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Monday, 26.09.2011.

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Daily: Putin to visit Serbia in October

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin is planning on visiting Belgrade for the second time this year, daily Danas has learned from top Serbian officials.

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Michael

pre 12 godina

Ari Gold, I applaud you for your intelligent and insightful comments on this topic and in general in this forum. Your recitation of the Tito era is absolutely right, and Serbs need to remember it. I am further very frustrated with my fellow Serbs in Belgrade who can't get it into their heads that development of economic, political and military relations with BRIC and NAM should be their number one foreign policy priority. The EU and NATO are playing Serbia like a cheap violin, and the elite in Belgrade are acting like fools on their knees regarding Brussels. Asia and South America represent the future of ecomomic growth anyway.

Milan

pre 12 godina

Ari Gold,

Thank you for the good description of the Tito era. But then what would you have expected from a Croat who fought on the site of Austria-Hungary and who was mot likely a German spy and/or on the CIA payroll.

Think about it.

pre 12 godina

None of you really have a clue as to the purpose of this visit, do you.
In the last few days the representative of Russia walked out of a meeting frustrated with Serbs over Kosovo. Instead of the media praising him as the saviour that will bring renewed ultraSerb nationalism to the country, he was portrayed more like a fool.
Such actions require that Serbia be reminded who is in charge and that Russia will no longer be embarassed by Serbia over Kosovo.

Serbia will have to end this matter immediately. Putin's Russia will not be perceived as a weak Russia. The Serbia-Kosovo conflict will be settled prior to Putin assuming front stage status.

sj

pre 12 godina

So, these two already know the outcome of the election months before elections are due.
Only in Russia!!!
(Kosova-USA, 26 September 2011 10:07)


I wonder who is going to win the next US presidential elections? Will it be a republican or democrat? Both have had wins for the last 235 years – only in the US and they call this democracy.

rote

pre 12 godina

Vardarska Serb : Thaci and co. WANT to see Nikolic win …
*** If it is really so then I’m ready to join this guy “and co.”

Paul Barness : Mr. Putin's visit has to do with the election campaign in Serbia - not Russia!
*** Definitely he cares about Serbia as a potential ally if Otporians say good bye and run to their masters.

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

@Vardarska Serb

I respectfully disagree with you. Not that I am very fond of Nikolic my self either but you seem to think that only a subservient president will save Serbia from some apocalypse. Tadic and his gang have had 10 years to turn Serbia into something more than it is today and even have the means to do it but simply wont. Tadic drains his resources and public funding into joining the EU, and EU that is sinking by the day and even citizens inside the EU no longer wish to be apart of it. This 'EU has no alternative' created by Tadic has been a complete failure and it should really tell you something when EU citizens from all over the continent are outside protesting their subservient government to Brussels every single day.

You call him our new Tito, HA. I do agree with you that he is, but being Tito is nothing to be proud of. He let Albanians come into Kosovo and gave them a demographic majority, then gave Kosovo and Vojvodina almost republic status, however the Serbs in Croatia and Bosnia were not able to enjoy the same rights, built a separate Montenegrin identity and forcefully moved Serbs who declared themselves as Serbs from Macedonia into Serbia. Not to mention that he accumulated a unpayable debt from the West in return of sticking it in the eye to the Soviet Union. This whole "we lived great in Tito's time" do not understand economics.

If someone gives me credit to buy a mansion and a Ferrari and I have it for 5 years until I can no longer pay off either one, am I supposed to look back and say "wow those were great years, I was really smart back then" no! It's called living beyond your means. Tito built Yugoslavia off the backs of Serbs mostly, accumulated this debt from the USA and Western Europe, and when the Berlin Wall fell down there was no need to help Yugoslavia anymore and they wanted the money back fast, when we couldn't come up with it they disintegrated the country.

But then who had to pay for that? The demographic majority! The Serbs! The ones who built Yugoslavia from nothing had to pay for his cowardly actions, where was he? Buried in the ground being hailed as a hero of the "good times".

Anyone can take out credit, those who glorify the Tito times have no understanding of how economics and finance works. Tito was Serbophobic and have 0 fiscal responsibility.

Anyway, Putin we are looking forward to seeing you!

Vardarska Serb

pre 12 godina

@New Zealander

I wouldn't want to see Nikolic win the elections. He would throw our country in another war over Kosovo. The era of wars is over for Serbia, we must usher in the era of smart diplomacy to be victorious. I've said it before, Boris Tadic, he is our Tito, he will bring peace to the Balkans, and restoring our status as regional leader all at the same time. Thaci and co. WANT to see Nikolic win, trust me. A Nikolic victory would be a defeat for Serbia, and it would be a defeat we probably would never recover from.

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

2nd time in 7 months...interesting.

But wait! I thought the South Stream really isn't happening and Russia could do nothing for Serbia.

Some how only Germany, UK, USA and France are capable of helping Serbia, seeing as they already helped us with bombs in the 90's. Emerging economies like Brazil, India and China would simply have no reason to invest in Serbia. Serbia is only a country of interest to the ones who tried to destroy it apparently.

Well sure, when you have a puppet government who drains the countries resources first for the EU and then whatever is left over, Serbia's traditional allies can deal with. It will really surprise a lot of people, and even a lot of Serbs living in Serbia how many opportunities lie with the emerging economies and how interested they really would be in Serbia, if the Serbian Government focused on building ties with these countries as much as they do the EU.

The likes of Vejvoda, Pescanik and Co. will never tell you that though. Why when they are still being paid by the very people who work against our interest to spew more garbage. When this regime finally falls, on the very first day the new Serbian government should ban any foreign funded NGO from running in Serbia. We would see where Vejvoda would get his funding from..no one because only foreigners are paying him as he is working for foreign interests. Meanwhile the likes of Dveri Srpske would still be around as they are funded BY Serbian people FOR Serbian people.

Anyway, happy to have you back Prime Minister Putin. I am glad you enjoyed your stay last time you were here!

Thanks,

Strong supporter of but not affiliated with Dveri Srpske and one of the many enthusiastic Serbs ahead of Prime Minister Putin's visit

New Zealander

pre 12 godina

According to latest information from Moscow, current Russian President Dmitry Medvedev will in March become a prime minister while Putin will take over the presidential position.

So, these two already know the outcome of the election months before elections are due.
Only in Russia!!!
(Kosova-USA, 26 September 2011 10:07)

We know the probable outcome of the elections in most countries before they happen, This is a result of an idea called the "Opinion Polls" they tell us that John Key is going to be reelected in NZ, that Sarkozy is on the way out, that Obama's going to get a 2nd term , and that Nikolic is going to replace Tadic.

Kosova-USA

pre 12 godina

According to latest information from Moscow, current Russian President Dmitry Medvedev will in March become a prime minister while Putin will take over the presidential position.

So, these two already know the outcome of the election months before elections are due.
Only in Russia!!!

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

2nd time in 7 months...interesting.

But wait! I thought the South Stream really isn't happening and Russia could do nothing for Serbia.

Some how only Germany, UK, USA and France are capable of helping Serbia, seeing as they already helped us with bombs in the 90's. Emerging economies like Brazil, India and China would simply have no reason to invest in Serbia. Serbia is only a country of interest to the ones who tried to destroy it apparently.

Well sure, when you have a puppet government who drains the countries resources first for the EU and then whatever is left over, Serbia's traditional allies can deal with. It will really surprise a lot of people, and even a lot of Serbs living in Serbia how many opportunities lie with the emerging economies and how interested they really would be in Serbia, if the Serbian Government focused on building ties with these countries as much as they do the EU.

The likes of Vejvoda, Pescanik and Co. will never tell you that though. Why when they are still being paid by the very people who work against our interest to spew more garbage. When this regime finally falls, on the very first day the new Serbian government should ban any foreign funded NGO from running in Serbia. We would see where Vejvoda would get his funding from..no one because only foreigners are paying him as he is working for foreign interests. Meanwhile the likes of Dveri Srpske would still be around as they are funded BY Serbian people FOR Serbian people.

Anyway, happy to have you back Prime Minister Putin. I am glad you enjoyed your stay last time you were here!

Thanks,

Strong supporter of but not affiliated with Dveri Srpske and one of the many enthusiastic Serbs ahead of Prime Minister Putin's visit

New Zealander

pre 12 godina

According to latest information from Moscow, current Russian President Dmitry Medvedev will in March become a prime minister while Putin will take over the presidential position.

So, these two already know the outcome of the election months before elections are due.
Only in Russia!!!
(Kosova-USA, 26 September 2011 10:07)

We know the probable outcome of the elections in most countries before they happen, This is a result of an idea called the "Opinion Polls" they tell us that John Key is going to be reelected in NZ, that Sarkozy is on the way out, that Obama's going to get a 2nd term , and that Nikolic is going to replace Tadic.

Kosova-USA

pre 12 godina

According to latest information from Moscow, current Russian President Dmitry Medvedev will in March become a prime minister while Putin will take over the presidential position.

So, these two already know the outcome of the election months before elections are due.
Only in Russia!!!

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

@Vardarska Serb

I respectfully disagree with you. Not that I am very fond of Nikolic my self either but you seem to think that only a subservient president will save Serbia from some apocalypse. Tadic and his gang have had 10 years to turn Serbia into something more than it is today and even have the means to do it but simply wont. Tadic drains his resources and public funding into joining the EU, and EU that is sinking by the day and even citizens inside the EU no longer wish to be apart of it. This 'EU has no alternative' created by Tadic has been a complete failure and it should really tell you something when EU citizens from all over the continent are outside protesting their subservient government to Brussels every single day.

You call him our new Tito, HA. I do agree with you that he is, but being Tito is nothing to be proud of. He let Albanians come into Kosovo and gave them a demographic majority, then gave Kosovo and Vojvodina almost republic status, however the Serbs in Croatia and Bosnia were not able to enjoy the same rights, built a separate Montenegrin identity and forcefully moved Serbs who declared themselves as Serbs from Macedonia into Serbia. Not to mention that he accumulated a unpayable debt from the West in return of sticking it in the eye to the Soviet Union. This whole "we lived great in Tito's time" do not understand economics.

If someone gives me credit to buy a mansion and a Ferrari and I have it for 5 years until I can no longer pay off either one, am I supposed to look back and say "wow those were great years, I was really smart back then" no! It's called living beyond your means. Tito built Yugoslavia off the backs of Serbs mostly, accumulated this debt from the USA and Western Europe, and when the Berlin Wall fell down there was no need to help Yugoslavia anymore and they wanted the money back fast, when we couldn't come up with it they disintegrated the country.

But then who had to pay for that? The demographic majority! The Serbs! The ones who built Yugoslavia from nothing had to pay for his cowardly actions, where was he? Buried in the ground being hailed as a hero of the "good times".

Anyone can take out credit, those who glorify the Tito times have no understanding of how economics and finance works. Tito was Serbophobic and have 0 fiscal responsibility.

Anyway, Putin we are looking forward to seeing you!

Vardarska Serb

pre 12 godina

@New Zealander

I wouldn't want to see Nikolic win the elections. He would throw our country in another war over Kosovo. The era of wars is over for Serbia, we must usher in the era of smart diplomacy to be victorious. I've said it before, Boris Tadic, he is our Tito, he will bring peace to the Balkans, and restoring our status as regional leader all at the same time. Thaci and co. WANT to see Nikolic win, trust me. A Nikolic victory would be a defeat for Serbia, and it would be a defeat we probably would never recover from.

rote

pre 12 godina

Vardarska Serb : Thaci and co. WANT to see Nikolic win …
*** If it is really so then I’m ready to join this guy “and co.”

Paul Barness : Mr. Putin's visit has to do with the election campaign in Serbia - not Russia!
*** Definitely he cares about Serbia as a potential ally if Otporians say good bye and run to their masters.

Milan

pre 12 godina

Ari Gold,

Thank you for the good description of the Tito era. But then what would you have expected from a Croat who fought on the site of Austria-Hungary and who was mot likely a German spy and/or on the CIA payroll.

Think about it.

pre 12 godina

None of you really have a clue as to the purpose of this visit, do you.
In the last few days the representative of Russia walked out of a meeting frustrated with Serbs over Kosovo. Instead of the media praising him as the saviour that will bring renewed ultraSerb nationalism to the country, he was portrayed more like a fool.
Such actions require that Serbia be reminded who is in charge and that Russia will no longer be embarassed by Serbia over Kosovo.

Serbia will have to end this matter immediately. Putin's Russia will not be perceived as a weak Russia. The Serbia-Kosovo conflict will be settled prior to Putin assuming front stage status.

sj

pre 12 godina

So, these two already know the outcome of the election months before elections are due.
Only in Russia!!!
(Kosova-USA, 26 September 2011 10:07)


I wonder who is going to win the next US presidential elections? Will it be a republican or democrat? Both have had wins for the last 235 years – only in the US and they call this democracy.

Michael

pre 12 godina

Ari Gold, I applaud you for your intelligent and insightful comments on this topic and in general in this forum. Your recitation of the Tito era is absolutely right, and Serbs need to remember it. I am further very frustrated with my fellow Serbs in Belgrade who can't get it into their heads that development of economic, political and military relations with BRIC and NAM should be their number one foreign policy priority. The EU and NATO are playing Serbia like a cheap violin, and the elite in Belgrade are acting like fools on their knees regarding Brussels. Asia and South America represent the future of ecomomic growth anyway.

Kosova-USA

pre 12 godina

According to latest information from Moscow, current Russian President Dmitry Medvedev will in March become a prime minister while Putin will take over the presidential position.

So, these two already know the outcome of the election months before elections are due.
Only in Russia!!!

Vardarska Serb

pre 12 godina

@New Zealander

I wouldn't want to see Nikolic win the elections. He would throw our country in another war over Kosovo. The era of wars is over for Serbia, we must usher in the era of smart diplomacy to be victorious. I've said it before, Boris Tadic, he is our Tito, he will bring peace to the Balkans, and restoring our status as regional leader all at the same time. Thaci and co. WANT to see Nikolic win, trust me. A Nikolic victory would be a defeat for Serbia, and it would be a defeat we probably would never recover from.

New Zealander

pre 12 godina

According to latest information from Moscow, current Russian President Dmitry Medvedev will in March become a prime minister while Putin will take over the presidential position.

So, these two already know the outcome of the election months before elections are due.
Only in Russia!!!
(Kosova-USA, 26 September 2011 10:07)

We know the probable outcome of the elections in most countries before they happen, This is a result of an idea called the "Opinion Polls" they tell us that John Key is going to be reelected in NZ, that Sarkozy is on the way out, that Obama's going to get a 2nd term , and that Nikolic is going to replace Tadic.

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

2nd time in 7 months...interesting.

But wait! I thought the South Stream really isn't happening and Russia could do nothing for Serbia.

Some how only Germany, UK, USA and France are capable of helping Serbia, seeing as they already helped us with bombs in the 90's. Emerging economies like Brazil, India and China would simply have no reason to invest in Serbia. Serbia is only a country of interest to the ones who tried to destroy it apparently.

Well sure, when you have a puppet government who drains the countries resources first for the EU and then whatever is left over, Serbia's traditional allies can deal with. It will really surprise a lot of people, and even a lot of Serbs living in Serbia how many opportunities lie with the emerging economies and how interested they really would be in Serbia, if the Serbian Government focused on building ties with these countries as much as they do the EU.

The likes of Vejvoda, Pescanik and Co. will never tell you that though. Why when they are still being paid by the very people who work against our interest to spew more garbage. When this regime finally falls, on the very first day the new Serbian government should ban any foreign funded NGO from running in Serbia. We would see where Vejvoda would get his funding from..no one because only foreigners are paying him as he is working for foreign interests. Meanwhile the likes of Dveri Srpske would still be around as they are funded BY Serbian people FOR Serbian people.

Anyway, happy to have you back Prime Minister Putin. I am glad you enjoyed your stay last time you were here!

Thanks,

Strong supporter of but not affiliated with Dveri Srpske and one of the many enthusiastic Serbs ahead of Prime Minister Putin's visit

rote

pre 12 godina

Vardarska Serb : Thaci and co. WANT to see Nikolic win …
*** If it is really so then I’m ready to join this guy “and co.”

Paul Barness : Mr. Putin's visit has to do with the election campaign in Serbia - not Russia!
*** Definitely he cares about Serbia as a potential ally if Otporians say good bye and run to their masters.

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

@Vardarska Serb

I respectfully disagree with you. Not that I am very fond of Nikolic my self either but you seem to think that only a subservient president will save Serbia from some apocalypse. Tadic and his gang have had 10 years to turn Serbia into something more than it is today and even have the means to do it but simply wont. Tadic drains his resources and public funding into joining the EU, and EU that is sinking by the day and even citizens inside the EU no longer wish to be apart of it. This 'EU has no alternative' created by Tadic has been a complete failure and it should really tell you something when EU citizens from all over the continent are outside protesting their subservient government to Brussels every single day.

You call him our new Tito, HA. I do agree with you that he is, but being Tito is nothing to be proud of. He let Albanians come into Kosovo and gave them a demographic majority, then gave Kosovo and Vojvodina almost republic status, however the Serbs in Croatia and Bosnia were not able to enjoy the same rights, built a separate Montenegrin identity and forcefully moved Serbs who declared themselves as Serbs from Macedonia into Serbia. Not to mention that he accumulated a unpayable debt from the West in return of sticking it in the eye to the Soviet Union. This whole "we lived great in Tito's time" do not understand economics.

If someone gives me credit to buy a mansion and a Ferrari and I have it for 5 years until I can no longer pay off either one, am I supposed to look back and say "wow those were great years, I was really smart back then" no! It's called living beyond your means. Tito built Yugoslavia off the backs of Serbs mostly, accumulated this debt from the USA and Western Europe, and when the Berlin Wall fell down there was no need to help Yugoslavia anymore and they wanted the money back fast, when we couldn't come up with it they disintegrated the country.

But then who had to pay for that? The demographic majority! The Serbs! The ones who built Yugoslavia from nothing had to pay for his cowardly actions, where was he? Buried in the ground being hailed as a hero of the "good times".

Anyone can take out credit, those who glorify the Tito times have no understanding of how economics and finance works. Tito was Serbophobic and have 0 fiscal responsibility.

Anyway, Putin we are looking forward to seeing you!

Milan

pre 12 godina

Ari Gold,

Thank you for the good description of the Tito era. But then what would you have expected from a Croat who fought on the site of Austria-Hungary and who was mot likely a German spy and/or on the CIA payroll.

sj

pre 12 godina

So, these two already know the outcome of the election months before elections are due.
Only in Russia!!!
(Kosova-USA, 26 September 2011 10:07)


I wonder who is going to win the next US presidential elections? Will it be a republican or democrat? Both have had wins for the last 235 years – only in the US and they call this democracy.

Think about it.

pre 12 godina

None of you really have a clue as to the purpose of this visit, do you.
In the last few days the representative of Russia walked out of a meeting frustrated with Serbs over Kosovo. Instead of the media praising him as the saviour that will bring renewed ultraSerb nationalism to the country, he was portrayed more like a fool.
Such actions require that Serbia be reminded who is in charge and that Russia will no longer be embarassed by Serbia over Kosovo.

Serbia will have to end this matter immediately. Putin's Russia will not be perceived as a weak Russia. The Serbia-Kosovo conflict will be settled prior to Putin assuming front stage status.

Michael

pre 12 godina

Ari Gold, I applaud you for your intelligent and insightful comments on this topic and in general in this forum. Your recitation of the Tito era is absolutely right, and Serbs need to remember it. I am further very frustrated with my fellow Serbs in Belgrade who can't get it into their heads that development of economic, political and military relations with BRIC and NAM should be their number one foreign policy priority. The EU and NATO are playing Serbia like a cheap violin, and the elite in Belgrade are acting like fools on their knees regarding Brussels. Asia and South America represent the future of ecomomic growth anyway.