. The links between Arab terrorist groups fronting as charities are clear, as are the links to US contractor MPRI bringing in mujaheddin from Bosnia. The Srbica mosque and the blue mosque in South Mitro have been known for the radical elements, Bajram Aslani being one of the followers.
pre 12 godina
hey, where's roberto to condemn this act?
pre 12 godina
Just another day in the life of a Serb living in Kosovo...
pre 12 godina
ICJ you ask about the list of Serbs who have been murdered and the murders remain unsolved. I can think of several right off the top of my head:
Swimming children shot in Gorazdevac. Unsolved.
12 farmers murdered in Gracko. Unsolved.
Elderly couple murdered in their home in 2009 in Gnjilane. Unsolved.
These are just three well known cases off the top of my head. How is this for starters?
Eagerly awaiting your answer.
pre 12 godina
hey, where's roberto to condemn this act?
(frisco watch, 3 October 2011 22:48)
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He is busy with Sonja and Nada thinking of new ways to make Serbia look bad.
pre 12 godina
ICJ you ask about the list of Serbs who have been murdered and the murders remain unsolved. I can think of several right off the top of my head:
Swimming children shot in Gorazdevac. Unsolved.
12 farmers murdered in Gracko. Unsolved.
Elderly couple murdered in their home in 2009 in Gnjilane. Unsolved.
These are just three well known cases off the top of my head. How is this for starters?
Eagerly awaiting your answer.
(Englebert, 4 October 2011 15:49)
Well, you did not say “some murders” have not been solved. You said “no murders” have been solved. So you need to list all murders and show that none of them has been solved :)
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Well, you did not say “some murders” have not been solved. You said “no murders” have been solved. So you need to list all murders and show that none of them has been solved :)
(icj1, 6 October 2011 03:13)
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NO, actually it is you who needs to tell us which murders have been sold since you are trying to counter his statement.
That's how it works, so let's hear them.
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