Mirel from Albania,
your people refuse to negotiate. Serbs did sit at the table to negotiated and your representatives just sat there and did what your powerful supporters told you to do.
(Daniel, 18 August 2011 22:07)
sigh... your self delusion is astounding.
serbs negotiated nothing. EVERYTHING milosovic did to kosovo was illegal.. he did through force and violence.
and serbs LIKED IT, when they opportunity to change...they chose not to undo one iota of what milosovic wrought... they took it even further. Every bit of the imagined authority serbia thinks it had then to know... has its basis in "because slobo said so"
Serbs themselves garanteed kosovo's independence.
It is utterly bizzare how serb apologists think you can "offer" to give people less than what they already had as a negotiation.
It took violence, terror and murder for serbs in what was yugoslavia to attempt to steal what kosovo had. It failed. how far gone is your mind to think that "offering" to steal something over a negotiating table... wich is precisely what serbia did to the amazement of all involved... is anything but laughable?
And You want to blame albanians?
Daniel... it doesnt work. The propaganda you believe in doesnt help. it has done nothing but hurt serbs. Why do you cling to it?
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We can see much of the same happening yet again with these current direct talks. Serbia has agreed (like it or not) to have direct talks with kosovo.
Really daniel... how do you really think any of these talks will end?
then as now, Serbia will shoot itself in the foot.
Most people agree Daniel. Ask an Albanian from Albania for example what he/she thinks of the K Albanians. :-)
Ask Swiss, German, Norwegian, Danish or Swedish people what they think. :-)
Ask also Macedonian, Croatian or Slovenian people. :-)
(Staff, 18 August 2011 20:00)
# Comment link
who u talking about albanians!!!??? u forgeting in the 1990 there was a shame for serbians call them self im a serbian when someone ask you a specially here in north america and not mention EU ...so please dont talk about someone when world knows who really is SERBIA... seems all the serbs are forgeting what happen yesterday!!!
"Most people agree Daniel. Ask an Albanian from Albania for example what he/she thinks of the K Albanians. :-)
Ask Swiss, German, Norwegian, Danish or Swedish people what they think. :-)
Ask also Macedonian, Croatian or Slovenian people. :-)
(Staff"
You stink of desperation and are trying too hard.
Now, if you ask those said peoples what they think of Serbs what would you think their answer might sound like?
This is not right. From what I understand the Sudanese government (now northern Sudan) was firmly opposed to the recognition of Kosovo and that, like Kosovo, it was meddling western powers who helped break away the southern part.
Of course the current Serbian government are some blend of traitors and fools. Serbs need to vote them out!
Mirel from Albania,
your people refuse to negotiate. Serbs did sit at the table to negotiated and your representatives just sat there and did what your powerful supporters told you to do. Do you think if the US and other powerful countries weren't involved that you would have eschewed negotiations? I think not. Nevertheless, a negotiated solution is inevitable as you cannot have the north. Frankly, I don't understand why your people are fighting to usurp a people whom desire to have nothing to do with you. I agree that Serbia too must let go of parts of Kosovo since the Albanian people in those areas want nothing to do with Serbia. However, as the expression goes, it takes two to tango, not one or two plus a bunch of supporters. I'm afraid for everyone that Kosovo as it's constituted today will not last. For the Albanians, you will have to accept a smaller area, although still large. For the Serbs, you will have to let go of those Albanian areas. In the end, as I've written about 100 times by now, nobody will be completely happy or completely sad:-)
If I was you I'd be worried about Southern Epirus in south Albania. I heard Greece want that territory back. By the way what is wrong with you albanians? When has Vojvodina or Sandzak ever said they want independence? Vojvodina with a 75 percent Serbian population sure won't go anywhere. All they want is economic autonomy so their taxmoney don't have to go to albanians in Presevo. And Sandzak has a mixed population. If muslims want to live in a muslim state they can go to Turkey or to you.
Most people agree Daniel. Ask an Albanian from Albania for example what he/she thinks of the K Albanians. :-)
Ask Swiss, German, Norwegian, Danish or Swedish people what they think. :-)
Ask also Macedonian, Croatian or Slovenian people. :-)
Mr. Tadic,
It's more important to recognize your neighbour in the south than recognize south Sudan. So while you had the book open, you should of add one more line saying: "The republic of Serbia recognizes Kosovo as an independent and Sovran Country. We intend to fully establish diplomatic, economic and cultural relations as it is in the best interest of Serbs who live there, for the sake of good neighbours, peace, stability first between our 2 countries and for the sake of the region and Europe as a whole".
This would have been the most important decision that he made so far and he will ever make...
Cheers to reading something of this nature sooner than later!
"So Albanians are using the other way by lobbing and getting 100 recognision.Once we get 100 how can Slowakia, for example, not recognise Kosova?Till now they are saying that they are in majority side that's why they don't recognise Kosova.
(Mirel from Albania, 18 August 2011 20:03)
Not really, Slovakia said that they don't recognize a 'state' formed by an ethnic minority that unilaterally declared independence from the 'mother state', violating all international conventions on territorial integrity of UN member states. The same goes for Spain, Greece, China, Russia... It's a general stand, not specific to Kosovo, and it's a fair argument mostly used by states that themselves have an ethnic minority. And that's why no serious country including Serbia has a problem with recognizing South Sudan, which was formed after a split both sides agreed upon. South Sudan became a UN member immediately. Just to remember: Slovakia is a country created by a peaceful, bilateral split of former Czechoslovakia.
If only Kosovo's Albanians would do things the right way, through negotiations, perhaps one day they too could be recognized by Serbia and join the UN. I guess they are not as rational as the southern Sudanese.
(Daniel, 18 August 2011 18:33)
.....
Hmmm,negotiations and rationality in Sudan???
Let's see 50 years war,2 millions dead.
South sudanese are very rational and everything was done by negotiations....Even Germany and Japan capitulated by negotiations in the end and something was signed.
These doesen't mean that there was no WWII,or there was no war in Sudan.
In order to get negotiations you have two sides.
But how can be negotiations when Serbia put Kosova in its constitution or when Serbia says WE NEVER WILL RECOGNISE KOSOVO?
So Albanians are using the other way by lobbing and getting 100 recognision.Once we get 100 how can Slowakia, for example, not recognise Kosova?Till now they are saying that they are in majority side that's why they don't recognise Kosova.
Kosova will be member of UN very soon.
If I was serbian politician I would have cut Kosova as soon as possilbe and focus on Vojvodina and Sandjak.
Mr. Tadic,
It's more important to recognize your neighbour in the south than recognize south Sudan. So while you had the book open, you should of add one more line saying: "The republic of Serbia recognizes Kosovo as an independent and Sovran Country. We intend to fully establish diplomatic, economic and cultural relations as it is in the best interest of Serbs who live there, for the sake of good neighbours, peace, stability first between our 2 countries and for the sake of the region and Europe as a whole".
This would have been the most important decision that he made so far and he will ever make...
Cheers to reading something of this nature sooner than later!
If only Kosovo's Albanians would do things the right way, through negotiations, perhaps one day they too could be recognized by Serbia and join the UN. I guess they are not as rational as the southern Sudanese.
(Daniel, 18 August 2011, 18:33)
I wish serbia had the same guts as Khartum goverment,which allowed south sudaniese to vote on referendum and they did. The will of the people was recognized. Just to make it clear for those that don't know, the people that voted in the said referendum were only south sudan and not entire Sudan.
Anyway , now is to late and no one cares what Belgrade thinks.
If only Kosovo's Albanians would do things the right way, through negotiations, perhaps one day they too could be recognized by Serbia and join the UN. I guess they are not as rational as the southern Sudanese.
Most people agree Daniel. Ask an Albanian from Albania for example what he/she thinks of the K Albanians. :-)
Ask Swiss, German, Norwegian, Danish or Swedish people what they think. :-)
Ask also Macedonian, Croatian or Slovenian people. :-)
If only Kosovo's Albanians would do things the right way, through negotiations, perhaps one day they too could be recognized by Serbia and join the UN. I guess they are not as rational as the southern Sudanese.
If only Kosovo's Albanians would do things the right way, through negotiations, perhaps one day they too could be recognized by Serbia and join the UN. I guess they are not as rational as the southern Sudanese.
(Daniel, 18 August 2011, 18:33)
I wish serbia had the same guts as Khartum goverment,which allowed south sudaniese to vote on referendum and they did. The will of the people was recognized. Just to make it clear for those that don't know, the people that voted in the said referendum were only south sudan and not entire Sudan.
Anyway , now is to late and no one cares what Belgrade thinks.
If only Kosovo's Albanians would do things the right way, through negotiations, perhaps one day they too could be recognized by Serbia and join the UN. I guess they are not as rational as the southern Sudanese.
(Daniel, 18 August 2011 18:33)
.....
Hmmm,negotiations and rationality in Sudan???
Let's see 50 years war,2 millions dead.
South sudanese are very rational and everything was done by negotiations....Even Germany and Japan capitulated by negotiations in the end and something was signed.
These doesen't mean that there was no WWII,or there was no war in Sudan.
In order to get negotiations you have two sides.
But how can be negotiations when Serbia put Kosova in its constitution or when Serbia says WE NEVER WILL RECOGNISE KOSOVO?
So Albanians are using the other way by lobbing and getting 100 recognision.Once we get 100 how can Slowakia, for example, not recognise Kosova?Till now they are saying that they are in majority side that's why they don't recognise Kosova.
Kosova will be member of UN very soon.
If I was serbian politician I would have cut Kosova as soon as possilbe and focus on Vojvodina and Sandjak.
Mr. Tadic,
It's more important to recognize your neighbour in the south than recognize south Sudan. So while you had the book open, you should of add one more line saying: "The republic of Serbia recognizes Kosovo as an independent and Sovran Country. We intend to fully establish diplomatic, economic and cultural relations as it is in the best interest of Serbs who live there, for the sake of good neighbours, peace, stability first between our 2 countries and for the sake of the region and Europe as a whole".
This would have been the most important decision that he made so far and he will ever make...
Cheers to reading something of this nature sooner than later!
"So Albanians are using the other way by lobbing and getting 100 recognision.Once we get 100 how can Slowakia, for example, not recognise Kosova?Till now they are saying that they are in majority side that's why they don't recognise Kosova.
(Mirel from Albania, 18 August 2011 20:03)
Not really, Slovakia said that they don't recognize a 'state' formed by an ethnic minority that unilaterally declared independence from the 'mother state', violating all international conventions on territorial integrity of UN member states. The same goes for Spain, Greece, China, Russia... It's a general stand, not specific to Kosovo, and it's a fair argument mostly used by states that themselves have an ethnic minority. And that's why no serious country including Serbia has a problem with recognizing South Sudan, which was formed after a split both sides agreed upon. South Sudan became a UN member immediately. Just to remember: Slovakia is a country created by a peaceful, bilateral split of former Czechoslovakia.
If I was you I'd be worried about Southern Epirus in south Albania. I heard Greece want that territory back. By the way what is wrong with you albanians? When has Vojvodina or Sandzak ever said they want independence? Vojvodina with a 75 percent Serbian population sure won't go anywhere. All they want is economic autonomy so their taxmoney don't have to go to albanians in Presevo. And Sandzak has a mixed population. If muslims want to live in a muslim state they can go to Turkey or to you.
Mirel from Albania,
your people refuse to negotiate. Serbs did sit at the table to negotiated and your representatives just sat there and did what your powerful supporters told you to do. Do you think if the US and other powerful countries weren't involved that you would have eschewed negotiations? I think not. Nevertheless, a negotiated solution is inevitable as you cannot have the north. Frankly, I don't understand why your people are fighting to usurp a people whom desire to have nothing to do with you. I agree that Serbia too must let go of parts of Kosovo since the Albanian people in those areas want nothing to do with Serbia. However, as the expression goes, it takes two to tango, not one or two plus a bunch of supporters. I'm afraid for everyone that Kosovo as it's constituted today will not last. For the Albanians, you will have to accept a smaller area, although still large. For the Serbs, you will have to let go of those Albanian areas. In the end, as I've written about 100 times by now, nobody will be completely happy or completely sad:-)
Most people agree Daniel. Ask an Albanian from Albania for example what he/she thinks of the K Albanians. :-)
Ask Swiss, German, Norwegian, Danish or Swedish people what they think. :-)
Ask also Macedonian, Croatian or Slovenian people. :-)
(Staff, 18 August 2011 20:00)
# Comment link
who u talking about albanians!!!??? u forgeting in the 1990 there was a shame for serbians call them self im a serbian when someone ask you a specially here in north america and not mention EU ...so please dont talk about someone when world knows who really is SERBIA... seems all the serbs are forgeting what happen yesterday!!!
"Most people agree Daniel. Ask an Albanian from Albania for example what he/she thinks of the K Albanians. :-)
Ask Swiss, German, Norwegian, Danish or Swedish people what they think. :-)
Ask also Macedonian, Croatian or Slovenian people. :-)
(Staff"
You stink of desperation and are trying too hard.
Now, if you ask those said peoples what they think of Serbs what would you think their answer might sound like?
Mr. Tadic,
It's more important to recognize your neighbour in the south than recognize south Sudan. So while you had the book open, you should of add one more line saying: "The republic of Serbia recognizes Kosovo as an independent and Sovran Country. We intend to fully establish diplomatic, economic and cultural relations as it is in the best interest of Serbs who live there, for the sake of good neighbours, peace, stability first between our 2 countries and for the sake of the region and Europe as a whole".
This would have been the most important decision that he made so far and he will ever make...
Cheers to reading something of this nature sooner than later!
This is not right. From what I understand the Sudanese government (now northern Sudan) was firmly opposed to the recognition of Kosovo and that, like Kosovo, it was meddling western powers who helped break away the southern part.
Of course the current Serbian government are some blend of traitors and fools. Serbs need to vote them out!
Mirel from Albania,
your people refuse to negotiate. Serbs did sit at the table to negotiated and your representatives just sat there and did what your powerful supporters told you to do.
(Daniel, 18 August 2011 22:07)
sigh... your self delusion is astounding.
serbs negotiated nothing. EVERYTHING milosovic did to kosovo was illegal.. he did through force and violence.
and serbs LIKED IT, when they opportunity to change...they chose not to undo one iota of what milosovic wrought... they took it even further. Every bit of the imagined authority serbia thinks it had then to know... has its basis in "because slobo said so"
Serbs themselves garanteed kosovo's independence.
It is utterly bizzare how serb apologists think you can "offer" to give people less than what they already had as a negotiation.
It took violence, terror and murder for serbs in what was yugoslavia to attempt to steal what kosovo had. It failed. how far gone is your mind to think that "offering" to steal something over a negotiating table... wich is precisely what serbia did to the amazement of all involved... is anything but laughable?
And You want to blame albanians?
Daniel... it doesnt work. The propaganda you believe in doesnt help. it has done nothing but hurt serbs. Why do you cling to it?
------------------------
We can see much of the same happening yet again with these current direct talks. Serbia has agreed (like it or not) to have direct talks with kosovo.
Really daniel... how do you really think any of these talks will end?
then as now, Serbia will shoot itself in the foot.
If only Kosovo's Albanians would do things the right way, through negotiations, perhaps one day they too could be recognized by Serbia and join the UN. I guess they are not as rational as the southern Sudanese.
If only Kosovo's Albanians would do things the right way, through negotiations, perhaps one day they too could be recognized by Serbia and join the UN. I guess they are not as rational as the southern Sudanese.
(Daniel, 18 August 2011, 18:33)
I wish serbia had the same guts as Khartum goverment,which allowed south sudaniese to vote on referendum and they did. The will of the people was recognized. Just to make it clear for those that don't know, the people that voted in the said referendum were only south sudan and not entire Sudan.
Anyway , now is to late and no one cares what Belgrade thinks.
If only Kosovo's Albanians would do things the right way, through negotiations, perhaps one day they too could be recognized by Serbia and join the UN. I guess they are not as rational as the southern Sudanese.
(Daniel, 18 August 2011 18:33)
.....
Hmmm,negotiations and rationality in Sudan???
Let's see 50 years war,2 millions dead.
South sudanese are very rational and everything was done by negotiations....Even Germany and Japan capitulated by negotiations in the end and something was signed.
These doesen't mean that there was no WWII,or there was no war in Sudan.
In order to get negotiations you have two sides.
But how can be negotiations when Serbia put Kosova in its constitution or when Serbia says WE NEVER WILL RECOGNISE KOSOVO?
So Albanians are using the other way by lobbing and getting 100 recognision.Once we get 100 how can Slowakia, for example, not recognise Kosova?Till now they are saying that they are in majority side that's why they don't recognise Kosova.
Kosova will be member of UN very soon.
If I was serbian politician I would have cut Kosova as soon as possilbe and focus on Vojvodina and Sandjak.
Mr. Tadic,
It's more important to recognize your neighbour in the south than recognize south Sudan. So while you had the book open, you should of add one more line saying: "The republic of Serbia recognizes Kosovo as an independent and Sovran Country. We intend to fully establish diplomatic, economic and cultural relations as it is in the best interest of Serbs who live there, for the sake of good neighbours, peace, stability first between our 2 countries and for the sake of the region and Europe as a whole".
This would have been the most important decision that he made so far and he will ever make...
Cheers to reading something of this nature sooner than later!
Most people agree Daniel. Ask an Albanian from Albania for example what he/she thinks of the K Albanians. :-)
Ask Swiss, German, Norwegian, Danish or Swedish people what they think. :-)
Ask also Macedonian, Croatian or Slovenian people. :-)
If I was you I'd be worried about Southern Epirus in south Albania. I heard Greece want that territory back. By the way what is wrong with you albanians? When has Vojvodina or Sandzak ever said they want independence? Vojvodina with a 75 percent Serbian population sure won't go anywhere. All they want is economic autonomy so their taxmoney don't have to go to albanians in Presevo. And Sandzak has a mixed population. If muslims want to live in a muslim state they can go to Turkey or to you.
Mr. Tadic,
It's more important to recognize your neighbour in the south than recognize south Sudan. So while you had the book open, you should of add one more line saying: "The republic of Serbia recognizes Kosovo as an independent and Sovran Country. We intend to fully establish diplomatic, economic and cultural relations as it is in the best interest of Serbs who live there, for the sake of good neighbours, peace, stability first between our 2 countries and for the sake of the region and Europe as a whole".
This would have been the most important decision that he made so far and he will ever make...
Cheers to reading something of this nature sooner than later!
Most people agree Daniel. Ask an Albanian from Albania for example what he/she thinks of the K Albanians. :-)
Ask Swiss, German, Norwegian, Danish or Swedish people what they think. :-)
Ask also Macedonian, Croatian or Slovenian people. :-)
(Staff, 18 August 2011 20:00)
# Comment link
who u talking about albanians!!!??? u forgeting in the 1990 there was a shame for serbians call them self im a serbian when someone ask you a specially here in north america and not mention EU ...so please dont talk about someone when world knows who really is SERBIA... seems all the serbs are forgeting what happen yesterday!!!
"Most people agree Daniel. Ask an Albanian from Albania for example what he/she thinks of the K Albanians. :-)
Ask Swiss, German, Norwegian, Danish or Swedish people what they think. :-)
Ask also Macedonian, Croatian or Slovenian people. :-)
(Staff"
You stink of desperation and are trying too hard.
Now, if you ask those said peoples what they think of Serbs what would you think their answer might sound like?
"So Albanians are using the other way by lobbing and getting 100 recognision.Once we get 100 how can Slowakia, for example, not recognise Kosova?Till now they are saying that they are in majority side that's why they don't recognise Kosova.
(Mirel from Albania, 18 August 2011 20:03)
Not really, Slovakia said that they don't recognize a 'state' formed by an ethnic minority that unilaterally declared independence from the 'mother state', violating all international conventions on territorial integrity of UN member states. The same goes for Spain, Greece, China, Russia... It's a general stand, not specific to Kosovo, and it's a fair argument mostly used by states that themselves have an ethnic minority. And that's why no serious country including Serbia has a problem with recognizing South Sudan, which was formed after a split both sides agreed upon. South Sudan became a UN member immediately. Just to remember: Slovakia is a country created by a peaceful, bilateral split of former Czechoslovakia.
This is not right. From what I understand the Sudanese government (now northern Sudan) was firmly opposed to the recognition of Kosovo and that, like Kosovo, it was meddling western powers who helped break away the southern part.
Of course the current Serbian government are some blend of traitors and fools. Serbs need to vote them out!
Mirel from Albania,
your people refuse to negotiate. Serbs did sit at the table to negotiated and your representatives just sat there and did what your powerful supporters told you to do. Do you think if the US and other powerful countries weren't involved that you would have eschewed negotiations? I think not. Nevertheless, a negotiated solution is inevitable as you cannot have the north. Frankly, I don't understand why your people are fighting to usurp a people whom desire to have nothing to do with you. I agree that Serbia too must let go of parts of Kosovo since the Albanian people in those areas want nothing to do with Serbia. However, as the expression goes, it takes two to tango, not one or two plus a bunch of supporters. I'm afraid for everyone that Kosovo as it's constituted today will not last. For the Albanians, you will have to accept a smaller area, although still large. For the Serbs, you will have to let go of those Albanian areas. In the end, as I've written about 100 times by now, nobody will be completely happy or completely sad:-)
Mirel from Albania,
your people refuse to negotiate. Serbs did sit at the table to negotiated and your representatives just sat there and did what your powerful supporters told you to do.
(Daniel, 18 August 2011 22:07)
sigh... your self delusion is astounding.
serbs negotiated nothing. EVERYTHING milosovic did to kosovo was illegal.. he did through force and violence.
and serbs LIKED IT, when they opportunity to change...they chose not to undo one iota of what milosovic wrought... they took it even further. Every bit of the imagined authority serbia thinks it had then to know... has its basis in "because slobo said so"
Serbs themselves garanteed kosovo's independence.
It is utterly bizzare how serb apologists think you can "offer" to give people less than what they already had as a negotiation.
It took violence, terror and murder for serbs in what was yugoslavia to attempt to steal what kosovo had. It failed. how far gone is your mind to think that "offering" to steal something over a negotiating table... wich is precisely what serbia did to the amazement of all involved... is anything but laughable?
And You want to blame albanians?
Daniel... it doesnt work. The propaganda you believe in doesnt help. it has done nothing but hurt serbs. Why do you cling to it?
------------------------
We can see much of the same happening yet again with these current direct talks. Serbia has agreed (like it or not) to have direct talks with kosovo.
Really daniel... how do you really think any of these talks will end?
then as now, Serbia will shoot itself in the foot.
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