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Tuesday, 16.08.2011.

17:08

K. Albanians announce African recognitions

African countries Guinea-Conakry and Niger have recognized Kosovo, says Deputy Kosovo Albanian PM Behgjet Pacolli.

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Tomislav USA

pre 12 godina

lol stop crying. when b92 stops PROMOTING itself on international news feeds...stops translating serbian news for FOREIGN consumption...wich it can easily do. THEN you can cry about this being a "serbian" website.

(adamnyc, 18 August 2011 00:14)


Hey Adam, thanks for proving my point. No one is crying, I'm just laughing at you. I know it stung so that's why you and your little trolls are living on websites all day long trying to counter anything "Kosova" related. B92 has been around a while and was shut down during Milosevic's tenure. You Albanians are barking up the wrong tree and flood the forum with snotty childish remarks thinking that somehow you got one over us. Now that's truly comical... Let me say I don't care how many countries recognize your little colony. I just think it's hilarious you guys want to celebrate each one while your little colony has no future what so ever.

icj1

pre 12 godina

Face it, you need Belgrade's nod no other way about it.
(Janez-Beograd, 18 August 2011 15:38)

Of course Belgrade's nod is needed for Serbia's recognition. The same way the Benin's nod is needed for Benin's recognition, and so on.

Janez-Beograd

pre 12 godina

Pacolli has just stated that the African Republic of Benin has recognized Kosovo. That makes 80 recognitions by now. Pacolli also said that more recognitions will follow the next days.
(Poster, 18 August 2011 10:57)

I remember reading an article in one of the UK papers about corruption in countries like Ireland and Greece where the common form of bribe was a brown enveleope stuffed with cash. Here its usually a suitcase or two stuffed with dollars/euros.

Either way, it still wont change the situation on the ground with 60% unemployment and a non existant economy. My Albanian neighbour always needs to send money via WU from his monthly paycheck to help his extended family in Prizren get by. What he tells me is sad, young people desperate to leave. Maybe Mr Pacolli would be better spending the money on improving the lives of ordinary people rather than throw it at African kleptocrats.

Anyway he just left me with a fine bottle of red from Rahovec. God Bless him :)

Janez-Beograd

pre 12 godina

And just 3days ago when Serbia was claiming they were supporters of Serbia because they had not recognized Kosovo they were defenders of international law. Now they are corrupt juntas. Is this a judgment on the morals of these 2 countries or on Serbia.
(think again, 17 August 2011 16:36)

No Serbia did not say that there were its supporters or that they were defenders of international law. Serbia has its trustworthy allies to fight the battles she needs. Serbia has Russia, China, India, South Africa, Brazil, Argentina, Spain, Mexico, Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua, Nigeria, Algeria, Egypt, Iran etc who will block the Pristina freakshow.

Face it, you need Belgrade's nod no other way about it. Why is there so much pressure being exerted on Serbia right now with regard to EU accession talks?

Poster

pre 12 godina

Pacolli has just stated that the African Republic of Benin has recognized Kosovo. That makes 80 recognitions by now. Pacolli also said that more recognitions will follow the next days.

adamnyc

pre 12 godina

Are you for real? I mean seriously? Albanians flooding a SERBIAN website to gloat about 2 countries they bought off and you're wondering why are Serbs negative, or better yet, why are we mocking you Albanians? Other than it's been easy to do, you trolls haven't figured out that maybe this issue has consumed you. People like myself are living life large and you guys are obsessed with recognitions because that will somehow make us like you? Or you want our approval? Or maybe get things done for the relatives back home? Or do you think chest-thumping is somehow going to make the Serbs bow down to the mighty Albanians? You folks are absolutely comical, no two ways about it.
(Tomislav USA, 17 August 2011 18:39)

lol stop crying. when b92 stops PROMOTING itself on international news feeds...stops translating serbian news for FOREIGN consumption...wich it can easily do. THEN you can cry about this being a "serbian" website.

As long as it is a News site ANYTHING you say on the matter just shows you dont like serb apologists propaganda exposed and belitttled in real time.

Analyst

pre 12 godina

"Except Spain that is your loyal ally,all the countries that support Serbia such as Iran,Venezuela,Cuba,Russia,Burma,Vietnam,North Korea are either dictatorial countries or semi dictatures. "
(Mirel from Albania, 16 August 2011 19:33)

Sure, and the countries recently 'recognized' Kosovo are democracies, or what? In fact, they are either african (islamist) countries with an extremly low ranking on HDI, poor and corrupt and/or small tropical islands with less inhabitans than a city in a normal country. It must have been easy for Pacolli to 'lobby' these recognitions with some $10,000s for the pockets of a responsible minister.

You think countries like Greece and Slovakia, Israel are semi dictature? Interesting opinion.

Tomislav USA

pre 12 godina

Why all these negativity toward albanians?
(Mirel from Albania, 17 August 2011 15:53)

Are you for real? I mean seriously? Albanians flooding a SERBIAN website to gloat about 2 countries they bought off and you're wondering why are Serbs negative, or better yet, why are we mocking you Albanians? Other than it's been easy to do, you trolls haven't figured out that maybe this issue has consumed you. People like myself are living life large and you guys are obsessed with recognitions because that will somehow make us like you? Or you want our approval? Or maybe get things done for the relatives back home? Or do you think chest-thumping is somehow going to make the Serbs bow down to the mighty Albanians? You folks are absolutely comical, no two ways about it.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

Isn't it ironic?
(miri, 17 August 2011 16:29)

The biggest consumer is USA - but let's bookmark this discussion and let's see at one point later what will happen. We may recycle this conversation. I am even more confident regarding my opinion about all the recognitions - but sorry I won't say more this time, I said more than enough, I am not drunk now and I am not with Amer 1:1. So I finish that for now. See the results at one point later.

think again

pre 12 godina

Yes, thank you to the Military Junta in Niger which has one of the lowest standards of living in the world and where 8% (nearly 900,000) of the country's 15.3 million population are enslaved.
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and a big thank you to Guinea, a country where the army frequently interfers with the election process, murders dozens of unarmed protestors in the streets of Conakry, the two heads of the Electoral Commission were jailed for fraud amidst a disputed recent presidential election. Recently a US diplomat recently warned of a Rwandan like situation developing with the country splitting along ethnic lines.

Human rights and democracy...how are ya
(Niall O'Doherty, 17 August 2011 12:58)
And just 3days ago when Serbia was claiming they were supporters of Serbia because they had not recognized Kosovo they were defenders of international law. Now they are corrupt juntas. Is this a judgment on the morals of these 2 countries or on Serbia.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

So go back and eat your previous comments and of your fellas about Pacolli's money buying recognition - since we all know that Gazprom and Serbia have waaaaaaay bigger financial capacities than Pacolli. It is utterly ridiculous.
(ben, 17 August 2011 13:08)

It was Pacolli himself who said, he did buy recognitions. Like it this case, too. Please read the whole article. I am not sure about Serbian budget - but as for Gazprom budget: there is no comparison with any private person in the area, Pacolli included. And since it looks like nothing happened on their side we can have two picks:


a) IT MERELY LOOKS like nothing happened
b) they are not interested

The b) is out of question. Not much remains - now our guess could be what is behind the scene. If you know the history and the mentality of Gazprom bosses, you can have pretty interesting guesses.

miri

pre 12 godina

I wonder how much ablo drug money it took to get these nations to recognize?
(michael, 16 August 2011 21:44)

Incidentally, Russia is the biggest consumer of drugs in the world, so looks like this is Russian money after all.

Isn't it ironic?

Mirel from Albania

pre 12 godina

Is very simple my serbian fellows.
Till yetserday Kosova was formally recognised by 77 countries and today by 79.
Why all these negativity toward albanians?
They did their job in the end.It was your duty to keep these countries in your side,but they sliped to albanian side.
Yesterday albanians had to worry about 116 countries and today about 114.

Why do you think they have lost?

You guys(serbians) used to contol all YU 255 thousand sq km and 24 million people till 1990,now you are controlling some 60 thousand sq km and are 7.3 million people and you are still calling this as a victory???

pss

pre 12 godina

I am not sure which government you talking about, but if its Serbia you have it wrong as I don’t live there. Have you ever been to either of these two countries? I have to Niger and I can tell you that its an all mighty hole of misery.
Working for a financial organization that deals with these states I can tell you that they can be purchased for a cheap drink and what is the point getting recognition from these places when they are meaningless.
I know what is happening in 2011 and I can tell you and all you Albaniamn friends you have no idea the financial earthquake on its way that will flatten your western friends. Here is a tip for you go and buy gold as much as you can.
Ta ta US and EU.
(sj, 17 August 2011 12:50
The energy the ultranationalists are expending to try and make these recognitions seem insignificant seems to indicate otherwise.
I also doubt buying Gold at its inflated price would be sound advice at this time.

ben

pre 12 godina

2) The recognitions of Isle Sodor, Niger and Kingdom Mbuku Mbeka are not really much a concern for Russians otherwise Gazprom would fork out money worth a banquette they hold weekly and get the recognitions back.

(Ataman, 17 August 2011 12:28)

finally something smart said by you in long time.

So go back and eat your previous comments and of your fellas about Pacolli's money buying recognition - since we all know that Gazprom and Serbia have waaaaaaay bigger financial capacities than Pacolli. It is utterly ridiculous.

sj

pre 12 godina

So why your government did did not pay that money then?
And as far as UN is concerned, let’s see what happens when we pass the magic number (50% + 1).
SJ, do you really believe that anybody asks Serbia for anything today?
Still living on the “Serbia do Tokia” fairytale?
It is 2011 SJ, not 1952.
Boy, are you are on for a rude awakening!
(Gjergj Fishta, 17 August 2011 10:51)


I am not sure which government you talking about, but if its Serbia you have it wrong as I don’t live there. Have you ever been to either of these two countries? I have to Niger and I can tell you that its an all mighty hole of misery.
Working for a financial organization that deals with these states I can tell you that they can be purchased for a cheap drink and what is the point getting recognition from these places when they are meaningless.
I know what is happening in 2011 and I can tell you and all you Albaniamn friends you have no idea the financial earthquake on its way that will flatten your western friends. Here is a tip for you go and buy gold as much as you can.
Ta ta US and EU.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

The difference between Russia and Serbia is that Russia does not live in a dreamland and will not fight for Serbia’s lost dreams and Serbia’s fairytales.
Nowadays Russia things only about one thing Ataman, make money and not spend it.
They got everything that was worth in Serbia so no more interests there.
(Gjergj Fishta, 17 August 2011 11:17)

It's more kind of fighting for them self. Bush created an American-Russian conflict from what did look like a local conflict. Now it is firmly a war by proxy. This is precisely what I won't mind to discuss with Amer 1:1 and only if both of us are drunk enough. The rest is just flea circus.

From geo-political point of view the situation is more difficult now than in 1999. Than it did look like some sort of humanitarian conflict, be it made up or not is a different question.

Now we are talking about very strong division and serious concerns of Russia regarding Bondsteel and Kosovo's role.

There is also a dormant problem what the current leadership in Serbia does represent for Russia. Their wish to re-gain control of Kosovo by joining NATO and E.U. is pretty much on the surface. I am not sure, that is the right way (from Serbian point of view), from geo-political view it is not very good for Russia to say the least. From Russian point of view joining E.U. is acceptable - Russia, too, will have closer ties to E.U. But joining NATO is clearly a very negative step.

So if you look at all this - Russia has much more in this game than merely defending "Serbian dreams".

Niall O'Doherty

pre 12 godina

THANK YOU to Guinea Conakry & to the Republic of Niger !!!
(MR. B, 16 August 2011 19:07)

Yes, thank you to the Military Junta in Niger which has one of the lowest standards of living in the world and where 8% (nearly 900,000) of the country's 15.3 million population are enslaved.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/specials/1357_slavery_today/page3.shtml

and a big thank you to Guinea, a country where the army frequently interfers with the election process, murders dozens of unarmed protestors in the streets of Conakry, the two heads of the Electoral Commission were jailed for fraud amidst a disputed recent presidential election. Recently a US diplomat recently warned of a Rwandan like situation developing with the country splitting along ethnic lines.

Human rights and democracy...how are ya

Ataman

pre 12 godina

but those countries have not been able to stop one recognition?
(Loyal Albanian, 16 August 2011 22:46)

I said the same - but my conclusion is different. Besides, Russia is not military ally of China, they act according their own interests.

OK, few things probably everyone can agree:

1) Kosovo conflict in 2011 is American-Russian conflict by proxy. Americans want to have their own territory on Balkans and Russians very much do not want it to happen. Serbs and Albanians are merely puppets in this show.

2) The recognitions of Isle Sodor, Niger and Kingdom Mbuku Mbeka are not really much a concern for Russians otherwise Gazprom would fork out money worth a banquette they hold weekly and get the recognitions back.

We can only speculate about the rest and rest assure: we will never know the truth.

Gjergj Fishta

pre 12 godina

(Ataman, 16 August 2011 21:42)

I am lost here… are you trying to give answers or put questions forwards!!??

You say that Serbia is spending basically nothing… are you sure of that because it looks differently from where I am sitting.
Secondly, most of the countries (this includes all EU countries) that have not recognised Kosovo have not done that as a thing for Serbia and you know that. All of them have parts of territory that do not belong to them (they all have their Kosovo).

Do you really believe that Russia has/does/will ever loose a good night sleep and “piss off” some big customers for Serbia?
If you do, you are mistaken.
The difference between Russia and Serbia is that Russia does not live in a dreamland and will not fight for Serbia’s lost dreams and Serbia’s fairytales.
Nowadays Russia things only about one thing Ataman, make money and not spend it.
They got everything that was worth in Serbia so no more interests there.

J.Oker

pre 12 godina

" If it walks, talks and acts like a duck, it's a duck. Kosovo has almost all of the trade marks of a country and is in the transition stage of becoming fully sovereign. "
(Valon, 17 August 2011 01:56)

But it more quacks like a duck, and acts like a bull in a China shop :)

Gjergj Fishta

pre 12 godina

And at the same time, you celebrate the recognition by Guinea Conakry, another African dictorship famous for violation of human rights and killing protestors. Amazing :)
(Analyst, 17 August 2011 08:53)

So Libya, Syria, Russia, China, India and most of the countries that have not recognised Kosovo (the ones you are so proud of) are beacons of democracy, right Analyst!!!???
Does not sound so amazing now, does it?


If I was an Albanian official in Pristina I would keep this recognition very quiet - two proverbial black holes recognizing another.

It would have taken a total of $400 to $500 to get these guys to recognise Kosovo.

Let me say it for the millionth time; the entire world can recognise the thieving Albanians but it only takes one Serbia to keep it where it is – STATUS QUO twelve years and still going strong.
(sj, 17 August 2011 04:43)

So why your government did did not pay that money then?
And as far as UN is concerned, let’s see what happens when we pass the magic number (50% + 1).
SJ, do you really believe that anybody asks Serbia for anything today?
Still living on the “Serbia do Tokia” fairytale?
It is 2011 SJ, not 1952.
Boy, are you are on for a rude awakening!

Analyst

pre 12 godina

"Thank you African countries for welcoming us into the world community....I'm sitting on the edge of my seat following closely the advance of the rebels in Libya; and I hope sooner than later something is done for Assad. "
(KOSO, 16 August 2011 18:40)

And at the same time, you celebrate the recognition by Guinea Conakry, another African dictorship famous for violation of human rights and killing protestors. Amazing :)

sj

pre 12 godina

If I was an Albanian official in Pristina I would keep this recognition very quiet - two proverbial black holes recognizing another.

It would have taken a total of $400 to $500 to get these guys to recognise Kosovo.

Let me say it for the millionth time; the entire world can recognise the Albanians but it only takes one Serbia to keep it where it is – STATUS QUO twelve years and still going strong.

Je¿ kosowski, albañski i œćiptarski

pre 12 godina

Thank you for it ! well done, congratulation.
(Drini, 16 August 2011 21:55)

I will tell more only to Amer if I ever meet him in person and only if both of us are sufficiently drunk.

metrod

pre 12 godina

"Doesn`t matter!
UN1244 where stands that Kosovo is Serbia is still intact,Kosovo is blocked for UN,NATO by vetoes from our friends,even if they have 51% countries they will be immediately blocked by Russia and China from entering the UN!
CG"

- Sure, China and Russia will veto and help Serbia. Where have they been thus far?
But, go ahead and ride that train out and we'll see how far it will take you.

adamnyc

pre 12 godina

Still China knows: kosovo = taiwan. China will never say yes to UDI....
(guest, 16 August 2011 20:38)

how delightful... so you confirm that kosovo does not equal serbia. That china... like those still on the fence act of concern how recognizing independence could effect them.

Valon

pre 12 godina

The United Nations has been here since 1943. We had countries before the UN. We don't need the UN to be a country. If it walks, talks and acts like a duck, it's a duck. Kosovo has almost all of the trade marks of a country and is in the transition stage of becoming fully sovereign. Eventually even Serbia will recognize Kosovo, either this generation, or a smarter future generation. but it WILL happen.

Too funny

pre 12 godina

African countries Guinea-Conakry and Niger recognized kosovo albanians...great..now you albos can make travel arrangements to another black hole. "Guunea Conakry is one of the poorest nations on earth, Niger is one of the lowest ranks of the United Nations' Human Development Index (HDI), currently 167th of 169 countries. Niger remains handicapped by its landlocked position, desert terrain, poor education and poverty of its people, lack of infrastructure, poor health care, and environmental degradation."

I wonder how much ablo drug money it took to get these nations to recognize?
(michael, 16 August 2011 21:44)
Serbs are too funny, We've all known someone like this when someone gets something new the jealousy sets in and they have to find something wrong with it. Does it say more about who? I think we know!

Tomislav USA

pre 12 godina

Look out, Kosovo gets recognitions and the Albanians are out in force to celebrate. Really? It has come down to you guys tallying numbers while your "country" struggles to get basic services to its people? I know, it's the "cause" that matters. But flooding a Serbian website to give the impression that people care is comical to say the least. Get a life trolls..

Ralph Kramden

pre 12 godina

With an international telephone prefix for Monaco, Pristina is half way to becoming Geneva, just before it conquers the stars!
(Major Tom, 16 August 2011 21:14)

First they need to conquer the moon.

Think again,Vito!!!

pre 12 godina

K. Albanians announce African recognitions-

I heard that it didn't cost the Albanians all that much this time:
Some fine mesh mosquito netting, a couple a pair of walkie talkies,Nikes,etc. Anyway, congratulations on your recognitions and on your road to?
BTW,where do you think you going with those recognitions next? Orthodox Russia? Do you really think that Russians will sell themselves
like the Albanized Montewhatevers?

Loyal Albanian

pre 12 godina

As they say in Yugo "Opa Bato!" Congrats Kosova.

Can I use these recognitions to point out that Serbia has the wrong "friends"? Why is it that Russia and China are supposedly SO SO strong and Serbs love to mention them in debates as a reason why Kosova will never be a state, but those countries have not been able to stop one recognition? As I've said before those countries really dont care about Serbia in the end. All that they care about is $$$. Serbia sells Russia everything short of the kitchen sink for pennies and all Russia gives Serbia in return is a "strong protest" on Serbias behalf. It cost Russia NOTHING to protest, but it costs Serbia dearly to align themselves with Russia and China at the expense of getting real friends in the West and USA. Nobody likes Communist lovers in the West and thats exactly what Serbia has done with their misguided "foreign policy". You mess with the West, you mess with the BEST! Albanians have it right:)

Principa, Gracanica, KiM, Srbija

pre 12 godina

This is the same old story from days ago - nothing has been said from the country's themselves - just Pacolli saying that they will recognise - albo news even can't name both countries see article http://english.albeu.com/albania-news/two-african-countries-recognize-kosovo/43661/ where at first says Papua & Niger then later suggests Guinea (which could be one of 2 states - consent or Bissau) & Niger. Till it's official from the countries concerned there really is no recognition and what a poor showing of respect that Albo news can't even get the counties names right!

michael

pre 12 godina

hahah...who cares!

African countries Guinea-Conakry and Niger recognized kosovo albanians...great..now you albos can make travel arrangements to another black hole. "Guunea Conakry is one of the poorest nations on earth, Niger is one of the lowest ranks of the United Nations' Human Development Index (HDI), currently 167th of 169 countries. Niger remains handicapped by its landlocked position, desert terrain, poor education and poverty of its people, lack of infrastructure, poor health care, and environmental degradation."

I wonder how much ablo drug money it took to get these nations to recognize?

Major Tom

pre 12 godina

I wonder how Swiss managed to survive as a country/state till 2002, when they became a UN member state for the first time??? Any takers?
If Serbs think everything evolves by being a UN member, that, they are fools.
(Agim Kelmendi, 16 August 2011 19:59)

With an international telephone prefix for Monaco, Pristina is half way to becoming Geneva, just before it conquers the stars!

Ataman

pre 12 godina

I wonder how Swiss managed to survive as a country/state till 2002, when they became a UN member state for the first time??? Any takers?
If Serbs think everything evolves by being a UN member, that, they are fools.
(Agim Kelmendi, 16 August 2011 19:59)

Aha, now if that is the case - than why does Pacolli spend a fortune to bribe some poor countries?
According your logic he is even a bigger fool than Serbs who spend basically nothing.

Indeed... why basically nothing is spent? I am sure there are a dozen or two countries who just wait to be bribed into withdrawing the recognition. Remember Macedonia's recognition of Taiwan. These countries did recognize Kosovo in the hope, they can withdraw the recognition with some "help" of Gazprom's money.

Nothing happened. Just don't tell me that it is about moral or law. We are talking about countries where these two to a very large degree do not exist. Like Somalia - a certain government did recognize Kosovo which controls barely few blocks of a city. Here taking the recognition back would mean money even averagely wealthy individuals could afford.

Still, both Serbia (and Russia through her proxy) do not act pro-actively. Why is that? I am lost at it but either they are really dumb or more smart than we think. My only guess is something of really wild phantasy so I rather keep it for now.

Good luck for Rocky if he travels to Niger.

Amer

pre 12 godina

"How come South Sudan is less than a month old and already a UN member? How many rich South Sudanese had to go around begging/bribing other countries to recognize the country??
(???, 16 August 2011 18:35) "

South Sudan has oil that China wants, of course there's no problem with their recognition, and they certainly won't be pressuring anybody else to refuse it, either. What I've been wondering is whether South Sudan will now forget about the freedom and dignity of small nations and stiff Kosovo to keep China on its side. (Somehow I doubt Pacolli has enough money to build the oil pipeline China is supposed to have promised them.)

Mirel from Albania

pre 12 godina

...even if they have 51% countries they will be immediately blocked by Russia and China from entering the UN!...

CONGRATULATION KOSOVA IN #78 AND #79!

Right now your friends are saying that most of the UN nations don't recognise Kosova and that's why we are not haisty to move on.
If 100 countries recognise Kosova,than the pressure is bigger to the minority of the UN nations who hasitate to recognise Kosova.
Don't forget that ONLY 30 countries or less are saying that they will not recognise Kosova,for the rest of 84 is that Kosova's recognision is not in their TO DO list for the day,and have promised recognision in due time.
You have Kuwait,Yemen,East Timur,North and South Sudan,Paraguay,Bangladesh,CARICOM countries,Haiti etc who just need a little push to recognise Kosova.Don't forget that Lybia and Egypt is not in your side anymore.
Except Spain that is your loyal ally,all the countries that support Serbia such as Iran,Venezuela,Cuba,Russia,Burma,Vietnam,North Korea are either dictatorial countries or semi dictatures.
Kosova has been recognised by all C7 countries,22 most important countries EU and 24 NATO countries.Now Pacolli will loby in Africa and possibly in South America.French,British,USA,Germany and Italy diplomats are lobbing too for Kosova.
If I was like Serbs, I would have cut the loses and move on,because what they are behaving now they are going to end up with the vilayet of Belgrade in the end.
Kosova will be in UN very soon,like it or not.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

LOL too bad these recognitions bring nothing to the table other than a temporary sense of elation among the diaspora :) "Slowly but surely" what? You people have been saying that for years and you're still a ward of the EU :))

Agim Kelmendi

pre 12 godina

Doesn`t matter!
UN1244 where stands that Kosovo is Serbia is still intact,Kosovo is blocked for UN,NATO by vetoes from our friends,even if they have 51% countries they will be immediately blocked by Russia and China from entering the UN!
And one more thing:by 2016 China will become the worlds economy number 1 with a lot of African states becoming quasi colonies of China,be prepared for derecognitions folowing in that case!
(CG, 16 August 2011 18:43)


I wonder how Swiss managed to survive as a country/state till 2002, when they became a UN member state for the first time??? Any takers?
If Serbs think everything evolves by being a UN member, that, they are fools.

???

pre 12 godina

How come South Sudan is less than a month old and already a UN member? How many rich South Sudanese had to go around begging/bribing other countries to recognize the country??

CG

pre 12 godina

Doesn`t matter!
UN1244 where stands that Kosovo is Serbia is still intact,Kosovo is blocked for UN,NATO by vetoes from our friends,even if they have 51% countries they will be immediately blocked by Russia and China from entering the UN!
And one more thing:by 2016 China will become the worlds economy number 1 with a lot of African states becoming quasi colonies of China,be prepared for derecognitions folowing in that case!

KOSO

pre 12 godina

Thank you African countries for welcoming us into the world community....I'm sitting on the edge of my seat following closely the advance of the rebels in Libya; and I hope sooner than later something is done for Assad.




Thank you,

slowely but surely

pre 12 godina

What a beautiful thing; if we were able to endure centuries of obuse from serbs, we can wait for slow recognitions.

Slowly but surely as they like to say

NoolaV

pre 12 godina

This is a big buffet for Serbia, after North Kosovo tensions.Thanks a lot Guinea and Niger Republic.Bye bye Srbijo-:
Cheers from :Young European(Kosovar)

fatih koparan

pre 12 godina

2 more countries! %41 of world countries recognizes Kosovo now. Not much left for %51. I can hear some of our friends here saying to 2 insignificant countries. They are poor, they do drug-trafficking, Pacolli bribes them etc.. etc.. Every country counts. Those 2 recognitions means 2 less recognitions for Serbia. Today Serbia is only recognized by 114 states in the world. i hear people saying no! no! in fact it is true. Let's take Taiwan and China. Taiwan is recognized by 22 states in the world. And China has no diplomatic ties with those countries which recognizes Taiwan. Why? Because China is an honorable state. We can also say "Serbia is recognized by 192 states but 79 of them do not respect Serbia'a territorial integrity" And Serbia is ok with that! Number of the countries keep growing and Serbia can not do anything about it! Serbia and Russia can not even cope with Pacolli. Don't be so suprised if a few more recognitions come this week.

fatih koparan

pre 12 godina

2 more countries! %41 of world countries recognizes Kosovo now. Not much left for %51. I can hear some of our friends here saying to 2 insignificant countries. They are poor, they do drug-trafficking, Pacolli bribes them etc.. etc.. Every country counts. Those 2 recognitions means 2 less recognitions for Serbia. Today Serbia is only recognized by 114 states in the world. i hear people saying no! no! in fact it is true. Let's take Taiwan and China. Taiwan is recognized by 22 states in the world. And China has no diplomatic ties with those countries which recognizes Taiwan. Why? Because China is an honorable state. We can also say "Serbia is recognized by 192 states but 79 of them do not respect Serbia'a territorial integrity" And Serbia is ok with that! Number of the countries keep growing and Serbia can not do anything about it! Serbia and Russia can not even cope with Pacolli. Don't be so suprised if a few more recognitions come this week.

NoolaV

pre 12 godina

This is a big buffet for Serbia, after North Kosovo tensions.Thanks a lot Guinea and Niger Republic.Bye bye Srbijo-:
Cheers from :Young European(Kosovar)

KOSO

pre 12 godina

Thank you African countries for welcoming us into the world community....I'm sitting on the edge of my seat following closely the advance of the rebels in Libya; and I hope sooner than later something is done for Assad.




Thank you,

Mirel from Albania

pre 12 godina

...even if they have 51% countries they will be immediately blocked by Russia and China from entering the UN!...

CONGRATULATION KOSOVA IN #78 AND #79!

Right now your friends are saying that most of the UN nations don't recognise Kosova and that's why we are not haisty to move on.
If 100 countries recognise Kosova,than the pressure is bigger to the minority of the UN nations who hasitate to recognise Kosova.
Don't forget that ONLY 30 countries or less are saying that they will not recognise Kosova,for the rest of 84 is that Kosova's recognision is not in their TO DO list for the day,and have promised recognision in due time.
You have Kuwait,Yemen,East Timur,North and South Sudan,Paraguay,Bangladesh,CARICOM countries,Haiti etc who just need a little push to recognise Kosova.Don't forget that Lybia and Egypt is not in your side anymore.
Except Spain that is your loyal ally,all the countries that support Serbia such as Iran,Venezuela,Cuba,Russia,Burma,Vietnam,North Korea are either dictatorial countries or semi dictatures.
Kosova has been recognised by all C7 countries,22 most important countries EU and 24 NATO countries.Now Pacolli will loby in Africa and possibly in South America.French,British,USA,Germany and Italy diplomats are lobbing too for Kosova.
If I was like Serbs, I would have cut the loses and move on,because what they are behaving now they are going to end up with the vilayet of Belgrade in the end.
Kosova will be in UN very soon,like it or not.

slowely but surely

pre 12 godina

What a beautiful thing; if we were able to endure centuries of obuse from serbs, we can wait for slow recognitions.

Slowly but surely as they like to say

Agim Kelmendi

pre 12 godina

Doesn`t matter!
UN1244 where stands that Kosovo is Serbia is still intact,Kosovo is blocked for UN,NATO by vetoes from our friends,even if they have 51% countries they will be immediately blocked by Russia and China from entering the UN!
And one more thing:by 2016 China will become the worlds economy number 1 with a lot of African states becoming quasi colonies of China,be prepared for derecognitions folowing in that case!
(CG, 16 August 2011 18:43)


I wonder how Swiss managed to survive as a country/state till 2002, when they became a UN member state for the first time??? Any takers?
If Serbs think everything evolves by being a UN member, that, they are fools.

Loyal Albanian

pre 12 godina

As they say in Yugo "Opa Bato!" Congrats Kosova.

Can I use these recognitions to point out that Serbia has the wrong "friends"? Why is it that Russia and China are supposedly SO SO strong and Serbs love to mention them in debates as a reason why Kosova will never be a state, but those countries have not been able to stop one recognition? As I've said before those countries really dont care about Serbia in the end. All that they care about is $$$. Serbia sells Russia everything short of the kitchen sink for pennies and all Russia gives Serbia in return is a "strong protest" on Serbias behalf. It cost Russia NOTHING to protest, but it costs Serbia dearly to align themselves with Russia and China at the expense of getting real friends in the West and USA. Nobody likes Communist lovers in the West and thats exactly what Serbia has done with their misguided "foreign policy". You mess with the West, you mess with the BEST! Albanians have it right:)

CG

pre 12 godina

Doesn`t matter!
UN1244 where stands that Kosovo is Serbia is still intact,Kosovo is blocked for UN,NATO by vetoes from our friends,even if they have 51% countries they will be immediately blocked by Russia and China from entering the UN!
And one more thing:by 2016 China will become the worlds economy number 1 with a lot of African states becoming quasi colonies of China,be prepared for derecognitions folowing in that case!

michael

pre 12 godina

hahah...who cares!

African countries Guinea-Conakry and Niger recognized kosovo albanians...great..now you albos can make travel arrangements to another black hole. "Guunea Conakry is one of the poorest nations on earth, Niger is one of the lowest ranks of the United Nations' Human Development Index (HDI), currently 167th of 169 countries. Niger remains handicapped by its landlocked position, desert terrain, poor education and poverty of its people, lack of infrastructure, poor health care, and environmental degradation."

I wonder how much ablo drug money it took to get these nations to recognize?

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

LOL too bad these recognitions bring nothing to the table other than a temporary sense of elation among the diaspora :) "Slowly but surely" what? You people have been saying that for years and you're still a ward of the EU :))

Ataman

pre 12 godina

I wonder how Swiss managed to survive as a country/state till 2002, when they became a UN member state for the first time??? Any takers?
If Serbs think everything evolves by being a UN member, that, they are fools.
(Agim Kelmendi, 16 August 2011 19:59)

Aha, now if that is the case - than why does Pacolli spend a fortune to bribe some poor countries?
According your logic he is even a bigger fool than Serbs who spend basically nothing.

Indeed... why basically nothing is spent? I am sure there are a dozen or two countries who just wait to be bribed into withdrawing the recognition. Remember Macedonia's recognition of Taiwan. These countries did recognize Kosovo in the hope, they can withdraw the recognition with some "help" of Gazprom's money.

Nothing happened. Just don't tell me that it is about moral or law. We are talking about countries where these two to a very large degree do not exist. Like Somalia - a certain government did recognize Kosovo which controls barely few blocks of a city. Here taking the recognition back would mean money even averagely wealthy individuals could afford.

Still, both Serbia (and Russia through her proxy) do not act pro-actively. Why is that? I am lost at it but either they are really dumb or more smart than we think. My only guess is something of really wild phantasy so I rather keep it for now.

Good luck for Rocky if he travels to Niger.

Principa, Gracanica, KiM, Srbija

pre 12 godina

This is the same old story from days ago - nothing has been said from the country's themselves - just Pacolli saying that they will recognise - albo news even can't name both countries see article http://english.albeu.com/albania-news/two-african-countries-recognize-kosovo/43661/ where at first says Papua & Niger then later suggests Guinea (which could be one of 2 states - consent or Bissau) & Niger. Till it's official from the countries concerned there really is no recognition and what a poor showing of respect that Albo news can't even get the counties names right!

Valon

pre 12 godina

The United Nations has been here since 1943. We had countries before the UN. We don't need the UN to be a country. If it walks, talks and acts like a duck, it's a duck. Kosovo has almost all of the trade marks of a country and is in the transition stage of becoming fully sovereign. Eventually even Serbia will recognize Kosovo, either this generation, or a smarter future generation. but it WILL happen.

Amer

pre 12 godina

"How come South Sudan is less than a month old and already a UN member? How many rich South Sudanese had to go around begging/bribing other countries to recognize the country??
(???, 16 August 2011 18:35) "

South Sudan has oil that China wants, of course there's no problem with their recognition, and they certainly won't be pressuring anybody else to refuse it, either. What I've been wondering is whether South Sudan will now forget about the freedom and dignity of small nations and stiff Kosovo to keep China on its side. (Somehow I doubt Pacolli has enough money to build the oil pipeline China is supposed to have promised them.)

Tomislav USA

pre 12 godina

Look out, Kosovo gets recognitions and the Albanians are out in force to celebrate. Really? It has come down to you guys tallying numbers while your "country" struggles to get basic services to its people? I know, it's the "cause" that matters. But flooding a Serbian website to give the impression that people care is comical to say the least. Get a life trolls..

???

pre 12 godina

How come South Sudan is less than a month old and already a UN member? How many rich South Sudanese had to go around begging/bribing other countries to recognize the country??

Major Tom

pre 12 godina

I wonder how Swiss managed to survive as a country/state till 2002, when they became a UN member state for the first time??? Any takers?
If Serbs think everything evolves by being a UN member, that, they are fools.
(Agim Kelmendi, 16 August 2011 19:59)

With an international telephone prefix for Monaco, Pristina is half way to becoming Geneva, just before it conquers the stars!

Analyst

pre 12 godina

"Thank you African countries for welcoming us into the world community....I'm sitting on the edge of my seat following closely the advance of the rebels in Libya; and I hope sooner than later something is done for Assad. "
(KOSO, 16 August 2011 18:40)

And at the same time, you celebrate the recognition by Guinea Conakry, another African dictorship famous for violation of human rights and killing protestors. Amazing :)

Gjergj Fishta

pre 12 godina

And at the same time, you celebrate the recognition by Guinea Conakry, another African dictorship famous for violation of human rights and killing protestors. Amazing :)
(Analyst, 17 August 2011 08:53)

So Libya, Syria, Russia, China, India and most of the countries that have not recognised Kosovo (the ones you are so proud of) are beacons of democracy, right Analyst!!!???
Does not sound so amazing now, does it?


If I was an Albanian official in Pristina I would keep this recognition very quiet - two proverbial black holes recognizing another.

It would have taken a total of $400 to $500 to get these guys to recognise Kosovo.

Let me say it for the millionth time; the entire world can recognise the thieving Albanians but it only takes one Serbia to keep it where it is – STATUS QUO twelve years and still going strong.
(sj, 17 August 2011 04:43)

So why your government did did not pay that money then?
And as far as UN is concerned, let’s see what happens when we pass the magic number (50% + 1).
SJ, do you really believe that anybody asks Serbia for anything today?
Still living on the “Serbia do Tokia” fairytale?
It is 2011 SJ, not 1952.
Boy, are you are on for a rude awakening!

Gjergj Fishta

pre 12 godina

(Ataman, 16 August 2011 21:42)

I am lost here… are you trying to give answers or put questions forwards!!??

You say that Serbia is spending basically nothing… are you sure of that because it looks differently from where I am sitting.
Secondly, most of the countries (this includes all EU countries) that have not recognised Kosovo have not done that as a thing for Serbia and you know that. All of them have parts of territory that do not belong to them (they all have their Kosovo).

Do you really believe that Russia has/does/will ever loose a good night sleep and “piss off” some big customers for Serbia?
If you do, you are mistaken.
The difference between Russia and Serbia is that Russia does not live in a dreamland and will not fight for Serbia’s lost dreams and Serbia’s fairytales.
Nowadays Russia things only about one thing Ataman, make money and not spend it.
They got everything that was worth in Serbia so no more interests there.

Think again,Vito!!!

pre 12 godina

K. Albanians announce African recognitions-

I heard that it didn't cost the Albanians all that much this time:
Some fine mesh mosquito netting, a couple a pair of walkie talkies,Nikes,etc. Anyway, congratulations on your recognitions and on your road to?
BTW,where do you think you going with those recognitions next? Orthodox Russia? Do you really think that Russians will sell themselves
like the Albanized Montewhatevers?

metrod

pre 12 godina

"Doesn`t matter!
UN1244 where stands that Kosovo is Serbia is still intact,Kosovo is blocked for UN,NATO by vetoes from our friends,even if they have 51% countries they will be immediately blocked by Russia and China from entering the UN!
CG"

- Sure, China and Russia will veto and help Serbia. Where have they been thus far?
But, go ahead and ride that train out and we'll see how far it will take you.

miri

pre 12 godina

I wonder how much ablo drug money it took to get these nations to recognize?
(michael, 16 August 2011 21:44)

Incidentally, Russia is the biggest consumer of drugs in the world, so looks like this is Russian money after all.

Isn't it ironic?

Too funny

pre 12 godina

African countries Guinea-Conakry and Niger recognized kosovo albanians...great..now you albos can make travel arrangements to another black hole. "Guunea Conakry is one of the poorest nations on earth, Niger is one of the lowest ranks of the United Nations' Human Development Index (HDI), currently 167th of 169 countries. Niger remains handicapped by its landlocked position, desert terrain, poor education and poverty of its people, lack of infrastructure, poor health care, and environmental degradation."

I wonder how much ablo drug money it took to get these nations to recognize?
(michael, 16 August 2011 21:44)
Serbs are too funny, We've all known someone like this when someone gets something new the jealousy sets in and they have to find something wrong with it. Does it say more about who? I think we know!

ben

pre 12 godina

2) The recognitions of Isle Sodor, Niger and Kingdom Mbuku Mbeka are not really much a concern for Russians otherwise Gazprom would fork out money worth a banquette they hold weekly and get the recognitions back.

(Ataman, 17 August 2011 12:28)

finally something smart said by you in long time.

So go back and eat your previous comments and of your fellas about Pacolli's money buying recognition - since we all know that Gazprom and Serbia have waaaaaaay bigger financial capacities than Pacolli. It is utterly ridiculous.

Mirel from Albania

pre 12 godina

Is very simple my serbian fellows.
Till yetserday Kosova was formally recognised by 77 countries and today by 79.
Why all these negativity toward albanians?
They did their job in the end.It was your duty to keep these countries in your side,but they sliped to albanian side.
Yesterday albanians had to worry about 116 countries and today about 114.

Why do you think they have lost?

You guys(serbians) used to contol all YU 255 thousand sq km and 24 million people till 1990,now you are controlling some 60 thousand sq km and are 7.3 million people and you are still calling this as a victory???

think again

pre 12 godina

Yes, thank you to the Military Junta in Niger which has one of the lowest standards of living in the world and where 8% (nearly 900,000) of the country's 15.3 million population are enslaved.
[link]

and a big thank you to Guinea, a country where the army frequently interfers with the election process, murders dozens of unarmed protestors in the streets of Conakry, the two heads of the Electoral Commission were jailed for fraud amidst a disputed recent presidential election. Recently a US diplomat recently warned of a Rwandan like situation developing with the country splitting along ethnic lines.

Human rights and democracy...how are ya
(Niall O'Doherty, 17 August 2011 12:58)
And just 3days ago when Serbia was claiming they were supporters of Serbia because they had not recognized Kosovo they were defenders of international law. Now they are corrupt juntas. Is this a judgment on the morals of these 2 countries or on Serbia.

Ralph Kramden

pre 12 godina

With an international telephone prefix for Monaco, Pristina is half way to becoming Geneva, just before it conquers the stars!
(Major Tom, 16 August 2011 21:14)

First they need to conquer the moon.

adamnyc

pre 12 godina

Still China knows: kosovo = taiwan. China will never say yes to UDI....
(guest, 16 August 2011 20:38)

how delightful... so you confirm that kosovo does not equal serbia. That china... like those still on the fence act of concern how recognizing independence could effect them.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

So go back and eat your previous comments and of your fellas about Pacolli's money buying recognition - since we all know that Gazprom and Serbia have waaaaaaay bigger financial capacities than Pacolli. It is utterly ridiculous.
(ben, 17 August 2011 13:08)

It was Pacolli himself who said, he did buy recognitions. Like it this case, too. Please read the whole article. I am not sure about Serbian budget - but as for Gazprom budget: there is no comparison with any private person in the area, Pacolli included. And since it looks like nothing happened on their side we can have two picks:


a) IT MERELY LOOKS like nothing happened
b) they are not interested

The b) is out of question. Not much remains - now our guess could be what is behind the scene. If you know the history and the mentality of Gazprom bosses, you can have pretty interesting guesses.

Tomislav USA

pre 12 godina

Why all these negativity toward albanians?
(Mirel from Albania, 17 August 2011 15:53)

Are you for real? I mean seriously? Albanians flooding a SERBIAN website to gloat about 2 countries they bought off and you're wondering why are Serbs negative, or better yet, why are we mocking you Albanians? Other than it's been easy to do, you trolls haven't figured out that maybe this issue has consumed you. People like myself are living life large and you guys are obsessed with recognitions because that will somehow make us like you? Or you want our approval? Or maybe get things done for the relatives back home? Or do you think chest-thumping is somehow going to make the Serbs bow down to the mighty Albanians? You folks are absolutely comical, no two ways about it.

adamnyc

pre 12 godina

Are you for real? I mean seriously? Albanians flooding a SERBIAN website to gloat about 2 countries they bought off and you're wondering why are Serbs negative, or better yet, why are we mocking you Albanians? Other than it's been easy to do, you trolls haven't figured out that maybe this issue has consumed you. People like myself are living life large and you guys are obsessed with recognitions because that will somehow make us like you? Or you want our approval? Or maybe get things done for the relatives back home? Or do you think chest-thumping is somehow going to make the Serbs bow down to the mighty Albanians? You folks are absolutely comical, no two ways about it.
(Tomislav USA, 17 August 2011 18:39)

lol stop crying. when b92 stops PROMOTING itself on international news feeds...stops translating serbian news for FOREIGN consumption...wich it can easily do. THEN you can cry about this being a "serbian" website.

As long as it is a News site ANYTHING you say on the matter just shows you dont like serb apologists propaganda exposed and belitttled in real time.

sj

pre 12 godina

If I was an Albanian official in Pristina I would keep this recognition very quiet - two proverbial black holes recognizing another.

It would have taken a total of $400 to $500 to get these guys to recognise Kosovo.

Let me say it for the millionth time; the entire world can recognise the Albanians but it only takes one Serbia to keep it where it is – STATUS QUO twelve years and still going strong.

sj

pre 12 godina

So why your government did did not pay that money then?
And as far as UN is concerned, let’s see what happens when we pass the magic number (50% + 1).
SJ, do you really believe that anybody asks Serbia for anything today?
Still living on the “Serbia do Tokia” fairytale?
It is 2011 SJ, not 1952.
Boy, are you are on for a rude awakening!
(Gjergj Fishta, 17 August 2011 10:51)


I am not sure which government you talking about, but if its Serbia you have it wrong as I don’t live there. Have you ever been to either of these two countries? I have to Niger and I can tell you that its an all mighty hole of misery.
Working for a financial organization that deals with these states I can tell you that they can be purchased for a cheap drink and what is the point getting recognition from these places when they are meaningless.
I know what is happening in 2011 and I can tell you and all you Albaniamn friends you have no idea the financial earthquake on its way that will flatten your western friends. Here is a tip for you go and buy gold as much as you can.
Ta ta US and EU.

J.Oker

pre 12 godina

" If it walks, talks and acts like a duck, it's a duck. Kosovo has almost all of the trade marks of a country and is in the transition stage of becoming fully sovereign. "
(Valon, 17 August 2011 01:56)

But it more quacks like a duck, and acts like a bull in a China shop :)

Ataman

pre 12 godina

The difference between Russia and Serbia is that Russia does not live in a dreamland and will not fight for Serbia’s lost dreams and Serbia’s fairytales.
Nowadays Russia things only about one thing Ataman, make money and not spend it.
They got everything that was worth in Serbia so no more interests there.
(Gjergj Fishta, 17 August 2011 11:17)

It's more kind of fighting for them self. Bush created an American-Russian conflict from what did look like a local conflict. Now it is firmly a war by proxy. This is precisely what I won't mind to discuss with Amer 1:1 and only if both of us are drunk enough. The rest is just flea circus.

From geo-political point of view the situation is more difficult now than in 1999. Than it did look like some sort of humanitarian conflict, be it made up or not is a different question.

Now we are talking about very strong division and serious concerns of Russia regarding Bondsteel and Kosovo's role.

There is also a dormant problem what the current leadership in Serbia does represent for Russia. Their wish to re-gain control of Kosovo by joining NATO and E.U. is pretty much on the surface. I am not sure, that is the right way (from Serbian point of view), from geo-political view it is not very good for Russia to say the least. From Russian point of view joining E.U. is acceptable - Russia, too, will have closer ties to E.U. But joining NATO is clearly a very negative step.

So if you look at all this - Russia has much more in this game than merely defending "Serbian dreams".

Niall O'Doherty

pre 12 godina

THANK YOU to Guinea Conakry & to the Republic of Niger !!!
(MR. B, 16 August 2011 19:07)

Yes, thank you to the Military Junta in Niger which has one of the lowest standards of living in the world and where 8% (nearly 900,000) of the country's 15.3 million population are enslaved.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/specials/1357_slavery_today/page3.shtml

and a big thank you to Guinea, a country where the army frequently interfers with the election process, murders dozens of unarmed protestors in the streets of Conakry, the two heads of the Electoral Commission were jailed for fraud amidst a disputed recent presidential election. Recently a US diplomat recently warned of a Rwandan like situation developing with the country splitting along ethnic lines.

Human rights and democracy...how are ya

Poster

pre 12 godina

Pacolli has just stated that the African Republic of Benin has recognized Kosovo. That makes 80 recognitions by now. Pacolli also said that more recognitions will follow the next days.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

but those countries have not been able to stop one recognition?
(Loyal Albanian, 16 August 2011 22:46)

I said the same - but my conclusion is different. Besides, Russia is not military ally of China, they act according their own interests.

OK, few things probably everyone can agree:

1) Kosovo conflict in 2011 is American-Russian conflict by proxy. Americans want to have their own territory on Balkans and Russians very much do not want it to happen. Serbs and Albanians are merely puppets in this show.

2) The recognitions of Isle Sodor, Niger and Kingdom Mbuku Mbeka are not really much a concern for Russians otherwise Gazprom would fork out money worth a banquette they hold weekly and get the recognitions back.

We can only speculate about the rest and rest assure: we will never know the truth.

pss

pre 12 godina

I am not sure which government you talking about, but if its Serbia you have it wrong as I don’t live there. Have you ever been to either of these two countries? I have to Niger and I can tell you that its an all mighty hole of misery.
Working for a financial organization that deals with these states I can tell you that they can be purchased for a cheap drink and what is the point getting recognition from these places when they are meaningless.
I know what is happening in 2011 and I can tell you and all you Albaniamn friends you have no idea the financial earthquake on its way that will flatten your western friends. Here is a tip for you go and buy gold as much as you can.
Ta ta US and EU.
(sj, 17 August 2011 12:50
The energy the ultranationalists are expending to try and make these recognitions seem insignificant seems to indicate otherwise.
I also doubt buying Gold at its inflated price would be sound advice at this time.

Analyst

pre 12 godina

"Except Spain that is your loyal ally,all the countries that support Serbia such as Iran,Venezuela,Cuba,Russia,Burma,Vietnam,North Korea are either dictatorial countries or semi dictatures. "
(Mirel from Albania, 16 August 2011 19:33)

Sure, and the countries recently 'recognized' Kosovo are democracies, or what? In fact, they are either african (islamist) countries with an extremly low ranking on HDI, poor and corrupt and/or small tropical islands with less inhabitans than a city in a normal country. It must have been easy for Pacolli to 'lobby' these recognitions with some $10,000s for the pockets of a responsible minister.

You think countries like Greece and Slovakia, Israel are semi dictature? Interesting opinion.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

Isn't it ironic?
(miri, 17 August 2011 16:29)

The biggest consumer is USA - but let's bookmark this discussion and let's see at one point later what will happen. We may recycle this conversation. I am even more confident regarding my opinion about all the recognitions - but sorry I won't say more this time, I said more than enough, I am not drunk now and I am not with Amer 1:1. So I finish that for now. See the results at one point later.

Tomislav USA

pre 12 godina

lol stop crying. when b92 stops PROMOTING itself on international news feeds...stops translating serbian news for FOREIGN consumption...wich it can easily do. THEN you can cry about this being a "serbian" website.

(adamnyc, 18 August 2011 00:14)


Hey Adam, thanks for proving my point. No one is crying, I'm just laughing at you. I know it stung so that's why you and your little trolls are living on websites all day long trying to counter anything "Kosova" related. B92 has been around a while and was shut down during Milosevic's tenure. You Albanians are barking up the wrong tree and flood the forum with snotty childish remarks thinking that somehow you got one over us. Now that's truly comical... Let me say I don't care how many countries recognize your little colony. I just think it's hilarious you guys want to celebrate each one while your little colony has no future what so ever.

Janez-Beograd

pre 12 godina

Pacolli has just stated that the African Republic of Benin has recognized Kosovo. That makes 80 recognitions by now. Pacolli also said that more recognitions will follow the next days.
(Poster, 18 August 2011 10:57)

I remember reading an article in one of the UK papers about corruption in countries like Ireland and Greece where the common form of bribe was a brown enveleope stuffed with cash. Here its usually a suitcase or two stuffed with dollars/euros.

Either way, it still wont change the situation on the ground with 60% unemployment and a non existant economy. My Albanian neighbour always needs to send money via WU from his monthly paycheck to help his extended family in Prizren get by. What he tells me is sad, young people desperate to leave. Maybe Mr Pacolli would be better spending the money on improving the lives of ordinary people rather than throw it at African kleptocrats.

Anyway he just left me with a fine bottle of red from Rahovec. God Bless him :)

Je¿ kosowski, albañski i œćiptarski

pre 12 godina

Thank you for it ! well done, congratulation.
(Drini, 16 August 2011 21:55)

I will tell more only to Amer if I ever meet him in person and only if both of us are sufficiently drunk.

Janez-Beograd

pre 12 godina

And just 3days ago when Serbia was claiming they were supporters of Serbia because they had not recognized Kosovo they were defenders of international law. Now they are corrupt juntas. Is this a judgment on the morals of these 2 countries or on Serbia.
(think again, 17 August 2011 16:36)

No Serbia did not say that there were its supporters or that they were defenders of international law. Serbia has its trustworthy allies to fight the battles she needs. Serbia has Russia, China, India, South Africa, Brazil, Argentina, Spain, Mexico, Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua, Nigeria, Algeria, Egypt, Iran etc who will block the Pristina freakshow.

Face it, you need Belgrade's nod no other way about it. Why is there so much pressure being exerted on Serbia right now with regard to EU accession talks?

icj1

pre 12 godina

Face it, you need Belgrade's nod no other way about it.
(Janez-Beograd, 18 August 2011 15:38)

Of course Belgrade's nod is needed for Serbia's recognition. The same way the Benin's nod is needed for Benin's recognition, and so on.

CG

pre 12 godina

Doesn`t matter!
UN1244 where stands that Kosovo is Serbia is still intact,Kosovo is blocked for UN,NATO by vetoes from our friends,even if they have 51% countries they will be immediately blocked by Russia and China from entering the UN!
And one more thing:by 2016 China will become the worlds economy number 1 with a lot of African states becoming quasi colonies of China,be prepared for derecognitions folowing in that case!

michael

pre 12 godina

hahah...who cares!

African countries Guinea-Conakry and Niger recognized kosovo albanians...great..now you albos can make travel arrangements to another black hole. "Guunea Conakry is one of the poorest nations on earth, Niger is one of the lowest ranks of the United Nations' Human Development Index (HDI), currently 167th of 169 countries. Niger remains handicapped by its landlocked position, desert terrain, poor education and poverty of its people, lack of infrastructure, poor health care, and environmental degradation."

I wonder how much ablo drug money it took to get these nations to recognize?

???

pre 12 godina

How come South Sudan is less than a month old and already a UN member? How many rich South Sudanese had to go around begging/bribing other countries to recognize the country??

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

LOL too bad these recognitions bring nothing to the table other than a temporary sense of elation among the diaspora :) "Slowly but surely" what? You people have been saying that for years and you're still a ward of the EU :))

Principa, Gracanica, KiM, Srbija

pre 12 godina

This is the same old story from days ago - nothing has been said from the country's themselves - just Pacolli saying that they will recognise - albo news even can't name both countries see article http://english.albeu.com/albania-news/two-african-countries-recognize-kosovo/43661/ where at first says Papua & Niger then later suggests Guinea (which could be one of 2 states - consent or Bissau) & Niger. Till it's official from the countries concerned there really is no recognition and what a poor showing of respect that Albo news can't even get the counties names right!

Tomislav USA

pre 12 godina

lol stop crying. when b92 stops PROMOTING itself on international news feeds...stops translating serbian news for FOREIGN consumption...wich it can easily do. THEN you can cry about this being a "serbian" website.

(adamnyc, 18 August 2011 00:14)


Hey Adam, thanks for proving my point. No one is crying, I'm just laughing at you. I know it stung so that's why you and your little trolls are living on websites all day long trying to counter anything "Kosova" related. B92 has been around a while and was shut down during Milosevic's tenure. You Albanians are barking up the wrong tree and flood the forum with snotty childish remarks thinking that somehow you got one over us. Now that's truly comical... Let me say I don't care how many countries recognize your little colony. I just think it's hilarious you guys want to celebrate each one while your little colony has no future what so ever.

Mirel from Albania

pre 12 godina

...even if they have 51% countries they will be immediately blocked by Russia and China from entering the UN!...

CONGRATULATION KOSOVA IN #78 AND #79!

Right now your friends are saying that most of the UN nations don't recognise Kosova and that's why we are not haisty to move on.
If 100 countries recognise Kosova,than the pressure is bigger to the minority of the UN nations who hasitate to recognise Kosova.
Don't forget that ONLY 30 countries or less are saying that they will not recognise Kosova,for the rest of 84 is that Kosova's recognision is not in their TO DO list for the day,and have promised recognision in due time.
You have Kuwait,Yemen,East Timur,North and South Sudan,Paraguay,Bangladesh,CARICOM countries,Haiti etc who just need a little push to recognise Kosova.Don't forget that Lybia and Egypt is not in your side anymore.
Except Spain that is your loyal ally,all the countries that support Serbia such as Iran,Venezuela,Cuba,Russia,Burma,Vietnam,North Korea are either dictatorial countries or semi dictatures.
Kosova has been recognised by all C7 countries,22 most important countries EU and 24 NATO countries.Now Pacolli will loby in Africa and possibly in South America.French,British,USA,Germany and Italy diplomats are lobbing too for Kosova.
If I was like Serbs, I would have cut the loses and move on,because what they are behaving now they are going to end up with the vilayet of Belgrade in the end.
Kosova will be in UN very soon,like it or not.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 12 godina

Doesn`t matter!
UN1244 where stands that Kosovo is Serbia is still intact,Kosovo is blocked for UN,NATO by vetoes from our friends,even if they have 51% countries they will be immediately blocked by Russia and China from entering the UN!
And one more thing:by 2016 China will become the worlds economy number 1 with a lot of African states becoming quasi colonies of China,be prepared for derecognitions folowing in that case!
(CG, 16 August 2011 18:43)


I wonder how Swiss managed to survive as a country/state till 2002, when they became a UN member state for the first time??? Any takers?
If Serbs think everything evolves by being a UN member, that, they are fools.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

I wonder how Swiss managed to survive as a country/state till 2002, when they became a UN member state for the first time??? Any takers?
If Serbs think everything evolves by being a UN member, that, they are fools.
(Agim Kelmendi, 16 August 2011 19:59)

Aha, now if that is the case - than why does Pacolli spend a fortune to bribe some poor countries?
According your logic he is even a bigger fool than Serbs who spend basically nothing.

Indeed... why basically nothing is spent? I am sure there are a dozen or two countries who just wait to be bribed into withdrawing the recognition. Remember Macedonia's recognition of Taiwan. These countries did recognize Kosovo in the hope, they can withdraw the recognition with some "help" of Gazprom's money.

Nothing happened. Just don't tell me that it is about moral or law. We are talking about countries where these two to a very large degree do not exist. Like Somalia - a certain government did recognize Kosovo which controls barely few blocks of a city. Here taking the recognition back would mean money even averagely wealthy individuals could afford.

Still, both Serbia (and Russia through her proxy) do not act pro-actively. Why is that? I am lost at it but either they are really dumb or more smart than we think. My only guess is something of really wild phantasy so I rather keep it for now.

Good luck for Rocky if he travels to Niger.

Major Tom

pre 12 godina

I wonder how Swiss managed to survive as a country/state till 2002, when they became a UN member state for the first time??? Any takers?
If Serbs think everything evolves by being a UN member, that, they are fools.
(Agim Kelmendi, 16 August 2011 19:59)

With an international telephone prefix for Monaco, Pristina is half way to becoming Geneva, just before it conquers the stars!

NoolaV

pre 12 godina

This is a big buffet for Serbia, after North Kosovo tensions.Thanks a lot Guinea and Niger Republic.Bye bye Srbijo-:
Cheers from :Young European(Kosovar)

Tomislav USA

pre 12 godina

Look out, Kosovo gets recognitions and the Albanians are out in force to celebrate. Really? It has come down to you guys tallying numbers while your "country" struggles to get basic services to its people? I know, it's the "cause" that matters. But flooding a Serbian website to give the impression that people care is comical to say the least. Get a life trolls..

slowely but surely

pre 12 godina

What a beautiful thing; if we were able to endure centuries of obuse from serbs, we can wait for slow recognitions.

Slowly but surely as they like to say

KOSO

pre 12 godina

Thank you African countries for welcoming us into the world community....I'm sitting on the edge of my seat following closely the advance of the rebels in Libya; and I hope sooner than later something is done for Assad.




Thank you,

Analyst

pre 12 godina

"Thank you African countries for welcoming us into the world community....I'm sitting on the edge of my seat following closely the advance of the rebels in Libya; and I hope sooner than later something is done for Assad. "
(KOSO, 16 August 2011 18:40)

And at the same time, you celebrate the recognition by Guinea Conakry, another African dictorship famous for violation of human rights and killing protestors. Amazing :)

fatih koparan

pre 12 godina

2 more countries! %41 of world countries recognizes Kosovo now. Not much left for %51. I can hear some of our friends here saying to 2 insignificant countries. They are poor, they do drug-trafficking, Pacolli bribes them etc.. etc.. Every country counts. Those 2 recognitions means 2 less recognitions for Serbia. Today Serbia is only recognized by 114 states in the world. i hear people saying no! no! in fact it is true. Let's take Taiwan and China. Taiwan is recognized by 22 states in the world. And China has no diplomatic ties with those countries which recognizes Taiwan. Why? Because China is an honorable state. We can also say "Serbia is recognized by 192 states but 79 of them do not respect Serbia'a territorial integrity" And Serbia is ok with that! Number of the countries keep growing and Serbia can not do anything about it! Serbia and Russia can not even cope with Pacolli. Don't be so suprised if a few more recognitions come this week.

sj

pre 12 godina

If I was an Albanian official in Pristina I would keep this recognition very quiet - two proverbial black holes recognizing another.

It would have taken a total of $400 to $500 to get these guys to recognise Kosovo.

Let me say it for the millionth time; the entire world can recognise the Albanians but it only takes one Serbia to keep it where it is – STATUS QUO twelve years and still going strong.

Loyal Albanian

pre 12 godina

As they say in Yugo "Opa Bato!" Congrats Kosova.

Can I use these recognitions to point out that Serbia has the wrong "friends"? Why is it that Russia and China are supposedly SO SO strong and Serbs love to mention them in debates as a reason why Kosova will never be a state, but those countries have not been able to stop one recognition? As I've said before those countries really dont care about Serbia in the end. All that they care about is $$$. Serbia sells Russia everything short of the kitchen sink for pennies and all Russia gives Serbia in return is a "strong protest" on Serbias behalf. It cost Russia NOTHING to protest, but it costs Serbia dearly to align themselves with Russia and China at the expense of getting real friends in the West and USA. Nobody likes Communist lovers in the West and thats exactly what Serbia has done with their misguided "foreign policy". You mess with the West, you mess with the BEST! Albanians have it right:)

sj

pre 12 godina

So why your government did did not pay that money then?
And as far as UN is concerned, let’s see what happens when we pass the magic number (50% + 1).
SJ, do you really believe that anybody asks Serbia for anything today?
Still living on the “Serbia do Tokia” fairytale?
It is 2011 SJ, not 1952.
Boy, are you are on for a rude awakening!
(Gjergj Fishta, 17 August 2011 10:51)


I am not sure which government you talking about, but if its Serbia you have it wrong as I don’t live there. Have you ever been to either of these two countries? I have to Niger and I can tell you that its an all mighty hole of misery.
Working for a financial organization that deals with these states I can tell you that they can be purchased for a cheap drink and what is the point getting recognition from these places when they are meaningless.
I know what is happening in 2011 and I can tell you and all you Albaniamn friends you have no idea the financial earthquake on its way that will flatten your western friends. Here is a tip for you go and buy gold as much as you can.
Ta ta US and EU.

Niall O'Doherty

pre 12 godina

THANK YOU to Guinea Conakry & to the Republic of Niger !!!
(MR. B, 16 August 2011 19:07)

Yes, thank you to the Military Junta in Niger which has one of the lowest standards of living in the world and where 8% (nearly 900,000) of the country's 15.3 million population are enslaved.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/specials/1357_slavery_today/page3.shtml

and a big thank you to Guinea, a country where the army frequently interfers with the election process, murders dozens of unarmed protestors in the streets of Conakry, the two heads of the Electoral Commission were jailed for fraud amidst a disputed recent presidential election. Recently a US diplomat recently warned of a Rwandan like situation developing with the country splitting along ethnic lines.

Human rights and democracy...how are ya

Amer

pre 12 godina

"How come South Sudan is less than a month old and already a UN member? How many rich South Sudanese had to go around begging/bribing other countries to recognize the country??
(???, 16 August 2011 18:35) "

South Sudan has oil that China wants, of course there's no problem with their recognition, and they certainly won't be pressuring anybody else to refuse it, either. What I've been wondering is whether South Sudan will now forget about the freedom and dignity of small nations and stiff Kosovo to keep China on its side. (Somehow I doubt Pacolli has enough money to build the oil pipeline China is supposed to have promised them.)

Think again,Vito!!!

pre 12 godina

K. Albanians announce African recognitions-

I heard that it didn't cost the Albanians all that much this time:
Some fine mesh mosquito netting, a couple a pair of walkie talkies,Nikes,etc. Anyway, congratulations on your recognitions and on your road to?
BTW,where do you think you going with those recognitions next? Orthodox Russia? Do you really think that Russians will sell themselves
like the Albanized Montewhatevers?

Gjergj Fishta

pre 12 godina

(Ataman, 16 August 2011 21:42)

I am lost here… are you trying to give answers or put questions forwards!!??

You say that Serbia is spending basically nothing… are you sure of that because it looks differently from where I am sitting.
Secondly, most of the countries (this includes all EU countries) that have not recognised Kosovo have not done that as a thing for Serbia and you know that. All of them have parts of territory that do not belong to them (they all have their Kosovo).

Do you really believe that Russia has/does/will ever loose a good night sleep and “piss off” some big customers for Serbia?
If you do, you are mistaken.
The difference between Russia and Serbia is that Russia does not live in a dreamland and will not fight for Serbia’s lost dreams and Serbia’s fairytales.
Nowadays Russia things only about one thing Ataman, make money and not spend it.
They got everything that was worth in Serbia so no more interests there.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

The difference between Russia and Serbia is that Russia does not live in a dreamland and will not fight for Serbia’s lost dreams and Serbia’s fairytales.
Nowadays Russia things only about one thing Ataman, make money and not spend it.
They got everything that was worth in Serbia so no more interests there.
(Gjergj Fishta, 17 August 2011 11:17)

It's more kind of fighting for them self. Bush created an American-Russian conflict from what did look like a local conflict. Now it is firmly a war by proxy. This is precisely what I won't mind to discuss with Amer 1:1 and only if both of us are drunk enough. The rest is just flea circus.

From geo-political point of view the situation is more difficult now than in 1999. Than it did look like some sort of humanitarian conflict, be it made up or not is a different question.

Now we are talking about very strong division and serious concerns of Russia regarding Bondsteel and Kosovo's role.

There is also a dormant problem what the current leadership in Serbia does represent for Russia. Their wish to re-gain control of Kosovo by joining NATO and E.U. is pretty much on the surface. I am not sure, that is the right way (from Serbian point of view), from geo-political view it is not very good for Russia to say the least. From Russian point of view joining E.U. is acceptable - Russia, too, will have closer ties to E.U. But joining NATO is clearly a very negative step.

So if you look at all this - Russia has much more in this game than merely defending "Serbian dreams".

Ataman

pre 12 godina

but those countries have not been able to stop one recognition?
(Loyal Albanian, 16 August 2011 22:46)

I said the same - but my conclusion is different. Besides, Russia is not military ally of China, they act according their own interests.

OK, few things probably everyone can agree:

1) Kosovo conflict in 2011 is American-Russian conflict by proxy. Americans want to have their own territory on Balkans and Russians very much do not want it to happen. Serbs and Albanians are merely puppets in this show.

2) The recognitions of Isle Sodor, Niger and Kingdom Mbuku Mbeka are not really much a concern for Russians otherwise Gazprom would fork out money worth a banquette they hold weekly and get the recognitions back.

We can only speculate about the rest and rest assure: we will never know the truth.

Ralph Kramden

pre 12 godina

With an international telephone prefix for Monaco, Pristina is half way to becoming Geneva, just before it conquers the stars!
(Major Tom, 16 August 2011 21:14)

First they need to conquer the moon.

Je¿ kosowski, albañski i œćiptarski

pre 12 godina

Thank you for it ! well done, congratulation.
(Drini, 16 August 2011 21:55)

I will tell more only to Amer if I ever meet him in person and only if both of us are sufficiently drunk.

Gjergj Fishta

pre 12 godina

And at the same time, you celebrate the recognition by Guinea Conakry, another African dictorship famous for violation of human rights and killing protestors. Amazing :)
(Analyst, 17 August 2011 08:53)

So Libya, Syria, Russia, China, India and most of the countries that have not recognised Kosovo (the ones you are so proud of) are beacons of democracy, right Analyst!!!???
Does not sound so amazing now, does it?


If I was an Albanian official in Pristina I would keep this recognition very quiet - two proverbial black holes recognizing another.

It would have taken a total of $400 to $500 to get these guys to recognise Kosovo.

Let me say it for the millionth time; the entire world can recognise the thieving Albanians but it only takes one Serbia to keep it where it is – STATUS QUO twelve years and still going strong.
(sj, 17 August 2011 04:43)

So why your government did did not pay that money then?
And as far as UN is concerned, let’s see what happens when we pass the magic number (50% + 1).
SJ, do you really believe that anybody asks Serbia for anything today?
Still living on the “Serbia do Tokia” fairytale?
It is 2011 SJ, not 1952.
Boy, are you are on for a rude awakening!

Mirel from Albania

pre 12 godina

Is very simple my serbian fellows.
Till yetserday Kosova was formally recognised by 77 countries and today by 79.
Why all these negativity toward albanians?
They did their job in the end.It was your duty to keep these countries in your side,but they sliped to albanian side.
Yesterday albanians had to worry about 116 countries and today about 114.

Why do you think they have lost?

You guys(serbians) used to contol all YU 255 thousand sq km and 24 million people till 1990,now you are controlling some 60 thousand sq km and are 7.3 million people and you are still calling this as a victory???

J.Oker

pre 12 godina

" If it walks, talks and acts like a duck, it's a duck. Kosovo has almost all of the trade marks of a country and is in the transition stage of becoming fully sovereign. "
(Valon, 17 August 2011 01:56)

But it more quacks like a duck, and acts like a bull in a China shop :)

Too funny

pre 12 godina

African countries Guinea-Conakry and Niger recognized kosovo albanians...great..now you albos can make travel arrangements to another black hole. "Guunea Conakry is one of the poorest nations on earth, Niger is one of the lowest ranks of the United Nations' Human Development Index (HDI), currently 167th of 169 countries. Niger remains handicapped by its landlocked position, desert terrain, poor education and poverty of its people, lack of infrastructure, poor health care, and environmental degradation."

I wonder how much ablo drug money it took to get these nations to recognize?
(michael, 16 August 2011 21:44)
Serbs are too funny, We've all known someone like this when someone gets something new the jealousy sets in and they have to find something wrong with it. Does it say more about who? I think we know!

metrod

pre 12 godina

"Doesn`t matter!
UN1244 where stands that Kosovo is Serbia is still intact,Kosovo is blocked for UN,NATO by vetoes from our friends,even if they have 51% countries they will be immediately blocked by Russia and China from entering the UN!
CG"

- Sure, China and Russia will veto and help Serbia. Where have they been thus far?
But, go ahead and ride that train out and we'll see how far it will take you.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

Isn't it ironic?
(miri, 17 August 2011 16:29)

The biggest consumer is USA - but let's bookmark this discussion and let's see at one point later what will happen. We may recycle this conversation. I am even more confident regarding my opinion about all the recognitions - but sorry I won't say more this time, I said more than enough, I am not drunk now and I am not with Amer 1:1. So I finish that for now. See the results at one point later.

Tomislav USA

pre 12 godina

Why all these negativity toward albanians?
(Mirel from Albania, 17 August 2011 15:53)

Are you for real? I mean seriously? Albanians flooding a SERBIAN website to gloat about 2 countries they bought off and you're wondering why are Serbs negative, or better yet, why are we mocking you Albanians? Other than it's been easy to do, you trolls haven't figured out that maybe this issue has consumed you. People like myself are living life large and you guys are obsessed with recognitions because that will somehow make us like you? Or you want our approval? Or maybe get things done for the relatives back home? Or do you think chest-thumping is somehow going to make the Serbs bow down to the mighty Albanians? You folks are absolutely comical, no two ways about it.

adamnyc

pre 12 godina

Still China knows: kosovo = taiwan. China will never say yes to UDI....
(guest, 16 August 2011 20:38)

how delightful... so you confirm that kosovo does not equal serbia. That china... like those still on the fence act of concern how recognizing independence could effect them.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

So go back and eat your previous comments and of your fellas about Pacolli's money buying recognition - since we all know that Gazprom and Serbia have waaaaaaay bigger financial capacities than Pacolli. It is utterly ridiculous.
(ben, 17 August 2011 13:08)

It was Pacolli himself who said, he did buy recognitions. Like it this case, too. Please read the whole article. I am not sure about Serbian budget - but as for Gazprom budget: there is no comparison with any private person in the area, Pacolli included. And since it looks like nothing happened on their side we can have two picks:


a) IT MERELY LOOKS like nothing happened
b) they are not interested

The b) is out of question. Not much remains - now our guess could be what is behind the scene. If you know the history and the mentality of Gazprom bosses, you can have pretty interesting guesses.

think again

pre 12 godina

Yes, thank you to the Military Junta in Niger which has one of the lowest standards of living in the world and where 8% (nearly 900,000) of the country's 15.3 million population are enslaved.
[link]

and a big thank you to Guinea, a country where the army frequently interfers with the election process, murders dozens of unarmed protestors in the streets of Conakry, the two heads of the Electoral Commission were jailed for fraud amidst a disputed recent presidential election. Recently a US diplomat recently warned of a Rwandan like situation developing with the country splitting along ethnic lines.

Human rights and democracy...how are ya
(Niall O'Doherty, 17 August 2011 12:58)
And just 3days ago when Serbia was claiming they were supporters of Serbia because they had not recognized Kosovo they were defenders of international law. Now they are corrupt juntas. Is this a judgment on the morals of these 2 countries or on Serbia.

ben

pre 12 godina

2) The recognitions of Isle Sodor, Niger and Kingdom Mbuku Mbeka are not really much a concern for Russians otherwise Gazprom would fork out money worth a banquette they hold weekly and get the recognitions back.

(Ataman, 17 August 2011 12:28)

finally something smart said by you in long time.

So go back and eat your previous comments and of your fellas about Pacolli's money buying recognition - since we all know that Gazprom and Serbia have waaaaaaay bigger financial capacities than Pacolli. It is utterly ridiculous.

Analyst

pre 12 godina

"Except Spain that is your loyal ally,all the countries that support Serbia such as Iran,Venezuela,Cuba,Russia,Burma,Vietnam,North Korea are either dictatorial countries or semi dictatures. "
(Mirel from Albania, 16 August 2011 19:33)

Sure, and the countries recently 'recognized' Kosovo are democracies, or what? In fact, they are either african (islamist) countries with an extremly low ranking on HDI, poor and corrupt and/or small tropical islands with less inhabitans than a city in a normal country. It must have been easy for Pacolli to 'lobby' these recognitions with some $10,000s for the pockets of a responsible minister.

You think countries like Greece and Slovakia, Israel are semi dictature? Interesting opinion.

Valon

pre 12 godina

The United Nations has been here since 1943. We had countries before the UN. We don't need the UN to be a country. If it walks, talks and acts like a duck, it's a duck. Kosovo has almost all of the trade marks of a country and is in the transition stage of becoming fully sovereign. Eventually even Serbia will recognize Kosovo, either this generation, or a smarter future generation. but it WILL happen.

miri

pre 12 godina

I wonder how much ablo drug money it took to get these nations to recognize?
(michael, 16 August 2011 21:44)

Incidentally, Russia is the biggest consumer of drugs in the world, so looks like this is Russian money after all.

Isn't it ironic?

adamnyc

pre 12 godina

Are you for real? I mean seriously? Albanians flooding a SERBIAN website to gloat about 2 countries they bought off and you're wondering why are Serbs negative, or better yet, why are we mocking you Albanians? Other than it's been easy to do, you trolls haven't figured out that maybe this issue has consumed you. People like myself are living life large and you guys are obsessed with recognitions because that will somehow make us like you? Or you want our approval? Or maybe get things done for the relatives back home? Or do you think chest-thumping is somehow going to make the Serbs bow down to the mighty Albanians? You folks are absolutely comical, no two ways about it.
(Tomislav USA, 17 August 2011 18:39)

lol stop crying. when b92 stops PROMOTING itself on international news feeds...stops translating serbian news for FOREIGN consumption...wich it can easily do. THEN you can cry about this being a "serbian" website.

As long as it is a News site ANYTHING you say on the matter just shows you dont like serb apologists propaganda exposed and belitttled in real time.

Poster

pre 12 godina

Pacolli has just stated that the African Republic of Benin has recognized Kosovo. That makes 80 recognitions by now. Pacolli also said that more recognitions will follow the next days.

pss

pre 12 godina

I am not sure which government you talking about, but if its Serbia you have it wrong as I don’t live there. Have you ever been to either of these two countries? I have to Niger and I can tell you that its an all mighty hole of misery.
Working for a financial organization that deals with these states I can tell you that they can be purchased for a cheap drink and what is the point getting recognition from these places when they are meaningless.
I know what is happening in 2011 and I can tell you and all you Albaniamn friends you have no idea the financial earthquake on its way that will flatten your western friends. Here is a tip for you go and buy gold as much as you can.
Ta ta US and EU.
(sj, 17 August 2011 12:50
The energy the ultranationalists are expending to try and make these recognitions seem insignificant seems to indicate otherwise.
I also doubt buying Gold at its inflated price would be sound advice at this time.

Janez-Beograd

pre 12 godina

And just 3days ago when Serbia was claiming they were supporters of Serbia because they had not recognized Kosovo they were defenders of international law. Now they are corrupt juntas. Is this a judgment on the morals of these 2 countries or on Serbia.
(think again, 17 August 2011 16:36)

No Serbia did not say that there were its supporters or that they were defenders of international law. Serbia has its trustworthy allies to fight the battles she needs. Serbia has Russia, China, India, South Africa, Brazil, Argentina, Spain, Mexico, Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua, Nigeria, Algeria, Egypt, Iran etc who will block the Pristina freakshow.

Face it, you need Belgrade's nod no other way about it. Why is there so much pressure being exerted on Serbia right now with regard to EU accession talks?

Janez-Beograd

pre 12 godina

Pacolli has just stated that the African Republic of Benin has recognized Kosovo. That makes 80 recognitions by now. Pacolli also said that more recognitions will follow the next days.
(Poster, 18 August 2011 10:57)

I remember reading an article in one of the UK papers about corruption in countries like Ireland and Greece where the common form of bribe was a brown enveleope stuffed with cash. Here its usually a suitcase or two stuffed with dollars/euros.

Either way, it still wont change the situation on the ground with 60% unemployment and a non existant economy. My Albanian neighbour always needs to send money via WU from his monthly paycheck to help his extended family in Prizren get by. What he tells me is sad, young people desperate to leave. Maybe Mr Pacolli would be better spending the money on improving the lives of ordinary people rather than throw it at African kleptocrats.

Anyway he just left me with a fine bottle of red from Rahovec. God Bless him :)

icj1

pre 12 godina

Face it, you need Belgrade's nod no other way about it.
(Janez-Beograd, 18 August 2011 15:38)

Of course Belgrade's nod is needed for Serbia's recognition. The same way the Benin's nod is needed for Benin's recognition, and so on.