K. Albanian team leader sees "Serbian recognition"

Edita must have gotten hit real hard in the head with a tomato a few days ago if she really believes that gunk :)

Well, she should be happy that it's still tomato season, it could have ben something worse, like eggs, or dog poop. Not everyone in KiM agrees with the whitewash statements of the Pristina mob. How did Serbia recognize the Albanian UDI, because of stamps? They do not mention the word Republic, Tahiri. Nice try, and how about some slanina with those tomatos?

"There are opposition parties that put their own interests before those of the state. That is precisely what the members of the Self-Determination Movement did. "

Why only opposition? That's precisely what Thaci does in the government: Using Kosovo as a gravy train for his buddies and family as well as a safe haven for his 'main business' without being harassed by the police.

Now that both sides celebrate this compromise as a victory and the opposition parties in Serbia and Kosovo are crying 'foul', it must have been a good solution reached that deserves to be called a compromise :)

"Well, she should be happy that it's still tomato season, it could have ben something worse, like eggs, or dog poop."
Winston

It could also have been heroin harvesting season. Then she would be in real trouble. According to latest stats Kosovo has more coca plants then tomatoe plants.

"It could also have been heroin harvesting season. Then she would be in real trouble. According to latest stats Kosovo has more coca plants then tomatoe plants. "
(Hank the Tank, 5 September 2011 17:04)

Nonsense! Everybody knows that Kosovo is the main hub for drugs in Europe, but it's not a producer - only import and export (these products don't depend on custom stamps, though) :)

Serbia's DSS party sees the same.

"K. Albanian team leader sees "Serbian recognition""

Everyone should feel free to see the glass with tomato juice half-full or half-empty to his/her liking. Add some vodka and you will get...

Now probably I am a dead meat. Oh, my...

Sure Tahiti. Keep holding your breath on that recognition, we'll all benefit if you do.

This time I have to agree with the albs. Looks more and more like Belgrade is trying to detach Kosovo from the minds of Serbs without actually recognizing its so called independence. Belgrade has agreed to everything else that would indicate that Kosovo is a state. The recognition might come when Serbia is on the doorstep to joining the EU. Serbs will be so excisted about joining that they won't care or even notice that Kosovo has been recognized. I hope with all my heart that I'm wrong. I guess only time will tell.

How did Serbia recognize the Albanian UDI, because of stamps? They do not mention the word Republic, Tahiri. Nice try, and how about some slanina with those tomatos?
(Winston, 5 September 2011 16:07)

I agree with you that the fact that Serbia recognized the "Kosovo Customs" does not mean it recognized Kosovo as a country. The reason is simple - because Serbia has said that it does not recognize Kosovo as country.

The word "Republic" being or not being (as it never was) in the stamp is irrelevant. There are many countries in the world which don't have the world "Republic" in their custom stamps and still Serbia recognizes them as a country.

Kosovo will be recognized by Serbia as a country and viceversa Serbia will be recognized by Kosovo as a country, when both parties say so, not because they may recognize each-others diplomas, custom stamps, passports, etc...

It could also have been heroin harvesting season. Then she would be in real trouble. According to latest stats Kosovo has more coca plants then tomatoe plants.
(Hank the Tank, 5 September 2011 17:04)

Climate change in the Balkans? http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080628110958AASEGV7 ...or "special person" blogging?

In the unlikely event that Belgrade ever accepted any level of statehood for the province of Kosovo, it could and would be easily reversible in the future.

There is not any recognition - just administrative pragmatism.

why did serbia place the ban in the first place? What changed?

What happened to the idea that the republic of kosovo "Couldnt" place a ban in the first place as that would be the actions of a state?

ah... while armchair serb apologists gather over the word republic...that little bit of discussion has dissipated into thin air now hasnt it? Kosovo COULD ban serbian goods.

We all watched as the republic of kosovo legally and responsibly sent officers to enforce a ban.

We all witnessed plain as day the reality the serbs still live in denial about.. the republic of serbia has NO legal authority of any kind within kosovo.

We all witnessed the embarrassment serbia had, in attempting to call on defunct agreements that did nothing but confirm serbias total lack of authority. We were all reminded, that each and every one of the institutions of the foreign govt. of serbia are all illegal under any agreement wich serbia can insists are still relevant.

We all witnessed the incredible restraint of the evil warmongering kosovo albanians as an officer was murdered by a serb coward while serbia shamefully incited and encouraged violence.

THAT is what serbia recognizes... Serbia has NO authority while the republic of kosovo IS the only legitimate legal authority in kosovo.

NOW the capitulation regarding Kosovo customs was absolutely neccessary.
Serbia is DESPERATE... Utterly and completely DESPERATE for the situation to return to the "stalemate" it was before.

This is all aimed at eulex and kfor mind you... by capitulating...and capitulation is exactly what it is. the hope beyond hope, is that with no ban to enforce, there is no "reason" for the govt. of kosovo to be at their own borders.

And Eulex and kfor can go back to Ignoring their own mandate of bringing the rule of law throughout kosovo because of the promise of violence by a handfull of serb criminals supported by serbia, but of whome serbia will of course disavow itself of any violence they perpetrate. Kosovo serbs as usual are just the fodder.

Serbia had to bail on customs, there is nothing they could have done. This is ALL inevitable mind you, but they didnt see it coming so quickly.

for all the desperate clinging serb apologists will do, Serbia Blinked. It had to for sake of trying to return to the status quo.

Trying yes, but Unfortunately for poor serbia, the bar has moved.

"The word "Republic" being or not being (as it never was) in the stamp is irrelevant. There are many countries in the world which don't have the world "Republic" in their custom stamps and still Serbia recognizes them as a country. "
(icj1, 5 September 2011 20:41)

True, especially the countries which don't call themselves 'republic' don't have the word on their stamp, like the USA :)

Was that the reason her own Albos were throwing things at her upon returning to Pristina following discussions with Serb officials?

she is right. There is no more opposition to Kosovo independence in the Serbian government anymore. Stamps mean indpendence. end of story. Serbia has recognized Kosovo independence. Fact. They think they won because it doesn't say Republic? That's so stupid I can't even believe it. It's just so dumb. No one in Serbia for Tadic cares about Kosovo anyway. Tadic is president because Serbs no longer care about Kosovo.

Was that the reason her own Albos were throwing things at her upon returning to Pristina following discussions with Serb officials?
(sj, 6 September 2011 01:32)

easy...its the same critisism regarding everything. Albanians are fair and honorable to a fault. So much so that many believe kosovo should just behave exactly like serbia does in every possible way.

can you imagine if the positions and leverage were reversed? how low would serbia have gone... to the detriment of all... to extend and twist and squeeze the situation for not only what it was worth, but everything it could get beyond what was fair?

Serbia is forced to accept stamps to become a EU candidate. Nobody speeks that Kosovo will be a EU candidate and a full UN member.

Serbia's DSS party sees the same.

Well, she should be happy that it's still tomato season, it could have ben something worse, like eggs, or dog poop. Not everyone in KiM agrees with the whitewash statements of the Pristina mob. How did Serbia recognize the Albanian UDI, because of stamps? They do not mention the word Republic, Tahiri. Nice try, and how about some slanina with those tomatos?

"Well, she should be happy that it's still tomato season, it could have ben something worse, like eggs, or dog poop."
Winston

It could also have been heroin harvesting season. Then she would be in real trouble. According to latest stats Kosovo has more coca plants then tomatoe plants.

Edita must have gotten hit real hard in the head with a tomato a few days ago if she really believes that gunk :)

"There are opposition parties that put their own interests before those of the state. That is precisely what the members of the Self-Determination Movement did. "

Why only opposition? That's precisely what Thaci does in the government: Using Kosovo as a gravy train for his buddies and family as well as a safe haven for his 'main business' without being harassed by the police.

How did Serbia recognize the Albanian UDI, because of stamps? They do not mention the word Republic, Tahiri. Nice try, and how about some slanina with those tomatos?
(Winston, 5 September 2011 16:07)

I agree with you that the fact that Serbia recognized the "Kosovo Customs" does not mean it recognized Kosovo as a country. The reason is simple - because Serbia has said that it does not recognize Kosovo as country.

The word "Republic" being or not being (as it never was) in the stamp is irrelevant. There are many countries in the world which don't have the world "Republic" in their custom stamps and still Serbia recognizes them as a country.

Kosovo will be recognized by Serbia as a country and viceversa Serbia will be recognized by Kosovo as a country, when both parties say so, not because they may recognize each-others diplomas, custom stamps, passports, etc...

"K. Albanian team leader sees "Serbian recognition""

Everyone should feel free to see the glass with tomato juice half-full or half-empty to his/her liking. Add some vodka and you will get...

Now probably I am a dead meat. Oh, my...

Sure Tahiti. Keep holding your breath on that recognition, we'll all benefit if you do.

This time I have to agree with the albs. Looks more and more like Belgrade is trying to detach Kosovo from the minds of Serbs without actually recognizing its so called independence. Belgrade has agreed to everything else that would indicate that Kosovo is a state. The recognition might come when Serbia is on the doorstep to joining the EU. Serbs will be so excisted about joining that they won't care or even notice that Kosovo has been recognized. I hope with all my heart that I'm wrong. I guess only time will tell.

Now that both sides celebrate this compromise as a victory and the opposition parties in Serbia and Kosovo are crying 'foul', it must have been a good solution reached that deserves to be called a compromise :)

It could also have been heroin harvesting season. Then she would be in real trouble. According to latest stats Kosovo has more coca plants then tomatoe plants.
(Hank the Tank, 5 September 2011 17:04)

Climate change in the Balkans? http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080628110958AASEGV7 ...or "special person" blogging?

"It could also have been heroin harvesting season. Then she would be in real trouble. According to latest stats Kosovo has more coca plants then tomatoe plants. "
(Hank the Tank, 5 September 2011 17:04)

Nonsense! Everybody knows that Kosovo is the main hub for drugs in Europe, but it's not a producer - only import and export (these products don't depend on custom stamps, though) :)

Was that the reason her own Albos were throwing things at her upon returning to Pristina following discussions with Serb officials?
(sj, 6 September 2011 01:32)

easy...its the same critisism regarding everything. Albanians are fair and honorable to a fault. So much so that many believe kosovo should just behave exactly like serbia does in every possible way.

can you imagine if the positions and leverage were reversed? how low would serbia have gone... to the detriment of all... to extend and twist and squeeze the situation for not only what it was worth, but everything it could get beyond what was fair?

she is right. There is no more opposition to Kosovo independence in the Serbian government anymore. Stamps mean indpendence. end of story. Serbia has recognized Kosovo independence. Fact. They think they won because it doesn't say Republic? That's so stupid I can't even believe it. It's just so dumb. No one in Serbia for Tadic cares about Kosovo anyway. Tadic is president because Serbs no longer care about Kosovo.

Was that the reason her own Albos were throwing things at her upon returning to Pristina following discussions with Serb officials?

why did serbia place the ban in the first place? What changed?

What happened to the idea that the republic of kosovo "Couldnt" place a ban in the first place as that would be the actions of a state?

ah... while armchair serb apologists gather over the word republic...that little bit of discussion has dissipated into thin air now hasnt it? Kosovo COULD ban serbian goods.

We all watched as the republic of kosovo legally and responsibly sent officers to enforce a ban.

We all witnessed plain as day the reality the serbs still live in denial about.. the republic of serbia has NO legal authority of any kind within kosovo.

We all witnessed the embarrassment serbia had, in attempting to call on defunct agreements that did nothing but confirm serbias total lack of authority. We were all reminded, that each and every one of the institutions of the foreign govt. of serbia are all illegal under any agreement wich serbia can insists are still relevant.

We all witnessed the incredible restraint of the evil warmongering kosovo albanians as an officer was murdered by a serb coward while serbia shamefully incited and encouraged violence.

THAT is what serbia recognizes... Serbia has NO authority while the republic of kosovo IS the only legitimate legal authority in kosovo.

NOW the capitulation regarding Kosovo customs was absolutely neccessary.
Serbia is DESPERATE... Utterly and completely DESPERATE for the situation to return to the "stalemate" it was before.

This is all aimed at eulex and kfor mind you... by capitulating...and capitulation is exactly what it is. the hope beyond hope, is that with no ban to enforce, there is no "reason" for the govt. of kosovo to be at their own borders.

And Eulex and kfor can go back to Ignoring their own mandate of bringing the rule of law throughout kosovo because of the promise of violence by a handfull of serb criminals supported by serbia, but of whome serbia will of course disavow itself of any violence they perpetrate. Kosovo serbs as usual are just the fodder.

Serbia had to bail on customs, there is nothing they could have done. This is ALL inevitable mind you, but they didnt see it coming so quickly.

for all the desperate clinging serb apologists will do, Serbia Blinked. It had to for sake of trying to return to the status quo.

Trying yes, but Unfortunately for poor serbia, the bar has moved.

"The word "Republic" being or not being (as it never was) in the stamp is irrelevant. There are many countries in the world which don't have the world "Republic" in their custom stamps and still Serbia recognizes them as a country. "
(icj1, 5 September 2011 20:41)

True, especially the countries which don't call themselves 'republic' don't have the word on their stamp, like the USA :)

In the unlikely event that Belgrade ever accepted any level of statehood for the province of Kosovo, it could and would be easily reversible in the future.

There is not any recognition - just administrative pragmatism.

Serbia is forced to accept stamps to become a EU candidate. Nobody speeks that Kosovo will be a EU candidate and a full UN member.