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Thursday, 08.09.2011.

09:25

"Two countries rescind Kosovo recognitions"

Oman and Guinea Bissau have withdrawn their decisions to recognize Kosovo’s independence, Belgrade-based daily Blic writes.

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Pls say it ain't so!!

pre 12 godina

Is it so hard to read? I'm 100% sure the name of this 'Albanian Businessman' starts with a 'Pac' and ends with an 'li'. Furthermore, Mr. Pacolli, before he became politician and bribe minister in Kosovo, proudly annouced that he was responsible for a number of recognitions. You must be really living in a dream world not to interpret that he payed for it. How else could he 'lobby' countries? I have always wondered how can be someone that stupid: If I bribe someone, I would keep my mouth shut and hope that it will stay under the carpet, and not announce it in the public.
(Analyst, 10 September 2011 14:01)

Hey Analyst, it's a war....

You use guns and whatever it takes, we use money (if you insist).

The name of the game is, who gets there first; and we're wayyyyy ahead.

Yes I did; I did say so!!!!!

Analyst

pre 12 godina

"And if your conclusion is right that he buyes of countrys then I bet Serbia has more money than Mr.Pacolli so they can pay even more. Is Serbia not willing to pay money to ''fight for Kosovo''? Haven't Serbia the economy to compete with Mr.Pacolli?? "
(Demi, 9 September 2011 00:36)

The typical Kosovo attitude: You can buy everything: Votes in elections, recognitions in Africa, organs in Pristina hospitals, public works for your street construction company, and so on... In case you shouldn't know: The civilized world is not like that, it's simply not customary in normal countries.

"It is BS that Mr.Pacolli payes for recogntion. You have no fact about that!! You have no fact about nothing but you still draw conclusion that things are like you dream of. "
(Demi, 9 September 2011 00:36)

From the article: “Two more countries have annnounced withdrawal of their decisions and it should be announced soon, and there is an investigation in an African country against a top official who took money from an Albanian businessman to push for the decision about the recognition,“ Blic pointed out.

Is it so hard to read? I'm 100% sure the name of this 'Albanian Businessman' starts with a 'Pac' and ends with an 'li'. Furthermore, Mr. Pacolli, before he became politician and bribe minister in Kosovo, proudly annouced that he was responsible for a number of recognitions. You must be really living in a dream world not to interpret that he payed for it. How else could he 'lobby' countries? I have always wondered how can be someone that stupid: If I bribe someone, I would keep my mouth shut and hope that it will stay under the carpet, and not announce it in the public.

Pls say it ain't so!!

pre 12 godina

Ataman,

you're to depressing a desperate. You're life is revolving around this site. You're going to get a heart attack soon; I'm worried mate :)

Ataman

pre 12 godina

Really? [link]
(Bloody Mary, 9 September 2011 18:06)

Really - or at least I think that some people in the "command center" around Washington DC and the Pentagon did object the wallpaper of his office. Some feel uncomfortable with the view. Even if it may have other explanation.

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/2182/pacolli.jpg

Bloody Mary

pre 12 godina

Obviously, Americans do not want to see him being the president. ;-)
(Ataman, 9 September 2011 13:13)

Really? http://euobserver.com/24/31926

Ataman

pre 12 godina

Was it a case of reversing my car to be able to drive forward or two mates running a protection racket?
(MMM, 8 September 2011 17:49)

This is the case to let Pacolli gain popularity among Albanians and put him in the chair of the president. IMO Pacolli is largely Moscow's man and this is why he was removed by American demand.

You probably know that he has extensive ties through both business and relatives to Moscow.

Regardless, he is the only guy who has an acceptable plan to integrate the "north" (via jobs in construction business - obviously not without some little help from his allies and relatives).

That plan was no good - now violence speaks, Balkan at it's greatest.
If few more recognitions from Kingdom of Mbeka Mbuku and similar are needed to make him president - I don't mind. I want to see him being the president and than we will see how it goes. Obviously, Americans do not want to see him being the president. ;-)

Sam, UK

pre 12 godina

So why don't they just rescind the recognitions now? Although on the Albanian side where is this CARICOM recognition? Jeremic and Pacolli are as embarassing as each other.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 12 godina

LOL!!! What are they going to report? That they revoked a recognition they never made? They never even reported the recognition so why report anything at all now?

(OTAN Brussels, 8 September 2011 18:10)

Good comment for your consumption, but where is the logic?
If they have never recognized Kosova, there is nothing to revoke.
Ask yourself once again , what is wrong with this news?

Anonymous

pre 12 godina

To all the albanians sayig that oman and guinea bissau didnt revoke their recognitions, you really are fools. Serbia is obviously not lying about this since the countries have not denied what they said to Vuk Jeremic. I challenge you to find me one article or official statement from oman or guinea bissau that states the rrcognition was not repealed. You albanians are just mad that they repealed their recognitons and that two other countries are going through the process of repealing their recognitions.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

Send in the clowns! or did I mean bring on the trolls.
(miles, 8 September 2011 09:52)

LOL they didn't disappoint us today! :)

Demi

pre 12 godina

How funny. Then, please tell my why the 'Albanian businessman' Mr. Pacolli became Kosovo's deputy PM? What kind of minister is he, anyway? The minister for lobbying (==buying) recognitions?
(Analyst, 8 September 2011 21:28)

His party is part of the goverment of Kosovo. He have a post where he can contribute to the welfare of Kosovo. What is the problem with that?

And if your conclusion is right that he buyes of countrys then I bet Serbia has more money than Mr.Pacolli so they can pay even more. Is Serbia not willing to pay money to ''fight for Kosovo''? Haven't Serbia the economy to compete with Mr.Pacolli??

It is BS that Mr.Pacolli payes for recogntion. You have no fact about that!! You have no fact about nothing but you still draw conclusion that things are like you dream of.

But anyway every recognition is a recogntion. When Kosovo has over 95 recognition then the majority of the world recognize Kosovo.

Analyst

pre 12 godina

"The US and Kosovo ofcourse pressure states to recognize our independence. This is called lobby and we do it in a democratic way. We do not bribe or threat countrys or leaders to recognize us. We belive that in that way it the lobby would not work since we belive that countrys and leaders have principles. You serbs live in a dreamland beliving in lies of Jeremic that albanians bribe countrys to recognize us. So we bribed Japan and Sweden to recognize us??"
(Demi, 8 September 2011 20:46)
How funny. Then, please tell my why the 'Albanian businessman' Mr. Pacolli became Kosovo's deputy PM? What kind of minister is he, anyway? The minister for lobbying (==buying) recognitions?

Demi

pre 12 godina

Are the Albanians here saying that the US/EU does not pressure, and the Albanians bribe, countries to recognize pristina's UDI? If you don't, you really are living in some kind of dreamland. But what is more important, what did Thaci and the KLA do with the bodies of victims they took organs out of? That is more important than this diplomacy fiasco. The US always plays dirty, so these recognitions mean little.
(Winston, 8 September 2011 18:21


The US and Kosovo ofcourse pressure states to recognize our independence. This is called lobby and we do it in a democratic way. We do not bribe or threat countrys or leaders to recognize us. We belive that in that way it the lobby would not work since we belive that countrys and leaders have principles. You serbs live in a dreamland beliving in lies of Jeremic that albanians bribe countrys to recognize us. So we bribed Japan and Sweden to recognize us?? Sounds silly Mister!!

The biggest dreamland you live in is beliving that Kosovo are or ever can be Serbian. You wrelly must be on some strong stuff dreaming about such a thing. Kosovo dont need more than US recognition to fullfill it's goal to be a country and to extend it powers through the whole territory. Every other recognition is just a plus!!

When it comes to the ''organ firytale'' there are no serbian victims. The story is false! KLA (UCK) did fight an clean war against Serbia to make Kosovo independent. That is why no KLA leader has been convicted for crimes against serbs in the Haag tribunal. 40 + serbs have been convicted for massacres and war crimes against civilans. That sayes alote about the crimes in Kosovo. And until today we dont know anything of bodyparts of albanians missing wich serbian military forces has buried all aurond Serbia.

So you are not ina position to play the victim because you were the aggressor. The world knowes that!!

As for this article on revoked recognition of Kosovo from various states we know by now that it is not true. Kosovo leaders and the media in Kosovo has confirmed it. You serbs will never win against the albanians.

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

The beginning of the end.

Your still born child is losing is facing a slow but sure death. The USA does not have more dollars to print for your creation.

The American, English, German people are going to ask where there tax dollars are really going to. They do NOT want to help you. Never did. Just corrupt governments with special interests took up your cause. As cash gets limited in these countries, the people will start asking where this money goes too especially in terms of foreign interests.

When the West pulls support not because they want too, but because the govt HAS too.. you will HAVE too negotiate autonomy within Serbia or be deported back to Albania.

There is no other choice.

OTAN Brussels

pre 12 godina

I'm in Oman an no such news has been reported here !!!
(Igor, 8 September 2011 16:28)

LOL!!! What are they going to report? That they revoked a recognition they never made? They never even reported the recognition so why report anything at all now?

There is very very little news about the last 30 odd recognitions. So what was the deal? Pristina announces a recognition while the said country (president, dictator, etc...) just keeps quiet and in exchange they get a suitcase full of freshly printed US dollars?

If the Serbs up north hold out a little longer, it will be game over for Thaci very soon.

trizo

pre 12 godina

The only chance you Albanians have of keeping these kind of recognitions is if you played the fundamental Islam note, however, your own fake government just banned the hijab & religion teachings in schools.

Now the children of Kosovo will grow without being indoctrinated and instead find truths for themselves through history.. at least it will be more fair this way..

I'm certain they won't grow up trying to burn down Serbian churches because they will have no reason to do so, they won't be taught to hate Serbians.

Recognitions based purely on religion will start to fade.

resident of Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada

pre 12 godina

I understand that this type of news is a setback to pro-independence Kosovars but as far as I'm concerned it cannot mean that Kosovo has "officially" returned to its status as a province of Serbia (at least not for now.)

Whether it's of major or minor consolation,I trust that Canada has so far not rescinded its recognition of Kosovo and if there are any Canadians who oppose Kosovo insisting that it's sovereign,hopefully they might be unsuccessful in persuading Ottawa(Canada's capital) to rescind its recognition of Kosovo.Finally and only if it's true that Kosovar politicians were bribing other nations to recognize Kosovo's sovereignty than I'm afraid that's not the way to achieve recognition even though some people may not like what I just typed now and even though I'm not discouraging pro-independence Kosovars in achieving their dreams.

Winston

pre 12 godina

Are the Albanians here saying that the US/EU does not pressure, and the Albanians bribe, countries to recognize pristina's UDI? If you don't, you really are living in some kind of dreamland. But what is more important, what did Thaci and the KLA do with the bodies of victims they took organs out of? That is more important than this diplomacy fiasco. The US always plays dirty, so these recognitions mean little.

MMM

pre 12 godina

I am even saying, good number of recognitions was bought by Russia - you probably think I am insane. Maybe, but it's not an insanity. Just think a bit.

Now that does not matter anymore, so I can talk what I think. ;-)(Ataman, 8 September 2011 16:05)


Was it a case of reversing my car to be able to drive forward or two mates running a protection racket?

UNE

pre 12 godina

the article states that guinea bissau never recognised Kosovo Well read the letter that the president of Guineaa bissau sent Kosovo at kohaditore.com. LOL typical Serbian propaganda. Oman does not recognise countries but it just accepts them if it pleases them and establishes embassies. Soon to open one from Kosova in Oman. Read their website of foreign affairs. LOL what a joke the serbian political scene is.

Is this another one just like Poland will withdraw recognition also Poland will withdraw recognition. I wonder what has Jeremic acting this way. Anytime he does this some big country recognises. I wonder who will it be next?

alis

pre 12 godina

am saying this to all of you who dont no nathing about politiks and propoganda stuff,just see the reality in your on contrey dont talk about russia and chine brazil do you realy think that russains care about serbs come on who gave a green light to bomb serbia in 1999 dont comment on somthing that evry single day you serbs and albo talk about serbs did that albo did that who cares anymore what you did as long as you have money you have the power,and who makes the money and who decide that this contrey is going to be reach for 20 year and after that down to earth off course VATIKAN AMERICAN ENGLAND and THATS IT...why SNS party whent to brussel last week can any comment on that why TITO broke up with russia and he turn out to europe why any serbs what to comment on that to..

OTAN Brussels

pre 12 godina

LOL!!! And the truth comes out. If you look beneath the surface, many of these so-called recognitions are either false, non-binding or only implicit.

For instance, the Czech republic's recognition becomes legal when an ambassador is assigned to Pristina and since the president Václav Klaus is against recognition, he has declined to assign such an ambassador. In this case, the recognition is a dud.

In the case of New Zealand, it was an implicit recognition, meaning a note was sent stating communication between Wellington and Pristina would go through the ambassador in London. There was no mention of recognition by the government and neither was it reported in the press.

Now that the UDI has set a dangerous precedent, notably in Georgia and more interestingly in Israel, I can tell you that some people are getting worried. The fact that NATO are attempting to seal Kosovo's borders now is no coincidence. The game is changing rapidly and even though Albanians are pragmatic when aligning themselves with various occupational forces (Ottomans, Nazi's and NATO), their timing normally backfires on them.

Look, there is no love for either Albanians or Serbians. Up until now, Geopolitical conditions (i.e., Germany and Saudi Arabia) have ensured that Albanians, Croatians and Bosniaks get support. However, now that Israel has an opposing interest, a new battle begins.

Mark

pre 12 godina

Oh Jeremic's "diplomatic victories" pile up.

Guinea-Bissau recognized Kosovo on January 14,2011.Their letter to Kosovo's MFA says:“President of the Republic of Guinea-Bissau, His Excellency Malam Bacai, renders his compliments to the Government of the Republic of Guinea-Bissau and notifies it that the relevant authorities of the Republic of Guinea-Bissau recognized independence and sovereignty of the Republic of Kosovo, and expresses a desire for the swift establishment of diplomatic relations”.

Oman has established diplomatic relation with Kosovo since February 4.Their letter to the Kosovo's foreing ministry says:“In acknowledging the decision of the International Court of Justice on the independence of Kosovo, the Government of the Sultanate of Oman will welcome Kosovo’s membership to the United Nations, as well as to other international and regional organizations it wishes to join”.

B92 can get the original documents from Kosovo's MFA or contact the governments of these countries. So until you serbs provide official proof of Jeremic's claims,it is just propoganda for serbian internal use.

Janez-Beograd

pre 12 godina

Oman and Guinea Bissau have withdrawn their decisions to recognize Kosovo’s independence, Belgrade-based daily Blic writes.

Oh dear, oh dear :-D

What do the Albanian hyper nationalist keyboard warriors have to say now?

I hope Mr. 147% choked on his cornflakes this morning.

Mladen

pre 12 godina

who gives a damn for OMAN anyways as long as United State of America and UK and GERMANY Lives we dont care for any other contrey..so now you serbs have much to talk about OMAN and your vuk jermic prapaganda.
(alis, 8 September 2011 15:25)

Open your eyes and see the millions in the unemployment lines... Other than Germany, the US and UK are in a massive depression that is only going to get worse(thank you Obama)... Germany is like Russia's best friend now and I think they would rather be good with Russia than to support you... Face it every day this whole world order is cracking and with its fall so will be yours

Janez-Beograd

pre 12 godina

who gives a damn for OMAN anyways as long as United State of America and UK and GERMANY Lives we dont care for any other contrey..so now you serbs have much to talk about OMAN and your vuk jermic prapaganda.
(alis, 8 September 2011 15:25)

Another Albanian hyper nationalist keyboard warrior living in the Glorious Socialist Peoples Makebelief Fantasy Kingdom of Illyria. You are not independent until Belgrade says so. Kapiche?

How do you say that in Klingon? Is there room on the spaceship?

Beam me up Scotty.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

who gives a damn for OMAN anyways as long as United State of America and UK and GERMANY Lives we dont care for any other contrey..so now you serbs have much to talk about OMAN and your vuk jermic prapaganda.
(alis, 8 September 2011 15:25)

"who gives a damn for NETHERLANDS anyways as long as Russian Federation and Brasil and CHINA Lives we dont care for any other contrey..so now you albanians have much to talk about NETHERLANDS and your thaçi propaganda."

Somehow sounds the same for me. ;-)

(Except that Oman became a great country and the #1 vacation target for Rocky only few month ago overnight).

These recognitions and counter-recognitions largely mean nothing. The game was started by Dubya and Tony a while ago with the pre-mature creation of that thing, good for nothing and essentially meaningless.

I am even saying, good number of recognitions was bought by Russia - you probably think I am insane. Maybe, but it's not an insanity. Just think a bit.

Now that does not matter anymore, so I can talk what I think. ;-)

Ataman

pre 12 godina

But I also can't say that I'm not smiling upon reading this.
(Mike, 8 September 2011 15:57)

I am not. I believe, a few previous recognitions did happen with at least a silent nod from Gazprom - the goal was to put someone whom they regard at least potentially as "their man" into a posh chair in Pristina by popularity. Who's his wife? This is kid of same game as who is the wife of Bühler, just from the other side.

It could be a long-lasting geo-political chess game. No wonder, Americans got into panic mode as Pacolli became the president - and they were quick to remove him.

Nothing particular, just the old CIA - versus - NKVD/KGB games. With Pacolli I see the signature of KGB, with removing him - the signature of CIA. And guess what: there is still a chance, he is totally impartial. But game is game and the ones who like to screw up our lives love to play such games.

Sorry - maybe all this is just a wild phantasy - but my distrust to ALL politicians can't be cured ;-)

By the way: with Pacolli in power - he promised he would get the "north" back by providing jobs. Obviously, that wasn't the #1 objective. I mean, the jobs.

Thaçi is in very dangerous position because he knows way to much. I would raise the life insurance premium of anyone who knows about CIA operations probably by 1000x factor. ;-)

That crap now is in the stage where everyone should just stay away from. These organizations with three letters are not Salvation Army.

Winston

pre 12 godina

This is sweet. I am happy to see that the US's/EU's pressuring, and the Albanians' dirty drug money, cannot always get the recognitions they so dearly want. There still are people and countries that place ethics, justice, and respect for national sovereignty above money. Bravo to these few. There is nothing sweeter than to see the imperialist Empire, and the Albanian mafia, get a poke in the eye.

Mike

pre 12 godina

Well this is interesting. I can't say that a withdrawal of recognition of these two countries is really going to change the playing field since the previous (or apparent) recognition of those two countries weren't diplomatic game changers. But I also can't say that I'm not smiling upon reading this.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

If the Serbs regain Kosovo will it treat the average K-Alb the same as it's own citizens? It makes sense though the only ones realisticaly able to eradicate the misery caused by all the gangs/clans and create some semblance of normality is Serbia.
(SD, 8 September 2011 15:01)

I wish that would happen - but than we are talking about an exemplary state union, not about Serbia as it is today. Yugoslavia clearly failed and not once - the solution is neither break up everything nor re-create a failure - but as the Founding Fathers of America envisioned: "a better union".

The problem is, one side wants to re-create the failure, the other side wants to break everything up. It is not going to work, but breaking up is easier to accomplish.

An other problem is, everyone who thinks about a "better union" is regarded with suspect to either becoming the leader of "Greater Albania", becoming a "new Tito" or some sort of "pan-slavic leader". That makes of course a negative selection process.

It has to be the wish of sufficiently large part of population first and there is not enough momentum for such thing at this moment.

SD

pre 12 godina

Interesting times ahead.
If the Serbs regain Kosovo will it treat the average K-Alb the same as it's own citizens? It makes sense though the only ones realisticaly able to eradicate the misery caused by all the gangs/clans and create some semblance of normality is Serbia.

alis

pre 12 godina

who gives a damn for OMAN anyways as long as United State of America and UK and GERMANY Lives we dont care for any other contrey..so now you serbs have much to talk about OMAN and your vuk jermic prapaganda.

Dragan

pre 12 godina

It was bound to happen, and just goes to show what a fake 'state' Kosovo is, which will hever, ever, have legitimacy. I certainly expect more withdrawals as the world realizes what we already know.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/MAC404A.html
Truth is on our side, keep on spreading it.
Cheers!!

PEN

pre 12 godina

The only reason NATO ie USA drove the independence agenda was for their own geo political and strategic interests. A perfect location to establish, free of any local domestic considerations, (you know like rent) a logistics and intel asset to eavesdrop on activity in the near East and Russia. The rest is just hot air. Those countries not bullied or bribed into recognition know this only too well. Particularly the big Islamic states. Thus strong armed recognitions will begin to evaporate. Time is beginning to tell.

ben

pre 12 godina

To follow the Serbian logic explained in person by their chief diplomat Jeremic, I presume that the Serbian offer to Oman and G. Bissau was more generous :)

J.Oker

pre 12 godina

“Two more countries have annnounced withdrawal of their decisions and it should be announced soon, and there is an investigation in an African country against a top official who took money from an Albanian businessman to push for the decision about the recognition,“ Blic pointed out.

Oh, who could it be, this Albanian 'businessman'? Any guess? :)

Une

pre 12 godina

Lol. Jeremic is getting desperate. Now he is just lying according to the Kosova foreign ministry there is no withdraw and there will be no withdraw. Lol

spygrant

pre 12 godina

Oman delegation head informed the Serbian officials that Oman had never recognized Kosovo even though Priština had celebrated it. this is now beginning to sound like children telling stories to adults,if any one in here thinks recognition will be annulled is dreaming big time.most of these officials are two face idiots they say one thing here and when they go back to there country they do the other,just to keep both sides happy. Kosovo stop worrying about who recognized you or did not , USA, Germany France, UK,is OK for u guys,stop building houses that no one will live,its too much,instead build factories so ur citizens will av jobs. Serbians focus on Ur EU part,learn to respect countries around you.its only a wast of time trying to pull Kosovo down because you will surly go down with them, Kosovo is independent now not even america can take that away from them.do you know what freedom feels like? this is not the 90's any more.so both sides should learn to live in peace.

PRO-SERBIA

pre 12 godina

Definitely more withdrawals will happen in the coming weeks. Kosovo UDI will FAIL. Thaci and Co. will not have a choice but to agree for an Greater Autonomy deal with Belgrade.

Englebert

pre 12 godina

These 2 countries are so far down the scale of importance its almost laughable. If thats the best the serbs can muster up then god help us all.
(Bam Bam, 8 September 2011 10:36)

I seem to recall Albanians wildly celebrating when some country unheard of by 99% of the world recognized the stillborn state because it was the principle of recogntion. The same goes for Serbs, I would argue. If this is true, then it is a huge moral victory for Serbia, regardless of the state's importance in the global sphere.

New Zealander

pre 12 godina

These 2 countries are so far down the scale of importance its almost laughable. If thats the best the serbs can muster up then god help us all.
(Bam Bam, 8 September 2011 10:36)

Thats not what you guys said when they (or Somalia for that matter) recognised Kosovo as independent in the first place. By the way, someone should start checking these recognitions, several of the last few seem very suspicious, I couldnt find anything from their governments/Ministries of Foreign affairs (Notably the Andorran and 14 Carribean ones)

Woland

pre 12 godina

Serbian media doing what it does best, and that is to feed its people with lies and dirty propaganda.
(Kosova-USA, 8 September 2011 10:20)

Read and weep, my friend.

Bloody Mary

pre 12 godina

How can Oman withdraw a recognition that at least according to this article has never happened? If we had recognized Kosovo we would withdraw the recognition now but since we haven't...???

Anonymous

pre 12 godina

I have honestly never been more happy in my life. I literally jumpe din the air when I read this headline. By the way 2 more countries are expected to withdraw their recognitions of the UDI and one country might withdraw it after it investigates one of its officials that was bribed by Bexhet Pacolli. So 4 recognition withdrawls! Maybe another one from that African country that is investigating its official too!

New Zealander

pre 12 godina

Interesting to see how in 2 minutes the down votes on the pro-morals comments go from about 0 to 13 or so, nice to see our Albanian friends rigging the votes, It only helps destroy their case and reinforce the stereotype

Bam Bam

pre 12 godina

These 2 countries are so far down the scale of importance its almost laughable. If thats the best the serbs can muster up then god help us all.

usaSERB

pre 12 godina

Wonderful news! World is slowly but surely catching on. Wonder what albanian trolls have to say now. Let me guess… Never mined… I will let albanian trolls speak for themselves.I need some laughs.

miles

pre 12 godina

My God, I can't believe it, is sanity, international law and peaceful resistance going to win over drugs money, guns, and thievery supported by the old imperialists? Will I have to lay my cynicism to rest? Is there a bright inclusive future for all of us, including our Albanian brothers?

Send in the clowns! or did I mean bring on the trolls.

miles

pre 12 godina

My God, I can't believe it, is sanity, international law and peaceful resistance going to win over drugs money, guns, and thievery supported by the old imperialists? Will I have to lay my cynicism to rest? Is there a bright inclusive future for all of us, including our Albanian brothers?

Send in the clowns! or did I mean bring on the trolls.

Woland

pre 12 godina

Serbian media doing what it does best, and that is to feed its people with lies and dirty propaganda.
(Kosova-USA, 8 September 2011 10:20)

Read and weep, my friend.

Bloody Mary

pre 12 godina

How can Oman withdraw a recognition that at least according to this article has never happened? If we had recognized Kosovo we would withdraw the recognition now but since we haven't...???

New Zealander

pre 12 godina

Interesting to see how in 2 minutes the down votes on the pro-morals comments go from about 0 to 13 or so, nice to see our Albanian friends rigging the votes, It only helps destroy their case and reinforce the stereotype

Anonymous

pre 12 godina

I have honestly never been more happy in my life. I literally jumpe din the air when I read this headline. By the way 2 more countries are expected to withdraw their recognitions of the UDI and one country might withdraw it after it investigates one of its officials that was bribed by Bexhet Pacolli. So 4 recognition withdrawls! Maybe another one from that African country that is investigating its official too!

PRO-SERBIA

pre 12 godina

Definitely more withdrawals will happen in the coming weeks. Kosovo UDI will FAIL. Thaci and Co. will not have a choice but to agree for an Greater Autonomy deal with Belgrade.

usaSERB

pre 12 godina

Wonderful news! World is slowly but surely catching on. Wonder what albanian trolls have to say now. Let me guess… Never mined… I will let albanian trolls speak for themselves.I need some laughs.

Englebert

pre 12 godina

These 2 countries are so far down the scale of importance its almost laughable. If thats the best the serbs can muster up then god help us all.
(Bam Bam, 8 September 2011 10:36)

I seem to recall Albanians wildly celebrating when some country unheard of by 99% of the world recognized the stillborn state because it was the principle of recogntion. The same goes for Serbs, I would argue. If this is true, then it is a huge moral victory for Serbia, regardless of the state's importance in the global sphere.

New Zealander

pre 12 godina

These 2 countries are so far down the scale of importance its almost laughable. If thats the best the serbs can muster up then god help us all.
(Bam Bam, 8 September 2011 10:36)

Thats not what you guys said when they (or Somalia for that matter) recognised Kosovo as independent in the first place. By the way, someone should start checking these recognitions, several of the last few seem very suspicious, I couldnt find anything from their governments/Ministries of Foreign affairs (Notably the Andorran and 14 Carribean ones)

J.Oker

pre 12 godina

“Two more countries have annnounced withdrawal of their decisions and it should be announced soon, and there is an investigation in an African country against a top official who took money from an Albanian businessman to push for the decision about the recognition,“ Blic pointed out.

Oh, who could it be, this Albanian 'businessman'? Any guess? :)

PEN

pre 12 godina

The only reason NATO ie USA drove the independence agenda was for their own geo political and strategic interests. A perfect location to establish, free of any local domestic considerations, (you know like rent) a logistics and intel asset to eavesdrop on activity in the near East and Russia. The rest is just hot air. Those countries not bullied or bribed into recognition know this only too well. Particularly the big Islamic states. Thus strong armed recognitions will begin to evaporate. Time is beginning to tell.

Dragan

pre 12 godina

It was bound to happen, and just goes to show what a fake 'state' Kosovo is, which will hever, ever, have legitimacy. I certainly expect more withdrawals as the world realizes what we already know.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/MAC404A.html
Truth is on our side, keep on spreading it.
Cheers!!

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

The beginning of the end.

Your still born child is losing is facing a slow but sure death. The USA does not have more dollars to print for your creation.

The American, English, German people are going to ask where there tax dollars are really going to. They do NOT want to help you. Never did. Just corrupt governments with special interests took up your cause. As cash gets limited in these countries, the people will start asking where this money goes too especially in terms of foreign interests.

When the West pulls support not because they want too, but because the govt HAS too.. you will HAVE too negotiate autonomy within Serbia or be deported back to Albania.

There is no other choice.

Bam Bam

pre 12 godina

These 2 countries are so far down the scale of importance its almost laughable. If thats the best the serbs can muster up then god help us all.

SD

pre 12 godina

Interesting times ahead.
If the Serbs regain Kosovo will it treat the average K-Alb the same as it's own citizens? It makes sense though the only ones realisticaly able to eradicate the misery caused by all the gangs/clans and create some semblance of normality is Serbia.

Mladen

pre 12 godina

who gives a damn for OMAN anyways as long as United State of America and UK and GERMANY Lives we dont care for any other contrey..so now you serbs have much to talk about OMAN and your vuk jermic prapaganda.
(alis, 8 September 2011 15:25)

Open your eyes and see the millions in the unemployment lines... Other than Germany, the US and UK are in a massive depression that is only going to get worse(thank you Obama)... Germany is like Russia's best friend now and I think they would rather be good with Russia than to support you... Face it every day this whole world order is cracking and with its fall so will be yours

Janez-Beograd

pre 12 godina

Oman and Guinea Bissau have withdrawn their decisions to recognize Kosovo’s independence, Belgrade-based daily Blic writes.

Oh dear, oh dear :-D

What do the Albanian hyper nationalist keyboard warriors have to say now?

I hope Mr. 147% choked on his cornflakes this morning.

Janez-Beograd

pre 12 godina

who gives a damn for OMAN anyways as long as United State of America and UK and GERMANY Lives we dont care for any other contrey..so now you serbs have much to talk about OMAN and your vuk jermic prapaganda.
(alis, 8 September 2011 15:25)

Another Albanian hyper nationalist keyboard warrior living in the Glorious Socialist Peoples Makebelief Fantasy Kingdom of Illyria. You are not independent until Belgrade says so. Kapiche?

How do you say that in Klingon? Is there room on the spaceship?

Beam me up Scotty.

ben

pre 12 godina

To follow the Serbian logic explained in person by their chief diplomat Jeremic, I presume that the Serbian offer to Oman and G. Bissau was more generous :)

Une

pre 12 godina

Lol. Jeremic is getting desperate. Now he is just lying according to the Kosova foreign ministry there is no withdraw and there will be no withdraw. Lol

OTAN Brussels

pre 12 godina

I'm in Oman an no such news has been reported here !!!
(Igor, 8 September 2011 16:28)

LOL!!! What are they going to report? That they revoked a recognition they never made? They never even reported the recognition so why report anything at all now?

There is very very little news about the last 30 odd recognitions. So what was the deal? Pristina announces a recognition while the said country (president, dictator, etc...) just keeps quiet and in exchange they get a suitcase full of freshly printed US dollars?

If the Serbs up north hold out a little longer, it will be game over for Thaci very soon.

Mike

pre 12 godina

Well this is interesting. I can't say that a withdrawal of recognition of these two countries is really going to change the playing field since the previous (or apparent) recognition of those two countries weren't diplomatic game changers. But I also can't say that I'm not smiling upon reading this.

UNE

pre 12 godina

the article states that guinea bissau never recognised Kosovo Well read the letter that the president of Guineaa bissau sent Kosovo at kohaditore.com. LOL typical Serbian propaganda. Oman does not recognise countries but it just accepts them if it pleases them and establishes embassies. Soon to open one from Kosova in Oman. Read their website of foreign affairs. LOL what a joke the serbian political scene is.

Is this another one just like Poland will withdraw recognition also Poland will withdraw recognition. I wonder what has Jeremic acting this way. Anytime he does this some big country recognises. I wonder who will it be next?

Winston

pre 12 godina

Are the Albanians here saying that the US/EU does not pressure, and the Albanians bribe, countries to recognize pristina's UDI? If you don't, you really are living in some kind of dreamland. But what is more important, what did Thaci and the KLA do with the bodies of victims they took organs out of? That is more important than this diplomacy fiasco. The US always plays dirty, so these recognitions mean little.

Demi

pre 12 godina

Are the Albanians here saying that the US/EU does not pressure, and the Albanians bribe, countries to recognize pristina's UDI? If you don't, you really are living in some kind of dreamland. But what is more important, what did Thaci and the KLA do with the bodies of victims they took organs out of? That is more important than this diplomacy fiasco. The US always plays dirty, so these recognitions mean little.
(Winston, 8 September 2011 18:21


The US and Kosovo ofcourse pressure states to recognize our independence. This is called lobby and we do it in a democratic way. We do not bribe or threat countrys or leaders to recognize us. We belive that in that way it the lobby would not work since we belive that countrys and leaders have principles. You serbs live in a dreamland beliving in lies of Jeremic that albanians bribe countrys to recognize us. So we bribed Japan and Sweden to recognize us?? Sounds silly Mister!!

The biggest dreamland you live in is beliving that Kosovo are or ever can be Serbian. You wrelly must be on some strong stuff dreaming about such a thing. Kosovo dont need more than US recognition to fullfill it's goal to be a country and to extend it powers through the whole territory. Every other recognition is just a plus!!

When it comes to the ''organ firytale'' there are no serbian victims. The story is false! KLA (UCK) did fight an clean war against Serbia to make Kosovo independent. That is why no KLA leader has been convicted for crimes against serbs in the Haag tribunal. 40 + serbs have been convicted for massacres and war crimes against civilans. That sayes alote about the crimes in Kosovo. And until today we dont know anything of bodyparts of albanians missing wich serbian military forces has buried all aurond Serbia.

So you are not ina position to play the victim because you were the aggressor. The world knowes that!!

As for this article on revoked recognition of Kosovo from various states we know by now that it is not true. Kosovo leaders and the media in Kosovo has confirmed it. You serbs will never win against the albanians.

Winston

pre 12 godina

This is sweet. I am happy to see that the US's/EU's pressuring, and the Albanians' dirty drug money, cannot always get the recognitions they so dearly want. There still are people and countries that place ethics, justice, and respect for national sovereignty above money. Bravo to these few. There is nothing sweeter than to see the imperialist Empire, and the Albanian mafia, get a poke in the eye.

OTAN Brussels

pre 12 godina

LOL!!! And the truth comes out. If you look beneath the surface, many of these so-called recognitions are either false, non-binding or only implicit.

For instance, the Czech republic's recognition becomes legal when an ambassador is assigned to Pristina and since the president Václav Klaus is against recognition, he has declined to assign such an ambassador. In this case, the recognition is a dud.

In the case of New Zealand, it was an implicit recognition, meaning a note was sent stating communication between Wellington and Pristina would go through the ambassador in London. There was no mention of recognition by the government and neither was it reported in the press.

Now that the UDI has set a dangerous precedent, notably in Georgia and more interestingly in Israel, I can tell you that some people are getting worried. The fact that NATO are attempting to seal Kosovo's borders now is no coincidence. The game is changing rapidly and even though Albanians are pragmatic when aligning themselves with various occupational forces (Ottomans, Nazi's and NATO), their timing normally backfires on them.

Look, there is no love for either Albanians or Serbians. Up until now, Geopolitical conditions (i.e., Germany and Saudi Arabia) have ensured that Albanians, Croatians and Bosniaks get support. However, now that Israel has an opposing interest, a new battle begins.

spygrant

pre 12 godina

Oman delegation head informed the Serbian officials that Oman had never recognized Kosovo even though Priština had celebrated it. this is now beginning to sound like children telling stories to adults,if any one in here thinks recognition will be annulled is dreaming big time.most of these officials are two face idiots they say one thing here and when they go back to there country they do the other,just to keep both sides happy. Kosovo stop worrying about who recognized you or did not , USA, Germany France, UK,is OK for u guys,stop building houses that no one will live,its too much,instead build factories so ur citizens will av jobs. Serbians focus on Ur EU part,learn to respect countries around you.its only a wast of time trying to pull Kosovo down because you will surly go down with them, Kosovo is independent now not even america can take that away from them.do you know what freedom feels like? this is not the 90's any more.so both sides should learn to live in peace.

Mark

pre 12 godina

Oh Jeremic's "diplomatic victories" pile up.

Guinea-Bissau recognized Kosovo on January 14,2011.Their letter to Kosovo's MFA says:“President of the Republic of Guinea-Bissau, His Excellency Malam Bacai, renders his compliments to the Government of the Republic of Guinea-Bissau and notifies it that the relevant authorities of the Republic of Guinea-Bissau recognized independence and sovereignty of the Republic of Kosovo, and expresses a desire for the swift establishment of diplomatic relations”.

Oman has established diplomatic relation with Kosovo since February 4.Their letter to the Kosovo's foreing ministry says:“In acknowledging the decision of the International Court of Justice on the independence of Kosovo, the Government of the Sultanate of Oman will welcome Kosovo’s membership to the United Nations, as well as to other international and regional organizations it wishes to join”.

B92 can get the original documents from Kosovo's MFA or contact the governments of these countries. So until you serbs provide official proof of Jeremic's claims,it is just propoganda for serbian internal use.

trizo

pre 12 godina

The only chance you Albanians have of keeping these kind of recognitions is if you played the fundamental Islam note, however, your own fake government just banned the hijab & religion teachings in schools.

Now the children of Kosovo will grow without being indoctrinated and instead find truths for themselves through history.. at least it will be more fair this way..

I'm certain they won't grow up trying to burn down Serbian churches because they will have no reason to do so, they won't be taught to hate Serbians.

Recognitions based purely on religion will start to fade.

Bloody Mary

pre 12 godina

Obviously, Americans do not want to see him being the president. ;-)
(Ataman, 9 September 2011 13:13)

Really? http://euobserver.com/24/31926

alis

pre 12 godina

who gives a damn for OMAN anyways as long as United State of America and UK and GERMANY Lives we dont care for any other contrey..so now you serbs have much to talk about OMAN and your vuk jermic prapaganda.

Analyst

pre 12 godina

"The US and Kosovo ofcourse pressure states to recognize our independence. This is called lobby and we do it in a democratic way. We do not bribe or threat countrys or leaders to recognize us. We belive that in that way it the lobby would not work since we belive that countrys and leaders have principles. You serbs live in a dreamland beliving in lies of Jeremic that albanians bribe countrys to recognize us. So we bribed Japan and Sweden to recognize us??"
(Demi, 8 September 2011 20:46)
How funny. Then, please tell my why the 'Albanian businessman' Mr. Pacolli became Kosovo's deputy PM? What kind of minister is he, anyway? The minister for lobbying (==buying) recognitions?

Ataman

pre 12 godina

But I also can't say that I'm not smiling upon reading this.
(Mike, 8 September 2011 15:57)

I am not. I believe, a few previous recognitions did happen with at least a silent nod from Gazprom - the goal was to put someone whom they regard at least potentially as "their man" into a posh chair in Pristina by popularity. Who's his wife? This is kid of same game as who is the wife of Bühler, just from the other side.

It could be a long-lasting geo-political chess game. No wonder, Americans got into panic mode as Pacolli became the president - and they were quick to remove him.

Nothing particular, just the old CIA - versus - NKVD/KGB games. With Pacolli I see the signature of KGB, with removing him - the signature of CIA. And guess what: there is still a chance, he is totally impartial. But game is game and the ones who like to screw up our lives love to play such games.

Sorry - maybe all this is just a wild phantasy - but my distrust to ALL politicians can't be cured ;-)

By the way: with Pacolli in power - he promised he would get the "north" back by providing jobs. Obviously, that wasn't the #1 objective. I mean, the jobs.

Thaçi is in very dangerous position because he knows way to much. I would raise the life insurance premium of anyone who knows about CIA operations probably by 1000x factor. ;-)

That crap now is in the stage where everyone should just stay away from. These organizations with three letters are not Salvation Army.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

If the Serbs regain Kosovo will it treat the average K-Alb the same as it's own citizens? It makes sense though the only ones realisticaly able to eradicate the misery caused by all the gangs/clans and create some semblance of normality is Serbia.
(SD, 8 September 2011 15:01)

I wish that would happen - but than we are talking about an exemplary state union, not about Serbia as it is today. Yugoslavia clearly failed and not once - the solution is neither break up everything nor re-create a failure - but as the Founding Fathers of America envisioned: "a better union".

The problem is, one side wants to re-create the failure, the other side wants to break everything up. It is not going to work, but breaking up is easier to accomplish.

An other problem is, everyone who thinks about a "better union" is regarded with suspect to either becoming the leader of "Greater Albania", becoming a "new Tito" or some sort of "pan-slavic leader". That makes of course a negative selection process.

It has to be the wish of sufficiently large part of population first and there is not enough momentum for such thing at this moment.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

who gives a damn for OMAN anyways as long as United State of America and UK and GERMANY Lives we dont care for any other contrey..so now you serbs have much to talk about OMAN and your vuk jermic prapaganda.
(alis, 8 September 2011 15:25)

"who gives a damn for NETHERLANDS anyways as long as Russian Federation and Brasil and CHINA Lives we dont care for any other contrey..so now you albanians have much to talk about NETHERLANDS and your thaçi propaganda."

Somehow sounds the same for me. ;-)

(Except that Oman became a great country and the #1 vacation target for Rocky only few month ago overnight).

These recognitions and counter-recognitions largely mean nothing. The game was started by Dubya and Tony a while ago with the pre-mature creation of that thing, good for nothing and essentially meaningless.

I am even saying, good number of recognitions was bought by Russia - you probably think I am insane. Maybe, but it's not an insanity. Just think a bit.

Now that does not matter anymore, so I can talk what I think. ;-)

resident of Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada

pre 12 godina

I understand that this type of news is a setback to pro-independence Kosovars but as far as I'm concerned it cannot mean that Kosovo has "officially" returned to its status as a province of Serbia (at least not for now.)

Whether it's of major or minor consolation,I trust that Canada has so far not rescinded its recognition of Kosovo and if there are any Canadians who oppose Kosovo insisting that it's sovereign,hopefully they might be unsuccessful in persuading Ottawa(Canada's capital) to rescind its recognition of Kosovo.Finally and only if it's true that Kosovar politicians were bribing other nations to recognize Kosovo's sovereignty than I'm afraid that's not the way to achieve recognition even though some people may not like what I just typed now and even though I'm not discouraging pro-independence Kosovars in achieving their dreams.

Pls say it ain't so!!

pre 12 godina

Ataman,

you're to depressing a desperate. You're life is revolving around this site. You're going to get a heart attack soon; I'm worried mate :)

Anonymous

pre 12 godina

To all the albanians sayig that oman and guinea bissau didnt revoke their recognitions, you really are fools. Serbia is obviously not lying about this since the countries have not denied what they said to Vuk Jeremic. I challenge you to find me one article or official statement from oman or guinea bissau that states the rrcognition was not repealed. You albanians are just mad that they repealed their recognitons and that two other countries are going through the process of repealing their recognitions.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 12 godina

LOL!!! What are they going to report? That they revoked a recognition they never made? They never even reported the recognition so why report anything at all now?

(OTAN Brussels, 8 September 2011 18:10)

Good comment for your consumption, but where is the logic?
If they have never recognized Kosova, there is nothing to revoke.
Ask yourself once again , what is wrong with this news?

Demi

pre 12 godina

How funny. Then, please tell my why the 'Albanian businessman' Mr. Pacolli became Kosovo's deputy PM? What kind of minister is he, anyway? The minister for lobbying (==buying) recognitions?
(Analyst, 8 September 2011 21:28)

His party is part of the goverment of Kosovo. He have a post where he can contribute to the welfare of Kosovo. What is the problem with that?

And if your conclusion is right that he buyes of countrys then I bet Serbia has more money than Mr.Pacolli so they can pay even more. Is Serbia not willing to pay money to ''fight for Kosovo''? Haven't Serbia the economy to compete with Mr.Pacolli??

It is BS that Mr.Pacolli payes for recogntion. You have no fact about that!! You have no fact about nothing but you still draw conclusion that things are like you dream of.

But anyway every recognition is a recogntion. When Kosovo has over 95 recognition then the majority of the world recognize Kosovo.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

Send in the clowns! or did I mean bring on the trolls.
(miles, 8 September 2011 09:52)

LOL they didn't disappoint us today! :)

Sam, UK

pre 12 godina

So why don't they just rescind the recognitions now? Although on the Albanian side where is this CARICOM recognition? Jeremic and Pacolli are as embarassing as each other.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

Was it a case of reversing my car to be able to drive forward or two mates running a protection racket?
(MMM, 8 September 2011 17:49)

This is the case to let Pacolli gain popularity among Albanians and put him in the chair of the president. IMO Pacolli is largely Moscow's man and this is why he was removed by American demand.

You probably know that he has extensive ties through both business and relatives to Moscow.

Regardless, he is the only guy who has an acceptable plan to integrate the "north" (via jobs in construction business - obviously not without some little help from his allies and relatives).

That plan was no good - now violence speaks, Balkan at it's greatest.
If few more recognitions from Kingdom of Mbeka Mbuku and similar are needed to make him president - I don't mind. I want to see him being the president and than we will see how it goes. Obviously, Americans do not want to see him being the president. ;-)

Ataman

pre 12 godina

Really? [link]
(Bloody Mary, 9 September 2011 18:06)

Really - or at least I think that some people in the "command center" around Washington DC and the Pentagon did object the wallpaper of his office. Some feel uncomfortable with the view. Even if it may have other explanation.

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/2182/pacolli.jpg

Analyst

pre 12 godina

"And if your conclusion is right that he buyes of countrys then I bet Serbia has more money than Mr.Pacolli so they can pay even more. Is Serbia not willing to pay money to ''fight for Kosovo''? Haven't Serbia the economy to compete with Mr.Pacolli?? "
(Demi, 9 September 2011 00:36)

The typical Kosovo attitude: You can buy everything: Votes in elections, recognitions in Africa, organs in Pristina hospitals, public works for your street construction company, and so on... In case you shouldn't know: The civilized world is not like that, it's simply not customary in normal countries.

"It is BS that Mr.Pacolli payes for recogntion. You have no fact about that!! You have no fact about nothing but you still draw conclusion that things are like you dream of. "
(Demi, 9 September 2011 00:36)

From the article: “Two more countries have annnounced withdrawal of their decisions and it should be announced soon, and there is an investigation in an African country against a top official who took money from an Albanian businessman to push for the decision about the recognition,“ Blic pointed out.

Is it so hard to read? I'm 100% sure the name of this 'Albanian Businessman' starts with a 'Pac' and ends with an 'li'. Furthermore, Mr. Pacolli, before he became politician and bribe minister in Kosovo, proudly annouced that he was responsible for a number of recognitions. You must be really living in a dream world not to interpret that he payed for it. How else could he 'lobby' countries? I have always wondered how can be someone that stupid: If I bribe someone, I would keep my mouth shut and hope that it will stay under the carpet, and not announce it in the public.

MMM

pre 12 godina

I am even saying, good number of recognitions was bought by Russia - you probably think I am insane. Maybe, but it's not an insanity. Just think a bit.

Now that does not matter anymore, so I can talk what I think. ;-)(Ataman, 8 September 2011 16:05)


Was it a case of reversing my car to be able to drive forward or two mates running a protection racket?

alis

pre 12 godina

am saying this to all of you who dont no nathing about politiks and propoganda stuff,just see the reality in your on contrey dont talk about russia and chine brazil do you realy think that russains care about serbs come on who gave a green light to bomb serbia in 1999 dont comment on somthing that evry single day you serbs and albo talk about serbs did that albo did that who cares anymore what you did as long as you have money you have the power,and who makes the money and who decide that this contrey is going to be reach for 20 year and after that down to earth off course VATIKAN AMERICAN ENGLAND and THATS IT...why SNS party whent to brussel last week can any comment on that why TITO broke up with russia and he turn out to europe why any serbs what to comment on that to..

Pls say it ain't so!!

pre 12 godina

Is it so hard to read? I'm 100% sure the name of this 'Albanian Businessman' starts with a 'Pac' and ends with an 'li'. Furthermore, Mr. Pacolli, before he became politician and bribe minister in Kosovo, proudly annouced that he was responsible for a number of recognitions. You must be really living in a dream world not to interpret that he payed for it. How else could he 'lobby' countries? I have always wondered how can be someone that stupid: If I bribe someone, I would keep my mouth shut and hope that it will stay under the carpet, and not announce it in the public.
(Analyst, 10 September 2011 14:01)

Hey Analyst, it's a war....

You use guns and whatever it takes, we use money (if you insist).

The name of the game is, who gets there first; and we're wayyyyy ahead.

Yes I did; I did say so!!!!!

Bam Bam

pre 12 godina

These 2 countries are so far down the scale of importance its almost laughable. If thats the best the serbs can muster up then god help us all.

miles

pre 12 godina

My God, I can't believe it, is sanity, international law and peaceful resistance going to win over drugs money, guns, and thievery supported by the old imperialists? Will I have to lay my cynicism to rest? Is there a bright inclusive future for all of us, including our Albanian brothers?

Send in the clowns! or did I mean bring on the trolls.

Une

pre 12 godina

Lol. Jeremic is getting desperate. Now he is just lying according to the Kosova foreign ministry there is no withdraw and there will be no withdraw. Lol

Anonymous

pre 12 godina

I have honestly never been more happy in my life. I literally jumpe din the air when I read this headline. By the way 2 more countries are expected to withdraw their recognitions of the UDI and one country might withdraw it after it investigates one of its officials that was bribed by Bexhet Pacolli. So 4 recognition withdrawls! Maybe another one from that African country that is investigating its official too!

usaSERB

pre 12 godina

Wonderful news! World is slowly but surely catching on. Wonder what albanian trolls have to say now. Let me guess… Never mined… I will let albanian trolls speak for themselves.I need some laughs.

New Zealander

pre 12 godina

Interesting to see how in 2 minutes the down votes on the pro-morals comments go from about 0 to 13 or so, nice to see our Albanian friends rigging the votes, It only helps destroy their case and reinforce the stereotype

Woland

pre 12 godina

Serbian media doing what it does best, and that is to feed its people with lies and dirty propaganda.
(Kosova-USA, 8 September 2011 10:20)

Read and weep, my friend.

ben

pre 12 godina

To follow the Serbian logic explained in person by their chief diplomat Jeremic, I presume that the Serbian offer to Oman and G. Bissau was more generous :)

PRO-SERBIA

pre 12 godina

Definitely more withdrawals will happen in the coming weeks. Kosovo UDI will FAIL. Thaci and Co. will not have a choice but to agree for an Greater Autonomy deal with Belgrade.

Bloody Mary

pre 12 godina

How can Oman withdraw a recognition that at least according to this article has never happened? If we had recognized Kosovo we would withdraw the recognition now but since we haven't...???

alis

pre 12 godina

who gives a damn for OMAN anyways as long as United State of America and UK and GERMANY Lives we dont care for any other contrey..so now you serbs have much to talk about OMAN and your vuk jermic prapaganda.

Demi

pre 12 godina

Are the Albanians here saying that the US/EU does not pressure, and the Albanians bribe, countries to recognize pristina's UDI? If you don't, you really are living in some kind of dreamland. But what is more important, what did Thaci and the KLA do with the bodies of victims they took organs out of? That is more important than this diplomacy fiasco. The US always plays dirty, so these recognitions mean little.
(Winston, 8 September 2011 18:21


The US and Kosovo ofcourse pressure states to recognize our independence. This is called lobby and we do it in a democratic way. We do not bribe or threat countrys or leaders to recognize us. We belive that in that way it the lobby would not work since we belive that countrys and leaders have principles. You serbs live in a dreamland beliving in lies of Jeremic that albanians bribe countrys to recognize us. So we bribed Japan and Sweden to recognize us?? Sounds silly Mister!!

The biggest dreamland you live in is beliving that Kosovo are or ever can be Serbian. You wrelly must be on some strong stuff dreaming about such a thing. Kosovo dont need more than US recognition to fullfill it's goal to be a country and to extend it powers through the whole territory. Every other recognition is just a plus!!

When it comes to the ''organ firytale'' there are no serbian victims. The story is false! KLA (UCK) did fight an clean war against Serbia to make Kosovo independent. That is why no KLA leader has been convicted for crimes against serbs in the Haag tribunal. 40 + serbs have been convicted for massacres and war crimes against civilans. That sayes alote about the crimes in Kosovo. And until today we dont know anything of bodyparts of albanians missing wich serbian military forces has buried all aurond Serbia.

So you are not ina position to play the victim because you were the aggressor. The world knowes that!!

As for this article on revoked recognition of Kosovo from various states we know by now that it is not true. Kosovo leaders and the media in Kosovo has confirmed it. You serbs will never win against the albanians.

New Zealander

pre 12 godina

These 2 countries are so far down the scale of importance its almost laughable. If thats the best the serbs can muster up then god help us all.
(Bam Bam, 8 September 2011 10:36)

Thats not what you guys said when they (or Somalia for that matter) recognised Kosovo as independent in the first place. By the way, someone should start checking these recognitions, several of the last few seem very suspicious, I couldnt find anything from their governments/Ministries of Foreign affairs (Notably the Andorran and 14 Carribean ones)

spygrant

pre 12 godina

Oman delegation head informed the Serbian officials that Oman had never recognized Kosovo even though Priština had celebrated it. this is now beginning to sound like children telling stories to adults,if any one in here thinks recognition will be annulled is dreaming big time.most of these officials are two face idiots they say one thing here and when they go back to there country they do the other,just to keep both sides happy. Kosovo stop worrying about who recognized you or did not , USA, Germany France, UK,is OK for u guys,stop building houses that no one will live,its too much,instead build factories so ur citizens will av jobs. Serbians focus on Ur EU part,learn to respect countries around you.its only a wast of time trying to pull Kosovo down because you will surly go down with them, Kosovo is independent now not even america can take that away from them.do you know what freedom feels like? this is not the 90's any more.so both sides should learn to live in peace.

Englebert

pre 12 godina

These 2 countries are so far down the scale of importance its almost laughable. If thats the best the serbs can muster up then god help us all.
(Bam Bam, 8 September 2011 10:36)

I seem to recall Albanians wildly celebrating when some country unheard of by 99% of the world recognized the stillborn state because it was the principle of recogntion. The same goes for Serbs, I would argue. If this is true, then it is a huge moral victory for Serbia, regardless of the state's importance in the global sphere.

PEN

pre 12 godina

The only reason NATO ie USA drove the independence agenda was for their own geo political and strategic interests. A perfect location to establish, free of any local domestic considerations, (you know like rent) a logistics and intel asset to eavesdrop on activity in the near East and Russia. The rest is just hot air. Those countries not bullied or bribed into recognition know this only too well. Particularly the big Islamic states. Thus strong armed recognitions will begin to evaporate. Time is beginning to tell.

Janez-Beograd

pre 12 godina

who gives a damn for OMAN anyways as long as United State of America and UK and GERMANY Lives we dont care for any other contrey..so now you serbs have much to talk about OMAN and your vuk jermic prapaganda.
(alis, 8 September 2011 15:25)

Another Albanian hyper nationalist keyboard warrior living in the Glorious Socialist Peoples Makebelief Fantasy Kingdom of Illyria. You are not independent until Belgrade says so. Kapiche?

How do you say that in Klingon? Is there room on the spaceship?

Beam me up Scotty.

J.Oker

pre 12 godina

“Two more countries have annnounced withdrawal of their decisions and it should be announced soon, and there is an investigation in an African country against a top official who took money from an Albanian businessman to push for the decision about the recognition,“ Blic pointed out.

Oh, who could it be, this Albanian 'businessman'? Any guess? :)

Dragan

pre 12 godina

It was bound to happen, and just goes to show what a fake 'state' Kosovo is, which will hever, ever, have legitimacy. I certainly expect more withdrawals as the world realizes what we already know.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/MAC404A.html
Truth is on our side, keep on spreading it.
Cheers!!

OTAN Brussels

pre 12 godina

LOL!!! And the truth comes out. If you look beneath the surface, many of these so-called recognitions are either false, non-binding or only implicit.

For instance, the Czech republic's recognition becomes legal when an ambassador is assigned to Pristina and since the president Václav Klaus is against recognition, he has declined to assign such an ambassador. In this case, the recognition is a dud.

In the case of New Zealand, it was an implicit recognition, meaning a note was sent stating communication between Wellington and Pristina would go through the ambassador in London. There was no mention of recognition by the government and neither was it reported in the press.

Now that the UDI has set a dangerous precedent, notably in Georgia and more interestingly in Israel, I can tell you that some people are getting worried. The fact that NATO are attempting to seal Kosovo's borders now is no coincidence. The game is changing rapidly and even though Albanians are pragmatic when aligning themselves with various occupational forces (Ottomans, Nazi's and NATO), their timing normally backfires on them.

Look, there is no love for either Albanians or Serbians. Up until now, Geopolitical conditions (i.e., Germany and Saudi Arabia) have ensured that Albanians, Croatians and Bosniaks get support. However, now that Israel has an opposing interest, a new battle begins.

SD

pre 12 godina

Interesting times ahead.
If the Serbs regain Kosovo will it treat the average K-Alb the same as it's own citizens? It makes sense though the only ones realisticaly able to eradicate the misery caused by all the gangs/clans and create some semblance of normality is Serbia.

Winston

pre 12 godina

This is sweet. I am happy to see that the US's/EU's pressuring, and the Albanians' dirty drug money, cannot always get the recognitions they so dearly want. There still are people and countries that place ethics, justice, and respect for national sovereignty above money. Bravo to these few. There is nothing sweeter than to see the imperialist Empire, and the Albanian mafia, get a poke in the eye.

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

The beginning of the end.

Your still born child is losing is facing a slow but sure death. The USA does not have more dollars to print for your creation.

The American, English, German people are going to ask where there tax dollars are really going to. They do NOT want to help you. Never did. Just corrupt governments with special interests took up your cause. As cash gets limited in these countries, the people will start asking where this money goes too especially in terms of foreign interests.

When the West pulls support not because they want too, but because the govt HAS too.. you will HAVE too negotiate autonomy within Serbia or be deported back to Albania.

There is no other choice.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

If the Serbs regain Kosovo will it treat the average K-Alb the same as it's own citizens? It makes sense though the only ones realisticaly able to eradicate the misery caused by all the gangs/clans and create some semblance of normality is Serbia.
(SD, 8 September 2011 15:01)

I wish that would happen - but than we are talking about an exemplary state union, not about Serbia as it is today. Yugoslavia clearly failed and not once - the solution is neither break up everything nor re-create a failure - but as the Founding Fathers of America envisioned: "a better union".

The problem is, one side wants to re-create the failure, the other side wants to break everything up. It is not going to work, but breaking up is easier to accomplish.

An other problem is, everyone who thinks about a "better union" is regarded with suspect to either becoming the leader of "Greater Albania", becoming a "new Tito" or some sort of "pan-slavic leader". That makes of course a negative selection process.

It has to be the wish of sufficiently large part of population first and there is not enough momentum for such thing at this moment.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

But I also can't say that I'm not smiling upon reading this.
(Mike, 8 September 2011 15:57)

I am not. I believe, a few previous recognitions did happen with at least a silent nod from Gazprom - the goal was to put someone whom they regard at least potentially as "their man" into a posh chair in Pristina by popularity. Who's his wife? This is kid of same game as who is the wife of Bühler, just from the other side.

It could be a long-lasting geo-political chess game. No wonder, Americans got into panic mode as Pacolli became the president - and they were quick to remove him.

Nothing particular, just the old CIA - versus - NKVD/KGB games. With Pacolli I see the signature of KGB, with removing him - the signature of CIA. And guess what: there is still a chance, he is totally impartial. But game is game and the ones who like to screw up our lives love to play such games.

Sorry - maybe all this is just a wild phantasy - but my distrust to ALL politicians can't be cured ;-)

By the way: with Pacolli in power - he promised he would get the "north" back by providing jobs. Obviously, that wasn't the #1 objective. I mean, the jobs.

Thaçi is in very dangerous position because he knows way to much. I would raise the life insurance premium of anyone who knows about CIA operations probably by 1000x factor. ;-)

That crap now is in the stage where everyone should just stay away from. These organizations with three letters are not Salvation Army.

OTAN Brussels

pre 12 godina

I'm in Oman an no such news has been reported here !!!
(Igor, 8 September 2011 16:28)

LOL!!! What are they going to report? That they revoked a recognition they never made? They never even reported the recognition so why report anything at all now?

There is very very little news about the last 30 odd recognitions. So what was the deal? Pristina announces a recognition while the said country (president, dictator, etc...) just keeps quiet and in exchange they get a suitcase full of freshly printed US dollars?

If the Serbs up north hold out a little longer, it will be game over for Thaci very soon.

Mike

pre 12 godina

Well this is interesting. I can't say that a withdrawal of recognition of these two countries is really going to change the playing field since the previous (or apparent) recognition of those two countries weren't diplomatic game changers. But I also can't say that I'm not smiling upon reading this.

alis

pre 12 godina

am saying this to all of you who dont no nathing about politiks and propoganda stuff,just see the reality in your on contrey dont talk about russia and chine brazil do you realy think that russains care about serbs come on who gave a green light to bomb serbia in 1999 dont comment on somthing that evry single day you serbs and albo talk about serbs did that albo did that who cares anymore what you did as long as you have money you have the power,and who makes the money and who decide that this contrey is going to be reach for 20 year and after that down to earth off course VATIKAN AMERICAN ENGLAND and THATS IT...why SNS party whent to brussel last week can any comment on that why TITO broke up with russia and he turn out to europe why any serbs what to comment on that to..

Ataman

pre 12 godina

Really? [link]
(Bloody Mary, 9 September 2011 18:06)

Really - or at least I think that some people in the "command center" around Washington DC and the Pentagon did object the wallpaper of his office. Some feel uncomfortable with the view. Even if it may have other explanation.

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/2182/pacolli.jpg

Mladen

pre 12 godina

who gives a damn for OMAN anyways as long as United State of America and UK and GERMANY Lives we dont care for any other contrey..so now you serbs have much to talk about OMAN and your vuk jermic prapaganda.
(alis, 8 September 2011 15:25)

Open your eyes and see the millions in the unemployment lines... Other than Germany, the US and UK are in a massive depression that is only going to get worse(thank you Obama)... Germany is like Russia's best friend now and I think they would rather be good with Russia than to support you... Face it every day this whole world order is cracking and with its fall so will be yours

Janez-Beograd

pre 12 godina

Oman and Guinea Bissau have withdrawn their decisions to recognize Kosovo’s independence, Belgrade-based daily Blic writes.

Oh dear, oh dear :-D

What do the Albanian hyper nationalist keyboard warriors have to say now?

I hope Mr. 147% choked on his cornflakes this morning.

Mark

pre 12 godina

Oh Jeremic's "diplomatic victories" pile up.

Guinea-Bissau recognized Kosovo on January 14,2011.Their letter to Kosovo's MFA says:“President of the Republic of Guinea-Bissau, His Excellency Malam Bacai, renders his compliments to the Government of the Republic of Guinea-Bissau and notifies it that the relevant authorities of the Republic of Guinea-Bissau recognized independence and sovereignty of the Republic of Kosovo, and expresses a desire for the swift establishment of diplomatic relations”.

Oman has established diplomatic relation with Kosovo since February 4.Their letter to the Kosovo's foreing ministry says:“In acknowledging the decision of the International Court of Justice on the independence of Kosovo, the Government of the Sultanate of Oman will welcome Kosovo’s membership to the United Nations, as well as to other international and regional organizations it wishes to join”.

B92 can get the original documents from Kosovo's MFA or contact the governments of these countries. So until you serbs provide official proof of Jeremic's claims,it is just propoganda for serbian internal use.

Analyst

pre 12 godina

"And if your conclusion is right that he buyes of countrys then I bet Serbia has more money than Mr.Pacolli so they can pay even more. Is Serbia not willing to pay money to ''fight for Kosovo''? Haven't Serbia the economy to compete with Mr.Pacolli?? "
(Demi, 9 September 2011 00:36)

The typical Kosovo attitude: You can buy everything: Votes in elections, recognitions in Africa, organs in Pristina hospitals, public works for your street construction company, and so on... In case you shouldn't know: The civilized world is not like that, it's simply not customary in normal countries.

"It is BS that Mr.Pacolli payes for recogntion. You have no fact about that!! You have no fact about nothing but you still draw conclusion that things are like you dream of. "
(Demi, 9 September 2011 00:36)

From the article: “Two more countries have annnounced withdrawal of their decisions and it should be announced soon, and there is an investigation in an African country against a top official who took money from an Albanian businessman to push for the decision about the recognition,“ Blic pointed out.

Is it so hard to read? I'm 100% sure the name of this 'Albanian Businessman' starts with a 'Pac' and ends with an 'li'. Furthermore, Mr. Pacolli, before he became politician and bribe minister in Kosovo, proudly annouced that he was responsible for a number of recognitions. You must be really living in a dream world not to interpret that he payed for it. How else could he 'lobby' countries? I have always wondered how can be someone that stupid: If I bribe someone, I would keep my mouth shut and hope that it will stay under the carpet, and not announce it in the public.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

who gives a damn for OMAN anyways as long as United State of America and UK and GERMANY Lives we dont care for any other contrey..so now you serbs have much to talk about OMAN and your vuk jermic prapaganda.
(alis, 8 September 2011 15:25)

"who gives a damn for NETHERLANDS anyways as long as Russian Federation and Brasil and CHINA Lives we dont care for any other contrey..so now you albanians have much to talk about NETHERLANDS and your thaçi propaganda."

Somehow sounds the same for me. ;-)

(Except that Oman became a great country and the #1 vacation target for Rocky only few month ago overnight).

These recognitions and counter-recognitions largely mean nothing. The game was started by Dubya and Tony a while ago with the pre-mature creation of that thing, good for nothing and essentially meaningless.

I am even saying, good number of recognitions was bought by Russia - you probably think I am insane. Maybe, but it's not an insanity. Just think a bit.

Now that does not matter anymore, so I can talk what I think. ;-)

trizo

pre 12 godina

The only chance you Albanians have of keeping these kind of recognitions is if you played the fundamental Islam note, however, your own fake government just banned the hijab & religion teachings in schools.

Now the children of Kosovo will grow without being indoctrinated and instead find truths for themselves through history.. at least it will be more fair this way..

I'm certain they won't grow up trying to burn down Serbian churches because they will have no reason to do so, they won't be taught to hate Serbians.

Recognitions based purely on religion will start to fade.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

Was it a case of reversing my car to be able to drive forward or two mates running a protection racket?
(MMM, 8 September 2011 17:49)

This is the case to let Pacolli gain popularity among Albanians and put him in the chair of the president. IMO Pacolli is largely Moscow's man and this is why he was removed by American demand.

You probably know that he has extensive ties through both business and relatives to Moscow.

Regardless, he is the only guy who has an acceptable plan to integrate the "north" (via jobs in construction business - obviously not without some little help from his allies and relatives).

That plan was no good - now violence speaks, Balkan at it's greatest.
If few more recognitions from Kingdom of Mbeka Mbuku and similar are needed to make him president - I don't mind. I want to see him being the president and than we will see how it goes. Obviously, Americans do not want to see him being the president. ;-)

UNE

pre 12 godina

the article states that guinea bissau never recognised Kosovo Well read the letter that the president of Guineaa bissau sent Kosovo at kohaditore.com. LOL typical Serbian propaganda. Oman does not recognise countries but it just accepts them if it pleases them and establishes embassies. Soon to open one from Kosova in Oman. Read their website of foreign affairs. LOL what a joke the serbian political scene is.

Is this another one just like Poland will withdraw recognition also Poland will withdraw recognition. I wonder what has Jeremic acting this way. Anytime he does this some big country recognises. I wonder who will it be next?

Analyst

pre 12 godina

"The US and Kosovo ofcourse pressure states to recognize our independence. This is called lobby and we do it in a democratic way. We do not bribe or threat countrys or leaders to recognize us. We belive that in that way it the lobby would not work since we belive that countrys and leaders have principles. You serbs live in a dreamland beliving in lies of Jeremic that albanians bribe countrys to recognize us. So we bribed Japan and Sweden to recognize us??"
(Demi, 8 September 2011 20:46)
How funny. Then, please tell my why the 'Albanian businessman' Mr. Pacolli became Kosovo's deputy PM? What kind of minister is he, anyway? The minister for lobbying (==buying) recognitions?

Demi

pre 12 godina

How funny. Then, please tell my why the 'Albanian businessman' Mr. Pacolli became Kosovo's deputy PM? What kind of minister is he, anyway? The minister for lobbying (==buying) recognitions?
(Analyst, 8 September 2011 21:28)

His party is part of the goverment of Kosovo. He have a post where he can contribute to the welfare of Kosovo. What is the problem with that?

And if your conclusion is right that he buyes of countrys then I bet Serbia has more money than Mr.Pacolli so they can pay even more. Is Serbia not willing to pay money to ''fight for Kosovo''? Haven't Serbia the economy to compete with Mr.Pacolli??

It is BS that Mr.Pacolli payes for recogntion. You have no fact about that!! You have no fact about nothing but you still draw conclusion that things are like you dream of.

But anyway every recognition is a recogntion. When Kosovo has over 95 recognition then the majority of the world recognize Kosovo.

Bloody Mary

pre 12 godina

Obviously, Americans do not want to see him being the president. ;-)
(Ataman, 9 September 2011 13:13)

Really? http://euobserver.com/24/31926

MMM

pre 12 godina

I am even saying, good number of recognitions was bought by Russia - you probably think I am insane. Maybe, but it's not an insanity. Just think a bit.

Now that does not matter anymore, so I can talk what I think. ;-)(Ataman, 8 September 2011 16:05)


Was it a case of reversing my car to be able to drive forward or two mates running a protection racket?

Winston

pre 12 godina

Are the Albanians here saying that the US/EU does not pressure, and the Albanians bribe, countries to recognize pristina's UDI? If you don't, you really are living in some kind of dreamland. But what is more important, what did Thaci and the KLA do with the bodies of victims they took organs out of? That is more important than this diplomacy fiasco. The US always plays dirty, so these recognitions mean little.

resident of Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada

pre 12 godina

I understand that this type of news is a setback to pro-independence Kosovars but as far as I'm concerned it cannot mean that Kosovo has "officially" returned to its status as a province of Serbia (at least not for now.)

Whether it's of major or minor consolation,I trust that Canada has so far not rescinded its recognition of Kosovo and if there are any Canadians who oppose Kosovo insisting that it's sovereign,hopefully they might be unsuccessful in persuading Ottawa(Canada's capital) to rescind its recognition of Kosovo.Finally and only if it's true that Kosovar politicians were bribing other nations to recognize Kosovo's sovereignty than I'm afraid that's not the way to achieve recognition even though some people may not like what I just typed now and even though I'm not discouraging pro-independence Kosovars in achieving their dreams.

Sam, UK

pre 12 godina

So why don't they just rescind the recognitions now? Although on the Albanian side where is this CARICOM recognition? Jeremic and Pacolli are as embarassing as each other.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

Send in the clowns! or did I mean bring on the trolls.
(miles, 8 September 2011 09:52)

LOL they didn't disappoint us today! :)

Anonymous

pre 12 godina

To all the albanians sayig that oman and guinea bissau didnt revoke their recognitions, you really are fools. Serbia is obviously not lying about this since the countries have not denied what they said to Vuk Jeremic. I challenge you to find me one article or official statement from oman or guinea bissau that states the rrcognition was not repealed. You albanians are just mad that they repealed their recognitons and that two other countries are going through the process of repealing their recognitions.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 12 godina

LOL!!! What are they going to report? That they revoked a recognition they never made? They never even reported the recognition so why report anything at all now?

(OTAN Brussels, 8 September 2011 18:10)

Good comment for your consumption, but where is the logic?
If they have never recognized Kosova, there is nothing to revoke.
Ask yourself once again , what is wrong with this news?

Pls say it ain't so!!

pre 12 godina

Ataman,

you're to depressing a desperate. You're life is revolving around this site. You're going to get a heart attack soon; I'm worried mate :)

Pls say it ain't so!!

pre 12 godina

Is it so hard to read? I'm 100% sure the name of this 'Albanian Businessman' starts with a 'Pac' and ends with an 'li'. Furthermore, Mr. Pacolli, before he became politician and bribe minister in Kosovo, proudly annouced that he was responsible for a number of recognitions. You must be really living in a dream world not to interpret that he payed for it. How else could he 'lobby' countries? I have always wondered how can be someone that stupid: If I bribe someone, I would keep my mouth shut and hope that it will stay under the carpet, and not announce it in the public.
(Analyst, 10 September 2011 14:01)

Hey Analyst, it's a war....

You use guns and whatever it takes, we use money (if you insist).

The name of the game is, who gets there first; and we're wayyyyy ahead.

Yes I did; I did say so!!!!!