Patriarch says “shame parade” should not be held

Dude, you're in a friggin dress. You shouldn't be calling anyone 'queer'

"After coming into contact with a religious man I always feel I must wash my
hands" Fridrich Nitche

Wow, talk about being hypocritical. I am Serbian Eastern Orthodox and right now feel ashamed that my religion is not a religion of tolerance and love for ALL. I thought that the love of GOD was for everyone, but apparently only the old men that run the church can decide who GOD accepts and who he doesn't. Good luck explaining yourself Vladika when you go to meet your maker!

Danilo; I would consider your insults very carefully if I were you chum. Particularly when hiding behind an anonymous keyboard. Some of the hardest men in the world wear 'friggin dresses.' Scots guardsmen, Greek Evzons, Montenigrin hajduks, Afghan warriors, African tribesmen, I believe Karadjordje did to. I wouldn't suggest you say that to their faces either!

When I listen to christian priests today, I remember these words spoken by Christ: «You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.»

There are so many homosexuals in all churches, I sincerely think that their representatives should not point at others.

What a ridiculous comment! Very compassionate stance of someone who is supposed to represent God and nonjudgment isn't it? It is sad that Serbia still has so far to go . Also, if Belgrade can't manage and keep order for a parade, then I don't think they are ready to enter into any version of the modern world that I know and understand. Pretty inept if that's the case. In the US, all of these people would be fired if they can't or refuse to do their job effectively.

He can shake hands with the Mullahs in Iran - different religion, but same state of mind.

Danilo, you are such an ignorant and arrogant person to make such comments. Im sorry a dress??? God there must seriously be something wrong with you, as if all gays wear dresses anyway.

I see both of you have no respect for religion.The patriarch
is telling you these people are sinfull and refuse to acknolwledge those involved!

"Dude, you're in a friggin dress. You shouldn't be calling anyone 'queer'
(Danilo, 30 September 2011 16:22)"

Thus spake danilo. In america, catholic leaders are afraid to criticize the peter pans because some of their clergy march in these types of parades. The Patriarch is a true Christian, but danilo wouldn't be able to recognize a true Christian.

As always in Serbia Patriarchs word is law, its about time you separate state from religion!

The old man has gone senile. I suggest to change the government in Serb orthodox church, ASAP.

Beautiful comments from Danilo and "free your mind". The total lack of Christian love and humility in the Serbian church is why I will no longer step foot in one.

How is such an un-Christian man the head of a Christian church?

Marching around in silly clothes on the basis of some invented belief system is as unjustified as any other form of parade. I would not seek to ban the church and I do respect that people have faith for reasons that they consider good. However, religions cannot guarantee the existence of God (that's why they require you to have 'faith') and I personally think religion is a self deception and therefore a 'shame' against reason.

Dressing up in silly clothes and parading around is a human activity based on personal internally held beliefs.

Should a ban on all parades include religious processions?

Actually this statement is counterproductive in a time when people are feeling increasingly alienated by organised religion and church attendance is down.

Many feel that the church doesn't in any way reflect the society we now live in and thus no longer identify with it. So statements like these only accelerate the downfall of the church.

Should a ban on all parades include religious processions?

Bob, that depends, to ban religious processions according to the government, all one needs to do is to get together enough thugs to threaten them and the procession will be cancelled.

Still, maybe its not such a bad statement, Lenard agrees with it!

Patriarch Irinej thinking now is the Serbian Orthodox clergy to have the parade so the Serb people can pay homage to them instead and more often the better. Definition of HOMAGE

a : a feudal ceremony by which a man acknowledges himself the vassal of a lord b : the relationship between a feudal lord and his vassal c : an act done or payment made in meeting the obligations of vassalage
2
a : expression of high regard : respect —often used with pay b : something that shows respect or attests to the worth or influence of another.

Why is this parade necessary? If you are gay then you are gay. Why parade about it? I'm heterosexual. You don't see me dress up in a leather dress with an earring hanging from my ding dong and walking down the street shouting out loud that I'm heterosexual. The gay community, in Serbia and elswerer, only want these parades to get on ordinary peoples nerves. Ban them, now and forever.

It is the patriarch´s right to speak the truth, to remind us of good Christian values, the love of the family and God. Especially in times of constant attack´s from "the other side" in a country occupied by foreign media conglomerates, a western unelected quisling regime and it´s dictator desperately trying to impose these foreign ego-maniac life styles upon us.

Lead on Patriarch, speak these ancient truths and let them be heard.

This is the real desease that plagues Serbia and every other YU country:religeon.How discusting they can be.Serbia is not a Christian,or a muslim or a hindu,or a Jewish nation,it is a democratic one.I cant wait for the day when secularism and humanism will take care of scum like this.He speaks for Serbia!ha,if he wants to do something for the country then why does'nt he go to northern Kosovo with the people at the barricades.When The Croatian army was expelling hundreds of thousands of Serbs and killing civilians en mass in 95,these guys were the first to leave!But yeah why would they esnt to stay in conflicts which they helped instigate.

with love for Serbia and Serbian people, with an orthodox heart - and mind - I for one reject this patriarch's incendiary and stupid comments - as fatuous as they are unjust - Patriarch Pavle would never stoop so low and allow such intolerant remarks pass for holy tradition - Irinje has transgressed his mandate, position and authenticity - this is pure hate speech aimed at nationalist traitors and stooges.

What a ridiculous comment! Very compassionate stance of someone who is supposed to represent God and nonjudgment isn't it? It is sad that Serbia still has so far to go . Also, if Belgrade can't manage and keep order for a parade, then I don't think they are ready to enter into any version of the modern world that I know and understand. Pretty inept if that's the case. In the US, all of these people would be fired if they can't or refuse to do their job effectively.
(SD, 30 September 2011 21:21)

Go read the bible's stance on Homosexuals, and while your at it, read those of the Pope, the Archbishop of Cantebury, and some islamic leaders.

Religious bigotery obviously exist in Serbia as well as the rest of the Balkans.I would hope that freedom and liberty also exist.The gay pride parade is a good example of freedom from religion.
If your government and people wish to join Europe show your basic humanity and go out of your way to support gay rights as it is the only civilized thing to do.
Throw off the shackles of these religious fools!
Myles MacLean

@SD,

Thank GOD that Serbia is NOT the US, or anything like it.

The US was built on slavery and racism.

Why is this parade necessary? If you are gay then you are gay. Why parade about it? I'm heterosexual. You don't see me dress up in a leather dress with an earring hanging from my ding dong and walking down the street shouting out loud that I'm heterosexual. The gay community, in Serbia and elswerer, only want these parades to get on ordinary peoples nerves. Ban them, now and forever.
(MikeC, 1 October 2011 08:56)

and you are still wondering why you lost Kosovo?

Democracy is rule by the majority. The quality of democracy is measured by how its majority threats its minorities.

While at it, he should have banned the word 'tolerance' from the dictionary. After all, it is probably also among those evil Western degenerate concepts that have been tried imposed against medieval tradition and thus time-honored values...

OMG!! Religion!!! What a farce....organized confusion at its best.

Without religion, we'd have good people doing good things, and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

--“Our city and our public are this year being shaken by the issue of holding of so-called ‘shame parade’. I would with much justification call this plague ‘shame parade’, which drags human dignity through mud and steps on the holiness of life and family,” the patriarch said in a statement.--

I'm so sorry for offending you, patriarch.
roberto frisco

Dude, you're in a friggin dress. You shouldn't be calling anyone 'queer'

"After coming into contact with a religious man I always feel I must wash my
hands" Fridrich Nitche

Wow, talk about being hypocritical. I am Serbian Eastern Orthodox and right now feel ashamed that my religion is not a religion of tolerance and love for ALL. I thought that the love of GOD was for everyone, but apparently only the old men that run the church can decide who GOD accepts and who he doesn't. Good luck explaining yourself Vladika when you go to meet your maker!

When I listen to christian priests today, I remember these words spoken by Christ: «You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.»

There are so many homosexuals in all churches, I sincerely think that their representatives should not point at others.

Beautiful comments from Danilo and "free your mind". The total lack of Christian love and humility in the Serbian church is why I will no longer step foot in one.

What a ridiculous comment! Very compassionate stance of someone who is supposed to represent God and nonjudgment isn't it? It is sad that Serbia still has so far to go . Also, if Belgrade can't manage and keep order for a parade, then I don't think they are ready to enter into any version of the modern world that I know and understand. Pretty inept if that's the case. In the US, all of these people would be fired if they can't or refuse to do their job effectively.

Patriarch Irinej thinking now is the Serbian Orthodox clergy to have the parade so the Serb people can pay homage to them instead and more often the better. Definition of HOMAGE

a : a feudal ceremony by which a man acknowledges himself the vassal of a lord b : the relationship between a feudal lord and his vassal c : an act done or payment made in meeting the obligations of vassalage
2
a : expression of high regard : respect —often used with pay b : something that shows respect or attests to the worth or influence of another.

Danilo, you are such an ignorant and arrogant person to make such comments. Im sorry a dress??? God there must seriously be something wrong with you, as if all gays wear dresses anyway.

The old man has gone senile. I suggest to change the government in Serb orthodox church, ASAP.

I see both of you have no respect for religion.The patriarch
is telling you these people are sinfull and refuse to acknolwledge those involved!

"Dude, you're in a friggin dress. You shouldn't be calling anyone 'queer'
(Danilo, 30 September 2011 16:22)"

Thus spake danilo. In america, catholic leaders are afraid to criticize the peter pans because some of their clergy march in these types of parades. The Patriarch is a true Christian, but danilo wouldn't be able to recognize a true Christian.

Marching around in silly clothes on the basis of some invented belief system is as unjustified as any other form of parade. I would not seek to ban the church and I do respect that people have faith for reasons that they consider good. However, religions cannot guarantee the existence of God (that's why they require you to have 'faith') and I personally think religion is a self deception and therefore a 'shame' against reason.

Dressing up in silly clothes and parading around is a human activity based on personal internally held beliefs.

Should a ban on all parades include religious processions?

Danilo; I would consider your insults very carefully if I were you chum. Particularly when hiding behind an anonymous keyboard. Some of the hardest men in the world wear 'friggin dresses.' Scots guardsmen, Greek Evzons, Montenigrin hajduks, Afghan warriors, African tribesmen, I believe Karadjordje did to. I wouldn't suggest you say that to their faces either!

As always in Serbia Patriarchs word is law, its about time you separate state from religion!

He can shake hands with the Mullahs in Iran - different religion, but same state of mind.

While at it, he should have banned the word 'tolerance' from the dictionary. After all, it is probably also among those evil Western degenerate concepts that have been tried imposed against medieval tradition and thus time-honored values...

with love for Serbia and Serbian people, with an orthodox heart - and mind - I for one reject this patriarch's incendiary and stupid comments - as fatuous as they are unjust - Patriarch Pavle would never stoop so low and allow such intolerant remarks pass for holy tradition - Irinje has transgressed his mandate, position and authenticity - this is pure hate speech aimed at nationalist traitors and stooges.

Religious bigotery obviously exist in Serbia as well as the rest of the Balkans.I would hope that freedom and liberty also exist.The gay pride parade is a good example of freedom from religion.
If your government and people wish to join Europe show your basic humanity and go out of your way to support gay rights as it is the only civilized thing to do.
Throw off the shackles of these religious fools!
Myles MacLean

How is such an un-Christian man the head of a Christian church?

--“Our city and our public are this year being shaken by the issue of holding of so-called ‘shame parade’. I would with much justification call this plague ‘shame parade’, which drags human dignity through mud and steps on the holiness of life and family,” the patriarch said in a statement.--

I'm so sorry for offending you, patriarch.
roberto frisco

It is the patriarch´s right to speak the truth, to remind us of good Christian values, the love of the family and God. Especially in times of constant attack´s from "the other side" in a country occupied by foreign media conglomerates, a western unelected quisling regime and it´s dictator desperately trying to impose these foreign ego-maniac life styles upon us.

Lead on Patriarch, speak these ancient truths and let them be heard.

Why is this parade necessary? If you are gay then you are gay. Why parade about it? I'm heterosexual. You don't see me dress up in a leather dress with an earring hanging from my ding dong and walking down the street shouting out loud that I'm heterosexual. The gay community, in Serbia and elswerer, only want these parades to get on ordinary peoples nerves. Ban them, now and forever.

This is the real desease that plagues Serbia and every other YU country:religeon.How discusting they can be.Serbia is not a Christian,or a muslim or a hindu,or a Jewish nation,it is a democratic one.I cant wait for the day when secularism and humanism will take care of scum like this.He speaks for Serbia!ha,if he wants to do something for the country then why does'nt he go to northern Kosovo with the people at the barricades.When The Croatian army was expelling hundreds of thousands of Serbs and killing civilians en mass in 95,these guys were the first to leave!But yeah why would they esnt to stay in conflicts which they helped instigate.

What a ridiculous comment! Very compassionate stance of someone who is supposed to represent God and nonjudgment isn't it? It is sad that Serbia still has so far to go . Also, if Belgrade can't manage and keep order for a parade, then I don't think they are ready to enter into any version of the modern world that I know and understand. Pretty inept if that's the case. In the US, all of these people would be fired if they can't or refuse to do their job effectively.
(SD, 30 September 2011 21:21)

Go read the bible's stance on Homosexuals, and while your at it, read those of the Pope, the Archbishop of Cantebury, and some islamic leaders.

Actually this statement is counterproductive in a time when people are feeling increasingly alienated by organised religion and church attendance is down.

Many feel that the church doesn't in any way reflect the society we now live in and thus no longer identify with it. So statements like these only accelerate the downfall of the church.

Should a ban on all parades include religious processions?

Bob, that depends, to ban religious processions according to the government, all one needs to do is to get together enough thugs to threaten them and the procession will be cancelled.

Still, maybe its not such a bad statement, Lenard agrees with it!

@SD,

Thank GOD that Serbia is NOT the US, or anything like it.

The US was built on slavery and racism.

Why is this parade necessary? If you are gay then you are gay. Why parade about it? I'm heterosexual. You don't see me dress up in a leather dress with an earring hanging from my ding dong and walking down the street shouting out loud that I'm heterosexual. The gay community, in Serbia and elswerer, only want these parades to get on ordinary peoples nerves. Ban them, now and forever.
(MikeC, 1 October 2011 08:56)

and you are still wondering why you lost Kosovo?

Democracy is rule by the majority. The quality of democracy is measured by how its majority threats its minorities.

OMG!! Religion!!! What a farce....organized confusion at its best.

Without religion, we'd have good people doing good things, and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.