Partition “not realistic option anymore”

Thats true, partition is not an option anymore. Serbs should have asked for partition before Ahtisaari plan went into force but serbs wanted to get everything at that time even that they lost the war. At that time an exchange of territory was possible also. Now its too late for everything because serbs were living in the world of mythology.
You see what happens serbs when you guys live in the world of mythology? You loose everything.
Our Montenegrin leaders lived in that kind of world for a while too and we almost lost everything too. And now that our leaders are back to reality, see the prosperity of Montenegro.
(Montenegrin, 17 September 2011 13:24)

1st of all. Your not montenegrin, your an Albanian living within Montenegro

2nd. Of the 3 Options (N kosovo to S Kosovo, S Kosovo to Serbia and Partition), the only realistic one is partition, no one in N Mitrovica is going to accept rule from Pristina, just as no one in Pristina is going to accept rule from Belgrade, No. Partition is the only sustainable option

"Partition “not realistic option anymore”"

I suspect the West may have bribed him to say this ...... getting impatient, desperate even, are we? ...... Especially when nobody in EU or Yankee Land is money bags right at the moment, nor in the foreseeable future -- not even Germany appears in a mood to play Santa Claus indefinitely if its latest Eurobond salvo is anything to go by.

Bottomline -- military budgets are expensive as we all well know. Especially so when many in your own electorates are jobless and/or homeless -- and are wondering why their governments are throwing away money at foreigners instead of spending on their voters.

You see what happens serbs when you guys live in the world of mythology? You loose everything.
Our Montenegrin leaders lived in that kind of world for a while too and we almost lost everything too. And now that our leaders are back to reality, see the prosperity of Montenegro.
(Montenegrin, 17 September 2011 13:24)

I wonder why an albanian would pretend to be montenegran.

He told Belgrade-based daily Blic that autonomy for Serbs would be "a compromise which would allow northern Kosovo to have a special status in which Serbs would have the feeling they are self-governed, have ties to Belgrade in many domains, would not feel enclosed in something they do not want, while Priština would not feel it lost its territory."

Just like a burglar wouldn't need to feel he 'lost' something when forced to give back a part of the stolen things?

Thats true, partition is not an option anymore. Serbs should have asked for partition before Ahtisaari plan went into force but serbs wanted to get everything at that time even that they lost the war. At that time an exchange of territory was possible also. Now its too late for everything because serbs were living in the world of mythology.
You see what happens serbs when you guys live in the world of mythology? You loose everything.
Our Montenegrin leaders lived in that kind of world for a while too and we almost lost everything too. And now that our leaders are back to reality, see the prosperity of Montenegro.

Thats true, partition is not an option anymore. Serbs should have asked for partition before Ahtisaari plan went into force but serbs wanted to get everything at that time even that they lost the war. At that time an exchange of territory was possible also. Now its too late for everything because serbs were living in the world of mythology.
You see what happens serbs when you guys live in the world of mythology? You loose everything.
Our Montenegrin leaders lived in that kind of world for a while too and we almost lost everything too. And now that our leaders are back to reality, see the prosperity of Montenegro.
(Montenegrin, 17 September 2011 13:24)

1st of all. Your not montenegrin, your an Albanian living within Montenegro

2nd. Of the 3 Options (N kosovo to S Kosovo, S Kosovo to Serbia and Partition), the only realistic one is partition, no one in N Mitrovica is going to accept rule from Pristina, just as no one in Pristina is going to accept rule from Belgrade, No. Partition is the only sustainable option
(New Zealander, 17 September 2011 14:15)

You make me laugh as you claim to be New Zealander it must mean you are not you are a Serb living in New Zeland.

If a person has a citizenship of a country he or she is from that country, you see this is main reason why K-Albanians do not want to live in Serbia as they would not feel wanted in that country. If you are US, German, Brasilian ...Citizen you are American with (Serbian Origin but American, or German etc.

Montenegrien neighbor do not mind our friend from the other side of the world, Serbia lost Kosovo battle in 1389 and the myth has been growing since that day. Look this is their way of dealing with issue even today, Vuk goes to ICJ and then says nothing about it till the judgment he could not stop today no one ever speaks of ICJ in Serbia.

Serbians here talked first about Kosovo as their center now they talk north kosovo it has water supply and mining read the Serbian version of B92, Kosovo is still there and it has not gone any place but its governance now its in someone elses hands. Kosovo it belongs to its inhabitants and not someone from the other side of the world.

He doesn't say anything that Serbia MUST RECOGNISE Kosovo independence first before thinking about autonomy of northern Kosovo. Anything can be on the table AFTER Serbia recognises Kosovo independence first. Reciprocity would be the best way forward.

LMAO, "Pristina would feel like it lost its territory".

How in the hell is N. Mitrovica "Pristina's territory" I tell you the Albanians go gloat about people like this just remember that nobody in Serbia really listens to these sellouts. The amount of funding they get to spew this garbage is not in correlation to how much influence and respect they have among Serbs.

When a pro Serbian gov't is elected in Belgrade the very first law they should enact is not allowing foreign NGO's to operate in Serbia. And a proof of funding for every Serbian NGO that remains. Enough of this "institute of democratic whatever" and George Soros funded Open Society poison. When we get rid of foreign NGO's the battle for Kosovo restarts.

Vejvoda, Serbia did not lose a war in 1999, it was illeagly bombed by the NATO without UNSC approval. How can anyone call that a war, where the NATO warplanes bombed a practically defenceless country from high above? It was a slaughter aimed to make Serbian citizens turn against then president Milosevic. But as always, the West miscalculated, and the Serbs supported Slobodan even more, out of sheer defiance. As a US citizen, I am embarrassed how my retards in the State Dept. acted. As for partition being off the table, you are wrong, dear Western mouthpiece. It is the only solution for KiM. Just like the Shiptars never accepted to live under Serbia's rule, so never will the Serbs in N. KiM. When will all the powers that be recognize this?

In this case the burglar is complaining about what he had rightfully stolen.

As a general rule, any NGO or think tank with 'democracy/democratic' in the name takes money from the likes of Sorros or various western government democracy programs. He is paid, he speaks, he earns his money.

If a person has a citizenship of a country he or she is from that country, you see this is main reason why K-Albanians do not want to live in Serbia as they would not feel wanted in that country. If you are US, German, Brasilian ...Citizen you are American with (Serbian Origin but American, or German etc.
(Engineer, 17 September 2011 15:00)

Ok, then why'd you people want to stop being "Serbian" and start being "Kosovar"? And according to your own weird logic, why then are you people forcing some people to stop being "Serbian" and start being "Kosovar"? :)

This is nonsense !
Who is this guy anyway ?
Why have albanians to feel good anyway.
Kosovo borders is serbia and not the otherway around.
Yes a lost war in 1999, but the albanians had help when they comitted robery with NATO bombs.

Thats true, partition is not an option anymore. Serbs should have asked for partition before Ahtisaari plan went into force.
(Montenegrin, 17 September 2011 13:24)

US/NATO leaders had said that Kosovo partition would be out of question long before Ahtisaari plan came into consideration.

I don’t know what kinda Ivan this man is but he is definitely is a MF. As I guess he is ready to present somebody else’s holy lands. What if he offers his own land instead ? Maximal compromise Serbs may talk of should be a division of K&M. But even this would be a tactical mistake for the time being. The international situation is still negative to solve the problem. So If I were to decide I would not speed the process up but wait until the changes come.

Look how radical anti-Semite became the Western propaganda machine when the order came ! Times they are changing and some day Serbia itself may start to put conditions like Kosovo & Methohija for our readiness to join and keep up EU. The weaker NATO becomes the higher are our chances. The better NATO knows what kinda people live in the reservation the weaker is their support for the bandits. When Libyan rebels unmask themselves like it is already happening in Egypt the West may quite change their attitude to all SOBs all over the world and it will be the time for Serbia to get ready to unfreeze the conflict.

Much will depend on the elites. If Jinjic’s friends will be still at power they will betray again. But a man like T. Nikolic will increase the chances to spit at what all those Ivans and other Euro bureaucrats had told us to do. Toma or another nationalist will have a good chance to gain much more active and efficient support from Russia. And we all know that the West has no arguments against such a treaty. At least nobody is going to fight for them once again. Especially if you bring Russian troops here … So right now we should wait for the new elections in Serbia and for EU to sit flatter on it’s ass.

1st of all. Your not montenegrin, your an Albanian living within Montenegro

2nd. Of the 3 Options (N kosovo to S Kosovo, S Kosovo to Serbia and Partition), the only realistic one is partition, no one in N Mitrovica is going to accept rule from Pristina, just as no one in Pristina is going to accept rule from Belgrade, No. Partition is the only sustainable option
(New Zealander, 17 September 2011 14:15)

You make me laugh as you claim to be New Zealander it must mean you are not you are a Serb living in New Zeland.

If a person has a citizenship of a country he or she is from that country, you see this is main reason why K-Albanians do not want to live in Serbia as they would not feel wanted in that country. If you are US, German, Brasilian ...Citizen you are American with (Serbian Origin but American, or German etc.

Montenegrien neighbor do not mind our friend from the other side of the world, Serbia lost Kosovo battle in 1389 and the myth has been growing since that day. Look this is their way of dealing with issue even today, Vuk goes to ICJ and then says nothing about it till the judgment he could not stop today no one ever speaks of ICJ in Serbia.

Serbians here talked first about Kosovo as their center now they talk north kosovo it has water supply and mining read the Serbian version of B92, Kosovo is still there and it has not gone any place but its governance now its in someone elses hands. Kosovo it belongs to its inhabitants and not someone from the other side of the world.
(Engineer, 17 September 2011 15:00)

Funnily enough I'm not a Serb in any way. I'm of British birth, Irish descent and I live in New Zealand. I guess you just cant accept that any neutral is against you.

In this case the burglar is complaining about what he had rightfully stolen.
(AC, 17 September 2011 14:20)

Yes, just after he has defined his own laws.

So, why partition of Serbia IS option for Europe and USA?? Why Serbian terittory integrity could be break, but Kosovo, Georgia, Bosnia, Azerbaijan territorial integrity - not??

When Kosovo declared independence we heard that Serbia has passed many chances to get to solve Kosovo but blocked any solution. The truth was that the West had ofr many years blocked any negotiations with its standards-before-status policy. And after that we only saw Ahtisaari who hardly qualified as a serious negotiator as he was determined to make Kosovo independent from the very beginning.

Now we get the same type of story about border changes. Reality is that within a year after the 1999 war Serbian politicians talked about partition but that the Kosovo Contact Group consistenly blocked it - stating that Kosovo's "territorial integrity" was one of its principles. The first time the West showed any flexibility on partition was with the Troika nagotiations after Ahtisaari. But at that point it looked mainly a trick to seduce Serbia to informally recognize Kosovo and there was no doubt that Kosovo - that believed it would soon receive worldwide recognition - would reject it.

So, why partition of Serbia IS option for Europe and USA?? Why Serbian terittory integrity could be break, but Kosovo, Georgia, Bosnia, Azerbaijan territorial integrity - not??
(Milan, 18 September 2011 11:48)

Unfortunately partition of YU and Serbia ia option (and even purpose) for Europe and USA, but Croatia's, Bosnia's, Kosovo's territorial integrity is a sacred caw for them.

Thats true, partition is not an option anymore. Serbs should have asked for partition before Ahtisaari plan went into force but serbs wanted to get everything at that time even that they lost the war. At that time an exchange of territory was possible also. Now its too late for everything because serbs were living in the world of mythology.
You see what happens serbs when you guys live in the world of mythology? You loose everything.
Our Montenegrin leaders lived in that kind of world for a while too and we almost lost everything too. And now that our leaders are back to reality, see the prosperity of Montenegro.

He doesn't say anything that Serbia MUST RECOGNISE Kosovo independence first before thinking about autonomy of northern Kosovo. Anything can be on the table AFTER Serbia recognises Kosovo independence first. Reciprocity would be the best way forward.

Thats true, partition is not an option anymore. Serbs should have asked for partition before Ahtisaari plan went into force but serbs wanted to get everything at that time even that they lost the war. At that time an exchange of territory was possible also. Now its too late for everything because serbs were living in the world of mythology.
You see what happens serbs when you guys live in the world of mythology? You loose everything.
Our Montenegrin leaders lived in that kind of world for a while too and we almost lost everything too. And now that our leaders are back to reality, see the prosperity of Montenegro.
(Montenegrin, 17 September 2011 13:24)

1st of all. Your not montenegrin, your an Albanian living within Montenegro

2nd. Of the 3 Options (N kosovo to S Kosovo, S Kosovo to Serbia and Partition), the only realistic one is partition, no one in N Mitrovica is going to accept rule from Pristina, just as no one in Pristina is going to accept rule from Belgrade, No. Partition is the only sustainable option
(New Zealander, 17 September 2011 14:15)

You make me laugh as you claim to be New Zealander it must mean you are not you are a Serb living in New Zeland.

If a person has a citizenship of a country he or she is from that country, you see this is main reason why K-Albanians do not want to live in Serbia as they would not feel wanted in that country. If you are US, German, Brasilian ...Citizen you are American with (Serbian Origin but American, or German etc.

Montenegrien neighbor do not mind our friend from the other side of the world, Serbia lost Kosovo battle in 1389 and the myth has been growing since that day. Look this is their way of dealing with issue even today, Vuk goes to ICJ and then says nothing about it till the judgment he could not stop today no one ever speaks of ICJ in Serbia.

Serbians here talked first about Kosovo as their center now they talk north kosovo it has water supply and mining read the Serbian version of B92, Kosovo is still there and it has not gone any place but its governance now its in someone elses hands. Kosovo it belongs to its inhabitants and not someone from the other side of the world.

He told Belgrade-based daily Blic that autonomy for Serbs would be "a compromise which would allow northern Kosovo to have a special status in which Serbs would have the feeling they are self-governed, have ties to Belgrade in many domains, would not feel enclosed in something they do not want, while Priština would not feel it lost its territory."

Just like a burglar wouldn't need to feel he 'lost' something when forced to give back a part of the stolen things?

Thats true, partition is not an option anymore. Serbs should have asked for partition before Ahtisaari plan went into force but serbs wanted to get everything at that time even that they lost the war. At that time an exchange of territory was possible also. Now its too late for everything because serbs were living in the world of mythology.
You see what happens serbs when you guys live in the world of mythology? You loose everything.
Our Montenegrin leaders lived in that kind of world for a while too and we almost lost everything too. And now that our leaders are back to reality, see the prosperity of Montenegro.
(Montenegrin, 17 September 2011 13:24)

1st of all. Your not montenegrin, your an Albanian living within Montenegro

2nd. Of the 3 Options (N kosovo to S Kosovo, S Kosovo to Serbia and Partition), the only realistic one is partition, no one in N Mitrovica is going to accept rule from Pristina, just as no one in Pristina is going to accept rule from Belgrade, No. Partition is the only sustainable option

You see what happens serbs when you guys live in the world of mythology? You loose everything.
Our Montenegrin leaders lived in that kind of world for a while too and we almost lost everything too. And now that our leaders are back to reality, see the prosperity of Montenegro.
(Montenegrin, 17 September 2011 13:24)

I wonder why an albanian would pretend to be montenegran.

"Partition “not realistic option anymore”"

I suspect the West may have bribed him to say this ...... getting impatient, desperate even, are we? ...... Especially when nobody in EU or Yankee Land is money bags right at the moment, nor in the foreseeable future -- not even Germany appears in a mood to play Santa Claus indefinitely if its latest Eurobond salvo is anything to go by.

Bottomline -- military budgets are expensive as we all well know. Especially so when many in your own electorates are jobless and/or homeless -- and are wondering why their governments are throwing away money at foreigners instead of spending on their voters.

Vejvoda, Serbia did not lose a war in 1999, it was illeagly bombed by the NATO without UNSC approval. How can anyone call that a war, where the NATO warplanes bombed a practically defenceless country from high above? It was a slaughter aimed to make Serbian citizens turn against then president Milosevic. But as always, the West miscalculated, and the Serbs supported Slobodan even more, out of sheer defiance. As a US citizen, I am embarrassed how my retards in the State Dept. acted. As for partition being off the table, you are wrong, dear Western mouthpiece. It is the only solution for KiM. Just like the Shiptars never accepted to live under Serbia's rule, so never will the Serbs in N. KiM. When will all the powers that be recognize this?

In this case the burglar is complaining about what he had rightfully stolen.

LMAO, "Pristina would feel like it lost its territory".

How in the hell is N. Mitrovica "Pristina's territory" I tell you the Albanians go gloat about people like this just remember that nobody in Serbia really listens to these sellouts. The amount of funding they get to spew this garbage is not in correlation to how much influence and respect they have among Serbs.

When a pro Serbian gov't is elected in Belgrade the very first law they should enact is not allowing foreign NGO's to operate in Serbia. And a proof of funding for every Serbian NGO that remains. Enough of this "institute of democratic whatever" and George Soros funded Open Society poison. When we get rid of foreign NGO's the battle for Kosovo restarts.

If a person has a citizenship of a country he or she is from that country, you see this is main reason why K-Albanians do not want to live in Serbia as they would not feel wanted in that country. If you are US, German, Brasilian ...Citizen you are American with (Serbian Origin but American, or German etc.
(Engineer, 17 September 2011 15:00)

Ok, then why'd you people want to stop being "Serbian" and start being "Kosovar"? And according to your own weird logic, why then are you people forcing some people to stop being "Serbian" and start being "Kosovar"? :)

This is nonsense !
Who is this guy anyway ?
Why have albanians to feel good anyway.
Kosovo borders is serbia and not the otherway around.
Yes a lost war in 1999, but the albanians had help when they comitted robery with NATO bombs.

As a general rule, any NGO or think tank with 'democracy/democratic' in the name takes money from the likes of Sorros or various western government democracy programs. He is paid, he speaks, he earns his money.

I don’t know what kinda Ivan this man is but he is definitely is a MF. As I guess he is ready to present somebody else’s holy lands. What if he offers his own land instead ? Maximal compromise Serbs may talk of should be a division of K&M. But even this would be a tactical mistake for the time being. The international situation is still negative to solve the problem. So If I were to decide I would not speed the process up but wait until the changes come.

Look how radical anti-Semite became the Western propaganda machine when the order came ! Times they are changing and some day Serbia itself may start to put conditions like Kosovo & Methohija for our readiness to join and keep up EU. The weaker NATO becomes the higher are our chances. The better NATO knows what kinda people live in the reservation the weaker is their support for the bandits. When Libyan rebels unmask themselves like it is already happening in Egypt the West may quite change their attitude to all SOBs all over the world and it will be the time for Serbia to get ready to unfreeze the conflict.

Much will depend on the elites. If Jinjic’s friends will be still at power they will betray again. But a man like T. Nikolic will increase the chances to spit at what all those Ivans and other Euro bureaucrats had told us to do. Toma or another nationalist will have a good chance to gain much more active and efficient support from Russia. And we all know that the West has no arguments against such a treaty. At least nobody is going to fight for them once again. Especially if you bring Russian troops here … So right now we should wait for the new elections in Serbia and for EU to sit flatter on it’s ass.

When Kosovo declared independence we heard that Serbia has passed many chances to get to solve Kosovo but blocked any solution. The truth was that the West had ofr many years blocked any negotiations with its standards-before-status policy. And after that we only saw Ahtisaari who hardly qualified as a serious negotiator as he was determined to make Kosovo independent from the very beginning.

Now we get the same type of story about border changes. Reality is that within a year after the 1999 war Serbian politicians talked about partition but that the Kosovo Contact Group consistenly blocked it - stating that Kosovo's "territorial integrity" was one of its principles. The first time the West showed any flexibility on partition was with the Troika nagotiations after Ahtisaari. But at that point it looked mainly a trick to seduce Serbia to informally recognize Kosovo and there was no doubt that Kosovo - that believed it would soon receive worldwide recognition - would reject it.

In this case the burglar is complaining about what he had rightfully stolen.
(AC, 17 September 2011 14:20)

Yes, just after he has defined his own laws.

1st of all. Your not montenegrin, your an Albanian living within Montenegro

2nd. Of the 3 Options (N kosovo to S Kosovo, S Kosovo to Serbia and Partition), the only realistic one is partition, no one in N Mitrovica is going to accept rule from Pristina, just as no one in Pristina is going to accept rule from Belgrade, No. Partition is the only sustainable option
(New Zealander, 17 September 2011 14:15)

You make me laugh as you claim to be New Zealander it must mean you are not you are a Serb living in New Zeland.

If a person has a citizenship of a country he or she is from that country, you see this is main reason why K-Albanians do not want to live in Serbia as they would not feel wanted in that country. If you are US, German, Brasilian ...Citizen you are American with (Serbian Origin but American, or German etc.

Montenegrien neighbor do not mind our friend from the other side of the world, Serbia lost Kosovo battle in 1389 and the myth has been growing since that day. Look this is their way of dealing with issue even today, Vuk goes to ICJ and then says nothing about it till the judgment he could not stop today no one ever speaks of ICJ in Serbia.

Serbians here talked first about Kosovo as their center now they talk north kosovo it has water supply and mining read the Serbian version of B92, Kosovo is still there and it has not gone any place but its governance now its in someone elses hands. Kosovo it belongs to its inhabitants and not someone from the other side of the world.
(Engineer, 17 September 2011 15:00)

Funnily enough I'm not a Serb in any way. I'm of British birth, Irish descent and I live in New Zealand. I guess you just cant accept that any neutral is against you.

So, why partition of Serbia IS option for Europe and USA?? Why Serbian terittory integrity could be break, but Kosovo, Georgia, Bosnia, Azerbaijan territorial integrity - not??

Thats true, partition is not an option anymore. Serbs should have asked for partition before Ahtisaari plan went into force.
(Montenegrin, 17 September 2011 13:24)

US/NATO leaders had said that Kosovo partition would be out of question long before Ahtisaari plan came into consideration.

So, why partition of Serbia IS option for Europe and USA?? Why Serbian terittory integrity could be break, but Kosovo, Georgia, Bosnia, Azerbaijan territorial integrity - not??
(Milan, 18 September 2011 11:48)

Unfortunately partition of YU and Serbia ia option (and even purpose) for Europe and USA, but Croatia's, Bosnia's, Kosovo's territorial integrity is a sacred caw for them.