U.S. envoy says Priština's plans "legitimate"

Looks like "game over" for Serbia.

Everyone can say that anything is legitimate. However, in the real world for something to be legitimate, everyone has to agree upon it. At this point, Serbia doesn't agree. More important, the Serbs in northern Kosovo don't believe it's legitimate. Thus, it's not legitimate. We must recognize, however, that Thaci is not really in charge of this process. He is being told what to do and when to do it. He's no more than a puppet; a figurehead. What Serbs must do is resist by making roadblocks and other impediments that a civilized nation will not dare to cross. The US will not crush any such blockade as the consequences would be drastic. They'll posture and say all kinds of things, but they will not attack. I don't care what Albanian fools on this site say. They are all talk and absolutely no action. Nothing will happen. We already saw this the last time they tried to occupy border crossings. Don't change anything Serbs.

Let them set Road blocks let them not work and its Sep soon it will get cold and they will not be outside as long. Who cares let them stay outside and block the roads till they turn blue.

If they dong give up by march I say lets march to North peacfully with all people from south Kosovo and remove peacflly the road blocks.

What will the Serbs do then shoot K-Albanin citizens not a chance, so we can play your game as well. As long as we control the border we are ok. Let them spend Belgrades money on staying in the street and not working.

According to this, the parties agreed that "the authorities of Kosovo will have command over police and customs, the operative part will belong to EULEX, while KFOR will control alternative roads on the border with Serbia".


That's right, it is a checkmate for Serbia. Now what?

"Everyone can say that anything is legitimate. However, in the real world for something to be legitimate, everyone has to agree upon it. At this point, Serbia doesn't agree. More important, the Serbs in northern Kosovo don't believe it's legitimate. Thus, it's not legitimate.
(Daniel, 13 September 2011 17:30)

All this is based on the assumption that Kosovo is a legitimate state, a fact that is very doubtful and Serbia is not agreeing upon. (And no, the ICJ didn't say that Kosovo is a legitimate state, only that there's no law that prohibits an UDI).

The International Court of Justice also didn't give a verdict whether Serbs have the right to live on this planet. What's your point? Kosovo's declaration of independence broke no "international law" and was based on the principles of self-determination; something that a lot of countries enjoy today borne out of their histories. If our sovereignty isn't "legitimate" in your serbian eyes than please with all means go and tell majority of African countries that they don't have a right to exist, and much of the world.


You serbs have no clue what you're talking about....you got schooled, get over yourself, Kosovo's statehood is fait accompli, the end, FULL STOP.





Thanks,

Gentlemen, start your engines!

"US envoy says Pristina plans legitimate"
US envoy signed document in Belgrade in regard to HIs diplomatic activities
in Pristina.Serbian Government should carefully exemine HIS activities and statements for any violations of that agreement.If the violation is found HE should be declared "PERSONA NON GRATA" and send back to Washington.Serbia should never recognized Kosovo Albanian Goverment any Custom check points on administrative borders of SERBIA/ KOSMET.That would be fully in compliance with UN resolution 1244.Serbian population in Northern Kosovo has right to peacefully reject so called "Kosovo
rules and regulations.Any use of force on Serbs to accept "Kosovo"
should be reported to UNSC and legitimacy of that force should be determined there (in UNSC) not in Brussels or any other place.Serbia; Defend your legal rights!!!

i still can't understand the rantings surrounding the udi. as icj put it, it is legal to declare your independence. however a declaration is simply not sufficient, as all of kosovo's residents and supporters realize. a udi is fine and dandy, but unfortunately it requires a multilateral acceptance of independence. infact it seems to require an overwhelming acceptance of said independence.
so, until such a time as to when the multilateral world accepts the declaration and agrees to independence a udi is just wispers in the wind.
that being said, i said until, not if. theres is a good probability that it will happen, but until it does it isn't. an 18 year old, who is likely to graduate to 19 year old cannot partake in the things that require 19+ admission, regardless of the trajectory of age leading them into 19. so, a state that has declared its independence without multilater ratification is like the 18 year old waiting for their 19th birthday.

How illogical and not rational many of you here are! It's pathetic. The declaration of independence of Kosovo is legal and not against the international law. That has verified by the ICJ and this confirmed strongly the factual situation in Kosovo and the Region. That not everyone has to agree with the factual situation in Kosovo shows the fact that for example nearly 30 states do not recognize Israel as a state. Israel is still exists. Kosovo has the right to ensure and protect his borders. Because of that Russia, China, Cuba and Serbia can protest, but they cannot stop it. You have to accept the fact that Kosovo, with all his atribute's, is a reality.

People just do not understand the verdict of the ICJ. They said that the Albanians had the right to declare independence but did not say that the independence itself was valid. Anybody has the right to declare independence. I can do that. But that doesn't make my state of independence a fact. It was a stupid and ambigious verdict that could open the door for more claims on independence.

Let them set Road blocks let them not work and its Sep soon it will get cold and they will not be outside as long. Who cares let them stay outside and block the roads till they turn blue.

If they dong give up by march I say lets march to North peacfully with all people from south Kosovo and remove peacflly the road blocks.

What will the Serbs do then shoot K-Albanin citizens not a chance, so we can play your game as well. As long as we control the border we are ok. Let them spend Belgrades money on staying in the street and not working.

Looks like "game over" for Serbia.

The International Court of Justice also didn't give a verdict whether Serbs have the right to live on this planet. What's your point? Kosovo's declaration of independence broke no "international law" and was based on the principles of self-determination; something that a lot of countries enjoy today borne out of their histories. If our sovereignty isn't "legitimate" in your serbian eyes than please with all means go and tell majority of African countries that they don't have a right to exist, and much of the world.


You serbs have no clue what you're talking about....you got schooled, get over yourself, Kosovo's statehood is fait accompli, the end, FULL STOP.





Thanks,

According to this, the parties agreed that "the authorities of Kosovo will have command over police and customs, the operative part will belong to EULEX, while KFOR will control alternative roads on the border with Serbia".


That's right, it is a checkmate for Serbia. Now what?

Everyone can say that anything is legitimate. However, in the real world for something to be legitimate, everyone has to agree upon it. At this point, Serbia doesn't agree. More important, the Serbs in northern Kosovo don't believe it's legitimate. Thus, it's not legitimate. We must recognize, however, that Thaci is not really in charge of this process. He is being told what to do and when to do it. He's no more than a puppet; a figurehead. What Serbs must do is resist by making roadblocks and other impediments that a civilized nation will not dare to cross. The US will not crush any such blockade as the consequences would be drastic. They'll posture and say all kinds of things, but they will not attack. I don't care what Albanian fools on this site say. They are all talk and absolutely no action. Nothing will happen. We already saw this the last time they tried to occupy border crossings. Don't change anything Serbs.

"Everyone can say that anything is legitimate. However, in the real world for something to be legitimate, everyone has to agree upon it. At this point, Serbia doesn't agree. More important, the Serbs in northern Kosovo don't believe it's legitimate. Thus, it's not legitimate.
(Daniel, 13 September 2011 17:30)

All this is based on the assumption that Kosovo is a legitimate state, a fact that is very doubtful and Serbia is not agreeing upon. (And no, the ICJ didn't say that Kosovo is a legitimate state, only that there's no law that prohibits an UDI).

How illogical and not rational many of you here are! It's pathetic. The declaration of independence of Kosovo is legal and not against the international law. That has verified by the ICJ and this confirmed strongly the factual situation in Kosovo and the Region. That not everyone has to agree with the factual situation in Kosovo shows the fact that for example nearly 30 states do not recognize Israel as a state. Israel is still exists. Kosovo has the right to ensure and protect his borders. Because of that Russia, China, Cuba and Serbia can protest, but they cannot stop it. You have to accept the fact that Kosovo, with all his atribute's, is a reality.

Gentlemen, start your engines!

"US envoy says Pristina plans legitimate"
US envoy signed document in Belgrade in regard to HIs diplomatic activities
in Pristina.Serbian Government should carefully exemine HIS activities and statements for any violations of that agreement.If the violation is found HE should be declared "PERSONA NON GRATA" and send back to Washington.Serbia should never recognized Kosovo Albanian Goverment any Custom check points on administrative borders of SERBIA/ KOSMET.That would be fully in compliance with UN resolution 1244.Serbian population in Northern Kosovo has right to peacefully reject so called "Kosovo
rules and regulations.Any use of force on Serbs to accept "Kosovo"
should be reported to UNSC and legitimacy of that force should be determined there (in UNSC) not in Brussels or any other place.Serbia; Defend your legal rights!!!

i still can't understand the rantings surrounding the udi. as icj put it, it is legal to declare your independence. however a declaration is simply not sufficient, as all of kosovo's residents and supporters realize. a udi is fine and dandy, but unfortunately it requires a multilateral acceptance of independence. infact it seems to require an overwhelming acceptance of said independence.
so, until such a time as to when the multilateral world accepts the declaration and agrees to independence a udi is just wispers in the wind.
that being said, i said until, not if. theres is a good probability that it will happen, but until it does it isn't. an 18 year old, who is likely to graduate to 19 year old cannot partake in the things that require 19+ admission, regardless of the trajectory of age leading them into 19. so, a state that has declared its independence without multilater ratification is like the 18 year old waiting for their 19th birthday.

People just do not understand the verdict of the ICJ. They said that the Albanians had the right to declare independence but did not say that the independence itself was valid. Anybody has the right to declare independence. I can do that. But that doesn't make my state of independence a fact. It was a stupid and ambigious verdict that could open the door for more claims on independence.