Tadić: Serbia doesn’t want war, violence

I assure you that the Western world is sick and tired of this rhetoric, truly sick and tired. The time for delaying and destabilizing is over. Accept reality or others will make sure you do.

It's funny how Tadic refuses to be exactly what he is:

no war: a K-Policeman killed
no violence: roads blocked
no ethnic clean territory: say Boris, how many non-Serbs live in northern Kosovo?

It's funny how Tadic refuses to be exactly what he is:

no war: a K-Policeman killed
no violence: roads blocked
no ethnic clean territory: say Boris, how many non-Serbs live in northern Kosovo?
(from Prishtina, 28 August 2011 13:14)

Cripes almighty!

A war = a police officer killed? Then the US is at war every week.

Violence = roadblocks? Are you serious?

No ethnic (sic) clean territory? The few enclaves of Albanians in the north are quite quiet and there are very, very few incidents.

You must do a bit better than this to try and demonize Tadic - who if anything, is rather moderate.

It's ok, Boris, we heard you. Don't repeat it 100 times...

Mr.TADIC let my point out once again, that Serbia doesn't want a war because as in it's past it has never actually won a war on Balkan soil. Do i have to remind you of the wars in the 90's. Serbia has not only a major problem with Pristina but what about Sandzjak..Mr. TADIC if only you had taken a page out of Croatia's book and got rid of unfriendlys when you had the chance your country wouldn't be in the mess it;s in today..Croatia may have right wing tendencies but at least it is moving forward and being accepted by Europe, while Serbia continues to lag behind because no Serbian politician can get it right..

he K.Albanians + Americans + Germany should look to the Australian model on this issue of heritage/cultural identity/acknowledgement of the land and its people.

In this case the Serbians would be the Aboriginal people and the K.Albanians would be the Australians.
trizo
where do i begin with this. Its the other way around serbs arrived in the 6th century found albanian in the balkans our dna ev-13 attest to it, its language is a linear chronology of events that have influanced the conqured people from ancient times ancient greak, latin from the time of caesar, including serbian.
you also have an albanian saint in vojvodina but you dont tell anyone that, and theres probably more but you cant find that if you dont look for similarities rather than differences. But as time moves forward and the serbians and greeks put the albanian history where it belongs and not some sitde note in history books denying the very existance or place that is rightfully theres

Yeah we heard that before Mr Tadić. Just need to look at the last 20 years and we know how much you don't want war and violence. And just admit it Kosovo is gone forever and never was yours anyway.

Cheers

"The K.Albanians + Americans + Germany should look to the Australian model on this issue of heritage/cultural identity/acknowledgement of the land and its people."
(trizo, 28 August 2011 14:26)

You can't be serious about calling Serbs in Kosovo the 'Aboriginees'. I don't believe the silly and unfounded 'Illyrians=Albanians' theory, but without a doubt Serbs migrated to the Balkans some centuries ago. Otherwise I agree: Looting the monasteries or calling them 'Kosovo heritage' is ridiculous as well, renaming towns and cities with new Albanian names (like Obilic turns into Kastriot) is a method of old communist times and are a cheap and obvious try to manipulate history. Seems to be typical for states that don't have an own history.

"Serbia MUST understand that the drawing of borders for Kosovo and Balkans are sealed."

EA

So you take what you want and then decide that the borders are sealed. Well it doesn't work that way like you have seen in north Kosovo. If you want true peace you will have to give up something to gain something. There is no peace without justice. You think you can expell, kill, humiliate and threaten people and expect them to accept you? If you want the north then you will suffer the consequenses.

It is completely fair for Tadic to say what he's saying. Irene what makes you think you can speak on behalf of "The Western World". Do you have any credibility or any real reason to say something like that?

I know a lot of non-Serbian people that agree with Serbia on this matter... I also know that more countries in the UN have not recognised these so called 'new borders' of Kosovo created illegally.

Stop acting like Serbs are all stupid.. if you had ever been there or ever immersed yourself with the Serbian people and got to know more than just 'one' who you label a hooligan then you might actually realise that they are incredibly intelligent people.

China, Russia, India, Brasil, Spain are just a few rather LARGE countries that do not accept Kosovo's claim of independence. So why are the Serbians to not accept it either? Especially considering it has belonged to Serbia for the longest period of time and we (Serbia) have invested the most in Kosovo.

Yes I do acknowledge that Kosovo has a majority population of ethnic Albanians but can you explain intelligently WHY that gives rise to independence and the right to establish NEW law & order over ALL borders?

It just does not make sense for a number of reasons.

Stop going around acting like Serbs are so stupid bla bla because we're not and deep down inside you know we're not, especially when you read how many Serbians on this website articulate their debates who are well versed in many aspects of this issue.

Do you K.Albanians & other anti-Serbians who comment on this site believe that every majority population should become independent and deregulate the government/political and economic structures that have been in place for hundreds of years?

Please feel free to reply if you can address the points I've made without referring to any of the following:

a) America
b) Germany
c) anti Serbian slander
d) Milosevic
e) Croatia/Srebrenica
f) Propaganda
g) A crystal ball

Serbia MUST understand that the drawing of borders for Kosovo and Balkans are sealed. The Serbian politicians are either stupid or behave like stupid. No one will buy Serbian arguments of Pristina's "violance", "ethnic cleansing" of Serbs in northern Kosovo and other nonsense like this. It is part of the Serbia's strategy since the begining of conflict to frustrate the whole process of negotiation with West and with Kosovo authorities. Ultimately Serbia wants the division of Kosovo and will find any excuses to achieve its goal. In the name of "peace" Serbia wants to undo Kosovo independence and hopefully joining the EU.

“Serbia’s policy is peaceful and its goal is to establish permanent peace in the Balkans,” he pointed out. (...) He added that if anyone risked a war in this part of Europe, they would have to bear responsibility for the consequences."

The Serbian version of pax aeterna in the Balkans is world infamous.

Serbia doesn't want war and violence,problem with that is Tadic, when others want to inflict war and violence on you and the Serbs,one either does something about it and fights back or does nothing,so far you have done nothing

anyone else feel tadic is channeling that nice mr milosevic?? or some other infamous man from europe's past.

roberto frisco
(roberto, 28 August 2011 19:05)

Anyone else feels Robert Leonard Rope is channeling that nice Mr. Goebbels?? or some other infamous man from europe's past.

roberto = fiasco

The K.Albanians + Americans + Germany should look to the Australian model on this issue of heritage/cultural identity/acknowledgement of the land and its people.

In this case the Serbians would be the Aboriginal people and the K.Albanians would be the Australians.

The Aboriginal people were inhabitants of the land. They lived there the longest before they were invaded and a new majority population existed.

They were hugely IGNORED and mistreated for a number of years before finally JUSTICE prevailed. Now they get benefits e.g. educational, financial etc...

Australian government has also acknowledged the Aboriginal people & preserved their heritage including the names of many towns & municipalities with the original Aboriginal names (that cannot be changed).. such as: Woolloomooloo, Wollongong, Mudgee, nullica, timbilica etc etc

This is exactly what should happen in Kosovo right now... the international community should stop letting all this injustice happen. The land should remain SERBIAN and the names of all towns/cities etc should have SERBIAN names. Albanians should be respected for living in Kosovo, but they should not change everything created by the Serbs..

A start would be to stop burning down our Monasteries.

It's only a matter of time before more people start to realise what has happened and why should Albanians be allowed to just STEAL the Serbian land??? It just doesn't make sense does it :)

(Bam Bam, 28 August 2011 15:30)

Ha,ha,ha-it took 19 nation force to save you from Serbs-but of course we know how brave you guys are when you have prisoners shackled to extract kidneys,beat up 80 or under 18 years of age..
You all albanians need check on what happened-paying kla from pizza pockets was not smartest-they kept you in dark..

"Do your really think Serbia would be prepared to discuss giving Medvegja, Bujanovc and Preseva and let's not talk about Vojvidina...?"

EA

Again, now you are talking about taking and not giving. Taking Presevo, taking Macedonia, taking Montenegro. What gives you the right to take a territory just because albanians live there? 500.000 Serbs live in Chicago. Should they take that city? Should we take Republika Srpska? Presevo was never albanian, neither was Kosovo. And what the heck does Vojvodinga have to do with it? Are you representing the 75 percent Serbs that live there or the 12 percent hungarians? When did Vojvodina say they want independence? Why didn't you include Norhtern Epirus in south Albania in your calculations? Don't you think the greeks should have that back? Of course you don't. You want to take and not give. You are nothing but a hypocrit. Just because the whole of balkans, acording to albanains, once belonged to the great great illyrian kingdom, that no one ever heard about, doesn't give you the right to that territory. In that case your masters the US of A should be the first ones to leave their homes in north America. Not to long ago they stole north America from the indians and nearly killed all of them. You are nothing but a hypocrit and a criminal, just like all other albanians.

no ethnic clean territory: say Boris, how many non-Serbs live in northern Kosovo?
(from Prishtina, 28 August 2011 13:14)

What an idiotic comment, When have Albanians ever lived in numbers in Northern Kosovo? Thats like claiming Russia ethnically cleansed all its English

or some other infamous man from europe's past.

roberto frisco
(roberto, 28 August 2011 19:05)

Jawohl, Herr SS-Obersturmbannführer - Sieg wird unser sein!

It's ok, Boris, we heard you. Don't repeat it 100 times...
(John, 28 August 2011 12:42)

Peace, peace, peace!!or else... when it comes out of his mouth, ad nauseum, it actually sounds more like a not so vague threat of war. anyone else feel tadic is channeling that nice mr milosevic?? or some other infamous man from europe's past.

roberto frisco

Yeah we heard that before Mr Tadić. Just need to look at the last 20 years and we know how much you don't want war and violence. And just admit it Kosovo is gone forever and never was yours anyway.

Cheers
(Mendo, 28 August 2011 15:05)


I dont have words for this comment.
Seriously have you even looked at the place names!!!
All place names are albanized in Kosovo the same in Albania!!
Mitrovica-Mitrovice, Pec-Peja, Djakovica-Gjakova, Decani-decan, Pristina-Pristine, Gnjilane-Gnjilan,
Skadar-Shkoder, Belgrad-Berat, Kroja-Kruje, Tirana-Tirane, Drac-Durres, Gortisa/Korca-Korce and so on, and there are even still Slavic/Serbian place names and villages in ALBANIA!!!

That Slavic migration is a total MYTH!!
For instance can you explain to me Why did suddenly the Big group Illirians/Macedonians/Thrachians and Dachians disappear, and the small numbered Latin's and Greeks Survived!!!
No my friend, Illrians live to this they on the land of their forefathers(dinaric race).

Here a quote of Herodotus: ".Thracian people is second largest after the Indian. Thracian tribes have a lot of names … and obey the same laws except the Getae,… tribe which lives above the crestones. "

As you can see the biggest after Indians how can they then disappear and some ten thousand Latins and Greeks survive...

Also when the Roman empire attacked Macedonia, do you really think that the people would just obey the new rulers and be slaves to them???
That's why many people fled the Roman empire north, and these people just came back in the 6th C that's my conclusion.

As for Romania there dominated the Vlach/Latin Language over the Slavic one in other parts of the Balkans dominated the Slavic language over the Latin/Vlach one.

But How do the modern day history make Slavs?
This is what they say about Slavs:
They migrated to the Balkans in the 6th/7th C.
They Migrated to Germany in the 6th/7th C.
They migrated to Romania the 6th/7th Century
they migrated to Hungary in the 6th /7rh C.
They migrated to Austria in the 6th/7th C.

DO you really believe that, well I Not!

News flash, We where always there where we are today,
Many slavs are germanized/magyarized/romanized/albanized and so on
For instance the region between Hamburg and Berlin is called Wend-land (Germans call Slavs: Wends)
I hope this is enough because I can explain and go on and on.
Will that even matter?

P.S.
"Kosovo is gone forever and never was yours anyway"
Mendo tell that the Ottomans when they recorded in their 1455 Census a 98% Serb population in Kosovo.
Statistics do not Lie!

"He added that if anyone risked a war in this part of Europe, they would have to bear responsibility for the consequences."

Nice to see his rhetoric is finally changing as he realizes that the EU+Kosovo policy is being rejected. Those words are as calculated as Merkel's statement "multi-culturalism is dead." It is a harbinger of things to come and a change in policy. When Tadic loses the next election, hopefully Vojo or Nikolic will take that rhetoric to the next level, and put some stones behind it. Serbs in Kosovo need to be protected at all costs, and their culture and presence in the province protected. Kosovo is Serbia.

anyone else feel tadic is channeling that nice mr milosevic?? or some other infamous man from europe's past.

roberto frisco
(roberto, 28 August 2011 19:05)

Nope, just you Bobby Frisco. Shocking, I know.

Even the US Government seems to think Tadic is worth working with.

EA,

First have a go at having sealed roads in Kosovo before you make the claim that the borders are 'sealed'

If you don't even have money to seal the roads then it doesn't make much sense that you think all the borders are 'sealed' lol.

MikeC,

In principle you are right when you say

"...will have to give up something to gain something." The problem is where to start giving and where to start gaining...? Do your really think Serbia would be prepared to discuss giving Medvegja, Bujanovc and Preseva and let's not talk about Vojvidina...? I personally doubt. Do you think Macedonia would be prepared to give parts of its territory? And so on and that for the sake of northern Kosovo? Let's not talk about any longer about ethnic cleansing....in the decades. I think it is time to move on. Serbia recognises Kosovo independence and people living in Kosovo including the Serbs will have a peace of mind. REAL MUTUAL agreements can kick in and both Kosovo and Serbia in EU as two sovereign country. That is my opinion anyway.

Serbia, can you handle another war? Don't talk too much about war, mister president, or you will put yourself and your country in very big trouble.. Enjoy what you have today,'cos you could have less tomorrow, mister Tadic. Have you guys considerated just for one moment the fact, that in another war, your country could be obliterated? If not,this is a good moment . Think about it, and then talk about war again.

"Serbia doesn’t want war, violence"

That is of course true for the democratic Serbia under Tadic. It was not true during Milosevic times. A problem of Serbia nowadays is that the nationalist/extremist parties, the Radicals and DSS(partially) with similar ideas and ideology are still strong in Serbia.

@Irene
I assure you we are sick of western false promises. Especially when you ask us to bend over, and spread our cheeks. We've been listening to the same story for more than ten years. People know very well that nothing would change if Serbia enters EU. I was pro-EU until the pogrom of Serbs, and when I found out that you were harvesting organs. Right now I could not care less about what the next demand from EU will be.

Anyone else feels Robert Leonard Rope is channeling that nice Mr. Goebbels?? or some other infamous man from europe's past.

roberto = fiasco
(Ataman, 28 August 2011 22:10)

LOL nice to know this poseur likes to choose when to come here and when to avoid it like when 81 year old Serbs are brutally beaten by his precious Albanians :)

I assure you that the Western world is sick and tired of this rhetoric, truly sick and tired. The time for delaying and destabilizing is over. Accept reality or others will make sure you do.
(Irene, 28 August 2011 12:16)

I assure you the Western world doesn't care and is not paying attention.

I never got the fear of serbs from illyrian theory, illyrian is a term romans used for the tribes which ruled western balkans before the romans invasion, back in that period, slavs in balkans were not even present, there is no proof that all illyrians tribes, actually identified themselves as illyrians, like there is no proof that, in antiquity , that all slavic tribes identified themselves as slavs, so this is a matter of proffesional historians...these are mainly roman terms, anyway, ''ilir'' in albanian language means to be free, and basicly , every one who is not a slave, or not under opression is ''ilir''...maybe you have misunderstood albanian patriotic propaganda, when you hear '' komb i lir, vend i lir'' etc it actually means '' free nation, free country/land '' and not ''illyrian nation '' or ''illyrian country/land''... it is funny to see how serbs claim that illyrian theory is an albanian communist invention, beacuse that would make illyrians the earliest communists in the history, we like it or not, illyrians existed, wether albanians are the descedants of illyrians or not, who cares, illyrians were not such a successful civilisation anyway, they got owned by the romans, it does not matter who was who 2000 years ago. Actually, there is no solid proof that serbs were slavs, there is more proof that serbs are huns or anything, they don't call it the dark ages for nothing. When will you serbs understand that ancient history does not mean much in contemporary conflicts of a 21st century civilisation...wasn't russo three centuries ago that said a man shall have the right to live, be free and have property three centuries ago? What do they teach in serbian schools, that a traitor who sold christian faith for taxes has no right to exist? How does selling religion count for traitory at first place?

It is hard for me to see how the future will not include another war, but I think time has come that my fellow albanians make a hard choice, give up Northern Kosovo, stay out of conflict and build a strong economy and a modern army. Both goals need relative peace and stability. One day Serbia will come again for blood just like they have done so in prior ocassions over and over again, and they shall not be allowed to kill, plunder and expell en masse like before.

Is the Mr. pro-West nice-guy facade starting to crumble?

(Irene, 28 August 2011 12:16)


“ Accept reality or others will make sure you do”


When will they do that? And who are these others? Its 12 years since the so called break away and the west was in a much better position in 1999 than today, but tell me how and when they will do that.

Dream on girl, just dream on.

Why are you taking it the wrong way. The statement is very responsible. I hope to hear this everyday in the Balkans, especially from statemen.

"When have Albanians ever lived in numbers in Northern Kosovo? Thats like claiming Russia ethnically cleansed all its English
(New Zealander, 28 August 2011 21:25) "

The difference between Albanians and Serbs is only small and can easily be overcome under Turkish supervision like in the good old days of the Otoman Empire.

I assure you that the Western world is sick and tired of this rhetoric, truly sick and tired. The time for delaying and destabilizing is over. Accept reality or others will make sure you do.

“Serbia’s policy is peaceful and its goal is to establish permanent peace in the Balkans,” he pointed out. (...) He added that if anyone risked a war in this part of Europe, they would have to bear responsibility for the consequences."

The Serbian version of pax aeterna in the Balkans is world infamous.

Yeah we heard that before Mr Tadić. Just need to look at the last 20 years and we know how much you don't want war and violence. And just admit it Kosovo is gone forever and never was yours anyway.

Cheers

The K.Albanians + Americans + Germany should look to the Australian model on this issue of heritage/cultural identity/acknowledgement of the land and its people.

In this case the Serbians would be the Aboriginal people and the K.Albanians would be the Australians.

The Aboriginal people were inhabitants of the land. They lived there the longest before they were invaded and a new majority population existed.

They were hugely IGNORED and mistreated for a number of years before finally JUSTICE prevailed. Now they get benefits e.g. educational, financial etc...

Australian government has also acknowledged the Aboriginal people & preserved their heritage including the names of many towns & municipalities with the original Aboriginal names (that cannot be changed).. such as: Woolloomooloo, Wollongong, Mudgee, nullica, timbilica etc etc

This is exactly what should happen in Kosovo right now... the international community should stop letting all this injustice happen. The land should remain SERBIAN and the names of all towns/cities etc should have SERBIAN names. Albanians should be respected for living in Kosovo, but they should not change everything created by the Serbs..

A start would be to stop burning down our Monasteries.

It's only a matter of time before more people start to realise what has happened and why should Albanians be allowed to just STEAL the Serbian land??? It just doesn't make sense does it :)

Mr.TADIC let my point out once again, that Serbia doesn't want a war because as in it's past it has never actually won a war on Balkan soil. Do i have to remind you of the wars in the 90's. Serbia has not only a major problem with Pristina but what about Sandzjak..Mr. TADIC if only you had taken a page out of Croatia's book and got rid of unfriendlys when you had the chance your country wouldn't be in the mess it;s in today..Croatia may have right wing tendencies but at least it is moving forward and being accepted by Europe, while Serbia continues to lag behind because no Serbian politician can get it right..

It's ok, Boris, we heard you. Don't repeat it 100 times...
(John, 28 August 2011 12:42)

Peace, peace, peace!!or else... when it comes out of his mouth, ad nauseum, it actually sounds more like a not so vague threat of war. anyone else feel tadic is channeling that nice mr milosevic?? or some other infamous man from europe's past.

roberto frisco

It's funny how Tadic refuses to be exactly what he is:

no war: a K-Policeman killed
no violence: roads blocked
no ethnic clean territory: say Boris, how many non-Serbs live in northern Kosovo?

"The K.Albanians + Americans + Germany should look to the Australian model on this issue of heritage/cultural identity/acknowledgement of the land and its people."
(trizo, 28 August 2011 14:26)

You can't be serious about calling Serbs in Kosovo the 'Aboriginees'. I don't believe the silly and unfounded 'Illyrians=Albanians' theory, but without a doubt Serbs migrated to the Balkans some centuries ago. Otherwise I agree: Looting the monasteries or calling them 'Kosovo heritage' is ridiculous as well, renaming towns and cities with new Albanian names (like Obilic turns into Kastriot) is a method of old communist times and are a cheap and obvious try to manipulate history. Seems to be typical for states that don't have an own history.

Serbia MUST understand that the drawing of borders for Kosovo and Balkans are sealed. The Serbian politicians are either stupid or behave like stupid. No one will buy Serbian arguments of Pristina's "violance", "ethnic cleansing" of Serbs in northern Kosovo and other nonsense like this. It is part of the Serbia's strategy since the begining of conflict to frustrate the whole process of negotiation with West and with Kosovo authorities. Ultimately Serbia wants the division of Kosovo and will find any excuses to achieve its goal. In the name of "peace" Serbia wants to undo Kosovo independence and hopefully joining the EU.

"Serbia MUST understand that the drawing of borders for Kosovo and Balkans are sealed."

EA

So you take what you want and then decide that the borders are sealed. Well it doesn't work that way like you have seen in north Kosovo. If you want true peace you will have to give up something to gain something. There is no peace without justice. You think you can expell, kill, humiliate and threaten people and expect them to accept you? If you want the north then you will suffer the consequenses.

It is completely fair for Tadic to say what he's saying. Irene what makes you think you can speak on behalf of "The Western World". Do you have any credibility or any real reason to say something like that?

I know a lot of non-Serbian people that agree with Serbia on this matter... I also know that more countries in the UN have not recognised these so called 'new borders' of Kosovo created illegally.

Stop acting like Serbs are all stupid.. if you had ever been there or ever immersed yourself with the Serbian people and got to know more than just 'one' who you label a hooligan then you might actually realise that they are incredibly intelligent people.

China, Russia, India, Brasil, Spain are just a few rather LARGE countries that do not accept Kosovo's claim of independence. So why are the Serbians to not accept it either? Especially considering it has belonged to Serbia for the longest period of time and we (Serbia) have invested the most in Kosovo.

Yes I do acknowledge that Kosovo has a majority population of ethnic Albanians but can you explain intelligently WHY that gives rise to independence and the right to establish NEW law & order over ALL borders?

It just does not make sense for a number of reasons.

Stop going around acting like Serbs are so stupid bla bla because we're not and deep down inside you know we're not, especially when you read how many Serbians on this website articulate their debates who are well versed in many aspects of this issue.

Do you K.Albanians & other anti-Serbians who comment on this site believe that every majority population should become independent and deregulate the government/political and economic structures that have been in place for hundreds of years?

Please feel free to reply if you can address the points I've made without referring to any of the following:

a) America
b) Germany
c) anti Serbian slander
d) Milosevic
e) Croatia/Srebrenica
f) Propaganda
g) A crystal ball

It's funny how Tadic refuses to be exactly what he is:

no war: a K-Policeman killed
no violence: roads blocked
no ethnic clean territory: say Boris, how many non-Serbs live in northern Kosovo?
(from Prishtina, 28 August 2011 13:14)

Cripes almighty!

A war = a police officer killed? Then the US is at war every week.

Violence = roadblocks? Are you serious?

No ethnic (sic) clean territory? The few enclaves of Albanians in the north are quite quiet and there are very, very few incidents.

You must do a bit better than this to try and demonize Tadic - who if anything, is rather moderate.

MikeC,

In principle you are right when you say

"...will have to give up something to gain something." The problem is where to start giving and where to start gaining...? Do your really think Serbia would be prepared to discuss giving Medvegja, Bujanovc and Preseva and let's not talk about Vojvidina...? I personally doubt. Do you think Macedonia would be prepared to give parts of its territory? And so on and that for the sake of northern Kosovo? Let's not talk about any longer about ethnic cleansing....in the decades. I think it is time to move on. Serbia recognises Kosovo independence and people living in Kosovo including the Serbs will have a peace of mind. REAL MUTUAL agreements can kick in and both Kosovo and Serbia in EU as two sovereign country. That is my opinion anyway.

(Bam Bam, 28 August 2011 15:30)

Ha,ha,ha-it took 19 nation force to save you from Serbs-but of course we know how brave you guys are when you have prisoners shackled to extract kidneys,beat up 80 or under 18 years of age..
You all albanians need check on what happened-paying kla from pizza pockets was not smartest-they kept you in dark..

Serbia, can you handle another war? Don't talk too much about war, mister president, or you will put yourself and your country in very big trouble.. Enjoy what you have today,'cos you could have less tomorrow, mister Tadic. Have you guys considerated just for one moment the fact, that in another war, your country could be obliterated? If not,this is a good moment . Think about it, and then talk about war again.

EA,

First have a go at having sealed roads in Kosovo before you make the claim that the borders are 'sealed'

If you don't even have money to seal the roads then it doesn't make much sense that you think all the borders are 'sealed' lol.

It's ok, Boris, we heard you. Don't repeat it 100 times...

"When have Albanians ever lived in numbers in Northern Kosovo? Thats like claiming Russia ethnically cleansed all its English
(New Zealander, 28 August 2011 21:25) "

The difference between Albanians and Serbs is only small and can easily be overcome under Turkish supervision like in the good old days of the Otoman Empire.

Yeah we heard that before Mr Tadić. Just need to look at the last 20 years and we know how much you don't want war and violence. And just admit it Kosovo is gone forever and never was yours anyway.

Cheers
(Mendo, 28 August 2011 15:05)


I dont have words for this comment.
Seriously have you even looked at the place names!!!
All place names are albanized in Kosovo the same in Albania!!
Mitrovica-Mitrovice, Pec-Peja, Djakovica-Gjakova, Decani-decan, Pristina-Pristine, Gnjilane-Gnjilan,
Skadar-Shkoder, Belgrad-Berat, Kroja-Kruje, Tirana-Tirane, Drac-Durres, Gortisa/Korca-Korce and so on, and there are even still Slavic/Serbian place names and villages in ALBANIA!!!

That Slavic migration is a total MYTH!!
For instance can you explain to me Why did suddenly the Big group Illirians/Macedonians/Thrachians and Dachians disappear, and the small numbered Latin's and Greeks Survived!!!
No my friend, Illrians live to this they on the land of their forefathers(dinaric race).

Here a quote of Herodotus: ".Thracian people is second largest after the Indian. Thracian tribes have a lot of names … and obey the same laws except the Getae,… tribe which lives above the crestones. "

As you can see the biggest after Indians how can they then disappear and some ten thousand Latins and Greeks survive...

Also when the Roman empire attacked Macedonia, do you really think that the people would just obey the new rulers and be slaves to them???
That's why many people fled the Roman empire north, and these people just came back in the 6th C that's my conclusion.

As for Romania there dominated the Vlach/Latin Language over the Slavic one in other parts of the Balkans dominated the Slavic language over the Latin/Vlach one.

But How do the modern day history make Slavs?
This is what they say about Slavs:
They migrated to the Balkans in the 6th/7th C.
They Migrated to Germany in the 6th/7th C.
They migrated to Romania the 6th/7th Century
they migrated to Hungary in the 6th /7rh C.
They migrated to Austria in the 6th/7th C.

DO you really believe that, well I Not!

News flash, We where always there where we are today,
Many slavs are germanized/magyarized/romanized/albanized and so on
For instance the region between Hamburg and Berlin is called Wend-land (Germans call Slavs: Wends)
I hope this is enough because I can explain and go on and on.
Will that even matter?

P.S.
"Kosovo is gone forever and never was yours anyway"
Mendo tell that the Ottomans when they recorded in their 1455 Census a 98% Serb population in Kosovo.
Statistics do not Lie!

anyone else feel tadic is channeling that nice mr milosevic?? or some other infamous man from europe's past.

roberto frisco
(roberto, 28 August 2011 19:05)

Anyone else feels Robert Leonard Rope is channeling that nice Mr. Goebbels?? or some other infamous man from europe's past.

roberto = fiasco

or some other infamous man from europe's past.

roberto frisco
(roberto, 28 August 2011 19:05)

Jawohl, Herr SS-Obersturmbannführer - Sieg wird unser sein!

Serbia doesn't want war and violence,problem with that is Tadic, when others want to inflict war and violence on you and the Serbs,one either does something about it and fights back or does nothing,so far you have done nothing

anyone else feel tadic is channeling that nice mr milosevic?? or some other infamous man from europe's past.

roberto frisco
(roberto, 28 August 2011 19:05)

Nope, just you Bobby Frisco. Shocking, I know.

Even the US Government seems to think Tadic is worth working with.

he K.Albanians + Americans + Germany should look to the Australian model on this issue of heritage/cultural identity/acknowledgement of the land and its people.

In this case the Serbians would be the Aboriginal people and the K.Albanians would be the Australians.
trizo
where do i begin with this. Its the other way around serbs arrived in the 6th century found albanian in the balkans our dna ev-13 attest to it, its language is a linear chronology of events that have influanced the conqured people from ancient times ancient greak, latin from the time of caesar, including serbian.
you also have an albanian saint in vojvodina but you dont tell anyone that, and theres probably more but you cant find that if you dont look for similarities rather than differences. But as time moves forward and the serbians and greeks put the albanian history where it belongs and not some sitde note in history books denying the very existance or place that is rightfully theres

"Serbia doesn’t want war, violence"

That is of course true for the democratic Serbia under Tadic. It was not true during Milosevic times. A problem of Serbia nowadays is that the nationalist/extremist parties, the Radicals and DSS(partially) with similar ideas and ideology are still strong in Serbia.

no ethnic clean territory: say Boris, how many non-Serbs live in northern Kosovo?
(from Prishtina, 28 August 2011 13:14)

What an idiotic comment, When have Albanians ever lived in numbers in Northern Kosovo? Thats like claiming Russia ethnically cleansed all its English

"Do your really think Serbia would be prepared to discuss giving Medvegja, Bujanovc and Preseva and let's not talk about Vojvidina...?"

EA

Again, now you are talking about taking and not giving. Taking Presevo, taking Macedonia, taking Montenegro. What gives you the right to take a territory just because albanians live there? 500.000 Serbs live in Chicago. Should they take that city? Should we take Republika Srpska? Presevo was never albanian, neither was Kosovo. And what the heck does Vojvodinga have to do with it? Are you representing the 75 percent Serbs that live there or the 12 percent hungarians? When did Vojvodina say they want independence? Why didn't you include Norhtern Epirus in south Albania in your calculations? Don't you think the greeks should have that back? Of course you don't. You want to take and not give. You are nothing but a hypocrit. Just because the whole of balkans, acording to albanains, once belonged to the great great illyrian kingdom, that no one ever heard about, doesn't give you the right to that territory. In that case your masters the US of A should be the first ones to leave their homes in north America. Not to long ago they stole north America from the indians and nearly killed all of them. You are nothing but a hypocrit and a criminal, just like all other albanians.

"He added that if anyone risked a war in this part of Europe, they would have to bear responsibility for the consequences."

Nice to see his rhetoric is finally changing as he realizes that the EU+Kosovo policy is being rejected. Those words are as calculated as Merkel's statement "multi-culturalism is dead." It is a harbinger of things to come and a change in policy. When Tadic loses the next election, hopefully Vojo or Nikolic will take that rhetoric to the next level, and put some stones behind it. Serbs in Kosovo need to be protected at all costs, and their culture and presence in the province protected. Kosovo is Serbia.

I never got the fear of serbs from illyrian theory, illyrian is a term romans used for the tribes which ruled western balkans before the romans invasion, back in that period, slavs in balkans were not even present, there is no proof that all illyrians tribes, actually identified themselves as illyrians, like there is no proof that, in antiquity , that all slavic tribes identified themselves as slavs, so this is a matter of proffesional historians...these are mainly roman terms, anyway, ''ilir'' in albanian language means to be free, and basicly , every one who is not a slave, or not under opression is ''ilir''...maybe you have misunderstood albanian patriotic propaganda, when you hear '' komb i lir, vend i lir'' etc it actually means '' free nation, free country/land '' and not ''illyrian nation '' or ''illyrian country/land''... it is funny to see how serbs claim that illyrian theory is an albanian communist invention, beacuse that would make illyrians the earliest communists in the history, we like it or not, illyrians existed, wether albanians are the descedants of illyrians or not, who cares, illyrians were not such a successful civilisation anyway, they got owned by the romans, it does not matter who was who 2000 years ago. Actually, there is no solid proof that serbs were slavs, there is more proof that serbs are huns or anything, they don't call it the dark ages for nothing. When will you serbs understand that ancient history does not mean much in contemporary conflicts of a 21st century civilisation...wasn't russo three centuries ago that said a man shall have the right to live, be free and have property three centuries ago? What do they teach in serbian schools, that a traitor who sold christian faith for taxes has no right to exist? How does selling religion count for traitory at first place?

It is hard for me to see how the future will not include another war, but I think time has come that my fellow albanians make a hard choice, give up Northern Kosovo, stay out of conflict and build a strong economy and a modern army. Both goals need relative peace and stability. One day Serbia will come again for blood just like they have done so in prior ocassions over and over again, and they shall not be allowed to kill, plunder and expell en masse like before.

@Irene
I assure you we are sick of western false promises. Especially when you ask us to bend over, and spread our cheeks. We've been listening to the same story for more than ten years. People know very well that nothing would change if Serbia enters EU. I was pro-EU until the pogrom of Serbs, and when I found out that you were harvesting organs. Right now I could not care less about what the next demand from EU will be.

Anyone else feels Robert Leonard Rope is channeling that nice Mr. Goebbels?? or some other infamous man from europe's past.

roberto = fiasco
(Ataman, 28 August 2011 22:10)

LOL nice to know this poseur likes to choose when to come here and when to avoid it like when 81 year old Serbs are brutally beaten by his precious Albanians :)

I assure you that the Western world is sick and tired of this rhetoric, truly sick and tired. The time for delaying and destabilizing is over. Accept reality or others will make sure you do.
(Irene, 28 August 2011 12:16)

I assure you the Western world doesn't care and is not paying attention.

Is the Mr. pro-West nice-guy facade starting to crumble?

Why are you taking it the wrong way. The statement is very responsible. I hope to hear this everyday in the Balkans, especially from statemen.

(Irene, 28 August 2011 12:16)


“ Accept reality or others will make sure you do”


When will they do that? And who are these others? Its 12 years since the so called break away and the west was in a much better position in 1999 than today, but tell me how and when they will do that.

Dream on girl, just dream on.